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Faceplams: I actually deem this not controversial.Originally Posted by AThousandDaysBefore
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I actually deem this not controversial.
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I guess ending up on John Crawford's shitlist wasn't enough for you?
I would implore anyone and everyone to not badger TR on social media about anything. No reason in particular, other than it's a rude thing to do and will likely cause him to bring down hellfire on you.
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Here you go.
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Not controversial but I just saw that Aaron North turns 40 today. Just wanted to say I never liked Aaron North and it never felt like NIN with the guy on board. His pentatonic scale soloes on Wish are the worst moments in NIN's live shows I've ever heard. Including drunk/wasted Trent during Fragility shows.
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Not sure how controversial this is, but each EP was worse than its predecessor.
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I believe each EP is less comfortable and less expected than its predecessor.
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His solo on "The Big Come Down" from Beside You In Time is kick-ass though.
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I kind of feel the same way. I had really high hopes after NTAE, but I felt like it was diminishing returns with the next two. There are a couple of tracks on each of them that I genuinely like and I appreciate the creative risk-taking that was done on Bad Witch, but it didn't end up growing on me much.
she/her/hers
"play the goddamn part" and "i'm not from this world" are my favorite songs on Bad Witch, and two of my favorite songs from the entire trilogy.
i feel like NTAE was amazing, AV was even better, and Bad Witch was fucking incredible.
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While I missed Robin, Aaron was perfect for the era he was in. He brought vitality to the live show. It felt fresh and exciting.
I very much hope he's been able to work through his mental issues.
Jeordie White, on the other hand, looked bored most of the time. Wasn't a huge fan. The rape allegations that've arisen since then do not help my opinion of the man.
God is an American
Aaron brought hardcore punk and anarchist Stooges energy to the table. His crazy Ron Asheton-inspired leads with the wah-wah pedal going off were always amazing, and visually he made the band look like it was going to fall apart at any moment in an exciting way. Terrific complement to the slickness of 'preparing to destroy you' With Teeth-era NIN.
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yes!
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I think Jason Newsted could rock NIN bass and be another dynamic presence for a live show.
I think Robin and him could work well together.
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I didn't get any of the last three EP's/LP's.
I did however get a 33 of Slam Bambaloo.
I am looking forward to any remasters of his demo's, side projects (no NOT TAPEWORM FUCK, TOOL.....no) and other bands.
I am not fond of Atticus Ross.
I am fond of NIN|JA
I was not entertained by NIN/QOTSA. I'm just glad the coin flip turned out Trent first. But "God is the Sun" is funny. Too bad I ditched after NIN finished.
I heard a rare song by Trent that night, something unreleased or something that may or may not be called filler or segway in the industry.
Although I enjoy the ups and downs of his music, I just DON'T watch his interview videos unless it is something to do with the "Wild Child" Channel.
I would be buying an new release if Trent got together with Grohl again, even Corey from Slipknot! \m/ v_v \m/
Trent wanted to be someone else, Henry Rollins is that person.
/end
Last edited by bRoot; 03-24-2019 at 06:52 AM.
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Holy shit man. I think you may have topped this thread. You're like the anti-NIN fan.
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Still prefer Robin's version, lol. But yeah, his version is not bad.
Yeah, both Arron and Jeordie made that era very unlikeable to me. Their backing vocals were awful too. For those on the verge of facepalming me just because I said I don't like a complete stranger, keep in mind I also hope Aaron has found some stability and I wish him well. There are many Icarus Line songs I like, I just didn't like him in NIN. As for Jeordie, I don't care about what rock stars do backstage and they all do a bunch of disgusting stuff we will never find out about so yeah... I truly hope Aaron is doing well
Agree to disagree. To me the whole act looked forced and kinda boring after the second or third show. Didn't like his tone, his style, nothing, lol.
Hope Aaron fans can handle this, I don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings with my words. With Teeth era was simply not my thing haha.
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I'm not going to facepalm anyone for having a different opinion, I'm going to facepalm those flaunting a dismissive, shitty attitude.
Josh Wink was on HLAH
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Grohl was on an EP of the trilogy. You're creating your own problems
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This is what happens when you become too wrapped up in your own dismissiveness.
Last edited by BRoswell; 03-24-2019 at 05:28 PM.
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Regarding the recent topics above:
Aaron played Only and TBCD WAY better than Robin ever has IMHO. Really don’t think Robin can play those well at allnactually.
The Trilogy: NTAE and AV were OK-ish, had some decent moments. Bad Witch is definitely my least favorite thing that Trent has ever put out under the NIN moniker.
I was nobody. Nothing.
I fucking LOVED the sheer insanity and, like, DAnGER, Aaron North brought to the WT era: specifically on BYIT ( the video.)
It was great. It was a "there and then" sort of thing.
But I found his energy to be utterly stunning. He brought back a TINY bit of That sense of DANGER from the 94-95 shows, and it was fucking AWESOME.
That being said, I was utterly THRILLED to see Robin at LITS. He was, HEY, the guitar player from the first few NIN shows I saw in the early nineties!
Now, I can't imagine The Nine Inch Nails without him, and don't really want to.
As for Georgie White, he sucks. I said this a few years back, and wound up apologizing.
But, now that the climate has changed, perhaps I can speak my mind.
He's just NOT A GOOD BASS PLAYER, live, at least, audibly fucking up from time to time, and he didn't bring much to the table in terms of stage presence, either.
NOW. I guess he wrote some of Thirteenth Step, and some pivotal MM records. I'm not talking about that, though, although I don't remember any stunning basslines on Thirteenth Step. I'm talking about JW as part of NIN 's live act. I didn't like it then, and I don't like it now.
If I sound JEALOUS, it's because I am: you know who could have like, NOT fucked up those basslines live? ME!
Alas, they never called. Idk why.
But, yeah, JW is like, my least favorite NIN live member.
Last edited by elevenism; 03-25-2019 at 01:27 AM.
Just tickles my balls!
I didn’t like JW either. In fact the only thing I remember about him is the meathead animation of him receiving perpetual blow jobs and looking blank.
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Robin has gotten way better at playing both of those tracks but I totally agree, Aaron's fuzzy messiness perfectly complimented those tracks and he absolutely killed them. The opposite of this, in my opinion, was Sin - Robin always owns that song while Aaron's version was usually underwhelming.
I loved Aaron North in NIN and am happy he seems to be in a better, more stable place now. He tends to get written off by a lot of modern NIN fans but the energy he brought to the shows was exhilarating and he was a terrific guitar player, way better than he typically gets credit for. Robin is for all intents and purposes the "official" guitarist and I wouldn't change that but Aaron's time in the band was definitely something special.
To echo previous sentiments, if anyone brought down the 2005-2007 lineups, it was Jeordie. Horrible stage presence, always seemed to have a "I'm too good for this" attitude (I seem to remember people saying he visibly yawned during SICNH and that kind of crap, anyone remember that?), and never really seemed into it. And that's not even getting into all the unsavory things we know now.
This was one of those things where Meathead was almost too accurate.
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I loved Aaron North. The way his guitar tone always sounded so strained like the guitar was in pain or something was super unique for NIN. It sometimes reminded me of Pixies. I can't say whether I prefer him to Robin, but he definitely brought something new to the table, which was refreshing considering how long Robin's played in the band.
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HUmphrey Borat done an awesome job on Eat Me, Drink Me.
Just saiyan.
Back to thread: Marilyn Manson made wiser career choices. And ballsy for the skinny guy who got trent to huff nos.
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Like what, exactly?
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He's not a good guitarist, either. He was on guitar for some reason for one of the Manson tours I saw and holy hell was Tourniquet a hot mess.
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Better record deals, collaborations with people that may or may not sing better on drugs.
Johnny Depp.
He get closer to issues that involve more than just himself, pretty wise and intellectual if you get past the whole makeup thing.
MM on Gave Up was def some high point for me.
until he burnt the wing.
really, gave up is an anti-smoking psa.
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"Hey Brian, can you hold the guitar and make it look like you're playing it?"
"Sure Trent!"
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I mean, TR has done collaborations with good people as well; Josh Homme, Dave Grohl, Robbie Robertson, Ian Astbury, Dave Navarro, Saul Williams, etc. On top of that, he's become one of the most sought after composers in the film industry, winning awards and being featured on best of lists. He's also been a creative director at two tech companies for music streaming services, which probably doesn't pay too bad.
He gets featured in headlining articles in most music media just about every time he does anything, even when the thing is just a quote about another topic. The guy's maintained a level of relevancy throughout the years that's pretty impressive, especially considering the style of music he makes. Manson, on the other hand, really only pops up when he does something like get drunk at a show or behaves erratically in an interview. Don't get me wrong, I like Manson's music, but I just don't see how his career choices have been notable in any way at all.
And also, Manson didn't actually collaborate on Gave Up, he was just featured in the video pretending to play guitar.
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