Drugs! Thread!

[halloween]

formerly known as DO YOU PARTY? if i remember correctly...it all feels like a far distant memory...


What's your story, bro?

(I just tried shrooms for the first time today. I didn't take very much, so I didn't have too crazy of a "trip".
And now to complete my holiday day, with some weed!)

[perch]

I'm sober as fuck. I'm not even drunk :/ But that's about to change tomorrow..

[zombielynx21]

The comics/games shop I frequent to play Magic had a customer appreciation night last weekend with a comedian performing and snacks and shit. The wife of one of the owners, my friend, and I got preeeeeety stoned before the show. Good times.

[johnbron]

Discovered I still had a very small amount of pot in a six month old zip lock bag in a drawer. Hello "All music is good and JESUS that album just sounded better than I've ever heard it before!!" mode.

[Fixer808]

Discovered I still had a very small amount of pot in a six month old zip lock bag in a drawer. Hello "All music is good and JESUS that album just sounded better than I've ever heard it before!!" mode.
"It's like... it's like they KNEW what I would love, even though they wrote it in 1968! I wasn't even BORN yet, man!"

[botley]

It's all about the quality of company. I don't really ever get high or drunk unless I'm with amazing persons.

[dominik]

Alc&pot is fine, but I don't get it why you would want to take other drugs. In the gay scene you always see guys taking drugs on parties, but the amount of people that do it is what makes me wonder.. can't they get over the fact that they like it in the butt?

[sublimaze]

Last time I got drunk and then smoked, I didn't get high at all. Waste of good weed.


Alc&pot is fine, but I don't get it why you would want to take other drugs. In the gay scene you always see guys taking drugs on parties, but the amount of people that do it is what makes me wonder.. can't they get over the fact that they like it in the butt?

[zombielynx21]

It's all about the quality of company. I don't really ever get high or drunk unless I'm with amazing persons.

Pretty much this. I've noticed I've been smoking more, but it's always with a group of people I've grown incredibly close to. And I'm generally someone who prefers the people over the experience itself anyway, but I find this really true.

[Clownboat]

Legally prescribed narcotics for pain. Certainly can't complain about the euphoria.

edit: Yup, I sure love hydrocodone. I'll miss it when I finally pass this kidney stone.

[isak]

Alc&pot is fine, but I don't get it why you would want to take other drugs. In the gay scene you always see guys taking drugs on parties, but the amount of people that do it is what makes me wonder.. can't they get over the fact that they like it in the butt?
QFT. I generally hate the whole gay scene anyway and avoid it like the plague, but this is one big reason why I'd rather get beat up in a normal bar for being gay, then socialise with a bunch of rabid horny gays on hard drugs in a gay one. On another note, I've been smoking a lot of weed lately, but I generally don't enjoy joints, because I don't smoke tobacco regularly so it gets a bit much. I've been using a pipe, but I was wondering if anyone can recommend anything else I could smoke it with in a joint?

[halloween]

It's all about the quality of company. I don't really ever get high or drunk unless I'm with amazing persons.

I've been realizing this myself, that i only like to smoke with certain people. My dealer/friend is one of them! Last time we hung out, he put on some beach boys and he told me all about them, so much fun! And i only drink (to the point of feeling intoxicated) with close friends as well, because i feel more comfortable.

[reznovka]

Beer and some vodka...that´s it...ah and cigs.
Pot and all the other stuff made me feel bad...so I stopped smoking it...I´m not interested in chemical drugs like Meth and cocaine so I just have to drink ;)

[Fixer808]

Babysat some strangers last Saturday at a club. They were rollin' way to hard, helped 'em keep cool until their sober friend got them a cab. Keep your doses low, folks!

[allegro]

Whoa! Wtf. Sounds like another case of too much drug. How long did this last?

[allegro]

I'm curious as to WHAT did that for such a short time.

LSD makes you high for, like, eight HOURS.

[allegro]

Psychological breakdown! That's exactly what I was thinking!!

[Goldfoot]

I started smoking weed like 11 years ago and have done so on and off since then. In the last few years I tried other things, though, like mushrooms and LSD. I've eaten shrooms 4 times, but they only took hold twice. I just tried LSD for the first time this past summer, but it was incredible. I only did one tab since I didn't have any experience with it. I definitely prefer it to shrooms. There is a controllable, lucid aspect to LSD that just isn't there with shrooms. At least not for me. The first time I ate shrooms and they actually affected me, I pretty much couldn't do anything. I was just there, but the music was amazing. Maybe since I've done it and I know how to handle it, my friend will finally agree to do LSD with me.

[TCMD]

ive tried almost all of them minus heroin and crack.

15 years later, herb all day and some others. ive been lucky to have only been gettin sour d for the past year now.

many many mushrooms as well. learned how to grow them recently and have been enjoying since. grown/tried 5 strains so far and my favorites so far are golden teachers.

[allegro]

Golden Teacher? I'm afraid if I grew and ate my own mushrooms I'd be in a golden urn.

[Harry Seaward]

I know, it's really strange! It could have been a low dose of LSD and whenever he did the nitrous it amplified the effects. A friend of mine did LSD and he said that whenever he did nitrous on it he'd get really intense and vivid hallucinations for a little bit afterwards.

Or it might have just been the nitrous messing with his head and him having some sort of psychological breakdown type of thing because of it. Sadly we won't ever know for sure...

Don't let that person so any more drugs. Something like that isn't strictly from the drugs, he has some sort of psychological issues.

[allegro]

That's what we said!! Totally!

[iamanexit]

Weed is alright, and I'll smoke it now and then if the mood is chill and everyone else is (I feel weird doing it alone. I just jam out to loud music and eat myself into a coma). Alcohol is something I have come to like a little too much. I don't really drink to be drunk anymore, I just drink because I enjoy most beer/booze I've had, and end up getting drunk (which is probably a bad thing, and something I need to evaluate... but, I'm 24, so I figure, if there's any time to be a sloppy lush, it's now, yeah?).

My favorite drug, however, is MDMA. I don't buy it very often, and when I do, it's usually for a dance party, or as a party favor for a large group. (We have a sexy club here called The Inferno that's very dark/creepy/gothy and there's a large underlying BDSM theme and a *GREAT* place to go to on drugs.

A couple of times we've done ecstasy in pill-form, which I don't care as much for, because I don't really have any desire to do anything laced with cocaine, heroin, whatever. Typically we get it from people who we believe to be refutable enough to give us good stuff. There was only one time that we all took something, and I had a different pill than the rest of the group had, and I wound up having a dreadful Fear and Loathing type night that lasted well into the next day. That's a story in and of itself, though...

Other than that, I have done acid once, and it was ok, I guess. I was in weird company, and it turned into a really weird night.

[Highly Psychological]

Good old Ecstasy was my*favorite, will never forget the first time i tried it, i think its the only drug that had a positive effect on my personality.*
Before i took it i was all tense and moody, and i think it*definitely*made me come out of myself a lot more. I just*didn't*know those types of feelings were capable of existing, its the only drug other than weed which i could see being*legalized*if there were strict rules and it was safe. Its*relatively*safe. *the high was wonderful. However stopped taking it around 2002 did a few too many and the comedowns were getting pretty horrific. and this was when the quality of it went bad. It was mixed with all kinds of crap specifically strong amphetemines which i never liked as they used to make me feel like the walls were closing in.*

But yeah crap music sounds amazing on it, good music specifically electronic dance music makes you feel like jesus. The constant euphoric build up, everyone is beautiful.*

I would never in a million years go near LSD. It scared the shit out of me, the amount of stories i have heard about people having bad trips, and never being the same and seeing all kinds of stuff and hearing voices chilled me to the core. I didnt like feeling too out of control on drugs. And when i think of LSD i just think of Syd Barrett.

[RocketScience]

I'm so fuckkkkking seriously grass-lifted right now. Firrealz I'm currently living at a speed of 2 frames/second. If anyone's up for some blunted philosophizing(???), I'm your host!

huzzzaaaahhh!!!

[halloween]

Well then. There we go! Blunted philosophizing.

[RocketScience]

Well then. There we go! Blunted philosophizing.

Man I just saw Anthony Bourdain's Ozark episode of No reservations. Man is that place beautiful. The constant sensation of autumn, the wildlife, the very primitive and down to earth way of life, harsh people. It's such a lovely mixture of strong identities. Love it.

[lady weetly]

I was pretty stoned for Dexter and was still flipping out and cracking up. I still feel pretty awesome. The new facebook feature is crazy.

[halloween]

it's really convenient that i smoke weed sometimes, because i'm a slight hypochondriac so whenever i start thinking i have cancer, i think "well, at least I already have medication." heh.

[ibanez33]

Keep your doses low, folks!
THIS! I was rolling at a party on Friday, but I seemed to be the only person there capable of controlling their dosage. I still got wasted beyond all reason, but I put it all into 8 parachutes that I stretched out over 4 hours (hard an alarm on my phone to tell me when it was OK for another one) instead of my whole nights supply in 2 or 3 rails like a couple of other guys.

[Amaro]

How can you tell when someone is on a meth diet?

[Fixer808]

How can you tell when someone is on a meth diet?
http://www.bluebluegrass.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/methhead.png
When they go from looking relatively normal to looking like the love-child of Iggy Pop and Courtney Love.

[Amaro]

Thank you. Thank you for that. That is exactly what I needed to hear.

[allegro]

How can you tell when someone is on a meth diet?
EXHIBIT A
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/pztt3N2KCfbjLfImA0OcQA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7aD0zNzU7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/News/ETOnline/640_macaulay_culkin_gaunt_inf.jpg

[Highly Psychological]

He looks like he has just been liberated from a concentration camp.

[botley]

A few weeks ago I had a fairly mind-altering experience (not intentionally, mind you; what I did was fail to sleep all weekend long and then accidentally ingest some hashish brownies that my roommates didn't properly label). It could've been the suggestive influence from listening to all of Tool's Ænima immediately prior, but I felt some very strong, real sensations: those of my third eye being re-opened, of my thoughts having material form, of my inner bodily workings being interconnected with the energy they used. It prompted a feeling of profound inner peace and more than a few insightful moments of clarity and wisdom. I believe this is cause for further investigation.

[Kid Charlemagne]

Got very drunk at a bar last night and some dude gave me some hash. I haven't smoked in about two months, but it felt good to let off some steam and listen to "Too Close" by Next.

[Louie_Cypher]

Be very careful as you explore, had an associate that knew this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PiHKAL did DOM and a few others, know who and what you're are getting. The want you to expand your mind stuff is gone, now it is about the money, unless you know the person as a friend. Never buy off the street if you don't know anything about the person, this includes weed. Be safe things can crawl over your head in an instant, make it special and almost religious, not an everyday thing.
Just saying
-Louie

[ibanez33]

EXHIBIT A
http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/pztt3N2KCfbjLfImA0OcQA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7aD0zNzU7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/News/ETOnline/640_macaulay_culkin_gaunt_inf.jpg

5 years from now he's going to look like what Willem Dafoe will look like in 20 years.

[halloween]

I tried acid for the first time, with two other friends- one also taking it for the first time, and the other being the wise knowledgeable one, who "guided" us, by choosing appropriate music and answering all my questions about what I was experiencing. I didn't have too crazy of a trip though because they were very weak and pretty small tabs, so I took three before I started feeling anything really. We ended the night with David Lynch music (from Twin Peaks, Fire Walk With Me, and Blue Velvet) which was quite an experience, especially since there were a couple of reddish curtains in the room).

At one point my words came out jumbled and I concluded that "this is what it must be like to speak in cursive."

[Louie_Cypher]

Old joke but used to give the person a choice, watch Eraserhead on acid or take a bong hit of blotter

[halloween]

I was helping out at school with a photo shoot, and even with my eyes closed, the strobe lights cut right through my head and triggered a migraine. I got home and decided between Imitrex or Cannabis. I chose to smoke first and sure enough that killed the budding migraine much more efficiently than Imitrex would. Woot! Now i can go out and enjoy the beautiful warm night!

[allegro]

Seriously!? Imitrex makes me feel TERRIBLE. I take it, anyway, because feeling like shit from Imitrex is better than a migraine. I wish we had prescription pot, here!

[halloween]

Yeah I'm not a HUGE fan of imitrex either...and i really wish my pot was also prescription, until then though I'll keep buying illegally, heh.

[ibanez33]

Anybody have any good (or bad) experiences lately? I haven't 'partied' in almost 2 months, whole down seems to be holding nothing but an abundance of shit.

[Soma]

This last weekend at Wakarusa was crazy! Smoked an amount of hash and medical bud that seemed endless. I consumed 5 hits of acid on the second day but they were either bunk or weak. i experienced a mild wavey-feeling, but hash and a little bit of molly did me a lot better. on the third day I tried DMT before my second volunteer shift... and it was absolutely beautiful. i proceeded to trip DMT again after working, as well as consume 3 grams of shrooms before seeing Primus. Twas remarkable! I found my favorite drug and my favorite live band on the same day. :)

[Fixer808]

This last weekend at Wakarusa was crazy! Smoked an amount of hash and medical bud that seemed endless. I consumed 5 hits of acid on the second day but they were either bunk or weak. i experienced a mild wavey-feeling, but hash and a little bit of molly did me a lot better. on the third day I tried DMT before my second volunteer shift... and it was absolutely beautiful. i proceeded to trip DMT again after working, as well as consume 3 grams of shrooms before seeing Primus. Twas remarkable! I found my favorite drug and my favorite live band on the same day. :)
The first thirty seconds of this are relevent:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7geQYc_-ruc&feature=related

[Goldfoot]

I may have acquired a number of small pieces of paper and am trying to plan a weekend with my friend. I've got a total of 8 now, but I'm unsure if 2 of them are still good. I've had them for about a year and wasn't aware until recently that heat could cause degradation. I'm not sure how much they may have lost in terms of quality, but I've got enough that it'll be fine. Looking forward to it.

[Sutekh]

Love a smoke but this explains why I have seriously cut down since moving back to London http://optionalexclusion.tumblr.com/post/13734409721/1-8-oz-3-5g

Lived out by glastonbury for years, So I guess I'm spoiled! It never used to be so bad in LDN though, absolutely shameless deals. Binned off about a dozen jokers. Area is a bit swish so most are too scared to deliver. I do favour ritual over habitual use though, so I'm thinking of only doing it when I'm in the south west (does have an appropriately hobbiton vibe down there)

[Pillfred]

I remember a day similar to the tale above shortly after high school, dude suddenly got all upity when i mentioned it looked light. It's been years since than but it appears to be the same old shit. Kinda sad when one thinks of all dope flowing around any more. 50 became 60 and the weed got worse....in this day and age...i tell ya.

[Sutekh]

The best period was about 12 years ago when they downgraded it to class C (anything less than an oz, they just confiscate it and sent you on your way, no caution/record of incident), and decriminalised it more or less totally in parts of Brixton (This actually happened, it sounds unbelievable now). Massive explosion, was a real buyer's market for a few years

[PooPooMeowChow]

http://www.hossglass.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/dbp_0229_m1.jpg
Got this the other day. It's my new best friend.:D:D:D:D

You guys got any glass?

[johnbron]

Well I shouldn't let these doughnuts go to waste, should I?

[Fixer808]

It'd be a shameful waste. I'm not on drugs at them moment, but I AM drunk and considering ordering a reallly big pizza.

[aggroculture]

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/262233_427466167311334_129417896_n.jpg

[Fixer808]

Smoked a bowl with a friend and watched the pilot for American Horror Story, and an episode of Being Human!

[halloween]

RECREATIONAL use of marijiuana is now legal in colorado! Wow =]

[Fixer808]

And Washington State, yeah?

[themethatyouknow]

RECREATIONAL use of marijiuana is now legal in colorado! Wow =]

Even though LITERALLY everyone in Colorado who ever wanted to smoke, already smokes, It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

[trust in dust]

Alc&pot is fine, but I don't get it why you would want to take other drugs.

drugs are awesome

[trust in dust]

now here is a thread i can get behind! my people! LSD! Shrooms! Love! Weed! Cocaine!

[sa_nick]

Been having my first taste of oxies recently. Been prescribed both regular oxycodone and the slow release ocycontin. Doctor's arent giving me enough though, only 10mg pills. I've gotten a couple of random highs from them, but for the most part they barely take away the pain. I would pop a bunch at once but I kinda need them to not become crippled. Just today I got put onto a Buprenorphine patch which might be even less fun. At least if it works I'll have 30 or so spare oxies.

[Baphomette]

Been having my first taste of oxies recently. Been prescribed both regular oxycodone and the slow release ocycontin. Doctor's arent giving me enough though, only 10mg pills. I've gotten a couple of random highs from them, but for the most part they barely take away the pain. I would pop a bunch at once but I kinda need them to not become crippled. Just today I got put onto a Buprenorphine patch which might be even less fun. At least if it works I'll have 30 or so spare oxies. A Buprenorphine patch? For pain? First time I've heard of that. Usually, Buprenorphine is used to treat opiate addiction but I guess it would work as a pain med if the dose was high enough.
To get a more immediate/stronger high from your pills (especially the slow release oxycontin), chew them. I usually chase pills back with a strong drink but I'm not encouraging anyone to do the same. *cough*

[sa_nick]

A Buprenorphine patch? For pain? First time I've heard of that. Usually, Buprenorphine is used to treat opiate addiction but I guess it would work as a pain med if the dose was high enough.
To get a more immediate/stronger high from your pills (especially the slow release oxycontin), chew them. I usually chase pills back with a strong drink but I'm not encouraging anyone to do the same. *cough*

Yeah, I sometimes get really bad pain in the middle of the night. That's when I have the slow release ones on standby, ready to be chewed. Took 20mg instant and 30mg slow release then went to a friends, had a few shots and a couple bongs and man i was fuuuucked up in an awesome way. Usually I'll go through 6 or so bongs in a few hours but all i needed last night was the two.. Good times.

[johnbron]

I want to post A Perfect Circle lyrics all night. Maynard was always better at lyrics than Trent was.

[sa_nick]

Pregabalin + Valium + Fentanyl + Oxycodone + a tenth of the weed i usually need = Awesome.

[imail724]

What is the legal age to smoke pot in Colorado now that it is legal? 18? 21?

[jessamineny]

What is the legal age to smoke pot in Colorado now that it is legal? 18? 21?

It's age 21, but it's not legal yet.

It will only become legal when the governor formally signs the amendment into law, which could be as late as Jan. 5. County clerks have until the end of today to send in vote tallies, and the Sec. of State has until Dec. 6 to certify. Then the governor has up to 30 days to sign.

Or so my handy Google search of the Internet tells me. ;)

[Camille]

I began in my teens smoking weed, dropping E's, acid, coke, speed, downers all that sort of shit. I lived in a small town with a big drug culture, it was part of life back then. We were doing this stuff on a daily basis, it was as normal as having a cup of tea.
I'm glad I got out. Still have a Guinness and a couple of spliffs every now and and again though.

[onthewall2983]

http://youtu.be/ujpO0yqsMaY

[ibanez33]

Can we talk mushrooms for a minute?

I've done them twice, and both times I was already under the influence of other substances. First time I was stoned and a bit drunk, it was pretty good. Second time I was drunk and on MDMA, it made me sick. I don't know how much I took either time, it wasn't much though, maybe 1.5-2 grams. I'm planning on taking them completely sober soon with a few friends who want to try it out, how much should we each take for a good effect? *edit* Also, I've only eaten them on their own before. Would the effects be any different if we ate them with food or made tea?

[Fixer808]

I've never done mushrooms, but I would assume that making them into a tea would dillute the active compounds somewhat.

[baudolino]

pcylocibin is water soluble and heat resinsant, hence making a tea out of it will work. but I figure it might not taste good, bitter somewhat. swallowing as a whole appears to be the most comfortable way.

[Fixer808]

Aaaaaaaah....... "marihuana".

[ibanez33]

Totally forgot to update after that shroom post. It was pretty good, Christmas lights were badass.

[becoming]

-White Russian

Hands down #1 in my book.

That is all.

[Amaro]

Smoked marihuana for the very first time last Friday and Saturday. It was good...effective...interesting...Lavender, apparently (supposedly some of the good stuff!). Bowl, and bong. One bong hit I got a burned sensation down my throat/upper chest...eck...so my friend put ice cubes in it for the next day for me. No burn. Cool...so I played drums and guitar for hours and recorded it. Very interesting.

I don't know why but still I feel this mellow barrier in my head...like seriously... But I love it. I don't know if it's deeply mental, or what...what the fuck... I simply talk to people more openly, I look them in the eyes...say pretty much what's on my mind...and it all comes across how I intend. (Normally I overthink like a mohegfucker) Monday through this day, just ins and outs of significant mood changes...really, all for the better. I almost completely tolerate work now (fingers crossed), mentally, my head isn't so filled with angst to get out of the building, and various negativity. I'm simply focused more, but aware that something's different. By what I hear about acid, you'd think I took that, or something.

In the last hour at work today there was hustle and bustle I got to experience (I'm new) and I was looking at people in action and it was as though it was almost in slow motion. In a weird way. Today is Thursday...I last smoked *Sunday* afternoon. Wtfs okay! I operate fine at work, even having learned something brand new on Tuesday, nobody questions the look on my face or anything, but I feel I have my doubts for myself. It's the strangest thing. My sense of time is whoaaaa hard to tell.

After that I talked to my manager about requesting time off and it was for almost 15 minutes though it felt like 40 minutes... This HAPPENS often now.

Then I left the building and felt kinda dazed/peaceful, sat in my car for 30 minutes, trying to find my center (not trying too hard)...couldn't...so just enjoyed the spring air coming into my car with Deerhunter.

Is everyone's effects that different? After almost a week? I just wasn't expecting this. But I'm pretty sure I appreciate it all.

Of course, I nagged my friend about the legitimacy of the bud...he continually says there was nothing else in it. I'd remember if there was a chemical smell... I just recall the smell being quite stinky. I go in and out of kinda worrying about it... But I dunno. I'm a total noob. Is my ego just feeling way suppressed all of the sudden? lol Is this what I've been missing from life? Lol

[Fixer808]

That's never happened to me. I've woken up the next day still feeling muzzy, but never for longer than a day... And I don't know what it could have been sprayed/mixed with that would cause such a prolonged effect! Weird...

I remember one time having a couple hits of some serious coma-weed... STRONG shit. Friends and I were headed to an all-you-can-eat sushi place, I destroyed their stock of beef teriyaki.

[Conan The Barbarian]

You are OK. Stop being so paranoid. Its just bud. Hell I get some good shit, and some of my pals who really don't smoke swear up and down that I give them laced bud when it is just good bud.

Finally had the acid trip I was expecting after all these years. Visuals galore. Quad dipped stamps. Took two. Looking forward to watching evil dead on another two.

[aggroculture]

Enjoy the ride...

[Jinsai]

Looking forward to watching evil dead on another two.

This sounds like a terrible plan...

[allegro]

re Magrão - some people have profound drug experiences and the residual isn't from the drug, itself, but the kind of "awakening" or increased awareness that people acquire after this/these profound experience(s). It's like when you have a really profound mind-blowing dream and it stays in your memory for a long time.

This happened to me on Mescaline; I still credit my relatively-few Mescaline experiences for who I am, today. Tim Leary (and Steve Jobs) thought the same way about LSD. If you have a mind-blowing experience on weed, it's probably not the weed, itself, but the way that the weed enabled you to bring down some barriers, think differently, open your mind, etc. If that all sticks with you, that's you being open to a profound experience.

[Fixer808]

This sounds like a terrible plan...
Unless it's the original...
Other fun movies to consider:
- 2001
- First Blood (just put this on 20min ago...)
- 300
- Blade
- Shaft (Samuel L Jackson version)


It's like when you have a really profound mind-blowing dream and it stays in your memory for a long time.
This is true, I didn't think past the physiological effects... I still recall a vivid dream from childhood that resonates with me.

[ibanez33]

I remember one time having a couple hits of some serious coma-weed... STRONG shit.

Couple hits of the BC Hydro, eh? But seriously, one major gripe I have with the weed around here is it always just put me on my ass, I could never find any of the good "hey let's get stoned and go for a hike" smoke, I always just parked myself in front of the tv and stared at a movie. Gave it up almost a year ago when I realized I wasn't enjoying it anymore.

[Fixer808]

Exactly... But it's a good relaxation thing sometimes, despite the high power.
Well, barring paranoia, which I'm kinda having right now...

[thefragile_jake]

I've been wanting to do shrooms again sometime, the last time I did them was in 2011 and it was one of the craziest experiences of my life. The first time I felt like I had died and my soul was just walking around at one point...but the second time, I was in my room and had an out of body moment listening to Emeralds "Does It Look Like I'm Here?"

[becoming]

Unless it's the original...
Other fun movies to consider:
- 2001
- First Blood (just put this on 20min ago...)
- 300
- Blade
- Shaft (Samuel L Jackson version)



Also Watch:

-Sin City
-The Cell
-Lost Highway
-U Turn
-Altered States
-Natural Born Killers

And of course all the other known trip flicks.

[Conan The Barbarian]

The big lebowski is also a fav of mine on cid.

[Amaro]

You are OK. Stop being so paranoid. Its just bud. Hell I get some good shit, and some of my pals who really don't smoke swear up and down that I give them laced bud when it is just good bud.

Just so it's clear...I'm not as paranoid about the aftermath as it may seem...it's just that it was the very first time and I'm feeling all kinds of new feelings, even after days, so I thought it'd be smart to check in proper. Today's a different day from yesterday overall, so far...I suppose more "normal", but still I haven't felt quite like I did before the weekend activity.

Does anyone have experience with "Lavender"?

[aggroculture]

I wouldn't worry about it...you just smoked pot for the first time. Nothing will ever be the same again.

[Jinsai]

Does anyone have experience with "Lavender"?

You won't get any satisfying answers from this. There's probably a thousand different strains called "trainwreck"
Everything's going to be fine.

[becoming]

Nothing will ever be the same again.

This.

Now drop some cid and come tell us how you feel after that. :)

[Jinsai]

The big lebowski is also a fav of mine on cid.

We need some true mind fuckery in the mix. If you're going to make a movie night out of it, I'd recommend buying a few really intricate jigsaw puzzles, mixing them up, pouring them out on the ground in front of the tv, and then watching a marathon of Logan's Run -> Liquid Sky -> a collection of Stan Brakhage shorts. You'll be singing this song for days/years

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv0PYG1g_iY

[Fixer808]

Frankly, throw in as much early 70's sci fi as possible. Fully agree with Logan's Run, but best chase it with Zardoz, The Omega Man, Planet of the Apes, Rollerball, Death Race 2000, and if you can find it, the non-Director's Cut of THX 1138. THAT will bend some brain-stems.

[jessamineny]

Movies? Go outside!

[Jinsai]

Movies? Go outside!

That's inevitable. You can't take 12 hours of 70s sci fi without a break outside... with or without hallucinogenics.

[Highly Psychological]

Yeah but sometimes it goes the other way where you look in the mirror and those eyes dont belong to you, and someone is running out of the walls after you with a machete. And the cracks in the door need to be filled up with toilet paper so the killer who is definetly coming wont see. And draw the curtains in case of the telescopes from neighbors. And the room is getting smaller by the second.

[allegro]

^^ Jesus, if anything like that had ever happened to me on Mescaline or acid, I'd never do it again! (Which wasn't the case because I did it a lot.) You bring your own baggage on your trip.


Any TV-watching, for me, clearly falls into the "I'm too lazy to get off the couch because I smoked pot" trip. The remote control was invented for pot heads. In the 70s, we didn't have remote controls and sometimes we'd watch some shit like the Farm Report because none of us felt like getting up to change the channel. We had this thing called a "power hitter," which was basically a plastic bottle that a joint fit into so you could shotgun each other or yourself but you could also throw the thing across the room to pass the joint, thereby eliminating the need to stand up. Oh, and we had those roach clips that extended, like, a foot.



I wouldn't worry about it...you just smoked pot for the first time. Nothing will ever be the same again.
What he said.

[Conan The Barbarian]

Movies? Go outside!

I do go out. I'm not a hermit on this drug.

[aggroculture]

zardoz

Zardoz speaks to you...the gun is good...the penis is evil.

[halloween]

Smoked marihuana for the very first time last Friday and Saturday. It was good...effective...interesting...Lavender, apparently (supposedly some of the good stuff!). Bowl, and bong. One bong hit I got a burned sensation down my throat/upper chest...eck...so my friend put ice cubes in it for the next day for me. No burn. Cool...so I played drums and guitar for hours and recorded it. Very interesting.

I don't know why but still I feel this mellow barrier in my head...like seriously... But I love it. I don't know if it's deeply mental, or what...what the fuck... I simply talk to people more openly, I look them in the eyes...say pretty much what's on my mind...and it all comes across how I intend. (Normally I overthink like a mohegfucker) Monday through this day, just ins and outs of significant mood changes...really, all for the better. I almost completely tolerate work now (fingers crossed), mentally, my head isn't so filled with angst to get out of the building, and various negativity. I'm simply focused more, but aware that something's different. By what I hear about acid, you'd think I took that, or something.

In the last hour at work today there was hustle and bustle I got to experience (I'm new) and I was looking at people in action and it was as though it was almost in slow motion. In a weird way. Today is Thursday...I last smoked *Sunday* afternoon. Wtfs okay! I operate fine at work, even having learned something brand new on Tuesday, nobody questions the look on my face or anything, but I feel I have my doubts for myself. It's the strangest thing. My sense of time is whoaaaa hard to tell.

After that I talked to my manager about requesting time off and it was for almost 15 minutes though it felt like 40 minutes... This HAPPENS often now.

Then I left the building and felt kinda dazed/peaceful, sat in my car for 30 minutes, trying to find my center (not trying too hard)...couldn't...so just enjoyed the spring air coming into my car with Deerhunter.

Is everyone's effects that different? After almost a week? I just wasn't expecting this. But I'm pretty sure I appreciate it all.

Of course, I nagged my friend about the legitimacy of the bud...he continually says there was nothing else in it. I'd remember if there was a chemical smell... I just recall the smell being quite stinky. I go in and out of kinda worrying about it... But I dunno. I'm a total noob. Is my ego just feeling way suppressed all of the sudden? lol Is this what I've been missing from life? Lol
I had anxiety and one of the ways I've worked through it is through smoking. I would smoke and I would get what you're describing, feeling just good, calm for day afterwards/ It can be a real medication for that kind of stuff, and now I haven't smoked in months and I know how to get myself feeling that calm again without it. Granted, after I started smoking I was also able to start meditating more successfully, so now I do that every so often and just in general have learned what it's like to be in the moment every moment. Marijuana definitely taught me how to be in the moment without paying attention to time passing. Some people might see this as weed having "damaged me" but i think it healed me in a way.

PEACE LOVE AND UNDERSTANDING. Ok, enough hippy shit, I'm out.

[DigitalChaos]

re @Magrão (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=74) - some people have profound drug experiences and the residual isn't from the drug, itself, but the kind of "awakening" or increased awareness that people acquire after this/these profound experience(s). It's like when you have a really profound mind-blowing dream and it stays in your memory for a long time.

This happened to me on Mescaline; I still credit my relatively-few Mescaline experiences for who I am, today. Tim Leary (and Steve Jobs) thought the same way about LSD. If you have a mind-blowing experience on weed, it's probably not the weed, itself, but the way that the weed enabled you to bring down some barriers, think differently, open your mind, etc. If that all sticks with you, that's you being open to a profound experience.

I think it also has to do with imprinting ideas that might not be so "heavy" otherwise. Steve Jobs never did tell the world what his mind blowing experience on LSD actually was. However, I strongly suspect it was this "one simple fact" mentioned in the video below. He has mentioned this idea many times as being incredibly life changing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHAJhosbWiM


It's one of those "well, no shit!" types of ideas that most people wouldn't give much thought. However, if something causes you to hold onto it and really dwell on it... it can be pretty life changing.

[elevenism]

I ate, snorted, smoked, and shot all the drugs.
Thank god i'm alive, as half my friends kinda got stuck on the heroin portion of the drug experimentation journey and wound up in boxes. And i had goddamn near (LITERALLY) drank myself to death by the time i was 25. I was having seizures from NOT drinking. It sucked. it REALLY sucked.

Now, i have a pretty decent sized morphine prescription and a medium sized xanax prescription, while the mrs. has a fairly good sized klonipin prescription, and this works for us. I did the whole bat-country, tell me about the fucking golf shoes thing in the late 90's and early 2000's. For some reason, weed just quit working for me and started making me feel BAD instead of GOOD about ten years ago. And i stopped drinking or shooting heroin!
These days, i am generally (legally) on one of the above mentioned opiates or benzos, trying to dose infrequently enough to keep from getting a physical habit. I do love some hydrocodone when i can get my hands on them, and i love the SHIT out of fentanyl (but i am by no means advocating the use of it; it'll kill you FAST if you don't have a BIG tolerance and know EXACTLY what you're doing.) Right now i am actually kicking a little bout with fent. it fucking hurts, but, you know, buy the ticket, take the ride.

[botley]

I gotta stop sharing joints before I try to do any kind of work that requires brainpower.

[Kid Charlemagne]

Saturday night was pretty cool. On my lunch hour I took my coworker home and we drank some tall boys and smoked two bowls, so for the last four hours of work, I was more relaxed than usual and was eating pastries like crazy while making my coworkers listen to Tame Impala on an endless loop. I then dropped another coworker off after work and smoked another two bowls while watching Tosh.0 and talking about work. I smoke maybe every other week now, but man, work is better when you're faded, I understand why most of my coworkers do it.

[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

Rolled out on my good lady Molly this past weekend for a festival up in New Paltz... shit, my brain was not functioning well at work I must say.

[elevenism]

i used to LOVE x, but i find that i get INSANELY depressed afterwards...for a week or two.

[dominik]

I read some very interesting articles about opium and opium dens recently, for anyone that is interested here you go:

http://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/journey-into-the-opium-underworld/
http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/features/2000/09/opium-dens-200009

[elevenism]

crazy. i've gotten hold of opium ONE time in my 33 years, and it was SO...FUCKING...WONDERFUL.
Every hit of it made you immediately feel like you were experiencing the peak effects of a handful of 10mg norcos.
With each hit, the opiate intoxication built. it was so clean and natural and tasted like flowers, and it just made me SO FUCKING HAPPY. I've looked for opium ever since with no luck.
Smoking fentanyl gel is fun but very dangerous and WAY more "chemically" if you know what i mean...it feels unnatural.
I guess the closest thing you can do is smoke tar, which is mostly raw opium...but ive never been any good at chasing the dragon, and it's kind of a waste (compared to other routes of administration.)

[Pillfred]

Not sure why it took me 34 years to put riding bike (pedal) and dropping acid on a nice day could one of the best trips i have ever had. Besides the fact that anymore acid trips are even fewer and farer between nowadays than they were prior. I used to walk all over town back home but always felt susceptible to random bouts random of intently staring random things such say a fire hydrant. However, on a my bike i was just some guy with a big cheesy grin coasting through the neighborhood. That and the bike trails along the river make for a good time.

[Amaro]

The thing about even slightly synthetic drugs...like LSD...the real thing must be hard to attain than it'd seem. Right? How can you know it's really IT if you didn't make it yourself? I wouldn't want anything but the real thing.

[allegro]

But even "natural" substances can be what we used to call (do they still say this?) "stepped on" - meaning somebody has added something not-natural (and sometimes really bad) to fake the weight. Or "laced" which is adding something bad that makes the drug seem a lot better than it really is. Like adding PCP to weed (laced) or adding baby laxative to heroin (stepped on). The purely synthetic stuff is often more "pure" than the allegedly natural stuff.

And with stuff like heroin or even psilocybin, the strengths are so different you never know what you're going to get. With drugs, you're always taking some kind of risk - which is why you should always have a REALLY GOOD relationship with your dealer.

But with LSD, the "bad trips" you hear about are 99.9% the fault of the user and not the dealer and especially not the drug. If you buy Ibuprofen at Walgreens, you're not going to worry about the synthetic Walgreen's brand being more harmful than synthetic Motrin. Because it's all synthetic, unless some asshole psycho adds some stuff like the Tylenol Killer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Tylenol_murders).

The thing that sticks in my mind is "don't eat the brown acid" from Woodstock. (http://suite101.com/article/chip-monck-the-voice-of-the-woodstock-festival-a139338) There is this legendary implication that the brown acid was hurting people. But, in fact, the brown acid wasn't very "good." Or something. The general consensus, years later, was that there were SO many people selling acid at Woodstock (the original one, not those later ones) that there were acid connoisseurs and why waste your time and money on the white zinfandel when you could go for the really good cabernet? There is also the theory that a lot of people ate way TOO MUCH acid and blamed the ensuing bad trip on the acid, itself. But, "not very good" implies more "don't drink the boxed wine, people."

That being said, while I did my share of acid (synthetic), I had some WONDERFUL experiences on mescaline (natural) and it's a damned shame that mescaline isn't really available anymore because if everybody did that we'd surely have world peace and love.

[Amaro]

Well, for one thing I'll be getting a test kit. Without a doubt. It seems like a must, unless I know the chemist.

[allegro]

Well, for one thing I'll be getting a test kit. Without a doubt. It seems like a must, unless I know the chemist.
It couldn't hurt, that's for sure.

[butter_hole]

So... is a former coke and heroin addict who does LSD considered someone that fell off the wagon?

[allegro]

"Clean" means clean.

Though it's mostly up to the person on the wagon.

edit: and really none of our business

[jessamineny]

IMO it's best not to make judgments or assumptions about another person's sobriety. It's often subjective and always highly personal.

[allegro]

yeah those are my thoughts, too

[halloween]

Ok, so I need a place to vent about about what I experienced last night...It starts with a backstory of course.

I can be shy around people, especially in crowds bigger than 5 people. I used to have a lot of anxiety, anxiety related to being around several people, ESPECIALLY if I don't know them that well or at all. I've had panic over it in the past as a teenager, but now I'm pretty much learned how to cope with it. Except that it WILL make me extremely exhausted, because it takes energy to talk to people. It takes particularly more mental energy to speak when I know more than 5 people are listening to me, it becomes public speaking in a sense. I have no fear, when sober or buzzed with alcohol, of socializing with new people!

Introduce cannabis. I smoked lightly a couple weeks ago with just two people that I felt completely relaxed around, I became more silent but I was calm, I didn't feel like I had to talk and but I did occasionally and it was fine. I was just feeling the sun, enjoying the greenery, and enjoying these two people's presence. It probably helped that one of those two people had very visible anxiety so it kind of forced me to be even more calm so that they could feel safe, you know? Anyways...last night. I was around too many people that I didn't know, some drunk, some stoned, some both, most were strangers,, half of them being extremely loud, only a few close and trusted friends. I smoked a bit more than I had been used to because they were being offered by a person I newly met and really liked, so I don't know, it was like it felt rude to reject it as it felt like a token of friendship in a way because they came to me first to share. Anyways, I hadn 't smoked for months prior a couple weeks ago so I wasn't quite used to what cannabis does to me and my psyche and last night I just completely fell into social anxiety mode. I overthought my thoughts, I couldn't focus on one conversation because all the sounds around me became overwhelming which happens even if I've just been drinking, and I think I sat around with these people completely mute for a good few hours. I thought about what I could say, I thought about what I could do, but ultimately just felt scared, afraid things would come off wrong and misinterpreted. All at the same time, I realized it was all irrational and I was stoned and so ultimately I was calm in the sense that I felt completely fine just sitting there mute, but still reacting to people and conversation simply in a non-verbal way. Body language is 70% of communication anyways, which is what I kept thinking about during the whole thing.

It was so interesting that on one hand, I was having fun just being an observer and watching the scene unfold around me but at the same time I was having all the classic anxiety diologue in my head and even wondering if people were secretly critizing me for being quiet. I kept wondering if what people said had some sort of secret sarcasm towards me even when they weren't even adressing me! I later had a bit of a cry as I was trying to sleep as a way to release energy after the weed effect wore out completely. It was triggered by the fact that I was exhausted from just the long day of physical activity prior to this social gathering but then on top of that mental exhaustion and frustration at the fact that I wasn't able to socialize the way I wanted too, by talking and getting to know some of the really cool people I was around.

I think back on it though and realize that I did in fact get to know a lot about these people because I did observe them, even if I wasn't fully aware of what they were talking about. It's just that I guess I got worried that they weren't getting to know me and were making judgements or assumptions. In reality I'm sure no one was doing that because everyone was sort of involved in their own world at that time and it was all a product of the cannabis.

Conclusion....I really LOVE cannabis as a introspective tool just as people use alcohol as a tool for being outgoing. When I'm by myself doing things like photography or just cleaning, getting high gets me really involved on a level of presence. I simply don't like using language when I'm high....unless I'm writing poetry... and well, I've learned that I need to be cautious with using it in a social situation.

[Fixer808]

I get the exact same way when I'm baked! Christmas party at friend's place, had a couple tokes of some super-strong stuff and it hit me like a sack of mugs (ton of bricks is overused...). Anyway, I was in the same head-space, and when I DID try to add to conversations I'd say something really loud and then in my head it'd be "SHIT... now they know you're high!" (as though they would actually CARE).

[Amaro]

Pretty familiar... halloween Interesting to read.

I've had some really great experiences with marihuana since I began...really great. Social outings, for sure. But creatively speaking, mostly. I've made extremely focused strides on guitar...unbelievable, listening back. That was always inside me, I knew it, I just didn't believe in me?

However, I have had a share of panic/anxiety attacks as well...and it ain't fun. One time in particular I think it was after I'd actually ingested smoke into to my stomach from a bong (fail), after already getting enough in my system from prior proper hits. I had to lie down for the rest of the night...no live jamming as planned. I lied on my side on a memory foam mattress topper and basically started to trip a little with some paintings on the wall. Feeling sick to your stomach while fairly damn high is weird to feel. In general though, for other undesirable times, I realize now the amount of bud I took on had a big part in it, mind you. But yeah... Definitely learning a thing or two. So much to do with self...I don't wanna begin.

I purchased my first glass bowl back in April (beautiful piece...did not skimp), and a Magic Flight Launch Box back in May...what a cool, great functioning tool. Fucking get that vaporizer, all of you. I'll probably get a second one someday.

[halloween]

Ah yes, I smoked out of a vaporizer for the first time and I don't know if I just didn't take strong enough hits, but it was still nice! I was stoned but it was so different and it felt lighter.

[Amaro]

Right on... Not all of the same cannabanoids get released when the plant is vaporized as they do when smoked...something along those lines to be learned. There's a graph I'll share soon laying it all down. It's arguably less potential to get trippy. But yeah, there's definitely a learning curve to the amount you take in, because a lot can be used from a traditional bowl's worth, also depending on your understanding of the vaporizer being used. I've been fairly damn high when trying solo, just going to it...watched a movie in theaters. It was pretty cray. It is a cleaner feeling high ("lighter" :0>) than from smoking (apart from the obvious), consensus seems to say. Ya definitely would wanna just vape and not smoke to get a full hang of everything...because it really pays off. You can be really cool and sly about getting your high on, too. ha ha

[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

Ah yes, I smoked out of a vaporizer for the first time and I don't know if I just didn't take strong enough hits, but it was still nice! I was stoned but it was so different and it felt lighter.

Yes! Vaporizers for me really give me more of an "In the head" high. It makes me a little more light headed and loopy, but it has been a long time since I have smoked from one. I usually smoke bowls or joints.. but I smoke the occasional blunt or two. I have been smoking pot since I was about 14 so I have seen it all for the most part, but I have been kind of proud of myself that I haven't been smoking so consistently like I have been these past few years. I was going to respond to your post the other day, but I was wayyy too drunk and out of it to try... and I did :).

But what you were saying... I in the past have felt the same way you have and that stuck with me for a long time. I know some of my friends that have done it in the past and have stopped because they didn't like that feeling of being trapped in their minds the whole time and feeling vulnerable, anxious, and conscientiously unsocialiable. For me, I used to think when everyone looked at me as I entered a room that they were thinking bad of me or judging me, meanwhile I came to realize down the road that that is just a natural reaction to look at someone or the direction when someone enters the room lol. I used to be just like you when I first started smoking weed... but as I went along down the road and got a little more wise.. I changed a lot and I have come to the point where I can be so personable to a stranger when I am high and connect with them on a completely indifferent level which is a good thing. Now of course, everyone adapts and changes because we are all different to these types of situations.. but for me I just love the feeling when I am high and it just really levels me out sometimes. If I was at a party 6 years ago? I would be mute just like you were... but as a grew and smoked more... it formed into this whole new socialized monster and now I find myself talking to anyone that I don't know if I am at a party or something to that nature.

Everyone finds their niche when smoking weed, and some find a way to either go on with it or not smoke at all. But there have been many times where people I don't know ask me if I was ok because I was so quiet.. but in a friendly way and I would always give one word answers and try not to be awkward lol. The more you smoke, the more you know how much you should and if you are in the mood matters as well.

BUT, on vaporizers again.. I find it when you give it a decent hit and do not see much smoke come out after you are done hitting it gave me the best high... but like I said, it goes right to my head and I feel like i'm floating at some points :D

And Magro.. did you get a case or pouch for it??

[Pillfred]

My buddy just showed me this http://vaporitevapes.com/product_grindrite.html pretty neat though not sure if i trust the smell proof-ness of it. Also on the topic of vaporizers i ran into this dude at teh bar the other night that had a small portable one that kinda looked like a highlighter seemed like a pretty neat idea.

[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

My buddy just showed me this http://vaporitevapes.com/product_grindrite.html pretty neat though not sure if i trust the smell proof-ness of it. Also on the topic of vaporizers i ran into this dude at teh bar the other night that had a small portable one that kinda looked like a highlighter seemed like a pretty neat idea.

I believe those are vapor pens.. (many different names). My buddy just started using one for hash oil and after about 2 hits I was done for hours.

[halloween]

Yes! Vaporizers for me really give me more of an "In the head" high. It makes me a little more light headed and loopy, but it has been a long time since I have smoked from one. I usually smoke bowls or joints.. but I smoke the occasional blunt or two. I have been smoking pot since I was about 14 so I have seen it all for the most part, but I have been kind of proud of myself that I haven't been smoking so consistently like I have been these past few years. I was going to respond to your post the other day, but I was wayyy too drunk and out of it to try... and I did :).

But what you were saying... I in the past have felt the same way you have and that stuck with me for a long time. I know some of my friends that have done it in the past and have stopped because they didn't like that feeling of being trapped in their minds the whole time and feeling vulnerable, anxious, and conscientiously unsocialiable. For me, I used to think when everyone looked at me as I entered a room that they were thinking bad of me or judging me, meanwhile I came to realize down the road that that is just a natural reaction to look at someone or the direction when someone enters the room lol. I used to be just like you when I first started smoking weed... but as I went along down the road and got a little more wise.. I changed a lot and I have come to the point where I can be so personable to a stranger when I am high and connect with them on a completely indifferent level which is a good thing. Now of course, everyone adapts and changes because we are all different to these types of situations.. but for me I just love the feeling when I am high and it just really levels me out sometimes. If I was at a party 6 years ago? I would be mute just like you were... but as a grew and smoked more... it formed into this whole new socialized monster and now I find myself talking to anyone that I don't know if I am at a party or something to that nature.

Everyone finds their niche when smoking weed, and some find a way to either go on with it or not smoke at all. But there have been many times where people I don't know ask me if I was ok because I was so quiet.. but in a friendly way and I would always give one word answers and try not to be awkward lol. The more you smoke, the more you know how much you should and if you are in the mood matters as well.

BUT, on vaporizers again.. I find it when you give it a decent hit and do not see much smoke come out after you are done hitting it gave me the best high... but like I said, it goes right to my head and I feel like i'm floating at some points :D

And Magro.. did you get a case or pouch for it??

I definitely feel like this won't deter me from ever smoking again, but it's definitely back to a learning process for me- when and where and how much since my tolerance for it is back to zero! Taking it slow and it will probably take having to do it with less people, so I can re-learn my social confidence while stoned :P

[Baphomette]

Silk Road has warped my fragile little mind.

[Scarlet Siren]

Silk Road has warped my fragile little mind.

That's still going?!? :o

[Amaro]

Magro.. did you get a case or pouch for it??

Tin lunch box type case (black battery charger version) that fits everything and more, if you rearrange things right. My latest addition is an SD card case that has freshly ground herb fit for two Launch Box loads. The one I have is maple, which I may paint or do something to, and the next one I get will probably be walnut with an etched glass.

The graph thingy...

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/08/pa3yhuqu.jpg

Edit: I can't get it to be appear full res after linking it (small text in it), and after saving it to my phone for proof? So here's the site link:

http://www.theweedblog.com/smoking-marijuana-vs-vaporizing-marijuana-infographic/

[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

Tin lunch box type case (black battery charger version) that fits everything and more, if you rearrange things right. My latest addition is an SD card case that has freshly ground herb fit for two Launch Box loads. The one I have is maple, which I may paint or do something to, and the next one I get will probably be walnut with an etched glass.

The graph thingy...

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/08/pa3yhuqu.jpg

Edit: I can't get it to be appear full res after linking it (small text in it), and after saving it to my phone for proof? So here's the site link:

http://www.theweedblog.com/smoking-marijuana-vs-vaporizing-marijuana-infographic/


Haha, I like your creativity with the piece. I used to have a nice little bag made by "Bakoda" and it had the perfect space for everything you needed on the go and also had a waterproof zip bag lined with insulated foil, and came with a mini plastic tray to break your weed up on; the tray even had one corner etched out to safely get it off the tray. I like the diagram you posted since it gives a more in depth look at what's going on. I have done a lot of research in the past between burning and vaporizing weed so this is a pretty legit and accurate diagram. Vaporizers are just so damn expensive!


I did however have a question about Cocaine since the net is really not useful on the subject. If there is anyone here that has dabbled with it on occasion, how do you know if it is really good or not that good? The only info I could find was if it burns stay away, but if it's smooth then it's pretty good. I am not a daily Coke user at all, but when I go out I like to take some lines here and there. Anyone care to share?

[Highly Psychological]

Silk Road has warped my fragile little mind.

Im still perplexed how on earth people get away with that. You can buy Heroin on the internet. Crazy.

[Jon]

Lost another high school friend this weekend due to overdose. He had purchased what he thought was heroin, and it ended up being fentanyl. Please be careful, folks; I love you all.

If there's something good in all this it's that this happened in the Peoria County Jail. The person who sold my friend the powder is now facing a first-degree murder charge (up to life without parole), and a charge for smuggling narcotics into a secured facility (up to 1 year).

[Kid Charlemagne]

I ate three hash brownies yesterday afternoon and I still have a small haze going through me. It's been insane, I've been eating a lot, which I normally don't do under the influence, I saw Pacific Rim in Imax 3D, and kept on having repressed memories of being in grade school. It's not as bad as it was last night when I almost freaked out but this is easily as high as I've ever been.

[ibanez33]

I haven't had edibles in quite a while but the best time I ever had on them was when I made a half-batch for a few casual pot-smoker friends and myself a couple years ago with a 1/4 ounce of weed, we only had 1 each and the peak lasted for like 4 hours. We were taking turns playing Peggle on my buddies Xbox and we were getting into it like it was game 7 for the Stanley Cup. I stepped out for a smoke and stayed out for like half an hour watching a plane go by off in the distance.

[ComaAlpha]

ok, I took acid for the first time through out the past week and I have mixed feelings about it. The giggly parts were awesome and had some really awesome conversations with the friends I took with, but physically I felt way too heavy, way too queezy and pretty much felt like I was hung-over. And it also didn't "expand my mind" like everyone said it would.

[halloween]

I can't wait to move into my new place...I'm going to make all my (to be bought in the future) cannabis into edibles! I've made cannabis oil a couple times now and it's the best alternative I have to smoking until I get my hands on a vaporizer.

[Amaro]

ok, I took acid for the first time through out the past week and I have mixed feelings about it. The giggly parts were awesome and had some really awesome conversations with the friends I took with, but physically I felt way too heavy, way too queezy and pretty much felt like I was hung-over. And it also didn't "expand my mind" like everyone said it would.

I've not tried it... But I'd imagine everything has to do with your state of mind. And just...your mind. As well as the setting(s), of course. If you're sure it was pure LSD or can really trust that it was, don't think about expectations or much at all except the space around you, and if/when you feel best to--try it again, from the same source. I also wonder how much (or little) you took. And, as you describe, you also just may not have appreciated a lot of the feeling it gave you, so maybe the experience that time wasn't as positive to get you anywhere really new.

///

I've laid off pot for at least 2 weeks because I need to be clean for any job coming my way. Just in case there's a test. It kinda sucks. :)

[halloween]

ok, I took acid for the first time through out the past week and I have mixed feelings about it. The giggly parts were awesome and had some really awesome conversations with the friends I took with, but physically I felt way too heavy, way too queezy and pretty much felt like I was hung-over. And it also didn't "expand my mind" like everyone said it would.

When I took acid a few months ago, it was intense in terms of visuals hallucination but as the for the mental perspective it reminded me of weed which may explain the giggly stuff for you. Maybe it wasn't very strong acid you took? But it does have a load on the body and the guy I took it with knew what to do so he had some vitamin/mineral that he gave me after we were coming down, I don't remember what it was but it's worth looking into because you want to help your body recover as best as possible.

[TheyCallMeDrug]

dabs, dabs and more dabs of shatter is all i can say. after smoking for 17 years now i never thought my smoking game would get flipped so hard, but I'm glad it did. feel healthier every day and the high is amazing every time.

[ComaAlpha]

Oh, it was positive. It was all very positive. And I didn't take much at all. It was only a half of a hit. But I can't try the same source, 'cause the same sources makes it different every time he makes it.

[Amaro]

Oh, it was positive. It was all very positive. And I didn't take much at all. It was only a half of a hit. But I can't try the same source, 'cause the same sources makes it different every time he makes it.

Sounds like too small of a hit for anything to really take off, which was probably smart for a first time. But I'm failing to understand the last part about the consistency... Your source actually made it? If so, and if it's true acid being made, that should be doable again and again. Definitely take one whole hit as your next, whenever and wherever you get it, but take note of the sensation/"taste" on your tongue. I can never seem to get an absolutely straight answer for this from my reading, but generally from what I gather--if it's super bitter tasting I'd consider taking it out. If it's "metallic" tasting (trying to draw the line between that and bitter...), or it tastes/feels "electric", or it's just tasteless (and maybe sensation-less), then maybe you should keep that one hit there. In the end, everything's a risk to a degree, but while you could have a good time on a research chemical being passed as acid, it's my understanding that some research chemicals can be somewhat dangerous on the body, especially if you do them in a larger dose. So keeping it to a respectable minimum is pretty grave unless some clearing measures check out with the chemical, or you have all your trust in the source, in my opinion.

[ComaAlpha]

I don't see myself paying for it unless I plan on taking some before a concert. To be clear I mean GOING to a concert. Not PLAYING a concert. I'd probably forget everything and fuck up everywhere if I took acid before playing a show.

[halloween]

I think next time I do acid, I`ll only take one hit as well. I took three tabs last time...

[fuckit]

Acid is fucking crazy. Has anybody ever listened to nin on acid? I didn't when I dropped because the idea of it sounded like mental suicide.

[fuckit]

Might as well add this tidbit here... Acid changed me for the better even though it was a generally shitty experience.

[Pillfred]

Acid is fucking crazy. Has anybody ever listened to nin on acid? I didn't when I dropped because the idea of it sounded like mental suicide.

Context is key. I've had it go both ways. Though anymore I probably wouldn't do it. Also extreme screen Saw movies I would advise against. Alice in Wonderland as well. Though mileage may vary on that last one.

[TheyCallMeDrug]

i made it about 30 minutes into a scanner darkly on acid a couple years ago. had a nice mini-panic attack and turned that shit off quick.

[Amaro]

Might as well add this tidbit here... Acid changed me for the better even though it was a generally shitty experience.

Interesting...that's cool though.

[allegro]

I think next time I do acid, I`ll only take one hit as well. I took three tabs last time...
Oh Jesus. Do a HALF! It's a nice, light, interesting experience.

[Sutekh]

I did green rolex at belfast and started tripping during gave up, the inside of my head turned red and blue :D hnnnnnnn

[halloween]

Oh Jesus. Do a HALF! It's a nice, light, interesting experience.

Well, the only reason I did three was because the "first" time I did it, the first tab did nothing so after an hour we took a second one, which after another hour was alright but nothing major, so we took a third one and finally stuff started having effect but all it did was make me want to dance a bit more and feel a little giggly. We weren't sure of the strength of the tabs when I did it the second time so all three at once was the decision...and boy was it the wrong decision! I don't regret it though- it was kind of like learning to swim by being pushed into the deep end!! Now though I want to go back to it through a lighter, more navigable mental space than the mindfuck I experienced, hehehe.

[SM Rollinger]

Holy balls, ive never had the nerve to take 3. I took 2 once, years ago, at a Mastodon concert. Bad idea, i could hear people whispering all around me the whole time. Got the fear, and it ruined the show. They even played Seabeast, my favorite song! And i just cowered in terror! My only saving grace was that i was familiar with the venue. I wasnt able to even listen to them for years after wards.

Last time i touched the stuff, i took one, and proceeded to play Halo Reach connected to my computer monitor. For about 5 hours solid, it was like i had the 1000 yard gaze. I saw somebody move, booom headshotz! A hell of a body buzz, but no visuals. The best experience I had with it was seeing Tool on the first leg of the 10000 Days Tour, with the lasers during Wings For Marie/10k Days, and shit. I dont have words for it, but it was THE definitive acid experience for myself. Everything since then has just been chasing the high, and honestly, i think im past hallucinogenics. I havent touched them in years, im too old for that shit, lol

[nobies]

I took some 25i with a friend of mine a few weeks ago and we kept blowing each other's minds because somehow we had nearly the same hallucinations.

[aggroculture]

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[fuckit]

did a little over an eighth of shrooms yesterday. Best night of my life.

[johnbron]

<3

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/07/6uta6uby.jpg

#ihavethebestgirlfriend #organic #homegrown

[Wolfkiller]

At 30 and never having done any drugs, I must say I'm a bit jealous of all your stories. Never too late to experiment, right? Someone mail me some acid or something! ;p

[Fixer808]

At 30 and never having done any drugs, I must say I'm a bit jealous of all your stories. Never too late to experiment, right? Someone mail me some acid or something! ;p
"So then, he tried to get me to sell him some LSD or some grass or somethin'. Pigs must be low on their quotas they gonna try and jive us like that, y'know?"
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Woodstock_redmond_hair.JPG

;)

[johnbron]

Smoke pot. Start listening to the new NIN album on headphones. Loving it. Suddenly realize that I should be watching Tim and Eric. Now watching Tim and Eric. Nice.

[elevenism]

Holy balls, ive never had the nerve to take 3. I took 2 once, years ago, at a Mastodon concert. Bad idea, i could hear people whispering all around me the whole time. Got the fear, and it ruined the show. They even played Seabeast, my favorite song! And i just cowered in terror! My only saving grace was that i was familiar with the venue. I wasnt able to even listen to them for years after wards.



Ha! i HAD to comment on this because the same thing happened to me at a tool show when i was a teenager. i was on a headful of acid, and tool finally came out...and maynard was wearing that awful orange leotard thing with and orange wig and white facemask. and the guitar player was fucking painted like a blue man from blue man group. i split! i went out to where you could buy a hot dog. i was utterly terrified. So i bought a hot dog and looked up and there was a monitor with tool on it. I got the fear again! i was finally able to get it together and go back into the main arena area, but good lord, Aenima has held some DARK vibes ever since then.

As for the rest of drugs, i'm one of those guys who has tried all of them. a LOT.
it turns out that the best thing is pharmaceutical grade opiates...
that's just me.

oh. and it turns out that if you eat about 600 mg of lyrica, it's somewhere between mdma and ghb.
just sayin.

[Pillfred]

Been to two shows on acid, Korn back in '98 and ozzy a few years ago. Korn wasn't bad even though my friends were no where around, I just lost myself in the bass. Ozzy was unnerving at first but once every one was shit faced I felt almost sober in comparison.

One of the worst decisions I made was going to see Saw #? with my ex. As soon as that face peeled of the skull in full extreme screen WTF! I was on the edge of my seat forcing myself not to leave.

Other than a couple mindfuck sessions I've greatly enjoyed acid.

[Fixer808]

Ex is going to bring some pot truffles or cookies to the Halloween party on the 26th. I can see this shaping up to be an enjoyable night.

[aggroculture]

edited / nevermind

[elevenism]

Lyrica is SO...fucking strange. You should start with like 600 mg. but i worked my way up to gram and a half. it is a very strange, long trip and not for those who want to "get high real fast" and then be done. you will be throwed for 16 hours or so. at first you think you're fine but then you get up and realize you cant walk. you move like fucking jack sparrow, and are inclined to talk and talk and talk. your sense of where your body is in space is distorted. i dont know how to explain it all except to say i would put it somewhere between mdma and ghb. Holler at me if you get hold of some and want to try it....i am experienced.

[Sarah K]

I took 160mg of Adderall throughout the day during Lollapalooza. The rain felt awesome... And then I cried like 4 different times while NIN was on. It was a really strange day for me.

[sa_nick]

Lyrica is SO...fucking strange. You should start with like 600 mg. but i worked my way up to gram and a half. it is a very strange, long trip and not for those who want to "get high real fast" and then be done. you will be throwed for 16 hours or so. at first you think you're fine but then you get up and realize you cant walk. you move like fucking jack sparrow, and are inclined to talk and talk and talk. your sense of where your body is in space is distorted. i dont know how to explain it all except to say i would put it somewhere between mdma and ghb. Holler at me if you get hold of some and want to try it....i am experienced.

Damn, i didn't know it could get you so fucked up by itself. I was on it for months, taking it mostly as prescribed, 300mg (sometimes 600mg) twice a day. I'm pretty sure it was the main prescription drug effecting the kind of high I'd get when I had weed in this period. I was also on a 200 microgram fentanly patch, 200-260mg of oxycodone a day and some anti-inflamatory that probably did nothing. But yeah, when I had weed I got insanely high very fast and would get minor optical hallucinations with my eyes open and just fall into worlds of patterns when my eyes were closed. On the downside it made me really fucking tired, but it was worth it.

[Louie_Cypher]

Heh movies, do Eraserhead with a head full of acid, well any Lynch movie, concerts on shrooms are delightful, oh I miss you Silk Road
-Louie

[TheyCallMeDrug]

going to seattle this summer for the first summer of legalization. cant wait to dab legally.

[halloween]

I had a pot brownie for my birthday, it was so awesome! It was gifted to me by a guy I met at a party the previous night (my friend had a "wine and cheese adult dinner party", it was fanstastic!) It was such a treat and I can't WAIT to start cooking my own edibles.

[Fixer808]

Friend made some gluten free pot cookies one time, but she used unsweetened chocolate. They literally tasted like dirt, but goddamn did they get the job done!

[aggroculture]

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[TheyCallMeDrug]

are you guys onto dabbing yet in your area or still smoking flowers?

[Pillfred]

I'd say it's pretty much everywhere at this point.

[TheyCallMeDrug]

I'd say it's pretty much everywhere at this point.

say it to people in some places on the east coast and they look at you like you have two heads. even in the nyc area.

[halloween]

I have to say, being on the East coast, I have no idea what "dabbing the flower" means.

[Pillfred]

Hash oil. Then again a lot of kids here in town have been out west, Montana Oregon.... I guess I can't speak for east.

[Amaro]

Definitely in these days. Along with vaping the concentrates/oils.

[TheyCallMeDrug]

I have to say, being on the East coast, I have no idea what "dabbing the flower" means.

dabbing is basically taking full melt hash (nothing left to burn) and vaporizing it off a hot nail. unfortunately it looks kinda like smoking meth to the unknowing eye.

flowers (buds) are typically 15-25%thc and concentrates can be 60-90% thc. even a heavy smoker will get that 'first time high' feeling if they take a dab.

i personally find dabbing much smoother on my lungs and more thoroughly medicating. been doing exclusively for about 2 years now. can be impossible to find out east unless you're making your own though.

[AgentofChaos]

Over the last 3-6 months shit has been been spreading like wild fire around here (East Coast/Toronto). Never heard it called dabbing the fucking flower but whatever. It seems like every person I know who smokes pot on the regular is asking me "hey have you tried this yet" or saying "I basically only smoke hash oil now". Haven't gotten around to it yet personally, but I imagine I'll indulge sooner than later. I doubt I'll transition or even do it semi regularly regardless of my experience though. Not that I haven't heard great things, I have, but I enjoy the process with weed, from start to finish. The breaking it up, the rolling, the physical act of holding the joint, toking it, etc. I rarely use pipes or bongs. I need that spliff. I should probably be getting a vaporizer because I can't smoke in my apartment anymore and it's cramping my fuckin style these days but I'd definitely be sad to lose my whole rigmarole process that goes along burning, so that's probably why I'm slacking on that. Either that or also just possibly because I'm a stoner. Ha.

[halloween]

Vaporizing it on a hot nail? That doesn't make any sense to me. Like...a nail that you use to hang a picture on? Or is this more slang I'm unfamiliar with? Either way, sounds interesting!

[Pillfred]

You can get pieces for a bong I would think those pen things work also. It's kinda like a knife hit if you've ever tried that. You basically torch the "nail" metal till it's hot then when you dab it it smokes just like really hit oil in a pan, sort of. Also if you happen to have a lot if leaf laying around it's pretty easy to make. I'd say it's a bit of a cleaner high. Wish this shit was more common back when I was kid doing my stoner phase.

[TheyCallMeDrug]

you can vaporize it on a glass, titanium or quartz nail. here's a link to one of the more popular companies who make titanium products.

http://aqualabtechnologies.com/concentrate-utensils/highly-educated-1.html.

then you would use an oil rig like this with a male joint instead of a female (like a bong)

http://aqualabtechnologies.com/scientific-glass/toro-glass/toro-glass-7-arm-micro-vapor-tube-black-white.html

overall the high is much cleaner, and A LOT stronger, and if you're a heavy smoker you'd prob love it. it seriously cuts back on the amount of wear and tear on your lungs through smoking.

[Highly Psychological]

Artist does 25 different Drugs in 25 days and draws self portrait when high on each different drug.

http://thechive.com/2012/08/09/self-portraits-done-to-a-different-drug-every-day-45-photos/ (http://thechive.com/2012/08/09/self-portraits-done-to-a-different-drug-every-day-45-photos/)

I only done a few of the Drugs on this list, some seem a bit forced but oddly the one here that appears the most accurate to my mind is the Crystal Meth one. Obviously a horrible drug and a heavy, extremely hard, utterly overwhelming (mostly nasty) experience when i did it once but its weird how much his drawing reminds me so much of my experience of when i was on it, the approach to the come down phase from it mostly, confused, oddly ambient,wired, this sort of frantic manic foggy haze. Captured the contradictions of it! I dont know its weird!
Also i think he illustrated a few of the Antidepressant's pretty accurate too. Zoloft in particular.
Apparently he suffered Brain Damage after conducting this experiment!

[hellabryanstyle]

I did 6 hits of acid at the Portland NIN show. It was a blast.

[zombielynx21]

First bowl in my own place. Feels like victory.

[TheyCallMeDrug]

First bowl in my own place. Feels like victory.

congrats man, that's always a great feeling.

[Charmingly Miserable]

Ok. I haven't dabbled into anything in YEARS but I kinda wanna roll. I've only done it once before 11/12 years ago at a rave (duh). I'm a little on the fence because I am in my early 30s and think I'm too old to do that stuff. Plus, I wanna do it with someone I trust. If I do end up doing it, it will be just me and one other person probably in the middle of the desert. I know that it is a "social" thing, but do you think that is okay to do with just two people involved?

[Fixer808]

Talkin' MDMA? I'm sure it'll be fine. I've only done it once, a couple years ago. To me, it was a lot like pot, only without the paranoia I usually get. Drank a shitload of water whilst on it. I'd say don't go into it with preconceived notions of it being a "social thing", just roll with it (pun not intended but maybe kinda).

[Charmingly Miserable]

Talkin' MDMA? I'm sure it'll be fine. I've only done it once, a couple years ago. To me, it was a lot like pot, only without the paranoia I usually get. Drank a shitload of water whilst on it. I'd say don't go into it with preconceived notions of it being a "social thing", just roll with it (pun not intended but maybe kinda).
No. Ecstasy.

[DF118]

MDMA is ecstasy. Although I wouldn't compare to cannabis, personally.

[Charmingly Miserable]

MDMA is ecstasy. Although I wouldn't compare to cannabis, personally.
I'm soooooo out of the loop. But, yeah......

[Fixer808]

Just remember to drink a lot of water during. I didn't drink any booze the whole night. As it was my first time I think it was a lower dose. Friend had me hang on to her second pill but I put it in my pocket and lost it at some point pulling my wallet out (I think) to buy bottles of water... She said the next day that it was probably a good thing that I had lost it, she wanted to take it later in the night and said it would probably have been a tactical error.
It was mellow, for me, I felt quite happy the whole time.

Next day, however, I woke up around 9am, felt a bit shitty, decided to sleep a little while longer, woke up again and looked at the clock, "5pm?! Holy shit!" Luckily I didn't have anything to do that day, so you shouldn't plan to either!

[Charmingly Miserable]

^Thanks for the heads up. Like I said, it has been 10+ years since I've done it but I feel the need to have a total sensory experience.

[ibanez33]

I fucking love that stuff, but I haven't touched it in a while. Might be nice to pick up some more for New Years or something... Last time I had any was at Squamish festival when I was seeing Madeon, fuck it was awesome. I went on a 2-month coke/mdma/liquor binge in '11 though and pretty much wrecked myself, so ever since then I just stick to the beers and sometimes bring out the drugs for special occasions but very rarely.

[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

Ok. I haven't dabbled into anything in YEARS but I kinda wanna roll. I've only done it once before 11/12 years ago at a rave (duh). I'm a little on the fence because I am in my early 30s and think I'm too old to do that stuff. Plus, I wanna do it with someone I trust. If I do end up doing it, it will be just me and one other person probably in the middle of the desert. I know that it is a "social" thing, but do you think that is okay to do with just two people involved?

If you haven't taken Molly in years I would suggest just a gram to yourself. I have taken a good amount this year since I have been to a record breaking 17 shows this year (Not all on Molly) so my tolerance is up there. When I get it in powder form, I like to just lick the end of my pinkie finger and cover just about half of the tip to see how it feels.. (reliable sources let you stray away from testing it of course) Then I'll periodically take one here and there.. you can feel when you start to come down do if you do.. take it intervals. People tend to feel the come down and take more in each dose and they end up in lala land, or they get sick and vomit for a bit. If it is in crystal form, I like to take a decent sized rock and just chew it with some water. Clear, Foggy White, Pink, and even a faded yellow are all good colors... stray away from the darker colors like red or brown.


As long as you keep yourself hydrated which is the most important aspect about taking MDMA, you will be fine. I like to be with at least 3 to 4 people when I'm on it.. 2 is even fine but more is better, especially with friends :)

[halloween]

MDMA is ecstasy. Although I wouldn't compare to cannabis, personally.

As I understand is, ecstasy is MDMA (aka molly) usually cut with something else, usually a speed of sorts. Atleast in my circle of friends, Molly/MDMA refers to the pure version of it.

I took half a pill of E once. I've yet to take just purified Molly, but the E had notable effects. I talked a lot more to people, not in a caffeinated sense, just felt more open to share and comfortable. I felt connected to people and it honestly did leave me vulnerable to becoming too physical with some people, which when I was sober I really didn't want that to happen. All this is what cannabis does NOT do to me. I become less confident in talking, I'm prone to being more silent because I start experience things in a very visual way, I don't have verbal thoughts per se- however, when it comes to writing, my best poetry came from being high because when I focused quietly in the thoughts in my head, the vocabulary came out a lot more creatively. Ultimately, with cannabis I always feel more introspective and in such a highly creative space where I don't want to spend my time watching music or a movie, I usually want to take photographs, write, go out exploring the world and my mind. I sometimes wonder if this is just my personal inclination to perceiving the world and drugs can just heighten those personal preferences. Unfortunately, there are preferences and then there is, as Jung would say, "the shadow". I can get particularly anxious and paranoid on cannabis- nothing that wouldn't happen normally, it's just amplified waaay too much. If I'm already in a stressed mood, smoke cannabis around people, I start percieving everyone as, literally, wild animals- all a threat to me, their words, their actions, secretly making fun of me/my sense of self (or ego!) since I know I wasn't physically in danger....anyways. I've talked about this before so I'll stop now. I'm ranting because I'm "drugged" with alcohol- another drug that makes me talk more, not less!! Woohoo, breaking down of inhibitions!

[TheyCallMeDrug]

buddy from cali came by since he's home for the holidays. has an e-cig filled with banana og x kush cross oil good for about 100 drags. flew it out with him on person. technology is unbelievable, only if most states ok'd this stuff.

[Amaro]

I had a really, really bad experience last night with some White Widow (hybrid strain)...a single but rather big bong rip. The whole thing may have been set by the fact I coughed pretty bad from the start, but this grew to be unlike any other undesirable experience I'd had before. Easily the most frightening thing my consciousness has ever gone through. It was like a bad trip (if I had to guess what that's all about), a "hell"...and I wouldn't use that word to describe it if I really didn't mean it.

The effects were locking in very fast from the one rip. I had time to wash my throat up under the running water right after the rough intake, and once I did all I could with that I was standing next to the stove, just staring down at the stove top, feeling the weight set in. Around this point I knew it was gonna only get heavier so I lied down on a couch, onlooking my friends playing some music at a weird angle (which was the only kinda cool aspect of this whole experience). It was a manageable yet still confused state I was in. I wish I could've just stayed right there for the night instead of going out to eat, looking back, and I should have, seeing as it was a calmer/quieter setting, but I wonder if the feelings would've even stayed that manageable had I stayed there during the whole experience. Who knows what the peak feelings would have brought me had I been there alone. We had planned earlier that we'd go out to eat...so that's what I went on with.

The car ride is pretty suppressed in my head, for whatever reason. I think I just remember trying to hold of my shit together in case I would throw up. Arriving at a bar/restaurant, I took my seat and almost immediately rested my head on my folded arms on the table. From what I can now recall my one friend woke me up out of being upset for doing that...and I'm beginning to wonder now if that's what really made it turn really bad. *sigh* From that moment onward till the comedown back at the house...the one sure thing is my head was literally constantly unraveling, in fast-forward, but just "slow" enough to "read" a thought, never anything very substantiated or "new" to me, and then it was *snap*--right to the next...and the next... Repeat this process, over and over and over. Haywire, is another way of putting it. It would affect my line of sight, which was sorta warped to the level of intensity of my head at a given moment; sensations of needing to throw up, slight shaking and grinding of my limbs, which I remember scared me once I noticed it was affecting me so physically. I felt the utter fear of going insane, and had a belief of going or having gone insane...that I would never leave this pace of mental activity. At times the public voices in the restaurant grew so loud in volume in my foreground perception and my friends' voices went clear to the background...and "I" told myself this is where I would start always hearing voices for the rest of my life. On one occasion I forced myself to get up and go outside to get away from the noise. I tried so hard to fight this frenzy in general, but my best wasn't having it. During eating pizza I was trying to cut a little slice atop the whole pizza as I was staring at another point of the table for however long, making a mess of cheese, which my same one friend mentioned earlier sort of scolded me for doing. *shakes head* My hands just did circle motions with the knife and fork, over and over. In general I was often staring somewhere on the table, only answering any questions my friends had usually with a "yeah" or "no"...*after* I'd already answered the question multiple times in my head. I realized this in the moment of it happening after enough questions...and found it troubling and further thought I was going insane or already had gone insane. My friends weren't of any help, not the other one either, but I don't think they'd ever gone through something like that. *shakes head*

It was truly borderline zero control...for however long that actually was.

I'm most likely taking an indefinite break. Too much shit in my life to figure out...apparently.

[allegro]

I had a bad experience from something called "Monkey Paw," once, some of which included what you described, and it pretty much ended any smoking pot for me, too. It didn't help that I was at a gay bar for a birthday party and I was followed into the ladies' room by a stalker biker lesbian and I was having flash-forwards from a Linda Blair prison movie, trying to figure out how to fashion a shank out of a toilet paper holder.

[DigitalChaos]

Had a similar experience the first time eating brownies. I put an ounce of the most expensive CA medical weed into a tray of like 4 brownies. Ate them 30min before going into a huge art exhibit that had nothing but plasticized cadavers throughout a dark building.


We only made it through the first room before trying to backtrack when my girlfriend was no longer able to actually walk. The straightest path back resulted in us "hiking" through a ton of planters while holding my girlfriend up. Then we made it into the parking lot which was now experiencing a torrential downpour. Somehow a guy from McDonalds followed us to the parking lot trying to give my wife water. There were a few security guards following along too. We laid down in a safe part of the parking lot for what felt like hours until our ride made it out the other end of the exhibit. The rain didn't stop and it resulted in the flooding in LA that hadn't happened for ~70 years and killed a few people. I wasn't lying about the torrential rain!


I've consumed my share of psychedelics. Nothing has ever matched the intensity of those brownies other than Salvia or DMT.

[DF118]

As I understand is, ecstasy is MDMA (aka molly) usually cut with something else, usually a speed of sorts. Atleast in my circle of friends, Molly/MDMA refers to the pure version of it.


Nope. MDMA is ecstacy. Molly is ecstacy. Ecstacy cut with speed is bad ecstacy. The high odds of finding yourself with bad ecstacy is one of the reasons why it's such a shitty drug.

[Fixer808]

This is EXACTLY why I don't smoke weed very often anymore! 2-3 times a year! BC pot is COMA weed... Christmas party, 2012, this video was basically what I went through (except for the driving part, I'm not THAT much of an asshole):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8FzGlgVGdo

I had a couple hits, then after maybe ten minutes I had to go out and take a breather in the alley, short walk, cool down. Go back inside, friends are like "Where WERE you?! You've been gone for 45 minutes!"
Then I did that thing where I try to contribute in a meaningful way to a conversation and it's a train-wreck of "you know" and "like........... ahhhhhhhhhh.............", and all spoken at a high volume, where you say something really loud and then think "SHIT... now they know you're high."

[ibanez33]

Going through that right now wow

[ophelia_]

What do you guys do when your friends have stopped partying? Gone are the days where we used to get fucked up 3 or 4 times a week, but I'd be happy to go out and have a *really* good night once a month or so and it kinda sucks that they don't want to do that anymore?

It's no where near as fun to take anything when I'm by myself, or if I'm the only person in the group on something. It's like I'm forced to be sober. Urgh.

[allegro]

This is EXACTLY why I don't smoke weed very often anymore! 2-3 times a year! BC pot is COMA weed... Christmas party, 2012, this video was basically what I went through (except for the driving part, I'm not THAT much of an asshole):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8FzGlgVGdo

I had a couple hits, then after maybe ten minutes I had to go out and take a breather in the alley, short walk, cool down. Go back inside, friends are like "Where WERE you?! You've been gone for 45 minutes!"
Then I did that thing where I try to contribute in a meaningful way to a conversation and it's a train-wreck of "you know" and "like........... ahhhhhhhhhh.............", and all spoken at a high volume, where you say something really loud and then think "SHIT... now they know you're high."
Jesus, somehow I'd missed this post and this video, but I was just laughing at this video so hard just now I actually had one of my cats concerned and meowing at me! It's fucking true, especially the 70s weed part!

Edit: I've gone back and watched this, shit, at least 4 times now and now my abs hurt from laughing so hard.

It's really true, though; like you said, the last time you did weed was pretty much exactly like the last time I did weed; I didn't contribute to any conversations, I was just wondering how long this was gonna last, I was wondering if I could go lie down somewhere. Shit, the moment I realized I was high, I had actually FORGOTTEN I HAD SMOKED WEED for about 10 seconds and I had just done it about 2 minutes ago. And I did NOT take giant 70s hits like Louis CK, I was very cautious knowing that this new shit ain't like our 70s "I have an Oh-zee of weed in my purse all the times" Columbian Gold weed. But even my childhood friend, who still smokes all the time, was really fucked up, she says this shit is still really strong for her. We were together last Christmas and some of us went to this Christmas thing in Detroit and I looked over at her and realized that she was high and, suddenly, we were 15 again and she was doing that grin you do when you're high and trying not to look high.

And then I was glad I don't do that anymore.

[screwdriver]

What do you guys do when your friends have stopped partying? Gone are the days where we used to get fucked up 3 or 4 times a week, but I'd be happy to go out and have a *really* good night once a month or so and it kinda sucks that they don't want to do that anymore?

It's no where near as fun to take anything when I'm by myself, or if I'm the only person in the group on something. It's like I'm forced to be sober. Urgh.

if that's what you want, find new friends
(serious)

[Sarah K]

All I wanna do lately is smoke... But I hardly know anyone here, and I would probably be doing it all alone.

And I don't wanna slippery slope myself back into damaging habits.

[ophelia_]

if that's what you want, find new friends
(serious)

Yeah, pretty sure that's what I'm going to have to do... I love my mates but I also wanna have a good time while I'm young enough to get away with it, haha.

[ibanez33]

Yeah, pretty sure that's what I'm going to have to do... I love my mates but I also wanna have a good time while I'm young enough to get away with it, haha.

It's not like you have to replace your current friends, just make a few more who are still into partying.

[ophelia_]

It's not like you have to replace your current friends, just make a few more who are still into partying.

Oh yeah, I have no intention of replacing my current friends! It's just finding people cool enough to hang out with that also do drugs that's the hard part :P

[Sarah K]

Ate a bunch of Morphine tabs the other night.

Slept away my first day off in months.

Now I feel like an asshole.

But, that was the last of everything that I had. So I sincerely hope that was it. Feels bad, man.

[Fixer808]

I remember finding some old T-3s in my parents' medicine cabinet years ago and washing a couple down with some beers. Opiates are not fun, I just sat there at the computer, listless, for way too long. Hope you stay off 'em, Sarah, be strong!

[Sarah K]

I should have just gotten rid of them months ago. It was my fault for hanging on to them.

But that has to be it. Shit will get REAL dark if it isn't. Attempting to have faith in myself.

[Baphomette]

I should have just gotten rid of them months ago..You could always send them to me. :D

[Sarah K]

You SHOULD HAVE ASKED FRIDAY...

We could have avoided this whole shitstorm. ;)

[halloween]

I've got weed again and I've been smoking it lightly every day (I'll smoke half a bowl at a time, so through the day I'll have maybe one full bowl, of my relatively small pipe) for the past month. I'm starting to appreciate being sober more- unless I have to do shit like cleaning and chores around the house- smoking definitely makes all that more possible and enjoyable. I'm finding that I'm drinking more when I don't smoke and it makes me wonder if I "have a problem" or...am just too damn bored being in this little town alone, where the only people I see is co-workers every day and family once a week. I have to travel 1.5 hours by car to the city where my friends and bf live, that happens about every month for a week or two at a time. I keep thinking "so much time alone means I can do so much art and reading and writing and hula hooping and my garden and this and that" all of which I do. I don't do it all every day or even every week (there's not much to do with my garden right now as I wait for the seeds to grow) so then I have more extra time than I expected so then I spend maybe three hours a day being stoned or drinking a little and "wasting time on the computer" (even though I end up reading a lot which in the end isn't an unproductive thing.)

I don't like being stoned around people so I realized that if I lived with room mates or lived in a place I could meet up with friends, I probably wouldn't be smoking that much. So I wonder, is it so wrong after all that I'm smoking this much? I was listening to a radio piece about drugs today on This American Life and one person's conclusion is that if you're smoking, you're running away from something- changing reality a little because it's not good enough. Is it so wrong that what I'm running away from is...boredom in my loneliness? Should I be more sober in my aloneness and fill that time with....more drawing and reading and "productive" things? Before I got this cannabis, I was controlling my moods using coffee and alcohol- both of which I drink less when I smoke. Is it so bad to do that? Alcohol and caffeine are both legalized and they both help me be social. Weed isn't legal but it certainly helps me be alone (or "antisocial" if you want). I'm struggling trying to figure out the "morals" behind this "self-medication".

[sa_nick]

Personally I think it's not a problem until it's a PROBLEM. As long as the weed smoking isn't affecting your work life or getting in the way of your personal life than it's all good. Weed is certainly the lesser of two evils when it comes to alcohol too.

[Amaro]

^ I basically agree there...sure.
@halloween (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=95) Maybe, as you're at a point of wondering about your usage and all it entails, try changing up you're routine(s) a little. Try not smoking for activities or tasks you normally would be (not to be confused with "try to not smoke", as it doesn't sound like you have a 'problem'). To discover more how you're feeling. Not my hopes to induce overanalyzing with experimental change, but maybe something will reveal itself to you bit by bit. It sounds like cannabis use in the moment for you is at least a comfortable thing; you're trying to scope out the bigger picture of what it is you do.

Similarly, not knowing what your living environment is like or if this has ever been a thing for you before, but--what about being in a safe/peaceful place outdoors for a purpose of smoking (or for after you have smoked)?

//

I haven't used any pot since February...I'm going through a rather huge chapter in my life right now, as I've really been for months now, and unfortunately it probably is largely related to pot.

I have some CBD capsules coming my way soon though. That's one of my next moves going forward (as well as the weekly or biweekly therapy, which I respond to positively, even though it's often hard emotionally), it just so happens to involve cannabis. Complicated/Complex plant.

[halloween]

Yeah, I realize that what it's not a problem yet. I just feel guilty sometimes that I've been using it regularly. Your advice to go outside, I actually do go out walking in the woods every other day about (there's a huge tree farm behind my house) and I usually take a small hit for that walk. I noticed that my willingness to do active stuff suffers when I'm stoned, just because I just feel heavier in a way and also makes me more sensitive to my sore muscles from yoga classes, haha!

[DigitalChaos]

Weed is a vasodilator. Your BP drops a bit when you are standing. That's why physical activity seems to suck. I used to love smoking for hikes, but then I would always feel light headed and out of breath... like I'm 40k feet above sea level or something even though I'm at sea level. :(

[halloween]

Hey! Thanks for that information. Coolio, now I know.

[TheyCallMeDrug]

dabs, lots of dabs

[elevenism]

What do you guys do when your friends have stopped partying? Gone are the days where we used to get fucked up 3 or 4 times a week, but I'd be happy to go out and have a *really* good night once a month or so and it kinda sucks that they don't want to do that anymore?

It's no where near as fun to take anything when I'm by myself, or if I'm the only person in the group on something. It's like I'm forced to be sober. Urgh.

it can be hard, that's all i'm gonna say.

[Pillfred]

dabs, lots of dabs

My good friend came to help me move last sunday and left some. Sooo good. He also said when he comes in june he's dropping an ounce on me.

[TheyCallMeDrug]

My good friend came to help me move last sunday and left some. Sooo good. He also said when he comes in june he's dropping an ounce on me.

an ounce of oil is pretty serious.....takes me a qp of nug to get bout 20g of oil. just got my hands on some cannimals. theyre great.

http://instagram.com/p/i76ZjYudhk/

[Pillfred]

Oh haha sorry not an ounce of oil just bud. That would be pretty fucking sick though if he could do that.

[elevenism]

My opiate tolerance went WAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY down while i was locked up, so i'm feeling REALLY good off of a small dose of pharmaceutical opiates and benzos. ;)

[TheyCallMeDrug]

got a split qp of sour diesel and girl scout cookies that will be shatter shortly. another batch of 100mg gummies too. life is good right now.

[elevenism]

wowwww. i'm kinda throwed....
fentanyl, handful of vicodin AND....
i did that strange trick with that strange drug lyrica.
It's so fun.
If anyone has access to this stuff, hit me up and i will tell u how to do it.
Its so crazy...like ghb meets mdma.

EDIT: and please no one get on my ass for talking too much drugs.
Good old eleveno knows what he is doing.

LoveislovE

[elevenism]

Oh jesus....tell me about the fucking golf shoes!

[elevenism]

bump...
hey i want to tell you guys about something...
has anyone tripped on GABA using gabapentin or pregabalin?

It is AMAZING...GHB meets ecstasy.

i call it rolling. it lasts about 16 hours and switches gears a few times.

Where are my fellow psychonauts?

[Sarah K]

This last week has been a huge struggle for me to not go back down this path.

[Fixer808]

This last week has been a huge struggle for me to not go back down this path.

I hope you're succeeding.

[elevenism]

This last week has been a huge struggle for me to not go back down this path.

i have struggled with addiction my entire life, mostly alcohol, but i don't drink now.

i got hurt really bad in a wreck...nearly died. i am in constant pain.
BUT...i get 180 hydrocodone a month now.
they control my pain, and also give me a nice euphoria...but someone has to hold them for me. they are my DOC.

i also get 3 mg of xanax a day.

SO i just take what i am prescribed now, and enjoy it.
and we do the strange lyrica trip once a month...it seems to enhance our connectivity. it brings us closer.
good lord, it's been SO long since i've taken a trippy mind expanding drug. it IS fun and helpful spiritually if used properly.

May i ask what your dangerous path is? I am an addict, but i don't take street drugs anymore, and my doses are controlled.

I used to drink a liter of vodka a day, and i also did a LOT of heroin mixed with coke, and straight heroin.

I consider myself clean now because i actually NEED the drugs that i take.

My nightmare is alcohol...there was a time when i couldn't imagine going a DAY without it.

I've worked the steps 5 times. AA saved my life. I'm not perfect now, but i was WORTHLESS before.
I'm getting ready to work them again, just because i feel myself becoming a selfish asshole.
And i would like to get to the point where i can hold my own pills.
Sarah K , i am sorry if my post glorifying the trip hurt you in any way.

[jessamineny]

There is a sobriety thread if anybody wanted it. http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/937-Sober-However-you-got-there-whatever-keeps-you-here

[Sarah K]

elevenism, you've told that same story 985478 times in 578650 threads now, so I'm pretty sure that has nothing to do with it.

[elevenism]

@elevenism (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=2475) , you've told that same story 985478 times in 578650 threads now, so I'm pretty sure that has nothing to do with it.

perhaps i have told the story too many times:p
but it's the story of my life. i will try not to tell it again, i guess, if it is annoying you. but i have to ask...what do you mean it has nothing to do with it? what is it? nothing to do with what?
i kinda wanted to hear your story if you wish to share it.

[DigitalChaos]

It was quite obvious, in context, that Sarah's post about struggling had nothing to do with your story (when you read both of her posts and your posts)... considering how many times you've told it before and it didn't impact her those times either (according to her last post)

[elevenism]

It was quite obvious, in context, that Sarah's post about struggling had nothing to do with your story (when you read both of her posts and your posts)... considering how many times you've told it before and it didn't impact her those times either (according to her last post)

yeah i'm kind of fucking retarded sometimes.
and sometimes i'm on drugs.

I'll try to stop telling the same stories. Sigh.

i didn't realize i was boring you fuckers with the same shit.

i'll get new material, i promise.

[DigitalChaos]

yeah i'm kind of fucking retarded sometimes.
and sometimes i'm on drugs.

I'll try to stop telling the same stories. Sigh.

For the record, I as just rephrasing her posts. I don't personally hold those views; I don't remember your prior post about that stuff.

[elevenism]

yeah fuck it, don't nobody wanna talk to good ole' eleven about SHIT these days.
perhaps i am too throwed for ets :p

for the record, i LIKE my stories! :D

[nobies]

psilocybin/psilocyn truly is the best drug.

the warmth, man.

the warmth

[Sarah K]

Smoked with my mom, brother, and her ex-boyfriend who introduced her to her current husband.

She used to give me SO MUCH SHIT for smoking weed. So I find this highly amusing.

[elevenism]

i am finally getting the hang of not eating all of my vicodin and xanax too fast.

[TheyCallMeDrug]

mushrooms.

[somethingelse]

Seroquel bomb. See you all in two days or so. Fuck the nightmare.

[elevenism]

Seroquel bomb. See you all in two days or so. Fuck the nightmare.

How was the roll?

[somethingelse]

How was the roll?

As good as it gets. I just wish I had some *ahem* green tea to smoke during my, uhhh, vacation.

[elevenism]

oh how i miss it, somethingelse . there was a pretty big wave of it in the dallas area, 2000 to about 2003, and one of my best friends sold those types of vacations...2 or 3 thousand a week. So for the homies, it was CHEAP.
So it was...JESUS i can't even describe it. Lots of rave parties and drum and bass, and my whole clique just fucking LOOOOOOVED each other, lol.