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ImTheWiseJanitor
01-13-2012, 06:54 PM
I figure we can use one thread for the upcoming Jurassic Park IV and discussing the first three films.

My girlfriend's stuck in the hospital, and has been for a couple of days, so whenever she's asleep I've been watching the digital copies/bonus content for the Ultimate Trilogy that came out a little bit ago. One, the little 3-year-old in me is still excited as hell about these movies, and two, it's like I'm watching everything again for the first time, going through all the bonus content - none of which I'd really sat and watched before.

Wretchedest
01-13-2012, 10:14 PM
I just watched them. Very stupid movies but some good fun no less.

At one point in the lost world Vince Vaugn said maybe the funniest line in the whole trilogy.

::Ian Malcom's daughter is caught stowing away in a trailer, already on the island, she stumbles out and Vaughn, Jeff Golblum and Julianne Moore catch her. an awkward moment ensues::

Vince Vaughn (gesturing between Goldblum and the little girl): Do I see a family resemblance?

::the little girl is Black, Goldblum is not...::


???? I know the line is not meant to be ironic, but it comes off so ridiculous because of the casting.. lulz

Highly Psychological
01-13-2012, 11:31 PM
The scene where the children are being attacked by the T Rex in the car is one of my favorite moments in cinema history. There is no music, when I saw it I think the cinema turned the volume up immensely when this scene came on, the floor was shaking, but its just the terrifying sounds of children screaming, metal being crushed to pieces and glass being smashed, loud thunder and a ferocious monster roaring. I found that scene extremely powerful and intense. Spielberg is a master at creating suspense.
I always thought Ariana Richards should have done more films.

neorev
01-14-2012, 12:39 AM
Spielberg will not direct JPIV and won't rule out a reboot... I'm all for a reboot if it follows the book more, which is a bit darker

Space Suicide
01-14-2012, 01:19 AM
I only truly liked the first film. The others lack at any good tactics that the first had and I found III quite terribly overblown.

It's been close to what...12 or 11 years since III? It was only a matter of time another sequel would be out.

fillow
01-14-2012, 09:34 AM
This franchise does not need a reboot, honestly. The dinosaurs are still there on the island, and the three main characters (even four if you count Julianne Moore) are alive and well and ready to go back (as far as screenplay writers are concerned)

theruiner
03-16-2012, 02:06 AM
Jurassic Park in 3D- coming summer 2013. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/54307)

jmtd
03-16-2012, 04:09 AM
God no to a reboot. The book is darker but is fundamentally unfilmable since the dinosaurs were just a backdrop, the book was about exploring chaos theory.

Vertigo
03-16-2012, 05:48 AM
The book is darker but is fundamentally unfilmable since the dinosaurs were just a backdrop, the book was about exploring chaos theory.

That's a bit of an overstatement, one of the major elements that makes the book so great is that it explores a number of cutting edge subjects in great detail. Genetic technology and the culture of commercial science is explored in just as much detail as chaos theory, and far from being a backdrop, Jurassic Park was the most critical publication in popularising the dinosaur revolution. Despite all the research that had gone into proving that many dinosaurs were active, social, childrearing, perhaps even endothermic and ancestral to birds, the concept of 'dinosaur' in the public consciousness still represented a primitive monster lizard plodding towards obsolescence and extinction. That book, and the film even more so, changed all that.

The film did water down most of the book's concepts, but I agree, a direct book-to-screen wouldn't work. There's too much detail and complexity for a movie to flow properly, and it's perhaps a bit dark for a family blockbuster.

Kid Charlemagne
03-16-2012, 11:36 AM
Jurassic Park in 3D- coming summer 2013. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/54307)

What I took away from this article is that for some reason they're making Grown Ups 2. Adam Sandler must be stopped.

Babali
03-16-2012, 12:17 PM
I want to see JP 3D! :o So many scenes should be great in the three dimensional vision.

Hazekiah
03-16-2012, 12:20 PM
^ Agreed! Should be a good opportunity to polish up the some of the more dated effects work, too.

Lookin' forward to it.

:)

Babali
03-16-2012, 12:32 PM
I think I'm most excited for the helicopter descent.

They're all like "whoa, whoa!"

It's going to be great in 3D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Actually I'm just kidding, that's not going to be my favorite scene. My favorite will be that desert scene near the beginning where they're undigging the fossils. Now that, that will be the highlight, seeing those fossils in 3D. Also seeing the amber with the insect inside will be great.

I'm still just kidding... that won't be the highlight, surely the highlight will be when they come across the gigantic pile of shit. IN 3 D!!!

Reznor2112
05-03-2013, 07:18 PM
FIRST FUCKING IMAGE FROM JP4! So fucking stoked, I do believe they are going to be covering the story of the barbasol can, much like the recent JP game from TellTale

http://moviepilot.com/stories/943187-jurassic-park-4-journey-begins-with-this-first-look-image-from-the-movie?stamp=44813&subscribe_to=32752&utm_campaign=our-jurassic-park-4-journey-begins-here-with-this-first-look-image-from-the-movie&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=fb-stream-post

Sutekh
05-05-2013, 05:51 AM
JP 3d not showing in London as far as I know... very jealous as the mrs saw it in hong kong the other week - and apparently there was like 2 people in the cinema :( gahh

Vertigo
05-05-2013, 07:50 AM
JP 3d not showing in London as far as I know... very jealous as the mrs saw it in hong kong the other week - and apparently there was like 2 people in the cinema :( gahh

For some bizarre reason it's not showing until August 23rd in Britain. The last few weeks have been barren at the box office, I don't know why they didn't release it more or less concurrently to the US. With so much of a major marketing campaign spreading worldwide thanks to the web, it's essentially throwing money down the toilet to have internationally staggered release dates these days.

GibbonBlack
05-05-2013, 08:04 AM
For some bizarre reason it's not showing until August 23rd in Britain. The last few weeks have been barren at the box office, I don't know why they didn't release it more or less concurrently to the US. With so much of a major marketing campaign spreading worldwide thanks to the web, it's essentially throwing money down the toilet to have internationally staggered release dates these days.


It leaked online a few weeks back. The two scenes that stand out are the T-Rex jeep scene and the Velociraptor kitchen scene. They're terrifying again

Hazekiah
05-08-2013, 10:16 PM
Production has been halted, JP4 = delayed:


Guests will have to wait a little longer to re-enter “Jurassic Park.”

Universal Pictures has decided to take the film off its June 13, 2014, release date for the long-awaited sequel to “Jurassic Park 3.”

In a statement from Universal, the studio says, “Universal has decided to release ‘Jurassic Park 4 ‘at a later date giving the studio and filmmakers adequate time to bring audiences the best possible version of the fourth installment in Universal’s beloved franchise. We could not be more excited about the vision that Colin Trevorrow has created for this film, and we look forward to watching as he and the producers create another great chapter in this franchise’s storied history.”

Rumblings began to surface last night of a possible delay to the production when several crew members tweeted that the production was being halted.

The project was already on a tight schedule when the studio dated the film before it tapped a director to come on board. “Safety Not Guaranteed” helmer Colin Trevorrow was eventually selected but as part of his deal had asked the studio if he could re-work the script with writing partner Derek Connolly.

Even with a script being worked out, the studio had begun meeting with actors and had focused on thesps such as Bryce Dallas Howard and David Oyelowo as front-runners to join the cast. The idea was once a script was done and greenlight given that offers could be given out immediately and production get under way without any worry of getting off schedule due to casting meetings.

While delays are never a good thing, this is hardly a troubling sign for the production but more of the fact that Universal may have simply gotten too far ahead of itself when setting the original date.

Trevorrow is rewriting the script with Connelly, whom he worked with on Sundance hit “Safety Not Guaranteed.”

Rick Jaffa and Amanda Silver penned the original script but no plot details have been revealed.

Frank Marshall is producing with Spielberg exec producing.

http://variety.com/2013/film/news/universal-delays-jurassic-park-4-release-1200477065/

ManBurning
05-08-2013, 11:43 PM
Yeah, I read about the delay on another news site this morning. It seems like it's more of them flat out terminating the idea than putting a hold on it.

The other site was speculating that since the 3D re-release of the original only pulled in 40 million, this was the studio's the deciding factor to put a hold on JP4 now, if not terminate the idea altogether.

Which i'm actually pretty upset about... I was really looking forward to this movie and the thought ofn waiting a whole year has been tourtue for me. I am a HUGE JP fan and have been following the rumors of a sequel for about a decade now.

I think the studio needs to realize that just because a 20 year old post converted 3D movie only pulled in $40 mil, doesn't mean a brand new movie will do the same. There is a pretty huge difference between an old re-release and a brand new movie. The 4th installment would make it's money back guarenteed. Oh well, what can ya do...
next summer is jam-packed with amazing releases anyway. (Transformers 4, TMNT reboot and X-men: days of the future past). Would be nice to have JP4 thrown in the mix next summer as well, but on one hand, if they haven't even got a cast together yet, and they are aiming for a June 2014 release, they really should have been SHOOTING by now, it's not gonna make the release date one way or the other unless they start filming now. A movie of this calibre is going to take more than a year to put together, and since all 3 of the movies I named above have already gone into production, and this hasn't that's a sure sign this movie isn't going to make the 2014 summer release schedule.

I'm all for pushing the release back another year or another 6 months if it means more time to develop the script and get the proper cast together, but I'd really hate to see this project get scrapped altogether.

Reznor2112
05-11-2013, 02:18 PM
Colin Treverrow has confirmed, just a delay. No re-write. Basically the draft he turned in is probably more epic than Universal anticipated and gave them more time

http://s21.postimg.org/hdkpuaik7/twitter.png

fillow
05-11-2013, 04:06 PM
I hope they'll do something about that god awful CGI'd dinosaurs from JP3. Creatures from 1 & 2 looked a million times more real.

elevenism
05-31-2013, 11:45 AM
i've noticed that the cgi technology is moving so fast that movies look dated after a year or two.
We are fast approaching a point at which it will be possible for ANYTHING to happen in a film and look absolutely real.
I hope that SOME kind of new JP comes out...part 4, reboot, whatever....just cause i wanna see how real the dinosaurs look. Fuck the plot, i mean, i watch transformers with the volume down more than once.

hellospaceboy
05-31-2013, 08:16 PM
^^^
See, I hope they'll keep using practical creatures too, Stan Winston's work is what really makes the JP films look decent even now. I watched JP in 3D on the big screen recently, and when they revealed the sick triceratops I was still blown away by how great it looked.

ManBurning
09-11-2013, 03:45 AM
Meh, Jurassic Park 4's title has been changed to "Jurassic World" and gets a June 12, 2015 release date.

While i'm happy the movie is back on track and has a scheduled release date now, i'm not a fan of the title change.
Guess it's a minor complaint, but ya need a good title! I would have much rather them kept the "Jurassic Park" name and added a subtitle. Adding a number to the name is so overkill these days, but adding a subtitle would have been better.

As long as they take their time with the film to do it right, that's really what it all boils down to. While I really want to see this film badly, i'm glad they took it out of the 2014 summer release schedule, it would have been too rushed.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=108786

http://screenrant.com/jurassic-park-4-world-summer-2015/

ManBurning
09-11-2013, 01:05 PM
Promo/Pitch trailer for "Jurassic World" - This footage will apparently not be in the final film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZL_5xh4pjc

source: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=108815

Reznor2112
09-11-2013, 08:44 PM
Promo/Pitch trailer for "Jurassic World" - This footage will apparently not be in the final film.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZL_5xh4pjc

source: http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=108815


This is not part of the movie...this was for a video game that never got made.

SOURCE: http://www.jurassicparkiv.org/?id=56

ManBurning
09-11-2013, 11:05 PM
This is not part of the movie...this was for a video game that never got made.

SOURCE: http://www.jurassicparkiv.org/?id=56

Hmm...

Not sure what it said when you read it, but it has an "update" now that says:

"UPDATE: Ryan Turek of ShockTillYouDrop.com is claiming that he saw the test footage from Jurassic World over a year ago in 2012, and is confirming that it's 100% NOT for a video game. He claims that it is pitch footage - a 'proof of concept' for Jurassic World, and that he has been sitting on the title for over a year. Check out his Tweet here (https://twitter.com/_RyanTurek/status/377904147808661504) and take a look at his other tweets too. We'll keep you updated when more news comes in."

Here is the twitter conversation:


https://twitter.com/_RyanTurek/status/377904147808661504

neorev
09-11-2013, 11:36 PM
Yeah it's pitch footage... though it is not going to be a scene in the film
I'm still 50/50 with this movie... it is some sorta remake/sequel mash up
A fully working park with tourists when everything goes wrong

Reznor2112
09-13-2013, 09:47 AM
Hmm...

Not sure what it said when you read it, but it has an "update" now that says:

"UPDATE: Ryan Turek of ShockTillYouDrop.com is claiming that he saw the test footage from Jurassic World over a year ago in 2012, and is confirming that it's 100% NOT for a video game. He claims that it is pitch footage - a 'proof of concept' for Jurassic World, and that he has been sitting on the title for over a year. Check out his Tweet here (https://twitter.com/_RyanTurek/status/377904147808661504) and take a look at his other tweets too. We'll keep you updated when more news comes in."

Here is the twitter conversation:


https://twitter.com/_RyanTurek/status/377904147808661504

I find it extremely funny that some random guy from a website has been sitting on the title of the film for a year, WHEN the director who came up with the story and wrote the script hasnt even been tied to JP4 for a year...

And because a person said it on Twitter...makes it true.

BTW Im Jesus. Because I posted this statement on ETS...IT IS TRUE.


AND HOW THE HELL, coudld there be pitch footage a year ago when no one was attached to the damn project??

dlb
09-13-2013, 11:46 AM
And why would you need conceptual pitch footage for a Jurassic Park movie? I'm pretty sure the guys and girls at ILM still know how to do things that look good.

Hazekiah
09-13-2013, 11:59 AM
I'd imagine the "proof of concept" was required because flying dinosaurs figure prominently in the plot (sensible enough considering it's called Jurassic WORLD and they'd escape the island most easily), and frankly most of the other flying dinosaur scenes in the franchise -- especially when they're interacting with people -- looked like shit compared to everything else.

Cool clip, btw! Huge improvement.

hellospaceboy
09-13-2013, 10:03 PM
Am I the only one who actually likes the new title? It sure beats Jurassic Park 4, or Jurassic Park: the Hatching!

Reznor2112
04-30-2014, 08:54 AM
New Set photos: SOOOOO DAMN EXCITED!
http://www.mtv.com/news/1726685/jurassic-world-set-photos/

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/646885-jurassic-world-jurassic-park-4-new-hawaii-set-photos-details-about-possible-sequels/

http://www.mtv.com/crop-images/2014/04/23/Bryce-Dallas-Howard-Jurassic-World.jpg
http://www.mtv.com/crop-images/2014/04/23/Jurassic-World-Truck.jpghttp://www.mtv.com/crop-images/2014/04/23/Jurassic-World-Director-Chair.jpg
http://s2.djyimg.com/n3/eet-content/uploads/2014/04/jurassic-world-549x450.jpg

CONCEPT ART done for the film.
http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1369980/jurassic-world.jpg?w=660&h=367&l=50&t=40

Reznor2112
06-11-2014, 02:23 PM
HAPPY 21st BIRTHDAY JP!!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zXr9GLa0Jo

Reznor2112
06-11-2014, 02:24 PM
Sorry for double post but it wouldn't allow a 2nd video...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zvqGDfdfmM

Reznor2112
06-12-2014, 11:25 AM
New images: http://www.avclub.com/article/weve-got-some-exclusive-jurassic-world-photos-you-205704
http://i.onionstatic.com/avclub/5147/74/original/640.jpghttp://i.onionstatic.com/avclub/5147/75/original/640.jpghttp://i.onionstatic.com/avclub/5147/76/original/640.jpg

Millionaire
06-12-2014, 12:50 PM
I'm optimistic about this film, but I still don't really know what to make of it. The story with the hybrid dinos could either be pretty cool or pretty silly. I liked Safety Not Guaranteed, but it didn't exactly scream "This director should do a Jurassic Park movie!". I am glad that they're doing another one, though. I still can't believe they screwed up two sequels to this, so hopefully they learned by the third one.

Reznor2112
06-12-2014, 12:51 PM
Im digging the Triumph motorcycle

kdrcraig
06-12-2014, 02:56 PM
I'm optimistic about this film, but I still don't really know what to make of it. The story with the hybrid dinos could either be pretty cool or pretty silly. I liked Safety Not Guaranteed, but it didn't exactly scream "This director should do a Jurassic Park movie!". I am glad that they're doing another one, though. I still can't believe they screwed up two sequels to this, so hopefully they learned by the third one.

I thought the hybrid dinos thing was just a rumor. Was that confirmed to actually be part of the story?

I've never understood why people don't like the 3rd one. I don't even mind the second one but I can at least see why people don't like it. I have always been a huge dinosaur nerd though...

Wretchedest
06-12-2014, 03:44 PM
Ive never thought these movies had much substance so movie 4 means robots or aliens or mutants or talking dinos or gtfo.

Vertigo
06-12-2014, 05:08 PM
You'll have a hard time finding many summer blockbusters with more substance than the original.

Reznor2112
06-13-2014, 09:10 AM
I actually quite enjoyed the 2nd minus the 3rd act, as I wish they had stuck with Crichton's original ending. What happens at the island, stays at the island.

kdrcraig
06-13-2014, 10:19 AM
I actually quite enjoyed the 2nd minus the 3rd act, as I wish they had stuck with Crichton's original ending. What happens at the island, stays at the island.

Wasn't the 2nd movie completely different from the book? It's been a long time since I've read it

fillow
06-13-2014, 10:21 AM
They have similar premise and beginning but as movie progress it goes way off

kdrcraig
06-13-2014, 10:59 AM
I thought so. I'm sure I'll be going to see this new one on opening weekend.

Wretchedest
06-13-2014, 11:49 AM
You'll have a hard time finding many summer blockbusters with more substance than the original.

Jurrassic Park is one of those old school type blockbusters. The kind that is defined by its actual blockbusting rather than its front end marketing and budget.

So here is an apples to apples list of blockbusters that I think have more substance:
The first two Terminator movies.
The original Star Wars Trilogy
2001
The Godfather
Superman 2
The Matrix

Here are some apples oranges comparisons: modern blockbusters
Nolan Batman Movies
Rise of the Planet of the Apes
Harry Potter


Its a matter of opinion, and its all relative, but Ive just always found Jurassic Park pretty shallow. Its a well made, super fun movie, but its totally empty for the most part.

Vertigo
06-13-2014, 11:53 AM
Wasn't the 2nd movie completely different from the book? It's been a long time since I've read it

They're TOTALLY different. Pretty much the only things carried over between book and film are the presence of a Site B on Isla Sorna, a downbeat Malcolm leading a rescue party, a Tyrannosaurus couple assaulting the trailers after their baby's taken.
There's no Roland in the book, no InGen hunters (no extant InGen full stop, actually), no Hammond, almost none of the setpieces, no live dinosaurs on the mainland, Sarah Harding is a naturalist rather than a palaeontologist, etc. Different cast of characters, different motivations, different tone, different themes, different story, different dinosaurs.

I do wonder what kind of film The Lost World would have been if Michael Crichton had co-wrote the script, as he did with Jurassic Park.

Vertigo
06-13-2014, 12:10 PM
Its a matter of opinion, and its all relative, but Ive just always found Jurassic Park pretty shallow. Its a well made, super fun movie, but its totally empty for the most part.

It's the movie that popularised the dinosaur revolution, the paradigm shift in scientific understanding which changed our conception of dinosaurs from lumbering, reptilian evolutionary dead-ends destined for extinction, to warm-blooded, active, social, smart, child-rearing and generally highly sophisticated creatures. It changed our popular conception of evolution, and the history of our planet. The film also inspired vast multitudes of youngsters to pursue careers in science, and consequently our knowledge of palaeontology has leapt forward faster in the intervening 20 years than it had in the previous century.
It's not an exaggeration to say that Jurassic Park is a landmark in our history.

And that's just its grander significance. As a film, it also grapples with the ethical concerns of scientific culture, and the unpredictable way that new developments can shape the world, in a very mature and grounded way. It's a smart film; it doesn't talk down to the viewer, and introduces lots of advanced real-world concepts that many of them won't be familiar with. And generally, it's a good story well told.

Wretchedest
06-13-2014, 12:29 PM
I'm pretty sure a lot of the science in the movie is wildly inaccurate, but fair enough.

screwdriver
06-13-2014, 12:38 PM
Jurrassic Park is one of those old school type blockbusters. The kind that is defined by its actual blockbusting rather than its front end marketing and budget.

So here is an apples to apples list of blockbusters that I think have more substance:
The first two Terminator movies.
The original Star Wars Trilogy
2001
The Godfather
Superman 2
The Matrix

Here are some apples oranges comparisons: modern blockbusters
Nolan Batman Movies
Rise of the Planet of the Apes
Harry Potter


Its a matter of opinion, and its all relative, but Ive just always found Jurassic Park pretty shallow. Its a well made, super fun movie, but its totally empty for the most part.

what is the substance of terminator 2

Wretchedest
06-13-2014, 01:08 PM
what is the substance of terminator 2
Shotguns...?

Well, remember it's all relative, but I think Terminator is about technology, fatherhood, motherhood.... etc. Terminator 2 features Instances of "character development." Again, it's all relative, but I'm hard pressed to think of any arcs that take place in Jurassic Park other than the guy finally deciding it needs to be shut down. At least Terminator learns to say "Hasta La Vista." Ha, I don't know maybe I'm wrong about that one. But it's definitely waaaay cooler.

edit: I'm just saying: There's a gap in the market for dinosaur robots. and movie number four is always the most ridiculous. seems like a good place to start.

edit 2: fucking nevermind Transformers 4 has dinosaur robots. Gap filled. holy shit.

screwdriver
06-13-2014, 02:46 PM
Shotguns...?

Well, remember it's all relative, but I think Terminator is about technology, fatherhood, motherhood.... etc. Terminator 2 features Instances of "character development." Again, it's all relative, but I'm hard pressed to think of any arcs that take place in Jurassic Park other than the guy finally deciding it needs to be shut down. At least Terminator learns to say "Hasta La Vista." Ha, I don't know maybe I'm wrong about that one. But it's definitely waaaay cooler.

edit: I'm just saying: There's a gap in the market for dinosaur robots. and movie number four is always the most ridiculous. seems like a good place to start.

edit 2: fucking nevermind Transformers 4 has dinosaur robots. Gap filled. holy shit.

I haven't seen a transformers since the first one, which was GOD AWFUL, but Dinosaur Robots look so ridiculous I am almost thinking about seeing this new one. and then I get a headache preemptively

As for T2... I am not usually a DFW guy but I agreed with him on that one -- http://www.scribd.com/doc/14994144/David-Foster-Wallace-F-X-Porn

JP I think you're being unkind to for the reasons Vertigo listed above. (And yes I'm aware DFW shit-talks JP in the link I just provided, but I think he's just wrong. JP has meaningful things to say and I think says them well.)

ManBurning
06-25-2014, 02:37 AM
Here are some behind the scenes videos on set of the new film.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=119868

Reznor2112
07-07-2014, 05:18 PM
New animatronic RAPTOR!!!!!
http://www.jurassicworld-movie.com/media/possible-jurassicworld-raptor.jpg


Post from Colin Trevorrow's Twitter
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BrSmhQpCUAAs3yL.jpg

Vertigo
07-07-2014, 07:55 PM
It's probably wearing the muzzle to stop it expressing embarassment about being bald.

Reznor2112
07-21-2014, 03:15 PM
if ANYONE is going to the San Diego comic con and can some how get this for me…I will be more than happy to make it worth your while…PLEASE http://geektyrant.com/news/jurassic-world-comic-con-poster-art-by-mark-englert?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

http://static.squarespace.com/static/51b3dc8ee4b051b96ceb10de/t/53cd5aa8e4b01d2bd0104132/1405967055754/jurassic-park-comic-con-poster-art-by-mark-englert?format=750w

neorev
10-15-2014, 02:35 AM
THE PARK IS OPEN
---- JUNE 12th, 2015 ----

http://www.comingsoon.net/gallery/6038/hr_Jurassic_World_7.jpg

implanted_microchip
10-15-2014, 10:00 AM
So far all of the announcements and this poster have told us literally nothing aside from "There's dinosaurs in a park, y'know, like the first one" and I'm still way more excited than I should be.

fillow
10-15-2014, 10:48 AM
Turns out it's not a reboot after all. As in, it takes place in the same universe as previous movies, albeit several years into the future. (per Wikipedia article)
I can't say I'm entirely cool with them skipping the story of new park development at the same abandoned islands, but I hope they touch it in some flashback or establishing scenes, or even in the same manner as they did in the first movie (that lab tour with video).

Space Suicide
10-15-2014, 05:55 PM
I'll keep an open mind about this film. 3 really, really jumped the Megalodon for the series. (See what I did there?)

kdrcraig
10-15-2014, 07:21 PM
I like 3 more than 2. I'll take any Jurassic Park I can get

imail724
10-15-2014, 07:41 PM
I like 3 more than 2. I'll take any Jurassic Park I can get
I like 3 more than 2 too

ManBurning
10-16-2014, 12:35 AM
So far all of the announcements and this poster have told us literally nothing aside from "There's dinosaurs in a park, y'know, like the first one" and I'm still way more excited than I should be.

That's how it should be!

We don't need to know ANYTHING else other than this is a Jurassic Park movie, and there will be dinosaurs.

I'm going to stay as far away from the trailers as possible when they come out. I do not want to know a SINGLE thing going into this movie.
I find I enjoy movies a lot more when I don't watch the trailers. Sometimes it gets hard trying to avoid them, when you have the internet and all, and in your daily news feed everyone is sharing the new trailer, movie news sites are all reporting on and reviewing the trailers and every message board you go to is talking about them. But, it pays off in the end.

This is something I started doing in the last 2 years to movies I know I am going to see for sure, and it's paid off enormously. I find trailers are only there to entice people who were on the fence about seeing the film. Like, for a movie I know nothing about, of course i'll watch the trailer, something I know i'm going to see on day 1... not so much.

Vertigo
10-16-2014, 04:02 AM
I'll keep an open mind about this film. 3 really, really jumped the Megalodon for the series. (See what I did there?)

Megalodon is mid-to-late Cenozoic, it's about as dinosaury as a hamburger.

Apologies for the nerding.

Space Suicide
10-16-2014, 08:03 PM
Megalodon is mid-to-late Cenozoic, it's about as dinosaury as a hamburger.

Apologies for the nerding.

Well, then!

You just ripped my bad joke to shreds and then made a funnier remark. Touché.

marodi
11-23-2014, 12:25 PM
Shouldn't this thread be renamed "Jurassic World"? Anyhow, since it's a slow day, here's the trailer's trailer:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvu-zlR5A8Q

YO BITCHES, STAR-LORD IS IN THIS. THOSE DINOS DON'T STAND A CHANCE!

Millionaire
11-25-2014, 03:03 AM
YO BITCHES, STAR-LORD IS IN THIS. THOSE DINOS DON'T STAND A CHANCE!
I'm kind of amazed how Chris Pratt went from the chubby dude in Parks and Rec to the muscular leading man in some mega-budget blockbusters. Good for him.

Alexandros
11-25-2014, 11:41 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFinNxS5KN4

Space Suicide
11-25-2014, 12:45 PM
Looks decent, I'll bite.

Vertigo
11-25-2014, 01:20 PM
The Apatosaurus and Stegosaurus look great, but could do without the bullshitamimuses/raptors. And what the hell is going on with that mosasaur? It looks bigger than Liam Neeson's cock.
Anyway. Not expecting this to be anywhere near Crichton-tier, but it looks like it could be fun.

thevoid99
11-25-2014, 01:55 PM
This looks good. I might give it a shot.

dlb
11-25-2014, 01:59 PM
I think it looks pretty awful and the trailer gets everything wrong that I hated about part 3... T-Rex not the main villain, dinosaurs as monsters rather than animals... and that last shot while it was cool seems like total bullshit.

I'm still looking forward to it and hope that it's more in the vain of part one and features some decent action rather than a Bay-esque CGI-fest.

Reznor2112
11-25-2014, 02:00 PM
Im so excited! It comes out on my 25th birthday and Ive been following the development since 2003. Im really impressed with Colin has done. Not at all worried about the CGI in trailer as they have a few more months to tweak.

Trailer is fantastic!

Rabbit
11-25-2014, 02:59 PM
this looks like a monster turd. people excited for this? lol, never ceases to amaze me.

mfte
11-25-2014, 05:25 PM
this looks like a monster turd. people excited for this? lol, never ceases to amaze me.

Sadly I agree. I know it's only the trailer but it has all the making of a by the book action film... as opposed to the original which really felt like an adventure film. You got all your cliches, power money hungry top dog, older teenager not impressed to be going on a lame trip. Not to mention that the aerial camera glide to that pool thing looked like like uninspired cgi. They created a brand new dinosaur? does it shoot bees out of its mouth?

Khrz
11-25-2014, 05:41 PM
Yeah, I wouldn't want to judge hastily, but the mention of the main antagonist as a "genetically modified dinosaur" really doesn't sound good. Really, a GMOsaurus ? That's a weak plot point... In Jurassic World : Apocalypse, I hear they crossbreed dinosaurs and humans to create a new kind of super soldiers.

TheyCallMeDrug
11-25-2014, 06:01 PM
looks like the introduction to the world and visuals of exploring the whole place will be amazing. the story of that genetically modified dino seems tacked on an potentially lame.

ive said it since jurassic park 1 and still believe it strongly - as long as there's dinosaurs eating people im in.

Dream
11-25-2014, 06:21 PM
I hold high hopes for this, the people involved know what they are doing.

Read about the production before making snap judgments.

They ARE using practical effects alongside the CGI and the GMO plot will be explained well (and it's very similar to a T-rex - http://www.dreadcentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/LEGO-Jurassic-World-2015-1.jpg)

Millionaire
11-25-2014, 06:34 PM
I really liked the trailer until the genetically modified dino business. I know Spielberg has been wanting to do that in JP4 for years- I think the original idea years ago was "dino-commandos" with guns, so its good they didn't do that. Hopefully the crossbred dino works and doesn't come across too lame. But all the stuff leading up to it I thought was nice. The open, technologically advanced park with a lot of people in it has the potential for some utter chaos.

One thing that seemed weird: why are raptors in racing cages, and why aren't they attacking Starlord?

marodi
11-25-2014, 06:48 PM
One thing that seemed weird: why are raptors in racing cages, and why aren't they attacking Starlord?

I heard that They are trained as pets? Why would someone think it's a good idea?

I really like the trailer too and if the genetically modified dino doesn't suck, it has the potential to be a good movie. I hope it's not going to be a turd like the third movie. :/

Oh and I don't think they ever showed the dinos as "monsters", on the contrary, during the first two movies, they showed them to be quite intelligent animals. The way I've always seen JP is that it's the human who are the bad guys for bringing back extinct animals to make money off of them.

Dream
11-25-2014, 06:54 PM
One thing that seemed weird: why are raptors in racing cages, and why aren't they attacking Starlord?

Apparently he's a Raptor trainer and he's their master, seems plausible considering they are distant relatives of birds of prey, I guess he's kind of like a falconer. It would be in their best interests to train them after what happened in the first film.

The tone of the leaked trailer was better IMO, it was unfinished and a low quality cam though.

Millionaire
11-25-2014, 07:10 PM
I heard that They are trained as pets? Why would someone think it's a good idea?

Apparently he's a Raptor trainer and he's their master, seems plausible considering they are distant relatives of birds of prey, I guess he's kind of like a falconer. It would be in their best interests to train them after what happened in the first film.
That seems...cool and stupid at the same time, but I'm down for it.

Could you give a rundown on what was different in the leaked trailer? Its probably going to be a chore to hunt it down by now.

kdrcraig
11-25-2014, 07:11 PM
It looks cool enough. Not sure about the genetically modified dinosaur deal, that could easily turn out to be terrible

ImTheWiseJanitor
11-25-2014, 07:42 PM
SIGN ME UP. Even if it's a bad movie, FUCK does it visually radical, even if it just turns out to be Chris Pratt: Velociraptorer.

I have a whole list of things I want it to be, but if it doesn't meet expectations, then I at least want it to be laughably dumb.

Dream
11-25-2014, 07:48 PM
That seems...cool and stupid at the same time, but I'm down for it.

Could you give a rundown on what was different in the leaked trailer? Its probably going to be a chore to hunt it down by now.

I can't really remember most of it. It didn't feel as stilted as this one though, I think they could have edited it better.

There was a different raptor scene showing off some practical effects.

There was a scene with Dr Henry Wu from the first film and the book.

Jinsai
11-25-2014, 11:35 PM
the trailer was pretty goofy...

fillow
11-26-2014, 12:16 AM
That seems...cool and stupid at the same time, but I'm down for it.


I dunno. IMO, still not as stupid as the whole idea of people rebuilding and opening the park, practically asking for new trouble. They never learn, right? I know it's not gonna happen, but I'd welcome a cameo shot of Dr. Grant or Dr. Malcolm saying "told you so!"

Dream
11-26-2014, 12:48 AM
I dunno. IMO, still not as stupid as the whole idea of people rebuilding and opening the park, practically asking for new trouble. They never learn, right? I know it's not gonna happen, but I'd welcome a cameo shot of Dr. Grant or Dr. Malcolm saying "told you so!"

Greed is a major theme in the book, I think it will be in this movie too.

I've read that the genetically modified dinosaur was created because after 10 years of operation the novelty has worn off and visitor numbers have started to decline, hence the need for bigger better attractions.

Khrz
11-26-2014, 05:33 AM
Holy shit I was right... (http://imgur.com/a/ou5o6)

Alexandros
11-26-2014, 06:54 AM
Holy shit I was right... (http://imgur.com/a/ou5o6)

The concept art is pretty cool though.

On the whole, just the central concept of a film is rarely enough to make it or break it, it's how it will be handled. So, genetically modified dinosaurs, sure, ok. Let's see how it goes.

Khrz
11-26-2014, 07:11 AM
The concept art is pretty cool though.

On the whole, just the central concept of a film is rarely enough to make it or break it, it's how it will be handled. So, genetically modified dinosaurs, sure, ok. Let's see how it goes.

To be fair, for productions of such a level, no matter how lame the concept itself, the concept art is usually very, very cool. I tend to actually prefer those over the final product, because during that process the artists go wild in every direction in an attempt to nail it. Comparatively, what ends up showing on screen is usually pretty vanilla in comparison.

And I definitely agree with you. Alien, which is one of my favorite movies, has a very tired trope as a basis, and one of the lamest twists ever coming out of absolutely nowhere, namely "suddenly, surprise android !".
That's why you see so many actors trapped in shitty movies ; There is no way to know how a film will be just by the script alone. It can all feel right and end up being butchered by the film maker or the producers, or sound really stupid and end up being handled brilliantly.

mfte
11-26-2014, 01:36 PM
http://www.animateit.net/data/media/nov2011/f44ocl.gif

Dream
11-26-2014, 08:15 PM
Quote from Colin Trevorrow about the Genetically modified dino:

"Yes, there will be one new dinosaur created by the park’s geneticists. The gaps in her sequence were filled with DNA from other species, much like the genome in the first film was completed with frog DNA. This creation exists to fulfill a corporate mandate—they want something bigger, louder, with more teeth. And that’s what they get. I know the idea of a modified dinosaur put a lot of fans on red alert, and I understand it. But we aren’t doing anything here that Crichton didn’t suggest in his novels. This animal is not a mutant freak. It doesn’t have a snake’s head or octopus tentacles. It’s a dinosaur, created in the same way the others were, but now the genetics have gone to the next level. For me, it’s a natural evolution of the technology introduced in the first film. Maybe it sounds crazy, but most of my favorite movies sound crazy when you describe them in a single sentence. … We’re trying to tell a bold new story that doesn’t rely on a proven formula, because the movies we watch over and over again are the ones that surprised us, that worked when they shouldn’t have. I understand the risks of leaving the safe zone. We’ve all been disappointed by new installments of the stories we love. But with all this talk of filmmakers “ruining our childhood”, we forget that right now is someone else’s childhood. This is their time. And I have to build something that can take them to the same place those earlier films took us. It may not happen in the same way everyone expects it to, but it’s the way I believe it needs to happen."

http://www.slashfilm.com/jurassic-world-plot-details-colin-treverrow/

TheyCallMeDrug
11-26-2014, 10:37 PM
http://www.animateit.net/data/media/nov2011/f44ocl.gif

yes yes yes

Charmingly Miserable
11-26-2014, 11:55 PM
My 7 year old daughter, who loves dinosaurs and loved all the other JP movies, was like meh to this. I think I'll go by myself then.....

Substance242
11-27-2014, 02:46 AM
Speaking about children and dinosaurs, here's something from the funniest american writer:

http://books.google.sk/books?id=8nx8v2FVZ24C&lpg=PA73&ots=lrTdoTGa19&dq=dave%20barry%20dinosaurs%20children&hl=sk&pg=PA73#v=onepage&q=dave%20barry%20dinosaurs%20children&f=false

Jinsai
11-27-2014, 05:03 AM
seriously though.... this movie looks like it's going to be really really bad...
Like, it's going to be stupid, and it's going to suck.

You watched this trailer and didn't feel that way?

howdidislipinto
11-27-2014, 05:25 AM
I've always felt the Jurassic Park movies don't understand themselves thematically. In both movies, science is treated as the enemy (the first in particular.) Constant preachiness and hitting-us-over-the-head that we can't play god (whatever that means), etc etc. Yet, in the movies, science and technology function flawlessly (except for the breeding, which would've been an easy fix with barely any deaths involved). It was a perfectly manageable system. Human greed is where all disaster sprung from. Greed is always the cause of all problems in both flicks, but all the characters act as if it's science and man's need/want to keep exploring new possibilities.

All of that to say: Pratt's reaction to the words "genetically modified" -- a loaded term these days -- really made me laugh. They genetically "modified" the creatures they genetically engineered? Does that REALLY make it more scary, Mr. Dinosaur Hunter?

Since they're staying true to science being the villain, I do at least hope they stay true to the t-rex always being the hero(ine).

Khrz
11-27-2014, 06:10 AM
I always thought that the theme was about scientists trying to push boundaries, convinced that they control the whole process, while nature and humanity are unpredictable forces that given enough time will eventually disrupt your best laid out plans. It's scientists thinking in a laboratory context which is an extremely controlled environment, forgetting that reality is the exact opposite.
So yeah, science works flawlessly, as it usually does, until the point where it's out of the lab and into the field, where you can't control every parameter. And that margin of error is where catastrophe eventually lies.

But yeah, in the end a GM dinosaur doesn't change much, it's not like the first ones were actually 100% genuine dinosaurs either. They were faithful to what we know of them, they had a majority of the original DNA, but the gaps in the genetic code were filled with various saurians and amphibians' genes, as far as I recall...

bruised
11-27-2014, 08:34 AM
Trailer looked cool!

Sutekh
11-27-2014, 08:54 AM
The theme of the books was chaos and entropy, the films kind of lost that and went more for the perils of science/indomitable nature thing. But the point was more along the lines of the more energy and potential is tied up in a system, the more catastrophic the collapse - and the nature of reality means it will tend towards collapse. The guy sabotages the system, but also there is a huge storm that hits the island - the problem is neither man nor nature but both - reality itself will almost conspire against any attempt at subduing it

the books are banging and the 2nd one is very scary. New trailer looks ok, I'm sure it will be enjoyable but yes it looks very daft. Why would you make a super dinosaur, why would you give it opposable thumbs, why would you keep it in a theme park full of general public, etc etc

marodi
11-27-2014, 12:40 PM
seriously though.... this movie looks like it's going to be really really bad...
Like, it's going to be stupid, and it's going to suck.

You watched this trailer and didn't feel that way?

The 10 year old kid who still live inside my forty something body doesn't feel that way at all because DINOSAURS!!!

The adult in me does see the potential for failure indeed.

Sutekh
11-27-2014, 01:05 PM
To be fair, for productions of such a level, no matter how lame the concept itself, the concept art is usually very, very cool. I tend to actually prefer those over the final product, because during that process the artists go wild in every direction in an attempt to nail it. Comparatively, what ends up showing on screen is usually pretty vanilla in comparison.

And I definitely agree with you. Alien, which is one of my favorite movies, has a very tired trope as a basis, and one of the lamest twists ever coming out of absolutely nowhere, namely "suddenly, surprise android !".
That's why you see so many actors trapped in shitty movies ; There is no way to know how a film will be just by the script alone. It can all feel right and end up being butchered by the film maker or the producers, or sound really stupid and end up being handled brilliantly.

Funny you should mention Alien because that last bit you wrote sums up his experience with alien resurrection.. I seem to remember him saying they used the story, characters and lines from the script he wrote... and yet it turned out NOTHING like he envisaged/wanted it to

howdidislipinto
11-27-2014, 05:20 PM
The guy sabotages the system, but also there is a huge storm that hits the island - the problem is neither man nor nature but both - reality itself will almost conspire against any attempt at subduing it

But the island was totally prepared for a huge storm, and likewise would have totally adjusted to/fixed the breeding. All catastrophe came from Nedry's greed in the first one, and Hammond Jr's greed in the second one. All the anti-science nonsense everyone is sprouting is dumb. We can handle a zoo. The basis for the argument every protagonist makes in the first film is some pseudo-religious "how dare we do this, how dare we challenge god" nonsense. (Even when they say "nature" or "life," they clearly mean god,)

I supposed Hammond's speech at the end of Lost World makes up for it all a little, but it's like all the characters (and maybe the writers) are blind to the fact that all their problems come NOT from the amazing science that created those beautiful creatures, but that assholes keep trying to make money off of them.

onthewall2983
11-27-2014, 05:51 PM
It's almost tragic how little Spielberg's name as a producer means anymore, as compared to the 80's when he produced stuff like Back To The Future, arguably the greatest "80's movie" ever. He didn't do as much of that in the following decades, focusing on his own works and getting Dreamworks up and running. Next thing we know he's backing Michael Bay movies, and I won't even go into what he's doing on TV now.

Sad.

hellospaceboy
11-27-2014, 07:26 PM
To be fair, as stupid as the trailer looked, there's potential for this movie to be a lot of fun! I know I will be there opening night.

ImTheWiseJanitor
11-27-2014, 11:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCvz9vk_XWA

WorzelG
11-28-2014, 01:19 AM
We can handle a zoo.
But animals escape from zoos all the time. I love the concept of bringing dinosaurs back but I think there could be dire consequences. And yes, I think the preachiness of the film was off-putting particularly Ian malcolm which is a problem with the script, very heavy handed

Ryan
11-28-2014, 06:24 PM
Needs a resurrected Richard Attenborough.

Vertigo
11-29-2014, 06:12 AM
Looks like the Tyrannosaurus in JW is the same one as in JP1, it has the scars on its neck from where it was mauled by the raptor.

Khrz
12-04-2014, 02:58 PM
I supposed Hammond's speech at the end of Lost World makes up for it all a little, but it's like all the characters (and maybe the writers) are blind to the fact that all their problems come NOT from the amazing science that created those beautiful creatures, but that assholes keep trying to make money off of them.

And apparently, greed is once again the cause of all things evil this time around. Concerning the modified dinosaur :


“There is no shortage of awesome [real] dinosaurs. We could have populated this entire story with new species that haven’t been in any of these movies. But this new creation is what gave me a reason to tell another Jurassic Park story. We have the most awe-inspiring creatures to ever walk the Earth right in front of us, but for some reason that’s not enough. We’re always hungry for the next thing, and those who profit from it are always looking to feed that hunger. The focus groups want something bigger than a T-Rex. And that’s what they get.”

Bachy
01-06-2015, 07:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyuGyq22Ris

dlb
02-02-2015, 04:02 AM
Well, it's here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mvWuky1g0g&x-yt-ts=1422579428&x-yt-cl=85114404#t=17

They seem to really have reworked the CGI from the last trailer which is good! The Mosasaurus and the Gallimimusses all look better. I'm liking this trailer a lot more than the first, but I still have the fear that they might have exagerated a bit in places. A Stegosaurus stampede? Hmmm... And while I really like the idea of making the raptors special once more by having Pratt act as a lion-tamer somewhat I think they look a bit bulky.

I still can't figure much of the new hybrid. The leaked images looked okay and what we see from the trailer is quite cool as well... And still, no T-Rex as of yet! Guess they save him up for the trailers before the actual release.

kdrcraig
02-02-2015, 08:13 AM
Yeah I think the new trailer is leaps and bounds better than the first. Back to being excited for this

Millionaire
02-03-2015, 07:37 AM
It does do a better job of conveying the two 'iffy' ideas: the hybrid dino and the raptor training. The hybrid in particular seems like more of a threat. I'm still not sold on them, but the new footage is making me warm up to them a bit.

Some of these big movies need to put out better first trailers. Try should try not to blow too much of the plot and work on building intrigue with visuals. Get whoever made that Mad Max trailer and let them go to work.

Conan The Barbarian
02-03-2015, 11:03 AM
The trailer lost me at trained raptors.

dlb
02-03-2015, 11:19 AM
Well, there a wild animal trainers in real life and since the park in this movie is open for several years now, that is pretty much the only plot point they could dive into to make it somewhat fresh. I just hope it's still shown in the movie that they are probably more likely to rip his head off than actually follow by foot. Either way, the T-Rex in the first movie was easily distracted into playfull behaviour aswell.

Yet again you could argue why the I-Rex is so vicious and why one would want to keep such an animal. I hope they have a somewhat plausible explanation on why they kept him or why he becomes so furious. I've warmed up to him as a hybrid a bit with this trailer.

And I strongly agree with Millionaire. Just a few glimpses of neat visuals to keep people satisfied. That's one of the reasons the new Star Wars trailer did so well IMHO. It basically did not show anything. So maybe just show a few glimpses of a happy running park with all the JP logos, toys etc, and then have a T-Rex roar at the end of it and then BAMM "the park is open". People know what's up but you haven't spoiled anything actually.

Reznor2112
02-06-2015, 10:45 AM
Im thinking the raptors will be the "main" protagonist in trying to stop the I-Rex, but I guarantee you they bring back the T-Rex to save the fuckin day.

Someone has already suggested that BDH is using the flare in the trailer to get the attention of the T-Rex. It wouldn't surprise me if the 3rd act of this film was very reminiscent of the recent Godzilla film. T-Rex vs. I-Rex battle and everyone in the theater cheering.

screwdriver
02-06-2015, 03:06 PM
this movie = yawn

marodi
02-06-2015, 07:10 PM
That TV spot had me warming up a bit more for the movie. I think a raptor trainer is the most badass job ever. Heck, if we're accepting the cloning of dinosaurs... why not have them trained?

But I finally figured out what it was that had me nostalgic with the first trailer: it's the Jurassic Park theme slowly being played on the piano. Brought me right back to the first movie. They know how to get us hooked, those bastards!

dlb
02-21-2015, 10:32 AM
Oh well, this has me worried: https://twitter.com/SWinstonSchool/status/568578222792638464

neorev
02-21-2015, 11:09 PM
Oh well, this has me worried: https://twitter.com/SWinstonSchool/status/568578222792638464

Oh wow... not a good sign at all. Makes me kind of sad. So Stan Winston studios got the shaft on this one?

Vertigo
02-22-2015, 02:39 AM
No, they're working on the new film; the studio's called Legacy now. Most of JP's principal effects guys were on board too last time I checked, including Phil Tippett (puppeteer, responsible for the brilliantly lifelike animations in JP). But you can tell from the trailer that there will be a lot of CGI.

Microwave Jellyfish
03-29-2015, 08:43 PM
https://youtu.be/EGNrkvTTM4k

neorev
04-20-2015, 12:38 PM
New trailer with A LOT more dino action...
http://youtu.be/aJJrkyHas78

avesjohn
04-20-2015, 02:17 PM
There's a damn good reason why Jurassic World is one of my three most anticipated movies this year. (The other two being Avengers: Age of Ultron and Star Wars: The Force Awakens.) That new trailer just sent my hype through the roof.

Vertigo
04-20-2015, 04:50 PM
Not forgetting SPECTRE, and Fast & Furious 7's already broken records for its respective series. It's a slightly ridiculous year for top-drawer franchises.

dlb
04-21-2015, 03:55 PM
The new trailer is totally over the top and maybe a tad too much. Then again this looks really great and promises some fantastic dino-action. I like the fact that the rapotrs are always something special in these movies. My only hope is that the T-Rex gets his fame back after JP3 and won't stand in the shadows of the Indominus Rex.

I fear that the slightly romantic and cheesy aspect of the first movie is totally gone and replaced by action extravaganza, either way this is the perfect summer blockbuster.

neorev
04-21-2015, 05:33 PM
So I'm guessing from the trailer (Spoiler/Guess below)...
I'm guessing the Indominus Rex controls the carnivore dinosaurs to do its bidding and attack.
Looks like they use the raptors to try and hunt it down, but they turn on the humans when they meet the Indominus Rex.

dlb
04-22-2015, 01:39 AM
So I'm guessing from the trailer (Spoiler/Guess below)...
I'm guessing the Indominus Rex controls the carnivore dinosaurs to do its bidding and attack.
Looks like they use the raptors to try and hunt it down, but they turn on the humans when they meet the Indominus Rex.

That could very well be although I hope it doesn't have any mind-bending abilities due to it's hybrid heritage. But it definitely looks like that from the trailer that it at least makes the other dinosaurs somewhat alert to their captive situation. People suspect a huge stand-off with the T-Rex at the end with both titans dying. We will see...

ManOfAtom
04-22-2015, 02:13 AM
Spoiler, in as much as its replies to the above:

It's not mind control, the trailer sets it up with the first line. The raptors are responsive, according to Emmet, if you understand them and empathise with their base instincts. The I Rex is hunting for sport, which the raptors understand and want in on as well. Looks to me like the Raptors and I Rex realise they are on the same side. The I Rex is intelligent enough to communicate, and the Raptors are intelligent enough to understand.

Self.Destructive.Pattern
04-22-2015, 10:26 PM
My god, this movie looks awful. That shot of the two younger kids looks like something ripped straight from the first movie, and it well.. and the CGI just looks really bad. The first movie was almost considered horror in some aspects, and the dinos actually looked somewhat real. The new trailer just left a longer bad taste in my mouth. I'm sure when I eventually see it, there will be some aspects I will like about it... but for now it seems doomed for my taste.

dlb
04-23-2015, 06:09 AM
Spoiler, in as much as its replies to the above:

It's not mind control, the trailer sets it up with the first line. The raptors are responsive, according to Emmet, if you understand them and empathise with their base instincts. The I Rex is hunting for sport, which the raptors understand and want in on as well. Looks to me like the Raptors and I Rex realise they are on the same side. The I Rex is intelligent enough to communicate, and the Raptors are intelligent enough to understand.

well, that would explain the "they are communicating" line. It may be the raptors after chasing for the I-Rex they start to bond with it. We will see, only a couple of weeks to go.

neorev
05-01-2015, 01:31 AM
another shot i saw from the trailer were the raptors chasing them in some sort of ambulance or truck. looks like they pull someone into the back as the raptor tries to get in and grab them as they're driving. it made me think of the part in The Lost World book after they pull Arby out of the raptor nest and get chased with the raptors jumping all over the jeep. they run out of gas just as the jeep is going uphill and almost stop dead until they get over and start heading downhill and able to cruise away from the raptors. i wonder if the new dino will be able to camouflage itself like the Carnotaurus in the second book. curious if they'll bum any unused elements from the books. the T-rex on the jungle river would have been amazing to see. i think they wanted to film it for the original movie, but the technology at the time made them not go for it.

dlb
05-23-2015, 12:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9B7J4uEW_s

this one really got me. I hope we get this scene maybe as an opening scene and I generally hope the movie is way more darker than the trailer makes it out to be. I hope instead of all the action in the trailerswe get more suspenseful moments either way.

TheyCallMeDrug
06-07-2015, 08:51 PM
got my tickets for thursday

mfte
06-10-2015, 09:12 AM
Reviews are making it sound not bad

http://www.nme.com/movies/reviews/jurassic-world-film-review/16122?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=jurassicworld

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/10/jurassic-world-review

http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/jun/10/jurassic-world-review-chris-pratt-steven-spielberg-dinosaur-movie

Reznor2112
06-10-2015, 10:19 AM
My mom happens to work for Hilton and they are doing a private advance screening tonight for Hilton employees at our biggest theater that won the drawing and she won.

So I will be seeing it tonight!!!! So fucking excited!!!

dlb
06-10-2015, 02:38 PM
will be seing it on friday. 3d though, but let's see if it adds anything to the fun. can't wait to finally see the t-rex again on screen.

marodi
06-10-2015, 04:12 PM
can't wait to finally see the t-rex again on screen.

You know it's the same T-Rex who was in Jurrasic Park, right? The lawyer eating one? She's still alive and I'm hoping she's still going to kick ass.

thefragile_jake
06-10-2015, 05:15 PM
Checking it out tomorrow. This has been the only summer movie I've been excited for honestly.

TheyCallMeDrug
06-11-2015, 08:57 PM
just saw it in IMAX 3d and it was a great movie. doesn't really come close to the original but it was a lot of fun to watch as an action movie. seeing the park fully realized was great too.

Wretchedest
06-12-2015, 03:54 AM
Definitely one of the best things was seeing the park in action. The last 45 minutes is a series of escalating movies with one big payoff after another. That said the dialogue is horribly stupid.

Reznor2112
06-12-2015, 07:32 AM
Fantastic movie. Will be seeing it again!

thefragile_jake
06-12-2015, 10:55 AM
Man, it really exceeded my expectations. You know you had fun at a movie when you can't stop thinking about it and you want to experience it again as soon as possible. This really feels like the franchise's genuine sequel and I can see the flaws that people have with it, but I actually enjoyed myself in a way I hadn't with a summer movie in the longest time.

Which is a joy cause I think I've honestly been disappointed in some form or fashion with every summer movie I had been looking forward to for the last five years, excluding Dawn of the Planet of the Apes.

r_z
06-12-2015, 11:13 AM
Did you see Fury Road? How does this movie campare?

thefragile_jake
06-12-2015, 11:20 AM
Did you see Fury Road? How does this movie campare?

Haven't seen Fury Road yet and to be honest, I wasn't hyped for that film at all when it was announced or after the trailers. Yeah I get that it's a critical darling right now and I'm sure I'll enjoy it...but the Mad Max franchise wasn't something I was as passionate about. So I'll have to get back to ya on that one.

Vertigo
06-12-2015, 11:32 AM
Both very fun action spectacles, both not particularly clever (JW arguably to a greater degree), both pretty damn well made with a strong aesthetic (Mad Max arguably more so, but personally the post-apocalyptic look doesn't appeal, chained flamethrowing guitarist aside).

Wretchedest
06-12-2015, 12:11 PM
Did you see Fury Road? How does this movie campare?

I think Mad Max is by far the better movie. It's a hell of a lot more intelligent, and the craftsmanship behind it is far more interesting.

Jurassic world is constantly stupid, and its plot is driven entirely by idiocy. Every catalyzing moment is somebody doing something stupid. The children are unbearable. They are the emotional antethesis to dinosaurs.

That said, some of the concepts in the movie are totally awesome, for instance, seeing the park fully realized... And something else kind of spoilerish, lets call it the natural progression of the series obsession with how smart velociraptors are, and when it finally decides to focus on dinosaurs, and abandon its focus on super hollow human characters, it gives us 45 minutes of pure dinisaur excitement.

valiantsteed
06-13-2015, 08:21 AM
Ugh. I am not doing well this summer. I think I was one of the only people on the planet who didn't love Mad Max, and I came in here expecting to see people tear JW to shreds but seems as most people liked that, too.

So yeah, I clearly don't know what's going on any more. And this is coming from someone who generally gives blockbusters a pass for being what they are. I actually don't even mind Michael Bay so it's not as though I'm a popcorn snob by any means.

But I'm sorry this was simply Megalodon vs Godzilla with Dinosaurs, not a scientific exploration into the world of palaeontology and archaeology that I wanted or that it easily could have been. It had some cool elements sure I'll give it that, but the sum definitely did not equal the parts for me. It was a horror movie that wasn't scary, and it was a science fiction movie that wasn't intelligent. Add in mostly bad acting, and a lame duck story? As someone who really wanted to love this film I can only justifying polishing a turd so much. This film did absolutely nothing to advance the JP mythology I had come to know and left me feeling hollow and disappointed. I expected at the least, a slightly more cerebral and well thought out film from Mr. Trevorrow.

It's a shame. Well at least it's making money. Maybe the sequel will be handled better.

blackholesun
06-14-2015, 01:45 AM
Ugh. I am not doing well this summer. I think I was one of the only people on the planet who didn't love Mad Max, and I came in here expecting to see people tear JW to shreds but seems as most people liked that, too.

So yeah, I clearly don't know what's going on any more. And this is coming from someone who generally gives blockbusters a pass for being what they are. I actually don't even mind Michael Bay so it's not as though I'm a popcorn snob by any means.

But I'm sorry this was simply Megalodon vs Godzilla with Dinosaurs, not a scientific exploration into the world of palaeontology and archaeology that I wanted or that it easily could have been. It had some cool elements sure I'll give it that, but the sum definitely did not equal the parts for me. It was a horror movie that wasn't scary, and it was a science fiction movie that wasn't intelligent. Add in mostly bad acting, and a lame duck story? As someone who really wanted to love this film I can only justifying polishing a turd so much. This film did absolutely nothing to advance the JP mythology I had come to know and left me feeling hollow and disappointed. I expected at the least, a slightly more cerebral and well thought out film from Mr. Trevorrow.

It's a shame. Well at least it's making money. Maybe the sequel will be handled better.

It's an action movie about/with dinosaurs. I don't know if anyone should be going into the theater to watch this expecting something cerebral or well thought out.

I saw it today and enjoyed it for what it was. It was definite fan service. If you look deeply into it, it's a movie with a ton of issues, but on the surface it's a fun summer blockbuster. Good times to be had.

valiantsteed
06-14-2015, 07:05 AM
It's an action movie about/with dinosaurs. I don't know if anyone should be going into the theater to watch this expecting something cerebral or well thought out.



Why not? The first film was extremely well thought out. The second wasn't as much so, but at least it wasn't a "Dinosaur vs Dinosaur" battle wars movie. It wasn't until the third film where they tried to sell the Spino vs T-Rex angle and this took that aspect and exploded it into something so much more ridiculous. To me there is a big difference between action movie, and a fight movie.

I actually saw little to no fan service save for a t-shirt and the bringing back of Henry Wu. I mostly saw dinosaurs fighting other dinosaurs and bad acting, something the first film had none of (save for about 15 seconds of Raptors/T-Rex in the end, but that was less about them fighting and more about the sheer domination of the t-rex, and the obvious loophole so the characters could escape). Dinosaur Wars is not how this franchise started. Not even close. To me this wasn't Jurassic Park, this was Godzilla. Nothing against Godzilla, but If I wanted that, I'd go watch Godzilla. I was hoping for something different. But even if I wasn't, I still feel like it failed at being a good Godzilla movie. If T-Rex is Godzilla, you only got about 4 minutes of screen time with him, and on top of that, he got absolutely owned like a bitch and nearly had his neck broken in thirty seconds. Not exactly the king of the dinosaurs there.

Glad you liked it though. Wish I did.

Exocet
06-14-2015, 11:42 AM
This film had the biggest worldwide opening of all time, a Phenomenal 500 MILLION in 2 days of being released. Absolutely astonishing numbers.
Even by todays standards, that is insane amount.

Sutekh
06-14-2015, 12:08 PM
Why not? The first film was extremely well thought out.


plugging sequence gaps in essentially avian creatures using amphibian dna? double size bald velociraptors? that weird crested spitting dilophosaur... love that film to bits but it was always hokum

JW looks as cack as the two sequels tbh, I will watch it but I have a feeling i'll be leaving the cinema muttering "must go faster...must go faster"

Vertigo
06-14-2015, 03:02 PM
plugging sequence gaps in essentially avian creatures using amphibian dna?

1 - It wasn't known for sure that birds were descended from dinosaurs until around the millenium; before 1996 we didn't even have any dinofuzz to go on.
2 - In the book, it explains that DNA from a wide array of species is used to patch unreadable gene strands, depending on what seems the closest match for the surrounding base pairs.


double size bald velociraptors?

The giant size is because they're not Velociraptor, in the book or film. Crichton read about very large 'Velociraptor' remains that had been found in Mongolia, and conformed to Gregory S. Paul's assumption that the find would be attributable to the Velociraptor genus - ultimately the animal took until 1999 to formally describe, and was given the name Achillobator. Sadly even the filmmakers seem to be unaware of this point. In the films, the visual basis for the animal is Deinonychus, extrapolating an Achillobator-sized animal from that basis - you can tell by looking at the skull.
Scaly skin is because feathered dromaeosaurs weren't known until 2000. Hell, fuzzy dinosaurs weren't known until 1996.


that weird crested spitting dilophosaur

Well, for starters, Dilophosaurus did have two weird crests. Crichton wrote Dilophosaurus as venomous because at the time, it was thought to have such a weak jaw that it couldn't have been used to grab struggling prey, but the animal did have some extraordinarily long, fang-like teeth. The consensus has changed since then, and it's now thought Dilophosaurus' bite was capable of subduing large targets without chemical assistance.
As for the venom spitting and neck frill, the point of it was that some features just don't fossilise. There's no telling what some of these animals could have looked like, or what behaviours and abilities they may have had. Dilophosaurus' extra features in Jurassic Park are speculative restorations, and one of the best-received and most popular dinosaur books of the last couple of years (All Yesterdays) focuses on that exact subject.

They did get the head shape wrong, but even then, it's from using the published paper on the (incomplete) holotype, rather than being wilfully ignorant as many of Jurassic World's restorations are.


Jurassic Park was one of the most intelligent and heavily researched summer blockbusters of all time, and as such it's in a different league to its sequels.

Sutekh
06-14-2015, 03:30 PM
ok some good points but ;

1. they talk about it in the film, and as theoretical as it was at the time, it's still more plausible than frog dna (zero links or theorised links, even then the case for birds was way stronger). The frogs are shoehorned in to help the plot along (dinosaurs breeding).

2. Doesn't matter if it was in the book, it's not something that is really possible which is the issue I take

As for velociraptors, they are definitely referred to as velociraptors in the film, so... end of, surely? Don't know why they didn't just use Deinonychus tbh. Fair enough on the baldness - that was a pretty unreasonable criticism, their depiction is dated rather than flawed

Some good points about dilophosaurus but I'm afraid I have to reject the "some things might not fossilise" argument, as by that rationale they could have intelligent squid on their heads controlling their minds and it technically wouldnt be ridiculous. Fair enough if it was a going theory at the time though, I was under the impression that they just fabricated it.

It's definitely a smarter breed of film and I'm very fond of it, but it does ask you to make a few leaps, the central premise being the main one. It would have to be set quite far into the future for the technologies on display to exist & the sequence gap plugging thing is pure bobbins, with dna that old? mapping the genome would be like attempting a jigsaw that's been through a blender and managing to 100% successfully fill in the gaps using pictures cut out from a randomnly chosen book. It rocks and I can quote it word for word but it does have this problematic bit

I feel like I'm cussing my mum here... I love JP, seriously! Yep the sequels were awful... won't someone make a graphic novel of both books

dlb
06-14-2015, 03:40 PM
No one in 1993 could know how much of a cultural impact this movie would have and how much it manifestaded a certain look especially for the T-Rex. It was well researched in 1993 and even in 1997. It would have been a huuuuuge and brave approach of the film makers to go on and change the established look of the T-Rex and the Raptors to what science knew in 2003 when JP3 came out. They acknowledged the feathers with a revamped look of the raptors, but I highly doubt that movie-goers and JP-fans would have appreciated a new look of the T-Rex and they certainly wouldn't in 2015 with JW.

One aspect I have to give in though is that JP has indeed become a monster flick in certain ways with its focus on dino vs dino action. Yet that is what drives most of recent Dinosaur documentaries aswell and I guess the filmmakers know that and tried to appeal to a broader audience.

That said, I really enjoyed JW for what it is. An over-the-top summer blockbuster and a theme park ride. I would have wished for something more like JP and JP2 but I am more than satisfied that we didn't get another JP3. I didn't really like the pteranodons and the mosasaurus actually overstayed it's presence in the movie for my taste but apart from a few other cringe-worthy scenes I really dug the Indominus Rex, some scarier and more brutal parts and of course the raptors although I still don't know what feels off to me about their proportions compared to the other movies. And for god's sake I LOVED the T-Rex!

I sincerely hope that this will come out as an extended cut and someone would take the time to adjust the colors akin to the first two movies. I was missing a bit of eery atmossphere here and there and would have wished that the camera moved a bit slower in certain cases to build up tension. The movie could have used some quiet passages here and there and some more peaceful focus on some dinosaurs.

Apart from Pratt and Dr Wu the characters were pretty stale though. Nothing deep but also no true stereotypes like Malcom, Grant and Hammond were in the first movie.

It's got its major flaws but some incredible highlights and huge fan-service in parts. I'd definitely like to see it again, even if it's just for the ending.

Favorite scenes? the raptors confronting the I-Rex, the I-Rex coming out of its camouflage and of course the T-Rex being released

What did I hate? the pteranodons were more impressive in JP3, the mosasaurus doing it's signature jump for three times in the movie put me off, the finishing of the I-Rex could have been a bit more creepier, brutal and not so quick despite that I don't like the mosasaurus from the start

And yes, I just KNEW what they would do as a last scene of the movie. :D

Archive_Reports
06-14-2015, 04:18 PM
It's an action movie about/with dinosaurs. I don't know if anyone should be going into the theater to watch this expecting something cerebral or well thought out.

I saw it today and enjoyed it for what it was. It was definite fan service. If you look deeply into it, it's a movie with a ton of issues, but on the surface it's a fun summer blockbuster. Good times to be had.

You can say the same thing about Bayformers, but those get shit all over.

dlb
06-14-2015, 04:58 PM
Also, did the T-Rex really never do his signature roar in the movie?. That definitely needs to be added in a fan-edit.

tony.parente
06-14-2015, 07:16 PM
Don't feel like writing a huge in depth review but if you're a huge Jurassic Park fan and want a fun, exciting movie about raptors, t-rexes, explosions and Chris Pratt this movie is a 10/10.

If you frown a lot, look for the negative and prefer high brow resting bitch face movies this probably isn't for you.

Maul
06-14-2015, 07:40 PM
Really fun movie. Some dumb moments but overall a nice experience.

Space Suicide
06-14-2015, 08:55 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHfbNirUYAA-EJH.jpg

I'll see the movie next weekend.

neorev
06-14-2015, 09:12 PM
Loved the first half, but slowly gotten more and more absurd as the second half went on.

ManBurning
06-14-2015, 10:26 PM
Loved the first half, but slowly gotten more and more absurd as the second half went on.

Interesting. For me, it was the other way around. Half way through the movie I was worried, as I still hadn't gotten into it. It wasn't until after the Kids getting attacked in the Gyrosphere by the I-rex scene that I was FINALLY getting into the movie. After that, the movie just got better and better, until the end, which in my opinion was the ultimate payoff of all 4 films.

This movie is what the original sequel SHOULD have been. The more I think about it, the lost world and JP3 are terrible terrible movies. The only thing that could have made this movie better would have been a cameo from either Allan Grant or Ian Malcolm. If I were to rate this on a scale from 1-10 with the oiriginal Jurassic Park being a 10, I'd say this was an 8/10.

For what it's worth, I also did not watch a single trailer and had no idea what this movie was about other than it was a fully functioning theme park and they have trained raptors. I went into this movie completely blind, and I think due to that, I enjoyed it more. I watched the trailers after I saw the film and was shocked how much of the movie they showed... I mean, they should A LOT of essentials points to the plot. But, I guess that's just how trailers are these days... For what it's worth, I went back and watched the original JP trailer and... WOW, that is how a trailer is done! They barely show any of the dinosaurs or give away any of the plot points in the trailer at all. Trailers need to be more like that.

telee.kom
06-15-2015, 03:10 AM
I think it was okay, definitely better than I expected from the trailers. The script was dumb as hell to the point it really took you out of the movie how none of this was making any sense. There are movies where I can forgive things not making sense and I was pretty much ready for doing this in case of JW, but my god so many things in this movie was just absolutely idiotic.


Cris Pratt was great, in the end I liked Bryce Dallas Howard also, even though I gotta say that her acting were kinda off sometimes (like was she having an orgasm in that helicopter at the start of the movie or what?), they had great chemistry together I think. The child actors were godawful, I simply wanted to strangle the older one everytime he was on screen, could you use even more clichéd archetype of a bored millenial teenager next time pretty please? Vincent D'nofrio I love you, but his character was just awfully written and his plot was downright retarded.


It wasn't boring though and I guess that's what counts the most, I think they captured the atmosphere really well and just had a good time watching it.

Reznor2112
06-15-2015, 09:35 AM
Also, did the T-Rex really never do his signature roar in the movie?. That definitely needs to be added in a fan-edit.


yes...it did. Right before the end credits.

avesjohn
06-15-2015, 05:12 PM
Saw this movie with my family (both parents, plus my younger brother and his fiancee) at a Thursday night showing. Speaking as a huge Jurassic Park fan, who appreciates the more cerebral, suspenseful take of the first film as well as (to a lesser extent no doubt clouded by childhood nostalgia) the misstep of The Lost World and the mindless blockbuster that was JP3, I loved Jurassic World. The previous sequels did little to advance the overall plot of the series; by contrast, JW finally gave us a fully-functioning dinosaur park, explored the greater potential of the genetic engineering via the I. rex, and gave us the most likable characters since the first film. It really is the sequel Jurassic Park deserved; all it needed to be even better was a cameo from Grant and/or Malcolm (perhaps in a TV interview expressing their disapproval of the new park) and another legit Dilophosaurus scene. Sure, JW had a few flaws in the writing (what film doesn't?), and the finale was a bit over-the-top, but none of that was enough to bring my opinion down significantly. I give it a solid 7-8/10.

thefragile_jake
06-15-2015, 05:16 PM
Currently hold the biggest Box Office Weekend in history. (http://variety.com/2015/film/news/jurassic-world-box-office-record-avengers-1201519679/)

Good.


If you frown a lot, look for the negative and prefer high brow resting bitch face movies this probably isn't for you.

This is me and I still totally loved Jurassic World.

tony.parente
06-15-2015, 05:35 PM
Currently hold the biggest Box Office Weekend in history. (http://variety.com/2015/film/news/jurassic-world-box-office-record-avengers-1201519679/)

Good.



This is me and I still totally loved Jurassic World.

I think if you naturally look for things to critique when it comes to movies you'll find LOTS of things to do that with, but if you just like sitting back and enjoying things this will be one of the best movies of the year for you so far...assuming you love the franchise.

Deadpool
06-15-2015, 07:12 PM
This movie was fun! I think I liked Jake Johnson's character the most. I definitely wasn't disappointed because it was almost exactly what I was expecting. My favorite moment was probably when the British assistant got toyed with by the flying dinosaurs and was ultimately drowned/eaten – I thought that was scarier and more effective than anything else in the movie.

We're living in a post-Fury Road world though, so the blockbuster standard has been raised in a really big way, and Jurassic World just didn't live up to that standard. It's an extreme thing to say, but even the least interesting characters in Fury Road were better & more memorable than the most interesting character in Jurassic.

Liquid_Bastard
06-15-2015, 08:58 PM
The only thing I'm concerned about is how the CGI looked? In the trailers, it looks pretty bad.

Substance242
06-16-2015, 04:24 AM
The Sound Design Of Jurassic World (http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2015/06/15/the-sound-design-of-jurassic-world/)

neorev
06-16-2015, 08:11 AM
The Sound Design Of Jurassic World (http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2015/06/15/the-sound-design-of-jurassic-world/)

So according to this sound design making of, the only pratical FX shot was the dying apatosaur scene.
That was my main gripe with this movie, the dinosaurs didn't feel like real animals half the time.
I think that was because a mix of TOO much special FX shots, some not looking realistic at all, as well as the dinos not feeling like animals but more like monsters in their behavior.
Like the raptors didn't feel like they were actually there half the time, which took me out of the scene.
The movie was ok, I loved the first half... but the last half turned downright silly at points.
I get the fan service, but sometimes too much fan service turns into full on cheesiness, cringe-worthy fight scene.
Too bad the movie couldn't keep the awe that the first half of the movie had.
I did like how this movie was a bit darker than the others, but the dinos didn't feel like real animals so that kinda ruins the atomosphere.
The dialogue and acting didn't bother me as much as other people and I didn't find the brothers annoying at all.
As for the sequels, I think I'll find myself watching The Lost World more than this one since the dinos felt more real in The Lost World.

ManOfAtom
06-16-2015, 05:32 PM
The Raptors in the head braces were practical FX surely.

Am I wrong in saying the guy who worked in the control room had a book by Ian Malcom on his desk too?

I thought it was pretty rubbish tbh.

imail724
06-16-2015, 09:56 PM
Am I wrong in saying the guy who worked in the control room had a book by Ian Malcom on his desk too?

Yes he did and so did Bryce Dallas-Howard's assistant in the beginning. Neat little quasi-cameo, although I agree with others who said it would have been nice to have an actual cameo at some point.

ManBurning
06-16-2015, 10:22 PM
Someone on my facebook feed shared this photo...
I looked around on the internet and couldn't find anything about it. So, I'm guessing it's fan made/fake.

And to be honest... I kind of hope it is...

This is going back to the 2004/2005 plot when the 4th installment was still in development, and it was rumored the next film was going to be Dinosaurs with guns.
Taking them to war, using them as a weapon (as discussed briefly in JW) is a stupid, stupid idea. I was worried that when that whole sub-plot about weaponizing the raptors came up in JW that it was going to be the plot of the 5th film... You can totally tell that is what they were trying to set up.

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/t31.0-8/q90/s960x960/10453034_10153427242656241_411710024232944867_o.jp g

I love the Jurassic Park franchise more than any other film franchise out there, but if this is the direction they are going with for the 5th film, call me out. I'm hanging up the towel with this franchise. They should quit while they're ahead and leave the franchise alone on a high note. I think JW is the perfect film to end on. They had the park up and running, and it failed... Time to give up. Anything they do now will be stupid. But... money talks, and this film made half a billion dollars worldwide on opening weekend, sooo..... obviously they're going forward with a 5th film regardless of how bad it's going to be.

neorev
06-17-2015, 03:20 AM
Years ago there was a scrapped idea of having half dino/half human hybrid soldiers.
There's concept art online, this was seriously discussed as an idea for the 4th movie.
I really hope this is not the direction they would go with for the 5th film.
Just end it... leave on a somewhat high note
Don't ruin the legacy of this franchise.

kdrcraig
06-17-2015, 06:37 AM
Saw it last night and thought it was really enjoyable. The military weapon plot was incredibly stupid, I hated it. I really hope that's not where they're taking the franchise because we're obviously going to be getting more movies after how well this one is doing. The brothers were pretty bad, the older one couldn't act to save his life.

I enjoyed all the fan service, it might've been borderline too much but I'm ok with it. The T-Rex was awesome and the Raptors were great as always. The showdown at the end was great.

Also, this was in the parking lot after the movie(sorry for the size, I never post pics on here and don't know how to make it smaller)
http://i.imgur.com/my9Sl0H.jpg

marodi
06-17-2015, 01:37 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CHtaEKpUMAAN8uR.jpg

elevenism
06-18-2015, 12:26 AM
Don't feel like writing a huge in depth review but if you're a huge Jurassic Park fan and want a fun, exciting movie about raptors, t-rexes, explosions and Chris Pratt this movie is a 10/10.


Absolutely.

I saw it night before last, and i might add that it was STUNNING in the top notch 3-D IMAX format.

one of my best theater going experiences of all time was seeing the first JP when i was 12 or so.
the new one brought back a lot of memories.

It wasn't Citizen Kane or whatever, but it was a pretty amazing spectacle that harkened back to JP in just the right ways.
I also felt that it had a couple of cool "meta" jokes.
But most of all, it had massive, realistic dinosaurs. Just like in the first one, the park is incredible BEFORE shit gets hectic, and really thrilling when everything goes sideways.

Sure, it had some pretty big plot holes, not the least of which being "why in the hell would people keep attending a theme park where being eaten alive by dinosaurs is a fairly normal occurrence."

But i don't go to movies like this to see incredible acting or explore fascinating themes about the human condition or to have my mind stimulated by allegorical depth. That's what the ROKU box and the tv in the bedroom are for.

I go see movies like this to say "oh wow, look at that, oh shit, that's amazing, good god!" while i eat popcorns and swill $7 sodas with the ones i love the most.

ManBurning
06-18-2015, 08:16 PM
Limited Edition gift box set announced with statues of the I-Rex VS the T-Rex.

http://www.comingsoon.net/dvd/news/451255-jurassic-world-blu-ray-gift-set-revealed

I might have to pick this one up. It's kind of pricy at $110... But I plan on buying the Blu ray anyway, so what's an extra $80 for some bad-ass looking Dinosaur statues?

Rabbit
06-18-2015, 09:56 PM
Absolutely.

I saw it night before last, and i might add that it was STUNNING in the top notch 3-D IMAX format.

one of my best theater going experiences of all time was seeing the first JP when i was 12 or so.
the new one brought back a lot of memories.

It wasn't Citizen Kane or whatever, but it was a pretty amazing spectacle that harkened back to JP in just the right ways.
I also felt that it had a couple of cool "meta" jokes.
But most of all, it had massive, realistic dinosaurs. Just like in the first one, the park is incredible BEFORE shit gets hectic, and really thrilling when everything goes sideways.

Sure, it had some pretty big plot holes, not the least of which being "why in the hell would people keep attending a theme park where being eaten alive by dinosaurs is a fairly normal occurrence."

But i don't go to movies like this to see incredible acting or explore fascinating themes about the human condition or to have my mind stimulated by allegorical depth. That's what the ROKU box and the tv in the bedroom are for.

I go see movies like this to say "oh wow, look at that, oh shit, that's amazing, good god!" while i eat popcorns and swill $7 sodas with the ones i love the most.
Reviews like this blow my mind. Jurassic World was mediocre at best. Why the general public feels the need to splash all types of praise on a movie that doesn't even depict REAL LOOKING DINOSAURS as paleontologists understand them to be now is a joke.

You do realize we now know many of these dinos had feathers right? The whole thing is a mess. Sure, it had some nice scenes, and Prat is funny enough to carry a ridiculous character but come on. The movie was paper thin even compared to the original JP. What irks me the most is Hollywood yet again making a scientists out to seem retarded and completely evil. When is that shit going to end? Seriously? We're saved by Prat (a U.S marine wouldn't ya know) and his bone head girlfriend that was such an airhead and complete know-nothing that they HAD to show her running in pumps. Shit movie.

But hey T-Rex was cool

elevenism
06-18-2015, 11:50 PM
Reviews like this blow my mind. Jurassic World was mediocre at best. Why the general public feels the need to splash all types of praise on a movie that doesn't even depict REAL LOOKING DINOSAURS as paleontologists understand them to be now is a joke.

You do realize we now know many of these dinos had feathers right? The whole thing is a mess. Sure, it had some nice scenes, and Prat is funny enough to carry a ridiculous character but come on. The movie was paper thin even compared to the original JP. What irks me the most is Hollywood yet again making a scientists out to seem retarded and completely evil. When is that shit going to end? Seriously? We're saved by Prat (a U.S marine wouldn't ya know) and his bone head girlfriend that was such an airhead and complete know-nothing that they HAD to show her running in pumps. Shit movie.

But hey T-Rex was cool

but...but...hey, T-Rex was cool! ;)

i liked the SPECTACLE of it. real-d imax...seeing movies in this format is a whole different ballgame for me.

and when i say realistic looking dinosaurs, i don't mean scientifically accurate. i mean that they look like they are alive.

dude this is absolutely not the kind of movie i watch. At all. Ever.

I was 12 when i saw JP. So nostalgia.

And yeah, "nice scenes," like you said.

That's what i wanted and that's what i got.

Stunning 3-d dinos like the dinos from the first one, a few throwbacks here and there...

honestly i didn't care much about the plot. it could have just been a collection of unrelated scenes and i would have dug the shit out of it.

i'm not saying it should win a fucking oscar or anything.

but was it fun to watch on a massive screen in cutting edge 3d whilst reminiscing about one of my favorite movie going experiences from 22 years ago?

Fuck yes!

ManBurning
06-19-2015, 12:34 AM
After I've had a week to digest my viewing and watch/listen to/read a ton of reviews both positive and negative over the last week, I think I gave too much praise to this film after my first viewing. Sometimes movies are hard to judge whether you liked them immediately after viewing them. It's when the film ends and someone you saw it with immediately asks you what you thought, you find of feel pressured to answer the question right then and there... This is one of those movies, and I feel I may have given it too much praise after my viewing.

As I stated before, I believe I said it in my little review anyway, the film took a while to get going. I was kind of bored with the first half, Especially from the opening Christmas scene, I was confused with what I was watching and what time of the year it was for a moment. Did I walk into the wrong theatre?

While I still think it's better than Jurassic Park 3, and to an extent The Lost World... and I started to ask myself... What did I ever see in those movies to begin with? When The Lost World came out, I skipped school to see it with my friend, we were in grade 9 I think... Saw it twice in the theatre and bought the soundtrack, thought it was amazing in 1997. I re-watch that movie as an adult and think it is ridiculous. Same thing with JP3, I used to be the only person I knew to fight for that movie, saying it wasn't as bad as people think... I watched it maybe, less than 2 months ago to prep for Jurassic World, and it was awful! It literally was the "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 3" of the Jurassic Park series... It was awful.

Now the more I think about it, and read questions and comments about this film on the internet, I am starting to see it follow a similar formula. It seemed good upon first view, but I fear this is not going to be one of those movies that stands the test of movie time. There are movies you can watch over and over and over again and love them more and more upon each viewing, and there are films that get worse the more you watch them... I think this is one that falls in the latter category.I'm afraid of re-watching this film only to really see what it really is, flaws out in the open and all.

Makes me wonder... Did I like the MOVIE or did I just like the last 20 minutes of it?

fillow
06-19-2015, 01:24 AM
Is this film ok in 2D?

RJK
06-19-2015, 01:32 AM
Is this film ok in 2D?

I saw it in 2D and it was fine. It wasn't filmed in 3D to the best of my knowledge.

imail724
06-19-2015, 09:37 AM
Reviews like this blow my mind. Jurassic World was mediocre at best. Why the general public feels the need to splash all types of praise on a movie that doesn't even depict REAL LOOKING DINOSAURS as paleontologists understand them to be now is a joke.

You do realize we now know many of these dinos had feathers right? The whole thing is a mess.
Because the movie is a sequel and they dinosaurs look the way they did in the original, a movie that was made when dinosaurs were believed to look like that. If it was a reboot maybe they would have changed the designs, but as far as I'm concerned it's too late now.

Khrz
06-19-2015, 09:55 AM
As far as I'm concerned, I find it as relevant as lamenting that sci-fi flicks never portray credible alien life. I mean, you're not wrong, but most movies aren't interested in rational speculative portraiture, even solid facts are twisted to fit the narrative, things as simple as how physics or human anatomy work are invented or ignored in favor of cool scenes and effects.
Bemoaning the looks of genetically altered resurrected dinosaurs, kinda missing the point of what that kind of movie is really about, in my opinion... I mean, it would be cool, sure, but everyone knows you're among the 1% of people who really care...

thefragile_jake
06-19-2015, 10:13 AM
Because the movie is a sequel and they dinosaurs look the way they did in the original, a movie that was made when dinosaurs were believed to look like that. If it was a reboot maybe they would have changed the designs, but as far as I'm concerned it's too late now.

They even address this in the film.

Vertigo
06-19-2015, 10:23 AM
What the original movie was about, was showing convincing dinosaurs to the public on film for the first time. They've apparently given up on that.

Khrz
06-19-2015, 10:37 AM
What the original movie was about, was showing convincing dinosaurs to the public on film for the first time. They've apparently given up on that.

I'd argue that it's because they're well aware that it was only partly what made it so successful... Sure, people were thrilled to see "actual" dinosaurs, but the package was much, much bigger than that. And yeah, seeing "updated" dinosaurs would have been a whole lot cooler in my opinion, and they didn't have to follow the same designs : two lines of script could have solved that, somethingsomething formula tidbittidbit genetics, and voilà.
But it's a sequel to a hugely successful action movie. I think they cared a lot more about carrying on from established formulas than trying to reconcile with what the creators had in mind. Every sequel works that way, at least those that weren't written as part of a whole.

elevenism
06-19-2015, 05:36 PM
Jurassic World is about "selling $7 sodas."

They address that too. :)

yeah, see, idk what to say.

to me a really GOOD movie is like, say, as far as recent movies, The Master. The Town. You know, The Social Network. Fucking Inception for that matter.

This thing was a little different for me.

like Khrz says, carrying on the established formula is the order of the day here.

the formula is WOW LOOK AT ALL THIS AWESOME SHIT!

and then Wait! Oh no! The fucking dinosaurs are eating everybody, holy christ, how the fuck did we not see that coming?!

That's really, seriously all it is.

REALLY.

So i judge it on how exciting the dinosaurs look.

and fillow , i wouldn't watch something like this in 2d if i could see it in 3d.

i probably wouldn't watch it at home.

i probably will never watch it again.

but as far as showing big fucking scary dinosaurs on a screen, yeah, it does that really well.

hellospaceboy
06-19-2015, 05:56 PM
Reviews like this blow my mind. Jurassic World was mediocre at best. Why the general public feels the need to splash all types of praise on a movie that doesn't even depict REAL LOOKING DINOSAURS as paleontologists understand them to be now is a joke.

You do realize we now know many of these dinos had feathers right?


I enjoyed the movie A LOT, but I understand that not everybody will like it. That said, this is a lame reason not to like it!!!

At on point DB Wong's character (his name is Dr. Henry Wu I think) even address this, saying that his job wasn't to create scientifically true looking dinosaurs but to create animals that looked like what audiences expected! I though it was actually a nice way to acknowledge that science discovered a lot since the first JP movie, the feathers and all that.
Did you get up to refill your popcorn during that scene or what?!

Rabbit
06-19-2015, 11:59 PM
I enjoyed the movie A LOT, but I understand that not everybody will like it. That said, this is a lame reason not to like it!!!

At on point DB Wong's character (his name is Dr. Henry Wu I think) even address this, saying that his job wasn't to create scientifically true looking dinosaurs but to create animals that looked like what audiences expected! I though it was actually a nice way to acknowledge that science discovered a lot since the first JP movie, the feathers and all that.
Did you get up to refill your popcorn during that scene or what?!
i was replying to the post above stating that the dinosaurs looked real. That's all. And yeah i know they mentioned it but it's still lame to me. Here is a movie that could really inspire and spark curiousity in children (the original actually managed to do this) but instead it's just another crap hollywood popcorn flick clichè

cashpiles (closed)
06-21-2015, 10:31 AM
Do the makers of these films even care about what they're making? Or are they just shit talents? There were small glimmers of some form of heart in this movie... with the first helicopter scene... and some of the lead actress's moments.

I noticed this film had a very international/global perspective. I can guess that the makers of this film have experience travelling and living around the world.

There was a feeling that this film's production was rushed. The references to previous films just seemed pushed in to activate nostalgia circuits.

The Jimmy Fallon thing was just stupid (or the best thing in the movie). I mean, it was just so out of place in the movie. The acid thing made me laugh.

r_z
06-21-2015, 11:08 AM
As a product this movie is highly successfull, no doubt. As a film it fails on so many levels, like the stock characters or their mindless decicions throughout the entire course of this film. Just as the Indominus rex, it's obvious how this movie was constructed simply as a product to entertain the masses with too much stuff thrown into the equasion. The result, as in the movie, is a mess (albeit a successfull and entertaining one).

I've asked earlier how this one compares to Fury Road and now -as I've watched both- I've got to say: Jurassic World ain't got shit on Fury Road. The latter is character driven (no pun intended) and creative, while JW just hammers it home without a heart. The best thing it's done was to make me watch the original one more time.

Vertigo
06-21-2015, 11:53 AM
Eh, I wasn't filled with love or hate for either film, and while Fury Road does have more character background, let's not go nuts. The film is 90% asplosions. I agree it has much more of a heart to it, though.

One thing that I think really separates them is that although neither is big on smarts, Fury Road wears that on its sleave in a Dredd-like way and keeps things simple in order to compress things into a focused, intense experience. Whereas JW follows one of cinema's smarter and more research-packed summer blockbusters (and one with a lot of heart), so feels like it's being actively, provocatively dumb. If we hadn't had two increasingly drivel-filled, less-animal-more-monster sequels in between, I'd say it was letting the series down.

Rabbit
06-21-2015, 03:54 PM
Wonderful. The movie made 100mill in it's second weekend. For a movie that is mediocre at best this is only bad news. This reinforces Hollywood execs to keep putting out riskless, rehashes of old franchises to appeal to the masses.

Awful. Prepare for 2 or 3 more Jurassic World films. Wonder what they could possibly do with this franchise now. fuck. Dinosaurs with roller skates and machine guns? Maybe Prat can teach them to jump through hoops?

Substance242
06-21-2015, 04:12 PM
Funny you talk about Mad Max here. Just returned from the cinema, movie #1: Mad Max. Let us say that I just do not understand these Mad Max movies and they seem completely absurdly stupid to me, not in a good way. Did some character die? Pff, who cares. And I also hate dry hot desert environments. Btw, Star Wars are stupid too. :-)
Movie #2: Jurassic World. Just perfect summer blockbuster! (summer started today btw) A bit more brutal than I hoped for, and I wish the final fight was a bit longer. :-) References to Jurassic Park were OK.

fillow
06-22-2015, 04:38 AM
Watched the film yesterday. I give it 7/10.

Things that were awesome: dinosaurs, action, action scenes with dinosaurs, Owen, Claire (second half only), did I mention dinosaurs?
Things that sucked: humans, dialogues. Hoskins (aka the most cardboard stock character of the film). Claire (first half, pretty much all her scenes up to the point when she went all badass and knocked a pterodactyl off Owen).
Kids were suprisingly okay, save for a couple of unnecessary encyclopedia recitings.

Also, during the last dino battle for a second there I thought I'm watching new Transformers movie. Too much choreography for giant reptiles.

neorev
06-22-2015, 06:03 PM
Universal Pictures today announced that Jurassic World will cross $1 billion at the worldwide box office today after 13 days – faster than any film in history.

With Sunday’s reported actuals, Jurassic World has also secured the highest-grossing second week at the North American box office with $106.6 million. This brings the domestic cume to $402.8, which is also the fastest any film has reached $400 million at the domestic box office – after only 10 days. In addition, Jurassic World crossed $500 million internationally on Saturday, marking the quickest climb to that milestone – in only 11 days.

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/452775-jurassic-world-passes-1-billion-mark-in-record-13-days

cahernandez
06-23-2015, 10:53 AM
Wonderful. The movie made 100mill in it's second weekend. For a movie that is mediocre at best this is only bad news. This reinforces Hollywood execs to keep putting out riskless, rehashes of old franchises to appeal to the masses.

Awful. Prepare for 2 or 3 more Jurassic World films. Wonder what they could possibly do with this franchise now. fuck. Dinosaurs with roller skates and machine guns? Maybe Prat can teach them to jump through hoops?

I liked the movie for what it was, but I have to agree with you here...the fact that this movie made so much money in so little time means that the studios will keep pumping rehashed stuff. I like a good summer blockbuster movie as much as anyone else but it's refreshing to get a blockbuster that's not a sequel or part of a comic book empire or a reboot, something with a unique theme to it (see Inception, District 9, Looper, Social Netowork).

sentient02970
06-23-2015, 12:17 PM
Well it should be considered here that keeping fans of a franchise without a film for 14 years does pretty much set it up for a blockbuster independent of how good the movie actually is.

I'm betting if a new Godfather sequel came out this year it would be the highest grossing film of the year even if it was worse than III.

dlb
06-24-2015, 05:47 AM
So I have been watching the other three movies over the past two weeks and have seen JW two times more. My mind has changed quite a bit and I have to confess that I was overthrown with nostalgia, excitement and finally seeing a JP movie in the cinema again. It doesn't suck, but good god it's a lazy movie. Compared to the other flicks the CGI is quite mediocre in parts and yeah, having watched some articles online, JW suffers the same fate any other CGI-heavy movie tends to suffer. The physics are just off. While I deeply enjoyed the dino-fights in the dark, pretty much every scene out in the open did look funny.

And there is just something about the T-rex that looks off the me as well. Is it the easy going movements or the eyes? I still don't know. I loved its entrance in the movie but it's never as powerful as it was in JP or LW.

While I enjoyed Pratt the acting is forgettable, but that was to be expected. I would have loved the movie to highly expand on the myth behind the raptors a bit more as this was IMHO the only thing that made JP3 special. The Indominus could have used some more mystification as well. The part about it only having a positive relationship with the feeding hook gave me goose bumps but that didn't amount to anything in the end. I loved that it was an outcast, a freak and a misfit among the other dinosaurs, yet the chance to build this up way more was missed. At the end I wanted to feel sorry for it, suffering a shitty death, people realising that this hybrid is a huge mistake, but the payoff was boring as fuck. The whole movie actually was boring although so much happened. But without any gravity.

I like it though and think it's a nice entry to the franchise, but I fear that any sequels from this reboot will fail ultimately. Going down the military route is inevitable. At least I can't picture any other scenario despite a modern Flinstones and I don't think we really want to see that.

A thing that I really miss about JP? The awesome making-of material. I own up to ten books and documentaries about the first two films and I love looking at the Stan Winston Studio stuff on Youtube every now and then but there is close to nothing for JP3 and not anything good for JW yet. These things were a huge part of the magic for me.

fillow
06-24-2015, 06:01 AM
I thought CGI'd dinos in JW were vast improvement over those from JP3.

Vertigo
06-26-2015, 07:55 AM
Palaeontologist Mark Witton doodling the fine art of Velociraptor training:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIVeLBuWIAASDYw.jpg

Space Suicide
06-28-2015, 02:36 PM
Haha well...

I seen the film today and wow, I loved it. I honestly cannot state a single flaw, mistake or issue with it at all. Best movie since the first! Day one blu-ray buy for me!

Jurassic Park
Jurassic World
The Lost World







III

Hazekiah
11-18-2015, 08:22 PM
OMFG THE VERY BEST PART OF JURASSIC WORLD: The test-tube baby-momma has a quick talk about motherhood before a SEVERELY innuendo-laden chat with her bf and WHAT is the very first thing she says...?!?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG1742_1_zps7kzshruz.jpg

imail724
11-18-2015, 08:43 PM
OMFG THE VERY BEST PART OF JURASSIC WORLD: The test-tube baby-momma has a quick talk about motherhood before a SEVERELY innuendo-laden chat with her bf and WHAT is the very first thing she says...?!?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG1742_1_zps7kzshruz.jpg

Found the perfect place for you to post this (https://www.reddit.com/r/im14andthisisfunny/)

Hazekiah
11-27-2015, 03:59 PM
OMFG THE VERY BEST PART OF JURASSIC WORLD: The test-tube baby-momma has a quick talk about motherhood before a SEVERELY innuendo-laden chat with her bf and WHAT is the very first thing she says...?!?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/Hazekiah/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG1742_1_zps7kzshruz.jpg


Found the perfect place for you to post this (https://www.reddit.com/r/im14andthisisfunny/)

You're a year off the mark, btw. The film's actually rated PG-13.

Oh, and I don't recall anyone complaining about the OTHER blatant sexual themes and innuendo within the film, while we're at it.

marodi
11-22-2017, 06:04 PM
https://twitter.com/colintrevorrow/status/933364285446729733

dlb
12-04-2017, 10:55 AM
Well... Friday it is:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjUrQzTUnXI

marodi
12-04-2017, 12:42 PM
Running dinosaurs: check.
Flying dinosaurs: check.
Running people in appropriate running shoes: check (hopefully).
Cute baby raptor (who's going to eat you later, fool!): check.
Erupting volcano: ch... wait, that's new!

"This is going to be awesome": we'll see.

sonic_discord
12-04-2017, 01:45 PM
Running dinosaurs: check.
Flying dinosaurs: check.
Running people in appropriate running shoes: check (hopefully).
Cute baby raptor (who's going to eat you later, fool!): check.
Erupting volcano: ch... wait, that's new!

"This is going to be awesome": we'll see.

If you ask me, there should NOT be cute baby raptors purring like a fucking kitty cat in these movies. That's a facepalm moment for me.

dlb
12-05-2017, 04:09 AM
Same here. That's the thing about the original novel that put me off the most...

fillow
12-05-2017, 04:44 AM
The teaser was goddamn awful. Was it supposed to grab my attention? Well it did, in a bad way.

Vertigo
12-05-2017, 04:50 AM
[Baby raptors]

Same here. That's the thing about the original novel that put me off the most...

What? Why?

Shadaloo
12-05-2017, 09:29 AM
Why the fuck aren't these going right to home media to be instantly forgotten?

Lost World was only average, III was awful, JW was one of the worst movies of that year.

Please make it stop. Please.

Haysey_Draws
12-05-2017, 10:08 AM
I agree Lost World and III were awful, but i didn't mind World. I mean it was dumb, but i feel it was on the right side of dumb.

The teaser for II isn't doing much for me though :(

neorev
12-05-2017, 03:55 PM
Lost World could have been better if it stuck closer to the book and removed the silly crap like acrobatic raptor kicking and that whole T-Rex escaping into the city nonsense. Lost World should have had a darker tone like how the book was exposing the dark side of the park. But in the end, I still prefer Spielberg's Lost World over JP3 and JW.

Vertigo
12-05-2017, 04:33 PM
Lost World could have been better if it stuck closer to the book and removed the silly crap like acrobatic raptor kicking and that whole T-Rex escaping into the city nonsense. Lost World should have had a darker tone like how the book was exposing the dark side of the park. But in the end, I still prefer Spielberg's Lost World over JP3 and JW.

I think the main thing missing from the sequels was Crichton as a screenwriter. That serious, thoughtful, scientific tone in Jurassic Park has been increasingly lacking from the sequels.

The triumvirate with David Koepp and Steven Spielberg worked perfectly, with each cancelling out the other's weaknesses. Crichton's combination of strengths is rare, and arguably unique, particularly in Hollywood. Such a shame they didn't utilise that resource while they still could - reminds me of how the Alien series continually failed to utilise HR Giger, an absolutely unique talent who played a large role in making the first film a classic, and again it's now too late.

neorev
12-05-2017, 05:12 PM
I think the main thing missing from the sequels was Crichton as a screenwriter. That serious, thoughtful, scientific tone in Jurassic Park has been increasingly lacking from the sequels.

The triumvirate with David Koepp and Steven Spielberg worked perfectly, with each cancelling out the other's weaknesses. Crichton's combination of strengths is rare, and arguably unique, particularly in Hollywood. Such a shame they didn't utilise that resource while they still could - reminds me of how the Alien series continually failed to utilise HR Giger, an absolutely unique talent who played a large role in making the first film a classic, and again it's now too late.

Well The Lost World book itself had that scientific tone. Sadly they left it out in order to make some cowboy dino wrangling film.

neorev
12-05-2017, 05:14 PM
Some story details to Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom have come out...

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/907359-first-jurassic-world-fallen-kingdom-story-details-revealed#/slide/1

http://cdn3-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/gallery/jurassic-world-sequel/jwphoto_0.jpg

fillow
12-06-2017, 12:04 AM
Cue in Terminator 2 theme...

allegate
12-06-2017, 10:12 AM
Well The Lost World book itself had that scientific tone. Sadly they left it out in order to make some cowboy dino wrangling film.

Yeah. I remember when it was announced that he was writing a sequel based on the popularity of the movie.
After the publication of Jurassic Park (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurassic_Park_(novel)) in 1990, Crichton was pressured by fans to write a sequel. Following the success of Jurassic Park's film adaptation (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurassic_Park_(film)) in 1993, director Steven Spielberg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Spielberg) became interested in making a sequel film. Crichton had never written a sequel to any of his novels before, and was initially hesitant to do so. Crichton said a sequel was "a very difficult structural problem because it has to be the same but different; if it's really the same, then it's the same—and if it's really different, then it's not a sequel. So it's in some funny intermediate territory."[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_World_(Crichton_novel)#cite_note-MC-5) In March 1994, Crichton said there would probably be a sequel novel as well as a film adaptation, stating that he had an idea for the novel's story.[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_World_(Crichton_novel)#cite_note-USA-6)
Despite the character of Ian Malcolm dying in the first novel, Crichton chose to bring him back for the sequel: "Malcolm came back because I needed him. I could do without the others, but not him because he is the 'ironic commentator' on the action. He keeps telling us why it will go bad. And I had to have him back again." Bringing a dead character back was an idea Crichton got from Arthur Conan Doyle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Conan_Doyle)'s character Sherlock Holmes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes), who had been killed off but was later brought back. Malcolm was also considered a favorite character among readers of the first novel and people who watched its film adaptation.[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_World_(Crichton_novel)#cite_note-MC-5) An early draft of the novel included a lengthy tirade by Malcolm regarding God (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God) and evolution, but Crichton removed it "because it just didn't seem to fit."[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_World_(Crichton_novel)#cite_note-MC-5)
In March 1995, Crichton announced that he was nearly finished writing the novel, with a scheduled release for later that year. At the time, Crichton declined to specify the novel's title or plot.[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_World_(Crichton_novel)#cite_note-7) Crichton later stated that the novel's title is an homage (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homage_(arts)) to Doyle's 1912 novel of the same name (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_World_(Conan_Doyle_novel)), as well as a 1925 film adaptation of Doyle's novel, also titled The Lost World (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_World_(1925_film)).[8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_World_(Crichton_novel)#cite_note-8) Crichton's novel also shares some story similarities with Doyle's novel, as they both involve an expedition to an isolated Central American (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_America) location where dinosaurs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur) roam.[9] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_World_(Crichton_novel)#cite_note-9) However, in Crichton's novel, the dinosaurs were recreated by genetic engineering (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_engineering), rather than surviving from antiquity. The Lost World was the only sequel Crichton ever wrote.[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_World_(Crichton_novel)#cite_note-MC-5)
I read it and thought, "this is going to be an awesome movie". And then they didn't even use it as anything other than to say "look, we made another one!"
The Lost World: Jurassic Park is a 1997 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_in_film) science fiction film (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction_film) and sequel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sequel) to Jurassic Park (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurassic_Park_(film)), loosely based on Crichton's novel. The film was a commercial success, breaking many box-office records when released. It has a number of plot differences from the novel and incorporates scenes from the first novel that were not previously filmed.

dlb
12-06-2017, 10:52 AM
Wow, some of this looks very very good and some parts make me worried.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY0-lIEm4IU

Anyhow, yay for animatronics! Even if the movie sucks in the end, I will enjoy the hell out of any making of or behind the scenes material! :)

Self.Destructive.Pattern
12-06-2017, 08:07 PM
Soooo glad to see the inclusion of animatronics here. With the footage shown, looks like it's gonna be pretty good ride! The first film proved me wrong since I went in with no expectations and wound up enjoying it much more than I thought I would.

october_midnight
12-07-2017, 07:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn9mMeWcgoM

thevoid99
12-07-2017, 07:55 PM
Jeff goldblum!!!!! Motherfuckin' jeff goldblum!!!!!!!!!!

marodi
12-07-2017, 08:19 PM
Jeff goldblum!!!!! Motherfuckin' jeff goldblum!!!!!!!!!!

Forget the dinosaurs.

The Goldblum!!!!! TAKE ALL MY MONEY!!!

Haysey_Draws
12-08-2017, 04:19 AM
Anyone else think that trailer felt disjointed? And super spoilery? I mean it looks like dumb fun like the first world, but something about it just felt...off?

dlb
12-08-2017, 05:18 AM
it's too heavy on explosions, big set pieces and too fast, which reminds me too much of Peter Jackson's King Kong which was a fun ride with nice creature designs, but nothing I would want to see from a Jurassic Park movie. Give me realistic looking Dinosaurs with actual animal behaviour like in the first one. I like the connection Owen has to blue and it's great to see some old favorites return with the inclusion of new ones, but this looks very soulless just like the other Jurassic Park movies. Even the Lost World had more heart than JW and JP3.

I am still hyped and I really look forward to see this in a big cinema. And I will probably enjoy it just like Jurassic World, although I will be ultimately diasspointed as well as it's got not much to do with the original movie in the end.

allegate
12-08-2017, 09:53 AM
Anyone else think that trailer felt disjointed? And super spoilery? I mean it looks like dumb fun like the first world, but something about it just felt...off?
Yeah, something didn't sit right. I mean, what kind of plot is "save the dinosaurs from an exploding island" other than to have a 2.5 hour CGI fest? There's no element of it that feels relatable.

r_z
12-08-2017, 02:57 PM
It looks like a remake of JP: The Lost World featuring a volcano.

It basically looks like it will be the dumbest movie of 2018.

ImTheWiseJanitor
12-08-2017, 03:46 PM
This trailer feels like it's for a movie that's not a Jurassic World sequel.

The only saving grace is Goldblum, and I expect his screentime will probably be MINIMAL, at best...

I'll probably end up seeing it, but ehhh. I'm cautious.

Mr. Blaileen
12-08-2017, 05:25 PM
Watched the trailer. Meh. I'll be pleasantly surprised if the film isn't hot garbage.

The original Jurassic Park is one of my all-time favorites though.

Self.Destructive.Pattern
12-08-2017, 08:26 PM
The first one surprised me, so I am going in with an open mind again. But lets be real here... a lot of people are complaining about the plot and that makes me laugh. The entire plot for every JP movie is utterly ridiculous so why expect this one not to be? Dinosaurs are running free on remote islands in the modern era... what are you really expecting here?? I think it looks hella fun, and more and more Dino's is a plus in my book.

neorev
02-04-2018, 06:40 PM
I'm still not sure how I feel about this movie...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NooW_RbfdWI

bobbie solo
02-05-2018, 01:36 AM
I'm VERY sure how I feel about it.

fillow
02-05-2018, 01:43 AM
It's fucking awful. All I see is another ridiculous CGI fest... Didn't someone from the production team run their mouth about the number of animatronics built for this film?

dlb
02-05-2018, 02:29 AM
There are things I love and things I hate with this one. And yeah, CGI fest, PLUS it looks like The Lost World all over again. I will be seeing it but I doubt I will love it as it looks like a typical sequel.

neorev
02-05-2018, 08:43 AM
I dunno, I just don't feel Jurassic Park when watching these trailers. Feels more like the usual, mindless CGI summer blockerbuster fest. The soul is gone. Jurassic World at least had some soul in it... though most of it was built upon nostalgia of the original movie and seeing a fully functional park.

I rather see a movie that goes back and follows Site B and it's downfall. I guess technically it would be set before, during, after Jurassic Park and before The Lost World. I wanted to see a movie about John Hammond's, Dr. Wu's, and INGEN's struggle to make the park and create dinosaurs and all the dark genetic shit that it took before we got the pretty island resort. The Lost World book touches upon this. To follow a younger John Hammond trying to achieve his dream while his partner secretly wants the spotlight. Leading to the eventual downfall of Site B, which would take place around the same time of the events of Jurassic Park's incident and the hurricane that hit and wrecked havoc to both islands. What happened to the folks working on Site B before they had to abandon it all? Take unused moments from the books and incorporate it into the story. There's plenty of left out material. Hell, you could even have it that has Nedry was sabotaging the park, Dodgson and his crew from the 2nd book head to Site B under the cover of chaos to steal the dinosaur eggs as a back up plan if Nedry failed and introduce new characters and, of course, the hero/dinosaur loving member of the Site B team out to stop Dodgson from robbing the place.

But that's the lame fanboy of the original books in me.

ImTheWiseJanitor
02-05-2018, 08:51 AM
I dunno, I just don't feel Jurassic Park when watching these trailers. Feels more like the usual, mindless CGI summer blockerbuster fest. The soul is gone. Jurassic World at least had some soul in it... though most of it was built upon nostalgia of the original movie and seeing a fully functional park.

I rather see a movie that goes back and follows Site B and it's downfall. I guess technically it would be set before, during, after Jurassic Park and before The Lost World. I wanted to see a movie about John Hammond's, Dr. Wu's, and INGEN's struggle to make the park and create dinosaurs and all the dark genetic shit that it took before we got the pretty island resort. The Lost World book touches upon this. To follow a younger John Hammond trying to achieve his dream while his partner secretly wants the spotlight. Leading to the eventual downfall of Site B, which would take place around the same time of the events of Jurassic Park's incident and the hurricane that hit and wrecked havoc to both islands. What happened to the folks working on Site B before they had to abandon it all?

But Chris Pratt has a pet dinosaur!!! Isn't that way more interesting of story to explore???

I'm in the same boat. This looks ridiculous. "Okay. You guys. What if they have to fight ANOTHER genetically modified dinosaur? And what if we give it creepy long villain hands this time?? Where'd everybody go?"

fillow
02-05-2018, 09:44 AM
I rather see a movie that goes back and follows Site B and it's downfall. I guess technically it would be set before, during, after Jurassic Park and before The Lost World. I wanted to see a movie about John Hammond's, Dr. Wu's, and INGEN's struggle to make the park and create dinosaurs and all the dark genetic shit that it took before we got the pretty island resort. The Lost World book touches upon this. To follow a younger John Hammond trying to achieve his dream while his partner secretly wants the spotlight. Leading to the eventual downfall of Site B, which would take place around the same time of the events of Jurassic Park's incident and the hurricane that hit and wrecked havoc to both islands. What happened to the folks working on Site B before they had to abandon it all? Take unused moments from the books and incorporate it into the story. There's plenty of left out material. Hell, you could even have it that has Nedry was sabotaging the park, Dodgson and his crew from the 2nd book head to Site B under the cover of chaos to steal the dinosaur eggs as a back up plan if Nedry failed and introduce new characters and, of course, the hero/dinosaur loving member of the Site B team out to stop Dodgson from robbing the place.

But that's the lame fanboy of the original books in me.

Congratulations, you've just pitched Jurassic Park: Amber and Blood, coming to the theaters July 2021, featuring Chris Hemsworth as young Hammond.

neorev
02-05-2018, 11:31 AM
fillow
Jurassic Park: Amber And Blood... I'll take that title over Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom :P

I'd probably pick Colin Firth or Martin Freeman as John Hammond to be honest. Younger than JP1 Hammond, but not too much. Steven Yeun as Dr. Wu.

Haysey_Draws
02-06-2018, 04:32 AM
...OK i might be in a minority here...but i really liked this new trailer over the original one. My expectations are low (JW wasn't a great film but it was fun) but i'm slightly more excited for this now.

ImTheWiseJanitor
02-06-2018, 04:55 AM
@fillow (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=348)
Jurassic Park: Amber And Blood... I'll take that title over Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom :P

I'd probably pick Colin Firth or Martin Freeman as John Hammond to be honest. Younger than JP1 Hammond, but not too much. Steven Yeun as Dr. Wu.

At a glance I thought you'd said MORGAN Freeman as John Hammond. Know what? I'd still 100% see that if they just committed to it.

neorev
02-06-2018, 09:22 AM
ImTheWiseJanitor hahahaha! Well, we all know Mr. Morgan Freeman can nail any role. Just imagine his sweet, sensual voice saying "Welcome to Jurassic Park." :)

Perhaps he can have another role in this film. Be one of INGEN's board members being like "What the hell are you doing, John? This idea is out of control."

Open up with young John Hammond as a kid watching the original black and white Lost World movie adaptation in awe. You can see his over excitement about dinosaurs much to his parents' annoyance. Asking a million different questions and spouting a million different facts by the minute. The big build up to him turning to his parents who are half paying attention and him stating with confidence "One day, I am going to bring dinosaurs back to the world!" Zoom up to his eyes, cut to older eyes as you can see some years have past, camera pulls out and reveals John Hammond doing his little flee circus crap to a small crowd of people. A little girl squealing in delight and tugging at her mother "Mommy, can you see the flees? I can see the flees!" This is not the life John planned.

In the original book, when John was first experimenting with genetics and cloning, didn't he have like a tiny elephant he brought around to investors? This is when he first tried to make like consumer biologicals, but the elephant had temper problems or something. I think Gennaro even was in thepicture at this point. But he got enough money invested into INGEN to do what he wanted and bought a ton of amber and found Dr. Wu to help him bring his vision.

allegate
03-02-2018, 11:59 AM
https://twitter.com/DinoProtectGrp/status/969626486972989440

ugh.

Vertigo
03-02-2018, 02:54 PM
Not trying to be provocative, but why the ugh?