7:18 of this interview
7:18 of this interview
as many times as he has said "this is the last one" in the past....I actually believe him this time. he's in his 60's now, as hard to believe as it is. I see them (eventually) putting out this album, double album...whatever it may be, and Smith's solo album (which again, he's said for decades he had a solo album so I take this with a grain of salt) , see them touring for a few more years, but reducing the number of shows played...and then calling it quits. sadly I'm expecting them to call it quits within the next 5 years. hope I'm wrong.
5 years from now, 2026, would mark the 50th anniversary of the band, holy shit.
RS is only 5 years older than Trent.....It seems like he's much older because The Cures 1st album came out a decade before NINs and RS isn't in as good of shape as TR but.....only 5 year difference....
Trent is clean, Robert likes his wine. alcohol is a bitch tbh.
I can’t believe this is over 2 years old already.
Holy crap, this sold for £2,700.
https://bid.omegaauctions.co.uk/auct...pp=48&pn=1&g=1
The funny part is this video is from 2019.
it'll be a crime if a new album with this is never put out
Oh wow, Watching Me Fall is finally available on Apple Music (Bloodflowers).
Taken from the Vinyl Collectors United thread.
Really? A DE version of The Crow soundtrack is going to beat Wish?! @halo eighteen lol
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I was aware of The Cure since hearing them on the soundtrack to The Crow. But I spent this past evening sitting down and really listening to them, and I'm like, holy shit, this is great. Why didn't anyone tell me sooner?
Listen to “Pornography” from beginning to end, along with Faith and Seventeen Seconds. Then Wish, Disintegrarion, Bloodflowers.
Then the 2004 self titled album for a very heavy version of The Cure (for the most part).
The current, deepest cut we have from the band is “It Can Never Be The Same,” a lament to his late mother, which, most presumably, will appear on the upcoming album. Meanwhile, check out cuts like Charlotte Sometimes
and the b-side from the 2004 sessions, “This Morning”.
Thank you! Always appreciate a recommendation.
That recommendation above is a pretty good one. Although when I got into them it was kinda opposite for me. First I heard Disintegration and Wish then at some point I heard the track "The Holy Hour" and found out they had three dark albums on par with it in Seventeen Seconds, Faith, and Pornography.
I should add though that it is for sure worth checking out The Head on the Door, Kiss Me, and The Top. Probably in that order. They aren't as cohesive as the darker stuff and have more of a mixtape feel at times with some tracks being manic pop tunes and others being long atmospheric dirges. I got into the Cure for the dark stuff but somewhere along the way I started to appreciate the other side just as much. A track like "Doing the Unstuck" probably made me cringe the first time I heard it and yet now its kinda a personal favorite.
If you make it that far, you don't really need anymore recommendations, because like me you'll probably obsessively seek out everything they released. And then you too can be disappointed every time there is a post in this thread and it's not news of a new album.
Disintegration was my first purchase (and recommendation) way back in the 90s - and the album is phenomenal from both a pop culture standpoint and otherwise - but I think it was the Galore and Standing on a Beach/Staring at the Sea singles compilations that really sealed the deal for me. It's kind of amazing how you can take the hits from The Cure and they hold up just as well as the other album tracks, which in turn also hold up just as well as the b-sides. Wherever you start with this band, you're undoubtedly going to want to keep following the rabbit hole and seeking out new things. Whether it's due to Robert being some kind of compositional chameleon, or just constantly bringing in new line-ups, very few albums actually sound alike.
Looking back on everything now, I think Wish is my favorite album/era. It had a unique and memorable branding to the logo/artwork, and it was the closest to shoegaze-inspired balls-out rock that they ever got (perhaps only rivaled by the Ross Robinson-produced self titled album), yet still had some of the same introspective and minimalistic tendencies of their early eras.
Plus Lost Wishes and all the amazing b-sides from the time (Play, what a song). And with WMS, the b-sides there are on par with Wish material, IMO. Imagine if the majority of that album was made up of songs like Ocean, Adonais, Home, It Used To Be Me, A Pink Dream and Waiting.
The latter is so… dreamy. And lush, like Wish.
Tonight I'll dream a girl called home
And wake up in tears
All on my own
With the sun coming up
And my head against stone
Balcony dressed and drawn
Tonight I'll Dream a room so far away
Frost pale blue
The color of a perfect day
And then screw up my face
In the mirror
As I wait for the others to call
But if I don't believe in magic
And I don't believe in blood
And I don't believe in miracles
And I don't believe in love
Then how come I believe so soon
In a cherry tree girl
And a dust blue room?
Tonight I'll dream an hour so long
Shadow soft smiles
And everyone loves me
To open my eyes
In a drag myself face undone
Hard back into the world
Tonight I'll dream a dream I dream
Without even trying I'm flying I scream
As I practice the move
I spit at my pillow stained face
And the others all come
But if I don't believe in magic
And I don't believe in blood
And I don't believe in miracles
And I don't believe in love
Then how come I believe it seems
In a girl called home
And a world called dreams?
In retrospect it's super weird I never listened to The Cure much before now, because I'm actually a pretty big fan of Siouxsie and the Banshees and I know Robert Smith played on their album Hyæna.
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And he also made an album with Steve Severin
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Sunshine_(album)
Got a friend into The Cure recently. He is big into Joy Division and for some reason never checked The Cure out because he always assumed they were all about songs like "Friday, I'm In Love"...needless to say after I recommended Faith and Pornography, he became hooked. He told me he listened to Pornography like 30 times this past week and is becoming obsessed with it but he had to stop listening to the album because it was taking him to some "dark places" lol.....
Pornography would be in my top 5 favorite albums of all time but you have to be in the mood for it. If you listen to it when you're down, it will drag you under. I almost prefer to listen to it when I am in a good mood
Haha, I'm picturing someone thinking the Cure is all "its friday, i'm in love" and then you tell them what they really do is "it doesn't matter if we all die!"
I agree about Pornography though. And yet I still can't help it, anytime I find myself in a dark place I still throw it on anyways knowing its only gonna get darker. It's between that and The Fragile for my favorite album of all time on most days. And yet I like Faith and Disintegration just about as much and for different reasons.
The only thing that stops that album from being an outright watershed for me is The Figuredhead smack in the middle of the album, which sounds generic compared to the other seven songs, and bogs it down right in the middle for me. I know that’s considered a heresy in some circles, and it’s certainly not a bad song, it just doesn’t resonate with me like the other ones on the album do..
I wish instead he would have included something like “Lament” in its place, which is suitably dark but would also give that album a little bit more variation. That outtake Temptation Two from the 2-CD remastered version is also quality..
Whoa, hey now folks lets not get carried away in here with all the Figurehead/Short Term Effect talk. Pornography is a perfect album and I'll defend that any chance I get. I can see why you might say Short Term Effect could have been cut but I've sort of always seen that track as an interlude of sorts. It gives the album the sense of slipping further into disorientation. One Hundred Years is such a massive opening statement that I think without some sort of interlude following it, it just wouldn't flow as well. Short Term Effect is the wind up for what's to come. Not my favorite track on the album but I'd never cut it.
As for the Figurehead. Yeah, it's a perfect track imo. It's the centerpiece of the record. It's essential in every way. It's the only track that could possibly follow the perfection that is Siamese Twins. It's probably a top five Cure track to me. I can't see liking that album and not liking that track. One of the most darkly atmospheric pieces of music I've ever heard. Ok, I'm just beating a dead horse now. Only my opinions of course.
But really, listen to it again, then ten more times, then to this equally impressive live version.
On another note. I've been listening to Paris and Show a lot lately. I don't see them get discussed much so I have no idea what the fan consensus is on which is better. For me its always been Paris>Show.
Oh my god, that version of "The Figurehead" from Paris is amazeballs. That's kind of always been my favorite version. So rich and spacious. It's what got me into earlier Cure stuff when I was newly initiated and hadn't paid proper attention to the whole catalog.
Also, the version of "A Forest" from Show is possibly the definitive live version. Soooo good.
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That brilliant song "All Mine" they played on the Pornography tour would have fit the album perfectly as a closer. Too bad it was never recorded in studio. The Olympia version is the definitive version
According to my souvenirs, Paris was a live album for the fans : darker, "rare" tracks. These fans can't listen to Wish too much
Show is "only" a live show from nearly all US 1992 gigs.
It's funny to compare this tour : the US leg is really different to the Europe leg !
In addition to "The Figurehead", I think the versions of "At Night" and "In Your House" on Paris are also really fantastic. Again, more tracks that got me into early Cure stuff. Paris is a real hidden gem/secret weapon in the catalog.