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    Coil

    Quote Originally Posted by Prettybrokenspiral View Post
    I didn't see the point in picking it (them) up because I still own the two standalone CDs they released for the russian market like 20 years back. I remember it being a huge deal at the time because this was long before the Backwards stuff had seen any kind of official release, so AYOR and A Cold Cell were highly sought after amongst the community..

    It's great that it's widely-available for a new generation again, but it reeks of a cash grab. They could have at least made it available on vinyl for the first time ever..
    Search harder. It already was reissued on vinyl two years ago:

    https://feelee.bandcamp.com/merch/co...a-hair-of-gold

    The Cold Spring reissue is a cash grab of this exact compilation because theyíre salty about Dais getting that MTPITD cash. The compilations were already on Spotify already (and still are)
    Last edited by tricil; 10-25-2020 at 09:59 PM. Reason: Wrong ďtheyíreĒ

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricil View Post
    Search harder. It already was reissued on vinyl two years ago:

    https://feelee.bandcamp.com/merch/co...a-hair-of-gold

    The Cold Spring reissue is a cash grab of this exact compilation because they’re salty about Dais getting that MTPITD cash. The compilations were already on Spotify already (and still are)
    I remember that (and then promptly forgot about it) getting roundly outed as a bootleg years ago on the Coil social media pages, so no thanks. $100 for 4 LPs? You go ahead and waste your money on it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prettybrokenspiral View Post
    I remember that (and then promptly forgot about it) getting roundly outed as a bootleg years ago on the Coil social media pages, so no thanks. $100 for 4 LPs? You go ahead and waste your money on it..
    I donít care. I have the CDís from 2001.

    You were the one who wanted it pressed ďfor the first time ever.Ē

    Itís not even a bootleg either, Feelee was the original label who put this out, unlike cold spring.

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    Oh, very well. I amended my original post, hopefully to your satisfaction..

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    Arrived!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmtd View Post
    Arrived!
    Hey, why are your lights turned on??? :P

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    Got mine as well. I like that they emphasized the moon with spot varnish(?), but why the hell is it two LPs in a single pocket? A week longer in transit and it probably would have arrived with ringwear.

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    Just a note that the download code provided copies are not *all* 24 bit, despite their filenames

    Code:
    Input #0, mp3, from 'A1 Are You Shivering_ V2 (24bit) 1.mp3':
      Metadata:
        title           : A1 Are You Shivering_ V2 (24bit) 1
        iTunPGAP        : 0
        encoded_by      : iTunes 12.9.5.5
        iTunNORM        :  00000689 0000053B 00003CE8 00003AFB 0005D700 0005D700 00007B9C 00007B9C 00058FC6 00054E29
        iTunSMPB        :  00000000 00000210 00000B30 0000000001839940 00000000 00D2E3C2 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
      Duration: 00:09:36.08, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 192 kb/s
        Stream #0:0: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, stereo, fltp, 192 kb/s
    Actually that doesn't say it isnt 24 bit. But that's a low bitrate for 24 bit. The WAVs look ok.
    Last edited by jmtd; 11-28-2020 at 08:14 AM. Reason: bah

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmtd View Post
    Just a note that the download code provided copies are not *all* 24 bit, despite their filenames

    Code:
    Input #0, mp3, from 'A1 Are You Shivering_ V2 (24bit) 1.mp3':
      Metadata:
        title           : A1 Are You Shivering_ V2 (24bit) 1
        iTunPGAP        : 0
        encoded_by      : iTunes 12.9.5.5
        iTunNORM        :  00000689 0000053B 00003CE8 00003AFB 0005D700 0005D700 00007B9C 00007B9C 00058FC6 00054E29
        iTunSMPB        :  00000000 00000210 00000B30 0000000001839940 00000000 00D2E3C2 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
      Duration: 00:09:36.08, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 192 kb/s
        Stream #0:0: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, stereo, fltp, 192 kb/s
    Actually that doesn't say it isnt 24 bit. But that's a low bitrate for 24 bit. The WAVs look ok.
    thanks for the heads up! i'll download the WAVs and convert them myself!

    looking forward to actually opening mine and listening to it. wonder how my new baby will react to COIL being their first vinyl experience haha

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    MP3s aren't 24bit. That's just in the filenames because they're converted from the WAVs. No need to test anything.

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    Itís perfectly possible to get 24 bit MP3s so itís confusing to name them as such when they arenít. Except they actually are. Just low bit rate ones. Oh, and itís fairly unusual I think to get 44.1kHz sample rate paired with 24 bit. Both the WAVs and the MP3s are that too. The bleep FLACs are 16/44.1.

    In this drew interview https://www.thewire.co.uk/in-writing...nd-materiality

    They mention that both volumes of MTPITD have been redone

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    Sorry to be a stickler here, but that just isn't true. The MP3 format does not have bit depth because of the way it stores data; decoders either have a fixed depth or a user-chosen one that is used during re-quantization (more here). So there is no such thing as a 24bit MP3, or 16bit, or any other value, just whatever the decoder uses for re-quantization on playback. 24/44.1 is also a super common delivery format on sites like HDtracks, so I'm not sure why that would be considered unusual.

    I think I had read somewhere previously that MTPITD2 was slated from the beginning like 1, but would be released later. It was probably on the Coil FB group.

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    Just listened to the new vinyl - nice pressing, sounds great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by seasonsinthesky View Post
    Sorry to be a stickler here, but that just isn't true. The MP3 format does not have bit depth because of the way it stores data; decoders either have a fixed depth or a user-chosen one that is used during re-quantization (more here). So there is no such thing as a 24bit MP3, or 16bit, or any other value, just whatever the decoder uses for re-quantization on playback. 24/44.1 is also a super common delivery format on sites like HDtracks, so I'm not sure why that would be considered unusual.
    No need to apologise. I appreciate being educated. I'm really surprised, but TIL! As or 24/44.1: I can only speak from what I've seen or experienced. I don't buy much HD music so I haven't seen it on sites like HDTracks. It must be much more common than my limited sample suggests, which (looking at it now) is heavily weighted by TR&AR/NIN releases: lots of 24/48, some 24/96, but no 24/44.1.

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    Iíd Never listened to ďstrange birdsĒ properly before, and Iím struck by just how similar the bird box soundtrack is in style. very interesting piece

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    Flippiní Ďeck
    https://infinitefog.bandcamp.com/alb...ersary-edition

    LSD triple lp March 2021

    Deluxe offering is a literal box

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmtd View Post
    Flippin’ ‘eck
    https://infinitefog.bandcamp.com/alb...ersary-edition

    LSD triple lp March 2021

    Deluxe offering is a literal box
    OMFG. This makes the box of Colour Sound Oblivion look like a toy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricil View Post
    One opportunity opened another with Danny Hyde.

    Uncoiled begat Recoiled begat Backwards begat Swanyard begat that new single

    the Gay Manís Guide had NASA Arab and Omlagous Garfungiloops as bonus tracks, which begat Stolen and Contaminated Songs

    I guaranfuckintee that Stolen and Contaminated open the door to a questionable reissue of Loveís Secret Domain soon enough.
    Hi. I called this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmtd View Post
    Flippin’ ‘eck
    https://infinitefog.bandcamp.com/alb...ersary-edition

    LSD triple lp March 2021

    Deluxe offering is a literal box
    Quote Originally Posted by wizfan View Post
    OMFG. This makes the box of Colour Sound Oblivion look like a toy.
    guess i missed out on the super deluxe. how limited was it? how much was it? pretty bummed, even though i know i shouldn't spend the money right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by tricil View Post
    Hi. I called this.
    what do you think, in terms of its validity, and what the sound quality is going to be? i default to your opinion on all things COIL these days, so i trust you to tell me. is it worth getting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    guess i missed out on the super deluxe. how limited was it? how much was it? pretty bummed, even though i know i shouldn't spend the money right now.



    what do you think, in terms of its validity, and what the sound quality is going to be? i default to your opinion on all things COIL these days, so i trust you to tell me. is it worth getting?
    Whoa thatís a high honor.

    Honestly, Iíd wait on this one. Maybe something more legit will come around. In the meantime, Iím still digging MTPITD!

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    I picked up the Threshold House release of LSD in 2001 or so, and was glad to have it on disc finally. Everything I've heard about Infinite Fog vinyl releases is discouraging, same with their mastering choices - and as far as unreleased demos goes, I did manage to grab the Threshold House Archives pack that had LSD stuff in it, and those CDs are a gluttony of demos, almost to a fault.

    Anyhow - don't hold me to this, but I suspect that another release by a company that's licensed the material before may be worth the wait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tricil View Post
    Whoa that’s a high honor.

    Honestly, I’d wait on this one. Maybe something more legit will come around. In the meantime, I’m still digging MTPITD!
    Quote Originally Posted by Leviathant View Post
    I picked up the Threshold House release of LSD in 2001 or so, and was glad to have it on disc finally. Everything I've heard about Infinite Fog vinyl releases is discouraging, same with their mastering choices - and as far as unreleased demos goes, I did manage to grab the Threshold House Archives pack that had LSD stuff in it, and those CDs are a gluttony of demos, almost to a fault.

    Anyhow - don't hold me to this, but I suspect that another release by a company that's licensed the material before may be worth the wait.
    thanks, y'all.

    out of curiosity, i went to the infinite fog website to see if the shipping charge would be less than that on bandcamp...and when i hit "checkout" it said order complete. i hadn't even put in payment data. and then i got an e-mail about 10 minutes later (in all lowercase...as if i have any right to criticize that haha) telling me they'd get back to me with an invoice. i was like "i just wanted to see how much shipping would be, i didn't expect it to just put my order through" so i really hope i'm not now committed to buying a copy of this :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    thanks, y'all.

    out of curiosity, i went to the infinite fog website to see if the shipping charge would be less than that on bandcamp...and when i hit "checkout" it said order complete. i hadn't even put in payment data. and then i got an e-mail about 10 minutes later (in all lowercase...as if i have any right to criticize that haha) telling me they'd get back to me with an invoice. i was like "i just wanted to see how much shipping would be, i didn't expect it to just put my order through" so i really hope i'm not now committed to buying a copy of this :/
    Just donít pay lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by eversonpoe View Post
    guess i missed out on the super deluxe. how limited was it? how much was it? pretty bummed, even though i know i shouldn't spend the money right now.
    From memory it was 135 euro. The description is still there the item has just moved to the bottom

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmtd View Post
    From memory it was 135 euro. The description is still there the item has just moved to the bottom
    yeah once it's sold out it doesn't tell you the price any more; a rare gripe i have with bandcamp.



    finally had a chance to listen to this the other day. a little sad the colorway didn't end up the way it was supposed to look (with a moon in the middle, not 2/3 of a moon at each end) and the white parts are a little noisy, but otherwise it was fantastic. the remastering was done with care, and i'm so glad to finally own it on vinyl. now bring on part 2!

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    Thanks for sharing the pic, it's really pretty. I love your globe lamp too. I thought it was a moon on first glance but is it the earth?

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    Ok i can finally talk about what i've been working on for the last year: In my capacity with WaxTrax! i've been project managing the 30th Anniversary release of Love's Secret Domain with Stephen Thrower. Josh Bonati did the remastering from multiple original sources, releasing on June 20, 2021 (Summer Solstice.)

    Happy Winter Solstice


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    Cool! Thatís listed on the infinite fog Bandcamp right? We arenít looking at two competing 30th anniversary reissues are we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmtd View Post
    Cool! That’s listed on the infinite fog Bandcamp right? We aren’t looking at two competing 30th anniversary reissues are we?
    We are looking at two competing 30th anniversary reissues. One is going to have extra tracks by a label that's historically done a pretty poor job on remastering old audio, the other is being done in conjunction with a member of the band, is (as I read on Facebook) remastered from analog masters, with a label that retained a lot of primary material from the first time they licensed the album back in the 90s - and fookin' @vav has been involved. Everything to me indicates that the Wax Trax release will be the one to get - if you had to choose one or the other.

    You don't have to choose!

    I will say though, the album artwork on the Infinite Fog Bandcamp page for LSD is very high quality. Seems like they may actually have license to use the original artwork - not sure if it's new photography, or just a really good scan of the original photography.

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    imagine what one could do if one had, say, the original painting.

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