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    Quote Originally Posted by millhouse View Post
    Does anyone have any information regarding the initial release of the With Teeth-era rehearsals? There were a couple of sets of 3 tracks, a 15 track set, and a 14 track set, along with a few others IIRC.

    Anyone remember?
    http://www.reflectinginthechrome.com...ehearsals.html these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wunderpanda View Post
    Yup, those. I'm of the understanding (from a non-RITC released version of them) that there was a set of 3 tracks, a set of 6, a set of 14, and a set of 15.

    I'm wondering the order of release, as the old thread on the old ETS is long gone...

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    i still have the original order, i can send a pm in a few minits

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    Quote Originally Posted by wunderpanda View Post
    i still have the original order, i can send a pm in a few minits
    Thanks! Much appreciated.

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    ok, the list on RITC is in order actually.

    Gave Up to Sin was the first set of 15
    Eraser to Big Come Down was set of 14
    Only to Hurt was set of 6
    and the last 3 are a set also

    i see that there wasn't a track 8 in the set of 14 i have, but the tracks still line up with RITC, guess i labeled wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by wunderpanda View Post
    ok, the list on RITC is in order actually.

    Gave Up to Sin was the first set of 15
    Eraser to Big Come Down was set of 14
    Only to Hurt was set of 6
    and the last 3 are a set also

    i see that there wasn't a track 8 in the set of 14 i have, but the tracks still line up with RITC, guess i labeled wrong
    No track 8 for set 2 in my files either. Unless you distributed it, i'd say its a mixup from the original source, or whoever redid the id3 data.

    Thanks for your help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by screwdriver View Post
    I'm resurrecting this thread (as opposed to a new one) because I popped in With Teeth today and just wanted to opine that it is so criminally underrated. When this thing is loud, I think 13 hard punches to the face is spot on. I think its the last NIN album I liked unreservedly. it makes me long for TR to get back to writing pop songs.
    hey, wow, my wish came true! Hestitation Marks is the first NIN album since With Teeth that I like unreservedly! Hooray!
    (Thanks to whoever just clicked "like" on this post and reminded me of its existence.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by millhouse View Post
    No track 8 for set 2 in my files either. Unless you distributed it, i'd say its a mixup from the original source, or whoever redid the id3 data.

    Thanks for your help!
    IIRC there was one song that was never leaked from the rehearsals

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leviathant View Post
    I'm not aware of any With Teeth demos. There was rampant speculation when "Getting Smaller" and "The Line Begins to Blur" were leaked, that they were 'unmastered' or 'unfinished' tracks. People swearing up and down that in no way could this possibly be a finished NIN track. I'm pretty sure at least one person left ETS after With Teeth came out in relation to the noise they made about how the final version wouldn't be nearly so stripped down.

    The only hints that I recall we have about With Teeth demos come from the copyright office, where, for example, Love Is Not Enough is also referenced as "The Clamp".
    The Clamp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    The Clamp?

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    lol. So LINE was at one point listed as The Clamp?

    The page linked there doesn’t mention it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    lol. So LINE was at one point listed as The Clamp?

    The page linked there doesn’t mention it.
    Try this link: https://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pw...17051607&SID=4

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheBang View Post
    Clamp on the floor, so cold it can ssssssssting.

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    I love clamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_guyet View Post
    I love clamp.
    Do you really love the clamp, or are you just saying it because you saw it?

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    I’m actually trying to figure out where anything clamp-related could fit within the context of Love Is Not Enough.

    The woman was a clamp on his heart? Moreover, @piggy, is The Clamp mentioned anywhere on the ninwiki page for LINE?
    Last edited by Erneuert; 06-22-2021 at 11:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    I’m actually trying to figure out where anything clamp-related could fit within the context of Love Is Not Enough.

    The woman was a clamp on his heart? Moreover, @piggy, is The Clamp mentioned anywhere on the ninwiki page for LINE?
    I've added this tidbit to the LINE page now.

    As for the working title, the song definitely had different lyrics (and perhaps also different subject matter) at its genesis. The copyright office page says "New Matter: rev. lyrics." under basis of claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erneuert View Post
    I’m actually trying to figure out where anything clamp-related could fit within the context of Love Is Not Enough.

    The woman was a clamp on his heart? Moreover, @piggy, is The Clamp mentioned anywhere on the ninwiki page for LINE?
    "Well it hides in the dark
    Like the withering vein
    We didn't give it a mouth
    So it cannot complain"



    I always thought it was a reference to vein clamps used in surgery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by piggy View Post
    I've added this tidbit to the LINE page now.

    As for the working title, the song definitely had different lyrics (and perhaps also different subject matter) at its genesis. The copyright office page says "New Matter: rev. lyrics." under basis of claim.
    And let’s not forget how it initially did not appear on the official website track list for the album until hours (or a day?) later. Rob ended up amending the typewriter image of the track listing and added LINE there as an eleventh hour change of heart perhaps?

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