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theburningreptile
11-24-2011, 04:13 PM
I borrowed this game from my cousin last weekend. It's so fun. It's gotten me into westerns again as well. I guess I'm playing through as a good guy. At first I hated the horse controls though. Now I got the hang of it and it's actually pretty cool, riding one. I have my horse full loyalty, so that helps I guess. I'm definitely getting the GOTY edition. Question: ::::::SPOILERS:::::

I just saved Bonnie from getting hanged. How far along am I in the story?

Goldfoot
11-28-2011, 06:27 PM
I'd say you're maybe a third of the way done with the New Austin missions, but there's a bunch to do after New Austin. So I think you're not all that far into it. I really enjoy that game. I was considering putting it in today to work on some more of the achievements. The game is beautiful. One time I was riding along and the sun was setting and it started to rain. It gave me chills. You'll know you're approaching the end of the game when you get back to Marsten's house. I hope you don't consider it a spoiler to know that the game doesn't end when he makes it back home. I like that they did it that way and the end plays out in a way I hadn't really seen in a game before.

Wretchedest
11-28-2011, 07:00 PM
This game is fun and all but the story was never engaging enough to atop me from lassoing everything with legs

johnbron
11-28-2011, 11:41 PM
I bought this over a year ago and played through the entire game. Loved it. I recently popped it back in again to play more of the Undead Nightmare pack. Fantastic game.

S. Chonson
12-01-2011, 01:00 PM
I like it better than any of the GTA games put out.

jehuty
12-01-2011, 01:39 PM
I like it better than any of the GTA games put out.

Indeed. But I still wonder why that is, or why I feel that way about it. With the exception of the bullet-time mechanics it's quite literally GTA on horseback.

Amaro
07-11-2012, 04:43 AM
I re-bought this game on PS3...GOTY Edition...when it comes to multiplayer (level 7 or something right now) I feel like I'm doing a lot better than when I first owned the game. But I still can get pwned impossibly fast. Is it in the weapon they use? Are there cheaters? How does the auto-aim sometimes work against other players and sometimes not? I want auto-aim completely off for everybody when it comes to engaging real people. That's how it ought to be. Is that a certain Free Roam difficulty setting, or is it all on each player's options?

nemesiswontdie
07-11-2012, 04:57 AM
I feel like I'm the only one who doesn't like this game. I had a lot of fun fucking around with my friends online, but single player for me was such a damn bore. I'd play for a good hour or so in single player and get so bored with it. I couldn't get into any of the characters, the quest to me were lame and the story itself was just boring to me. I think it's probably because I don't really like westerns.

xmd 5a
07-11-2012, 06:48 AM
Could never get fully into the multi (though it seemed like one of the more interesting multiplayer games I've tried) but the single player campaign was glorious. Granted, things did start to drag a bit during the Mexico arc, but all in all a wholly immersive and satisfying experience. I've been jonesing for a similar game since I polished it off back in 2010 (Undead Nightmare was okay but didn't quite grab me as much as the game proper). Hopefully AssCreed III will fit the bill!

Piko
07-11-2012, 08:09 AM
Only redeeming value I saw about the multiplayer was the fact that you and your friends and ride around and kill others. Which was a lot of fun. Riding around and wham, dead by some random Guy with a rifle. The fun came along when you and you're friends track the Guy, and kill him, again and again... other than the free roam stuff, we didn't bother. Completed challenges, like how you can get your bounty. I actually just rebought the game this week too (GOTY). Never finished the campaign.

PooPooMeowChow
07-11-2012, 12:42 PM
This is up there as one of my favorite games I've ever played.
I can't think of any other game where I actually stopped what I was doing to admire the sunset/sunrise.
Riding up to the mountains to hunt Bears. Wreaking havoc while riding the train.
The only things I didn't like was Mexico (like most people) and the ending.
Can we talk spoilers since this has been out a while?

EDIT: ok, I hate playing as John's son. He's a cunt.

Amaro
07-11-2012, 01:47 PM
Sure, speak Spanish even, but will someone who knows please answer my questions?

PooPooMeowChow
07-11-2012, 06:42 PM
But I still can get pwned impossibly fast. Is it in the weapon they use? Are there cheaters? How does the auto-aim sometimes work against other players and sometimes not? I want auto-aim completely off for everybody when it comes to engaging real people. That's how it ought to be. Is that a certain Free Roam difficulty setting, or is it all on each player's options?

As you level up you'll get better weapons, the first ones do suck.
There is a glitch that I know of. People do something so that they're invincible with the throwing knife but with the throwing knife only.
I'm not completely sure about the Aim Assist. But you can get Dead Eye which pretty much kills instantly.

For lots of points to level. Posse up and do the gang hide outs in Free Roam. Pikes Basin gives the most points.

Amaro
07-15-2012, 04:53 PM
This game (multiplayer) is pure fun. I'm definitely figuring out more in general.

PS3 people: Add me @ Dubalubb, if I'm maxed out just PM me here or there.

REPLICA
07-15-2012, 05:04 PM
This was one of the only few games which I actually wanted to complete 100%. It took me a while but when I finished it was quite possbily the greatest day of my gaming life (to that point).

Self.Destructive.Pattern
07-15-2012, 10:30 PM
I just bought this last week, and god is it addicting. The game is so deep and there is a lot to do to keep you busy for a while. How good is Undead Nightmare??

Conan The Barbarian
07-16-2012, 01:00 AM
its great. what system?

Amaro
07-16-2012, 01:40 AM
You fucks and your Xbox... It's always goddamn Xbox.

Self.Destructive.Pattern
07-16-2012, 08:10 AM
its great. what system?

PS3 over here.

@Magrao - I feel your pain dude.

october_midnight
02-26-2016, 11:14 AM
Rumors swirling that Red Dead Redemption 2 will be revealed at E3 this year. If so, I'll shit my pants in excitement.

october_midnight
03-18-2016, 11:07 AM
Rumors swirling even more now that Red Dead Redemption 2: Legends of The West (http://fraghero.com/rumor-red-dead-redemption-2-details-leaked-e3-reveal-planned/) will be revealed at E3, and release late 2017.

october_midnight
04-15-2016, 10:20 AM
Red Dead Redemption 2 map reportedly leaked. (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/red-dead-redemption-2-game-map-reportedly-leaked/1100-6438892/?ftag=GSS-05-10aaa0b)

Announce this damn thing already.

october_midnight
10-16-2016, 09:52 AM
Rockstar posted this on Twitter about two hours ago...yussssss

https://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1558704/red-dead-3-teaser-rockstar.jpg?w=736

elevenism
10-16-2016, 11:29 AM
does anyone still play the multiplayer on PS3?

thelastdisciple
10-16-2016, 12:56 PM
does anyone still play the multiplayer on PS3?
I've actually never played the multiplayer before but I'd be willing to join a game with you.

Haven't played the game in years so I'll no doubt have to relearn all the controls haha

elevenism
10-16-2016, 01:48 PM
I've actually never played the multiplayer before but I'd be willing to join a game with you.

Haven't played the game in years so I'll no doubt have to relearn all the controls haha

i've never tried the multiplayer either. Let's check it out sometime soon, brother man.

october_midnight
10-17-2016, 12:31 PM
http://i.cbc.ca/1.3808312.1476717090!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/red-dead-redemption-teaser.jpg

kdrcraig
10-18-2016, 08:39 AM
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/10/18/rockstars-new-game-is-red-dead-redemption-2-and-its-out-next-year (http://www.playstationtrophies.org/news/news-20542-Red-Dead-Redemption-2-Official--Set-For-For-Fall-2017--Trailer-Coming-Thursday.html)

RDR2 official! Coming Fall 2017

Fuck yeah!!

r_z
10-18-2016, 09:21 AM
As much as I'm loving the idea of a second RDR, I wonder how/if they'll continue their story. After all they've said everything they had to say with the first one. In a near perfect way nonetheless.

Kodiak33
10-18-2016, 10:04 AM
Shit, no PC announcement. Maybe it will come later like GTA V.

kdrcraig
10-18-2016, 10:19 AM
As much as I'm loving the idea of a second RDR, I wonder how/if they'll continue their story. After all they've said everything they had to say with the first one. In a near perfect way nonetheless.

It's rumored that this is going to be a prequel. There's a leaked game map that is farther east or something.

october_midnight
10-18-2016, 10:53 AM
Rockstar parent company registered a site for 'Red Dead Online' so I assume the multiplayer aspect will be akin to GTA5 which is alright by me.

thelastdisciple
10-18-2016, 12:02 PM
I hate that they screwed up their naming convention.. but i guess it makes sense if it carries over characters from Redemption and directly connects with it (even if it precedes it).

I would have been down for Red Dead Ragamuffins or Red Dead Rapscallions. Oh well.

Space Suicide
10-18-2016, 07:10 PM
I'd have liked Red Dead Revenge. That would've been a great name.

I'll get this when the time rolls around.

october_midnight
10-20-2016, 01:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D0kdDQkSO4

october_midnight
05-22-2017, 03:15 PM
RDR 2 delayed to spring 2018. (http://rsg.ms/9f3de98)

Not surprising considering Far Cry 5 this fall is western themed. Screenshots look bonkers though.

Haysey_Draws
05-23-2017, 03:54 AM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....well that's annoying. But considering how many great games have come out this year i think i can hold out another 3-6 months, especially if it needs the extra time to make sure it isn't broken, unlike so many other games that launch in an unpolished state and fix later.

Those screenshots though...my word :eek:

kdrcraig
05-30-2017, 07:39 AM
Those screenshots are insane. They can take another couple of years if that's what the game is going to actually look like, fine by me.

october_midnight
09-22-2017, 09:09 AM
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21687130_10155627732530097_8935348877853248481_o.j pg?oh=b9858b81364751c6caf94ecf11b25189&oe=5A3D1A5C

Shadaloo
09-22-2017, 09:24 AM
Too damn right. RDR was the last game I felt completely immersed in. It was nigh flawless.

october_midnight
09-28-2017, 10:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F63h3v9QV7w

october_midnight
02-01-2018, 10:06 AM
Ugh, Red Dead Redemption 2 now officially streets on October 26th. Sure, it's all about polishing it, but dammit I want it now haha.

Haysey_Draws
02-01-2018, 10:25 AM
...well fishsticks!

At least i have more time to save for a Switch now. I'm sure the wait will be worth it.

october_midnight
02-06-2018, 03:01 PM
Details leak...battle royale mode, first person, you name it... (http://comicbook.com/gaming/2018/02/06/red-dead-redemption-2-leak-battle-royale/)

october_midnight
02-28-2018, 01:44 PM
1st and 3rd person, battle royale multiplayer mode, fully explorable trains, 'more immersive than the world of GTA V'. (https://www.gamesradar.com/whoa-there-a-huge-red-dead-redemption-2-leak-suggests-the-game-will-have-battle-royale-fps-gunplay-and-fully-explorable-trains/?utm_content=bufferff7b1&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=buffer-oxmuktw)

october_midnight
05-02-2018, 10:13 AM
Gimme gimme gimme.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VVhPqGMDAg

Conan The Barbarian
05-02-2018, 07:12 PM
Man, thats going to look beautiful on the xbox one X.

october_midnight
08-09-2018, 10:03 AM
Yes please.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dw_oH5oiUSE&has_verified=1

Haysey_Draws
08-09-2018, 10:23 AM
YES YES PLEASE!

We still have the dead eye slow motion aiming too! I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS GAME!

october_midnight
09-19-2018, 12:31 PM
Red Dead Online to launch a few weeks after RDR2. (https://www.polygon.com/2018/9/19/17879408/red-dead-redemption-2-online-beta-ps4-xbox-one)

kdrcraig
09-20-2018, 02:07 PM
I'm not watching any videos or reading any more articles until this comes out. So pumped for this. Not sure how much I care about the online portion.

Piko
09-20-2018, 02:22 PM
Not sure if I'm going to get it or not. Don't really care. Knowing me, I'll probably end up getting it. I've only seen one trailer and nothing else.

october_midnight
09-20-2018, 03:34 PM
All the sites, Kotaku, Gamespot, etc. reviewed their 2hr demos this morning. The consensus is overwhelmingly positive. Can't wait.

october_midnight
09-20-2018, 05:36 PM
Thread.

https://twitter.com/geoffkeighley/status/1042776318704705536

Haysey_Draws
09-21-2018, 03:21 AM
Few games have me as excited as RD2 (Cyberpunk being a rare exception) but i cannot wait to get lost in this world!

elevenism
09-21-2018, 07:25 AM
I'm INSANELY excited about Red Dead 2, except I'll be playing it in five years or so because I purposely stay a generation behind on consoles.

I've yet to finish the original and have barely dipped into The Last of Us, and since I've never touched a ps 4 or whatever the new xbox is called, it works for me. It's still new to me.

I'm convinced that I'm doing it right because I got my fully loaded PS3 a few years ago for $100, and all the hot games for like $6 each.

october_midnight
10-01-2018, 01:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW5Atc852hU

Haysey_Draws
10-19-2018, 06:12 AM
7 days until Red Dead WOOOOOOO

Kodiak33
10-19-2018, 07:32 AM
7 days until Red Dead WOOOOOOO

I really want to wait for the *maybe* PC announcement, but RDR was fucking incredible...I don't know if I can.

Haysey_Draws
10-19-2018, 08:42 AM
I really want to wait for the *maybe* PC announcement, but RDR was fucking incredible...I don't know if I can.

I don't blame you, but given how long it took just to bring GTAV to PC you could be in for a bit of a wait...but imagine how amazing it would look and run on PC!

Kodiak33
10-19-2018, 11:48 AM
I don't blame you, but given how long it took just to bring GTAV to PC you could be in for a bit of a wait...but imagine how amazing it would look and run on PC!

My will is weak. I can always buy it, beat it, then sell it. I'm sure the resell values will be awesome.

Space Suicide
10-20-2018, 05:23 PM
Rockstar will pad their game sales by re-releases with this game just like they did GTAV.

Haysey_Draws
10-22-2018, 09:10 AM
Red Dead 2 in 4 days!

Haysey_Draws
10-25-2018, 05:53 AM
Red Dead 2 TOMORROW!

Kodiak33
10-25-2018, 07:33 AM
Red Dead 2 TOMORROW!

(Technically tonight :D)

Jinsai
10-25-2018, 08:36 AM
Critics are losing their collective shit....

Haysey_Draws
10-25-2018, 09:50 AM
The praise is indeed quite high. Only negative i've read is the story's not as good as the first...and that was from one person, the rest are in owe of it...MERE HOURS TIL I GET TO PLAY!

october_midnight
10-25-2018, 10:12 AM
Can’t wait, hope that patch isn’t too massive so I can jump right in.

Kodiak33
10-25-2018, 10:49 AM
I'm doing the Gamestop stacking promotion to trade in my old Xbox One and buying RDR2 tonight for $300 off an Xbox One X. Can't wait.

Piko
10-25-2018, 03:20 PM
Preloaded and ready to go. All 92gb of it.

october_midnight
10-25-2018, 04:10 PM
Less than 7 hours unnnnngggghh

Piko
10-25-2018, 06:11 PM
Five hours! Almost there!

Haysey_Draws
10-26-2018, 06:56 AM
Well i managed to screw up. Was going to go to my local supermarket (Sainsbury''s) to get a physical copy...only to find they aren't stocking it, in fact none of the supermarkets are. The closest store is a Game in central London and i was told over the phone "pre-orders only, no extra copies...unless i want the £90 version" so i went back home to get the digital copy that has been downloading for the last 4 hours and is only 14gb of 92gb's...balls! I'm not going to be able to play this until tomorrow am i?

october_midnight
10-26-2018, 11:08 AM
Amazing so far. Words fail me on this one...

Piko
10-26-2018, 12:57 PM
Am I the only one failing at duels? I can't do it. I'm doing what it says and I get nothing. Just stands there. Beyond frustrating. The guides I'm looking up aren't really helpful either.

theburningreptile
10-26-2018, 06:43 PM
I've been playing this since about 4 am, on and off. All the customization though! I love when Rockstar releases a game they don't mess around. There is so much to do in this game it's almost too much. Plan to go hunting? Some asshole stepped on his own beartrap, so you have to decide to help him or not. I'm playing my first play through as i actually would make those decisions. I love how the online mode isn't even out yet. I can't wait until it releases.

The only thing I hate about this game is the permadeath of your horse. That's why I'm always extra careful with her. Oh I'm going into a gun fight with like 30 people vs just Me? Better stay back and chill Cleo. I'm always like, I got your back fam. This is also the only game also where I think fast travel would break the immersion.

All an all 20 horse testicles out of 20.

october_midnight
10-26-2018, 07:23 PM
omg the drunken saloon mission is fuckin' hilarious. Looking for Lenny but getting progressively more and more shitfaced so the prompt to call out for him goes from 'Lenny!' to 'Ynnel' to 'LNNEEY!! !' hahahaha

thelastdisciple
10-26-2018, 10:38 PM
Just did the intro past the first train robbery, fucking loving it.

Had to tap out though otherwise I'd end up screwing with my sleeping patterns again lol

Space Suicide
10-27-2018, 01:03 PM
This game will take me an eternity to beat with how my work is and my unwillingness to play every night when I get home.

Sucks.

I'm old. :p

richardp
10-29-2018, 11:32 PM
Dude this fucking GAAAAAAME!!!!

This game is just... incredible. 100000% worth the wait.

Piko
10-30-2018, 12:58 AM
I like it but it's no 10/10. Had to switch my controls around to do duels. A lot of reviews somehow manage to leave out that R2 tidbit. It's good but it's way overhyped and has a ton of issues (which hopefully get fixed). I'm definitely not as crazy about it like most people

Haysey_Draws
10-30-2018, 08:02 AM
Right i've been playing this all weekend and Monday (extra day off for gaming hype...and came back to work and it's all gone tits up) and i have some...opinions on this game.

The game is brilliant, the graphics are fantastic, the open world is just wonderful and alive, and the shooting and overall gameplay is on point, exactly what i expected from a Rockstar game at this point...but there are a couple of things that are just not clicking for me, namely the story.

Now don't get me wrong, it's well written, well acted and well directed, but to me its...just not a very good story. My biggest problem though is that the protagonist, Arthur Morgan, is...well, really flat as a character. I'm probably hanging too much onto the original Red Dead's story when comparing...but that story was just THAT GOOD, and this story is acting as a prequel TOO THAT GAME, it's impossible not to compare them. And that story was focused solely on John Marston and it worked so damn well. But RD2 just doesn't have that connection to Arthur, in fact he is really dull! He just feels to me as if he is there to move the story along, not tell a story. I'm about 40% in and i just don't care about him, maybe that will change when i'm done, but right now i couldn't really care about his fate, i just keep wishing i could be playing as John or my own character giving the customisation options.

Does this break the game? Not really, the story is "good enough" to power through, and the game-play is thankfully fan-bloody-tastic, just going and getting lost doing random events is fun, i just kinda wished they'd gone for an orgional story not tied to the original like they do with every GTA, with some hints and missions tied to the previous. It's a great game, but it really isn't the perfect game everyone is saying it is, and for me isn't even the best open world game (Witcher 3 still holds that, everything in that game was as close to perfect as a game gets)

For me the original Red Dead is still the better game overall, but this is still a great game worth everyone's time. I'm probably just being harsh.

thelastdisciple
10-30-2018, 11:36 PM
I'm not the biggest fan of all the stuff they added that you have to babysit, things like your health, stamina and deadeye cores, your horse's cores. You have to oil your guns to have them function better, groom your horse and give them pats.

I think this has taken on too many gameplay elements from survival and crafting games.

Louie_Cypher
10-30-2018, 11:42 PM
heard conrols were a bitch
-louie

Space Suicide
10-31-2018, 06:40 AM
I'm not the biggest fan of all the stuff they added that you have to babysit, things like your health, stamina and deadeye cores, your horse's cores. You have to oil your guns to have them function better, groom your horse and give them pats.

I think this has taken on too many gameplay elements from survival and crafting games.

I appreciate those elements present but there comes a point where it’s tiresome to check and stock stuff to make sure you’re at 100%.

kdrcraig
11-01-2018, 09:18 AM
I'm also not a huge fan of having to eat and feed your horse to keep your cores up, guess it's a minor gripe though. Game is definitely beautiful and there's plenty going on in the open world. I think I'm still only in Chapter 3 so I have a long ways to go just in the story. Keep getting sidetracked by the massive amount of crap you can do.

Haysey_Draws
11-01-2018, 10:33 AM
I've all but given up on hunting! It was fun at first but the fact each animal has varying levels of fur quality you need to look for on top of having to kill them the right way just to get the perfect pelts that, if my games anything to go by, disappear if you hold them too long (i know the meat goes off, but the pelt?!?) has all but made hunting not fun. Getting the legendary animals is fine as it doesn't matter how you kill them, just regular hunting (only killing for the meat now, sod the pelts!) I'm well into chapter 3 and the side quests are still super fun, story is still so so. Oh and why does my weapon load-out keep changing EVERY TIME i get off my horse? I have 2 great rifles but the game keeps making me run back to my horse to pick them as it gives me either the weapons i don't want or no side arms!

...i get the feeling this game would have been so much better if they'd just trimmed some of these overly finicky mechanics!

october_midnight
11-01-2018, 06:29 PM
Feels like I've dumped in a pantload of hours in to this thing. I check progress before logging off, still only: story - 39% and overall completion 51%. Fuck my life.

Conan The Barbarian
11-02-2018, 07:48 AM
I've all but given up on hunting! It was fun at first but the fact each animal has varying levels of fur quality you need to look for on top of having to kill them the right way just to get the perfect pelts that, if my games anything to go by, disappear if you hold them too long (i know the meat goes off, but the pelt?!?) has all but made hunting not fun. Getting the legendary animals is fine as it doesn't matter how you kill them, just regular hunting (only killing for the meat now, sod the pelts!) I'm well into chapter 3 and the side quests are still super fun, story is still so so. Oh and why does my weapon load-out keep changing EVERY TIME i get off my horse? I have 2 great rifles but the game keeps making me run back to my horse to pick them as it gives me either the weapons i don't want or no side arms!

...i get the feeling this game would have been so much better if they'd just trimmed some of these overly finicky mechanics!

I only hunt to provide food for the camp. When I start a fresh day, usually start with camp business then go and do my own thing.

Kodiak33
11-02-2018, 07:48 AM
Still happy with it? I haven't played much at all...

Haysey_Draws
11-02-2018, 08:22 AM
Oh i'm definitely happy with the game, it's still very very good. My complaints aren't stopping me enjoying it, i'm just a bit miffed with the story and clunky mechanics, if they been better this would have been one of the best games this generation! As it stands it's just a very good 8/10 game and one of the better ones this year, which isn't all that bad.

Substance242
11-02-2018, 10:07 AM
Gaz Williams (musician) on Sonicstate podcast was talking about how amazing the music is in this:
https://youtu.be/zKxnkRqJu3k?t=3674

Rdm
11-11-2018, 11:22 AM
Man these graphics are way better than any other game I’ve played on a console . The game it self I’m not sold yet, we’ll see.

loopcloses
11-11-2018, 03:35 PM
Game is brilliant in a whole lot of ways but Rockstar, as usual, keeps getting in its own way.

Firstly, I'll say that the gameplay teasers really overstayed how interactive the game's NPCs are. I don't really blame them for this, because there's a ton of NPCs in this game, but the vast majority of NPCs I've encountered have been called "Stranger" with no indication that they've got their own story or even names I could learn, just a small amount of canned greeting dialogue. It's not comparable at all to a game like Bully or even Skyrim in terms of making every NPC feel like a potentially meaningful character.

And Skyrim brings me to the rest of my main issue--this game should be more of an RPG. Not necessarily in the sense that I want leveling up and any of that stuff, but there's a distinct lack of freedom when you're in any kind of mission that contrasts so starkly with the open world gameplay, it makes most of your hijinks feel completely noncanon. The best example would be a game like Fallout New Vegas. I remember fairly early into that game, some dude starts causing trouble in a saloon. Game logic told me I could talk to the bar keep after he left and learn about who he was, and it'd somehow lead to a questline.

So instead of doing that, I walk up behind him and shoot him in the head, and... the game just continues. The other characters comment on the trouble I've just brought my way taking out a gang member, and the story goes down this path rather than the one it could have if I'd dealt with it differently. That freedom to control the narrative and who my character was, reacting to situations in different ways, is intoxicating.

Here, early on, me and my pal happen across a bear during a hunting mission. Arthur comments on all the meat on him, but the other guy warns off it. So naturally, I get off my horse and put several bullets in the bear's head before it mauls me to death while the other guy reacts in bewildered shock at my stupidity. That's all good and fine, that's hilarious. But... to reward me for my experimentation, I get to spend another five minutes walking back to that spot with the bear listening to the same dialogue. And this is true throughout the game. Any time you're in a mission, your agency largely goes out the window as Rockstar worked hard on this story and you have to play it exactly how they intended it. If one of your buddies dies, it's game over. Do anything to blow the mission, game over, try again. I'd be so much more interested in being able to be unsuccessful in a mission and deal with the fallout (no pun intended) instead of returning to checkpoints that are altogether too far apart.

And another gripe, piggybacking off of that: like every recent R* game, there is TOO MUCH fuckin' time spent walking and listening to dialogue. I don't mind the lack of fast travel, that's to be expected, but for fuck's sake, let me make my own way to the mission area and THEN start the mission. I almost dread doing any mission because I know it's going to start with several minutes of holding X while looking at my phone and listening to Rockstar's usually mediocre dialogue, and God forbid I do anything fun in that time because if I do anything that upsets the mission parameters I have to start over. This has been a problem all the way back to GTAIV and unfortunately there's zero incentive for them to ever change it because they're still making a ton of money and almost no critics are willing to actually be critical of their games. I am grateful that at least you can autopilot these parts, so I'm not accidentally getting into a car accident and spooking my date.

All that said, the game is really really good when you're finally on your own. The shooting still sucks but it's well established that R* has no clue how to do shooting, and it's not that big of a deal. The world is vast and there's a ton to do, and dynamic enough gameplay that there's a ton of room for experimentation.

Haysey_Draws
11-12-2018, 05:53 AM
Right i'm through to the post game content so here are my final thoughts on it (i'll spoiler what needs to be spoiler)

Firstly, if your still playing the game DO NOT TO THE TREASURE HUNTS/WORRY ABOUT GETTING CASH UNTIL YOUR REACH THE EPILOGUE CHAPTERS, trust me. Also you don't really need to worry about the side missions either as they continue as well.

Right onto the meat, the game...the game is good, but far from great. For as much fun i have in the wild doing my own i'm also constantly being pissed off by the games unnecessary mechanics! I do not want to have to keep cleaning my guns and brushing my fucking horse every 5 mins. I was hoping you'd be able to unlock some skills so you wouldn't have to worry about this but nope, your stuck with them. Also the clunky nature of the player character when just trying to pick up stuff was realistic at first but is FRUSTRATING hours into the game. Also back to guns for a second...fuck off R*! I get you wanted some realism by having your guns on your horse, but having your side arms reset when you do anything is A FUCKING PAIN! Let me choose a default side weapon at least and stop giving me side weapons i don't use/none at all. Lastly we need to go into spoilers...

Some of you will remember i was moaning about not being able to play as a more interesting character and this gets sorted in the post game by playing as John Fucking Marston! FUCK YEAH! But it also makes the whole 6 chapters i just played through pointless!
Authur Morgan was a dull character i just never was able to get invested into, especially once you realise he is dying at the end of chapter 3 (at this point i didn't bother giving him any experience toxins or hair cuts/new clothes because what was the point?) The story missions are also so fucking restrictive and just story dumps mostly, i can honestly say i didn't enjoy ANY of the main story missions (the side missions however are a fucking riot!) and what was the point of the camps? We knew most of the characters were either going to die or not be around anymore but why make the upgrading the camps a big deal only to then completely remove them post game? Why did i bother upgrading them...to waste game time i guess?

All in all i'm enjoying the post game more then the actual game...well the story at least. The side missions are just freaking great, would i reply it?...no. I have no intention of ever replaying this story, ever! If it does come to PC i'll mod the game so it starts from the Epilogue and do all the fun side missions and activities (and remove the horse brushing!) but i don't want to reply this story, it just wasn't very good and the missions weren't very fun to play.

It's a good game, with excellent graphics, voice acting and some fun gameplay, held back from being truly great by a weak story we already knew the ending to and clunky, unnecessary mechanics. 7/10.

Frozen Beach
11-18-2018, 01:11 PM
I honestly love this game and don't have an issue with some the mechanics like some people in this thread. My one issue is the bounty system is a bit ridiculous considering you can be defending yourself in a gun fight that you didn't initiate, which leads to you being reported for murder. Even if it's realistic that an NPC can misconstrue the situation, it's still unfair. But I love the shooting in this game, better than GTA 5. I don't think they'll ever top the gunplay in Max Payne 3 though, which was the best part of that game.

kdrcraig
11-19-2018, 07:18 AM
I finished the story over the weekend and I'm pretty meh about the whole thing. I didn't like Arthur at all until the last few hours of the story, made it kind of hard to give a shit about what was happening. In general I thought the game was way too long, especially when it turns out none of it really mattered anyway. They could've seriously trimmed some fat from the story missions.

The game world itself is incredible, the amount of different animals is overwhelming. No way I'm gonna spend the time to study and skin them all. I'm gonna finish up what stranger missions I have left and then trade this in.

Haysey_Draws
11-19-2018, 07:27 AM
Right so i'm getting all i can from the post game as my internet will be out for god knows how long (finding all the collectables like dino bones and what have you) and i've noticed some...creepy things.

First i went back to one of the old camps and some ominous music started playing, and then i started hearing whispers and i freaked out for a second before i realised it was dialog from the old crew (which is why it was playing at the old camp). Then when i was in the Heartlands i camped and slept til midday in my dino bone hunt, and when i'd taken down the camp i noticed something on one of the clifs looking down on me...a guy on a horse. This was a fair distance away and i'd just about got my binoculars out just as they turned around a rode off. By the time i got up there they were gone. Now this was creepy for a few reasons. First it was far enough away that i doubt the game would have bothered spawning in a random NPC, second was there was no track or camp at the top of this cliff (every NPC i have seen has either followed the roads on horse back unless provoked or sat at a camp, so there was no reason for an NPC TO BE AT THIS CLIFF EDGE!) And third, it seemed like they were looking down AT ME! Then rode off as i tried to look at them. I know there are some spooky easter eggs in this game but this was real creepy! And i can't find ANYTHING online of others having had it happen!

october_midnight
11-19-2018, 12:11 PM
Whoa that's crazy. You'd have to think that they have so much hidden shit in this game that they're just waiting for people to find...while I wait for Red Dead Online I've been going around as well doing the same, from Bigfoot to the serial killer, there's a ton of shit to keep us all busy lol.

Haysey_Draws
11-19-2018, 03:37 PM
There's a small collection of some spooky stuff here...

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2018/11/19/red-dead-redemption-2-players-keep-finding-creepy-easter-eggs

Most of which i haven't even found! I have found those pale bastards though, freaked me the fuck out! And a 'wolfman'.

Kodiak33
11-19-2018, 06:08 PM
Wow that's actually really awesome.

october_midnight
11-19-2018, 09:05 PM
Holy shit there's a ton! Fuckin' ghost train, are you kidding me?

Space Suicide
11-19-2018, 10:14 PM
Holy shit there's a ton! Fuckin' ghost train, are you kidding me?

My co-worker found it on accident weeks ago and showed me. It's so cool.

Wretchedest
11-20-2018, 12:17 AM
This game is good and the whole is better than the sum of it's parts.



The combat and controls sucks and, no, this does not facilitate any sense of realism
As someone mentioned earlier the story needed a lot of the fat trimmed, it's a lot more Zack Snyder than Sergio Leone. Especially egregious is a section in the begining of chapter 5, an absolutely ridiculous point in the story that escalates way beyond co trols and undermines any sense of immersion the story has cultivated.

Buried beneath all of the padding and shoddily written, stupid distracting side quests and tutorial mission is an excellent story that, much like the Last Jedi, is really about watching and escalating series of terrible mistakes and how things fall apart, it's about fate and hubris and it's excellent. This story is additionally wounded by bizarre pacing and the way that a lot it's best most dramatic moments undercut each other. For a game with a lot of space and long transportation sections, somehow a lot of the drama doesn't have room to breathe. All of the quiet that makes westerns like "Once Upon a Time in the West" great, is instead filled with noise. Constant, bullshit noise.


For all of the apparently hundred hour work weeks, there is time that could have been saved in a game where less would have been a hell of a lot more. They could have spent less time on horse testicles and more time making more engaging combat with responsive controls. They could have cut out that whole Cuba section and someone could have had more time with their family.

Sadie, by the way, would have made a very compelling protagonist. She has a much more interesting arc than arthur, and one that even better parallels Dutch's arc, which is super well written btw. We're left with another male led rockstar game instead, even the option would have at least felt a little modern. They missed a huge opportunity with her.

Like I said, whole is better than the sum of it's parts, but we are left with a much above average open world adventure game mired in the sensibilities and gameplay of ten years past.

richardp
11-20-2018, 12:35 AM
I never want this game to end. I can't tell what is more fun, the actual story, or going on week long camping expeditions in the insanely enormous map. What an incredible game.

Haysey_Draws
11-20-2018, 02:24 AM
This game is good and the whole is better than the sum of it's parts.



The combat and controls sucks and, no, this does not facilitate any sense of realism
As someone mentioned earlier the story needed a lot of the fat trimmed, it's a lot more Zack Snyder than Sergio Leone. Especially egregious is a section in the begining of chapter 5, an absolutely ridiculous point in the story that escalates way beyond co trols and undermines any sense of immersion the story has cultivated.

Buried beneath all of the padding and shoddily written, stupid distracting side quests and tutorial mission is an excellent story that, much like the Last Jedi, is really about watching and escalating series of terrible mistakes and how things fall apart, it's about fate and hubris and it's excellent. This story is additionally wounded by bizarre pacing and the way that a lot it's best most dramatic moments undercut each other. For a game with a lot of space and long transportation sections, somehow a lot of the drama doesn't have room to breathe. All of the quiet that makes westerns like "Once Upon a Time in the West" great, is instead filled with noise. Constant, bullshit noise.


For all of the apparently hundred hour work weeks, there is time that could have been saved in a game where less would have been a hell of a lot more. They could have spent less time on horse testicles and more time making more engaging combat with responsive controls. They could have cut out that whole Cuba section and someone could have had more time with their family.

Sadie, by the way, would have made a very compelling protagonist. She has a much more interesting arc than arthur, and one that even better parallels Dutch's arc, which is super well written btw. We're left with another male led rockstar game instead, even the option would have at least felt a little modern. They missed a huge opportunity with her.

Like I said, whole is better than the sum of it's parts, but we are left with a much above average open world adventure game mired in the sensibilities and gameplay of ten years past.

I have to agree, i would have much preferred Sadie to Arthur! She was probably my fav character in the whole game. I expect she, along with Charles and a few other characters still around at the end will be in the online mode to hand out missions much like GTA 5 had characters from the story to give us things to do.

At least the fucking around looking for Easter eggs in the open world makes up for the meh story for me. And yes that WHOLE chapter 5 didn't need to happen!

thelastdisciple
11-20-2018, 02:33 AM
You guys take any bad ass pics? Here's one of mine.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsUC1USWsAE9vic.jpg

Haysey_Draws
11-20-2018, 02:39 AM
You guys take any bad ass pics? Here's one of mine.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsUC1USWsAE9vic.jpg:large

Funny story, i didn't notice you had a camera until an early mission in Valentine. When you take the girls from camp in town and someone recognises you from Blakcwater, you then chase him and he falls from a cliff but is hanging on. When i got off my horse, with the guy hanging on for dear life, i noticed "wow, this is a nice view, wish i could take a picture" then remembered there was a camera feature.
I went through the scroll wheel and got out the camera...then noticed it had a selfie mode. So i start taking poses whilst this guy is still screaming for help, i was laughing so hard i took too long and he fell to his death...which was even funnier given the circumstances. And i still passed the mission!
Can't share any pictures though, i still have no internet :mad:

Wretchedest
11-20-2018, 02:49 AM
Does it bug anyone else he only takes one drag? Lol I'm so picky

october_midnight
12-12-2018, 12:42 PM
https://scontent.fcxh3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/48051497_1944867895822422_6847788705898299392_n.pn g?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent.fcxh3-1.fna&oh=7c493d022a63df0bb54c5d05a5eab11e&oe=5C8EFE65

bRoot
02-08-2019, 02:38 PM
Can someone please short and concisely summarize the game for me as one big ::spoiler:: (preferably in parts? I have no way the concentration/dedicated and drive to play ALL the way through like I used to, plus Ive moved on from Rockstar to Square Enix and Bethesda) Btw I have the GOTY and Zombie Expansion.

(My ps3 is a bit old, the slim version (for me) has a slightly broken cd/dvd/blueray "door" so it is somewhat problematic.)

While we are on this game Imma just post this -> http://www.cheatcc.com/ps3/reddeadredemptioncheatscodes.html

and this -> https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps3/957923-red-dead-redemption/cheats


By the way, any other western games you or others play that I might not know of?

wizfan
12-31-2020, 09:50 PM
I edited this for a friend. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF2sXVfM4EY