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    Quote Originally Posted by onthewall2983 View Post
    Trump signed law making animal cruelty a federal crime, the first thing he has put into motion I can think of that I agree with.
    This is great!

    Only other thing that comes to mind is him signing the largest wilderness protection bill in a decade. Kinda makes you wonder if he was just trying to outdo Obama, but fuck it, I'll take what I can get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthewall2983 View Post
    Trump signed law making animal cruelty a federal crime, the first thing he has put into motion I can think of that I agree with.
    I guess what they say is true - even a random crumpled up and coffee stained page from a 365-day desk calendar is right once a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthewall2983 View Post
    Trump signed law making animal cruelty a federal crime, the first thing he has put into motion I can think of that I agree with.
    well there goes the Romney and Huckabee support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magtig View Post
    This is great!

    Only other thing that comes to mind is him signing the largest wilderness protection bill in a decade. Kinda makes you wonder if he was just trying to outdo Obama, but fuck it, I'll take what I can get.

    I mean, I'll take what good I can get from this bastard, but this is low-hanging fruit to distract from the endless scandals. It really feels like "nobody's going to give me shit for trying to stop animal cruelty." This is still the first president in forever who refused a White House dog. He doesn't love animals.

    But fair enough, I'll take the bait, and say "thank you President Trump for doing something good, finally."

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    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...-court/602665/


    To date, presidents have resolved the question “Can a president be investigated and potentially indicted for state crimes?” by the excellent expedient of not committing state crimes. Trump has apparently found that too high a bar.
    lol

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    Trump starting to slowly distance himself from Giuliani. "Talk to Rudy" oooooohhh boy, is this story starting to get good now, finally?!
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...-other-clients

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    i love the poorly educated.gif

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegate View Post


    i love the poorly educated.gif
    I wish I could say this surprised me, but this is coming from the same people who claim to devote their lives to a humble immigrant carpenter who preached unconditional love and helping literally every single person, even those who have wronged you - and then turn around and scream that asylum seekers are flooding our borders to ruin our country and welfare is a scam that only lazy drug addicts use to rip off honest hard-working Americans.

    I don't think anything can make me think these people are any dumber than I already believe them to be. And that's a shame, because I honestly think the vast majority of them got that way through years and years and years of brainwashing, and that they're probably actually decent people at heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegate View Post
    Not surprising considering that people of the South are taught that the Civil War is really the "War of Northern Aggression" or the "War of Yankee Aggression" and think that Lincoln is akin to Hitler.

    Southern history is that Lincoln was the head of the "Black Republicans."

    The Southern indictment of Lincoln usually began with the assertion that he had made war unavoidable by opposing sectional compromise and then forcing the issue at Fort Sumter. After the first major battle of the war at Bull Run in July 1861, the Richmond Enquirer blamed him for all the deaths on both sides. "Of these men Abraham Lincoln is the murderer," it declared. "We charge their blood upon him.... May the Heavens, which have rebuked his madness thus far, still battle his demon designs."

    Confederates called Lincoln a "tyrant," a "fiend," and a "monster" for making war on civilians through the blockade, for authorizing the destruction of private property, for setting the likes of Ben Butler and William T. Sherman upon the Southern population, for suppressing civil liberties, for cruelly refusing to exchange prisoners, and, most of all, for emancipation, which they viewed as an incitement of slaves to rebellion and wholesale murder. In speeches, sermons, and songs, in books, magazines, newspapers, pamphlets, and broadsides, they also portrayed him as a simpleton, a buffoon, a drunkard, a libertine, a physical coward, and a pornographic story-teller.

    Hatred of Lincoln sometimes crystallized into threats against his life. For instance, soon after the firing on Fort Sumter, he received from Mississippi a newspaper clipping in which a reward of $100,000 was offered for his "miserable traitorous head." Spontaneous rejoicing at his death, though perhaps more the exception than the rule in the Confederacy, was nevertheless widespread. To a Georgia woman overcome with bewilderment and grief at Lee's surrender, the assassination came as "one sweet drop among so much that is painful." A Texas newspaper declared, "The world is happily rid of a monster that disgraced the form of humanity."
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    I have extended family that really actually refers to the civil war as "the war of northern aggression." Such a ridiculous person... she also thinks that intelligent design should be taught in public schools alongside evolution.

    Guess who she voted for (after Ted Cruz lost the primaries).

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    Honestly this feels like some weird sex setup. are we part of their kink?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegate View Post


    Honestly this feels like some weird sex setup. are we part of their kink?
    He probably puts on a blonde wig, a long red tie, and tells her that he's very disappointed with her today. Then she vents and tells him that she fucking hates everything about him.

    I don't know, the whole thing is too weird.

    EDIT: So now it's coming out that the president of Ukraine is hinting there was a quid pro quo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post

    EDIT: So now it's coming out that the president of Ukraine is hinting there was a quid pro quo
    What? Everything I read yesterday was about him denying such a thing. Not that I would expect someone in his position to admit it...but still, not sure where you're seeing that news?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    What? Everything I read yesterday was about him denying such a thing. Not that I would expect someone in his position to admit it...but still, not sure where you're seeing that news?
    It was an alternet article that I can't find now. Might actually have been fake news. It's a thing.

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    So far today in Trumpland:

    -Appeals court rules Capital One must turn over tax information to Congress (next stop: SCOTUS)
    -French President Macron uses "parent dealing with toddler" trick to make Trump speak positively about NATO
    -Direct Trump Quote of the Day: "I'm not going to let people take advantage of American companies because if anyone's going to take advantage of the American companies, it's going to be us."

    I feel like I'm already forgetting another one.

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    he did not say that. what?

    and here I was thinking he couldn't surprise me anymore.

    edit:
    https://www.opb.org/news/article/npr...omments-nasty/
    “Emmanuel had an idea: Let’s tax those companies. Well, they’re American companies,” Trump said. “I’m not going to let people take advantage of American companies. Because if anyone’s going to take advantage of the American companies, it’s going to be us. It’s not going to be France.”
    wow.

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    I just want this all to be over.

    There's so much bullshit noise going around, I just want it to stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post
    It was an alternet article that I can't find now. Might actually have been fake news. It's a thing.
    or, you know, not fake news.


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    House Intelligence Committee has released the draft impeachment report.

    Lots of commentary, plus links to both a summary and the whole 300 whopping pages of the report, right here.

    Curious to see who @Cat Mom is following on this one and what their respective takes are.

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    donny, this is not the alpha look you think it is.

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    https://publicpool.kinja.com/subject...ser-1840200887

    Trump was then apparently caught on mic congratulating himself and saying - and I quote - "that was funny when I said that guy was two-faced".

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    Trump was then apparently caught on mic congratulating himself and saying - and I quote - "that was funny when I said that guy was two-faced".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinsai View Post
    Please don't ever make me think of MST3K and Trump at the same time. I need my happy place, damnit.

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    do you have one in mind?
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    Pelosi today announced that she was asking the Judiciary Committee to move forward and draft Articles of Impeachment.

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    I want to change the channel, the writers are getting lazy.

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    I honestly thought yesterday's event was a total farce for both sides.

    Democrats: "allow us to direct all of our attention to the experts we called while ignoring the expert the Republicans called."
    Republicans: "allow us to direct all our attention to the expert we called while ignoring the experts the Democrats called."

    Could you have at least tried to act like you were attempting to make this appear bipartisan?

    I don't think there's any confusion as to where I fall on the "should this dangerous criminal be impeached" question. But Jesus, that was an absurdly unproductive waste of everyone's time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    House Intelligence Committee has released the draft impeachment report.

    Lots of commentary, plus links to both a summary and the whole 300 whopping pages of the report, right here.

    Curious to see who @Cat Mom is following on this one and what their respective takes are.
    Yes, I’m following closely. I think it’s too soon, investigation cut too short; I think the Democrats should NOT have withdrawn the Bolton subpoena and should have immediately filed a Petition for Writ of Certiorari based on a Motion for Summary Judgment, bypassing the lower Federal courts, to enforce the Bolton and other subpoenas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theimage13 View Post
    I honestly thought yesterday's event was a total farce for both sides.

    Democrats: "allow us to direct all of our attention to the experts we called while ignoring the expert the Republicans called."
    Republicans: "allow us to direct all our attention to the expert we called while ignoring the experts the Democrats called."

    Could you have at least tried to act like you were attempting to make this appear bipartisan?

    I don't think there's any confusion as to where I fall on the "should this dangerous criminal be impeached" question. But Jesus, that was an absurdly unproductive waste of everyone's time.
    Not surprisingly, I *LOVED* the hearing with the four Constitutional experts. I found it riveting, and did not view any of them as being Democrat or Republican.

    Sure, Jonathan Turley was called by Republicans; but his testimony was NOT against impeachment, per se; instead, his stance was to continue the investigation, including but not limited to the subpoenaed testimony of Bolton, Mulvaney, Giuliani, Parnas, etc.; and I totally agree with his sentiments.

    Yes, the Democrats shouldn’t have ignored Turley; they could have pressed him in ways that benefited them.

    The Republicans, on the other hand, didn’t want to hear anything the others said. The ranking member was visibly (and dramatically) yawning during some of their testimony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo View Post
    I just want this all to be over.

    There's so much bullshit noise going around, I just want it to stop.
    i just flat out stopped paying attention, as of late, and it's drastically reduced my anxiety

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