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cdm
03-13-2020, 11:47 AM
I think governors Inslee & Newcome(?) of WA & CA I have done very well given the circumstances. Inslee is a very bright guy with good ideas. When he was running for president he had a strong message on climate change. Although I wouldn't want him to leave WA state, I had a pipe dream that he would be a good vice president candidate for Sanders or Warren. Sadly, the fix is in though.

Yeah, I agree and my fault for sloppy wordage. I meant members of Congress and their roles in committee(s). Inslee is the real deal.

How are you doing, by the way?

chuckrh
03-13-2020, 12:00 PM
Yeah, I agree and my fault for sloppy wordage. I meant members of Congress and their roles in committee(s). Inslee is the real deal.

How are you doing, by the way?

Not too well unfortunately. I have appointment with my rheumatologist on Tuesday. I seem to feel a little more sick every day & the temp goes up a tiny bit but not a fever quite. I'm going to pitch a fit & basically demand a test. I want to know. I am in self quarantine anyway but if I am getting sick (not from the chemo) I am hoping to start some sort of treatment before it gets out of hand. I've had pneumonia several times in the past, in fact the last time I saw NIN I came down with it in Vegas. Not the last tour, the one before. I wasn't feeling super well but saw NIN the first night. Rest of the trip, was mostly in the hotel room. At least I saw a great NIN show! Trying to hang in best I can. Thank you for asking.

allegate
03-13-2020, 12:27 PM
https://twitter.com/PFTompkins/status/1238513298498146305

who in the world is that, and why isn't she starring in a Buffy episode.

allegate
03-13-2020, 12:31 PM
sigh...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/522394479429689344

cdm
03-13-2020, 12:31 PM
Trying to hang in best I can.

Wishing the best for you.

theimage13
03-13-2020, 12:51 PM
sigh...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/522394479429689344

https://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/thumb_small_article/public/article_images/obamabarack_102414getty.jpg?itok=OkMYcrRf

President Obama hugs Nina Pham, a nurse who contracted Ebola while treating another patient who had it.

Your move, Don.

allegate
03-13-2020, 01:14 PM
https://twitter.com/PFTompkins/status/1238513298498146305

who in the world is that, and why isn't she starring in a Buffy episode.
Ah. and ugh.

https://twitter.com/Mrsmaxdewinter/status/1237968045877927938

chuckrh
03-13-2020, 01:51 PM
Wishing the best for you.

thank you

ImTheWiseJanitor
03-13-2020, 02:12 PM
AMC theaters are reducing maximum audience sizes to 50% at all screenings from now until the end of April.

https://www.indiewire.com/2020/03/amc-theatres-limit-capacity-coronavirus-1202217548/

Magnetic
03-13-2020, 02:31 PM
You couldn't pay me to go into a theater right now.

ManBurning
03-13-2020, 02:59 PM
Canadian research team isolates the virus itself, will lead to better testing, treatments, and a vaccine. (https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2020/03/12/sunnybrook-researchers-isolate-covid-19-coronavirus.html)

You take away our hockey and watch what fucking happens.

I read a different article:

https://globalnews.ca/news/6671901/coronavirus-canadian-company-covid-19-vaccine-candidate/

and my concern with this is, it says it may not be ready to the public until Nov 2020 at the earliest, looking more realistically looking like November 2021.

Does this mean they expect the outbreak to last the next 2 years??
If so... get ready for a very long and boring 2 years of no concerts, sporting events, traveling, movies, or... anything!

I hope this shit doesn't last for 2 years. Could you imagine.

Krazy
03-13-2020, 03:00 PM
They a made a two way (yes/no) flow chart to identify if you may have the virus??? LOL

richardp
03-13-2020, 03:02 PM
They a made a two way (yes/no) flow chart to identify if you may have the virus??? LOL

Did you see how fuckin excited that lady was about that shit too? It was like it was her entire life's work right there on that cardboard.

Krazy
03-13-2020, 03:09 PM
Did you see how fuckin excited that lady was about that shit too? It was like it was her entire life's work right there on that cardboard.

Felt like I was watching a damn commercial.

richardp
03-13-2020, 03:14 PM
That whole press conference felt like they were all up there slapping backs and asses for beating this fucking thing already.

theimage13
03-13-2020, 03:16 PM
AMC theaters are reducing maximum audience sizes to 50% at all screenings from now until the end of April.

https://www.indiewire.com/2020/03/amc-theatres-limit-capacity-coronavirus-1202217548/

Reduce it to 10% and my introverted ass might actually go to the movies.

october_midnight
03-13-2020, 03:19 PM
I read a different article:

https://globalnews.ca/news/6671901/coronavirus-canadian-company-covid-19-vaccine-candidate/

and my concern with this is, it says it may not be ready to the public until Nov 2020 at the earliest, looking more realistically looking like November 2021.

Does this mean they expect the outbreak to last the next 2 years??
If so... get ready for a very long and boring 2 years of no concerts, sporting events, traveling, movies, or... anything!

I hope this shit doesn't last for 2 years. Could you imagine.

Yep, that's been the timeframe given for a while now. That's just for a vaccine though, social distancing and other preventative measures will make it eventually plateau and decline on its own...certain areas like China (yep) and South Korea are already seeing the number of new cases drop a lot.

As for things being 'boring' for a few years. Oh well.

Krazy
03-13-2020, 03:27 PM
Reduce it to 10% and my introverted ass might actually go to the movies.

You can have the whole place to yourself if Gigli gets a re-release!

allegate
03-13-2020, 03:34 PM
Felt like I was watching a damn commercial.
https://twitter.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/1238552610199617536

paul_is_dead
03-13-2020, 03:42 PM
FFS the British reaction to this has been so bollocks. A rugby game my husband is going to tomorrow has been cancelled today when most of the Scots will already have started their journey to Cardiff! Talk about last minute

Yep the game should've been cancelled days ago.

Cash is all the WRU cares about.

chuckrh
03-13-2020, 03:46 PM
That whole press conference felt like they were all up there slapping backs and asses for beating this fucking thing already.


Sounds like the job i retired from in august. a certain mega corporation in aerospace & military that has been in the news a lot lately. for once in my life good timing in getting out when i did.

ImTheWiseJanitor
03-13-2020, 03:47 PM
You couldn't pay me to go into a theater right now.

I went to see 1917 last night, as the theater was mostly empty and it’s the only film out currently that I might regret not seeing in a theater. I pick a seat in an empty row far from any other people, walk into the theater, go up to my row...and some dude is sitting directly in my seat. He asked if I wanted it. Nah homie, we’re good. I’m just gonna go waaay over here...

allegate
03-13-2020, 03:50 PM
https://twitter.com/zachheltzel/status/1238558541792735232

allegro
03-13-2020, 03:50 PM
How did the Trump Administration bungle this?

Let’s count the ways:

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/03/here-are-17-ways-the-trump-administration-bungled-its-coronavirus-response/

allegate
03-13-2020, 04:03 PM
so how many of you saw tweets similar to this for your kids?

https://twitter.com/VancouverSD/status/1238566926613278720

M1ke
03-13-2020, 04:25 PM
so how many of you saw tweets similar to this for your kids?

https://twitter.com/VancouverSD/status/1238566926613278720

News came out yesterday afternoon for Ontario. Next week is March break, the 2 weeks after that schools are closed as a precaution.

The city that I work in closed all public facilities and cancelled all March Break events. Same with the community I live in. I'm guessing the next one over will soon too.

ImTheWiseJanitor
03-13-2020, 04:51 PM
My work has informed me that we’re taking extra steps when going into people’s homes for repairs, but also closing down our resident facilities (gym, study labs) until further notice, likely meaning the rest of the month. Yay for working in international student housing!

Aladdinsanity
03-13-2020, 05:36 PM
Might be a dumb thing to ask (or already asked), but is it ill-advised to partake in recreational weed and alcohol at this time? Definitely not going out, but I usually do this every other weekend in solitude listening to records and watching old movies.

allegate
03-13-2020, 05:38 PM
https://twitter.com/KevBarNYC/status/1238550230909534210

tricil
03-13-2020, 05:40 PM
Might be a dumb thing to ask (or already asked), but is it ill-advised to partake in recreational weed and alcohol at this time? Definitely not going out, but I usually do this every other weekend in solitude listening to records and watching old movies.

Lungs are hit with COVID-19 the hardest. Smoking anything isn’t encouraged.

allegate
03-13-2020, 05:50 PM
It's OK everyone, it's just Trump celebrating the holiday properly:


National Blame Someone Else Day is always celebrated on the first Friday the 13th of the year.
https://nationaldaycalendar.com/national-blame-someone-else-day-first-friday-13/

zero
03-13-2020, 05:56 PM
Went grocery shopping today. What an experience! Had to visit two stores to get the few items I needed. First store apparently had a run on potatoes, shelves picked clean. Second store had plenty of potatoes, but no onions! What the heck? One store had zero chicken, but plenty of pork and beef. Other had no beef, limited pork, but plenty of chicken? And both stores had fully stocked TP shelves, with no customers in the paper aisle.

The wait time at checkout approached an hour. In these stores it's usually 3 minutes or less, even on the day before Thanksgiving. I am convinced that some type of mass hysteria has taken hold.

ImTheWiseJanitor
03-13-2020, 08:04 PM
Might be a dumb thing to ask (or already asked), but is it ill-advised to partake in recreational weed and alcohol at this time? Definitely not going out, but I usually do this every other weekend in solitude listening to records and watching old movies.

My herb smoking hasn’t changed, and I feel fine (minus a minor back injury). However, what I’ve been smoking has all been from one source, bought a month ago, and hasn’t been shared or exposed to anyone but myself, so while there’s always a chance something could happen...I think I’m okay there, for now. I was considering making a trip to Colorado in a couple of weeks, but I don’t I’m gonna gonna happen now.

Obviously, if my health changes in any way I’m gonna have to cut the smoking for a bit, but so far living a fairly clean and isolated lifestyle is working surprisingly in my favor for the time being. Not sure about whether I’m gonna go to the dog park or anything either, but that’s gonna depend on how things unfoil over the next few days. So far, I’m...I’ll say “nervously hopeful.”

A friend’s boyfriend was diagnosed with coronavirus NL63 today, then was sent home with some meds and told to stay off work for a week and they’d be fine, but man...scary situation all the same.

sick among the pure
03-13-2020, 10:57 PM
My herb smoking hasn’t changed, and I feel fine (minus a minor back injury). However, what I’ve been smoking has all been from one source, bought a month ago, and hasn’t been shared or exposed to anyone but myself, so while there’s always a chance something could happen...I think I’m okay there, for now. I was considering making a trip to Colorado in a couple of weeks, but I don’t I’m gonna gonna happen now.

Mine's all bought from before it reached CO but tbh I'd go out and get more if I ran out, trimmers wear gloves and since the industry is still fairly new things are kept under closer scrutiny than a lot of shit you would go buy in any retail/grocery store. Since I use a dry herb vape, I'm much less worried about my respiratory health and having an increased risk if I caught it, than if I smoked or vaped concentrates.

thelastdisciple
03-13-2020, 11:45 PM
As usual Facebook's gonna Facebook, one of my relatives posted this. Embarrassing.

https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89652960_10162970501055705_249632630343991296_n.jp g?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=bMep_SrJ0O8AX_BtlYW&_nc_ht=scontent-yyz1-1.xx&oh=4105ebf97cae2ec5a2957f62f1bc877f&oe=5E919844

allegate
03-14-2020, 12:46 AM
But...it's the Republicans who 'did' this sooooo...what are they actually concerned about?

ManBurning
03-14-2020, 03:05 AM
As usual Facebook's gonna Facebook, one of my relatives posted this. Embarrassing.

https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89652960_10162970501055705_249632630343991296_n.jp g?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=110474&_nc_ohc=bMep_SrJ0O8AX_BtlYW&_nc_ht=scontent-yyz1-1.xx&oh=4105ebf97cae2ec5a2957f62f1bc877f&oe=5E919844

Unfortunately, I think we all have the misfortune of knowing someone like this. I have a friend who thinks this way. He goes on about how they're taking away our rights and freedom with all these quarantines, check points, boarder closings and event shutdowns. You can't rationalize or get through to people like this either.

versusreality
03-14-2020, 04:28 AM
going to hit the supermarket for the first time this morning since last weekend. this is going to be interesting. I'm somewhat low on food right now.

sweeterthan
03-14-2020, 07:56 AM
Our refrigerator died this week and I lost all my food. I had to throw everything away. It was a bitter task for sure. The fridge is under warranty but they’re not coming til Tuesday to fix it. So I’m grocery shopping daily and feeding 4 people from a mini fridge. I’m super privileged in that I can go to the store daily and buy a mini fridge but I’m worried that the grocery stores won’t be able to restock items I buy by the time I can stock up. There’s been some fear mongering on twitter about grocery stores not being open soon. This has been terrible on my anxiety.

I’m taking my kids to a party today but I have no idea if I should. The hosts have said there will be hand sanitizer stations so We are going but omg I have mixed emotions about it.

Mantra
03-14-2020, 08:50 AM
Last night I drove by a gas station that had a big digital sign out front flashing "WE HAVE TOILET PAPER!!!"

theimage13
03-14-2020, 09:45 AM
But...it's the Republicans who 'did' this sooooo...what are they actually concerned about?

Trump isn't a Republican. Trump is Jesus. Goverment bad, want to control us. Only Jesus can save us from goverment!

At lest, I'm pretty sure that's how their minds work.

chuckrh
03-14-2020, 10:00 AM
Our refrigerator died this week and I lost all my food. I had to throw everything away. It was a bitter task for sure. The fridge is under warranty but they’re not coming til Tuesday to fix it. So I’m grocery shopping daily and feeding 4 people from a mini fridge. I’m super privileged in that I can go to the store daily and buy a mini fridge but I’m worried that the grocery stores won’t be able to restock items I buy by the time I can stock up. There’s been some fear mongering on twitter about grocery stores not being open soon. This has been terrible on my anxiety.

I’m taking my kids to a party today but I have no idea if I should. The hosts have said there will be hand sanitizer stations so We are going but omg I have mixed emotions about it.

I would think about sending birthday wishes & skipping the party if your area has significant impact. I love kids but they are cute little germ carriers. They may not be sick but carrying the virus. So far, kids themselves have turned out ok if they get the virus but this thing is mutating. Let's make sure they can attend future parties!

sweeterthan
03-14-2020, 10:35 AM
I would think about sending birthday wishes & skipping the party if your area has significant impact. I love kids but they are cute little germ carriers. They may not be sick but carrying the virus. So far, kids themselves have turned out ok if they get the virus but this thing is mutating. Let's make sure they can attend future parties!

That’s the thing tho. We don’t even know how our area is impacted coz no one is getting tested. The event space they’re using is closed to the public during the party. The kids were around each other yesterday at school.

Consulting my nurse friend by text now.

Edit: she said don’t go. So I cancelled. I feel terrible about it.

chuckrh
03-14-2020, 10:56 AM
That’s the thing tho. We don’t even know how our area is impacted coz no one is getting tested. The event space they’re using is closed to the public during the party. The kids were around each other yesterday at school.

Consulting my nurse friend by text now.

Edit: she said don’t go. So I cancelled. I feel terrible about it.

I'm sorry but I think for the best. Maybe get your kids a treat, something they like? Have your own little party. Kids are mighty resilient with stuff like this.

allegro
03-14-2020, 10:57 AM
Our refrigerator died this week and I lost all my food. I had to throw everything away. It was a bitter task for sure. The fridge is under warranty but they’re not coming til Tuesday to fix it.
TUESDAY?!?!? Oh my GOD?! Wtf?!

I don’t know how you can live. We have another full-size fridge in the basement as backup and there’s only two of us. You have KIDS. I’ll pray for you.

Question: Is your FREEZER working?

I think maybe more Moms might be canceling from that party than you know. Maybe that Birthday Kid Mom will get a refund.

We went out to dinner at a local bar burger place last night that’s popular on the North Shore (especially with old people for some reason) and it was PACKED, but everyone was six feet away from each other (except at the bar). I was surprised that so many older people want to go out to dinner. Stir-crazy, maybe wanting to stick to routine? The waiters are pretty afraid of being out of work, soon, though. I hope not.

Grocery stores, I think the absolute worst that could happen would be you’d have to order your groceries for curbside pickup.



Edit: All Apple stores now are officially (temporarily) closed, except in China.

Jinsai
03-14-2020, 11:25 AM
You couldn't pay me to go into a theater right now. yeah, there’s no way theaters are exceeding 50 percent capacity anyway now, and the major releases are being delayed

allegro
03-14-2020, 11:29 AM
yeah, there’s no way theaters are exceeding 50 percent capacity anyway now, and the major releases are being delayed

I got emails from AMC that they’re limiting capacity to 50%. And that they’re doing extra cleaning and stuff.

cdm
03-14-2020, 12:15 PM
Edit: she said don’t go. So I cancelled. I feel terrible about it.

Do not feel terrible about it. IMO, it's irresponsible to carry on with a party right now. You 100% did the right thing.

Jinsai
03-14-2020, 12:39 PM
I got emails from AMC that they’re limiting capacity to 50%. And that they’re doing extra cleaning and stuff.

Yeah I know, but it seems like a gesture really. I don't think anyone's going to the movies, and the big new releases are being delayed accordingly anyway.

sweeterthan
03-14-2020, 12:40 PM
Thanks everyone.

My nurse friend also think I should avoid the yoga studio which fucking sucks.


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richardp
03-14-2020, 01:12 PM
https://www.wired.com/story/coronavirus-donald-trump-google-website/?fbclid=IwAR2zL3lUHIEBVXlCdciyTmP2fz5iImDnlvBsEvKP liRp7xfo4wKzvKmerKU

That fucking bullshit "DO YOU HAVE COVID YES/NO" website they announced yesterday isn't even real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

allegro
03-14-2020, 01:37 PM
Thanks everyone.

My nurse friend also think I should avoid the yoga studio which fucking sucks.

I just wonder if overdoing this to THAT point will put these businesses and their employees under. I hope the Government will start sending out checks to unemployed people, SOON.

We’re ordering out or using local places because these employees need to pay their rent, many of them are immigrants, we’re really worried about them.

sweeterthan
03-14-2020, 01:42 PM
I just wonder if overdoing this to THAT point will put these businesses and there employees under.

We’re ordering out or using local places because these employees need to pay their rent, many of them are immigrants, we’re really worried about them.

I’m still paying for my membership so hopefully that helps. It’s just so damn sweaty in there. They pump humidity into the room which seems like a good way for germs to get around. The other day there was this obnoxious sweaty guy flinging sweat everywhere. So gross. Keep it to yourself. He was special for sure.


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Demogorgon
03-14-2020, 01:46 PM
I just wonder if overdoing this to THAT point will put these businesses and their employees under. I hope the Government will start sending out checks to unemployed people, SOON.

We’re ordering out or using local places because these employees need to pay their rent, many of them are immigrants, we’re really worried about them.


Since people around here (here being my local town, not this website) decided to be racist pricks, we're making a point to go to our local non-chain Chinese restaurant next week. I have a feeling they've been hit hard, and they don't deserve it.

allegro
03-14-2020, 01:47 PM
I’m still paying for my membership so hopefully that helps. It’s just so damn sweaty in there. They pump humidity into the room which seems like a good way for germs to get around. The other day there was this obnoxious sweaty guy flinging sweat everywhere. So gross. Keep it to yourself. He was special for sure.

Yeah I’ve wondered about L.A. Fitness and Lifetime Fitness around here. They’re big germ fests, for sure.

Membership, they should be okay. I thought you were talking small hourly yoga studio thing.

allegro
03-14-2020, 01:50 PM
Since people around here (here being my local town, not this website) decided to be racist pricks, we're making a point to go to our local non-chain Chinese restaurant next week. I have a feeling they've been hit hard, and they don't deserve it.
Our town isn’t that way, thankfully. We have a few big Chinese restaurants that have been busy throughout this whole thing and we continue to dine-in at one.

Edit: Word is that the House Bill negotiated by Pelosi and Mnuchin puts a moratorium on mortgage foreclosures and evictions and prevents all utilities from stopping services. Yesterday, President Trump froze interest on all Federal student loans, FWIW, for the foreseeable future. We need to see if the House Bill also sends out checks. Trump says that McConnell just needs to have the Senate approve it, it appears that McConnell will be slapped into submission.

This would be a nice time to have Andrew Yang’s UBI.

Demogorgon
03-14-2020, 01:52 PM
Somebody flat out freaked at my partner's work when she told them we were going to eat there. "But the virus could be in the food, it's Chinese food!" I don't even understand how out of touch someone has to be, to be so ignorant as to believe that.

allegro
03-14-2020, 02:04 PM
Somebody flat out freaked at my partner's work when she told them we were going to eat there. "But the virus could be in the food, it's Chinese food!" I don't even understand how out of touch someone has to be, to be so ignorant as to believe that.
Wtf. Seriously, wtf. Seriously stupid.

allegate
03-14-2020, 02:40 PM
Thanks everyone.

My nurse friend also think I should avoid the yoga studio which fucking sucks.


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the number of small businesses who were already barely holding on aren't going to weather this very well at all.

we have a carnavale tea reservation for next Saturday at a local tea place and I called this morning to see if it was still going on. She sounded surprised that I was asking, but I don't know if it was from "we're booked full, are you calling about a reservation?" or if it was "oh God, a cancellation?".

Jinsai
03-14-2020, 03:25 PM
Wtf. Seriously, wtf. Seriously stupid.

And still SLIGHTLY more informed than the people who thought you'd get it from Corona beer.

Demogorgon
03-14-2020, 03:34 PM
And still SLIGHTLY more informed than the people who thought you'd get it from Corona beer.

I don't know about all that, this person also seems to think cheap boxed wine is the pinnacle of alcohol consumption, so i'd say it's about even.

allegro
03-14-2020, 05:06 PM
And still SLIGHTLY more informed than the people who thought you'd get it from Corona beer.

I tell them: Come on, do we get Mexican food from Mexico? Italian food from Italy? You really think Chinese food comes from CHINA? It’s made in a kitchen in the back of the restaurant by people who live near you.

There are tariffs on products from China. How expensive do you imagine that Kung Pao Beef would be if it came here from China?

The Jewel (Safeway) in the Glen (North Shore, Glenview) is TOTALLY OUT OF ALL MEAT. This includes no deli department and the hot deli bar is cleaned out. And all toilet paper and paper towels are gone, as are onions. But they had lots of soup, and some bread, but they had some varieties of frozen pizzas left.

The Jewel by my Mom in Arlington Heights was TOTALLY out of all bread, most soup was gone, dry pasta nearly cleaned out, and all the frozen pizzas are gone.

We got Starbucks to go at the Jewel at the Glen and chatted with the nice manager there who we always see; she said all Starbucks stores are closed, only drive-throughs are open. No re-useable cups.

She said that people are lined up outside to get onto the store at 6 am, even though they don’t get deliveries until Tuesdays.

Jinsai
03-14-2020, 05:59 PM
no, don't get me wrong allegro, I was just making a joke. These people are stupid on a level that's weaponizable

allegro
03-14-2020, 06:28 PM
no, don't get me wrong allegro, I was just making a joke. These people are stupid on a level that's weaponizable

I got ya. Agreed.

eachpassingphase
03-14-2020, 07:40 PM
So I work for a church and we decided to cancel all events at the church for the rest of the month. A few of the lay leaders in our congregation work in medicine and have warned us that our local hospitals are already overloaded at the moment due to some unrelated stuff in the area, so it's gonna be an absolute nightmare when COVID hits our city. Frankly, the doctors and nurses I'm friends with are pretty sure it's already here, they just have no way to test for it and nobody has gotten badly sick yet. We are right between St. Louis and KC who already have confirmed cases. It seemed like the obvious thing to do was cancel out of a concern for our neighbors to hopefully not further spread germs.

I just got done doing taking this whole thing public to the church maybe, I dunno, thirty minutes ago? I'm ALREADY seeing snarky-ass posts from some of the more fundamentalist churches in our area who seem to be sort of passively-aggressively subtweeting us and another church who canceled like "some of the OTHER churches in our town listen to EARTHLY wisdom and aren't meeting to praise to LORD tomorrow! NOT US! WE LOVE JESUS AND WILL BE IN HIS CHURCH TOMORROW!"

Wow. Okay dudes. Feel free to tattle on us in person to king Jesus, because I have a feeling some of the 80-year-olds in your congregation are gonna meet him soon, dumb asses. Is there a Christlike way to call somebody a dumb ass? Probably not. Oh well.

Demogorgon
03-14-2020, 07:45 PM
I'm not religious by any means but, i always like to remind people that according to biblical teaching, Christ went on a rampage flipping tables and whipping people at least once during his adult life so, i think calling someone a dumbass is pretty much in the clear.

eachpassingphase
03-14-2020, 07:51 PM
I'm not religious by any means but, i always like to remind people that according to biblical teaching, Christ went on a rampage flipping tables and whipping people at least once during his adult life so, i think calling someone a dumbass is pretty much in the clear.

Not gonna lie, the thought crossed my mind. I also considered responding from our official church social media account with nothing but this, but I feel like that might get me fired.https://i.imgflip.com/1pq988.jpg

zero
03-14-2020, 07:55 PM
Is there a Christlike way to call somebody a dumb ass? Probably not. Oh well.

Yes, there is. Just pray for them. Seriously. Our church has not yet canceled services, but I have a feeling that tomorrow might be the last for awhile. So I am attempting to help them set up live stream services, which is not really that difficult to do. The hard part is church politics!

Our church is also beginning to start up our free lunch program for kids, which we run in the summer for kids who get free or reduced priced lunches at school during the school year. Since schools are closed now, the kids need food, and we are striving to fill the need.

chuckrh
03-14-2020, 07:56 PM
I'm not religious by any means but, i always like to remind people that according to biblical teaching, Christ went on a rampage flipping tables and whipping people at least once during his adult life so, i think calling someone a dumbass is pretty much in the clear.

maybe that's what this is. a judgement on consumerism & greed. saw a documentary on jeff bezos where he talked passionately about consumerism. of course you know who jeff would like to have as high priest of that cult.

botley
03-14-2020, 08:04 PM
Heard on Twitter that some fifth-grader started calling the virus "Boomer remover" and now people are losing their minds. HAAAAAH.

eachpassingphase
03-14-2020, 08:45 PM
Our church is also beginning to start up our free lunch program for kids, which we run in the summer for kids who get free or reduced priced lunches at school during the school year. Since schools are closed now, the kids need food, and we are striving to fill the need.

Dude, that's awesome! I'm gonna put a bug in my Pastor's ears and see if we can't figure out a way to do something like this, our congregation is mostly pretty young and healthy so there's got to be a way we can help if it comes to that. Seems like it might be up my local anarchist group's alley too. I need to make some calls.

K-12 hasn't been canceled yet, but all the colleges here have been so we are expecting it at this point.

allegro
03-14-2020, 09:43 PM
Heard on Twitter that some fifth-grader started calling the virus "Boomer remover" and now people are losing their minds. HAAAAAH.

LOL LOL.

Although, technically, it's taking out the Silent Generation as its primary victims (https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-older-people-with-chronic-conditions-need-to-know-about-covid-19#Older-or-with-underlying-conditions-at-greatest-risk). (The oldest Boomer is 75; the youngest is 56).

Interesting stats on age, underlying medical condition, etc.: https://www.mystateline.com/news/everything-we-know-about-the-41-coronavirus-deaths-in-the-u-s/

Watched Anthony Fauci on TV a few times, he said all of this is pretty consistent with the flu, and even with cancer; the older you get, the more apt you are to die because your immune system starts to suck (especially if you have underlying conditions like obesity, diabetes, heart conditions, lung conditions, etc.).

https://twitter.com/markwby/status/1238867143363567616?s=20

NotoriousTIMP
03-14-2020, 09:51 PM
Trump isn't a Republican. Trump is Jesus. Goverment bad, want to control us. Only Jesus can save us from goverment!

At lest, I'm pretty sure that's how their minds work.

This picture still keeps me up at night...

https://i.imgur.com/e5hNdip.jpg

elevenism
03-14-2020, 10:39 PM
So, for once, I'm HAPPY to be living in one of the most remote regions in the country.

There is no shortage of anything in this area, yet (this area being where texas, ok, and nm converge.)

ManBurning
03-15-2020, 03:37 AM
Spain has now locked it's country down.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/spain-announces-national-lockdown-of-46-million-citizens-1.4853141?fbclid=IwAR2IWEne3K0UHnutfsKXzGNxjAVZI-id3KeAxuj8V6c3gmJx2-0PoIm3lNU

chuckrh
03-15-2020, 04:59 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ES_g0KLWkAMvlV1?format=jpg&name=small

M1ke
03-15-2020, 06:08 AM
LOL LOL.

Although, technically, it's taking out the Silent Generation as its primary victims (https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-older-people-with-chronic-conditions-need-to-know-about-covid-19#Older-or-with-underlying-conditions-at-greatest-risk). (The oldest Boomer is 75; the youngest is 59)

Interesting stats on age, underlying medical condition, etc.: https://www.mystateline.com/news/everything-we-know-about-the-41-coronavirus-deaths-in-the-u-s/

Watched Anthony Fauci on TV a few times, he said all of this is pretty consistent with the flu, and even with cancer; the older you get, the more apt you are to die because your immune system starts to suck (especially if you have underlying conditions like obesity, diabetes, heart conditions, lung conditions, etc.).

https://twitter.com/markwby/status/1238867143363567616?s=20

If I'm reading this correctly, it sounds like Millenials are killing the silent generation now too? In addition to the economy?

mtc
03-15-2020, 06:41 AM
So, for once, I'm HAPPY to be living in one of the most remote regions in the country.

There is no shortage of anything in this area, yet (this area being where texas, ok, and nm converge.)

feel free to send me some toilet paper. TP crises is real in NY.

Archive_Reports
03-15-2020, 07:19 AM
Anyone amount of people still not taking social distancing seriously is not only abhorrent but teuly discouraging as well. "If it doesn't affect me, fuck it" mindset is really showing its face in a lot of individuals.

WorzelG
03-15-2020, 07:47 AM
I was so ill for the month of February with the worst cold I’ve ever had, with a terrible hacking cough that actually pulled my stomach muscles, sore throat that felt as bad as when I had tonsillitis, that I would jest that I’d already had Coronavirus. A lot of family members had the same

This morning I spoke to somebody at Tesco whose paramedic son-in-law believes this has been going around the UK since Christmas but we just didn’t have a name for it.

interesting theory and it certainly was the worst ‘cold’ I’ve ever experienced although I didn’t have a fever. Wonder how you go about checking if you’ve had it? Does it always cause respiratory problems

theimage13
03-15-2020, 08:32 AM
I was so ill for the month of February with the worst cold I’ve ever had, with a terrible hacking cough that actually pulled my stomach muscles, sore throat that felt as bad as when I had tonsillitis, that I would jest that I’d already had Coronavirus. A lot of family members had the same

This morning I spoke to somebody at Tesco whose paramedic son-in-law believes this has been going around the UK since Christmas but we just didn’t have a name for it.

interesting theory and it certainly was the worst ‘cold’ I’ve ever experienced although I didn’t have a fever. Wonder how you go about checking if you’ve had it? Does it always cause respiratory problems

With all due respect to paramedics (they're awesome, seriously), they're not the ones I'd go to for theories on infectious diseases. Pathologists and other MDs, yes. Paramedics, not so much.

What you described is something that's gone around every year for at least as long as I've been alive. It doesn't sound like COVID-19 to me. Hell, the better half had that last year.

WorzelG
03-15-2020, 09:48 AM
With all due respect to paramedics (they're awesome, seriously), they're not the ones I'd go to for theories on infectious diseases. Pathologists and other MDs, yes. Paramedics, not so much.

What you described is something that's gone around every year for at least as long as I've been alive. It doesn't sound like COVID-19 to me. Hell, the better half had that last year.
True and I know I’m being paranoid but most of the descriptions I’ve read of Coronavirus make it sound just like that, a bad cold /flu.

botley
03-15-2020, 09:55 AM
True and I know I’m being paranoid but most of the descriptions I’ve read of Coronavirus make it sound just like that, a bad cold /flu.
It IS a bad cold/flu (the common cold is caused by another form of Coronavirus) but this new one is especially bad because nobody has immunity to it yet, so it's spreading like wildfire. I've heard that it may die down in the Northern hemisphere's summer months, but just as soon could come roaring back in the fall even more rampantly, like the influenza pandemic did in 1918–'19.

ManBurning
03-15-2020, 11:35 AM
feel free to send me some toilet paper. TP crises is real in NY.

It's not just TP, it's literally everything!

Went to one of our main grocery store chain's here yesterday for a few regular items, and the shelves were pillaged. Canned goods, soups, frozen stuff, bread, vitamin C, juice, chips, crackers etc... all bare. It was insanity!
I went to a small independently owned corner store after, and found what I needed. It's the small guy's that are going to feel the wrath of this anyway, so I didn't mind paying a little extra for the items I needed.
Keep them in business.

I've started stocking up on shit when I see it now out of fear it might not be in the store next time when I actually do need it.
Seriously. Fuck people and their hoarding/panic buying.

chuckrh
03-15-2020, 12:54 PM
good piece about the ethics of touring during the crisis

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-country/james-mcmurtry-coronavirus-trump-967512/

sick among the pure
03-15-2020, 04:35 PM
Somebody flat out freaked at my partner's work when she told them we were going to eat there. "But the virus could be in the food, it's Chinese food!" I don't even understand how out of touch someone has to be, to be so ignorant as to believe that.

Yeah, people are just that dense about this whole thing. Multiple Walmarts near me were packed with people and shelves were empty, I went to H Mart (an Asian food market chain, but with food from various regions including American staples, for anyone unfamiliar) and they were stocked up and had regular shopping traffic inside.

Jon
03-15-2020, 04:53 PM
Yeah, people are just that dense about this whole thing. Multiple Walmarts near me were packed with people and shelves were empty, I went to H Mart (an Asian food market chain, but with food from various regions including American staples, for anyone unfamiliar) and they were stocked up and had regular shopping traffic inside.

The Wal-Marts around here have been closing at 10pm or midnight for a few hours so that they can quickly stock the shelves. They've been selling out of basic paper goods every day, and I'm talking about those 20 foot high metal shelves.

I get that kids spread diseases, etc., but closing down the educational system for 17 days is bonkers. Like botley said, what's going to happen if this comes back worse in the fall?

Archive_Reports
03-15-2020, 04:55 PM
https://twitter.com/katiezez/status/1239277084679307264?s=19

Holy shit, good for him. Everyone should be doing this IMMEDIATELY.

NotoriousTIMP
03-15-2020, 05:10 PM
So the government is covering sick time for those who get infected. I'm curious to see how this pans out...

marodi
03-15-2020, 05:23 PM
Here, in the great and wonderful province of Québec, the list of closed stuff goes on and on. Schools, gyms, libraries, movie theaters, bars, all you can eat restaurants... even the sugar shacks which are in full swing right now. My mother, that maple loving addict, is especially sad about that.

I'm not really concerned about myself but I am concerned about her. She's 78 and in so so health. She lives in her own apartment, at about a 5 minutes walk from mine. She has enough food to last her until summer and enough toilet paper until fall. She always had a thing about buying way more tp than she needed, haha.

But she gets bouts of cabin fever and suddenly, after 3 or 4 days, she usually has "errands" to run. In her language, running errands means that she drives me to the stores and I go get her what she wants. Now, like I said, I'm not concerned for myself but I am concerned about catching that shit and passing it on to her. She very strongly believes that there is no danger of that since " I already wash my hands 100 times a day and I always have Purrell with me". In other words, she feels totally safe because I have OCD.

Right.

*le sigh*

allegro
03-15-2020, 05:26 PM
https://twitter.com/katiezez/status/1239277084679307264?s=19

Holy shit, good for him. Everyone should be doing this IMMEDIATELY.

Governor Pritzker pulled the trigger and shut down ALL bars and restaurants today, through the end of March, except for pick-up and delivery (Illinois / Chicago).

This was evidently after bars were PACKED last night in Wrigleyville for St. Patrick’s Day with stupid drunks.

My husband and I are TOTALLY isolating, now. We got supplies for my elderly Mom, and took her elderly neighbor shopping at the supermarket, yesterday; then made sure they both understand that they each CANNOT leave their apartments at all. Like, no laundry room or anything. They have a bunch of pop-up disinfectant wipes and I’ll run more over as they run out.

We have enough supplies, here, to last us for a while. Luckily, we have a storage room where I’d already stored stuff that’s now coming in handy.

Stay safe, you all.



marodi - Molly Jong-Fast, daughter of author Erica Jong, said her Mom was the same way until Molly showed her satellite pics of mass graves burying the dead from Covid-19 in Iran. This shit is almost the fucking plague.

allegro
03-15-2020, 05:40 PM
I get that kids spread diseases, etc., but closing down the educational system for 17 days is bonkers. Like botley said, what's going to happen if this comes back worse in the fall?

I suspect the shut-down is going to extend well into Summer. Tony Fauci said, in the press conference today, that they’re trying to flatten the curve. This means instead of it being an exponential increase like they had in China and Italy, you totally isolate and he says we will STILL have a bunch more cases ahead of us, but small enough that the system won’t be totally overwhelmed.

Which is what happened in China and Italy; not enough hospital staff or ventilators and they had to choose who lived and the rest died, and doctors and nurses died because they didn’t have enough respirators.

And, then, because the virus can’t spread because there’s nobody to spread it TO and it’s already dead on surfaces, it flattens. And then sunlight from summer arrives. Theoretically.

Sarah K
03-15-2020, 06:26 PM
NYC Public schools are closed starting tomorrow until at least 04/20.

I'm still going into work every other day and working remotely the others - trading with my supervisor.

Our union is putting pressure on the University to transition into fully remote work for the remainder of the semester. I can't see that happening, but hoping for the end of the month.

On Thursday and Friday I went to three different stores to pick up some groceries, and there was just nothing left.

Edit - work FINALLY called it for all non-essential staff to work remotely tomorrow. But they only said tomorrow - hopefully they change that and this is just the first step.

theimage13
03-15-2020, 07:28 PM
So the government is covering sick time for those who get infected. I'm curious to see how this pans out...

Can't claim you were infected if you can't get tested ;)

Sarah K
03-15-2020, 10:02 PM
All bars, restaurants, and theatres will be closed. Restaurants can do delivery only. No dining in.

Shit's ramping up in NYC.

eachpassingphase
03-15-2020, 10:49 PM
All bars, restaurants, and theatres will be closed. Restaurants can do delivery only. No dining in.

Shit's ramping up in NYC.

You know it's gotten bad when even NYC has to slow down .

chuckrh
03-16-2020, 02:08 AM
here's some updates from seattle. we are closed now.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/king-county-and-washington-state-to-act-on-bars-restaurants-and-gatherings/


https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/as-coronavirus-causes-9-11-type-collapse-in-demand-for-jets-boeing-may-slash-production/


https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/evergreenhealth-doctor-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-in-critical-condition/


https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/seattle-in-the-age-of-coronavirus-not-quite-empty-but-eerie/

Haysey_Draws
03-16-2020, 04:01 AM
So i'm back in the office as my cough has gone and i feel fine, and i was advised by my work to come back as it's Business as Usual...the office is filled with people coughing, but everyone that can work from home are already, these are the people that haven't been given access to work from home or told they can...and everyone is coming in as the government hasn't told us not too and we don't wanna risk our jobs...this whole situation is fucked.

versusreality
03-16-2020, 04:05 AM
I'm glad that these actions are being taken, closing the schools, restaurants, bars etc. there's a part of me that wishes we did it a week or two ago though. imagine how much lower the numbers would be if that were the case?

chuckrh
03-16-2020, 04:31 AM
So i'm back in the office as my cough has gone and i feel fine, and i was advised by my work to come back as it's Business as Usual...the office is filled with people coughing, but everyone that can work from home are already, these are the people that haven't been given access to work from home or told they can...and everyone is coming in as the government hasn't told us not too and we don't wanna risk our jobs...this whole situation is fucked.

the UK is certainly handling the crisis in an unique manner. it's not a good thing for anyone. think/hope that saner heads will prevail for you. it's almost like they want to have a culling of the herd, so to speak. my government (US) isn't much better at the national level. most of the concrete action that is being taken is being done at a state/local level. stay safe.

Haysey_Draws
03-16-2020, 04:35 AM
the UK is certainly handling the crisis in an unique manner. it's not a good thing for anyone. think/hope that saner heads will prevail for you. it's almost like they want to have a culling of the herd, so to speak. my government (US) isn't much better at the national level. most of the concrete action that is being taken is being done at a state/local level. stay safe.

Unique is definitely one way of putting it lol

Substance242
03-16-2020, 05:17 AM
theoatmeal.com about how to touch your face less.
https://theoatmeal.com/comics/touch_face

theimage13
03-16-2020, 07:22 AM
I'm glad that these actions are being taken, closing the schools, restaurants, bars etc. there's a part of me that wishes we did it a week or two ago though. imagine how much lower the numbers would be if that were the case?

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89824552_2843814815702996_5909822914227601408_n.jp g?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=2d5d41&_nc_ohc=s8JJissKbHAAX_nJd4C&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=0eaf7d04cb440aa87369839d65d50c62&oe=5E945723

I normally hate simplified memes with a passion, but this is just absolutely spot on. (There was another one that said something to the effect of "the best response would have been one that made it look like we did it all for nothing and completely overreacted", which was also accurate.)

REPLICA
03-16-2020, 09:09 AM
Here in western North Carolina, it seems we've had an influx of people from out of state. I've seen a ton of people from Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina. From what I've heard, some of the news organizations have been telling people to go to the mountains because you can't contract Coronavirus here because of the air quality. Of course, that's not viral infections work.

sweeterthan
03-16-2020, 10:21 AM
Here in western North Carolina, it seems we've had an influx of people from out of state. I've seen a ton of people from Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina. From what I've heard, some of the news organizations have been telling people to go to the mountains because you can't contract Coronavirus here because of the air quality. Of course, that's not viral infections work.

Oh weird. My mother in law was saying last night she wanted to go to the mountains. I thought it was because we were planning a family spring break trip. But she’s already buying into “it’s just the flu” idea so maybe she thinks we’d be safer up there.


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allegate
03-16-2020, 10:22 AM
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89824552_2843814815702996_5909822914227601408_n.jp g?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=2d5d41&_nc_ohc=s8JJissKbHAAX_nJd4C&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=0eaf7d04cb440aa87369839d65d50c62&oe=5E945723

I normally hate simplified memes with a passion, but this is just absolutely spot on. (There was another one that said something to the effect of "the best response would have been one that made it look like we did it all for nothing and completely overreacted", which was also accurate.)
you think those same geniuses will make the correlation to climate change?

nah, I know.

allegate
03-16-2020, 10:23 AM
https://twitter.com/chocl8girl/status/1239568823893872641

https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1239553159154057216

Haysey_Draws
03-16-2020, 10:30 AM
Reports are already coming in from Ireland that up too 140,000 people have lost their jobs already from the service sector...fuck.

NotoriousTIMP
03-16-2020, 10:30 AM
I've never seen my city for barren...its pretty sad

https://jaymzk.redframe.com/gallery/silent-in-seattle/?fbclid=IwAR0Fq2FFau2a2LX0LEtYLXxj6XTlvS4ztcmmuTDW v3EFyvgFZDoFss7Y5Zs#/gallery/silent-in-seattle/dsc02152/

SchwarzerAbt
03-16-2020, 10:32 AM
Here in western North Carolina, it seems we've had an influx of people from out of state. I've seen a ton of people from Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina. From what I've heard, some of the news organizations have been telling people to go to the mountains because you can't contract Coronavirus here because of the air quality. Of course, that's not viral infections work.

Just to make it clear: a huge amount of the cases in Europe originate in the Alps (Northern Italy / Austria) and people coming home from skiing vacations are spreading the disease. Do not believe this!

Haysey_Draws
03-16-2020, 10:44 AM
OK so this is a thing i didn't even think about...a card shop in London near where i work just put up a sign advising they were only accepting card payments to protect it's staff and customers...Think about how many hands cash goes through and how far it travels?! London is already an almost cashless city anyway but most of the country isn't!

Jon
03-16-2020, 11:00 AM
theoatmeal.com about how to touch your face less.
https://theoatmeal.com/comics/touch_face

Totally OT, but I found the Pelvic Thrusting Cats comic again!

https://theoatmeal.com/comics/pelvic_thrusting_cats

allegro
03-16-2020, 11:58 AM
https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89824552_2843814815702996_5909822914227601408_n.jp g?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=2d5d41&_nc_ohc=s8JJissKbHAAX_nJd4C&_nc_ht=scontent-iad3-1.xx&oh=0eaf7d04cb440aa87369839d65d50c62&oe=5E945723


Stealing this (thanks!!!)

versusreality
03-16-2020, 12:57 PM
fuck it...decided to get drunk since I didn't have to go to work today. I rarely drink. stay safe everyone. love you.

october_midnight
03-16-2020, 01:20 PM
Damn, Idris Elba tested positive.

sweeterthan
03-16-2020, 01:34 PM
I know someone who works for a salon company and they’re telling employees they can take unpaid leave. I’m so upset for these people that have no safety net. Please let this turn out ok for them.

Bachy
03-16-2020, 01:43 PM
https://twitter.com/8goody3/status/1239278483114807298?s=20

Some may remember this bit from The Files of Police Squad:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdE83FX-Mto

Swykk
03-16-2020, 02:00 PM
Add Indiana to the list of states that are shutting down dine in restaurants, bars, etc for the next two weeks.

theimage13
03-16-2020, 02:11 PM
I'm officially unemployed for at least 3-4 months now.

allegate
03-16-2020, 02:35 PM
as a general rule I hate the "who did this" tweets so I'm just posting the image.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETP6IMoXgAQqpvj?format=jpg&name=small

Bachy
03-16-2020, 03:09 PM
Damn, Idris Elba tested positive.

Damn, that man better not go before he tells us where the fuck is Wallace.

In all seriousness, I wish a speedy recovery to Idris. This whole thing has gotten beyond out of control.

allegate
03-16-2020, 03:14 PM
https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1239620587820990464

Magnetic
03-16-2020, 03:16 PM
I'm really hoping all of this crap won't make my new employers gun shy about hiring me. I was given a verbal offer on Friday, but it's 4.15pm, and I've yet to receive the offer letter that was promised to me today. :(

Magnetic
03-16-2020, 03:19 PM
I'm officially unemployed for at least 3-4 months now.
That sucks. I'm sorry.

allegate
03-16-2020, 03:36 PM
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1239641829668261893

So why doesn't he just drop out? He's getting roasted here so just resign and let someone else take this heat.

allegate
03-16-2020, 04:18 PM
coming at this at the end so here's the beginning of the story:

https://twitter.com/jacknicas/status/1238849786356224000

and today:

https://twitter.com/HunterHoagland/status/1239214617064288259

whoops.

theimage13
03-16-2020, 04:20 PM
So as well as suspected, he hasn't been tested for it. No surprise there.

chuckrh
03-16-2020, 04:27 PM
I'm really hoping all of this crap won't make my new employers gun shy about hiring me. I was given a verbal offer on Friday, but it's 4.15pm, and I've yet to receive the offer letter that was promised to me today. :(

Hang in there!!!!

richardp
03-16-2020, 04:28 PM
I work at a Day Program where we work with individuals with developmental disabilities (MANY of which have autoimmune disorders). Obviously these are people that should NOT be in public, let alone packed inside of an art studio with each other all day long. Today we sat down and had a company wide meeting about their plan for the outbreak and we were told that we would NOT be allowed to close, and it would be business as usual. They also told part time employees to, and I'm not paraphrasing, I am directly quoting here, "deal with it, and file for unemployment" if they are unable to work. Us full timers are supposed to just use our PTO days, but as we had to shut down for a blizzard earlier this year, I already used up all my time. Their solution to this problem was to offer 5 additional PTO days that I would not receive later in the year.

I'm fucking so angry at these fucking people. How irrisponsible and dangerous it is to expect the individuals that we care for to get up, get on their transportation, come to an art studio, work around 50-60 other people at any given time, and then get on transportation again and go home to their home care staff, that work for multiple people. Let alone, to seemingly act like you think it'll all be over in like two weeks? Get a fucking grip, get a plan, and take care of your fucking employees and the individuals that those employees provide care for. Like.... it's fucking infuriating.

HOW ARE PEOPLE STILL NOT TAKING THIS FUCKING SERIOUSLY.

laststepdown
03-16-2020, 05:49 PM
I got stared at royally for going to home depot with a mask on. Was there for two things, didn't browse. The midwest is going to multiply in the next coming weeks. They were just congregating. Standing around. What is fucking wrong with the public actually.

allegate
03-16-2020, 05:56 PM
https://twitter.com/jeffvandermeer/status/1239680182329298947

bugsbunnyflorida.gif

chuckrh
03-16-2020, 06:13 PM
I got stared at royally for going to home depot with a mask on. Was there for two things, didn't browse. The midwest is going to multiply in the next coming weeks. They were just congregating. Standing around. What is fucking wrong with the public actually.

I get that about the mask in Seattle! I'm high risk & would be stupid not to wear it. I have a friend in Montana who refuses to believe. Says its just the flu & will go away when it gets warm. Ahhhh, it's summer in Australia. Maybe part of the problem is cancelling cultural events. The only culture is going to a bar, drinking, hopping in a car & driving 20 miles to next bar which is virtually identical to the one you left half hour ago. He'll wake up when the first bar in town closes due to this.

allegro
03-16-2020, 06:40 PM
I was wearing a mask at the supermarket in mid-February because I’d just been to the doctor and was diagnosed with viral bronchitis (I had to pick up a Rx at the pharmacy, plus some other stuff). Nobody looked at me twice. (The mask was from the dr.’s office.)

Even Trump is on TV today telling people “this is bad.”


HOW ARE PEOPLE STILL NOT TAKING THIS FUCKING SERIOUSLY.
Politics and money.

DF118
03-16-2020, 07:43 PM
This is a great time to live in Manhattan.

Edit: ...I live in Manhattan.

allegate
03-16-2020, 10:16 PM
https://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/D8Image/2020/03/15/nationalenquirer-coronaviruscoverfb.png

that's just disgusting on so many levels.

richardp
03-16-2020, 11:00 PM
The midwest is going to multiply in the next coming weeks.

Dude I'm tellin you. It's gonna be BAD. There are SO MANY motherfuckers in KC here who legit just either don't give a shit or think they're fucking immune or some shit. Our Mayer here in KC had to publicly come out and tell everyone in the city to take it seriously, as over the weekend he drove around to see how many people were actually staying home and he found endless bar after endless bar with lines out the doors. Dude literally had to tell the city to be better. And it's shit like that why in a week, the midwest will be the new epicenter.

fillow
03-17-2020, 01:02 AM
that's just disgusting on so many levels.
I completely agree. Who the hell cuts the kids from a $20M will?

Haysey_Draws
03-17-2020, 03:25 AM
Ah the Uk government once again showing how incompetent they are. Announcing we should all work from home is possible, but not MAKING any business shut down, so in London today it's business as usual, because nobody is going to shut unless they are made too...so the spread will continue.

In other new i have a coin electrical meter, and the landlord upped the rate yesterday so i'm now paying more then double what i was...just in time for when we all have to stay home...cunt.

WorzelG
03-17-2020, 03:51 AM
Ah the Uk government once again showing how incompetent they are. Announcing we should all work from home is possible, but not MAKING any business shut down, so in London today it's business as usual, because nobody is going to shut unless they are made too...so the spread will continue.

In other new i have a coin electrical meter, and the landlord upped the rate yesterday so i'm now paying more then double what i was...just in time for when we all have to stay home...cunt.
Exactly this, it’s so wishy washy! We’re going on a last hurrah visit to a pub this afternoon though before they do go on lockdown and we end up in self isolation with our kids for a month - not sure if we’ll come out alive

in general news Idris Alba has tested positive for Coronavirus despite having no symptoms at all which is a bit worrying as how would you know to self isolate?

scotty79
03-17-2020, 06:48 AM
the uk government aren’t forcing places to close down as they know these businesses will be able to claim some sort of insurance so boris is hoping these business owners will do it out of free will which isn’t going to happen when there’s money to be made for them to survive and for there businesses to survive whether that be a bar or a cafe or restaurant or whatever

Haysey_Draws
03-17-2020, 07:05 AM
Annnnd i have access to work from home...but there's a tiny bit of small print. As the Gov haven't made it law my company still expect some people to come in, so we're being split in teams, team A in this week, Team B next week and back again.

...this won't stop the spread and just feels like we're making life hard for ourselves for little benefit.

theimage13
03-17-2020, 07:08 AM
Exactly this, it’s so wishy washy! We’re going on a last hurrah visit to a pub this afternoon though before they do go on lockdown and we end up in self isolation with our kids for a month - not sure if we’ll come out alive

in general news Idris Alba has tested positive for Coronavirus despite having no symptoms at all which is a bit worrying as how would you know to self isolate?

I think the whole point of things right now is to self isolate, period. If you're out of groceries, fine, go get 'em. Otherwise, fucking stay home whether you feel sick or not. Easier said than done, I know. But I think that's what we're aiming for at the moment.

Exocet
03-17-2020, 07:26 AM
this is such an unbelievably, unexpected seismic event, im still trying to make sense of it, so bewildering. 1000 new cases a day in Spain, past few days, jesus.
I have friends under Quarantine in Milan.

In Iran its absolutely devastating the government is too scared to release the figures. all unprecedented.
When was the last Pandemic to effect Western Europe/US like this? was it the Spanish Flu 100 years ago? its all unreal. totally unexpected, you sort of think this type of thing cant happen in the 2020's.

never seen anything paralyze Europe like this. its not the Spanish Flu, 100 years ago, that was on another level of brutality, but still this is really bad.

kdrcraig
03-17-2020, 07:34 AM
I think the whole point of things right now is to self isolate, period. If you're out of groceries, fine, go get 'em. Otherwise, fucking stay home whether you feel sick or not. Easier said than done, I know. But I think that's what we're aiming for at the moment.

That's exactly the mindset my wife and I have taken. We haven't left the house since our grocery run on Saturday. We were both already working from home so it's obviously way easier for us to do, and I fell incredibly lucky for that right now.

Jon
03-17-2020, 08:34 AM
I work at a Day Program where we work with individuals with developmental disabilities (MANY of which have autoimmune disorders). Obviously these are people that should NOT be in public, let alone packed inside of an art studio with each other all day long. Today we sat down and had a company wide meeting about their plan for the outbreak and we were told that we would NOT be allowed to close, and it would be business as usual.

First of all, thank you for the support you provide. As a parent with a child that has Downs Syndrome, it is hard to overstate how appreciative we are of places she can go and just "be herself". I understand this post was mostly about work, etc., but thank you.

Mantra
03-17-2020, 09:22 AM
Oh good, woke up today with a sore throat, cough, and a runny nose. Cool. Very cool.

ickyvicky
03-17-2020, 09:48 AM
Super weird to have a birthday during all this. :p

I don't know if it's been mentioned already - NY has closed all gyms, movie theaters, and casinos. All restaurants and bars are only take-out and delivery. Grocery stores remain open.

Funny mention: I just got an email from Hot Topic that they're closing all it's stores (and continuing to pay their employees.)

sweeterthan
03-17-2020, 09:58 AM
I’m having to go to the grocery store everyday because my fridge is still broken. It was scheduled to be repaired today but there’s no sign of that happening. No answer at the repair company. No answer from the manufacturer. I cannot believe this shit.


Edit: a repair man just called saying they’re on the way. Hallelujah

ickyvicky
03-17-2020, 10:10 AM
That sucks, I'm sorry :(

cdm
03-17-2020, 10:23 AM
Oh good, woke up today with a sore throat, cough, and a runny nose. Cool. Very cool.

I know how you feel...every weird / different feeling and you think of the worst. This chart has been floating around:

539

tony.parente
03-17-2020, 10:23 AM
Yo this corona shit is wack.

chuckrh
03-17-2020, 10:38 AM
Things are still a mess in Washington state (see link below). I was supposed to see 1 of my doctors today & was going to get set up for a test. They called yesterday & cancelled my appointment because I have some but not all of virus symptoms. So I asked about a test & was told I still can't get one because there aren't enough kits. I called my other doctor & got the same message & that it didn't sound like COVID 19. Given that the manifestations differ from person to person I'm not happy with this prognosis over the phone. Evidently the WHO message about test, test, test hasn't been received yet. I still do not feel well at all & am going to pursue some other avenues toward a test. A pharmacy chain has set up a drive up test station near where I live but no one knows what the criteria there is yet. My doctor did take me off the new chemo medicine. At this point, I haven't had effective RA therapy since late last fall & the RA is on the rampage. It is getting very hard to get around. As indicated in the article below, there is much confusion in the health care system here with opposing messages being put forth depending on who you talk to. The graph from Mr DDD above shows we are rapidly approaching 1000 cases in the state. I think that if the authorities ever get their act together & everyone who needs a test gets one, that number is going to increase greatly. I am still acting responsibly with isolation, etc & trying to get tested since I am high risk. It is depressing though. I should be seeing the rheumatologist if for no other reason than to have my blood tested to make sure the drug I just stopped hasn't caused another problem. It is dangerous stuff. Also, to figure out the next step. The current model clearly isn't working & the damage is accumulating rapidly.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/times-watchdog/washington-coronavirus-hotlines-were-unprepared-for-onslaught-of-callers/

Haysey_Draws
03-17-2020, 11:46 AM
So now my eldest niece has a cough and the school has told my sister and brother in law they have to self isolate for 14days...which is understandably causing issues for my granddads funeral next week...

This all couldn't have happened at a worse time :(

eachpassingphase
03-17-2020, 11:51 AM
First of all, thank you for the support you provide. As a parent with a child that has Downs Syndrome, it is hard to overstate how appreciative we are of places she can go and just "be herself". I understand this post was mostly about work, etc., but thank you.

Same. Our daughter has Cerebral Palsy, we will likely rely on the support of people like richardp for the rest of our daughter's life. THANK YOU! I know this work is hard on DSP's, coordinators and day program employees, because there just aren't many options.

allegate
03-17-2020, 12:25 PM
saw reports of amazon cutting down shipping of non-essentials but this is an important clarification:

https://twitter.com/CHHR01/status/1239954745470509061

botley
03-17-2020, 01:03 PM
in general news Idris Alba has tested positive for Coronavirus despite having no symptoms at all which is a bit worrying as how would you know to self isolate?

I wanna know how he got to be tested in the first place, when people showing clear symptoms can't get access to tests.

Swykk
03-17-2020, 01:20 PM
He’s a celebrity with Scrooge McDuck money.

That said, I like Elba and hope he’s okay.

marodi
03-17-2020, 01:25 PM
I wanna know how he got to be tested in the first place, when people showing clear symptoms can't get access to tests.

I can almost read your mind. I'll answer this: he's British and I don't know what the specifics on testing are over there and he knew he had been in contact with someone who tested positive so it may have been a factor too.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/16/entertainment/idris-elba-coronavirus-trnd/index.html

But @WorzelG (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=811) is right. The asymptomatic people who are positive is what truly worries me. They don't spread this willingly, they just don't know. Stay home and stay safe, my friends!

M1ke
03-17-2020, 03:51 PM
Finally, after 3 days of back and forth with my bosses I got some movement on my entire department being declared essential and having to work (we empty a mailbox and ship it to another office, that's literally the only part that has us deemed essential).

Instead of needing my entire department in to empty the mailbox that gets 20-100 letters on an average day, I've got them to cut it down to 1 staff member at a time only. With only 1 person in the building we're still isolated. I still think we should just put a sign up and all stay home, but at least it's something.

I don't know why that took 3 days of arguing when our Prime Minister is telling everyone to stay the fuck home, but at least I got somewhere eventually.

Magnetic
03-17-2020, 04:11 PM
Interestingly enough I got my job offer from the company that just hired me, which is good. The bad news is that my start date is a month from now, or 'whenever the office reopens.'

allegro
03-17-2020, 04:41 PM
This from my husband:

Midway Airport has gone to ATC zero, meaning tower is closed

Five air traffic controllers are in hospital, one is in intensive care. Three more have tested positive.

versusreality
03-17-2020, 04:42 PM
wow, Kevin Durant has it. I worked for the Nets a few years ago and still know some people there. scary.

Sarah K
03-17-2020, 05:31 PM
Pretty sure that NYC will transition to mandatory shelter in place by the end of the week. This morning the Mayor said they are "considering" it and a decision would be made within 48 hours... Don't think they would even say that if there isn't a 99% probability of it happening.

theimage13
03-17-2020, 05:56 PM
Pretty sure that NYC will transition to mandatory shelter in place by the end of the week. This morning the Mayor said they are "considering" it and a decision would be made within 48 hours... Don't think they would even say that if there isn't a 99% probability of it happening.

Unless saying it is meant as a final warning shot for stupid imbeciles to stay inside. "Hey, idiots, if you can't play nicely with each other then NONE of you get any toys."

But yeah, I would be surprised if it doesn't actually get enacted soon.

allegate
03-17-2020, 06:02 PM
this is some bullshit. zero-hour employees...for what?

https://twitter.com/Skeletress/status/1239997401399799818

also click through to see skeletress go all in there.

allegro
03-17-2020, 06:19 PM
this is some bullshit. zero-hour employees...for what?

https://twitter.com/Skeletress/status/1239997401399799818

also click through to see skeletress go all in there.

That needs to go totally viral to put Marriott in Major Shame Mode.

theimage13
03-17-2020, 06:36 PM
Marriott Titanium Platinum whatever the fuck they call it now member here. They've heard from me.

richardp
03-17-2020, 07:36 PM
Same. Our daughter has Cerebral Palsy, we will likely rely on the support of people like @richardp (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=139) for the rest of our daughter's life. THANK YOU! I know this work is hard on DSP's, coordinators and day program employees, because there just aren't many options.

Some of us at the studio are starting to reach out to other agencies locally to see if they can fill in with in home support shifts, because obviously there will be so many whose home staff will not be able to come in and care for them as they have to tend to their own families. But I'm staying at the studio until the city mandates we shut down, to continue providing care with the few individuals we have left at the moment as part of a bare bones staff. I really wish the company would have the brains to just let us close though. It feels so utterly irresponsible to still put even the handful of individuals who are not staying at home with their parents or home staff in such a dangerous environment to potentially be infected.

It's been a weird couple of days. Tryin to keep the ones who are able to understand what's going on as occupied as possible to keep their minds off of everything, and then trying to keep ones who can't understand what's going on just safe and trying to keep everyone at a distance. I'm so fucking stressed though right now. I honestly haven't been this stressed in years.

Bachy
03-17-2020, 09:44 PM
Had to drive all the way to Denver from Colorado Springs just to get some damn toilet paper.

Magnetic
03-17-2020, 10:41 PM
I'm sorry. People are asshats.

Magnetic
03-17-2020, 10:44 PM
Some of us at the studio are starting to reach out to other agencies locally to see if they can fill in with in home support shifts, because obviously there will be so many whose home staff will not be able to come in and care for them as they have to tend to their own families. But I'm staying at the studio until the city mandates we shut down, to continue providing care with the few individuals we have left at the moment as part of a bare bones staff. I really wish the company would have the brains to just let us close though. It feels so utterly irresponsible to still put even the handful of individuals who are not staying at home with their parents or home staff in such a dangerous environment to potentially be infected.

It's been a weird couple of days. Tryin to keep the ones who are able to understand what's going on as occupied as possible to keep their minds off of everything, and then trying to keep ones who can't understand what's going on just safe and trying to keep everyone at a distance. I'm so fucking stressed though right now. I honestly haven't been this stressed in years.

Thank you for the work you do.

Bachy
03-17-2020, 10:47 PM
I commend the Wal-Mart I went to to grab toilet paper. They had a line to the stock room where people walked up to and asked the clerk for toilet paper and they would give each shopper ONE 12-pack of TP. This is how it should be done. Ration it out to people and prevent panic shoppers from selfishly hoarding all the supplies for themselves.

Erneuert
03-18-2020, 12:49 AM
You can’t make this shit up...

A church in South Korea sprayed saltwater in its members’ mouths in the belief it would protect them from coronavirus.


But since the nozzle of the spray bottle was never disinfected, it had the opposite effect.


Local health authorities in the Gyeonggi Province, south of Seoul, said 46 church-goers were infected on Monday, according to the South China Morning Post.


About 100 followers attended the prayer gatherings on March 1 and March 8.

ManBurning
03-18-2020, 01:32 AM
I think the whole point of things right now is to self isolate, period. If you're out of groceries, fine, go get 'em. Otherwise, fucking stay home whether you feel sick or not. Easier said than done, I know. But I think that's what we're aiming for at the moment.



That's exactly the mindset my wife and I have taken. We haven't left the house since our grocery run on Saturday. We were both already working from home so it's obviously way easier for us to do, and I fell incredibly lucky for that right now.

Yeah, you guys are suuuper lucky. My work is still forcing us to go in... we work in an office, and I don't drive! I take transit. I went to work on Sunday, and on Monday I was planning on having a "talk" with my manager how I no longer feel comfortable coming into work on transit. I got into work, and the announced an hours of operation change, which affects me big time. So I had an anxiety attack and went to my manager and said I couldn't work under these conditions, especially taking the bus/train back and forth for 45 mins and now with our reduced hours, they want me to come in even earlier than normal and disrupt my sleeping habits. They have me an "unpaid stress day" on Monday to just go home. I just stocked up on a bunch of vitamins and groceries on the way home and haven't left the house since. I have Tues-Thurs off this week as regular days and a, required to report back to work on Friday with new earlier hours, but I told my manager that I wasn't comfortable doing that, and he said he was going to talk to his manager and see what options they have for me and would call me by end of day Monday with a plan and... they never did. So, I doubt they are taking my concern seriously. I'm not jeopardizing my health for this job.

Me and the manager almost got into an argument about the severity of the disease. He said "It's really not that bad. Most people only get mild symptoms" I told him now was not the time and place to argue about the severity of a disease under a global pandemic. Urgh... to make matters worse, HIS boss just came back from Vacation from Florida last Thursday, and he went straight into the office...
he sent an e-mail out on Monday, after being there for 2 days saying "It has been brought to my attention that I offended some people by coming into the office after my return from Florida... I was not in a hot spot and don't think I should self quarantine, but out of respect, I will. *facepalm* are these people for real!?

This is how we become the next Italy... People are not taking this serious enough. The mortality rate is on the rise. Used to be 2-3% and now 4.03% and rising.
Well, I'm not going to transit to and from the office anymore. There was talks of getting us to work from home, but I have no idea what's going on with that. It's not that I don't want to work, I just don't want to commute to and from on public transit.

A small city/community/suburb outside of Vancouver called Abbotsford has called off all large gatherings until September 1st!!
Sept 1st!?! 6 months of this??? Gonna be a long year guys if they're anticipating this lasting this long:

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/03/16/abbotsford-closing-recreation-centres-non-essential-facilities-due-to-coronavirus/

My girlfriend has been given a laptop and the OK to start working from home. Will be interesting if I can start working from home too. We both work opposite hours and live in a tiny 1 bedroom condo.
Her work told her 3 weeks and then everything will be back to normal. But I told her they are being too optimistic, and i'd say at least 3 months. She said I was being negative and to have a more optimistic look at it. I told her I was being realistic. Not pessimistic, but realistic lol.

ManBurning
03-18-2020, 01:43 AM
Canada and USA in talks to close the boarder.
Announcement could be made tomorrow:

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/covid19/canada-usa-border-shutdown-covid19-2175948?fbclid=IwAR3RasUw1y3rMKAehykXwbgS8WF8MV_je tPyvpszfFHc-qUo_En2Fw238GU

Alexandros
03-18-2020, 01:50 AM
You can't make this shit up...

I'll raise you one: In my country, Greece, until very recently the fucking official Church more or less stated that the Holy Communion can't transmit the virus. The Holy Communion being that thing where all the congregation use the same spoon to receive a bit of wine with bread in.

After criticism poured in they sort of did some wishy washy statements about maybe be careful you guys but you know, still come to church. Finally the government realised that the church will not outright ban services and so did it for them. But there's no telling still what kind of effect this delay will have.

wizfan
03-18-2020, 03:23 AM
I'll raise you one: In my country, Greece, until very recently the fucking official Church more or less stated that the Holy Communion can't transmit the virus.

This is one of the most ridiculous, "not the Onion" headlines in this year's Greek news. I almost thought they were trolling.

fillow
03-18-2020, 03:28 AM
Same shit happening in Russia.
Put this page to Google translate and enjoy: https://varlamov.ru/3830001.html

chuckrh
03-18-2020, 03:58 AM
Interestingly enough I got my job offer from the company that just hired me, which is good. The bad news is that my start date is a month from now, or 'whenever the office reopens.'

I'm glad things moved in at least a somewhat positive direction for you.

chuckrh
03-18-2020, 04:00 AM
i'm finally getting tested today after over 2 weeks of trying to do so. the test situation in seattle is still pretty bad. i pointed out the logic of testing at risk people even if they have "only" some of the symptoms. there are a real lot of variables in my situation. could take a week for results but at least am doing something! fingers crossed for a negative result.

katara
03-18-2020, 04:24 AM
https://twitter.com/realavalouiise/status/1238915362470625292

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ava-louise-coronavirus-challenge-toilet-licking-video

For fuck's sake.

Haysey_Draws
03-18-2020, 04:29 AM
Welp my office is basically saying it's business as usual until the government force them to close. The router system they've suggested to start from next week has, quite rightly, been absolutely torn apart by everyone as it doesn't help stop the spread! My boss is in HR right now basically telling them everyone in his team is at risk and ALL OF US can work from home with no impact on the company...we'll see how this goes.

versusreality
03-18-2020, 04:43 AM
I'm starting to get thoughts that we're not too far away from the opening minutes news station scene from Dawn of the Dead.

Haysey_Draws
03-18-2020, 07:05 AM
Some scary stuff i'm hearing from the UK. According to my mate he had a meeting to discuses the possible shut down and impact, and he heard that if the gov shut the UK down companies would only be expected to pay part of a workers wage, regardless of weather they can work fully from home or not. The figure mentioned in his meeting was 50%...fucking WHAT?!

richardp
03-18-2020, 08:02 AM
Some scary stuff i'm hearing from the UK. According to my mate he had a meeting to discuses the possible shut down and impact, and he heard that if the gov shut the UK down companies would only be expected to pay part of a workers wage, regardless of weather they can work fully from home or not. The figure mentioned in his meeting was 50%...fucking WHAT?!

Thats still better than here in America where a vast majority of companies are refusing to pay furloughed workers at all.

theimage13
03-18-2020, 08:30 AM
Some scary stuff i'm hearing from the UK. According to my mate he had a meeting to discuses the possible shut down and impact, and he heard that if the gov shut the UK down companies would only be expected to pay part of a workers wage, regardless of weather they can work fully from home or not. The figure mentioned in his meeting was 50%...fucking WHAT?!

That's still 100% more than most people in America are going to get :(

Magnetic
03-18-2020, 10:12 AM
I feel so bad for all the businesses right now. Went on a booze run with my mom this morning. There's this French cafe/bakery next door to it that we frequent, and when I walked in it was empty. Normally this place is packed. The owner/ manager looked so distraught. I bought a ton of pastries that I normally wouldn't have. As soon as I get my contract finalized I'm going to try to order to-go as much as I can afford.

In other news, the wholesale store I was at actually had disinfectant wipes. Thankfully there were two employees to remind people one per card holding family.

Haysey_Draws
03-18-2020, 10:21 AM
Thats still better than here in America where a vast majority of companies are refusing to pay furloughed workers at all.

It's the bit where it say's even people that are can fully work from home, and are working, are only going to get half pay, that really made me angry. So companies that can operate fine with it's employee's working at home will get to only part pay their staff...that's fucking shit! People that can't work from home won't get paid at all unless the company wants to.

Haysey_Draws
03-18-2020, 10:22 AM
That's still 100% more than most people in America are going to get :(

Should have clarified, this is for people who are still working from home. People that can't work from home won't get anything, that's what's bollocks about it.

Jinsai
03-18-2020, 10:26 AM
we are heading for a global depression with no escape route or buy-out. It's going to happen.

richardp
03-18-2020, 10:27 AM
It's the bit where it say's even people that are can fully work from home, and are working, are only going to get half pay, that really made me angry. So companies that can operate fine with it's employee's working at home will get to only part pay their staff...that's fucking shit! People that can't work from home won't get paid at all unless the company wants to.

Getting half pay while working at home is MAJOR fucked up. Yeah, that's fucking garbage behavior if that really is happening. Luckily haven't heard of anything like that here yet. Everyone I know who has a job that lets them work from home aren't going to miss a dime.

Magnetic
03-18-2020, 10:42 AM
I'm not getting my hopes too high, but after reading some pre-prints, there's a chance this could be temperature sensitive.
It's way too early to tell, but if things could abate in the northern hemisphere during the summer, that could give researchers a chance to get a vaccine out before autumn.

I'm watching developments in Florida daily, as we're having some crazy wonderful warm weather. I can't tell if the numbers are real, because I have no idea how much their testing yet. Today they set up 5 drive-thru testing facilities in my area, so it'll be interesting to see how the numbers will look in time.

chuckrh
03-18-2020, 10:47 AM
I'm not getting my hopes too high, but after reading some pre-prints, there's a chance this could be temperature sensitive.
It's way too early to tell, but if things could abate in the northern hemisphere during the summer, that could give researchers a chance to get a vaccine out before autumn.

I'm watching developments in Florida daily, as we're having some crazy wonderful warm weather. I can't tell if the numbers are real, because I have no idea how much their testing yet. Today they set up 5 drive-thru testing facilities in my area, so it'll be interesting to see how the numbers will look in time.

Not to dash your hopes but it is summer in Australia & they have a problem.

ickyvicky
03-18-2020, 10:52 AM
Our school district (and my job, since we follow the schools) just extended their closure from March 29th to April 1st. Weird to add just a couple of days, but scary of how much longer we'll be closed.

Magnetic
03-18-2020, 10:53 AM
Yah, silly thinking there. And Florida has been under-testing. We jumped up 45% over one day because the gov finally ordered better testing measures.

Bachy
03-18-2020, 10:55 AM
My ex works at a salon and one of her coworkers is showing symptoms of COVID-19 but they’re still making her come to work. The girl wrote about it on her FB and corporate told her manager she needs to get her under control. I’m thinking she should file a lawsuit. That is some downright careless disgusting bullshit.

theimage13
03-18-2020, 10:56 AM
Should have clarified, this is for people who are still working from home. People that can't work from home won't get anything, that's what's bollocks about it.

How is that even legal? Wonder if workers will be able to band together and strike. "50% pay, huh? Okay, we'll clock in for the first time around noon at midweek." See how the bosses are feeling by Monday afternoon.

Magnetic
03-18-2020, 10:59 AM
My ex works at a salon and one of her coworkers is showing symptoms of COVID-19 but they’re still making her come to work. The girl wrote about it on her FB and corporate told her manager she needs to get her under control. I’m thinking she should file a lawsuit. That is some downright careless disgusting bullshit.

What's the name of the place? Name and shame.

ickyvicky
03-18-2020, 11:01 AM
State Unemployment Websites Crash as Applications Surge

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/coronavirus-state-unemployment-websites-crash-applications-surge-n1162731

Jinsai
03-18-2020, 11:01 AM
looking at these fools going to the beach in Miami... it's been raining here in Los Angeles, which I think is helping the message to stay at home. As soon as we have a great beach-day, idiots are gonna be all like "hey, we're off work" and head out.

CLOSE THE FUCKING BEACHES. NOW!!!!!!

Bachy
03-18-2020, 11:01 AM
What's the name of the place? Name and shame.

The corporation is Regis.

Magnetic
03-18-2020, 11:04 AM
https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/10-positive-updates-on-the-covid-19-outbreaks-from-around-the-world/?fbclid=IwAR0f6gcgWu_oMbqJQwJprppKVaJLRRIfkZheya4V CIq6vY71HLknpI8YAg0

We need some good news.

Haysey_Draws
03-18-2020, 11:05 AM
Getting half pay while working at home is MAJOR fucked up. Yeah, that's fucking garbage behavior if that really is happening. Luckily haven't heard of anything like that here yet. Everyone I know who has a job that lets them work from home aren't going to miss a dime.

This was from a friend who was in a meeting discussing it, and apparently 50% is the mooted percent IF the gov force offices to shut down...i mean if that happens alot of people will be fucked, and they sure as hell won't want to work with their full attention.

Bachy
03-18-2020, 11:06 AM
looking at these fools going to the beach in Miami... it's been raining here in Los Angeles, which I think is helping the message to stay at home. As soon as we have a great beach-day, idiots are gonna be all like "hey, we're off work" and head out.

CLOSE THE FUCKING BEACHES. NOW!!!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=100X1R2fkKA

Haysey_Draws
03-18-2020, 11:08 AM
How is that even legal? Wonder if workers will be able to band together and strike. "50% pay, huh? Okay, we'll clock in for the first time around noon at midweek." See how the bosses are feeling by Monday afternoon.

I honestly have no idea, this was just from a friend who was in a meeting where it was discussed (his company didn't mention what they would do in that regard, so i think it's it might be optional) but yeah people will be so demotivated to do anything from home everything will just get worse. It's a nuts situation...

Jinsai
03-18-2020, 11:34 AM
what is Trump talking about when he's saying China tried to blame the US military for the disease? If he's so offended by this smear, surely there's evidence of the accusation?!

ickyvicky
03-18-2020, 11:36 AM
"The China Flu"

Haysey_Draws
03-18-2020, 11:36 AM
what is Trump talking about when he's saying China tried to blame the US military for the disease? If he's so offended by this smear, surely there's evidence of the accusation?!

The evidence is in his imagination...he doesn't need anything else :eek:

allegate
03-18-2020, 11:47 AM
https://twitter.com/odonnell_r/status/1240023290988691459

holy fuck.

october_midnight
03-18-2020, 12:09 PM
https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1240271892386394113

Jinsai
03-18-2020, 01:06 PM
so the US / Canada border is now closed for non-essential traffic?

allegate
03-18-2020, 01:11 PM
my God indeed.

https://twitter.com/morningmoneyben/status/1240330224203694081

chuckrh
03-18-2020, 01:29 PM
so the US / Canada border is now closed for non-essential traffic?

yes or very soon if it hasn't already. people will be able to get home if on wrong side of border though.

Magnetic
03-18-2020, 02:07 PM
https://twitter.com/odonnell_r/status/1240023290988691459

holy fuck.
WTF? It's this kind of shit that has people out buying guns.

Mantra
03-18-2020, 02:34 PM
I was looking at this corona virus tracker website: https://ncov2019.live/

And one thing that popped out to me is that Germany's mortality rates are super low for how many cases they have. Almost 12,000 cases and only 28 deaths. The next one up is Spain with 14,000 cases and 624 deaths. It's just weird. I wonder what the story is with that. Seems like they must be doing something right. Do they just have way more ventilators or something?

Sarah K
03-18-2020, 02:46 PM
I just received a call from our HR Director who told me that on Friday, I had direct contact with a student who has symptoms and got tested today. The results should be back in 4 - 5 days, and I am advised to self-quarantine for the next two weeks.

Thankfully, I haven't left my apartment since I got home from work on Friday so if I was exposed/am carrying it, my opportunity to spread it to others was minimal and only on the train home that night.

My partner was supposed to come this weekend (he only lives here about 1/2 the time) - that's out the window now, as he has kids at home and I don't want to run the risk of passing it on to them. :(

Magnetic
03-18-2020, 03:25 PM
I was looking at this corona virus tracker website: https://ncov2019.live/

And one thing that popped out to me is that Germany's mortality rates are super low for how many cases they have. Almost 12,000 cases and only 28 deaths. The next one up is Spain with 14,000 cases and 624 deaths. It's just weird. I wonder what the story is with that. Seems like they must be doing something right. Do they just have way more ventilators or something?

It could be an age demographic or maybe more related to the overall health of people in that region. I don't think diabetes/ obesity/ heart disease is as rampant there as it could be in other countries?


I just received a call from our HR Director who told me that on Friday, I had direct contact with a student who has symptoms and got tested today. The results should be back in 4 - 5 days, and I am advised to self-quarantine for the next two weeks.

Thankfully, I haven't left my apartment since I got home from work on Friday so if I was exposed/am carrying it, my opportunity to spread it to others was minimal and only on the train home that night.

My partner was supposed to come this weekend (he only lives here about 1/2 the time) - that's out the window now, as he has kids at home and I don't want to run the risk of passing it on to them. :(

That sucks, I'm sorry. If you have it, I hope it's very mild.

A friend of mine visited NY last February. He was on vacation visiting friends, and so he didn't really pay much attention to the news. When he got home (UK), he had a mild fever, tightness in his chest when he breathed deeply, with a sore throat and generally felt lousy. And yet he refuses to get tested. Ugh!!!!!!

theimage13
03-18-2020, 03:55 PM
s/o may have it. Showing symptoms and has been in contact with people who are now sick, who had been in contact with family from South Korea. Managed to get a test, but we're looking at almost a week before results. Uuuuuuugh.

SchwarzerAbt
03-18-2020, 03:57 PM
I was looking at this corona virus tracker website: https://ncov2019.live/

And one thing that popped out to me is that Germany's mortality rates are super low for how many cases they have. Almost 12,000 cases and only 28 deaths. The next one up is Spain with 14,000 cases and 624 deaths. It's just weird. I wonder what the story is with that. Seems like they must be doing something right. Do they just have way more ventilators or something?

Here in Germany most patients of the first 'wave' of infection were people coming back from skiing vacations in Northern Italy and Austria (Ischgl). Of course those weren't elderly people, but mostly younger and sportive people. Now that the second 'wave' of infection is here, the virus begins to spread domestically and affects all age groups. The death toll is slowly starting to rise.

That's my theory at least...

chuckrh
03-18-2020, 04:03 PM
the test was done by doctor in full gown out on the street with me sitting in my car. unpleasant test, too. results monday or tuesday.

sweeterthan
03-18-2020, 04:04 PM
That is awesome! Congrats! Weirdly enough, I was totally hoping this exact thing would happen to me.

Instead, I lost the job I was interviewing for because the hiring manager basically said "What's the point with all of this going on? Everything changes for us now." I also lost my current gig, which was systems programming and bartending in a restaurant that's closed now. Thanks to the tipped component, unemployment wages will be paltry, though thankfully they'll exist.

My wife probably lost her job for next semester (adjunct professor, as she completes doctoral dissertation odds and ends and defense; until that's done she can't secure a full-time position there) and, thanks to that limbo state she's in, we definitely lose our medical insurance in eight weeks, since that's when her candidacy funding runs out.

We were also supposed to finally move from the horrible town we've been stuck in for years (to that gig she was headed to work for), which may or may not happen on schedule or at all now. Leaving us with precisely 0 jobs and 0 healthcare in the next two months. The state insurance system that's left post-Trump, as I'm sure a lot of you know, is a fucking joke.

Both of my sisters are immunocompromised; my brother-in-law is a diabetic with a respiratory condition; her grandmother is 95 and has like half a lung left.

Ooh, also, after the last two weeks of working eight hours a day with young college students fresh off of winter vacations back home or with traveling businesspeople and tourists, my wife and I, respectively, are both newly sick. Which is rather alarming, though we don't have fevers, so we assume we're not coronified.

Sooo...doing my best not to lose my shit right now. I was already about as depressed as I've been in years, the primary cause being — wait for it — feeling like I had no agency in my own life.

Super thankful we don't have children or parents. Super thankful we've been able to save up some money the past few years. Super thankful we're introverts, so isolation isn't terrible. Things are absolutely not half as bad as they could be. It's actually going okay. But fuck, this is not a great time.

I couldn't sleep, so I scrolled through this thread to see how good ol' ETS was faring. I'm sorry to hear everyone's stories. @richardp (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=139), thanks for everything you do and I hope someone does something to fix what happened to your part-timers, what's happening to your Program attendees, and that your life destresses at least a little sometime soon. @Mantra (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=925), I feel ya and hope you're already on the mend. @chuckrh (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=6224), I hope the R.A. situation clears up and that someone maybe pulls a test from the next fucking asymptomatic celebrity that feels like "it's the safest thing to do" and sends it to you. @allegate (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1739), I have no idea who the blue fuck, in relation to you, the person in the Tweet was, but I hope to hell Mariott gets what it deserves and so (in a much better fashion) does the person who got the "Zero Hour Schedule." @Bachy (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=3010), When people started hoarding last Monday, I was like, "This is stupid. Why would that be your first priority?" Then I noticed we were down to one roll of TP. I went to the store the next day and they were out, so I was like, "This is stupid. Meh, they'll have more tomorrow." We got our first roll yesterday morning at 6:00. I hope you got yours! @ManBurning (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=33), I hope your boss gets his head out of his ass. That's goddamned horrible. I hope you get to get out of the office with your paycheck intact ASAP. And @sweeterthan (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=50), I think your fridge actually got fixed? At least I hope it did. I can't imagine a worse time for that shit to happen.

I hope everyone else stays healthy and that no one is doing anything stupidly risky, if not for themselves, for the rest of everyone. Fingers crossed we'll all get through this in decent economic, medical, and emotional shape.

My fridge is fixed yay! Now to try to find groceries to buy.
Sorry you are dealing with so much. I’m thinking of everyone’s whose jobs are affected.

As more cases appear, I know we are doing the right thing but it’s still really hard to comprehend how long this could go on.

Edit: glad to see people are being tested. I hope all of you stay well.

allegate
03-18-2020, 04:10 PM
the place I work for is having a meeting tomorrow that will not have a call-in number. if you want to hear the announcement, they are mandating you to come to the meeting room to hear it. the meeting room is not big enough to social distance everyone who is in the office. wtf are they thinking? first thought is "he's going to say something that he doesn't want recorded" since there's no phone lines.

theimage13
03-18-2020, 04:56 PM
the place I work for is having a meeting tomorrow that will not have a call-in number. if you want to hear the announcement, they are mandating you to come to the meeting room to hear it. the meeting room is not big enough to social distance everyone who is in the office. wtf are they thinking? first thought is "he's going to say something that he doesn't want recorded" since there's no phone lines.

Time to set your phone on record before you go into the meeting.

richardp
03-18-2020, 05:21 PM
Bit of good news today. My day program was FINALLY given the okay by the company to shut down. As of right now, we're closed until April 1, but I'm guessing that will get pushed back. Not entirely sure what finally made them change their minds but thank fuck they did. Moments before the phone call came in from the higher ups, we literally had to send one of our people home for potentially being sick. This dude is legit one of my favorites there too, and he has downs syndrome so I was already terrified of his immune system with this, and poor guy was sweating bullets this morning. I'm so fucking worried.

But that also means that its good timing for me to legit isolate myself for a while and hope the best. Not even remotely trying to think about not getting paid indefinitely, but this at least was a welcome weight lifted off my chest.

Really fucking hope none of us on here get it. I'm pulling for each and every one of you. I've been posting since '07 so this board feels like a family in a way. Just really really fucking hope everyone is safe and we all just ride this out unscathed passing times endlessly ranking albums in the music section. Let's all try to make a point to post more in Random Stupidity too, because lord knows we're going to need some random humor.

allegate
03-18-2020, 05:28 PM
Time to set your phone on record before you go into the meeting.
lol. I decided to not attend because a) I'm not an idiot and b) my boss told me what the meeting is about so eh. psst - it's about social distancing and working from home. *shakes head*

https://twitter.com/RyanHigginsRyan/status/1240401659777495040

Dryalex12
03-18-2020, 07:03 PM
God, what is going on with the political party on this day alone? shits crazy

Bachy
03-18-2020, 07:12 PM
I never wished a case of unrecoverable alcohol poisoning on anyone as much as I am now:

https://twitter.com/cbsnews/status/1240371160078000128

theimage13
03-18-2020, 07:40 PM
I never wished a case of unrecoverable alcohol poisoning on anyone as much as I am now:

https://twitter.com/cbsnews/status/1240371160078000128

If I was that little shit's grandma, I'd get his mom to call him and say "grandma's got it, she's in the hospital now...you need to get here ASAP". Teach his stupid bitch ass a lesson about empathy.

Sarah K
03-18-2020, 08:29 PM
Welp, the first person being held at Rikers has tested positive. This is about to turn into an absolute disaster there. Maybe someone can give it Weinstein before he gets transferred, though.

Edit - And Tuesday morning, the confirmed cases in NYC had passed 800. Tonight we are at 1,871.

ickyvicky
03-18-2020, 09:39 PM
Chase Bank is going to close 20% of its banks throughout the nation starting tomorrow (3/19) - call your local bank before going to make sure it's not closed.

chuckrh
03-18-2020, 09:51 PM
Chase Bank is going to close 20% of its banks throughout the nation starting tomorrow (3/19) - call your local bank before going to make sure it's not closed.

there will only be about 8000 branches open then

Erneuert
03-19-2020, 02:13 AM
Been reminded of this a lot lately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X29lF43mUlo (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X29lF43mUlo)

Besides, what do you think you have an immune system for? It’s for killing germs! But it needs practice... it needs germs to practice on. So listen! If you kill all the germs around you, and live a completely sterile life, then when germs do come along, you’re not gonna be prepared. And never mind ordinary germs, what are you gonna do when some super virus comes along that turns your vital organs into liquid shit? I’ll tell you what you’re gonna do... you’re gonna get sick, you’re gonna die, and you’re gonna deserve it cause you’re fucking weak and you got a fucking weak immune system!

Haysey_Draws
03-19-2020, 03:46 AM
A another day in London. Schools will close tomorrow, tube lines are being closed, people have been advised to work from home if they can...and my company STILL expects everyone in. It's full office...again. Only people that can work from home are those that have either been in contact with someone with the virus or are ill, everyone else has to be in even though we all can work from home...it's nuts!

...people are getting really angry, it makes it worse that both of the directors are now on annual leave...

Tom
03-19-2020, 03:58 AM
I'm expecting London lockdown tomorrow, so you might be able to stay in from then.

Haysey_Draws
03-19-2020, 04:09 AM
I'm expecting that too, but i have zero confidence in how our company will handle it. Moral here is now rock bottom. There are people in the office with s/o's who have been told they need to self isolate or are vulnerable persons and they are being put at risk by us having to come in...and our HR dept are basically saying in each case "we'll let you know in due course"...it worry's me they'll turn around at the lock down and say we're all on reduced wages or worse...

chuckrh
03-19-2020, 04:28 AM
I'm expecting that too, but i have zero confidence in how our company will handle it. Moral here is now rock bottom. There are people in the office with s/o's who have been told they need to self isolate or are vulnerable persons and they are being put at risk by us having to come in...and our HR dept are basically saying in each case "we'll let you know in due course"...it worry's me they'll turn around at the lock down and say we're all on reduced wages or worse...

I had to take an early disability retirement from a huge aerospace company in seattle last august. the doctors had wanted me to for 5 years but i kept going as long as i could. for once in my life, good timing on that one! I have a friend who still works there & everyone is very nervous about layoffs. in part due to unfortunate events a year ago the stock is in the dumpster & the current economic crisis things are bad. put a lot of it on upper management. they've been using cash reserves to buy back stock to keep the price up. not a sustainable model. now it appears they are looking to the government to bail them out. really glad i got out when i did.

Haysey_Draws
03-19-2020, 04:40 AM
I had to take an early disability retirement from a huge aerospace company in seattle last august. the doctors had wanted me to for 5 years but i kept going as long as i could. for once in my life, good timing on that one! I have a friend who still works there & everyone is very nervous about layoffs. in part due to unfortunate events a year ago the stock is in the dumpster & the current economic crisis things are bad. put a lot of it on upper management. they've been using cash reserves to buy back stock to keep the price up. not a sustainable model. now it appears they are looking to the government to bail them out. really glad i got out when i did.

I'm glad you got out when you did, and i hope your doing OK in this crisis?

With regard to my company, financially we should be OK. I'm solely in-charge of the invoices out and making sure things are paid, and we're in the best position we've ever been in the 9 years i've been here. Last year we started getting yearly bonuses things are going so well, and i know this financial year we've done even better and aged debt is non existent. Couple that with 2 of our major clients being supermarket chains who are currently making hand over fist we should be OK. We can continue to work at home as well, it will just be a bit annoying, but money will still be coming in (which is what i will be doing from home, making sure the money is coming in) which makes it all the more confusing as to why they are being so slow and quiet about getting us to work from home. As it stands only management have the OK to work remotely, the rest of us, while we can do it, need the OK before we can...and they just do not want to give it...and it's got EVERYONE in the office on edge!

chuckrh
03-19-2020, 05:20 AM
I'm glad you got out when you did, and i hope your doing OK in this crisis?

With regard to my company, financially we should be OK. I'm solely in-charge of the invoices out and making sure things are paid, and we're in the best position we've ever been in the 9 years i've been here. Last year we started getting yearly bonuses things are going so well, and i know this financial year we've done even better and aged debt is non existent. Couple that with 2 of our major clients being supermarket chains who are currently making hand over fist we should be OK. We can continue to work at home as well, it will just be a bit annoying, but money will still be coming in (which is what i will be doing from home, making sure the money is coming in) which makes it all the more confusing as to why they are being so slow and quiet about getting us to work from home. As it stands only management have the OK to work remotely, the rest of us, while we can do it, need the OK before we can...and they just do not want to give it...and it's got EVERYONE in the office on edge!

I'm hanging on. Earlier on this thread I posted about getting tested for the virus yesterday. I haven't been well for awhile but the situation with test kits in the states is still bad. I went pitbull on it & got the test finally. Results due back Monday or Tuesday. I've been doing the shelter in place for over 2 weeks & doctor told me to continue to do so until results are back. Sorry to all if I'm redundant. Middle of the night in Seattle & I can't sleep because of pain issues. Hoping to get a bit more sleep. I hope your company wakes up to the severity of this before a lot of people in your office get infected & they take the high road in regards to leaves & working from home. Now is not the time to place business over actual people!

Conan The Barbarian
03-19-2020, 05:33 AM
I'm hanging on. Earlier on this thread I posted about getting tested for the virus yesterday. I haven't been well for awhile but the situation with test kits in the states is still bad. I went pitbull on it & got the test finally. Results due back Monday or Tuesday. I've been doing the shelter in place for over 2 weeks & doctor told me to continue to do so until results are back. Sorry to all if I'm redundant. Middle of the night in Seattle & I can't sleep because of pain issues. Hoping to get a bit more sleep. I hope your company wakes up to the severity of this before a lot of people in your office get infected & they take the high road in regards to leaves & working from home. Now is not the time to place business over actual people!

When you say pitbull, did you mean you went out and yelled “ Dalé!” ?

Haysey_Draws
03-19-2020, 06:14 AM
I'm hanging on. Earlier on this thread I posted about getting tested for the virus yesterday. I haven't been well for awhile but the situation with test kits in the states is still bad. I went pitbull on it & got the test finally. Results due back Monday or Tuesday. I've been doing the shelter in place for over 2 weeks & doctor told me to continue to do so until results are back. Sorry to all if I'm redundant. Middle of the night in Seattle & I can't sleep because of pain issues. Hoping to get a bit more sleep. I hope your company wakes up to the severity of this before a lot of people in your office get infected & they take the high road in regards to leaves & working from home. Now is not the time to place business over actual people!


Holy shit i'm sorry :( my issues pale at what your going through. I hope the results come back negative just to give you a little pace of mind!

dlb
03-19-2020, 07:19 AM
There we go. My toilet paper is running low and I couldn't find any for two weeks now. This is interesting. Guess Kleenex will have to do...

And how crazy is that? Stereophonics played for 20.000 people in Manchester earlier this week? Jesus, Great Britain doesn't seem to really care.

Meanwhile our boss insists that we keep the agency going and he is "proud" of us how "well" we oppose Corona against all odds. Yeah, thanks for risking everybody's health and not letting us do home office like 90% of our clients, dude! Good job! Unbelievable... Yet I see a shocking number of people, and most of all elderly people, walking outside, gathering at public places and beergardens. People really do like their nice weather, despite sitting on their couches for the majority of their lives... once something is forbidden, it gets interesting, I guess.

"What? I have to stay inside? I planned on getting back to sports for many years and now would be the perfect time! Damn!"

Haysey_Draws
03-19-2020, 07:42 AM
Right think i have sussed out what the fuck is going on with my office...

Our company is a large group made up of a handful of smaller groups. Ours is security. Unlike the other groups we're our own limited company and separate from the group (we have our own bonuses for example as we make a better profit) but are still ruled by the group overall.

We, as in security, have the means to to almost completely work remotely. This is due to my old boss (who is now a group director) pushed for us to go paperless. Everything we do now is almost exclusively done on the network, and as such any shut down wouldn't stop us from largely being able to operate...but the group is a different story.

When my old boss moved up to director of the Group he tried to get them to go paperless and they flat out refused. We have a good retention of employees, and a lot of them do not like change. So when someone is trying to change how they have been running for 20 years they really threw their toys out. As a result the group, which includes stuff like payroll, CANNOT work from home. If the office shut up shop tomorrow they'd not be able to run...and we're being punished for their fucking stubbornness to change with the times! Despite all the hard work we've done we're going to get fucked over by a bunch of people too set in their ways to change with the times...and to make it worse we HAVE to listen to them as a group. We can't just say we're working from home, because the rest of the building will go "hold on why can they go home and we can't?!"

...for fucks sake!

chuckrh
03-19-2020, 08:57 AM
When you say pitbull, did you mean you went out and yelled “ Dalé!” ?

There used to be a maxim in the office: "don't f with the c"! 1 of my co workers dubbed me the warrior poet in honour of some emails i sent out whilst pissed off. innocuous on the surface & seemingly diplomatic. between the lines was an entirely different matter....

allegate
03-19-2020, 09:10 AM
I had to take an early disability retirement from a huge aerospace company in seattle last august. the doctors had wanted me to for 5 years but i kept going as long as i could. for once in my life, good timing on that one! I have a friend who still works there & everyone is very nervous about layoffs. in part due to unfortunate events a year ago the stock is in the dumpster & the current economic crisis things are bad. put a lot of it on upper management. they've been using cash reserves to buy back stock to keep the price up. not a sustainable model. now it appears they are looking to the government to bail them out. really glad i got out when i did.

https://media.giphy.com/media/BmmfETghGOPrW/giphy.gif

I can almost figure it out, I just need a few more clues!

;)

paul_is_dead
03-19-2020, 10:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfPk1HIBLfM

allegate
03-19-2020, 10:57 AM
https://twitter.com/alexwagner/status/1240616287602118656

allegate
03-19-2020, 11:15 AM
https://ourplagueyear.libsyn.com/

A new podcast from one half of Welcome to Night Vale. It's personal but there are stories from other people as well. Cory Doctorow is on the first episode and has a great quote:
It is not dystopian to imagine a crisis. It is dystopian to imagine that in its aftermath, we will all reveal ourselves to have been secret, barely constrained monsters who were only waiting for civilization to hit pause before we started eating each other.

eachpassingphase
03-19-2020, 12:19 PM
My state had its first death from COVID. Somebody in their 50's. I'm guessing they had other health issues already, because that seems YOUNG.

allegro
03-19-2020, 12:25 PM
My state had its first death from COVID. Somebody in their 50's. I'm guessing they had other health issues already, because that seems YOUNG.

Nope.

To those idiots on the beach, see below CDC report issued March 18, 2020:

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6912e2.htm?s_cid=mm6912e2_w



As of March 16, a total of 4,226 COVID-19 cases had been reported in the United States, with reports increasing to 500 or more cases per day beginning March 14 (Figure 1). Among 2,449 patients with known age, 6% were aged ≥85, 25% were aged 65–84 years, 18% each were aged 55–64 years and 45–54 years, and 29% were aged 20–44 years. Only 5% of cases occurred in persons aged 0–19 years.

Among 508 (12%) patients known to have been hospitalized, 9% were aged ≥85 years, 26% were aged 65–84 years, 17% were aged 55–64 years, 18% were 45–54 years, and 20% were aged 20–44 years. Less than 1% of hospitalizations were among persons aged ≤19 years (Figure 2). The percentage of persons hospitalized increased with age, from 2%–3% among persons aged ≤9 years, to ≥31% among adults aged ≥85 years.

Among 121 patients known to have been admitted to an ICU, 7% of cases were reported among adults ≥85 years, 46% among adults aged 65–84 years, 36% among adults aged 45–64 years, and 12% among adults aged 20–44 years. No ICU admissions were reported among persons aged ≤19 years. Percentages of ICU admissions were lowest among adults aged 20–44 years (2%–4%) and highest among adults aged 75–84 years (11%–31%).

Among 44 cases with known outcome, 15 (34%) deaths were reported among adults aged ≥85 years, 20 (46%) among adults aged 65–84 years, and nine (20%) among adults aged 20–64 years. Case-fatality percentages increased with increasing age, from no deaths reported among persons aged ≤19 years to highest percentages (10%–27%) among adults aged ≥85 years.

Jinsai
03-19-2020, 12:45 PM
I'm mostly concerned about my parents. They're not in a good position to handle this thing.

I wanna punch that Florida beach dickhead so bad.