Jane's Addiction

[GulDukat]

As far as later-day Jane's goes, I thought that some of their best material was written with Duff McKagan. Too bad that didn't pan out.

Love this song:

[Piko]

Deconstruction is basically the missing Jane's album. It's an album that I couldn't get enough of when I first heard it. It was the goodbye. Dave went on to rhcp to do likely their most underrated album, ever. Eric did Polar Bear (which I recommend).

I still cling onto the hope that we'll get another Porno album. Perry says "someday". Hopefully it happens. They supposedly have a third album written already. Good God's Urge is a pretty special album to me.

Mmmm Pork!

[henryeatscereal]

Just heard the Deconstruction album and... wow! i had no idea it was that good, truly underrated and forgoten masterpiece!
It's far more interesting than "Strays"and The Great Escape Artist (And i do like both albums) and much better than Dave Navarro's solo album, how could i miss this?

[thevoid99]

I forgot about Deconstruction as I do like "L.A. Song" as I love what they were doing musically. If they had a better vocalist, I'm sure they would've made another album. I would've much preferred Deconstruction over whatever bullshit Perry is doing now.

[mfte]

I would've much preferred Deconstruction over whatever bullshit Perry is doing now.

whatever do you mean?




Good God's Urge is a criminally underrated album. That's the album that makes me wish was the "next" Jane's album after Ritual or whatever. Dave Navarro even shows up for some guitar.

[GulDukat]

The Panic Channel was no masterpiece either.

Don't forget "You Oughta Know," Alanis Morrisete's ode to Uncle Joey.

[GulDukat]

Most critics and fans regard NS as their best album, and it's great and all, but damn, RDLH is the better album, imho. "Three Days" is just mind-blowing. I mean, that's like Zeppelin good.

[thevoid99]

For me, anything from the self-titled live debut to Ritual de lo Habitual is essential. I do like some Porno for Pyros but I've been disappointed with Perry's solo work and the stuff Jane's Addiction did since Strays as it feels overproduced and slick as it lacks that rawness and sound that Eric Avery brought to the band.

[Space Suicide]

Three Days rules but Nothing's Shocking has the better song choices by a long shot.

[henryeatscereal]

Eric's singing is pretty meh on the Deconstruction joint, but the musicality is on par with Ritual, if you ask me..

I had no problem with his vocals, but i agree that the voice could be much better...

For me it's:
Nothing's Shocking > Ritual... > Jane's Addiction (Live album) > Strays > Great Escape Artist

"Three Days" is clearly JA greatest song, but "Nothing's Shocking" is the best album as a whole...

[mfte]

Song for song NS is better Ritual can't be beat when it comes to the arch of the album. The way it starts with your standard type rock songs and then turns less aggressive, and more experimental and epic. The sonic quality of the album reigns supreme as well.

[thevoid99]

I remember that Skype interview with Eric. That revealed a lot into what was wrong with the reunion. Plus, remember 20 years ago when Perry chose not to do Lollapalooza because Metallica were the headliners and then recently would have big stars to do the festival all of a sudden? It seemed like he betrayed all of the things of why he created Lollapalooza in the first place which was meant to be a festival that was alternative to the mainstream.

[GulDukat]

Everything Jane's/Perry has done post-1997 has pretty much been a joke to me.

You know what's an even funnier joke than their output from the past 20 years? Their little online fan forum, comprised of like a dozen of their most hardcore fans.

I used to post on the old Xiola.org forums way back when, before Jane's became the Perry and Etty Farrell show. Then that guy Sonny who ran it (and was pretty awesome) did that Skype interview with Eric about why he left Jane's, then decided to shut Xiola down for good.

So the remaining 10-15 holdouts started up this sub-Jane's forum called Aintnoright and I eventually found my way over to that place. And I remember the guy Hokahey or whatever he called himself who ran the site fucking HATED Nine Inch Nails, for some reason. Like, unreasonably hated them, to a comical degree. This guy would bash NIN every chance he got, often for no reason at all.

Right around the time Eric joined NIN's touring lineup for the duration of a coffee break, this guy Hoka lost his mind about it and started trashing NIN on the forum again. So I decided to troll the shit out of him and pretty much show how full of shit he was. It had its own thread on the forum and everything, and I would just troll this guy every time he wanted to complain about NIN, which was often. This guy was like 50 years old, too.

It eventually seeped out into pretty much every thread on the forums: this dude would start complaining about NIN and I'd debunk whatever he was complaining about. He honestly seemed to believe that Jane's were a more relevant band than NIN, which was hilarious. He even got this one guy from Brazil who posted there to threaten he was going to rape my grandmother or something, which was even more hilarious.

Finally one day I just embarrassed this guy so bad that he banned me from the forum indefinitely. Sent me this PM about how his house wasn't big enough for the two of us, or something? I still laugh about that shit to this day when I think about it. I don't think I've ever embarrassed someone on the internet quite as bad as that guy, and on his own Jane's forum no less.

Anyway, I digress: NIN > Jane's Addiction

Some old-school Van Halen fans are even worse. 50 something year-old men calling each other "fucktards" over which era of Van Halen was better.

This is my personal JA and company ranking:

1. RDLH- Their most creative, best written album, IMHO.
2. NS
3. Deconstruction
4. The Great Escape Artist
5. Jane's Addiction (live)
6. One Hot Minute
7. GGU
8. Satellite Party
9. PFP
10. Strays
11. TNO
12. Panic Channel

Never heard Perry's solo album, and I am not that familiar with Psi Com, so I'll leave those out.

[Piko]

Ritual
Nothings Shocking
Deconstruction
Good God's Urge
One Hot Minute
Porno for Pyros
Chewing Gum/Why something...
Help Wanted
Trust No One
Kettle Whistle
Self Titled
The Great Escape Artist
Satellite Party
Strays
Song Yet To Be Sun
Lifeline
Psi Com

Mmmm Pork!

[thevoid99]

For me from what I've heard so far...

Nothing Shocking
Ritual de lo Habitual
Jane's Addiction (Live)
One Hot Minute
Good God's Urge
Porno for Pyros
Song Yet to be Sung
Strays
The Great Escaped Artist

[GulDukat]

lol

Or that time Jane's broke up (again) in 2004 because the band couldn't get Perry to agree on a recording timeline. Or any business timeline. It's why they were going through their management, to determine what was going on with band business. Perry was busy with Lolla for the summer and said there would be no Jane's business for the rest of that year.

So Dave did Rockstar that summer and started recording with Perkins/Chaney/Isaacs as TPC.

Then Lolla went belly up and Perry wanted to know why his band didn't jump at the first opportunity to make music for him.

Perry later turned around and said they couldn't record or tour because of Rockstar, which was a lie. Dave recorded that two days a week in LA and only agreed to do it AFTER Perry rejected any Jane's plans.

So Perry got fed up with "his" band not doing exactly as he said and released that ridiculous statement to Rolling Stone about the band "being taken over by new masters" and "Jane only strips for me"

Soon after, TPC announced their existence once Perry threw his tantrum and put Jane's to bed officially..

TPC was weak, and Rockstar SuperNova sucked. too bad Dave was involved with both projects.

[GulDukat]

Any thoughts on Perry's new album, Kind Heaven​?

[Piko]

Not sure tbh. It's alright I guess. All over the place.

[ManBurning]

Jane's Addiction and Porno for Pyro's "Social distancing" reunion live stream shows for Lolla 2020 this weekend:

[tricil]

Jane's Addiction and Porno for Pyro's "Social distancing" reunion live stream shows for Lolla 2020 this weekend:

Well, 3/4 of a Jane’s reunion.

[ManBurning]

Huh... they took the Porno for Pyro's video down for some odd reason... That was a great video.
Was an interview with Parry and his wife in their back yard and they Perry went to join the other members for "Pets" and "Kimberly Austin" acoustic in the garden.
Was a fantastic video.... wonder why they took it down.

[GulDukat]

A seven disc Perry Farrell anthology with some never released songs will be coming out next month.

[GulDukat]

A seven disc Perry Farrell anthology with some never released songs will be coming out next month.

I just got this and it looks too nice to take the plastic off.

Here is a review.

[GulDukat]

Is Eric back?

[mfte]

Is Eric back?

Holy shit! I thought that bridge was completely burned after he put out all those videos on youtube airing out ALL the dirty laundry after that reunion tour, and ill fated record that TR was producing.

[imail724]

This morning I saw tickets for UBS Arena were on groupon. Now I see Dave Navarro will be sitting this tour out due to long covid. Avery is back, but now they still won't have the classic lineup. Tour not off to a great start.

[botley]

Welp if there has to be a Jane's tour without Navarro, then I guess Troy van Leeuwen is the best possible second choice.

[GulDukat]

He has "long Covid" but will be working on new Jane's music in the studio.

Really sucks for him, being sick that long and missing the tour. But he's smart to sit it out.

[Failure]

This will be the 4th different band that I see Troy play in. APC on Fragility in 99 (Philly), Failure at Brooklyn Bowl in 2016, countless QOTSA shows, and now JA at Wells Fargo in Philly with the Pumpkins. Navarro is one of my all-time favorites, but I did see the original Jane’s lineup once before. So I am not upset…

[GulDukat]

I went to the Jane's/Smashing Pumpkins show last night and it was awesome.

Sorry Navarro wasn't there, but Troy Van Leeuwen was a more than adequate replacement. Josh Klinghoffer joined the band for "Three Days," which was awesome. Perry seemed to be in really good spirits and I was happy to hear "Three Days."