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buzburbank
12-16-2018, 11:57 PM
So you got lucky this tour and caught some rare live NIN performances. Here's your chance to see just how lucky you are. In order to play (and even win) you do not need to be an old fan, or have seen the most shows. In fact, the highest scores may come from a combination of only a few shows in the last couple of months, especially with the newest NIN material. Your score has nothing to do with being a "better fan" or a more "hardcore" fan; luck and geography (and a little bit of math) are literally all it takes.

HOW TO PLAY: Go to Setlist.fm => Nine Inch Nails => Artist Statistics => Tour Statistics => Songs played total (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html). I'm not suggesting that Setlist.fm is perfect, but we need a baseline and we'll just have to disregard discrepancies in order to make this work smoothly.

RULES/SCORING: As of tonight, there are 167 individual songs listed; the seven rarest -- only played once -- are each ranked 160th. If you saw any of these songs live, give yourself 160 points for each show you were at. The thirteen next rarest songs -- only played twice -- are each ranked 147th. If you saw any of these songs live, give yourself 147 points for each show you were at. And so on. (If you saw multiple shows with the same, rare track, count each of them separately.)

If you're unfamiliar with Setlist.fm, in order to see the show(s) where these songs were played, all you have to do is click on the song title. Start at the bottom, and scroll up until you find the first 10 songs that you witnessed. A perfect score (i.e., if you are Trent Reznor) would be (7 x 160) + (3 x 147), or 1561.

Total up your points for the TEN RAREST SONGS you experienced, and post your results here.

For example, I scored 1349 points. I got lucky by attending both Aragon shows in '09 and all three this year. I also hit the Tension opener in St Paul, and happened into a random LITS show with a rare Ghosts track. Here is my scoring:



1

147 pts

32 Ghosts IV

Mid-America Center, Council Bluffs IA



2

147

A Strange Kind of Love*

Aragon Ballroom '09



3

147

Kick in the Eye*

Aragon Ballroom '09



4

140

Atmosphere*

Aragon Ballroom '09



5

134

Subterraneans*

Aragon Ballroom '18



6

134

AATCHB

Aragon Ballroom '18



7

131

I Would for You

XCel Energy Center



8

124

Final Solution*

Aragon Ballroom '09



9

124

Banged and Blown Through*

Aragon Ballroom '09



10

121

LITS

Aragon Ballroom '09




One variation to level the playing field a bit would be to exclude covers(*), in which case scores would obviously tend to be a lot lower (mine dropped to 1186):



5

111

17 Ghosts II

Mid-America Center



6

111

17 Ghosts II

Target Center



7

111

Satellite

XCel Energy Center



8

109

Over and Out

Aragon '18



9

107

This Isn't the Place

Aragon '18



10

104

The Perfect Drug

Aragon '18




I would love for people to give it a go, and I hope to see what kind of numbers we can get!

botley
12-17-2018, 07:45 AM
Just the ten most-rare songs I've seen, right? In that case I scored 1240:

1 x 127 for "6 Ghosts I" in Toronto, 2008 (I could have SWORN to you that we heard most of "Corona Radiata" at this show too, but whatever, it's not on the list)
1 x 121 for "Lights in the Sky" at Virgin Festival '09
1 x 121 for "Meet Your Master" in Ottawa '08
1 x 119 for "28 Ghosts IV", also in Ottawa '08
1 x 114 for "I Can't Give Everything Away" in NYC '18
2 x 111 for "17 Ghosts II" both in Ottawa and Grand Rapids '08 (ooh, double-show multiplier score!)
1 x 107 for "21 Ghosts III" in Grand Rapids '08
1 x 104 for "The Perfect Drug" in Brooklyn '18
1 x 104 for "Various Methods of Escape" in Toronto '13
1 x 101 for "Just Like You Imagined" in Toronto '00

Did I do that right? Or does "Just Like You Imagined" not count because "17 Ghosts II" takes up two slots? It's still an awesome tally either way. If covers don't count, I also got "Burning Bright" at that NYC '18 show for 99 points.

Glad I travelled to Ottawa (actually the suburban town of Kanata, Ontario) for that 2008 show, it really paid dividends for this made-up contest, hahaha!

roolfdriht
12-17-2018, 11:34 AM
Great idea! Playing it Botley-style with one entry per unique song times a multiple for repeats, my results (based on 22 shows) are below. I can't wait for the L.A. veterans to post and blow us out of the water, hahaha.



With Covers














Rank
Base Pts
Multiple
Extended
Song
Show(s)


1
160
1
160
She's Gone Away
Webster Hall NYC 2017


2
147
1
147
A Strange Kind of Love (Peter Murphy)
Terminal 5 NYC 2009


3
147
1
147
Kick in the Eye (Bauhaus)
Terminal 5 NYC 2009


4
131
1
131
Digital (Joy Division)
RCMH NYC 2018


5
127
1
127
Parasite (HTDA)
RCMH NYC 2018


6
124
1
124
Final Solution (Pere Ubu)
Terminal 5 NYC 2009


7
124
1
124
Banged & Blown Through (Saul Williams)
Bowery Ballroom NYC 2009


8
121
2
242
Lights in the Sky
Webster Hall + Terminal 5 NYC 2009


9
121
1
121
Meet Your Master
Bowery Ballroom NYC 2009


10
117
2
234
In Two
Barclays Center NYC + Prudential Center NJ 2013


Total
1,319

1,557












Without Covers














Rank
Base Pts
Multiple
Extended
Song
Show(s)


1
160
1
160
She's Gone Away
Webster Hall NYC 2017


2
121
2
242
Lights in the Sky
Webster Hall + Terminal 5 NYC 2009


3
121
1
121
Meet Your Master
Bowery Ballroom NYC 2009


4
117
2
234
In Two
Barclays Center NYC + Prudential Center NJ 2013


5
117
1
117
The Background World
Kings Theatre NYC 2018


6
111
1
111
Satellite
Barclays Center NYC 2013


7
109
1
109
Over and Out
RCMH NYC 2018


8
107
1
107
This Isn't the Place
RCMH NYC 2018


9
106
1
106
Getting Smaller
Hammerstein Ballroom NYC 2005


10
104
2
208
The Perfect Drug
RCMH + Kings Theatre NYC 2018


Total
1,173

1,515

botley
12-17-2018, 11:42 AM
"Subterraneans" seems to me erroneously high-scoring, because most of the setlist.fm entries from 1995 count it as part of Bowie's set, not NIN's (even though all of NIN performed it onstage, plus Bowie singing parts from other songs). It was a staple of those Outside/Dissonance co-headlining shows, though the 2018 all-NIN revival was a comparative rarity.

roolfdriht
12-17-2018, 12:01 PM
"Subterraneans" seems to me erroneously high-scoring, because most of the setlist.fm entries from 1995 count it as part of Bowie's set, not NIN's (even though it was all of NIN onstage plus Bowie singing parts from other songs). It was a staple of those Outside co-headlining shows.

I'm inclined to agree with you.

By similar logic, we might also argue that the HTDA "covers" where all members who performed in 2013 (MM/TR/AR/AC) were onstage are overvalued. I believe this would properly recognize the rarity of Parasite as performed without Mariqueen...but I'm not champing at the bit to pro forma the data! ;)

botley
12-17-2018, 12:12 PM
Keep in mind we're going by the listing on a user-entered database with its own rules. I mean, the 2018 Palladium shows were all entirely NIN headlining sets, the 1995 shows had a different structure. It's not like Robin and Ilan left the stage (or Rob Sheridan took over the lighting rig!) so they could transition to a HTDA lineup.

ltrandazzo
12-17-2018, 12:16 PM
1. 8 Ghosts I - 147
2. Parasite - 127
3. Banged and Blown Through - 124
4. Lights in the Sky - 121
5. Meet Your Master - 121
6. 28 Ghosts IV - 119
7. Satellite - 111
8. 17 Ghosts II - 111
9. 21 Ghosts III - 107
10. This Isn't The Place - 107

Final Score - ​1195

ltrandazzo
12-17-2018, 12:21 PM
Any reason not to use http://www.nintourhistory.com/songs.php for this, btw?

I used both - Setlist for the states/points, nintourhistory for what I've seen because I don't have photographic memory.

GUYS JUST USE THE RULES ESTABLISHED ABOVE.

innerturmoil
12-17-2018, 12:24 PM
With Covers - 1360
Greensleeves - 160 - Palladium ’18
Down In The Park - 147 - Wiltern ’09
I Die You Die - 147 - Wiltern ’09
Welcome Oblivion - 147 - Palladium ’18
Atmosphere - 140 - Wiltern ’09
And All That Could Have Been - 134 - Palladium ’18
BBB - 134 - Palladium ’18
Ice Age - 131 - Palladium ’18
Please - 111 - Cabazon ’06
Over And Out - 109 - Palladium ’18


No Covers - 1636
And All That Could Have Been - 134 - Palladium ’18
Please - 111 - Cabazon ’06
Over And Out - 109 - Palladium ’18
This Isn’t The Place - 107 ( x2) - 214 - Palladium ’18 (12/15)
The Perfect Drug - 102 (x2) - 204 - Palladium ’18 (12/15)
Just Like You Imagined - 101 - (x2) - 202 - Palladium ’18 , Daly City ’00
Branches / Bones - 99 (x3) - 198 - Bakersfield ’17, FYF ’17, Palladium ’18
Burning Bright - 99 - Bakersfield ’17
The Collector - 90 - Wiltern ’09
Ahead Of Ourselves - 88 (x2) Palladium ’18 (12/15)

xolotl
12-17-2018, 12:26 PM
I used both - Setlist for the states/points, nintourhistory for what I've seen because I don't have photographic memory.

Yeah, I realized after posting that one thing nintourhistory doesn't do is "group" the playcounts with a nice number that's usable as a score.

botley
12-17-2018, 12:56 PM
Over on the opposite end of the scale, until this year it was unthinkable to me that I'd see a NIN show where they DIDN'T play "Wish" OR "Terrible Lie" OR "March of the Pigs", but the second night in NYC this year was that show... and it fucking ruled!

sonic_discord
12-17-2018, 01:07 PM
My top ten earns me 1,372 if I multiply the doubles and include covers.

1. Subterranians (Chicago, IL, Aragon Ballroom, 2018)
2. And all That Could Have Been (Chicago, IL, Aragon Ballroom, 2018)
3. I Would for You (St. Paul, MN, Xcel Energy Center, 2013)
4. The Background World (Chicago, IL, Riot Fest, 2017)
5. I Can’t Give Everything Away x2 (Chicago, IL, Riot Fest, 2017 & Aragon Ballroom, 2018)
6. 17 Ghosts II (Minneapolis, MN, Target Center, 2008)
7. Satellite (St. Paul, MN, Xcel Energy Center, 2013)
8. The Perfect Drug (Chicago, IL, Aragon Ballroom, 2018)
9. Various Methods of Escape (Portland, OR, Moda Center, 2013)
10. Burning Bright (Field on Fire) x 2 (Chicago, IL, Riot Fest, 2017 & Aragon Ballroom, 2018)

I rounded out my top 25 because I was curious.

11. Branches/Bones (Chicago, IL, Riot Fest, 2017)
12. 5 Ghosts I (Minneapolis, MN, Target Center, 2008)
13. Running x2 (St. Paul, MN, Xcel Energy Center, 2013 & Portland, OR, Moda Center, 2013)
14. While I'm Still Here/Black Noise x2 (St. Paul, MN, Xcel Energy Center, 2013 & Portland, OR, Moda Center, 2013)
15. Ahead of Ourselves (Chicago, IL, Aragon Ballroom, 2018)
16. Shit Mirror (Chicago, IL, Aragon Ballroom, 2018)
17. Now I'm Nothing (Chicago, IL, Aragon Ballroom, 2018)
18. A Warm Place x2 (St. Paul, MN, Xcel Energy Center, 2013 & Portland, OR, Moda Center, 2013)
19. The Lovers (Chicago, IL, Aragon Ballroom, 2018)
20. Complication (Minneapolis, MN, Target Center, 2000)
21. The Mark has Been Made (Minneapolis, MN, Target Center, 2000)
22. Less Than (Chicago, IL, Riot Fest, 2017)
23. All Time Low x2 (St. Paul, MN, Xcel Energy Center, 2013 & Portland, OR, Moda Center, 2013)
24. The Greater Good (Minneapolis, MN, Target Center, 2008)
25. Last (Chicago, IL, Aragon Ballroom, 2018)

Toadflax
12-17-2018, 04:42 PM
I don't have time to make this all fancy or figure out which rubric we're using, but I believe I'm at 2,171 with multipliers:

160 Anthrax
160 A Drowning
160 Greensleeves
147 On The Wing
147 Down In The Park x2
147 Welcome Oblivion x2
140 Cars
140 Atmosphere x2
134 Subterraneans x2
134 And All That Could Have Been x2

(If Subterraneans is disqualified, then I'll sub in BBB x1 for 134 fewer total points aka 2,037)

EDIT: In related news, I did such a good job of avoiding spoilers on this tour, I only just now learned Dear World was played.

SECOND EDIT: I feel like excluding covers doesn't work with multipliers, as most of us will start to get into songs that have been played 20+ times, thus increasing the likelihood of skewed scores. For instance, I've seen Just Like You Imagined 4 times, making it (101+4=) 404 points for me, which is more than any single song on the above list.

buzburbank
12-17-2018, 05:03 PM
Wow!! Thanks for all the posts so far! (I more than half expected this thread to be down-voted into oblivion.)

Some observations:

1. Regarding multiples, I envisioned that each performance would count as one of your ten. So the "perfect" (i.e., max possible) score is still just 1561 (each of the 160s + 3 147s).
2. It was inevitable that the highest scores will be influenced a ton by a handful of shows, including this month's run at the Palladium. So I concur entirely that LA-area residents are at a huge advantage. Although the bias against flyover country is handled nicely by the setlist variety at the shows in Chicago.
3. Setlist.fm was chosen for its convenience, but as has been pointed out, it is not perfect. In fact, it is not even static. One could obviously go crazy looking at all of the combinations and permutations of lineups, etc., as well as trying to solve setlist discrepancies, especially for older shows. As one poster has noted, some of the grouping/tallying features of Setlist.fm are particularly helpful here. If I was to do anything, I would "freeze" the current data and make that the 'official' scoring matrix.
4. In addition to 86-ing covers, some other variants could be to eliminate newer material, Ghosts tracks, cap the number/date range of qualifying shows, etc. The possibilities are endless. Each change could make for some interesting outcomes, and would certainly minimize the impact of having attended only a handful of critical dates.

Most importantly, FUN was the objective.

Thanks again to everyone for playing along!

ManBurning
12-17-2018, 05:08 PM
Well... I won't be winning this... that's for sure...



Rank
Pts


Song
Show


1
131


I would for you
Las Vegas - Nov 16, 2013


2
127


What if we could
Chicago - Aug 2, 2013


3
119


28 Ghosts IV
Victoria - Dec 5, 2008


4
117


In Two
Las Vegas - Nov 16, 2013


5
117


In Two
Seattle - Nov 22, 2013


6
117


The Background World
Sacramento - Oct 21, 2017


7
117


The Background World
London - June 24, 2018


8
117


The Background World
Paris - June 25, 2018


9
114


I can't give everything away
Bakersfield - July 19, 2017


10
114


I can't give everything away
Sacramento - Oct 21, 2017


Total
1190





1190/1561 = 76%

One thing I learned, which shocked me looking at those song stats on setlist.fm was "Kinda I want to" was only ever played 7 times. Thought it would have been played more during 89-91. Guess that was the deep cut for those days.

valiantsteed
12-17-2018, 07:10 PM
127 - 6 Ghosts I - Toronto (Aug 5th, 2008)
124 - 14 Ghosts II - Montreal (Nov 12, 2008)
121 - Lights in the Sky - x2
121 - Meet Your Master - x3 (I feel slightly confident I may have seen this song the most live out of any other person possible)
119 - 28 Ghosts IV - x2
114 - I Can't Give Everything Away - Vegas (Nov 30, 2018)
111 - 17 Ghosts II - x3
109 - Over and Out - Vegas (Nov 30th, 2018)
107 - 21 Ghosts III - x2
107 - This Isn't The Place - Vegas (Nov 30th, 2018)
=1160

*if we aren't counting covers*
Add 106 - Getting Smaller - Calgary (July 29th, 2008)
=1152

*if we are counting doubles inside the top 10*
=1208 w/covers, 1205 without


Personally I don't think we should count HTDA songs, not because I don't like them (they are fuckin bad ass), but then we should be counting solo HTDA shows too then, since anyone who saw that tour would qualify for those songs. I would say it was more special to catch that tour, then it would be to have been at a nin show where you got a couple of the songs performed by most of the band.

buzburbank
12-17-2018, 07:58 PM
Because I'm morbidly curious, and have an unhealthy math fetish, I made a Rarest Shows handicapper's guide. These are among the Golden Tickets of rare shows as they featured 2 or more of the least played songs in NIN tour history; if you attended any of these, your score should receive a big boost:



1st

9/8/09

Fonda

587 points

4 of the 46 rarest songs



2nd

12/15/18

Palladium

572

4



3rd

12/7/18

Palladium

568

4



t-4th

8/30/96

Jimmy's

560

4



t-4th

9/5/96

Irving Plaza

560

4



t-4th

9/8/96

Masquerade

560

4



7th

8/28/09

Aragon

532

4



8th

9/10/09

Wiltern

434

3



9th

8/26/09

Terminal 5

392

3



t-10th

1/5/95

Centrum

294

2



t-10th

1/6/95

Nassau Vet

294

2



t-10th

10/29/05

Voodoo

294

2



t-10th

10/30/05

Voodoo

294

2



t-14th

10/30/13

BB&T

278

2



t-14th

12/14/18

Palladium

278

2



16th

3/11/14

Perth

274

2



17th

12/3/18

Bill Graham

272

2



18th

8/29/09

Aragon

271

2



t-19th

8/25/08

Seagate

268

2



t-19th

11/25/18

Saenger

268

2



t-21st

2/26/14

Tokyo

265

2



t-21st

3/7/14

Qantas

265

2



t-21st

3/14/14

Rod Laver

265

2



t-21st

3/19/14

Vector

265

2



25th

9/2/09

Palladium

261

2



26th

5/12/09

Frank Erwin

259

2



t-27th

6/16/18

The Joint

258

2



t-27th

6/24/18

Royal Albert

258

2



t-29th

7/30/09

Madrid

245

2



t-29th

8/22/09

Bowery

245

2




METHODOLOGY: The Setlist.fm data as of tonight was reviewed; the arbitrary cut-off was songs played up to 9 times each, of which there were 46. Thirty separate shows featured at least 2 of the 46 songs, and are listed here. (Approx. 103 shows featured only a single song out of the top 46.)

zaps30
12-17-2018, 08:15 PM
01 14 Ghosts II 124 pts Nov 9 2008 MA
02 In Two 117 pts Oct 12 2013 CT
03 1 Ghosts I 115 pts Aug 7 2008 CT
04 Satellite 111 pts Oct 11 2013 MA
05 Over and Out 109 Oct 19 2018 MA
06 21 Ghosts III 107 Nov 9 2008 MA
07 This Isn't the Place 107 Oct 19 2018 MA
08 The Perfect Drug 105 Oct 20 2018 MA
09 All the Love in the World 102 Oct 19 2018 MA
10 Just Like You Imagined 101 May 3 2000 RI

Total: A paltry 1098 lol

arsenic
12-17-2018, 09:14 PM
1
134
Subterraneans
Chicago - Aragon Ballroom '18


2
134
And All That Could Have Been
Chicago - Aragon Ballroom '18


3
131
Digital
London - Royal Albert Hall '18


4
131
Digital
Berlin - Zitadelle '18


5
127
What If We Could
Milan - Mediolanum '13


6
127
Parasite
London - Royal Albert Hall '18


7
117
The Background World
London - Royal Albert Hall '18


8
117
The Background World
Paris - L'olympia '18


9
114
I Can't Give Everything Away
Chicago - Aragon Ballroom '18


10
114
I Can't Give Everything Away
London - Royal Albert Hall '18



1246 with covers.

Not counting covers, HTDA, and TR/AR tracks I get 1097:





1
134
And All That Could Have Been
Chicago - Aragon Ballroom '18


2
117
The Background World
Paris - L'olympia '18


3
117
The Background World
London - Royal Albert Hall '18


4
109
Over and Out
Chicago - Aragon Ballroom '18


5
107
This Isn't the Place
Chicago - Aragon Ballroom '18


6
104
The Perfect Drug
Chicago - Aragon Ballroom '18


7
104
The Perfect Drug
Chicago - Aragon Ballroom '18


8
104
Various Methods of Escape
Berlin - Zitadelle '14


9
102
All the Love in the World
Chicago - Aragon Ballroom '18


10
99
Burning Bright
London - Royal Albert Hall '18





Numbers aside, it was an incredible 2018 and I'm extremely grateful for the shows I've seen and all the fantastic people I've met this year.

At the end of the 2014 European tour I remember thinking that it was cool but the setlists were kind of stale and I was somewhat fine that the tour had ended. But this year was absolutely wild and I cannot fucking wait for the next shows

gorast
12-17-2018, 10:08 PM
1 x 147 - We Take Mystery (To Bed)
1 x 131 - Digital
1 x 111 - Satellite
1 x 107 - This Isn’t the Place
1 x 104 - Various Methods of Escape
1 x 96 - Running
1 x 92 - While I’m Still Here
1 x 92 - Black Noise
1 x 81 - Now I’m Nothing
1 x 81 - A Warm Place

1042 in total. Dropping out the covers obliterates my total and adds these at the bottom:

1 x 74 - All Time Low
1 x 70 - Last

Leaving me at 908. Oof.

This is certainly aided by the only two shows I've seen, those being Tension on Halloween 2013 in Orlando, and Atlanta this year. The HM songs all give good points because almost all of them disappeared after that tour.

K-Rice
12-18-2018, 12:00 AM
1 Dear World 138
2 Subterraneans* 134
3 Digital* 131
4 Banged and Blown Through* 124
5 28 Ghosts IV 119
6 I Can’t Give Everything Away* 114
7-8 Over and Out 109*2
9-10 This Isn’t the Place 107*2

1192 Total

I went by the original rules and counted multiples separately. Some other bonuses we could do are extra points for debuts or guest appearances. Guests could get interesting: “Banged and Blown Through” has been played 8 times but only once with Saul Wlliams. “Metal” has been played often but sometimes with Numan. Should those performances count more?

Without Covers:

7 21 Ghots III 107
8-9 The Perfect Drug 104*2
10 Various Methods of Escape 104

1004 Total

I’m surprised “Gone, Still” has been played more often than I thought. I thought for sure that would boost my score but it didn’t even make my list.

SM Rollinger
12-18-2018, 12:18 AM
Not to derail this thread but I was also at that 2008 Council Bluffs show and had no idea that that was the 2nd and final time 32 Ghosts IV was performed! I love that track too! Makes me want to go sneak around a dark alley or something :)

Harry Seaward
12-18-2018, 02:21 AM
Score
Date
PlaysTrack
13111/16/2013
6I Would For You
12707/19/2017
7Parasite
11912/12/2008
1128 Ghosts Iv
11711/16/2013
12In Two
11407/19/2017
14I Can't Give Everything Away (live debut)
11111/16/2013
15Satellite
10712/12/2008
1721 Ghosts III
10411/15/2013
20Various Methods of Escape
10211/15/2013
21All The Love In The World
10007/19/2017
25Branches/Bones (live debut)
1,132


Notable mentions: Less Than (live debut), The Lovers (live debut), Burning Bright (Field on Fire) (live debut)

JessicaSarahS
12-18-2018, 03:26 AM
160. Greensleeves Palladium 12/15
147. Welcome Oblivion Palladium 12/15
138. Dear World Bill Graham 12/3
134 (x2) Subterraneans 11/30 The Joint & 12/3 Bill Graham
134 AATCHB 12/4 Bill Graham
134. BBB 12/15 Palladium
131. I Would For You 11/16/2013 The Joint
131. Ice Age 12/15 Palladium
131. Digital 6/16 The Joint
127. Parasite 6/16 The Joint

Total: 1,501
I’ll post the non-covers list tomorrow.

Haysey
12-18-2018, 03:37 AM
This is a great idea...until i started doing it! Even though i've done 4 shows over 10 years (2 of which were super small 1500 people special shows) i've not seen ANY rare songs...AT ALL. In fact each of the shows i've seen have almost been the same bar new tracks for albums out that tour cycle...AND NOT EVEN RARE ONES, JUST ONES THAT BECAME STAPLES....BLAST IT!

...i need to go to more shows!

ManBurning
12-18-2018, 05:19 AM
1
134
Subterraneans
Chicago - Aragon Ballroom '18


























































Ohhhh shit son! Subterraneans is in this!?!?!? I completely glanced over that.
This changes everything about my score.... completely.... drastically!

Yet, I'm too lazy to edit my original post. It'll be way too much editing.

Lazy man's edit: My new score will be 1210.

icklekitty
12-18-2018, 05:47 AM
1. 8 ghosts (1x157)
2. I die, you die (1x 150)
3. Cars (2x 142)
4. We're In This Together (2x 136)
5. Digital (2x131)
6. Parasite (1x129)
7. Banged and Blown Through (1x 124)
8. Lights in the Sky (2x 122)
9. Meet Your Master (1x121)
10. The Background World (2x117)

= 1977

Without covers:
1. 8 ghosts (1x157)
2. We're In This Together (2x 136)
3. Lights in the Sky (2x 122)
4. Meet Your Master (1x121)
5. The Background World (2x117)
6. Please (1x 113 - I'm counting this because they played it at a soundcheck in Glasgow on 28 February 2007)
7. Getting Smaller (3x106)
8. Branches/Bones (3x100)
9. Burning Bright (2x99)
10. Deep (3x 98)

= 2251


You can cross check here: http://www.nintourhistory.com/profile.php?userid=286

monkeyarse
12-18-2018, 07:33 AM
1) Anthrax (1*160)
2) Down in the Park (2*147)
3) I Die You Die (2*147)
4) Atmosphere (2*140)
5) Cars (3*140)
6) Dear World (1*138)
7) Digital (3*131)
8) Parasite (2*127)
9) Lights in the Sky (2*121)
10) The Background World (3*117)


2695 with covers..


1) Dear World (1*138)
2) Lights in the Sky (2*121)
3) The Background World (3*117)
4) Over and Out (109*2)
5) This Isnt the Place (107*2)
5) The Perfect Drug (104*3)
6) All the Love in the World (102*2)
7) Just Like You Imagined (101*2)
8) Branches/Bones (does this really count...? ) (99*5)
9) Burning Bright (99*4)
10) Deep (98*1)

2870?

cdm
12-18-2018, 07:50 AM
Two things: 1. NYC / Chicago / LA crowds really have the upper hand on this 2. this CBI tour has really unlocked a level of obsessiveness never seen before and I applaud you all.

cdm
12-18-2018, 08:17 AM
FYI: Setlist.fm does not include the cover/tease of The Loop Closes (it's listed as a note attached to The Great Destroyer) from Webster 2017 but NIN Tour History lists it as a separate song. Make of that whatever you like...

Nor does Setlist differentiate between Right Where It Belongs / v2...NIN Tour History says v2 played 3 times

icklekitty
12-18-2018, 08:26 AM
Two things: 1. NYC / Chicago / LA crowds

Travel is a thing. I've only been to two shows in LA (three shows in the USA total) and I have one of the highest point scores so far.

To your other point, the site also doesn't seem to differentiate between metal WITH Gary Numan and metal as NIN.

cdm
12-18-2018, 09:01 AM
I think these are right.

160 She's Gone Away
160 The Loop Closes* ( IM COUNTING IT GODDAMMIT )
147 Strange Kind of Love*
131 Digital*
127 Parasite*
124 Final Solution*
117 In Two x2
117 The Background World
114 I Can't Give Everything Away*
111 Please
1425 Total

Without Covers
160 She's Gone Away
117 In Two x2
117 The Background World
111 Please
109 Over and Out
107 This Isn't the Place
104 Various Methods of Escape
104 Perfect Drug x2
102 All the Love In the World
101 Just Like You Imagined
1353 Total

I can't believe I just spent time on this. This is ripe for some new code built into NIN Tour History.

fillow
12-19-2018, 07:06 AM
99 Branches/Bones
94 Gone, Still
91 HYPERPOWER!
88 Ahead of Ourselves
84 Shit Mirror
84 God Break Down the Door
80 The Lovers
77 Less Than
70 The Way Out Is Through
70 Last

Total: 837
Sigh.


How about a different game?
Similar rules, but you list top-10 most played songs that you haven't seen.

9 Sin
12 Down in It
15 The Frail
17 The Wretched
22 Get Down, Make Love
26 The Only Time
28 Somewhat Damaged
31 Ringfinger
33 That's What I Get
33 Starfuckers, Inc.

total: 226

icklekitty
12-19-2018, 07:20 AM
How about a different game?
Similar rules, but you list top-10 most played songs that you haven't seen.

9 Sin
12 Down in It
15 The Frail
17 The Wretched
22 Get Down, Make Love
26 The Only Time
28 Somewhat Damaged
31 Ringfinger
33 That's What I Get
33 Starfuckers, Inc.

total: 226

Interesting! I'm surprised some of those are so high up.


Here's mine:
22 Get Down Make Love
26 The Only Time
31 Ringfinger
33 That's What I Get
38 Happiness in Slavery
64 Right Where It Belongs
68 31 Ghosts
74 All Time Low
78 The Mark Has Been Made
79 Complication

=513

(I've apparently heard Down in it live 7 times? I have no recollection of this).

botley
12-19-2018, 07:38 AM
How about a different game?
Similar rules, but you list top-10 most played songs that you haven't seen.

I got pretty lucky seeing a Fragility 2.0 show, and every tour since barring Performance 2007, so it's mostly old tracks (except for "Less Than" and "HYPERPOWER!") on my still-to-see list:

26 The Only Time
31 Ringfinger
33 That's What I Get
41 The Downward Spiral
70 Last
73 Physical (You're So)
77 Less Than
84 Big Man with a Gun
88 Piggy (Nothing Can Stop Me Now)
91 HYPERPOWER!

total: 614

Rounding out the top twenty:

94 Gone, Still
98 Deep
99 Branches/Bones
102 All the Love in the World
102 Closer to God
106 Getting Smaller
107 This Isn't the Place
109 Hand Covers Bruise
109 Over and Out
111 Satellite

buzburbank
12-19-2018, 08:26 AM
How about a different game?
Similar rules, but you list top-10 most played songs that you haven't seen.

Agree that this is an interesting twist.

My score is 652. Here is a breakdown, along with a comment about the frequency of being played and relative rarity.



1

That's What I Get

33 pts

Played 153 times, none since '91



2

Me, I'm Not

42

112, (not that rare, just missed it!)



3

No, You Don't

51

90, none since '07



4

Into the Void

55

81, none since '13



5

The Great Below

66

60, none since '00



6

With Teeth

75

49, none since '07



7

The Mark Has Been Made

78

44, none since '00



8

Complication

78

44, none since '00



9

Big Man With A Gun

84

41, only twice since '94



10

The Collector

90

37, none since '09




A "win" here could be LOWEST score, in which case you might be considered the UN-luckiest NIN fan; or the HIGHEST score, in which you would be glossed 'King/Queen of the Catalog.'

If you're looking for high scores, it probably favors older fans, and more frequent attendance at shows. Obviously, the earlier in a band's career, the smaller the catalog, and the more frequent everything was played. The older material falls off over time, and becomes more 'rare,' even though the play count remains relatively high. Although, the diverse selists of the '09 and '18 runs also fill in some of the gaps.

Ash512
12-19-2018, 09:38 AM
I don't think we should be counting multipliers. I'm seeing people here getting very high scores from mid-level rarities ranking at around 100 but seen a dozen time.

Here's my count anyway, from 39 shows :

WITH COVERS
160 - She’s Gone Away
160 - The Loop Closes
134 - Subterraneans
134 - AATCHB
131 - Digital (2)
127 - What If We Could
127 - Parasite (2)
127 - 6 Ghosts I
124 - 14 Ghosts II
124 - Final Solution


Total : 1 353
With multipliers : 1 611




WITHOUT COVERS
160 - She’s Gone Away
134 - AATCHB
127 - What If We Could
127 - 6 Ghosts I
124 - 14 Ghosts II
121 - Lights In The Sky
121 - Meet Your Master (3)
119 - 28 Ghosts IV
117 - In Two (2)
117 - The Background World (4)

Total : 1267
With multipliers : 1977



Songs not seen :

26 - The Only Time
31 - Ringfinger
33 - That’s What I Get
66 - The Great Below
78 - The Mark Has Been Made
78 - Complications
84 - Big Man With A Gun
91 - Hyperpower
98 - Deep
101 - Just Like You Imagined

Total : 686

roolfdriht
12-19-2018, 11:04 AM
Here's my never-seen top 20.

Ignoring the Ghosts tracks and PHM favorites that haven't been played since the mid-90s, I'm still holding out hope of seeing GDML and at least a few of the Fragile and W_T-era rarities before Trent hangs up his spurs.



Rank
Points
Song


1
22
Get Down Make Love (Queen cover)


2
26
The Only Time


3
31
Ringfinger


4
33
That's What I Get


5
51
No, You Don't


6
75
With Teeth


7
91
HYPERPOWER!


8
94
Every Day Is Exactly the Same


9
98
Deep


10
104
Various Methods of Escape


11
107
21 Ghosts III


12
109
Hand Covers Bruise (TR/AR cover)


13
111
Please


14
115
1 Ghosts I


15
115
25 Ghosts III


16
119
Maybe Just Once


17
119
28 Ghosts IV


18
121
Capital G


19
124
14 Ghosts II


20
127
Kinda I Want To


Top 10
625



Top 20
1,792

halo eighteen
12-19-2018, 11:42 AM
Made super simple by my having no covers in my top 10 or songs heard more than once. That's what happens when you only see 1-2 shows a tour and when you started in 2000 lol

147 - 8 Ghosts I
121 - Meet Your Master
117 - The Background World
115 - 1 Ghosts I
109 - Over and Out
107 - 21 Ghosts III
107 - This Isn't the Place
104 - The Perfect Drug
102 - All the Love in the World
99 - Branches/Bones [Burning Bright (Field on Fire) also tied for this slot]
1128 Total

nmitchell86
12-20-2018, 07:28 AM
Rarest 10 I have seen (including doubles and covers...):
134 - Subterraneans 27oct2018
134 - AATCHB 26oct2018
131 - Digital 16jun2018
127 - Parasite 16jun2018
117 - The Background World 15sep2017
117 - The Background World 15jun2018
114 - I can't give everything away 15sep2017
114 - I can't give everything away 15jun2018
114 - I can't give everything away 27oct2018
109 - over and out 25oct2018
Score 1211
Top 10 most played havn't seen:
10 suck
12 down in it
22 get down make love
23 dead souls
26 The Only time
29 La Mer
31 ringfinger
33 that's what i get
36 you know what you are
37 The line begins to blur
score 259

SchwarzerAbt
12-21-2018, 05:42 PM
I've only been to two concerts thus far, so my score is rather low 855 points:



Rank

Track Name
Play Count
Points

Venue


1
Digital*
6
131

Zitadelle Berlin 2018


2
Branches/Bones
25
99
Zitadelle Berlin 2018


3
Ahead of Ourselves
38
88
Zitadelle Berlin 2018


4
God Break Down the Door
41
84
Zitadelle Berlin 2018



5
Shit Mirror
41
84
Zitadelle Berlin 2018


6
The Lovers
43
80
Zitadelle Berlin 2018


7
Less Than
45
77
Zitadelle Berlin 2018


8
Metal*
46
76
Berlin Arena 2009


9
Physical (You‘re So)*
55
73
Berlin Arena 2009


10
I‘m Afraid of Americans*
70
63
Berlin Arena 2009



I am quite happy I got to see Digital. Afraid of Americans I have seen twice, but as it is the last of the list it only counts one time.

Without covers the score goes down to 731 points. These are the successors:



Rank
Track Name
Play Count
Points
Venue


6
Less Than
45
77
Zitadelle Berlin 2018


7
Non-Entity
72
61
Berlin Arena 2009


8
Heresy
72
61
Berlin Arena 2009


9
Head Down
80
56
Berlin Arena 2009


10
The Downward Spiral
117
41
Berlin Arena 2009



Considering my top ten consists to great parts of trilogy songs I think that these are even cooler to some extend. I am especially glad I got to see Non-Entity and Heresy.

In my top tracks there are still some major standards missing:



Rank
Track Name
Play Count
Points



1
Terrible Lie
742
4



2
Closer
617
7


3
Sin
515
9


4
Suck
480
10


5
The Wretched
325
17


6
Eraser
296
19


7
Only
287

20


8
Sanctified
287
20


9
Get Down, Make Love
255
22


10
Dead Souls
215
23



My rank is 151 points. So apparently I'd be one of the persons that would be happy to see Closer. Terrible Lie is also a big miss. I am quite surprised to see Get Down, Make Love in this list though. Didn't know that it has been such a staple in NIN's performances