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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    If they are serious about these cover artworks, kindly shoot me in the butthole:

    https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threa...6-2020.147007/
    An even better one to add to the list - check out the one for Years Of Refusal: https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threa...5-2020.147313/

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    Damn, he’s only played 2 or 3 songs from the last record live so far haha. That came out of left field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    Damn, he’s only played 2 or 3 songs from the last record live so far haha. That came out of left field.
    Covid blew the Dog On A Chain live shows, but it sounds like it led to him spending his time recording instead, so that's cool. I still think Dog On A Chain is his best record since Ringleader, so I'm all about him riding that creative wave out a bit. Plus Iggy Pop!!

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    Yah, Iggy did awesome work on the last New Order album with Stray Dog!


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    el oh el. Lots of hypocrisy here.


    https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threa...9-2021.147956/

    "Surprising what a “turn for the worst" the writing for The Simpson’s tv show has taken in recent years.

    Sadly, The Simpson’s show started out creating great insight into the modern cultural experience, but has since degenerated to trying to capitalize on cheap controversy and expounding on vicious rumors.

    Poking fun at subjects is one thing. Other shows like SNL still do a great job at finding ways to inspire great satire.

    But when a show stoops so low to use harshly hateful tactics like showing the Morrissey character with his belly hanging out of his shirt (when he has never looked like that at any point in his career) makes you wonder who the real hurtful, racist group is here.

    Even worse - calling the Morrissey character out for being a racist, without pointing out any specific instances, offers nothing. It only serves to insult the artist.

    They should take that mirror and hold it up to themselves.

    Simpson’s actor Hank Azaria's recent apology to the whole country of India for his role in upholding "structural racism” says it all.

    Unlike the character in the Simpson’s “Panic” episode…….

    Morrissey has never made a “cash grab”, hasn’t sued any people for their attacks, has never stopped performing great shows, and is still a serious vegan and strong supporter for animal rights.

    By suggesting all of the above in this episode…the Simpson’s hypocritical approach to their storyline says it all.

    Truly they are the only ones who have stopped creating, and have instead turned unapologetically hurtful and racist.

    Not surprising…... that The Simpsons viewership ratings have gone down so badly over recent years."

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    so wait is matt walker not drumming for moz anymore?

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    https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threa...0-2021.148186/

    Morrissey's new album, BONFIRE OF TEENAGERS, has been completed in
    Los Angeles.

    "The worst year of my life concludes with the best album of my life." - Morrissey.

    The eleven tracks are:

    1 I AM VERONICA
    2 REBELS WITHOUT APPLAUSE
    3 KEROUAC'S CRACK
    4 HA HA HARLEM
    5 I LIVE IN OBLIVION

    6 BONFIRE OF TEENAGERS
    7 MY FUNERAL
    8 DIANA DORS
    9 I EX-LOVE YOU
    10 SURE ENOUGH, THE TELEPHONE RINGS
    11 SAINT IN A STAINED-GLASS WINDOW

    Morrissey is unsigned. The album is available to the highest (or lowest)
    bidder.




    artwork by Liam Lynch
    photograph by Jean Messenger

    Morrissey's 5 nights at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas start on August 28, and there are no anti-social distancing or facial concealment rules in place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threa...0-2021.148186/

    Morrissey's new album, BONFIRE OF TEENAGERS, has been completed in
    Los Angeles.

    "The worst year of my life concludes with the best album of my life." - Morrissey.

    The eleven tracks are:

    1 I AM VERONICA
    2 REBELS WITHOUT APPLAUSE
    3 KEROUAC'S CRACK
    4 HA HA HARLEM
    5 I LIVE IN OBLIVION

    6 BONFIRE OF TEENAGERS
    7 MY FUNERAL
    8 DIANA DORS
    9 I EX-LOVE YOU
    10 SURE ENOUGH, THE TELEPHONE RINGS
    11 SAINT IN A STAINED-GLASS WINDOW

    Morrissey is unsigned. The album is available to the highest (or lowest)
    bidder.




    artwork by Liam Lynch
    photograph by Jean Messenger

    Morrissey's 5 nights at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas start on August 28, and there are no anti-social distancing or facial concealment rules in place.
    WHAT. Still love Dog On A Chain so I'm excited for this. Hope it's more like that and less like LIHS

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    I wonder which track Iggy Pop guests on?

    Also, that last track title seems like it’ll be an homage to his late mum’s passing not too long ago.

    Edit: actually, just had an idea….

    Perhaps “Sure enough, the telephone rings” references the first moment he was made aware of his mum’s passing, and the following track “Saint in a stained glass window” is an homage to her? Would be a hugely poignant end to an album; even more so than the final track on IANADOAC.
    Last edited by Erneuert; 05-31-2021 at 06:54 PM.

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    New interview. He’s working with Alain Whyte again (omg yay!) on songs that will come out next year, not on Bonfire Of Teenagers.

    Album is talked about track by track. Some very sad parts about his mother’s death.

    >>

    It is too long to post here so here’s the link. I’ll post the bit talking about the new songs:

    TURNING THE INSIDE OUT
    questioning Morrissey's answers June 2021

    https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threa...5-2021.148341/


    SAM:
    I can't believe we've come this far in our talk without mentioning your new album Bonfire Of Teenagers. It's your most elegant and uplifting album. It doesn't sound like another step in the same direction. It is incredible to think that you recorded it so quickly, after your mother's death, and after BMG dropping you. Do you mind if we go track-to-track?

    M:
    Of course not.

    SAM:
    'I Am Veronica' is so clever, and so catchy, it sounds like your biggest chance at a worldwide hit … even more than 'First Of The Gang To Die', or 'This Charming Man'. It is better than both of those songs.

    M:
    I've had so much sorrow in my life recently but I listen to 'I Am Veronica' and, as frightening as this sounds, it seems to shine such a positive light and I begin to understand all the good things about my life. Now, that might sound silly, but I forget very easily that there are a few things in life that I am actually good at, and 'I Am Veronica' makes me understand why I persist, or why I do what I do. I love the song so much.

    SAM:
    'Rebels Without Applause' is the same … by which I mean, there's something about your enthusiasm on this track, and how, again, it sounds like … potentially … a number 1 single, even though … what does being number 1 mean anymore?

    M:
    Yes, it's unfortunate, but most number 1 songs don't seem to … well, there was a time when songs reached number 1 because people liked them, and because the songs brought a love of music to the listener, or something. We all know this doesn't happen now, and whatever becomes number 1 is just a question of product and clever marketing.

    SAM:
    You mention Generation X and X Ray Spex in 'Rebels Without Applause'. Were these your favourite punk bands?

    M:
    They were great London bands, and it was great collecting their singles … as with The Jam … and the excitement of waiting-to-buy something that would be released on a Thursday … and you could find it in at least ten shops in Manchester, well, it's sad to reflect on how enjoyable all of that was and how it was needlessly chopped away.

    SAM:
    'Kerouac's Crack' is about Jack Kerouac, and therefore Allen Ginsberg becomes the first person to be mentioned in two of your songs. Again, this song is like a participation song and could also be a hit but for the word 'crack', I suppose.

    M:
    It's a reference to the point whereby as a writer he cracks up.

    SAM:
    Yes, I know. 'Ha Ha Harlem' is the song easiest to imagine live. It has a lot of lyrics and a lot of musical changes. You also use very high falsetto. I think some people were wondering if you could even sing that way any more. Musically, it is phenomenal, yet only Jesse (Tobias) from your usual band is on the album. Was is difficult working with musicians who I suppose were strangers?

    M:
    No. It gave me a new curiosity because I didn't know how anyone would play or interpret the song, but it all came together instantly and that absolutely amazed me. The moods, the twists, the precision … it's difficult to do well, and I was blessed with a most supremely intelligent producer. He played and sang backing vocals on every track … so beautifully … and brought something that no one else could hear into each track. I felt scorched by 'Ha Ha Harlem' … we all just looked at each other in astonishment saying 'where the hell did THAT come from?'. 'Ha ha Harlem / where they want to keep you OUT OF YOUR MIND!" … the bass is a ferocious rasp … distorted at times …

    SAM:
    The song also mentions James Baldwin, whom I know you love, and there's a line … 'you can't deal with people who want nothing' which I think is the most apt lyric of your life, or for your life.
    I understand why you don't want to mention the names of the people on your album at this stage because, as you say, you have a lot of dedicated haters who will stalk or pester anyone who works with you in search of gossip.

    M:
    Yes, that's unfortunately correct, although I don't understand it. Most of the dedicated haters just want to get their names on Wikipedia because I can't possibly offend anyone to such a manic degree. I mean, there's kids being knifed every day in central London … I spend all my spare time trying to memorize the names of plants. How do I threaten anyone?

    SAM:
    'I Live In Oblivion' is so powerful it's actually unsettling. How do you fit rhythmical lines in between crashing marching drums? I didn't ask that question very well. The last two minutes are devastating and chilling… it's tearful before you even understand why.

    M:
    I don't know. I only did the vocal twice. It's all instinct. It's the only thing I have instinct for.

    SAM:
    You sing 'I apologize, I grew old' - is this how you feel personally?

    M:
    A little, but this is because people often forget that I am actually 62 and not 27, and obviously the body changes every seven years and there's nothing you can do about it. You must just accept it. The awkward aspect is that we all stay the same age inside till the day we die.

    SAM:
    Is this why you no longer do photo sessions?

    M:
    Not necessarily. I've never thought I looked particularly good, and I'm not here for my looks. As you age the body goes wrong. It's nothing to do with me, and you can't pretend what is happening isn't happening. I woke up one day and had Robert Mitchum's chest. I have no idea how that happened. But would I want to look like a skinny adolescent? That would be horrifying.

    SAM:
    'Bonfire of Teenagers' the track is magnificent, but you must be expecting some manufactured paranoia … the usual 'you can't sing about THAT' pearl fumblers.

    M:
    … because?

    SAM:
    It's about the Manchester Arena Bombing.

    M:
    It's about the kids who were murdered, yes. We are not encouraged to look beneath the surface because it's dark and hidden. But the song is anti-terror, and anyone who finds that offensive can only be devoid of personal morality. As your brother once said to me, the Manchester Arena Bombing was Britain's 9/11. We should appreciate anyone who asks questions.

    SAM:
    But there is a very annoying necessity everywhere for debating something that is actually factual. Doesn't this exhaust you?

    M:
    It wasn't always so. I spoke several times in the late nineties of a noticeable dumbing down of Britain, and it is now fully in force and I think most noticeable in the new flux of television commercials which, for me, makes watching television unbearable. I might sometimes want to see a certain program but I won't switch on because I know the moronic dancing commercials will make me ill.

    SAM:
    'My Funeral' is beautiful and quite folksy in a 'Half A Person' way … and again … you mention Dwight Frye and Bruce Lee and it's humorously sad. I think this type of song is what you are best at. Do you understand?

    M:
    Yes. It's been said. Pillowy more than depressing, though.

    SAM:
    'I Ex-Love You' does unmistakably have a certain Smiths sound. Intentional?

    M:
    Yes, it's a trap. I'm trying to live up to my trashy reputation. No, sorry, I was talking to the plant.

    SAM:
    The best two tracks are the final two in my opinion, 'Sure Enough, The Telephone Rings' and 'Saint In A Stained Glass Window'. They are so physical that it almost becomes exhausting, and the choirs are … are they real people?

    M:
    Yes! Real people with their own bodies.

    SAM:
    'Sure enough the telephone rings / who wants my money now? / otherwise the telephone never would ring', are the lyrics. Is that how you feel about your life?
    M: Resolutely.

    SAM:
    and on 'Saint In A Stained Glass Window' you are asking Jesus to let you die because you've had enough. Is that also how you feel?

    M:
    Well, since the death of my mother - which was so awful - I've been between two worlds, and unfortunately time only moves in one direction. We can't go back.

    SAM:
    Do you think, as remarkable as this album is, that any major label will sign you?

    M:
    No. It almost hardly matters that the album is remarkable. It almost hardly matters that you have a dedicated audience. These are no longer important considerations.

    SAM:
    What is it, then?

    M:
    The music industry is punishingly weak now, and it only wants to sign a product that can just about amuse at lunchtime. You are said to be difficult if you can actually express yourself. And that's what makes me me.

    SAM:
    It's very sad.

    M:
    It could be worse - I could be hanging upside down in a butcher's window.

    SAM:
    In a way, you are.

    M:
    Not really. I can still walk on land.

    SAM;
    I have a few more straightforward questions from your fans … and I know you dislike the word 'fans' but I don't know what else to call them. So, here goes. I'll read them off cards like on University Challenge. One: your best album?

    M:
    Bonfire Of Teenagers, World Peace Is None of Your Business and California Son.

    SAM:
    Two: your best single?

    M:
    'It's Over'. I regret 'Istanbul' and 'The Bullfighter Dies' never being issued as singles, but the label just wasn't in the mood. It's never a problem to deliver strong singles, but it's very difficult to get them released.

    SAM:
    Three: what is your favourite film of all-time?

    M:
    'Hot Spell' from 1957 … Shirley Booth, Shirley MacLaine, Earl Holliman, Anthony Quinn, Eileen Heckart.

    SAM:
    Four: will you wear an Elvis Presley jumpsuit when you play Vegas in August?

    M: Yes.

    SAM:
    Five: you biggest honour?

    M:
    Sophia Loren coming to see me at the Hollywood Bowl.

    SAM:
    Six; what will be the name of your new cat?

    M:
    Chester Bennington.

    SAM:
    Seven: will you ever return to Norway?

    M:
    I don't think I'd ever be asked.

    SAM:
    Eight: will you play soon in Poland?

    M:
    Without any doubt. I love being in Poland.

    SAM:
    Will the UK ever be out of Lockdown?

    M:
    It isn't really in Lockdown except for people at the lower end of the social ladder. People who have wealth are not remotely affected by rules and regulations. Their lives are as they always were. The police only fine people who live on council estates. Haven't you noticed?

    SAM:
    Ten: when did you last cry at something on the television?

    M:
    When I accidentally turned it on.

    SAM:
    Eleven: do you see yourself doing this at 70?

    M:
    It doesn't take much eye strain to see that far ahead.

    SAM:
    Twelve: what deceased personal friend do you miss the most?

    M:
    Well, my mother was my best friend … but you mean otherwise and so I'd say Victoria Wood or Peter Wyngarde. I have lots of hand-written letters from both of them … which is odd these days, isn't it.

    SAM:
    Thirteen: will there ever again be Morrissey interviews in the music press?

    M:
    No. I'm never asked… as far as I know.

    SAM: Fourteen:

    M: Fourteen!

    SAM:
    if you were to play a famous character in a film who would it be?

    M:
    Columbo. I'm already dressed for the part, as you can see.

    SAM:
    Here's to Bonfire Of Teenagers!

    M:
    Here's to tomorrow … will it really come?

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    There are fears that the Vegas residency shows won’t go ahead, but management re-posted the tour advert today with nothing to the contrary, so it looks like it’s still going ahead.

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    For anyone interested, an alternate take with an additional verse and words at the outro:



    A cold water room / it's not much, I know / but for now it's where I belong / Am I really doing wrong? / Around the centre of town / is where I belong / Am I really doing wrong?

    So why do you smile when you think about Earls Court?
    but you cry when you think of all the battles you've fought (and lost)?
    it may all end tomorrow or, it could go on forever (in which case: I'm doomed)
    it could go on forever... (in which case: I'm doomed)

    No dad, I won’t be home tomorrow
    No dad
    No dad
    No dad


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    !!!!!

    https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threa...9-2021.148410/

    "THE BOYS IN THE BAND" (July 19, 2021)











    The Morrissey Band line-up for the 5 upcoming Vegas concerts is


    Jesse Tobias, guitar

    Alain Whyte, guitar

    Solomon Walker, bass

    Gustavo Manzur, keyboards

    Brendan Buckley, the drums













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    Crazy Boz isn't involved after all these years.

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    What do we all think the set list will be for the August 28 gig?

    I’m personally hoping for a few of the new tracks from Bonfire Of Teenagers. So glad Alain is back!

    https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/morri...-438cf7b7.html

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    Opened the first show with Never Had No One Ever (live debut for Morrissey solo).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    Opened the first show with Never Had No One Ever (live debut for Morrissey solo).
    https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/morri...-438cf7b7.html

    Other notable mentions:

    This Night Has Opened My Eyes (live solo debut)
    Knockabout World (live debut)
    What Kind Of People Live In These Houses? (live debut)
    The Lazy Sunbathers (live debut)

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    Great setlist!

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    Second show highlight:


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    2/5 nights down and still no new song debuts! From BOT I mean.

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    Third gig opened with How Soon Is Now? and Everyday Is Like Sunday. Sigh.

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    lmao…

    ”And you go home… oh, shit!”

    https://www.instagram.com/p/CTWJtWVDE_n/

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    Rick Astley to perform Smiths songs live in October, lol.

    https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threa...4-2021.148641/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post

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