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    Does Trudeau mean assault handguns (big magazine semi auto) or all handguns (6-shooter pistols)? Or just all of them? Did something happen with a handgun, too? Just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allegro View Post
    Does Trudeau mean assault handguns (big magazine semi auto) or all handguns (6-shooter pistols)? Or just all of them? Did something happen with a handgun, too? Just curious.
    These are the firearms affected under the new prohibition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by botley View Post
    These are the firearms affected under the new prohibition.
    Interesting, thanks. So no Glock, etc. Not yet, anyway. And there’s an Amnesty Order until 2022.
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    Yes, the handgun ban @eskimo mentioned is still in the planning stages and would look something like what Chicago has tried in the past before being struck down by your Supreme Court. Handguns are already considered 'restricted' firearms in Canada, and have been for fifty years, which means it's illegal to carry them out of your home or a licensed gun range without specific authorization. Precedent for this restriction against smaller guns goes back a long way in our nation's history. I think the only place in the USA with that kind of law is San Francisco? Maybe?
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    I'm sure my brother, who is a gun nut, is having a complete meltdown about this. I'd love/hate to be a fly on the wall listening to him scream about Trudeau right now.

    Literally every political point he gets passionate about involves gun legislation. It's really the only thing he cares about. So, on one hand I'd love to hear him whine about how Canada is turning into some fascist police state that is about to be suppressed and nobody will be free, and on the other hand I'm tired of that shit and he can cry at someone else. Nobody needs a military style weapon in their house.

    I'm not sure how I feel about the handgun ban, but whatever, I hate guns.

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    Is this the right thread for discussing the lynching of Ahmaud Arbery?

    I still can't find the words for this story. It's days like this I'm glad I stepped away from the offer to be a reporter, because there's no way in hell I could ever write an unbiased, matter-of-fact story about this young man and the shit stains who lynched him. I'm still staunchly anti-capital punishment, but if anyone deserves it, it's these fucking inhuman cowards.

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    there's a certain person who hasn't posted in quite awhile who I'd imagine is quite upset at this news.

    I hope he's doing OK, the world is so crazy you worry about everyone anymore.

    Also woke up to this bullshit:


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    Quote Originally Posted by botley View Post
    Yes, the handgun ban @eskimo mentioned is still in the planning stages and would look something like what Chicago has tried in the past before being struck down by your Supreme Court. Handguns are already considered 'restricted' firearms in Canada, and have been for fifty years, which means it's illegal to carry them out of your home or a licensed gun range without specific authorization. Precedent for this restriction against smaller guns goes back a long way in our nation's history. I think the only place in the USA with that kind of law is San Francisco? Maybe?
    All handgun bans were declared unconstitutional per the McDonald v City of Chicago SCOTUS decision (2010); this also includes the ability to obtain a concealed carry license. Chicago’s handgun ban prevented the sale and possession of unregistered handguns within the city limits, and then also made it impossible to register said handguns. This did nothing to the crime stats, and people owned illegal handguns that they purchased in cities outside of Chicago. So someone sued the City of Chicago and that worked its way up the appellate system, and that now affects the entire country via precedent. The Heller SCOTUS decision also set precedent as to handguns being an individual’s right for home defense.

    Each state, however, still has laws as to TRANSPORT of handguns, e.g. whether or not concealed carry applies to inside vehicles, and reciprocity across state lines. Most states do NOT have reciprocity with CCL. So if you have a CCL (concealed carry license) and a FOID (firearm owners ID) in Illinois and go on a road trip to Florida, you will be illegally carrying that handgun through several states.

    In Illinois, if you DO NOT have a CCL and you transport your handgun to a range, the handgun must be broken down if a semiautomatic or unloaded if a revolver and kept in a closed container totally beyond the reach of the driver (preferably the trunk of the car).

    So, in that sense, handguns are “restricted” in most states here, too. States with concealed carry require a license which requires several hours of safety classes and a test.

    @allegate , I believe @DigitalChaos is okay, they had a second kid and they got a house he was working on and they were really swamped busy with life stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    Is this the right thread for discussing the lynching of Ahmaud Arbery?

    I still can't find the words for this story. It's days like this I'm glad I stepped away from the offer to be a reporter, because there's no way in hell I could ever write an unbiased, matter-of-fact story about this young man and the shit stains who lynched him. I'm still staunchly anti-capital punishment, but if anyone deserves it, it's these fucking inhuman cowards.
    I am so fucking pissed off at this story. I believe it is more appropriate in that police / Ferguson thread? Because it ends up that one of the killers was retired from the police force and knows the prosecutors? And they’re using citizen’s arrest and old Jim Crow loitering laws as a defense.

    This sums up what’s going on:

    https://theweek.com/articles/912977/...loitering-laws

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/06/o...y-killing.html

    According to The New York Times, “Gregory McMichael is a former Glynn County police officer and a former investigator with the local district attorney’s office who retired last May.” The local prosecutor recused herself from the case because Gregory McMichael had worked in her office. The next prosecutor, a district attorney, also recused himself because his son worked for the district attorney for whom Gregory McMichael had worked.

    THIS RACIST VIGILANTE SHIT IS THE BIGGEST REASON WHY WE MUST GET RID OF TRUMP! Because he is empowering this evil.
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