This probably sounds shitty, but the impressive size of Coil's back catalogue, on-and-off-again availability, plus instantly kooky aftermarket prices, and other musical pursuits always kind of dissuaded me from getting in there too throughly.
Which sucks because FDTS is and has been funky shit in my life dating back to 1996 or thereabouts.
But I have to confess, everything being up on Archive.org has encouraged me to take the plunge. Do we know the details behind this? Not something I feel comfortable with unless we can now consider the discography, as the bard said, ' guilt-free' downloads.
Totally understandable, @Shadaloo – the discography is, essentially, impenetrable at this point. Discovering Coil is difficult. I think Peter and Jhonn potentially smile at this.
They've never really made something like their FDTS work again. It has to do with the way Peter (primarily) would create material; how a given Coil track would go was entirely dependent on the source material he was using. He never really used material like the TDS multitracks. I would recommend The New Backwards and/or Backwards (2015) for something similar to Closer (Precursor), though.
I have no idea why the discography is up for free on archive.org but they are a fastidious group of folks and would have killed it by now if it were illegal. Or so I think, anyway.
Noted. I've started with some earlier stuff:
-Horse Rotorvator which is....really impressive and strange in a great almost-creepy way. That's a hell of a Cohen cover.
-Dabbled in Stolen and Contaminated Songs a little....I'm pretty sure "omlagus garfungiloops" is the perfect example of how to translate a magic mushroom experience to audio.
i somehow hadn't realized that the expanded versions of those CDs that threshold archives put out (still pissed i missed out on physical copies and then they disappeared...ugh) were up on archive.org until you guys mentioned it, so now i can finally listen to them!
also, that copy of astral disaster i ordered shipped this weekend, so it looks like i'll actually be getting it! who knows what'll happen with the new pressing of transparent...probably should have ordered directly from cold spring instead of amazon...
@Shadaloo horse rotorvator is definitely my favorite album from their first ten or so years of existence
it came! sounded fantastic, too. really wish more stuff would get properly reissued like this so i can expand my COIL vinyl collection. le sigh.
a little confused because there seems to be a new version of Astral Disaster up for pre-order. it has the cover art for the Threshold House version, but still has the description of the Prescription Edition...
Amazon
Import CDs (way cheaper)
i pre-ordered from ImportCDs just in case (says it's on yellow vinyl). really hoping it's not the prescription edition again : /
Amazon says it's released by Lion Productions, and if you go to their website and scroll down a bit, there's a blurb on this. However, the blurb only talks about the Prescription reissue and doesn't mention a colour.
The ImportCDs UPC is also different from the UPC in the Lion blurb. So... maybe it is indeed a second press on yellow. Who knows if the cover will be that one or the Prescription one, though.
From the mission statement:
Our own Lion Productions label concentrates on creating respectful re-releases of music first recorded during the "psychedelic era" (1965-1973); as a distributor, we offer similar reissues made by other labels from locations all across the globe.
So, I'm assuming this is a re-release/re-issue using the Prescription release as a "base".
Release will be on yellow wax and limited to 250 copies. Light In The Attic should be your best bet as far as price and getting what you're supposed to (I hate Amazon when it comes to alternate pressings, etc.):
• Yellow Vinyl = $21 + shipping (March 3, 2017 estimated ship date)
• CD = $12 + shipping (April 28, 2017 estimated ship date)
So you bought this, @eversonpoe ? I just saw a photo of it in the FB Coil group and it is indeed the same cover, just pressed on yellow wax.
so, i finally own a copy of Time Machines on vinyl. i paid $120 (free shipping from South Africa) which is about the most i was willing to pay for it, and about the cheapest i've seen it. it's in near mint condition all around, and the seller was like the nicest person i've ever dealt with on discogs, so i'm very, very happy. haven't had a chance to listen to it, yet, but i'm excited!
despite some normal crackles and pops, this sounds fantastic. i am so glad i finally own it.
also - https://thevinylfactory.com/news/opt...lease-charity/
‘A Cold Cell In Bangkok’ is out this September on single-sided 12-inch vinyl with a silk-screened image on the other side designed by Firecracker Recordings boss Lindsay Todd.
All proceeds from sales will be donated to the charity Safe Child Thailand, which “supports children in Thailand irrespective of their nationality, ethnicity or religion.”
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Time Machines reissue fully authorized by Drew is up for preorder on Dais. I'm trying to find out of it's remastered and new plates were cut or if it's cut from the originals. Clear wax is already sold out.
https://www.daisrecords.com/collecti...-machines-2xlp
Oh also since i'm signed up now, i'm one of the Coil internet archivists/helpers & i did q/a help for the threshold archives, and the guy that owns that original Side Effects Of Life cassette that i put up on archive.org after transferring it at the studio, ama :P
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Sonofa. I had that in my cart this morning but had to go to a meeting. I shouldn't have hesitated, but I also shouldn't be spending any money at all right now. Urrrgghhh.
Pleasure to have you onboard, and thank you for your work in this arena!Oh also since i'm signed up now, i'm one of the Coil internet archivists/helpers & i did q/a help for the threshold archives, and the guy that owns that original Side Effects Of Life cassette that i put up on archive.org after transferring it at the studio, ama :P
https://boomkat.com/products/another...orld-baby-food
https://boomkat.com/products/a-cold-...b-299867e9f54c
pre-orders for both of these available. i didn't even know a new single version of another brown world was coming out.
also available on Forced Exposure https://www.forcedexposure.com/Artists/COIL.html
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sorry for the multitude of posts!
i put the original pressing i have of Time Machines up on discogs for exactly what i paid, and it sold in less than 12 hours to someone who is REALLY excited about it. so i made up my loss and i'm happy! especially since the other cheapest copy on discogs is currently going for $750, which is NUTS.
So the Time Machines reissue is indeed remastered, and a brand new cut with "minimal changes."
The Baby Food/Another Brown World 12" on Sub Rosa i don't know the source of, but both tracks were originally released by the same label. It's probably just a cash grab, but it's semi-official i suppose.
The Journey To Avebury 12" is kinda the same thing...it's being released by the same guy that released Porto, so i believe him when he says Sleazy said it was cool way back when, but he's being kinda cagey when asked about the source audio and who's cutting the vinyl.
The Cold Cell In Bangkok 12" is also kinda the same thing as above.
Journey to Avebury was originally released as part of Song Of The Week on Brainwashed back in the 90's. It was re-released on the Brainwaves compilation in the mid-aughts in a higher resolution version with an extended intro. Now the dude that released Porto is pressing a 12" up.
The track itself is a long ambient piece with bird sounds, ms20 filter bubbles, and digital glitchwaves. It's quite relaxing. At least one of the versions is up on archive.org, or i can send you the track too if you'd like.
I caved and pre-ordered Time Machines in gray. I'm still a little miffed that I had clear in my cart, but went to a meeting and came back to find it sold out.
Someone mentioned that Drew's doing another Time Machines set in New York on the 22nd? I hate to sound like that guy, but why do these things happen when I'm completely strapped for cash?
could you point me in the direction of the 12" that's being released because i can't seem to find it, i just keep finding this - https://www.discogs.com/Myrninerest-...elease/3858531
I can't decide on colour! It would have been nice to have had colour previews.
As I somewhat anticipated, shipping to the UK will double the price, which is a shame. My most-local record store haven't had sight of it on the pre-order lists from their distributors either.
Danny didn't have too much to say about it, i have vague recollection of him saying this tape was probably made at home and therefore before he was involved in the studio, but i can't find the correspondence. The only other thing Danny said was something along the lines of "It figures you'd be the one to find this." I asked Thrower about it too, he doesn't remember making it.
As for WT!, Julia did a little digging and figured out that this tape was sent to Jim & Danny, and apparently it was liberated from Jim's desk by Frankie Nardiello, aka Groovie Man of Thrill Kill Kult. He then put a bunch of random Greater Than One tracks on Side B. It sat in a box for years until it ended up at Reckless Records on Broadway, where one morning they put it on the website and i randomly happened to look at cassettes that morning (which i hate and do not collect, so i have no idea why i clicked cassettes) see it, and immidiately call not 10 minutes after they put it up. Went down to pick it up and was floored once i realized what it was.
What's weird is that it hadn't been heard of before i unearthed it. Brainwashed didn't mention it, Discogs didn't mention it, zip, nothing. Just kinda one of those weird things. Whitney actually updated Brainwashed to reflect the cassette, but also a mutual friend of Peter's reached out with a list of the entire tape & date archive for me to look over and sure enough it matched one of the tapes. As for the tracks themselves, they're all on one or two DATs, and 2 of the full-fidelity DAT tracks (Fidgit and Carvers & Gilders) made it onto the T-ARCH10 release, aka the Threshold Archives Windowpane.
There are 3 other confirmed copies of this tape, fwiw. One was sent to the owner of Torso records, One was kept in the archive and was auctioned off by Thighpaulsandra about 2 months after i made my tape available, and the other i don't know its lineage of but it's definitely the real deal.