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Faceplams: If they haven't resigned to the label I'm not sure they would give new material to them. ie By and Down.Originally Posted by PhoenixML
Other than that I think you nailed the best of tracklist.
Billy Howerdel fanboy
If they haven't resigned to the label I'm not sure they would give new material to them. ie By and Down.
Other than that I think you nailed the best of tracklist.
Only By Night
Fuck out of here with this. The packaging looks great, but I have grown tiresome of live sets.. especially an overpriced one at that. I'll wait for it to leak and just download it since many fans are still patiently waiting for at least a studio version of "By and Down" which we will never get unless the new album is really a new album... I'll believe it when I see it I guess
Active Member
I'm hoping they clarify some of this a little bit. Like, if we'll be able to get any of the content outside of the box set or what.
Stubby Member
Ya the "360" name is all I'm going on to call it a greatest hits. Who the fuck knows with this band though.
Stubby Member
Also a teaser/trailer/one full song of the live dvd would give me a little more incentive to drop 200 bones on a boxset. Show me what I'm buying!
Unintelligible Whispering
I gave all three albums a spin yesterday for the first time in a little while.
I feel like if that People are People cover is in fact on this thing they should drop the price by sixty bucks.
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Active Member
I hate satire, too.
Unintelligible Whispering
Heh. Sorry, that's just a terrible cover on an otherwise decent album IMO.
I will say that while People are People is by no means my favorite APC track (and I would have MUCH prefered they kept Freedom Of Choice for the 2011 shows), I really don't think it was bad live. A lot of the Emotive tracks were much stronger live in my opinion so I am excited to finally have officially released versions of them.
Administrator
Why all the hate for People are People? I heard APC version years before the original and I still love it more.
Active Member
I totally agree about the eMOTIVe tracks. Hope I get a chance to hear 'em in CD quality.
Unintelligible Whispering
Reverse for me. The first time I heard it I thought it was just a weird, quirky thing. Then I heard the DM version later and was blown away by it, and began steadily disliking the cover. Same thing happened to me with James Iha's cover of A Night Like This by the Cure; I just don't think it did the original justice.
There's some great stuff on Emotive though. Fucking love "Let's Have a War".
i'm too thin
Am I the only one fucking stoked to get a good recording of Ashes to Ashes?
Also, regarding eMOTIVe and live versions, opening the shows with that awesome version of Annihilation was so amazing.
Last edited by Harry Seaward; 09-11-2013 at 10:24 PM.
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I think eMOTIVe is based on having heard the originals first. I mean, this might be a bit hyper textual, but I've always felt that the covers were essentially perversions of the originals. "People Are People" turned into a sarcastic take instead of a hopeful song. "Imagine" turned into a funeral dirge instead of a lighthearted call for social awareness. "Peace Love and Understanding" went from a catchy pop song to a song really begging for an answer to the question.
Only a few songs really stand apart from the originals. "Fiddle And The Drum," "When The Levee Breaks," "Passive," and "Counting Bodies...".
But oh man am I stoked for "Ashes to Ashes."
Throbbing Member
You meant Annihilation, not Passive.
Stubby Member
I'd never bothered to listen to People are People live before.....and I must say, huh.....wasn't a total shitstorm.
Active Member
Touché, sir.
Throbbing Member
Just got paid today, fuuuck should I buy this? Why couldn't this have been recorded in 2004?
Stubby Member
It kinda was. APC played Red Rocks for the final show of the 13th step tour. They played pretty much every song they had at the tim. They even played The Hollow twice in a row to get a good take of it. They planned a live DVD, but the only thing that ever surfaced was the live version of the noose from aMOTION.
The 2004 footage is the show I want to see.
Great friggin Setlist
Vanishing
Pet
The Hollow
The Hollow(take 2)
Magdalena
Weak and Powerless
Orestes
Blue
Thinking Of You
Breńa
A Stranger
The Package
Three Libras
The Nurse Who Loved Me
Thomas
Gravity
The Outsider
The Noose
Judith
They don't make em like that anymore
Throbbing Member
^^^Wow, amazing setlist. Wonder why it was never released.
Also...I caved. Here's hoping it won't collect as much dust as my Opiate reissue.
Throbbing Member
Well, I checked it out, and it's true. People are people is listenable live.
Active Member
That's great. The whole show is up for anyone looking. Does anyone know if there's a video/audio rip of similar quality for the live Gimme Gimme Gimme?
Okay being that it was nearly 10 years ago it's very possible that my memory is failing me but I was at the Red Rocks show in 04 and I do not recall The Hollow being played twice at all. I have heard that stated several times over the years so it's very possible it happened but is there an audio recording of that show floating around I can reference?
Active Member
That was a song I never really cared for on record, but I loved the way they played it live. Didn't even recognize it initially, and was pleasantly surprised! Say what you will about the setlists from the last couple tours, but I liked everything I heard at the Pittsburgh show. It was also my first (and so far, only)time seeing them, though.
I'm gonna wait until October and see if that collection is available, then I'll probably treat myself. I'm not dying to have it, but it would be a pretty cool little item to have. If nothing else, it'd look cool on my shelf or wall.
I'm also definitely in the "I wish it was in fucking blu-ray/not limited-release" club. Fuck me, but whatever, I'll bite.
Dis-member
I just want Red Rocks in 1080 Blu Ray, not sure why in the hell this is going to DVD and certainly won't buy the LE set.
Im sure they could sell just a BRD of this for ~$30.00 and people would eat it up after the box sets are sold.
Fucking DVD, welcome to 2013.
Active Member
That's part of why I'm so friggin' hesitant! I want it, but at the same time, my gut's telling me that I can get the meat of that box set either online for free or at least in a scaled-down format after they sell out. Faaaaack.
No clue if this is true but according to these listings the deluxe edition of Three-Sixty (whatever it is) will be two discs
http://www.ccmusic.com/music/cd/2649...le-three-sixty
http://www.ccmusic.com/music/cd/2649...le-three-sixty
Last edited by jaimie; 09-14-2013 at 02:58 PM.
Hairy Member
I know everyone is gushing over how EPIC APC was in 2004..but what about 2001? Man I saw APC 3/1/2001 about 2 1/2 months before I saw TOOL (5/20/2001) in the same venue at the Hammerstein Ballroom in NYC when I was 16 years old as my first concert, and man was I blown the fuck away.
I saw APC in 2001, 2003, 2004, and 2011. All were great fantastic shows. I'm just really shocked by the lack of love for APC back in the 2001 days when they were consistently playing Ashes to Ashes, Vacant, Diary of a Madman, 3 Libras Remix and the Over Remix. I've collected live recordings over the last ten years (how come no mentioin of the 6/4/2000 Phoenix SBD recording when APC opened for NIN??) including live shows infront of 100 people to the shows in 2011. I will have to say, since having seen them so many times my favorite era is 2001 and 2003. Those shows with Josh and Paz were killer. I saw Vacant (Before it was known as Passive) and Ashes to Ashes.
I have a live recording from 11/3/1999 (yes 1999!) in Phoenix, AZ with Rose having completely different lyrics/drumming as well as Orestes (Picture a parachute in a playground...), a stunning rendition of Diary of a Madman ("Diarrhea of a Josh Freese....Dear diahhrea..I'm here to stay! Whatever words I say I will always love JOSHHHHHH...THERE'S NOOOOO FREEEEESE!'') , and an alternate lyrics/ending of Magdalena ('I'm kneelin, and I'm prayin'...I'm here before you throwing my dollar down') that I cherish a great deal and which I will surely try and find and share. APC's acoustic performance on KROQ back in 2004 on 5/7/2004 is impressive as MJK takes time to explain each songs meaning before they play it (The Outsider is sung from the perspective of someone who is persecuting a loved one who is addicted and can't seem to wrap their head around the whole thing) Point being, there's a ton of great live stuff already out there if you look hard enough.
I do want to purchase this box set, but after having amazing recordings of sets like these
3/1/2001
Renholdėr
Thinking of You
Magdalena
3 Libras
Breńa
Orestes
Vacant
(Tapeworm cover)
Rose
Over
Thomas
Judith
Ashes to Ashes (David Bowie cover)
The Hollow
and
11/25/2003
Vanishing
Pet
The Hollow
Magdalena
Weak and Powerless
Rose
Blue
Thomas
The Package
3 Libras
The Nurse Who Loved Me (Failure cover) (with Ken Andrews)
Gravity
The Outsider
The Noose
Judith
it's hard to pull the trigger. As mentioned before anyone who has the 6/4/2000 Phoenix APC SBD recording knows how good APC can sound live. I really do want to purchase this box set, and compared to the Opiate Reissue (which I did buy) you get a ton of awesome stuff, but I can't really justify it right now.
As far as speculation of 360, I'll just have to wait and see what APC or MJK says about it rather than pay attention to any rumors. This whole mystery album shows up on websites before announcement feels so early 2000's.
Last edited by MONKEYlovesYOU; 09-14-2013 at 06:22 PM.
bastard from blue city
this is part of why i fell for the band. listening to those 2001 bootlegs with the first performances of "Renholdėr" (so fantastic with Paz on violin and then the full band!), "Over" (why did they not record this in a studio?!), the "3 Libras" Massive Attack remix (glad this will be on the upcoming box release, anyway), "Vacant" (SO much more powerful than "Passive"), and the extended or alternate versions of "Thomas," "Orestes" and so on... it felt like something building constantly upward, a band worth being completely excited about while anticipating their next move. sadly, nothing manifested, despite how BH could probably have put together live releases as good as that Phoenix live promo and at least gotten out some amazing recordings that way.
i'm hoping we get retrospective releases at some point. there's no way the band or label didn't record these initial, powerful tours when the band really had something to prove.
Hairy Member
I first heard APC before I heard TOOL back in 2000. A friend played me a cassette (yes a cassette) of Mer De Noms during Electronic Music Class in High School. He played me Judith, Orestes, and 3 libras. I was instantly hooked. I never heard a band or a singer like that in my life. I went o Sam Goody immediately after school and purchased the CD. Man did that CD get its fair share of listens. For the first time I ever I really felt connected to a band emotionally and musically, and really thought they were going to the biggest band ever. Nothing on the radio sounded like this. Nothing I had ever heard sounded like this band. I begged and begged until my parents agreed to take me (16 years old at the time) and my 13 year old brother to see APC at the Hammerstein Ballroom. What I saw that night I Will never forget. That show, that performance is what made me a junkie for live music, live concerts, and anything APC or TOOL related.
I could go on and on about how that same friend introduced me to TOOL (Pushit and Aenema were the first two songs he played me at his house before I went on a road trip with my parents, as he lent me the 'Aenema' CD for the trip and I become OBSESSED with 'H') but I'll save that for another time.
Anyways, APC has always had a special place in my heart. First REAL band I got into, first Concert I Ever attended, and I really think APC is the reason why I am into the music I am into and create the music I create today. I know it sounds cheesy but its the truth. I feel like I really should pull the trigger on this box set but I just can't see spending nearly $200 on it.
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