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you must not know many gun rights advocates thenOriginally Posted by Mantra
Police are Now Shooting Licensed Gun Owners – Where is the GOP?
Black Lives Matter and So Do Their Gun Rights: Where’s the NRA on Philando Castile?
Hell, even the guy in Dallas who was open carrying the AR-15 (who was wrongly labeled as the shooter) was someone making this point. A LOT of 2A advocates are pissed about a CCW being shot down for legally carrying and notifying.
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Actually, they didn't even have a broken tail light; the cop made that up, and now @Mantra 's new news indicates that the cop pulled them over thinking they were robbery suspects due to Castile's "wide nose" (evidently a rarity to the cop, duh).They were stopped because their car had a broken tail light. That's it.
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Can someone clear something up for me?
I keep seeing the news stating that the one gunman was the ONLY gunman. But as I was watching it unfold live on TV, everyone (including Dallas PD) kept saying that there were officially two snipers up top and at least two people on the ground at different points and it was a heavily calculated group effort. But now it's just the one guy all of a sudden? Are they covering something up? Is the media scapegoating this dude because the other three got away? Or did I miss a piece of news that decided that the one shooter was able to be like 3 different places at once?
I'm genuinely confused by this.
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Seems the NRA actually already made a statement that is totally reasonable and fits their pattern of prior statements (they always wait and are careful to get all facts). I get that a lot of their members want to preemptively come out with support for someone who seems to have been entirely legal with their CCW.
As the nation's largest and oldest civil rights organization, the NRA proudly supports the right of law-abiding Americans to carry firearms for defense of themselves and others regardless of race, religion or sexual orientation.
The reports from Minnesota are troubling and must be thoroughly investigated. In the meantime, it is important for the NRA not to comment while the investigation is ongoing.
Rest assured, the NRA will have more to say once all the facts are known.
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I was watching it live, too, and I think at the time they couldn't believe that one guy could do that much. But they talked to the guy, he insisted he was acting alone, he was heavily armed with weapons and magazines that would have made it possible for one shooter with his military training and two Tours to do all that damage.
edit: I guess there are three other suspects in police custody but no further information has been released about them pending investigation as to whether or not they were actually involved.
Last edited by allegro; 07-10-2016 at 12:57 PM.
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I thought this was an excellent read.
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Right, of course, which is why I already mentioned that there are those within the gun community who will speak out in defense of these guys, particularly among certain libertarian types. But I would argue that these voices are the exceptions, not the norm. I did think it was interesting to read the NRA statement yesterday. It struck me as fairly hesitant in some ways, but I suppose it's something at least.
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I'm starting to see the true reality of what it's like in the USA....
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Wow, yes, VERY good article, a MUST READ.
I think it is similar to this, also very good: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...m_source=atlfb
Former police chief Grady:
I sometimes get really disillusioned when people use the word ‘perception.’ If in fact something exists, if it’s real, and someone believes it to be real because they see all the indicators that it is in fact real then that’s not a perception, it’s reality … It hurts my heart to know that my son could walk out the door and not come back because he’s been shot by a police officer and the police officer shot him to death because he was scared. There are cops that will tell you I’m not scared of blacks, but I told you about the symbolic assailant. All of our lives it’s drummed into us subliminally that you need to fear people of color. It’s not an illusion, it’s real … If you recognize that this is built in--because that’s the nature of institutional racism--and that we react unconsciously to things that we have heard all of our lives.
Last edited by allegro; 07-09-2016 at 10:32 PM.
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Do you think this is isolated in the USA? Because it's not. We have a problem with institutional racism in Canada, too.
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It's not just a race war, it's a CLASS war.
I've been there MANY times myself and I was just lucky I happened to be white.
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Wow. That's really really sad.
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last night I had insomnia, so I ended up watching several streams of the protest in Minnesota. On one of the streams, the broadcaster picks up something on the ground. It turns out to be a pamphlet for a socialist party. I almost choked on my drink when that happened.
here's a link to the actual pamphlet in PDF form online.
http://revcom.us/i/439/proclamation-flier-en.pdf
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Yeah, well, a lot of minorities have always turned to Socialism (as did the Black Panthers) because Capitalism has traditionally used minorities to bolster the people at the top. This is not a big surprise.
"We believe our fight is a class struggle, not a race struggle" - Bobby Seale, co-founder Black Panther Party
Last edited by allegro; 07-10-2016 at 01:09 PM.
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Here is a really interesting article about Dallas (that @elevenism might like).
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Three reporters were arrested Saturday night along with the protestors in Baton Rouge.
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Can animated gifs go on tombstones yet? Cause that guy needs this:
I was nobody. Nothing.
a lot of it is bullshit though.
For one thing, dallas goddamn sure isn't safe. it's safER. But it was the UNsafest city in the country for a while, until the police dpt claimed that they didn't know that they could report like crime SPREES as single incidents. That was the SUPPOSED reason. Even now, in 2014, it was number 10 in the country as far as murders go. Here's a recent article that places it at number 2 on a list of surprisingly unsafe cities. Don't trust these dallas city hall fuckers with their fuzzy statistics.
And jesus, it is TOO segregated. Like, TERRIBLY segregated.
Sigh.
This false image they are trying to perpetrate kinda makes me GLAD i left.
Here, see the writings of this guy Jim Schutze , my favorite hippy commie pinko leftist sixty something year old dallas writer.
also see this.
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You know that big pretty white bridge?
That's the tale of 2 cities in dallas. Once you cross that bridge going south, everyone is black.
As for both of these issues, well, there is a lot of spin going on.
Last edited by elevenism; 07-11-2016 at 06:04 PM.
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Did anyone else get really pissed off when BLM hijacked the Toronto Gay Pride parade. They started fighting Gay people and demanding their cause was more worthy. Anyone who disgreed was shut down.
can you not see the problem here...
49 people were murdered in an Orlando gay bar a few weeks ago.
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Fighting? Peacefully protesting.
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Oh my god such denialistic bullshit...peacefully protesting, they brutally hijacked the parade, and demanded no Gay police officers be involved.
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Get your facts straight and stop listening to racist media.
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As a gay man fuck you....your so narrow minded. Simply Questioning BLM tactics means im racist...fuck you
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Care to share a source to back up this claim?
Otherwise, how are we to know that you are not making it up?
What in the actual fuck is wrong with you?
Jesus Christ, if anyone is narrow minded it is you.
Just because he has a differing opinion and calls to question your statement, a statement with no factual evidence supported by you, makes him closed minded?
Never mind the fact that his sexual orientation has no bearing on his opinion.
Last edited by ziltoid; 07-11-2016 at 10:24 PM.
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You do know that Opal Tometi, one of the founders of BLM, is gay, right?
Which group has a higher statistic of being harassed and abused by police? Gay white men or queer POC?
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The Gay Pride Parade is the Gay Pride Parade. BLM has no business hijacking a TORONTO parade anyways. WRONG country.
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Im pissed off that they hijacked the Gay parade..acting as if we can just be sidelined...and silenced....there are many countries where the death penalty is still in place for us gays.
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Jesus christ, the irony.
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BLM should start their own parade instead of hijacking other groups' parades.
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