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imail724
07-31-2019, 09:49 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Expe7hf6MU

Looks so good. I'm still slightly worried the de-aging stuff is going to be distracting if its too uncanny valley, but the trailer looks great and its crazy to see Pesci back.

Erneuert
07-31-2019, 10:45 AM
I read about this not long ago on Wikipedia. Can’t wait!

onthewall2983
07-31-2019, 12:37 PM
Harvey Keitel too.

There are some hints to the music in this article about Robbie Robertson's new album (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/robbie-robertson-new-album-interview-861278/?fbclid=IwAR3AK2AxM_MKmBDRFkqanlhvXxq41PFXIX7v3UR2 XP8SlJSbCM1-yoyRHF8), specifically of interest the song "I Heard You Paint Houses", which he recorded with Van Morrison.

sonic_discord
07-31-2019, 04:21 PM
I've been looking forward to this for a long time!

bobbie solo
07-31-2019, 11:47 PM
$150-$200 million budget. Scorsese going all in on this one.

simonn
09-09-2019, 04:03 AM
My most anticipated film of the year by a long way. Having said that I read the book about a year ago and found it a little dull, but I'm sure with this bunch of collaborators it'll get livened up somewhat!

GulDukat
09-10-2019, 07:23 PM
Not heard of this movie--wow. Fantastic cast. Looks terrific.

onthewall2983
09-16-2019, 04:38 PM
http://cdn.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/the-irishman-poster.jpg

imail724
09-26-2019, 10:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=fjrzu37-ljI

onthewall2983
09-26-2019, 11:55 AM
Had no idea Jesse Plemons was in this

onthewall2983
09-28-2019, 09:10 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4-Ko2KyPko

MrLobster
09-29-2019, 07:26 AM
While I'm not entirely sure the world needs another mafia / JFK / Hoffa movie, I am willing to give this a shot based on the actors involved.

neorev
09-29-2019, 10:59 PM
While I'm not entirely sure the world needs another mafia / JFK / Hoffa movie, I am willing to give this a shot based on the actors involved.

AND it's Martin Fucking Scorsese

onthewall2983
09-30-2019, 06:39 AM
While I'm not entirely sure the world needs another mafia / JFK / Hoffa movie, I am willing to give this a shot based on the actors involved.

In today's world I imagine this story has a lot more resonance than this comment suggests

onthewall2983
09-30-2019, 06:59 PM
Gullermo del Toro loves it (https://twitter.com/RealGDT/status/1178726048617222146) (even namedrops Trent)

onthewall2983
10-20-2019, 12:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SppMAglmEM

theruiner
10-20-2019, 04:33 PM
AND it's Martin Fucking Scorsese
This.

I'll see anything that man does but a new gangster movie from maybe the best director the genre has ever seen?? Yes, please.

onthewall2983
11-19-2019, 09:36 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS3aHkkfuEI

Deadpool
11-19-2019, 12:12 PM
Saw this yesterday at an Alamo Drafthouse.

The movie flies by unsurprisingly. Perhaps more importantly, it sticks the landing. I went to see it on my birthday, and it's a heavy movie to see on such an occasion given how unflinchingly it deals with mortality. Re-reading del Toro's tweets after seeing the film is extremely insightful and recommended.

Not sure how The Irishman will play in home-viewing situations (pro: can take breaks/intermissions, con: more likely to reach for smartphone), but I'm grateful for the theater experience – especially at Alamo. The grown-ass man to my immediate right kept taking pics of the screen (WTF?!!), and thankfully the staff noticed and kicked him out so I didn't even have to say anything.

theruiner
11-19-2019, 03:38 PM
Saw this yesterday at an Alamo Drafthouse.

I also saw it yesterday and also at an Alamo Drafthouse. oO Are we the same person?

So, I enjoyed it but I don't know how much. It was exactly what I expected it to be. I don't know. I'm still mulling it over.

I will say, the climactic portion of the movie is a masterclass in suspense. My stomach was in knots for a good, like, 20 minutes straight. Brilliantly done. Not surprising given Scorsese is maybe the greatest director alive.

bobbie solo
11-20-2019, 03:36 PM
i work near the IFC Center in Manhattan and if this thing wasn't 69 hours long I'd be there in a second to watch it. That's ok though, it's out on Netflix next week.

onthewall2983
11-21-2019, 01:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4QAA8Fwy1c

r_z
11-24-2019, 07:04 PM
Great movie!

GulDukat
11-24-2019, 08:52 PM
Wow--great fuckin' movie.

MrLobster
11-27-2019, 11:19 PM
No one else found the bobblehead CGI to be jarring?

I did enjoy it overall though, the story unfolded at a good pace.

neorev
11-27-2019, 11:44 PM
I was worried about the CG, but it honestly didn't bother me. They did a good job.

chuckrh
11-28-2019, 04:57 AM
fantastic film!

Swykk
11-28-2019, 08:38 AM
It’s a very good but very long movie that we’ve seen before and from the same director, no less.

Self.Destructive.Pattern
11-28-2019, 12:38 PM
What a slog of a movie. I seem to be in the minority of not being impressed by this. Been there, done that.. This genre feels so tired to me.

mfte
11-28-2019, 01:55 PM
That was awesome.
Didn't expect to see Action Bronson.

r_z
11-28-2019, 03:09 PM
Its a very good but very long movie that weve seen before and from the same director, no less.
That's not true. To me it feels like Scorsese is critiquing his past work and career on screen through the lens of this movie, expanding on previous ideas and themes and occasionally maybe even correcting himself.

For example, wheras in Goodfellas the gangster stuff comes across as flashy and "cool", here there's this whole other layer of regret ankered by the backstory about Sheeran's daughter(s).

That's also why the criticism of Anna Paquin's lack of lines from certain quarters just comes off as baffingly dumb. We don't get to know her better, because the father whose eyes we see her through didn't get to know her better. Because of his actions that we do get to see.

And that's literally the whole point of the movie.

Swykk
11-28-2019, 03:37 PM
Goodfellas did not make that lifestyle look cool at all. Live large for a little while until you either get killed, caught or die alone. It’s the same message. The only difference is drug addiction (Goodfellas) vs being a shitty father (Irishman).

GulDukat
11-28-2019, 07:19 PM
That's not true. To me it feels like Scorsese is critiquing his past work and career on screen through the lens of this movie, expanding on previous ideas and themes and occasionally maybe even correcting himself.

For example, wheras in Goodfellas the gangster stuff comes across as flashy and "cool", here there's this whole other layer of regret ankered by the backstory about Sheeran's daughter(s).

That's also why the criticism of Anna Paquin's lack of lines from certain quarters just comes off as baffingly dumb. We don't get to know her better, because the father whose eyes we see her through didn't get to know her better. Because of his actions that we do get to see.

And that's literally the whole point of the movie.Spot on point. Another scene maybe overlooked is when De Niro kills the German soldiers in cold blood. It desensitizes him to murder and shapes his life, enabling him to kill and kill again without any remorse.

onthewall2983
11-29-2019, 02:02 AM
That's also why the criticism of Anna Paquin's lack of lines from certain quarters just comes off as baffingly dumb. We don't get to know her better, because the father whose eyes we see her through didn't get to know her better. Because of his actions that we do get to see.

The one thing she says just stops the film in it's tracks and shows you enough of the mentality of children of violent men, that I found it utterly moving. All I can add is that she is at least "lucky" her father kept the violence out of the home.

Wretchedest
11-29-2019, 02:51 AM
Excising women from this movie as a way to illustrate their absence in the eyes of it's protagonist is dumb, especially coming from a director who hasn't exactly handled women in his films super well. They are so absent in this movie that when they actually have lines, it's jarring.

De Neiro's character goes through two marriages and has four daughters and we see so little of it. The movie doesn't get interesting until it's epilogue: that was interesting story to tell. One of consequences, of lonely geriatric mobsters. That's new. If they wanted to emphasize the damage that De Neiro did to his family and his relationships, than they should have actually shown that, instead of relegating it to a couple of scenes and subtext. To see his life through his daughters eyes! That's a much better concept than what we got.

Because what Scorsese did choose to put on screen really isn't that exciting and it certainly isn't fresh. It goes through the procedural notions of a gangster movie without either subverting the genre or really being any fun.

Substance242
11-29-2019, 04:24 AM
I am smiling on/at my silly idea what if Niro told to Pacino "that's for Heat, fucker" near the end. ;-)

But seriously, pretty long movie but I enjoyed and liked it all, even though sometimes the young faces were a bit "uncanny valley" to me.

Edit: By the way, it's interesting what has Netflix become, isn't it? Who would have thought a few years back. (ok this belongs to netflix thread probably)

elevenism
12-06-2019, 07:04 AM
Excising women from this movie as a way to illustrate their absence in the eyes of it's protagonist is dumb, especially coming from a director who hasn't exactly handled women in his films super well. They are so absent in this movie that when they actually have lines, it's jarring...


don't you think it was MEANT to be jarring, though? wasn't that the point?

katara
12-06-2019, 04:47 PM
Over the last few years, I watched my last remaining grandparent become increasingly frail. This summer, we put her in the ground.

Suffice it to say that the end of this movie was incredibly tough to watch.

Great film.

onthewall2983
12-07-2019, 09:53 AM
Robbie Robertson on his relationship with Scorsese, his own (blood) connections to organized crime, and the soundtrack (https://www.vulture.com/2019/11/the-irishman-soundtrack-robbie-robertson-interview.html)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFOmolhuSIQ


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leEGkxEA7Zo

A strange, and perhaps unintended coincidence, is Derek Trucks' presence on the latter track. His uncle was Butch Trucks, original drummer for the Allman Brothers Band. Derek is named after Derek and the Dominos, who of course performed "Layla", later featured in Goodfellas.