Arrested Development

[lebruit]

Let's hope it's for real this time. Wiki info for the oblivious:

Revival of television series

The entire cast reunited for a panel at The New Yorker Festival in New York on October 2, 2011. At the panel, Hurwitz announced his intention of doing a truncated fourth season as a lead-in to the film, which would consist of 9–10 episodes each focusing on a single character. At the event Hurwitz explained that Fox had not committed to producing any new episodes but would be involved in negotiations, as they continue to hold certain rights to the series. It was later been reported that Showtime, as well as online streaming services Hulu and Netflix have expressed interest in producing the show. In November 2011, Netflix was confirmed as the distributor of new episodes for an early 2013 debut. It is unclear whether this will be a truncated season as Hurwitz initially announced at the festival.

[theruiner]

Oh, it's real this time. I'm sure of it. Netflix wouldn't have announced it if it wasn't a done deal.

Can't wait. Part of me thinks that maybe they ended the show perfectly and they should leave it alone. But then another part of me (the part that won) just wants to see the Bluths in action again. I just hope the series and movie can live up to the original run.

And the movie! Dear God, we're going to all be watching the Bluths on the big screen. That is going to be incredible. Midnight showing for sure.

[johnbron]

I've watched this series from beginning to end at least half a dozen times and it never gets old. This recent news has me pretty excited. Really hoping they don't fuck it up and that the entire cast agrees to return.

[icklekitty]

I have copies of this show loaded on 4 different electronic devices and I have it on DVD. If someone messes this up there will be war.

[theruiner]

If someone messes this up, icklekitty will do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNRUjnp-5Rw

[icklekitty]

Someone's Charlie Browns will be in trouble, that's for sure.

[theruiner]

I can be your wing man! Even if it means me taking a chubby, I will suck it up.

[slave2thewage]

Oh, mercy me! I forgot that we were in the colonies.

[theruiner]

I'm a monster!!!

[Harry Seaward]

This is without question the best TV series I've ever watched. I will blue myself with joy when new episodes (AND A MOVIE?!?!?) come out.

[Collin]

One of the smartest shows ever written. Pumped for the revivial!

[heroicraptor]

HOLY FUCK (http://fuckyeaharresteddevelopment.tumblr.com/post/13927482682/nickdouglas-totallymorgan-jokes-are-still)

this is amazing.

[icklekitty]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_FefWkeQT4

[icklekitty]

HuffPo Interview with Ron Howard (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/25/ron-howard-arrested-development-youtube-future_n_1229455.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003) has this bit on AD:


You're doing "Arrested Development" on Netflix, not TV, and that's another new platform. Why did you make that choice?
As the years passed, [series creator] Mitch Hurwitz began exploring where each of the characters would have gone. He wanted audiences to understand what their journeys had been, but he didn't want to express it in a joke or a sight gag. He actually wanted to let people know what had happened to each of the Bluths. And he's got such hilarious individual threads and story lines that the idea of doing ten half hours first, to get people caught up, became really a fresh idea, and a fresh way of building the audience of "Arrested Development," first for the movie and from there, who knows? At first, we didn't know who would distribute it.I feel like all the mediums are blending. I continue to be interested in the possibility of "Dark Tower" functioning in a movie version and a television version. If I get to do "Dark Tower," there's also a video game element that would be a part of flushing out the narrative of the Stephen King universe. I think it's time to be adventuresome, be bold, and sort of explore the ways in which people want to experience characters, relationships, settings and situations.

[theruiner]

...and a fresh way of building the audience of "Arrested Development," first for the movie and from there, who knows?Cue geeks everywhere speculating on what that means, when really it was a throwaway line that meant nothing and will go nowhere.

On the other hand, who would have thought the show would be coming back in any form, let alone TV and a movie. So maybe they will bring the show back. I think that would be pushing it (and, truthfully, I'm still not completely convinced bringing it back at all is a good idea...but I'm still excited in spite of myself) but who knows. If it turns out to be great then that would be awesome. If it turns out to be ok, or it sucks, then we're all going to wish they'd left it where it was.

[Broadbent]

Anyong............

[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

I finally caught up with this show over the last two months on the flix, and man were people completely right about this show. It is the funniest show I have ever watched on television. The characters, the comedy (gold), and narration is so well set up, it makes you laugh even when you aren't expecting to. Tobias and Gob just steal the show even though every character is pretty dam strong. I was super excited to hear that more episodes and a movie will be coming out. It says on Wiki that all the characters will reprise their roles so that is going to be cool seeing all of them a little more grown up and in different situations. In the third season you can kind of tell how the show started to change a bit, but I think they left out on a high note. This is going to be fantastic.

[october_midnight]

Entire writing team, staff, and cast confirms FULL new season and movie. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/30/arrested-development-new-episodes-cast_n_1241409.html?ref=tv-canada)

[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

Entire writing team, staff, and cast confirms FULL new season and movie. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/30/arrested-development-new-episodes-cast_n_1241409.html?ref=tv-canada)


Fuck yes! Been waiting for an official statement since October. I knew the full cast was there to sign up and come back, but it is really cool to see them all together again. I predict the new season won't miss a step. Plus, a movie? 2013 cannot come soon enough!

[theruiner]

^^Well, I think the official statement came out months ago about the show, but what we didn't have before was confirmation that the original writers were coming back. So that's great news.

[icklekitty]

That seems to prove what an outstanding show this is. It's not often ALL the original cast and crew want to be involved in the revival.

[theruiner]

^^
It really is. It is one of the best shows ever made. That phrase gets thrown around a lot, but Arrested is one of the few shows that really does deserve it.

[sentient02970]

I know it's a good show when I find myself laughing out loud just thinking about it. Typically the first thing to hit my head is the "Big Yellow Joint" song.

[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

I know it's a good show when I find myself laughing out loud just thinking about it. Typically the first thing to hit my head is the "Big Yellow Joint" song.

The first thing that comes to me is when Gob gets on stage in his performances and how excited and into it he gets. I love when he puts the cloth on his face :)

[jessamineny]

Just started watching this. Totally reminds me of Soap.

[theruiner]

So...now they're talking spin-offs? (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/9200476/Arrested-Development-series-and-film-will-shoot-this-summer.html) Bad idea. Really bad idea.

[carpenoctem]

How crazy awesome would it be if Arrested Development gets legitimately resurrected like Family Guy or Futurama, based on the hype surrounding the new season and movie and the inevitable jump in DVD sales?

Just started re-watching this by the way. I am determined to finally make it to season three, as every time I start watching I get waylaid and never finish season two.

Also, is Ron Howard returning to narrate? Wouldn't be the same without him.

[theruiner]

How crazy awesome would it be if Arrested Development gets legitimately resurrected like Family Guy or Futurama, based on the hype surrounding the new season and movie and the inevitable jump in DVD sales?As long as the show is just as good as it was, then I'd be all for this. The worst thing that could happen, though, is it comes back and is a ghost of its former self. Plus, shows only have so much of a shelf life before things start to go off the rails (I'm looking at you, The Simpsons). So even if they did come back officially (beyond this mini-season and movie next year), it would probably be wise to only make another season or two and then call it a day. Why risk going on too long and the show deteriorating in quality?

But anyway, I just really hope, whatever happens, that this spin-off idea never gets off the ground. Bringing the show back the way it was might turn out ok, but doing a spin-off would be a disaster, I think.


Just started re-watching this by the way. I am determined to finally make it to season three, as every time I start watching I get waylaid and never finish season two.Season three wasn't quite as strong as the first two seasons, but it was still really good (a "not quite strong" season of AD > most other shows' best seasons).


Also, is Ron Howard returning to narrate? Wouldn't be the same without him.That's a really good question. I don't think they've addressed that yet. They damn well better bring him back. What would AD be without Ron Howard's narration? That'd be like George Michael without the awkwardness. Lucille without her sense of entitlement. Tobias without his cut offs! It just would not work.

Oh, and they'd better bring back Lucille 2, that BITCH.

[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

As long as the show is just back... that's all I care about. I just watched season 1 and 2 over again and it just gets funnier.

[theruiner]

Netflix says all ten new episodes will be posted all at once, no waiting. (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2012/04/mitchell-hurwitz-arrested-development-netflix.html)

My favorite part of the article:

Hurwitz said that though his initial conception of the fourth season was to do it as an anthology, with each character getting his or her own episode, the current incarnation is closer to the style of the first three seasons.
Awesome! I'm glad they're going with the original style instead of "each episode focuses on one character."

Well, I, for one, am excited about this news. All I have to say is, I'm afraid I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run, if you will, so now I'm afraid I have something of a mess on my hands.


Also, from this article (http://www.slashfilm.com/mitch-hurwitz-talks-arrested-development-netflix-hints-possibility-additional-seasons/#more-125362):

Hurwitz and the cast teased the possibility of a fifth or sixth season, also on Netflix.

Am I...dreaming? Is that for real? Holy shit.

[GibbonBlack]

http://www.jest.com/video/164707/bluthex-for-arrested-development-anxiety

[theruiner]

^^That line about season three is spot on.

[theruiner]

I was bored, so I threw on an episode, and I have to say, I think "Good Grief" might be the best episode of the entire series. So many great moments in that episode, from Buster's "army" costume ("it's all regulation, Michael") to Gob's trick which, of course, doesn't go as planned, to one of the best lines of the series: "Hey...who the fuck ate my hard-boiled eggs?!"

[Jord]

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/news/a395924/jason-bateman-tweets-pics-from-set-of-arrested-development-photos.html

holy motherboy of god.

[Leman Russ]

http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/news/a395924/jason-bateman-tweets-pics-from-set-of-arrested-development-photos.html

holy motherboy of god.

Him?

Can't fucking wait for the new eps & movie. I almost blue myself in anticipation

[Zipfinator]

Him?

Can't fucking wait for the new eps & movie. I almost blue myself in anticipation

There's gotta be a better way to say that...

[Leman Russ]

There's gotta be a better way to say that...

Oh Zipfinator, you old blowhard

[icklekitty]

Summary of guest stars so far: http://gothamist.com/2012/09/14/arrested_development_getting_tons_m.php

[Fixer808]

Watch out for hop-ons... You're gonna get a lot of hop-ons.

[Conan The Barbarian]

So I have been quoting Gob allot at work, mainly the suit quotes.I went to give a guy an oatmeal when I said that I didnt want it to spill on my 6100 dollar suit. The customer and I yelled out "Come on!" in perfect sync. I rewarded him with free oatmeal.


By the way, are we still getting a movie or just a new season?

[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

Gobs lines are the greatest. As far as it goes now the movie is still on.

[Torgo]

I've seen way too many spoilers already by accident by people posting on set photos.

So - yes, they are filming for a television season and a movie. Either that - or MY LIFE IS A GIANT LIE.

[millionmilesaway]

have just gotten into this series, halfway through season 3 Bob Loblaw is my new favorite name

[Zipfinator]

have just gotten into this series, halfway through season 3 Bob Loblaw is my new favorite name

Bob Loblaw's Law Blog.

[eversonpoe]

Bob Loblaw's Law Blog.

"You, sir, are a mouthful!"

[theruiner]

We're not here to talk nonsense to Bob Loblaw.

[Piko]

"That's no trick, michael..."

Next week on Arrested Development.

"Its my illusion!".

Poor Tobius...

[Leman Russ]

Summary of guest stars so far: http://gothamist.com/2012/09/14/arrested_development_getting_tons_m.php

I'm pumped that Egg is coming back. The jokes are her expense were my favorite part of the series.

[theimage13]

I'm pumped that Egg is coming back.

Her?

(damn you, ETS character limit)

[Leman Russ]

Her?

Who?

You couldn't pick her out of a lineup of one

[icklekitty]

Given how Mae Whitman has turned out (see: Parenthood) it would be fun if Bland returned as an uber-cool guitar chick that crushes George Michael Cera's esteem.

And then he starts wearing cut-offs.

[Leman Russ]

Given how Mae Whitman has turned out (see: Parenthood) it would be fun if Bland returned as an uber-cool guitar chick that crushes George Michael Cera's esteem.

And then he starts wearing cut-offs.

He would have to have self esteem to begin with (gotta work on that boy's self esteem!).

[theruiner]

He would have to have self esteem to begin with (gotta work on that boy's self esteem!).Maybe he needs glasses.

[imail724]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m77hq3MLDd1rt219ro1_500.png
so subtle/so hilarious

[Leman Russ]

http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2012/09/04/301468.jpg

Barry & Bob...love it

[imail724]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbdges9USq1qd4rf5o1_500.jpg

[Fixer808]

Lucille looks hot.

[eversonpoe]

Lucille looks hot.

you mean still looks hot. she's been a babe forever. i love it when people allow themselves to age and still look damn good (like her & helen mirren).

[sayyosin]

Can't wait for the new season/movie! I fucking love this show.

[Conan The Barbarian]

I dont know if anyone has seen this. Older maybe is yummy.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbc7ulS8h71qcm16uo1_1280.jpg

[theruiner]

Oh, fuck, yeah! (http://www.avclub.com/articles/carl-weathers-added-to-arrested-development-someth,87669/)

[carpenoctem]

She looks very Arabic in that photo. She's grown into quite the woman. Michael Cera, on the other hand, pretty much looks like he hasn't changed at all.

[Leman Russ]

Oh, fuck, yeah! (http://www.avclub.com/articles/carl-weathers-added-to-arrested-development-someth,87669/)

I'd say it's time to get a stew going

[Zipfinator]

I'd say it's time to get a stew going

I think I'd like my money back...

[Leman Russ]

Every time I hear someone say "4 more years" when speaking of Obama, I want to throw my arms in the air and yell "STEVE HOLT!".

[sentient02970]

I've been perfecting my Gob's clapping chicken for the past couple of weeks. I think I've finally worked out the intricacies of his motions along with the verbalized "Caw-Ca-CAW!" My 10 year old is impressed but still asks what kind of bird that is.

[Leman Russ]

It's obvious nobody in your family has ever actually seen a chicken

[Conan The Barbarian]

I've been perfecting my Gob's clapping chicken for the past couple of weeks. I think I've finally worked out the intricacies of his motions along with the verbalized "Caw-Ca-CAW!" My 10 year old is impressed but still asks what kind of bird that is.
Get everyone to study the other family members dances.


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[frankie teardrop]

cha-chi. cha-chi. cookoo ca chai! cookoo ca chai!

[theruiner]

May 4, 2013 (http://www.slashfilm.com/arrested-development-release-date-episode-titles-revealed/)

[ambergris]

May 4, 2013 (http://www.slashfilm.com/arrested-development-release-date-episode-titles-revealed/)

14 episodes!

[theruiner]

cha-chi. cha-chi. cookoo ca chai! cookoo ca chai!
Has anyone in this family ever even seen a chicken?

[slave2thewage]

I'm saddened that Tobias and Lucille aren't getting two-part episodes.

[icklekitty]

Time to look into a NetFlix subscription!

[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

I'm saddened that Tobias and Lucille aren't getting two-part episodes.

Yes, I too was disappointed upon reading the episode list. Who knows though, they said that all the character will be in each others stories so we will see.

[slave2thewage]

Time to look into a NetFlix subscription!
You get a month free so sign up at the end of April!

[theruiner]

http://i.imgur.com/7sutXoo.jpg?1?5189

Yup. From the new season. More here (scroll to the bottom). (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/21/arrested-development-cast-sacrifices-season-4_n_2924665.html#slide=20235290)

[ambergris]

http://i.imgur.com/7sutXoo.jpg?1?5189

Yup. From the new season. More here (scroll to the bottom). (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/21/arrested-development-cast-sacrifices-season-4_n_2924665.html#slide=20235290)

Portia De Rossi's face looks... different.

[Conan The Barbarian]

Holy shit, it does.

[Vertigo]

I didn't even realise that was her...

[theruiner]

Well, to be fair, that's not her real nose.

[mfte]

bad surgery of the plastic kind. I wonder if Ellen made her do it.

[eversonpoe]

bad surgery of the plastic kind. I wonder if Ellen made her do it.

i don't think she's actually had plastic surgery (the comment above yours is a joke in reference to the show) and why would ellen, of all people, "make" her do it?

i think she's just making a weird face and her eyebrows are plucked way more than they used to be.

[kdrcraig]

Yeah it's just a bad shot, she looks like herself in another picture on that site.

[GibbonBlack]

she looks like she could star in a live action version of Dark Cyrstal

[mfte]

and why would ellen, of all people, "make" her do it?



because she made me do it while i was dating her

[slave2thewage]

Season 4 is now 15 episodes, but has been pushed back to May 26th :(

Source: https://www.facebook.com/ArrestedDevelopment

[Findus]

she looks like she could star in a live action version of Dark Cyrstal

The Dark Crystal is​ already live action. I know what you're saying, though. Very Kira-ish.

[imail724]

Season 4 is now 15 episodes, but has been pushed back to May 26th :(

Source: https://www.facebook.com/ArrestedDevelopment

What was it originally?

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[slave2thewage]

What was it originally?
They were talking about twelve at the start, then thirteen (I think) were mentioned in the media during filming, then fourteen were announced a few months ago.

[theruiner]

http://i.imgur.com/G150lJV.jpg

[icklekitty]

That would be better if they used Mr Bananagrabber

[GibbonBlack]

That would be better if they used Mr Bananagrabber



They probably had some issues with the likeness rights

[ambergris]

Release of an outtake which tells quite a bit about what happened after the finale, so maybe a little spoiler-y:

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/04/25/arrested-development-buster-lucille/#disqus_thread

[orestes]

First trailer! (http://timetoputonashow.tumblr.com/post/50304525342/first-trailer-for-arrested-development-season-4)

[slave2thewage]

Youtube version for those, like me, that have problems with video on Tumblr:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfU2Td_MMf0

[frankie teardrop]

just got back from the frozen banana stand setup outside radio city in manhattan. line was WAY too long to bother (bananas were package treats, not as fresh/tasty as they looked in the show), but we snapped a few photos. no cast members there, but we did see someone with a "mr. manager" nametag.

[ambergris]

It will be impossible for them to fulfill my expectations, but I have to say that, with the possible disappointment in mind, the trailer was better than I expected. stares/stairs, ha! They haven't run out of puns.

[Conan The Barbarian]

That trailer always gets me pumped . let's do this!!!!

[BrokenSpiral]

I had quite the opposite reaction to that trailer. Kinda underwhelmed me.

[theruiner]

^^Same. The 'lupus' line was the only thing that made me laugh. Nothing else even made me smile. And what's up with Buster? Between the trailer and the clip we saw, I'm wondering if he can even form sentences anymore.

Anyway, that being said, trailers can be deceiving. I wasn't crazy about it but I'm still excited to see the new season. I'm skeptical, but cautiously optimistic.

[Vertigo]

Arrested Development's humour was mostly based on escalating farce and separate, innocuous entities coming together. The scene that made me laugh the most in all the series was the culmination of the showhouse tour for the Japanese investors, and that sequence wouldn't have one iota of its comedy value if viewed outside the context of the rest of the episode.

So I'm not worried by the trailer, though it's a shame they couldn't find any quick gags to throw on there. Might have been a better idea to show a full scene, they're not going to win any new fans with that trailer.

[slave2thewage]

The "night terrors" line was amazing.

[blackholesun]

I thought the trailer was funny. But again, it's just a minute and half trailer. Nothing to go by really. Loved the throwback to the cornballer with the taxi door.

[johnbron]

http://insertmeanywhere.biz

[Zipfinator]

If someone doesn't make a movie out of that I will be quite disappointed.

[icklekitty]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8euwygFyC1r1ir05.png

[ambergris]

Some more hidden jokes:
http://splitsider.com/2012/08/53-arrested-development-jokes-you-probably-missed/

I'm starting to think that every single line of dialogue in that show was part of a greater joke.

[slave2thewage]

12:01AM, PDT. You can figure out your own time zones yourself, I'm too busy trying to act like Lucille.

Edit: I MEANT SUNDAY, GAWD.

[Piko]

Wait. It starts tomorrow? Well damn... I know what I'll be doing before and after work tomorrow.

[Zipfinator]

Aren't they released on the 26th? That's what Netflix and everywhere else has been saying for weeks.

[richardp]

Yeah it's definitely the 26th

[slave2thewage]

It's now 12 hours to go. Skype party?

Edit: In case you guys didn't see, Mitch Hurwitz came out and said the episodes now have to viewed in order.

[Zipfinator]

Ball snappers. I'm trying to wait until next Friday to watch them all in a row with a big box of Krispy Kremes to eat but I do not know if I will be successful.

[Harry Seaward]

T-minus twenty minutes.

[icklekitty]

The thread on Facebook is much better

[Harry Seaward]

The thread on Facebook is much better

Huh? Link?

[theruiner]

I can already see the apologists starting to come out in force. Other than ETS and my FB friends, it might be time to avoid the internet for awhile as far as AD is concerned.

The first two episodes were pretty bad. There's the danger of being too critical and then there's the danger of just being happy with whatever we're given because it's back and I am trying not to fall into either camp. I wasn't crazy about the idea of changing the format of the show, but hey, if it's funny then that's all that matters. I just watched the first two episodes and they were not funny. The second was a chore to get through. I really, really hope it gets better from here. Maybe it just took them some time to get back into the groove, so to speak. I've heard the third episode is really good. I'm saving that one for tomorrow. Keeping my fingers crossed.

[slave2thewage]

Three episodes in, having a coffee break now. The first episode was terrible and turned Michael into THE WORST, episode 2 was a bit better (loved Dr Norman and China Garden) but the main plot was dull and the third episode was BRILLIANT. I'll just edit this throughout the day with my reactions.

Edit 1: The second Michael episode was an improvement, but had some off moments. This Tobias episode is KILLING me though. "For 2000 rupees, we'd both go down on Matthew McConaughey."

[Torgo]

Yikes. Two episodes in and this is just... awkward and not funny. It's sad, really.

Terribly lazy editing and green screens too.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for tomorrow though when I watch some more... (although I'm now not expecting too much).

[liquidcalm]

Only three episodes in.. so far the only one I've not enjoyed so much is the Lindsey one.. otherwise I've been loving it!

[slave2thewage]

Tobias: best episode so far, sad he doesn't have as many "Tobiasisms" as before though.
George Sr 2: A bit all over the place, but an improvement over the first one.

This Gob episode is quite good so far, but I've more or less just started it and it has Ann Veal so I'm happy.

[slave2thewage]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/8832c0ad4b2fa0033d7cfe985e048165/tumblr_mnekhtoDND1rvcvb1o1_500.png

I had to pause because of my laughter at this.

[Magtig]

Yeah, I'm not really feeling this either. It's kind of weird too because every episode gives me the feeling that I've seen it before. I guess that must be because they're referencing all kinds of things that I only vaguely remember? I actually had to stop it to check if I had clicked on an old episode by mistake (although, if I had it would probably be funnier).

[Conan The Barbarian]

I'm enjoying it.

[icklekitty]

The first episode was shit but it got progressively better after that. Lindsay no1, Tobias no1, and Lucille are my favourite ones so far.

Michael Bluth is a dick.

[Wretchedest]

The prpblem so far is that the structure fundamentally undermines ADs style of humor. Typically we see interceptig storylines/sublots/motivations/ miscommunications all at once. This creates the double en tendres, puns and wackiness that we as the audience understand because weve been let in on each aspect of it. By isolating characters and making each episode concurrent, this only happns in a broader sense and theyre left to other devices of humor that arent as clever.

[ambergris]

Well, I can't get Netflix in Germany. I got the Netflix website to believe I'm an American, but I still don't have an american credit card which is needed even for the trial month... And apparently torrents are coming in very slowly. I only got to watch the first episode in a noisy environment so far... Anyway, it wasn't as bad as I feared by the comments here... In fact, I thought it was rather bold. After all, Michael's triumph came when he got to dominate his family in the old series (that's why his smartphone is stuck in 2003 - it's HIS development that is arrested now.) For him, it could only get worse. And that's what we see. I think it's a pity the show wasn't on during the housing collapse (The old show was also a comment on the US society of the Bush years, so the housing collapse would have been right up their alley), and at least they show the consequences now. Perversely, I enjoyed that. The older actors take time getting used to, and I thought the humor was rather Coen-esque. There's a big difference in tone.
Oh, something else: Though some coincidence (a Huffington Post story) I thought about the TV show "Lost" again. Michael is just like Jack.

[johnbron]

I may say more about this, but after finishing the season earlier today (watching again now), I loved it. It wasn't all perfect, some story lines definitely better than others, I think it was Arrested Development all the way and I really hope to see another season.

[theruiner]

The prpblem so far is that the structure fundamentally undermines ADs style of humor. Typically we see interceptig storylines/sublots/motivations/ miscommunications all at once. This creates the double en tendres, puns and wackiness that we as the audience understand because weve been let in on each aspect of it. By isolating characters and making each episode concurrent, this only happns in a broader sense and theyre left to other devices of humor that arent as clever.Bingo. That was exactly what I was afraid of as soon as they'd announced that every episode would focus on one character. As soon as they did that, the show completely changed. It doesn't feel like AD at all. And, three episodes in, I'm really starting to get more and more bummed out.

I will say this- the last half of the Lindsay episode it started to feel a little more like "Arrested," finally. And it started to approach decent. I'm really hoping it picks up after this.

[richardp]

I only have 5 episodes left but the first GOB episode was absolutely incredible. I was in tears for like half of it. Structure feels different, but I mean after like 7 years of course it'll feel different. In real life, things would feel different after such a long period of change. I've had a few minor complaints with it, but for the most part the new season has been really fun. And the fact that we even get a new season at all is good enough for me.

[Torgo]

The thing about the new story format is that you're spending 30 minutes with this one character that was only meant to be taken in small doses. In the previous seasons, these volatile characters were presented to interact with each other, and their everyday dalliances were only meant to be smaller pieces of the whole story puzzle.

Now you're choking on a whole lotta Tobias or whoever else for 30 minutes and sometimes it's just too much (or at least - it was for me).

[orestes]

"choking on a whole lotta Tobias", heh.

[Bluegirl]

Over all I really liked it. I agree that having each character focused in a separate episode was the biggest down fall. That is particularly true because there are several story lines going on at one time. I thought the buster episode was the worst one and buster in general seemed more ridiculous and he had almost no lines in any other episode (real lines, not weird noises). Micheal seems like a far more horrible person then before. Allot of what he does seems like the sort of things Gob would do (especially at the end). But overall I thought it was good. I was not as optimistic as some about bringing the show back but they did a good job. I hope they get the kinks out next season and the episodes become more about the family then the individuals. Also some of the story lines were kind of depressing, I am not shore if others felt the same way.

[slave2thewage]

Here's a reference that I never would have gotten. This show.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/53bc09d57adde33183bdd4085ff8202d/tumblr_mngtfsatpk1qh8gbyo1_500.jpg

[johnbron]

Here's a reference that I never would have gotten. This show.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/53bc09d57adde33183bdd4085ff8202d/tumblr_mngtfsatpk1qh8gbyo1_500.jpg

Bwahahah! Seriously? Fuck I love this show.

[ambergris]

Here's a reference that I never would have gotten. This show.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/53bc09d57adde33183bdd4085ff8202d/tumblr_mngtfsatpk1qh8gbyo1_500.jpg

I wonder if the rewatch value of this new season is as high as the older ones. There are probably tons of hidden jokes, running gags and connections that will only be revealed after repeated viewings. In the first episode, there's this story about the Altitude/Attitude magazine, and the stories on the Attitude magazine cover deal with George Michael and Boy George (after they finally addressed George Michael's name!). Also, there's a mention of Tony Wonder, GOB's rival played by Ben Stiller, and his "secret". That, of course, is a reference to the gay rumors surrounding magician David Copperfield.

[Torgo]

If you read that article, there's another guy mentioned named "Perfecto Tilles" - which is the name of Maebe's high school boyfriend.

[mfte]

i don't think she's actually had plastic surgery (the comment above yours is a joke in reference to the show) and why would ellen, of all people, "make" her do it?

i think she's just making a weird face and her eyebrows are plucked way more than they used to be.

Are you still convinced she didnt have plastic surgery after watching her episode?

[eversonpoe]

Are you still convinced she didnt have plastic surgery after watching her episode?

haven't had a chance to watch any of them, yet. having a four day celebratory weekend (my fiancee proposed to me on sunday making our engagement double-official and today is our two year anniversary) but we're probably going to curl up and watch some tonight.

[icklekitty]

The show makes reference to Lindsay having had surgery. Maybe it's part of the make-up?

Isla Fisher is the worst thing in this season. I like her in general, but that accent makes me want to punch her in the face. It's a shame she's in so much of it. She sounds like one of those Americans that's obsessed with England/has lived here for so long they're anglicised.

[orestes]

Don't you mean anglicized? ;)

[Broadbent]

I loved it

It didn't feel like classic Arrested Development for me until the Gob episode when we got some great back and forth from Gob and Michael. Different feel for the show for sure, but still fucking hilarious. A lot of good running gags I wish we would have gotten more of. I was hoping the finale would have been a "Bluths" episode but it wasn't. The writing was brilliant, almost too brilliant, I found the timeline tricky to follow sometimes. Everything leads up to May 5th and the entire season spanned 4 years is the idea I got.

I also feel like a lot of things got set up and were left unresolved. Like the election or the Wall. I mean Lindsay running against Sally Sitwell was a clear cut setup.
I'm pretty sure this was a one off season, but I'd love to see another one or at least a movie.

[Wretchedest]

It did pick up pretty heavily after the first Gob episode. At that point, the audience is informed enough for the formula to work again. Also Gob is one of the few characters capable of carrying an entire episode by himself. Unlike Lindsey for instance...

I did get the impression that they intend to follow up. It doesn't seem like they can simply tie everything up with one movie.... but didn't I hear that this was the last one they intend to do?

[theruiner]

They've talked about potentially doing a couple more seasons.

[icklekitty]

http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/05/25-instantly-immortal-gifs-from-arrested-development-season-4/?showall=true

[blackholesun]

I really enjoyed the season overall. I'm on a second watch through now and I'm already noticing small things I missed before. The season definitely starts out slow, but it does pick up.

[Broadbent]

I also forgot to mention that I thought Kristen Wig played an EXCELLENT Lucille. Her impression was spot on. Seth Rogen did an excellent Seth Rogen impression for George Sr.

EDIT

I'm also 99% sure that Zack Galafanakis is sitting next to Lindsey on the plane to India...

[BrokenSpiral]

I thought her impression was decent too. A little exaggerated but she got the expressions pretty good. I could have done without Rogen.

[Bluegirl]

I the more I read about it the more I realize that there are tons of jokes I missed. I have to watch it again now.

[Piko]

Three episodes in. It's very scattered. Did they refuse to film together or something, or decide on a set amount of scenes each of them do? They all seem so limited. There's some good moments though (so far).

[Vertigo]

Three episodes in. It's very scattered. Did they refuse to film together or something, or decide on a set amount of scenes each of them do? They all seem so limited. There's some good moments though (so far).

I've heard that in a lot of the group scenes, some characters are composited in because the schedule didn't provide for them to film together. Third episode is Lindsay 1, right? I've just finished that, I found it funnier than the first two. I always felt she was underused in the series, and in my opinion she actually makes for a fun focus.

[icklekitty]

Three episodes in. It's very scattered. Did they refuse to film together or something, or decide on a set amount of scenes each of them do? They all seem so limited. There's some good moments though (so far).

Watch more, it'll make sense.

[ambergris]

So, I'm finished. Very good season, not quite as good as the first three, but it really makes fantastic sense in the end. It's like these 15 episodes were in fact just one very, very extended episode, which is why the character interaction is also sort of strecthed out. It takes some time getting used to though, and the George Sr. episodes were just not very good, lots of necessary plot, but not really funny.
And yes, it looks like they already have the second season (or movie) in mind, which would go something like this: Lindsey Bluth runs against Sally Sitwell, Lindsey Bluth is probably a Bluth after all (because she's the daughter of Lucille and Stan (?) Sitwell and Lucille explicitly said: "I'm a Bluth, you're a Bluth" Sally Sitwell maybe killed Lucille II which is why Lindsey wins in the end, the land to build the anti-mexican wall is meant to be constructed on the land of DeBrie and Mikey (or what's his name) so Tobias or Lindsey eventually get it, and so on and on.... Also, I really loved the final joke of the season, the fact that Michael only succeeds in getting one signature (Buster's) which is exactly the one needed to make Ron Howard's movie. So I guess the family is headed for better times, even though the show was quite cruel to them this time.

[Piko]

Yeah, it really is beginning to feel like a stretched out episode. Really beginning to grow on me. Tobias and Gob still remain my favorites.

[Broadbent]

Yeah, it really is beginning to feel like a stretched out episode. Really beginning to grow on me. Tobias and Gob still remain my favorites.

Gobais? as in go buy us some coffee?

[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

I will definitely have to watch this season over again... but up until the first Gob episode, the first half really fell flat for me and was very hit and miss as far as the comedy went. I really wish it was like the other seasons instead of being focused on one character. A lot of it is just.... not funny.

[sa_nick]

Seem's like everyone has similar thoughts about season 4, and I have to agree. The new format took some getting used to, or just time to work, and overall wasn't as enjoyable as the old episodes. I didn't mind it getting darker but I was kinda annoyed that it happened at the expense of Michaels character changing. I guess you could argue they've all been through a lot though...

I was always more keen on new seasons over a movie but now I'm not so sure. If a movie could get all the actors back together then I think I might like that more. The whole family dynamic is what made the first 3 seasons so great. Nothing beats seeing them all (or even just 4 of them) together in the one place, riffing off one and other.

I think my biggest laugh in this new season was when George "Maharis" Michael had his huge pause when answering a question, trying to decide how best to answer to impress Maeby. I can't think of any time I laughed harder during the season. That said, the Gobias episodes were probably my favourite.

[Piko]

I'm enjoying the season now. It took a few episodes for it to really click with me, but I like it. I really is one huge episode.

[Zipfinator]

The actor who plays Gene Parmesan also played Colonel Mustard in the Clue movie. That's where those amazing mustard and Kraft Parmesan meals come from.

As for the first episodes being weaker, I think that's just because a lot of the jokes won't land until repeated viewings (Other than the George Sr. episodes which seem kind of separated). The original AD had a lot of that (Buster's hand jokes all throughout season 2) but it seems to be a lot more prominent with how shuffled around these are. For example that huge Gob monologue 2 minutes into the first episode made no sense until you see Gob's episodes, although they spit it back in your face in that episode too which kind of ruins the fun of catching the meaning of it on a repeated viewing.

[icklekitty]

^^I've shown the original seasons to a few friends over the past year, and watching their non-plussed reactions to some things definitely enforces what you're saying here. I think people who got into the show once they hype had built up sometimes forget that nobody gave a shit about this when it was airing.


Also: http://splitsider.com/2013/05/an-encyclopedic-guide-to-the-best-callbacks-running-jokes-and-hidden-gags-in-the-new-season-of-arrested-development/

[GibbonBlack]

Was anyone else thrown by Lucilles prison number? If you turn it upside down it says 'Hello'. Once I noticed I was convinced Annyon would somehow be responsible.

[eversonpoe]

Annyong!!!

[caca]

i thought season 4 was pretty great. Better than season 3, and right up there with 1 and 2. I want more.

[neorev]

Yeah, love Season 4!
Definitely agree, waaaay better than Season 3.
Sure, it took a few episodes to really start coming together... but when it did, it was fucking great!
Love all the little connections and tie ins... yes, this season was like one long episode that all connected.
Give me Season 5!

[sentient02970]

I've heard that in a lot of the group scenes, some characters are composited in because the schedule didn't provide for them to film together. Third episode is Lindsay 1, right? I've just finished that, I found it funnier than the first two. I always felt she was underused in the series, and in my opinion she actually makes for a fun focus.

"Ninja please!"

[Vertigo]

That's a low blow Loblaw.

[mfte]

Let me post what everyone is posting.

Takes a few episodes to get into it but when you realize the greater plot it becomes more enjoyable.

Theres laughs, and the whole thing seems better in retrospect after you have seen the season.

Season 1,2,3 were tapas style as the 4th season is a 15 course meal.

[Vertigo]

Let me post what everyone is posting.

Takes a few episodes to get into it but when you realize the greater plot it becomes more enjoyable.

Theres laughs, and the whole thing seems better in retrospect after you have seen the season.

Season 1,2,3 were tapas style as the 4th season is a 15 course meal.



Just finished the season today, and I completely agree.
The story's chaotic and confusing, and remains that way to a degree even by the end of the season. But the jokes are built up to so well... the first couple of episodes I watched in stony silence, and by the last few, I was curled up in a foetal position from too much laughing. Particular thumbs up to Tobias' episodes, and Gob's second.

[liquidcalm]

Yeah.. I'll echo the 'it took a while to get going but then ended really well' crowd.
At times it felt too dense, like they were trying to catch up on lost time (which I guess they were) and that didn't lend it any favours. It'd be nice for a less frenetic next season, now we are all caught up.
The writing at times was astounding, I loved it.

[johnbron]

Many of you have already said how I feel, so I'll keep this at a simple "I fucking loved it."

I'm about to compete a third watch of the season and it just keeps getting better with each watch. Still catching jokes I didn't get or even notice this first time through.

SEASON FIVE PLEASE.

[Presideo]

I agree with almost all the major complaints lobbed at S4, but I still thought it was great overall. Maybe the sheer nostalgia of seeing all the characters back after all these years was enough to win me over.

Also, highlights that will stick with me for awhile: the 'And Jeremy Piven' club, the dried ramen shank, the whole Gob/Tony Wonder story, the constant Andy Richter cameos, and the comedic over-explanations from everybody's favorite narrator. There were a lot of little moments that reminded me why I fell in love with Arrested Development in the first place.

[Piko]

It started off slow. But when it picked up, it got good quickly.

[wizfan]

Anyone else caught off-guard by the "Showstealer Pro - Trial Version" joke? They even wrote "You have one day left" in one of the final episodes.

[ImTheWiseJanitor]

I'm just a couple episodes into season 2. FUCKING TOM JANE??? I totally didn't recognize him!

[eversonpoe]

I'm just a couple episodes into season 2. FUCKING TOM JANE??? I totally didn't recognize him!

"I'm Tom Jane!"

[ImTheWiseJanitor]

I knew he looked familiar. But all that facial hair...Fuck, he might as well have been Gene Parmesan.

[eversonpoe]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/3dddb1783e51d370cbf3b6db13ed8663/tumblr_mnlq69tFHE1qjtbb8o1_500.gif

[Baphomette]

Geeks Who Drink are hosting an AR quiz event on July 20th. (https://www.facebook.com/events/416711415115062/)

[slave2thewage]

Talks have begun for Season 5!
http://www.slashfilm.com/netflix-in-talks-for-another-season-of-arrested-development/

[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

I'd love if they went back to the original format. I just started watching the older seasons again and it is so refreshing!

[Alexandros]

I finally decided to watch this show after repeated mentions of it being one of the best comedy shows ever. And I've got to say I now know there was a void in my soul before AD came to fill it up. What an amazing, refreshing, fun, intelligent show!

As for Season 4, I enjoyed it from start till end. It probably helped that I had previously watched Seasons 1-3 back to back and all four seasons within a month or so, because I wasn't at all put off by the change in the show's structure; I didn't have to wait for several years to get new episodes and didn't have the time to get all nostalgic. For me, Season 4 is right up there with the best of them, and the setup is simply brilliant. The way the puzzle pieces all fall into place as we see the events from the point of view of each character was a joy to watch. I am running out of superlatives here!

[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

Apparently.. the movie is a full go!!

ttp://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/27/creator-says-the-arrested-development-movie-is-full-steam-ahead (http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/27/creator-says-the-arrested-development-movie-is-full-steam-ahead)

[Piko]

Egh... Sounds like the same thing as before. They all want to do it, etc etc. Still isn't green-lit. Until that happens, it isn't moving forward. He's probably working on the screenplay before pitching it.

[ziltoid]

Leaked Teaser Trailer for Season 5, I don't know if this is legit but if it is then we can expect it to arrive early next year!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvRM7p8lJes

[imail724]

Faker than a 3 dollar bill

[imail724]

Straight from the horses mouth: Season 5 coming "soon", season 4 remix coming Friday (https://www.facebook.com/ArrestedDevelopment/posts/1518632364949930)
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31729758_1518632218283278_6491702777092243456_n.pn g?_nc_cat=0&oh=0fa8609e5af7b683568a77f77a87dcc6&oe=5B62E293https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31703879_1518632198283280_5463699683324985344_n.pn g?_nc_cat=0&oh=abe8823ecc9f6436835126376df296a1&oe=5B65259C

[Piko]

Guess I know what I'll be watching this weekend. Hopefully it's better.

[neorev]

Awesome! Love Arrested Development and been waiting for season 5 and have been interested in the season 4 recut since Mitch mentioned his intentions to re-edit a while ago. Finally! Guessing season 5 will be here in the summer or perhaps fall. Netflix need to fill the gap left from no Stranger Things this year.

[theimage13]

FYI, it's been confirmed that Tambor is part of Season 5.

[Piko]

Two episodes in. Much better than the original season.

[Sarah K]

Hopefully it is better than that abortion of last season. That was truly horrible.

[imail724]

Two episodes in. Much better than the original season.Agreed. Im 3 episodes in and it's so clear now that the pacing was way off originally. This is how it should have been from the beginning.

[Jord]

Didn't really mind S4 originally, although with the format it was a touch weird, this re-cut seems to have hit the nail on the head though! Really really enjoying it.

Noticing things I didn't see last time and getting hyped for S5

[Volband]

S4 was not utter shit, just hit and miss. And I'm glad Tambor returned.

[Jord]

S4 was not utter shit, just hit and miss. And I'm glad Tambor returned.

Same. I felt sad about the sexual assault accusations, and it remains to be seen whether or not he's actually guilty- I'll be pissed if it does come out eventually that it's true - however AD wouldn't be the same without him and I'd be a little put off watching if they'd have sacked him too.

[imail724]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXg2_yExgVY

[eversonpoe]

The Men Of Arrested Development Sound Like Schmucks (https://www.spin.com/2018/05/arrested-development-new-york-times-interview-jessica-walter-jeffery-tambor/)

well, if i was on the fence about watching the "remix" of season 4 and then checking out season 5, i am definitely no longer interested. it's bad enough that tambor harassed someone on Transparent, but these fucking dudes defending him verbally abusing jessica walter is abhorrent.

[theimage13]

The Men Of Arrested Development Sound Like Schmucks (https://www.spin.com/2018/05/arrested-development-new-york-times-interview-jessica-walter-jeffery-tambor/)

well, if i was on the fence about watching the "remix" of season 4 and then checking out season 5, i am definitely no longer interested. it's bad enough that tambor harassed someone on Transparent, but these fucking dudes defending him verbally abusing jessica walter is abhorrent.


Exactly. Again, there is context. What we do for a living is not normal, and therefore the process is not normal sometimes, and to expect it to be normal is to not understand what happens on set.

Fuck Jason Bateman. Sweetie, what I do for work is not normal either. I frequently work longer days than you do, in more trying and stressful conditions than you. I go longer without seeing my family than you do. And if I exploded to the point that it brought a grown woman to tears talking about it years after the fact, you'd better believe my ass would be fired on the spot.

And I know professional actors. They all have their processes. Some of them make me laugh a little. Some of them just make me tilt my head and go "huh?" But none of them make me cry because that process resulted in a massive verbal assault directed at me. Because they're all good people who know that no one deserves to be screamed at like that for anything short of maybe physically attacking somebody.

Here's the thing: I'm already a Netflix subscriber and will continue to be. So I'm likely going to give the show a chance anyway because frankly, the company already has my money. But I've had artists that I've had to stop listening to after their actions have been brought to light, and it's entirely possible that I won't be able to put this out of my head while watching and, as a result, will turn it back off.

[neorev]

eversonpoe theimage13 thevoid99
The New York Times article and interview doesn't sound nearly as bad as Spin is making this out to be. Walters said she would work with Tambor again in a heartbeat in the Times interview.

Something else I wanted to add...

Honestly, I wish we had complete audio/video of the interview. I've learned transcripts aren't always the best ways to judge a conversation and seen transcripts used as weapons by the Times before. I'm not defending Tambor or anything. But actually hearing and seeing a conversation can completely change you opinion of the exhange. You don't pick up on inflections, the little nuances, pauses, and sounds people make.

Not to bring up politics here, but the NY Times pulled something mischievous during the primaries with Bernie Sanders. They purposely shared the transcript of an interview first and when you read it Bernie sounded like he couldn't complete a thought and unable to convey what he was trying to say. It looked bad going by the transcript. But when the Times finally released the audio and you actually heard the interview, you discovered it was the journalist constantly cutting off Bernie and interjecting before he could complete his thought and leaving out moments. The Times made sure to share the audio a couple of weeks later after people already made up their minds on the interview. Meanwhile the audio of the interview showed a completely different interaction where Bernie was trying to share his ideas and thoughts, but was being cut off by the interviewer. I learned to beware of journalists and many times they have an agenda.

All I'm saying is I much rather hear the full and back and forth without edits. Even that 1 minute audio of Walters sounds like there is a cut in there.

[theimage13]

@eversonpoe (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=588) @theimage13 (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=809) @thevoid99 (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=254)
The New York Times article and interview doesn't sound nearly as bad as Spin is making this out to be. Walters said she would work with Tambor again in a heartbeat in the Times interview.

Something else I wanted to add...

Honestly, I wish we had complete audio/video of the interview. I've learned transcripts aren't always the best ways to judge a conversation and seen transcripts used as weapons by the Times before. I'm not defending Tambor or anything. But actually hearing and seeing a conversation can completely change you opinion of the exhange. You don't pick up on inflections, the little nuances, pauses, and sounds people make.

Not to bring up politics here, but the NY Times pulled something mischievous during the primaries with Bernie Sanders. They purposely shared the transcript of an interview first and when you read it Bernie sounded like he couldn't complete a thought and unable to convey what he was trying to say. It looked bad going by the transcript. But when the Times finally released the audio and you actually heard the interview, you discovered it was the journalist constantly cutting off Bernie and interjecting before he could complete his thought and leaving out moments. The Times made sure to share the audio a couple of weeks later after people already made up their minds on the interview. Meanwhile the audio of the interview showed a completely different interaction where Bernie was trying to share his ideas and thoughts, but was being cut off by the interviewer. I learned to beware of journalists and many times they have an agenda.

All I'm saying is I much rather hear the full and back and forth without edits. Even that 1 minute audio of Walters sounds like there is a cut in there.

I'll listen with an open mind if I ever hear a full version, but here's what I heard / read:

-Walters clearly not okay with what Tambor did, but trying to be the bigger person and putting it in the past.
-Basically every male cast member going "yeah, whatevs, Tambor blows up at people all the time but he's an actor so it's okay".

No, it's not fucking okay.

[eversonpoe]

@eversonpoe (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=588) @theimage13 (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=809) @thevoid99 (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=254)
The New York Times article and interview doesn't sound nearly as bad as Spin is making this out to be. Walters said she would work with Tambor again in a heartbeat in the Times interview.

Something else I wanted to add...

Honestly, I wish we had complete audio/video of the interview. I've learned transcripts aren't always the best ways to judge a conversation and seen transcripts used as weapons by the Times before. I'm not defending Tambor or anything. But actually hearing and seeing a conversation can completely change you opinion of the exhange. You don't pick up on inflections, the little nuances, pauses, and sounds people make.

Not to bring up politics here, but the NY Times pulled something mischievous during the primaries with Bernie Sanders. They purposely shared the transcript of an interview first and when you read it Bernie sounded like he couldn't complete a thought and unable to convey what he was trying to say. It looked bad going by the transcript. But when the Times finally released the audio and you actually heard the interview, you discovered it was the journalist constantly cutting off Bernie and interjecting before he could complete his thought and leaving out moments. The Times made sure to share the audio a couple of weeks later after people already made up their minds on the interview. Meanwhile the audio of the interview showed a completely different interaction where Bernie was trying to share his ideas and thoughts, but was being cut off by the interviewer. I learned to beware of journalists and many times they have an agenda.

All I'm saying is I much rather hear the full and back and forth without edits. Even that 1 minute audio of Walters sounds like there is a cut in there.

totally see where you're coming from, however, with the two trans actresses that tambor sexually harassed on Transparent, he clearly has some issues beyond just anger management, no matter what the context is.

also, i'm really proud of alia shawkat for standing up for jessica walter in the midst of all that.

[neorev]

totally see where you're coming from, however, with the two trans actresses that tambor sexually harassed on Transparent, he clearly has some issues beyond just anger management, no matter what the context is.

also, i'm really proud of alia shawkat for standing up for jessica walter in the midst of all that.

I wasn't trying to defend Tambor. He obviously has issues.

[eversonpoe]

I wasn't trying to defend Tambor. He obviously has issues.

oh, i didn't think you were! sorry, tone is never properly conveyed through text, it's endlessly frustrating!

i mean in response to you wanting to hear the audio instead of reading the transcript. i don't know how much it would change, given that tambor clearly has...issues. but it would still probably make more sense of a few things.

<3

[playwithfire]

Did y'all listen to the audio where she starts crying? It's so gross and sickening. Fuck Bateman. Fuck Cross. Tambor is human garbage.

[Jord]

That interview was a really uncomfortable read. It won't affect my enjoyment of the show but it was a tough one to get through.

[eversonpoe]

Update (partway down) - Jason Bateman apologizes for being a fucking dickhole (https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/05/jason-bateman-defends-jeffrey-tambor-behavior/)

[ltrandazzo]

Update (partway down) - Jason Bateman apologizes for being a fucking dickhole (https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/05/jason-bateman-defends-jeffrey-tambor-behavior/)

My hope, even though it doesn't need to be publicized, is that he called Jessica up and told her this directly.

I'm still not watching season 5.

[icklekitty]

@eversonpoe (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=588) @theimage13 (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=809) @thevoid99 (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=254)
The New York Times article and interview doesn't sound nearly as bad as Spin is making this out to be. Walters said she would work with Tambor again in a heartbeat in the Times interview.

I came in here to check that people were actually reading the original article and not some chinese whispers version. I saw a Jezebel version this morning which was just as offensive to Jessica for twisting her words.

It's fine if you want to boycott the fifth season, but please do it as a result of reading the original words - Jessica's original words in which she's mad at the interviewer for asking - and not something written by someone fapping over the topic.

[ltrandazzo]

Jessica's original words in which she's mad at the interviewer for asking

I'm confused by this. Are you talking about this exchange? Because I read this as Jessica asking what the question was going to be before she interrupted the Times interviewer and was putting it back on topic.

From the Hollywood Reporter interview, you talked about how you yelled at directors, assistant directors, the “Transparent” creator Jill Soloway. You even said at one point you lashed out at —
WALTER Jessica Walter.

[...]

WALTER [TO THE TIMES] What was your point about that, though?
If someone approached you and said, “O.K., here’s an actor that admits he routinely yells at directors, at assistant directors, at co-workers, assistants,” would you hire that person?

[thevoid99]

I've never watched the show other than a few things such as the chicken thing and a few other tidbits. I still have no interest in watching the show.

[imail724]

I've never watched the show other than a few things such as the chicken thing and a few other tidbits. I still have no interest in watching the show.
good to know

[Jord]

They've cancelled all UK press visits for the cast in the wake of what's happened.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-44252483 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-44252483)

It really pains me to see one of my favourite shows in this situations, everything is crumbling down. The worst thing being that I can't see them doing a season 6 and closing the story in some kind with the recent developments, really hope it isn't left open ended.

[implanted_microchip]

Well, I watched the season 4 remix and liked it quite a lot, but I also never hated the original version like a lot of people did. I’m halfway into the first half of the new season and after getting past all the recapping of the first couple episodes, the flow and humor is fantastic. Lindsay, Maebe, Buster, Michael and George Michael especially have had some excellent moments, but everyone’s interactions have felt solid. I’ve laughed more every episode which is always a good sign and it feels like they got back in the swing of things this season way more than the last.

[Jord]

I never thought it would happen but I'm really not enjoying Season 5 so far. I've watched the first 3 episodes and barely laughed.

It definitely feels like it's rolling out of the Season 4 stuff still into a new territory so I'm still looking forward to seeing where the next 5 episodes go, but yeah...pretty heartbroken to watch 3 episodes last night and not feel much at all about them, especially with a show I hold so dear.

The George Michael/Michael encounter in the penthouse was so awkward to watch.

[Volband]

Only 5 episodes in, but I've enjoyed it all, except the budget green screens with Portia. I missed AD's unique take on humor, and it's still the best.

edit: nevermind, I read more about the incident. mind changed.

[Jord]

Just passed episode 5 last night and still not into it. They've fucked up with Portia's green screen stuff - it just sucks hard.

I wonder if they should have just left it alone. I've probably laughed about 3 or 4 times in the whole of 5 episodes, and that was at callback stuff.

I am very worried that if they don't end it at the end of this one, they'll not get to make another one. It may seem dark to think but not everyone may be around in 5 years time to make another series? Or they may not want to work together any more as a result of the recent disaster regarding all the Jeffrey Tambor stuff. I guess I'm secretly hoping that they conclude the second half so that if they never make any more, it won't be so bad.

[OSLIN]

They should have let it die. The first 3 seasons will always be some of the best television ever created, but these new episodes are definitely missing that magic. Oh well 3 more episodes to go, thinking they should have made the movie and finished it there. Oh well.

[icklekitty]

It's more "true to form" than season 4 but I preferred season 4 to this as the writing seems lazy this year. I agree a film would have worked better. Highlights were the murderers v rapists, Maebe being old, and the ensemble reunion scene. I think part of the downfall was including so many extra characters that we don't really care about. I would have loved to see an episode of the original cast basically stuck in a room.

[blackholesun]

I think it's safe to say the show has lost some of it's magic, and that's okay. I've enjoyed watching the cast together again in these Netflix seasons, but the pacing just feels so off. I re-watched everything leading up to the season 5 premiere. The first 3 seasons are still so good. Still finding new jokes I never caught. The remixed season 4 was a definite step up from the original edit, but still a little slow to get through.

The first part of season 5 has some definite highlights...Maebe's storyline in particular..."bury me!" Still pretty funny overall, I'm looking forward to the back half of S5...but I kind of hope that's it unless they do a movie.

[Jord]

I must admit I enjoyed episode 8. It felt like it was going forward with something good finally and really felt like a great AD episode. I'm very much looking forward to the second half of the season now to see where it does go.

I will be watching the whole S5 again over the next week or so to see if my opinion changes about the rest of it.

[imail724]

https://thehardtimes.net/culture/wait-so-can-i-watch-new-arrested-development-or-not/

[MrLobster]

Watching the new episodes... and laughing.

So much wrong. So much laughter.

[Jord]

Watching the new episodes... and laughing.

So much wrong. So much laughter.

I've found the second half of Season 5 to be absolutely fantastic, more in line with older AD, a lot funnier and a great conclusion. I liked the first half but it was a slow build, however when watched as a whole it become so much better. I guess they won't be doing any more, but the way the new episodes played out I'd be ok with it.