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CAMEO172
01-31-2019, 05:48 AM
Hi,

I decide today to present you this new site. it's under HUGE construction and I do think the first real complete version will be in at least 4 months. This is for the moment a one month work, about 5hour a day.
So this is probably too soon but I want some feedbacks and why not some help ;)

This is a site only about NIN live, including poster/ticket/photos/setlist/records/press article. I did the same site, 20 years ago, about the Cure and I want this kind of site for NIN.

of course, you can think everything is already online here and there. It's nearly true. But I make it in a different way and with some datas never seen online. You can also think I'm an awful thief of other one work. My online original NIN source for scan is nin-historian and gladgarrot and a very few times RITC. I gonna thanks each time scan is coming from them.

All records information is coming from RITC. I contacted Rjan a few months ago about. having all datas in database let me show the informations i want, like all soundboard records, all records from a particular taper and probably soon a list of the "perfect" records, between 4.5 and 5 stars !
I gonna give him new information as I have discover some european taper from my old cure taper area. I know a paris 94 D7 master for example. i won't be able to have a copy but I'm sure he recorded it.

From 1988 to 1995, ALL dates are nearly sure. I don't make a copy of copy of copy of an original list. I check with all informations available here and there and once it's sure (or at least have some information), it's online.
All setlist is sure from a record, audio or video. I don't want to copy a "probably right" setlist. I saw so many mistakes of setlist with encores and press article explain there wasn't ! I prefer nothing that something maybe wrong. Having setlist of a cancel show is also the kind of thing I don't want.

This way I have found a LOT of mistakes or wrong informations. And I'm still looking for new datas, new press scans ! For example, at this time, I can't access to Dallas newspaper and I can't have access to Hollywood reporter !
The list of mistake is long, the press article helps to understand some reports, some cancellations and the real date of some shows !
For example Omaha 1995-02-13 isn't a surprise show. This is just a report and a change of venue after the Lincoln cancellation !

Press scans is also a perfect way to have rare informations like band injury on scene ! Quite funny. For example, we have an explanation why March of the Pigs wasn't played ot Warfield April 23 1994 : Chris received a micro stand from Trent and the band had to stop after Sin in order to put a bandage on his head !
This way we can be sure the record is from the right date !

Nowaday, I'm compiling all dates. I have to add 1999 to 2014 dates. I think this is a week by year. Newspaper will be only for review as the dates are all sure so I will have less work now. I will find poster, ticket, records after or when I'm tired of adding songs.
I also have a lot of live pictures to add. I just want to add professional work.
and after all is done, I will work on dialogs between songs or funny think visible on video.

I also miss some old setlists for various reasons. I'm trying for example to find an other review of worchester Janary 05 1995 : the record is incomplet and even if review can help, nothing is clear about Dead Soul. The reviewer even speak about "Atrocity Exhibition" during encore, a song never played by NIN. I even wonder if the taper keep this song for himself. Hurt is clear, a review deals about : this is probably a tape flip and the taper remove the song. Something I can never have wasn't play if this is true there were 5 songs as encore : a pity the reviewer leave the event before the end, in order to have his paper for the next day morning.
So you see, this is not really dump operation and I prefer losing my time that giving wrong informations.


Here is the link of this site : https://happinessinheresy.com
Please, don't forget everything is in strong construction. PHP files are changed nearly every day

Comments are open for every date. I hope we can talk about.

Fans sections isn't online. I want something easy and nice so each fan can add their dates and a few lines about this particular experience. At this time, I don't know how to make good php for this. On my old the cure site, it was too simple and not sure enough.

Arnaud

P.S : I'm french so don't blame me for my english ! ;)

WorzelG
01-31-2019, 11:32 AM
Hi,

I decide today to present you this new site. it's under HUGE construction and I do think the first real complete version will be in at least 4 months. This is for the moment a one month work, about 5hour a day.
So this is probably too soon but I want some feedbacks and why not some help ;)

This is a site only about NIN live, including poster/ticket/photos/setlist/records/press article. I did the same site, 20 years ago, about the Cure and I want this kind of site for NIN.

of course, you can think everything is already online here and there. It's nearly true. But I make it in a different way and with some datas never seen online. You can also think I'm an awful thief of other one work. My online original NIN source for scan is nin-historian and gladgarrot and a very few times RITC. I gonna thanks each time scan is coming from them.

All records information is coming from RITC. I contacted Rjan a few months ago about. having all datas in database let me show the informations i want, like all soundboard records, all records from a particular taper and probably soon a list of the "perfect" records, between 4.5 and 5 stars !
I gonna give him new information as I have discover some european taper from my old cure taper area. I know a paris 94 D7 master for example. i won't be able to have a copy but I'm sure he recorded it.

From 1988 to 1995, ALL dates are nearly sure. I don't make a copy of copy of copy of an original list. I check with all informations available here and there and once it's sure (or at least have some information), it's online.
All setlist is sure from a record, audio or video. I don't want to copy a "probably right" setlist. I saw so many mistakes of setlist with encores and press article explain there wasn't ! I prefer nothing that something maybe wrong. Having setlist of a cancel show is also the kind of thing I don't want.

This way I have found a LOT of mistakes or wrong informations. And I'm still looking for new datas, new press scans ! For example, at this time, I can't access to Dallas newspaper and I can't have access to Hollywood reporter !
The list of mistake is long, the press article helps to understand some reports, some cancellations and the real date of some shows !
For example Omaha 1995-02-13 isn't a surprise show. This is just a report and a change of venue after the Lincoln cancellation !

Press scans is also a perfect way to have rare informations like band injury on scene ! Quite funny. For example, we have an explanation why March of the Pigs wasn't played ot Warfield April 23 1994 : Chris received a micro stand from Trent and the band had to stop after Sin in order to put a bandage on his head !
This way we can be sure the record is from the right date !

Nowaday, I'm compiling all dates. I have to add 1999 to 2014 dates. I think this is a week by year. Newspaper will be only for review as the dates are all sure so I will have less work now. I will find poster, ticket, records after or when I'm tired of adding songs.
I also have a lot of live pictures to add. I just want to add professional work.
and after all is done, I will work on dialogs between songs or funny think visible on video.

I also miss some old setlists for various reasons. I'm trying for example to find an other review of worchester Janary 05 1995 : the record is incomplet and even if review can help, nothing is clear about Dead Soul. The reviewer even speak about "Atrocity Exhibition" during encore, a song never played by NIN. I even wonder if the taper keep this song for himself. Hurt is clear, a review deals about : this is probably a tape flip and the taper remove the song. Something I can never have wasn't play if this is true there were 5 songs as encore : a pity the reviewer leave the event before the end, in order to have his paper for the next day morning.
So you see, this is not really dump operation and I prefer losing my time that giving wrong informations.


Here is the link of this site : https://happinessinheresy.com
Please, don't forget everything is in strong construction. PHP files are changed nearly every day

Comments are open for every date. I hope we can talk about.

Fans sections isn't online. I want something easy and nice so each fan can add their dates and a few lines about this particular experience. At this time, I don't know how to make good php for this. On my old the cure site, it was too simple and not sure enough.

Arnaud

P.S : I'm french so don't blame me for my english ! ;)
this looks good, I particularly like that you’ve put YouTube videos /clips you’ve found for shows like Meltdown in London that aren’t necessarily the full thing. Thank you

TheBang
02-01-2019, 09:18 AM
Wow. I'm just looking over the early stuff, and the amount of research you've put into this is amazing.

The NIN Historian stuff, while a valuable source of information, had a lot of errors for the early years, simply because it was so hard to verify information back then. And a lot of those errors propagated into nintourhistory, setlist.fm, and NIN Wiki.

I've seen some surprises, like the 9:30 Club date on April 15, 1990. I do want to mention for those 1990 dates though, those were not their first headline shows. The 1989 promotional tour for the album launch were their first headlining dates.

Here is a review that you don't have: http://angrykev.tumblr.com/post/121771381396/catzrgray-concert-review-in-b-side-magazine
There may be more here (http://angrykev.tumblr.com/archive), tour posters, etc., but I haven't gone through the whole blog.

Here's another one for Skinny Puppy: https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/42726917/



I also miss some old setlists for various reasons. I'm trying for example to find an other review of worchester Janary 05 1995 : the record is incomplet and even if review can help, nothing is clear about Dead Soul. The reviewer even speak about "Atrocity Exhibition" during encore, a song never played by NIN. I even wonder if the taper keep this song for himself. Hurt is clear, a review deals about : this is probably a tape flip and the taper remove the song. Something I can never have wasn't play if this is true there were 5 songs as encore : a pity the reviewer leave the event before the end, in order to have his paper for the next day morning.
Oh, I can help you with that one. I was at that show. The setlist here is correct:

http://www.nin.wiki/1995/01/05_Worcester,_MA

fillow
02-01-2019, 09:33 AM
I suggest adding TR stage banter for every show with a recording later on. For early tours (PHM through TDS eras) gladcarrot already did a ton of transcriptions back in the day that can be used as a starting point.

klyrish
02-01-2019, 10:59 AM
This is pretty cool and really similar to something I built about 10 years ago that never really took off and became a nightmare to manage as well as another project I've been building the last couple of months. It'll be interesting to compare once I've got mine to a point it's ready to be launched.

Great work!

CAMEO172
02-02-2019, 07:00 PM
Hi,
Sorry for my silence : I didn't received emails warning (just one 3 days ago..)
I was afraid everyone doesn't care this site !


Thebang : I'm happy you love my work. You are one I used to read here and there !! and I know you love NIN history !

Yes it was quite hard to check every newspapers! As now the part 88 -> 95 is nearly clear (for the newspapers I can access to) and as after 99 we don't really need it for anything else than review, the hard horrible work is behind me.



Thanks a lot for the link for Skinny ! I will add these tomorrow, and check the blog for any other good info ! I found some skinny dates but can't confirm NIN was with them so I prefer adding nothing (i keep the press extracts on my computer)
The same for Peter Murphy and Mary Chain : i'm sure of 2 or 3 others dates for them but the opener wasn't cited !


for 1989 shows, as it seems to be mostly promo shows, can we say they really "headlined" ? for me it's really in 1990 that NIN begun to build their own public. but it's a detail :)

For Worcester,_MA (http://www.nin.wiki/1995/01/05_Worcester,_MA), it's funny cause I just found the right setlist after 5 hours reading on the old alt.nin newsgroups ! I also found some tapers names and some setlist confirmations !

I still hope HIH can be a good site for NIN community and that some people will love trying to check some old dates with proofs ;)

for trent talks, after reading a newgroup post in the beginning of 1995, i discover atlanta January 24 1995 had a lof of fun on Closer !!!

A question : Fragility v1.0 is named by fans not NIN ? I'm sure of Fragility v2.0 but I found nothing speaking about v1 name ?

sorry if my message is messy.. It's too late (and I work in 4 hours ).

CAMEO172
02-04-2019, 04:29 AM
This is pretty cool and really similar to something I built about 10 years ago that never really took off and became a nightmare to manage as well as another project I've been building the last couple of months. It'll be interesting to compare once I've got mine to a point it's ready to be launched.

Great work!

Hi klyrish,
if possible, we can mix our efforts !

FULLMETAL
02-10-2019, 06:33 AM
A question : Fragility v1.0 is named by fans not NIN ? I'm sure of Fragility v2.0 but I found nothing speaking about v1 name ?

I want to remember the v1.0 tag was referenced on NIN.com as part of the tour location images. If that wasn’t the case, then the NIN produced MTV special would be the primary reference point for that tour name.


https://youtu.be/fkGIL_IRz2c

botley
02-10-2019, 06:41 AM
Yes, it was just "Fragility" in 1999, and then after the North American leg was announced they started calling the earlier dates "Fragility 1.0" on the website, I believe. The North American leg was always called "Fragility 2.0" in all press and promo material.

TheBang
02-10-2019, 05:49 PM
It seems like the TV special was the first reference point for the Fragility 1.0 name. It aired on Dec. 21, 1999, after the European dates, but before the Japan/Aus dates.

You can see the "Fragility 1.0" name referenced in the Hotline news archives:
http://www.theninhotline.net/news/archives/1999.12.html
http://www.theninhotline.net/news/archives/2000.02.html

Prior to the TV special, it was just called the Fragility tour.

So, it was named somewhat retroactively, but it's definitely official.

botley
02-10-2019, 06:29 PM
http://www.theninhotline.net/news/archives/2000.02.html


Hmm, thanks for linking this one. "Trent was going to take a short break before the US tour to remix some songs off of Bowie's new album" goes the MTV headline. Not surprised that didn't come to fruition, but wouldn't a NIN remix of "Something in the Air" be super-groovy?

CAMEO172
02-11-2019, 11:22 AM
What about this name for the 1999 European Leg ?

https://happinessinheresy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/fragility-europe-back-300x218.jpg

TheBang
07-24-2019, 01:27 AM
Here's a great post from ninlive confirming the Dec. 29, 1989 date in Cleveland:

https://www.facebook.com/ninlivearchive/photos/a.1107683455976413/2290078581070222/?type=3&permPage=1

Now, given that it lists Dec. 29, and not Dec. 28, I'm a bit skeptical of the 2-night run listed on a lot of sites. Nothing in the newspaper clippings indicates 2 nights. The date of that newspaper is Dec. 28, so it would have been extremely last minute if they'd "added a 2nd show due to demand".

This interview (https://www.clevescene.com/cleveland/getting-physical/Content?oid=1492360) with NIN's tour manager lists the date as Dec. 28. But it may have been faulty memory from the manager or bad research from the writer. In any case, the manager's recollections make it sound like it was just one night, not 2 nights.

The origination of 2 dates comes from NIN Historian (http://www.theninhotline.net/nin_historian/tour_dates.html), and are based only on recollections. On NIN Tour History, no one has indicated that they attended Dec. 28. One person has said they attended Dec. 29. On setlist.fm, there is one person (HorrorShow) who is a troll, marking that he has attended nearly every show ever, so he is discounted. So, there is one person who said they attended Dec. 29. And one person who says they attended Dec. 28. For that person, they have both Dec. 28, 1989, and Dec. 28, 1990 (Hate Tour) marked as attended, so perhaps they only attended one date but marked both out of confusion because they weren't sure what year it was. And maybe the Dec. 28, 1990 show is the source of the Dec. 28, 1989 (if we assume this date didn't happen) confusion, with a faulty recollection about the year leading to a NIN Historian entry for that date also.

I'm mostly convinced that there was only one show on Dec. 29. The thing that would really solidify it for me would be a first-hand recollection about whether there was a set of two shows or just one.

CAMEO172
08-26-2019, 06:16 AM
Hi,
This is now completely sure there is only one night on Dec 29 ! I just found 2 news newspaper clippings. One is clear that this is the FIRST date in cleveland. Nemesis is the opening band. it was a $7 concert.. a dream !
Scans will be online in the afternoon.

I'm pretty sure the Dec 28 date is the 1990-12-28 !!

TheBang
08-26-2019, 08:52 PM
Scans will be online in the afternoon.
Nice, thanks for the scans.

Can you see if you can find anything for Luv-a-Fair club in Vancouver? I found several recollections, but not the exact date. One person said the week before PHM release, so that would have been about mid-Oct. 1989, I think:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.music.nin/LJgnMG-46MI/eNGzGe5gQ8IJ
http://www.vancouverneon.com/page_q/luv_a_fair.htm
https://nsmb.com/forum/forum/nbr-not-biking-related-9/topic/best-concert-you-have-seen-58657/?page=9

CAMEO172
08-27-2019, 07:35 AM
I just even found a REVIEW of this Fantasy 1989 show !!!!

According to this review Nick Rushes is already behind the keyboards !

TheBang
08-28-2019, 05:35 PM
I just even found a REVIEW of this Fantasy 1989 show !!!!

According to this review Nick Rushes is already behind the keyboards !
Yeah, I mentioned in another thread, I think, that from an interview it sounds like Rusche was hired in Nov. 1989. And in another interview, it says that David Haymes was playing at the San Fran. Warfield show (JAMC support). So, basically, I think this Phantasy show was Rushe's last show, and Haymes did both the JAMC and Peter Murphy tours.

TheBang
08-28-2019, 05:44 PM
On this old site (http://www.angelfire.com/music2/petermurphy/gigmain.html), I found a note that said "Manifesto" was the opening act for Peter Murphy on April 14, 1990, at Lisner Auditorium in Wash DC.

Armed with that, I was amazingly able to find this George Wash Univ yearbook (http://www2.gwu.edu/~alumni/yearbooks/CHERRY_TREE_1990_ST.pdf) which confirms on page 86 that local band "Manifesto" opened for Peter Murphy on April 14.

That all jibes with the fact that NIN had their own headlining show at 9:30 Club in Washington DC the next night on April 15. Looking at a map, Lisner Auditorium and 9:30 Club were only 1.3 miles apart, so it wouldn't have made sense that they were opening one night, and headlining just down the street the next night.

TheBang
08-28-2019, 05:59 PM
You've got a lot of articles for this one already, but here's another article from an arts newspaper called "The NicePaper" soliciting for JAMC and NIN at the Living Room in Providence, RI:

http://www.ricdigitalcommons.com/AS220/items/show/3522

TheBang
08-28-2019, 06:06 PM
What is it with yearbooks today? Another confirmation of Peter Murphy performing at Rhode Island College with pictures on pages 28-29:

https://issuu.com/digitalinitiatives/docs/1990yb_red

But no indication of which building the concert took place in, which I've been trying to find. Edit: Looking at pages 24-25, Donovan Center looks like the likely venue for the concert.

CAMEO172
08-29-2019, 12:59 AM
Great job !!!!

I will add all these clippings
you have found some medias I never even try to dig ! that's great !

At this time I try to access to Washington Post, New York Times and Hollywood reporter archives. Even with paid account, I just can't find anything way.

CAMEO172
08-29-2019, 01:03 AM
On this old site (http://www.angelfire.com/music2/petermurphy/gigmain.html), I found a note that said "Manifesto" was the opening act for Peter Murphy on April 14, 1990, at Lisner Auditorium in Wash DC.

Armed with that, I was amazingly able to find this George Wash Univ yearbook (http://www2.gwu.edu/~alumni/yearbooks/CHERRY_TREE_1990_ST.pdf) which confirms on page 86 that local band "Manifesto" opened for Peter Murphy on April 14.

That all jibes with the fact that NIN had their own headlining show at 9:30 Club in Washington DC the next night on April 15. Looking at a map, Lisner Auditorium and 9:30 Club were only 1.3 miles apart, so it wouldn't have made sense that they were opening one night, and headlining just down the street the next night.

if it's not in the list that must be because I have found the same info some month ago. I will add the date as wrong, and add all info I can dig. I must got some articles for sure.

TheBang
08-29-2019, 06:16 AM
Another wrong date cleared up:

NIN Historian (https://www.theninhotline.com/nin_historian/tour_dates.html) is the source for

7/1/90 Power Station - Melbourne, FL
7/2/90 The Asylum - Melbourne, FL

But, it turns out that Power Station and The Asylum are the same venue. Power Station was the name from 1989-Sept. 1992, and it was The Asylum from Sep. 1992-1994. On NIN Historian, the source for The Asylum date is a personal account (asterisk symbol). So, at some point, someone must have told NIN Historian, I went to this concert, but gave him the wrong venue name of The Asylum. He didn't know they were the same venue, so he added it as a new date at a new venue. The newspaper solicit (https://happinessinheresy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/The_Orlando_Sentinel_Fri__Jun_1__1990_.png) is for only one date, July 1 at Power Station, so July 2 must be spurious.

TheBang
08-29-2019, 07:09 AM
A couple proofs for a few dates you don't have listed yet:

Handbill for 1991-01-04 Gothic - Denver. Note: Due to demand, there are 2 shows that night, 7:30 PM and 10:30 PM.
http://nintourhistory.com/concert.php?concertid=138

1991-01-13 Reitz Union Rion Ballroom at University of Florida:
Page 9 of "Applause" Gainesville's Entertaining Magazine:
(https://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00028290/05361/17j)https://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00028290/05361/17x

1991-01-25 Rock Academy
Ticket Stub:
http://nintourhistory.com/concert.php?concertid=154
Also, one of your articles on 1/24 is actually for 1/25. "The Record" promo from the 1/25 paper.

1991-07-13 Vatican - Houston
Images 18 and 19 and 23 confirm the date and venue:
http://www.rivetheadmagazine.com/-32-jul-91.html

CAMEO172
08-29-2019, 10:06 AM
Another wrong date cleared up:

NIN Historian (https://www.theninhotline.com/nin_historian/tour_dates.html) is the source for

7/1/90 Power Station - Melbourne, FL
7/2/90 The Asylum - Melbourne, FL

But, it turns out that Power Station and The Asylum are the same venue. Power Station was the name from 1989-Sept. 1992, and it was The Asylum from Sep. 1992-1994. On NIN Historian, the source for The Asylum date is a personal account (asterisk symbol). So, at some point, someone must have told NIN Historian, I went to this concert, but gave him the wrong venue name of The Asylum. He didn't know they were the same venue, so he added it as a new date at a new venue. The newspaper solicit (https://happinessinheresy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/The_Orlando_Sentinel_Fri__Jun_1__1990_.png) is for only one date, July 1 at Power Station, so July 2 must be spurious.

I really try to find this Asylum confirmation and didn't understand why florida press NEVER talked about ! it's clearer. I will add the date as wrong and adding your information as proof. This way we will stop having the question.

CAMEO172
08-29-2019, 10:10 AM
It's a pleasure not beeing alone to find such "historical" informations. Really happy we are at least two !

I will add all your information tonight (in 5 hours).

I have done a complete list of live press articles. Easy to check and see :
https://happinessinheresy.com/nin-live-press/

As I work directly inside the database for adding press data, there is no warning of any press update (only if the live date is new inside the database).

TheBang
08-30-2019, 08:24 AM
A solicit for New Music Nights at Rock Academy, July 16, 1990:
https://americanradiohistory.com/Archive-Billboard/90s/1990/BB-1990-07-21.pdf


And another solicit for Rock Academy, and City Gardens a few days before:
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/145823663/

CAMEO172
08-30-2019, 10:38 AM
A solicit for New Music Nights at Rock Academy, July 16, 1990:
https://americanradiohistory.com/Archive-Billboard/90s/1990/BB-1990-07-21.pdf


And another solicit for Rock Academy, and City Gardens a few days before:
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/145823663/


both added, from two sites I have hugely scanned : you rule !

I just added various little scans here and there . nothing phenomenal except some Australia 1994 gigs (even if I can't affirm they are all cancelled, still looking for this information).

TheBang
08-30-2019, 06:30 PM
nothing phenomenal except some Australia 1994 gigs (even if I can't affirm they are all cancelled, still looking for this information).
Definitely all cancelled, with less than a week's notice. They gave the excuse that Vrenna was herniated:

https://groups.google.com/d/topic/alt.music.nin/_1fPaEWWJII/discussion
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.music.nin/AsWsGBrtaA0/a3OcRXrFKWoJ
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.music.nin/uxbwiHgfIKM/_qSXDLZwS6cJ
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.music.nin/5-O0EWh-9Xs/YhsFaT-NPa4J

But Trent revealed in an interview that the real reason was because he wanted more studio time:

https://www.theninhotline.com/archives/articles/manager/display_article.php?id=600

TheBang
09-01-2019, 12:39 AM
Short review confirming Sunday, Nov. 12, 1995 for The Edge, Orlando:

https://stars.library.ucf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2336&context=centralfloridafuture

CAMEO172
09-01-2019, 12:19 PM
Short review confirming Sunday, Nov. 12, 1995 for The Edge, Orlando:

https://stars.library.ucf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2336&context=centralfloridafuture

Great scan ! Thanks my "partner".

I added some 1994 reviews todays. Still have some to add later.

ninlive
09-02-2019, 11:48 AM
Thanks for all the info y'all!

CAMEO172
10-16-2019, 06:31 AM
Hi dear community,

i'm more than proud to announce that a first (but not last) big step had been done on the website.

I have added nearly all sure setlist of all years.
I decided to trust setlist after 2000 even without records. I refused to add older setlist without a record or a valid proof.

I have probably some date still missing but this is nearly ok.

Having the database full, I can now have fun with datas.

For example :
https://happinessinheresy.com/complete-view-of-live-songs-by-year/
complete list of songs played live. Click on a song and you will have shows details with lenght and maybe some comment about this song and this particular show

I have the same for songs by regular albums :
https://happinessinheresy.com/nin-albums-by-years/


As nearly all the dates are in the database, you can also have, for example, the list of all shows in Ohio, all shows in Philadelphia, or even all shows in Madison square garden venue. In fact, you can have a list by country / state / city / venue. I'm also working on venue branding so you will still have the list even if the branding change

You can also have all shows by all NIN members / guests.

here are the next big steps (any help more than welcome) :

1) adding newspaper clips. Already a little less than 900 clips but I have a LOT to add !
2) adding ticket / poster : huge work
3) adding records. At the end you will be able to list all IEM / audience / soundboard records, or NIN crew record or Ryan J. also able to list all 5 stars records. record at ounce ! I even wonder If I make DAT / MD / tape difference but it would be probably too much.
4) adding comments about songs that have something to say
5) adding Trent speeches : even a "thank you" is something to add !
6) Adding the possibility to fans to adding their name and even a comment about this live experience
7) and more and more

elevenism
10-22-2019, 04:12 PM
awesome work.

One tiny little thing regarding the dallas shows in 94 and 95: that venue is called Fair Park Coliseum, as opposed to State Fair Coliseum

CAMEO172
10-22-2019, 05:04 PM
awesome work.

One tiny little thing regarding the dallas shows in 94 and 95: that venue is called Fair Park Coliseum, as opposed to State Fair Coliseum
thanks a lot having for having find this mistake ! I have changed the name

CAMEO172
10-23-2019, 05:20 AM
More than 1k press articles right now.
It's now not easy for me to find new articles between 1989 and 1995..
I still have a lot to add for more recent years. Probably a 1 month work

A new page emerged :
https://happinessinheresy.com/press-articles-by-newspapers/
you can see by newspapers name, the article written about live concert dates. It's quite easier to check if an article is already inside or not if you know the newspapers and the release date

And you still have :
https://happinessinheresy.com/nin-live-press/
which included all press article regarding to all dates



I do hope having new scans from everyone :)

spahn
10-23-2019, 03:31 PM
Great work. Love reading the review from my first concert, back in 1994. Apparently, the writer, was not a fan. LOL https://happinessinheresy.com/nine-inch-nails-concert/miami-november-20-1994/

TheBang
10-26-2019, 09:44 PM
Here is a poster for JAMC on Jan. 27 and 28, 1990 in Seattle and Portland:

https://concertposterart.com/products/telephone-pole-posters-jeseus-and-mary-nine-inch-nails-concert-poster

The image of the poster is not very big, so I asked the seller if it said NIN anywhere on it, and he confirmed that it did not. Not definitive proof one way or the other, but at least it doesn't show that NIN were solicited on the poster for those shows.

Also, I found a newspaper mention of the April 5, 1990 concert at the end of an album review:

https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/collection/uwmpost/id/24886

Also, if you search through the UWM Post archives, it looks like there are a lot of NIN articles, several of which probably pertain to concerts (I did not go through any of them):

https://collections.lib.uwm.edu/digital/search/searchterm/nine%20inch%20nails

CAMEO172
12-05-2019, 05:02 AM
One month since the last update info here.

A really lot of news. here we go.

The structure of the site is now clear. For each show :

0) venues/cities are probably ok. I also add venue picture when there is a NIN sign/date. festival name is also included. I'm also checking if the show is sold out or not (only according to press article for the moment). I have also manage leg's name of each part.
1) Songs played if known including time lenghts. songs and time lenght is finished. After a huge work for songs comments and trent speech between songs
2) Song stats for fun. this part is finished
3) Line up including guests. this part is finished
4) All show or tour posters including variants. this part is finished or nearly. need scans for new posters
5) Show ticket. I have added some.. not my priority at this time
6) Video records. I have prepared my php sheet for quick adding, just have to add them now. This is a 2/3 months work
7) Audio records. I have prepared my php sheet for quick adding, just have to add them now. This is a 2/3 months work
8) Goodies. mainly show or tour T-shirt. 10% done. This is a 2 weeks work I think. I add one or two goodies each day
9) Press articles. A did a HUGE part from my major sources. More than 1500 articles including great reviews now in the database. every day I want to still add some articles. I still have some sources to check.
10) Setlist papers and other kind of live papers. This is a 2 weeks work. I add one or two each day
11) Live pictures of the show. I'm working on this now mainly with pro photo after 2005 or good picture before 2005. This is at least a 3 months work.
12) Fans at the show. I don't prepare the code for this part. I need a strong registration part for security reason against spam. The idea here is having human interactions, not only a list of name. This is a 3 days development and I will probably need one or two beta test people.

A lot of change in pages here and there. Still have a lot of esthetic work.
You can have the shows list for each kind of element. I still have to add each list of show without element.

One of my only question is decided if I add opening/headliner bands info. I will probably later, this is not my priority.

I have also a little work about dates without infos : i have to adding them as unsure. There are probably 20/30 dates to add, mainly between 1989 and 1994. I will do this one night in a few weeks.

TheBang
12-05-2019, 08:28 AM
Nice, I noticed some of the new sorting and search options when I was on the site last week. That's a lot of work!

BTW, the source for this cancellation:

https://happinessinheresy.com/nine-inch-nails-concert/koln-august-29-1991/

is that the event promoter actually reached out to ninlive to provide him some ticket stubs and also let him know that that one date was cancelled due to Trent's voice.