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    Re: GODFLESH US tour postponement and refunds, etc - We have seen this from Ticketmaster "We just learned that your upcoming event has been postponed: Godflesh, Irving Plaza
    Saturday, October 19th with the doors opening at 9PM New date: To Be Announced! Your original tickets are still good and will be honored once the new date is announced.
    Need a refund? We'll refund your order, if requested, including fees....." So, we hope that this info will give everyone some idea of how the ticket refunds, etc will pan out, but please do remember that Godflesh as a band do not have anything at all related to the process of refunds, etc, this is all down to the organisation you bought your tickets from - for example, Ticketmaster, etc. The new dates will be announced within 24 hours; they are almost exactly the same cities and venues, only the venue in SF has changed. The dates will begin in Philadelphia on 11th April, and end in Austin on April 24th. We may even have another date or two on the West Coast besides Seattle, Portland, LA and SF.

    Again, very, very sorry for those who have lost out here, financially and besides, just know that we have too, considerably, this tour would have supported my family and I for some time, I now do not have that income. Thank you to those who understand and empathise, ultimately we're all in this together.

    I am sorry for those that still feel the need to blame the band, and/or anyone working for the band, we clearly understand how this can be angering, of course, though it's still quite bizarre, yet not at all surprising, that one would wish to blame the band they claim to support, more so than their own governments red tape and protocol, also, this level of ignorance, stubbornness, and immediate lack of the capacity to be understanding outside of oneself and one's own needs/indulgence, coupled with the obvious inability to hold discourse without resorting to lashing out verbally (and possibly even physically in a very 'real' context), before reasonably engaging one's brain, is actually one of the many issues I and Godflesh, and jesu to some extent, have been dealing with lyrically for many years, it's often still quite disheartening to find, time and time again, that SOME people buying (maybe) our music have traits that are genuinely offensive to us. Just remember, Godflesh is not 'tough guy' music, is not for empty macho posturing and flexing, we oppose these acts of banality, and perhaps not even coincidentally, internet posturing is just an extension of this, and arguably more insipid since it's so easy to hide behind one's keyboard and pour vitriol onto anything one wishes to, it's simply pathetic, real life is so much better, really, try it some time.

    And, for those who still claim to see a trillion bands from over here in Europe coming into the US in their droves without visa issues, and seem to have an inability to understand why we are not, coupled with the fact that we have had our visas stalled on an number of occasions in the past (besides Godflesh with the 'Hymns' tour, where I split the band up just before the tour, which oddly still seems to anger some - no GC Green? Is that Godflesh? No, it is not Godflesh), maybe some are not aware of this, or possibly would not want to be aware of this since it may somewhat put some things into perspective, but we wouldn't want that would we? No, just blame the band.

    Godflesh was invited to play the US in 1990; two shows in the Boston area, we had only just signed with Earache Records, they told us we could go to the US, guitar, bass and drum machine in hand, and literally say we're staying with friends, and play these shows, that nothing else was required, we, being very young and naive about this (I was just 20 years old), agreed that we should just do this, Earache claimed it would be fine, having themselves very little experience in dealing with sending bands to the US. Stupid, yes, in hindsight, of course. Upon our arrival we were taken separately into 'interrogation' rooms, found to be a 'threat' and promptly placed, almost physically (security / police escorted us onto the actual flight itself), and deported back to the UK, we were told this would not affect our future visits to the US. Well, it has ALWAYS affected us, we cannot come as a tourist to the US, only on work visas, we are quizzed extensively every time on this issue, and it contributes to stalling our visas, and there is simply not a thing we can do about this, nothing, all possible avenues have been exhausted, and why would they not be?

    So, we always have to allow more time to achieve work visas for the USA, BUT, bands can only apply once all the shows / dates are set in stone and confirmed, or you cannot apply for the visa, and, these dates / shows can never be solidified too early because this industry just does not work like that, this can be hard for some to comprehend, but when this is one's life, believe me, you comprehend it, this may help some gain a little perspective as to how these issues arise and how these things go wrong, but go ahead blame the band, please, it's the easy way out, but if that makes one feel better, so be it, ignorance is bliss; makes one feel better, and 'right', I mean it surely just couldn't be the responsibility of the USCIS and US government could it?!!!

    Some have asked why I feel the need at all to validate and qualify our position on this - because we wish for people to be understanding, to see outside of their selves a little.
    But that's it, we are done explaining, so be it, if you are still so angered, do not come and see the band, do not buy the records, hate us, if that makes you feel good.

    Thank you for listening, and if possible, like most of you, understanding, rescheduled dates soon.....
    Really good writeup from the man himself from the Facebook page. Sounds like the dates are going to be hopefully rescheduled for April. I feel bad that one mistake when he was 20 has caused so many problems throughout the years.

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    New dates

    4/10/14 - Irving Plaza - New York, NY
    4/11/14 - Theatre of Living Arts - Philadelphia, PA
    4/13/14 - Royale - Boston, MA
    4/15/14 - Metro - Chicago, IL
    4/17/14 - Neumo's - Seattle, WA
    4/18/14 - Hawthorne Theatre - Portland, OR
    4/20/14 - DNA Lounge - San Francisco, CA
    4/22/14 - The Fonda Theatre - Los Angeles, CA
    4/24/14 - Mohawk - Austin, TX



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    Quote Originally Posted by blackholesun View Post
    Really good writeup from the man himself from the Facebook page. Sounds like the dates are going to be hopefully rescheduled for April. I feel bad that one mistake when he was 20 has caused so many problems throughout the years.
    Yeah, US-style security has always been a load of Orwellian bullshit. My grandma once visited the Cayman Islands, and because it was cheaper, she went there via Miami rather than directly from the UK. When she went through the metal detector, it was triggered because she had a hip replacment. She ended up getting held and questioned for something like eight hours despite being a 70-something White British woman.

    Thank God her skin wasn't brown.

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    Got a ticket for the SF date, excited.

    Just hope they finally get to tour here, lol. On my bucket list of bands I still have to see. The list is not that long anymore.

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    I can't make the Chicago 4/15 show.
    I have a free ticket for anyone who wants it.

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    That sucks that you can't make it, I wouldn't miss the Austin show for the world. I'm fucking pumped.

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    Big fan of Godflesh... in the past few months got around to digesting the "JK Flesh" stuff... love it! "Idle Hands" feels like something off streetcleaner but recorded today. His violet and cloaks remixes are fucking great as well (as is "posthuman dub")

    Really really really wish him and The Bug would get back together and do a tour... bug/flowdan and JK flesh would be an amazing bill. Scorn would round it off nicely but apparently he hates Kevin Martin/Bug

    Also didn't see it mentioned here but Broadrick has a signature 8 string out soon

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    Definitely love the JK Flesh stuff. Also, excited for the new Godflesh releases this year. That new track sounds great. I've really gotten into the latest Jesu album of late. I wasn't so hot on it when it came out, but it might be my favorite Jesu record right now.

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    The album leaked and is streaming. So good!

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    Saw Godflesh back in June in London play a gig with legendary shoegaze band from late 80s who just reformed called LOOP. double headline type show.
    Godflesh were good the sound and accoustics was blistering but their set was short. The band after...Loop were absolutely jawdropping. One of the best bands ive ever seen, best rock band ive seen live in fucking years. did not expect it at all. just epic psychadelic distorted rock music. Cross between Janes Addiction and My Bloody Valentine., ipeople need to check them out, or better live. was like being at hendrix show or something. .just Mindblowing.
    Justin is a huge fan. Be great if they did some shows together again.

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    I think the guitarist from Loop played guitar on Pure. Heard the new album, which is great. The way Justin was going on about the album being different, I wasn't sure what to expect. It's definitely a godflesh album.

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    there's a bug/flesh collab in the works, apparently. One of them said something on twitter & someone who interviewed kmart told me that broadrick does some guitar on the new bug album

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    I am loving the new album after my 1st listen. Just got the cd today. You can tell he is playing a 8 string now. I like the subtle changes in their sound. The guitar is a little thicker yet less crunch on the distortion. The bass has a little more clarity, and the drums sound is awesome. It sounds like they made it now and not in the 90's. Which is great, I don't want them to feel they have to make a record that sounds exactly like Streetcleaner or Pure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exocet View Post
    Saw Godflesh back in June in London play a gig with legendary shoegaze band from late 80s who just reformed called LOOP. double headline type show.
    Godflesh were good the sound and accoustics was blistering but their set was short. The band after...Loop were absolutely jawdropping. One of the best bands ive ever seen, best rock band ive seen live in fucking years. did not expect it at all. just epic psychadelic distorted rock music. Cross between Janes Addiction and My Bloody Valentine., ipeople need to check them out, or better live. was like being at hendrix show or something. .just Mindblowing.
    Justin is a huge fan. Be great if they did some shows together again.
    I want another Loopflesh release myself:


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    posthuman has been reissued online and has those tasty/jizzgazmic dub versions of posthuman etc previously only available from the japanese 2 disc and dodgy polish blogs. GET IT

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    2-day passes are on sale now. I can't recommend this festival enough for industrial/electronic fans. The bands that have been announced so far are amazing, but there are some really exciting acts forthcoming. Learn more at www.coldwaves.net

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sutekh View Post
    there's a bug/flesh collab in the works, apparently. One of them said something on twitter & someone who interviewed kmart told me that broadrick does some guitar on the new bug album

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    So Jesu and Sun Kil Moon are working on a collaborative album.

    Honestly have no idea what to expect from this.

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    90’s indus metal was something else…

    Here’s a compilation with 5 bands influenced by Godflesh


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    Has anybody here listened to the new GODFLESH album yet? I've had it on 4 times all the way through so far and it was only out this morning. Absolutely brilliant and a real curveball from them at this stage of their career, which is nothing short of amazing. The first listen was a bit "what is this shit?" but it is getting better and better. Nothing at all like the last album. wow.



    Go on, don't deny yourselves the pleasures of the flesh.

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    justin did a remix of the ISIS song Celestial on thier SGNL O5 ep. its great!

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    Have had this on non stop since it was released. It makes everything else sound weak. Right up there with, if not the best of what (admittedly limited) releases I've heard this year. Here's one for those who can't be bothered with the full album stream:



    I'll leave it now, but what an album.

    EDIT: I also want one of those goldfish shirts

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    That tune sounds like something that would be on a JKB side-project, not Godflesh. I'm still waiting on my copy, so I don't know how it fits in with the rest of the tracks.

    Not knocking the song or anything, just think it's strange that it would be on a Godflesh album.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximilian View Post
    That tune sounds like something that would be on a JKB side-project, not Godflesh. I'm still waiting on my copy, so I don't know how it fits in with the rest of the tracks.

    Not knocking the song or anything, just think it's strange that it would be on a Godflesh album.

    That isn't even the strangest of them. I thought the same about a lot of the songs on the album during the first couple of listens. On the face of it, the song above is a lot like something from the first JK Flesh, but then I realised.... Benny Green. He really ties it all together and makes it distinctly Godflesh as opposed to the myriad of side projects JKB is involved in.

    The more I listen to the album, the more Godflesh it sounds, after the initial "WTF".

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    Agree with everything @astfgyl says. Longtime Godflesh fan, have spun all of their records countless times, but this is a Not the Actual Events-level smack in the face. I feared it would be just another JK Flesh album with added bass by Green (and sometimes it goes toward that direction), but, thankfully, the sparse, "hollow" mix perfectly encapsulates the nihilistic minimalism that is GODFLESH.

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    2 years later I must say, Post Self is still a fucking masterpiece......

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    I really need to hear more of that. Really dug what ive heard and dug it.

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