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    Quote Originally Posted by [parasite] View Post
    here’s a new in-depth review of Wish

    https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/the-cure-wish/


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    This really summates what I was trying to say a few pages back:

    “It worries me and everyone that I know of my age.” There is a reason why so many of his lyrics turn to Christmastime and kittens and first loves—formative symbols that carry past adolescence, never losing their sentimental appeal.

    In a sense, the Cure’s entire body of work can be heard as an inquiry into how childlike emotion fares against the crushing tedium of adulthood. “For me, the idea of growing up is this idiot idea, because I was more grown up when I was 13 than I am now,” Smith said in 2004. “To me, grownups [were] people that kind of sighed a lot and had worry lines and looked forward to the weekend. I don’t look forward to the weekend at all.”

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    I don’t get this.

    The last we heard the dark album was “finished and ready to go” with 10 tracks, cover art etc.

    Now this? Now it’s 12 tracks? And more vocals to do? What?

    https://floodmagazine.com/109237/the...-october-2022/

    “Reeves [Gabrels] our guitar player has come over from America for the day just to finish a couple of solos, I’ve got to finish a couple of vocals,” he added. “Essentially it’s a 12 track album. It’s there, it’s kind of half-mixed and half-finished. It’s a weird thing. It’s kind of evolved over the last two years. It hasn’t always been a good thing to have been left alone with it. You pick at it, like picking at seams, and everything falls apart."

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    this album doesn't exist. not in any form we will ever hear.

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    Unrelated to anything recent, I finally heard that "Purple Haze" cover up close in good headphones.... pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DVYDRNS View Post
    this album doesn't exist. not in any form we will ever hear.
    I like how he says “it’s a weird thing”.

    If that’s a weird thing I don’t even want to talk about the second album and the solo “album of noise”. It sounds like he’s one of those people that go back and repaints things over and over and someone needs to pull him away from it finally.

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    Yes thatís exactly what it sounds like

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    Billy Howerdel recently saying La Ment is one of his favourite songs (https://www.echoingthesound.org/comm...Howerdel/page4) has made me raise the question again… is it La Ment or Lament? So many Cure songs are printed differently.

    Love Song / Lovesong

    The Love Cats / The Lovecats

    In Between Days / Inbetween Days

    Hey You! / Hey You!!!!

    How Beautiful You Are / How Beautiful You Are…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    Billy Howerdel recently saying La Ment is one of his favourite songs (https://www.echoingthesound.org/comm...Howerdel/page4) has made me raise the question again… is it La Ment or Lament? So many Cure songs are printed differently.

    Love Song / Lovesong

    The Love Cats / The Lovecats

    In Between Days / Inbetween Days

    Hey You! / Hey You!!!!

    How Beautiful You Are / How Beautiful You Are…
    To me it's always:

    Lovesong
    The Lovecats
    In Between Days
    Hey You!!!
    How Beautiful You Are...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxto View Post
    To me it's always:

    Lovesong
    The Lovecats
    In Between Days
    Hey You!!!
    How Beautiful You Are...
    It’s weird how it’s printed as Love Song on the Disintegration album sleeve but the single has it as Lovesong.

    But then why isn’t Plainsong … Plain Song?

    Or Siren Song for that matter.

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    Oh man, we really need the Wish remaster and/or the new album...these song titles are driving us crazy lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    is it La Ment or Lament?
    Lament is a word right? And itís something that fits right in with the mood of the song. So Iím sure La Ment is just some stupid mistake. But Iím no authority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmtd View Post
    Lament is a word right? And it’s something that fits right in with the mood of the song. So I’m sure La Ment is just some stupid mistake. But I’m no authority.
    Yeah, but then it makes me think it could be a play on words and that the lake or whatever the person in the song fell into is called “La Ment”:

    Today there was a tragedy
    Underneath the bridge
    A man walked
    Cold and blue
    Into La Ment

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    Where the fuck is this album guys lol

    Also, do we think It Can Never Be The Same will be on it? Probably the opening track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    Where the fuck is this album guys lol
    It's coming out as boxed set with new Postishead and Boards of Canada. Any day now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fillow View Post
    It's coming out as boxed set with new Postishead and Boards of Canada. Any day now.
    And the two (!!) new albums from My Bloody Valentine.

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    I think I have everything on the 3 cd version. I'm more excited for the Pink Floyd "Animals" remaster & surround sound.

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    The full tracklists for the ‘Wish’ 30th anniversary reissues are as follows:
    CD1 Original Album Remastered by Robert Smith and Miles Showell at Abbey Road Studios:
    01: Open (6:51)
    02: High (3:37)
    03: Apart (6:38)
    04: From The Edge of The Green Sea (7:44)
    05: Wendy Time (5:13)
    06: Doing The Unstuck (4:24)
    07: Friday I’m In Love (3:38)
    08: Trust (5:32)
    09: A Letter To Elise (5:14)
    10: Cut (5:55)
    11: To Wish Impossible Things (4:43)
    12: End (6:45)

    CD2 Demos – All previously unreleased versions:
    *Unreleased track.

    01: The Big Hand [1990 Demo] (4:38) [final version on B-side to A Letter To Elise 7”]
    02: Cut [1990 Demo] aka “Away“ (3:31) [final version appears on WISH]
    03: A Letter To Elise [1990 Demo] aka “Cut” (5:01) [final version appears on WISH]
    04: Wendy Time [1990 Demo] (5:13) [final version appears on WISH]
    05: This Twilight Garden [Instrumental Demo] (3:25) [final version on B-side to High 7”]
    06: Scared As You [Instrumental Demo] (2:33) [final version on B-side to Friday I’m In Love 12“]
    07: To Wish Impossible Things [Instrumental Demo] (3:33) [final version appears on WISH]
    08: Apart [Instrumental Demo] (3:38) [final version appears on WISH]
    09: T7 [Instrumental Demo] (2:40) *
    10: Now Is The Time [Instrumental demo] (2:20) *
    11: Miss van Gogh [Instrumental demo] (2:48) *
    12: T6 [Instrumental Demo] (3:14) *
    13: Play [Instrumental Demo] (2:28) [final version on B-side to High 12”]
    14: A Foolish Arrangement [Instrumental Demo] (2:28) [final version on B-side to A Letter To Elise 12“]
    15: Halo [Instrumental Demo] (3:06) [final version on B-side to Friday I’m In Love 7”]
    16: Trust [Instrumental Demo] (4:02) [final version appears on WISH]
    17: Abetabw [Instrumental Demo] (2:26) *
    18: T8 [Instrumental Demo] (2:17) *
    19: Heart Attack [Instrumental Demo] (2:41) *
    20: Swing Change [Instrumental Demo] (2:10) *
    21: Frogfish [Instrumental Demo] (2:35) *

    CD3: ’Lost Wishes’ / Studio Out-Takes / 12” Remixes / Live / Rare / Previously Unreleased:
    *Unreleased track **Unreleased version
    01: Uyea Sound [Dim-D Mix] (5:28 [from Lost Wishes MC 1993]
    02: Cloudberry [Dim-D Mix] (5:22) [from Lost Wishes MC 1993]
    03: Off To Sleep… [Dim-D Mix] (3:47) [from Lost Wishes MC 1993]
    04: The Three Sisters [Dim-D Mix] (4:12) [from Lost Wishes MC 1993]
    05: A Wendy Band [Instrumental] (3:47) *
    06: From The Edge Of The Deep Green Sea [Partscheckruf Mix] (7:36) **
    07: Open [Fix Mix] (6:51) [B-side to High 12“]
    08: High [Higher Mix] (7:15) [High 12”]
    09: Doing The Unstuck [Extended 12” Mix] (5:54)
    10: Friday I’m In Love [Strangelove Mix] (5:29 [Friday I’m In Love 12“]
    11: A Letter To Elise [Blue Mix] (6:36) [A Letter To Elise 12”]
    12: End [Paris Live 92] (8:38) **

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    What does Dim-D mix mean?


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    Rick Beato could probably explain this. Something to do with chord progression, or added notes with chords.

    So it's coming October 7th! Cool!

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    Well IT'S ABOUT FUCKING TIME.

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    Glad to see this coming out. Can't believe it's been 12 years since the Disintegration reissue, holy shit. And not to be negative, but does this dropping in October basically mean that we won't get the new album this fall? I mean I'm not surprised, but I doubt they'd put this AND the new record out before Halloween. Hoping I'm wrong.

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    So Heart Attack is there. I wonder if Old England and Slvvy are on there under different names? I believe Slvvy was an instrumental demo of Doing The Unstuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burnmotherfucker! View Post
    Glad to see this coming out. Can't believe it's been 12 years since the Disintegration reissue, holy shit. And not to be negative, but does this dropping in October basically mean that we won't get the new album this fall? I mean I'm not surprised, but I doubt they'd put this AND the new record out before Halloween. Hoping I'm wrong.
    Not sure, but I wonder what is meant by a glitch?

    https://ultimateclassicrock.com/the-...eluxe-edition/

    Listening back to the album in 2022, Smith has said, “There’s a side to the album which I had kind of forgotten, a very gentle, yearning thing which is quite beautiful. ‘Trust’ is one of the best things we’ve ever done, I think, it’s played with great feeling, and ‘To Wish Impossible Things’ is another gorgeous, melancholic piece… in fact it could well be my favorite song on the record.”

    When Wish was completed, Smith felt that they had achieved everything they had set out to do, but there was a glitch. “In the studio control room, it all sounded excellent, but I got too busy sorting out our upcoming concerts to properly oversee the mastering. It was too late to do anything about it; the album was out, and we were off around the world again. It has really bugged for me for a very long time.” Remastering the album earlier this year has finally given Smith the chance to address this “It has taken 30 years, but finally, finally, my Wish has come true.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    Not sure, but I wonder what is meant by a glitch?

    https://ultimateclassicrock.com/the-...eluxe-edition/

    Listening back to the album in 2022, Smith has said, “There’s a side to the album which I had kind of forgotten, a very gentle, yearning thing which is quite beautiful. ‘Trust’ is one of the best things we’ve ever done, I think, it’s played with great feeling, and ‘To Wish Impossible Things’ is another gorgeous, melancholic piece… in fact it could well be my favorite song on the record.”

    When Wish was completed, Smith felt that they had achieved everything they had set out to do, but there was a glitch. “In the studio control room, it all sounded excellent, but I got too busy sorting out our upcoming concerts to properly oversee the mastering. It was too late to do anything about it; the album was out, and we were off around the world again. It has really bugged for me for a very long time.” Remastering the album earlier this year has finally given Smith the chance to address this “It has taken 30 years, but finally, finally, my Wish has come true.”
    Interesting. I've always loved the sound of Wish, it was the second Cure record I ever heard, but I've also always thought it was a bit thin or slight. Maybe that's what he's getting at. I'll be interested to hear the new master.

    Also I like he singles out "To Wish Impossible Things", it's one of my favorite tracks on the record.

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    fuck I was on a plane when the news dropped and the record is already sold out. Any known re-sellers/pre-order stockists who aren't on the cure linktree thing?

    Edit: pre-ordered thru Picadilly Records. fingers crossed
    Last edited by jmtd; 07-29-2022 at 03:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    When Wish was completed, Smith felt that they had achieved everything they had set out to do, but there was a glitch. “In the studio control room, it all sounded excellent, but I got too busy sorting out our upcoming concerts to properly oversee the mastering. It was too late to do anything about it; the album was out, and we were off around the world again. It has really bugged for me for a very long time.” Remastering the album earlier this year has finally given Smith the chance to address this “It has taken 30 years, but finally, finally, my Wish has come true.”
    Frankly to me this sounds like hype. I seem to remember him writing similar things about other releases, perhaps I'm thinking of Entreat. And thinking of Entreat Plus and some of the reaction it got, as well as how hot some of the last live album release was on the CD (versus the BD audio), and some of the the sound of Torn Down, I'd be a little worried about Smith at the mastering desk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    The full tracklists for the ‘Wish’ 30th anniversary reissues are as follows:
    CD1 Original Album Remastered by Robert Smith and Miles Showell at Abbey Road Studios:
    01: Open (6:51)
    02: High (3:37)
    03: Apart (6:38)
    04: From The Edge of The Green Sea (7:44)
    05: Wendy Time (5:13)
    06: Doing The Unstuck (4:24)
    07: Friday I’m In Love (3:38)
    08: Trust (5:32)
    09: A Letter To Elise (5:14)
    10: Cut (5:55)
    11: To Wish Impossible Things (4:43)
    12: End (6:45)

    CD2 Demos – All previously unreleased versions:
    *Unreleased track.

    01: The Big Hand [1990 Demo] (4:38) [final version on B-side to A Letter To Elise 7”]
    02: Cut [1990 Demo] aka “Away“ (3:31) [final version appears on WISH]
    03: A Letter To Elise [1990 Demo] aka “Cut” (5:01) [final version appears on WISH]
    04: Wendy Time [1990 Demo] (5:13) [final version appears on WISH]
    05: This Twilight Garden [Instrumental Demo] (3:25) [final version on B-side to High 7”]
    06: Scared As You [Instrumental Demo] (2:33) [final version on B-side to Friday I’m In Love 12“]
    07: To Wish Impossible Things [Instrumental Demo] (3:33) [final version appears on WISH]
    08: Apart [Instrumental Demo] (3:38) [final version appears on WISH]
    09: T7 [Instrumental Demo] (2:40) *
    10: Now Is The Time [Instrumental demo] (2:20) *
    11: Miss van Gogh [Instrumental demo] (2:48) *
    12: T6 [Instrumental Demo] (3:14) *
    13: Play [Instrumental Demo] (2:28) [final version on B-side to High 12”]
    14: A Foolish Arrangement [Instrumental Demo] (2:28) [final version on B-side to A Letter To Elise 12“]
    15: Halo [Instrumental Demo] (3:06) [final version on B-side to Friday I’m In Love 7”]
    16: Trust [Instrumental Demo] (4:02) [final version appears on WISH]
    17: Abetabw [Instrumental Demo] (2:26) *
    18: T8 [Instrumental Demo] (2:17) *
    19: Heart Attack [Instrumental Demo] (2:41) *
    20: Swing Change [Instrumental Demo] (2:10) *
    21: Frogfish [Instrumental Demo] (2:35) *

    CD3: ’Lost Wishes’ / Studio Out-Takes / 12” Remixes / Live / Rare / Previously Unreleased:
    *Unreleased track **Unreleased version
    01: Uyea Sound [Dim-D Mix] (5:28 [from Lost Wishes MC 1993]
    02: Cloudberry [Dim-D Mix] (5:22) [from Lost Wishes MC 1993]
    03: Off To Sleep… [Dim-D Mix] (3:47) [from Lost Wishes MC 1993]
    04: The Three Sisters [Dim-D Mix] (4:12) [from Lost Wishes MC 1993]
    05: A Wendy Band [Instrumental] (3:47) *
    06: From The Edge Of The Deep Green Sea [Partscheckruf Mix] (7:36) **
    07: Open [Fix Mix] (6:51) [B-side to High 12“]
    08: High [Higher Mix] (7:15) [High 12”]
    09: Doing The Unstuck [Extended 12” Mix] (5:54)
    10: Friday I’m In Love [Strangelove Mix] (5:29 [Friday I’m In Love 12“]
    11: A Letter To Elise [Blue Mix] (6:36) [A Letter To Elise 12”]
    12: End [Paris Live 92] (8:38) **
    I would dream of an official CD release of the Town and Country Club II (at least the pre version live track). The Big Hand as first song is just... perfect !! and the other pre version of the Wish on are also so great
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J9g-6GUPOg
    Last edited by CAMEO172; 07-29-2022 at 10:05 AM.

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    No news about a new record. Hey, that could be a song title for it!

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    Frogfish is an interesting title… lol.

    So Cut was originally called Away, and A Letter To Elise was originally called Cut. Interesting.

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