Waves - a dramatic musical movie (2019) (UPDATE: not a musical)

[thevoid99]

Trent Reznor & Atticus Ross will be scoring Waves by Trey Edward Shults: https://www.indiewire.com/2018/07/waves-lucas-hedges-sterling-k-brown-trey-edward-shults-trent-reznor-1201980620/

[Deacon Blackfire]

Whoa. I actually liked It Comes At Night (which faced significant backlash because of "misleading" marketing) but this sounds completely different from that, or anything Trent and Atticus have scored before, and if this is true I have no idea what to expect. Exciting.

[Arkadin]

The really interesting part-it is a musical. So Reznor/Ross might have a bigger part in this than what they have scored in the past, even if "some iconic contemporary songs" are used. Considering that they have already signed on before some of the actors, it wouldn't surprise me if they have already composed some music for the film as part of pre-production preparations. Unusual for most films, but musicals are not most films.

[gorast]

This already sounds awesome. I can't wait to hear this.

The ETA would probably be late next year, right? Or even later, considering most of the cast hasn't been selected yet?

[spahn]

According the article above:

"Update (July 3): The original report stating Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross will be scoring “Waves (https://www.indiewire.com/t/waves/)” is not confirmed yet. A producer on the project says a deal with the duo is not finalized."

Will probably happen but not "official" yet.

[snaapz]

Are we talking a production like "Across the universe" or like "Into the wild"?

[zecho]

Are we talking a production like "Across the universe" or like "Into the wild"?


Into the Wild wasn't a musical?

[sonic_discord]

I will keep my mind open until I see something like a trailer, but of all of their score projects, this is the one I find least exciting. I'm just not usually too interesting in musicals, I guess. Speaking of musicals, I'd love to hear more about that Fight Club musical that Chuck Palahniuk was supposedly trying to talk Trent into doing.

[snaapz]

No, 'Into The Wild' wasn't a musical; but I think of it as more than just a simple soundtrack... maybe its just me. On the other hand 'ATU' was a full out musical and I guess it's just hard for me to wrap my head around the idea of TR producing a musical...

Lead Male: "No! Not Me! It was not ever me! It was never me in that mirrorrrRRRrrRRrr!"
Lead Female: "Oh no! Oh no! The cracks have opened up! Can't run. Cant Run. Inside me he will be!"
Lead Male: "She's gone"

[zecho]

No, 'Into The Wild' wasn't a musical; but I think of it as more than just a simple soundtrack... maybe its just me. On the other hand 'ATU' was a full out musical and I guess it's just hard for me to wrap my head around the idea of TR producing a musical...

Lead Male: "No! Not Me! It was not ever me! It was never me in that mirrorrrRRRrrRRrr!"
Lead Female: "Oh no! Oh no! The cracks have opened up! Can't run. Cant Run. Inside me he will be!"
Lead Male: "She's gone"

There are more serious musicals in existence. Les Mis is a good example, or Dancer in the Dark. Others include recent movies like La La Land and Sing Street. I could totally see a more serious musical along those lines.

[BRoswell]

I have a feeling Trent & Atticus may be providing score material only and not actually writing any of the songs.

[Damage]

I will keep my mind open until I see something like a trailer, but of all of their score projects, this is the one I find least exciting. I'm just not usually too interesting in musicals, I guess. Speaking of musicals, I'd love to hear more about that Fight Club musical that Chuck Palahniuk was supposedly trying to talk Trent into doing.

Based on his responses at the Chicago record store interview done last year, Trent kinda sounded like he WOULD be willing to participate, i kinda got the impression that he's just waiting on others to green light the project and it moves along before he commits to it.

[botley]

I have a feeling Trent & Atticus may be providing score material only and not actually writing any of the songs.

I've been thinking about this... "A Minute to Breathe" showed that they're capable of writing a song to fit a narrative subject. It would be very interesting to hear a whole storyline with other characters singing TR's lyrics.

[fillow]

The film debuts today at Telluride Festival, apparently.
TR & AR are still listed as composers on imdb despite not being confirmed as of last summer, and they are also mentioned in the festival's PDF program: http://telluridecms-production.s3.amazonaws.com/assets/guides/46th-TFF-program-guide-FINAL.pdf

[botley]

Nice review in Variety (https://variety.com/2019/film/reviews/waves-review-2-1203319165/), shouting out TR&AR's contributions to stitching together the existing songs with score. And one in Indiewire (https://www.indiewire.com/2019/08/waves-review-trey-shults-kelvin-harrison-jr-1202169932/) too. The Hollywood Reporter calls our boys "master conjurors" (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/waves-review-1235090)!

Doesn't sound like a musical, after all. More "operatic" according to the latter review.

[fillow]

https://youtu.be/V5z3cr8AB5g

[sonic_discord]

This honestly looks much better than I expected.

[simonn]

Some of those snippets from reviews make it sound great tbf. And one of the lines of dialogue was 'We're in this together', so...

[eversonpoe]

my friend Clint saw the film at CIFF recently and had this to say about the score:


Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross‘ ambient score is most deeply felt in the anxiety-inducing noise of its first hour, but finds instances of grace as the film goes on.

link (https://thespool.net/festivals/2019/10/ciff-dispatch-waves-deerskin-the-aeronauts-the-prince/)

[StockAvuryah]

my friend Clint saw the film at CIFF recently and had this to say about the score:



link (https://thespool.net/festivals/2019/10/ciff-dispatch-waves-deerskin-the-aeronauts-the-prince/)

looks very promising. That’s what part of the beauty of their music to me, the ability of being the right kind of noisy while being raw and human underneath

[AlanMorlock]

Saw this at the St. Louis International Film Festival, though I think it actually gets released next week.

First off, pretty good movie.

Despite the early reporting, the film is not a musical. It's is very music driven but it's more akin to something like American Graffiti or Dazed and Confused. Music is a constant presence. Trent and Atticus's score just kind of pinch hits in between tracks. For the most part their music comes into accentuate some of the most extreme emotional moments. They get to develop a few decent motifs but mostly their contributions are some short stingers. Good work on their part but nothing that would stand apart from the film like their Fincher work.

[gorast]

Probably going to be an EP along the lines of mid90s, if that's the case. Quick digital download thrown up on nin.com and that's that.

[simonn]

Saw this at the St. Louis International Film Festival, though I think it actually gets released next week.

First off, pretty good movie.

Despite the early reporting, the film is not a musical. It's is very music driven but it's more akin to something like American Graffiti or Dazed and Confused. Music is a constant presence. Trent and Atticus's score just kind of pinch hits in between tracks. For the most part their music comes into accentuate some of the most extreme emotional moments. They get to develop a few decent motifs but mostly their contributions are some short stingers. Good work on their part but nothing that would stand apart from the film like their Fincher work.

Thanks for this. You have successfully 'managed my expectations'....

[paul_guyet]

Probably going to be an EP along the lines of mid90s, if that's the case. Quick digital download thrown up on nin.com and that's that.After that Ringer article, I think you've hit on it.

[sonic_discord]

After that Ringer article, I think you've hit on it.

Still, based on the description in the aforementioned Ringer article, I'm quite intrigued to hear

[simonn]

Sounds suitably terrifying having read that article. Can anything beat Consummation though?

[paul_guyet]

Sounds suitably terrifying having read that article. Can anything beat Consummation though?I'd pay folding money to find out.

[otnavuskire]

Score should drop Monday according to Trent on Instagram.

[gorast]

https://i.imgur.com/EzJh8IJ.png

Here's a screenshot of the comment, just in case anyone was looking and couldn't find it.

[Prettybrokenspiral]

"I'm pretty much your biggest fan of all time."

Nope, that would be me, pal.. :)

[eversonpoe]

Here's a screenshot of the comment, just in case anyone was looking and couldn't find it.

why do people feel the need to gush like that when they get a response? i get if you're meeting an artist in person, but on the internet, it just comes across as so trite and kinda creepy. just say "awesome, thanks!" and take a screenshot to send to your other NIN friends so you can be like "he spoke to me!"

[bobbie solo]

For real. What a cringey & pointless response. Rest assured the convo is now over b/c you responded like a maniac.

[nmitchell86]

why do people feel the need to gush like that when they get a response? i get if you're meeting an artist in person, but on the internet, it just comes across as so trite and kinda creepy. just say "awesome, thanks!" and take a screenshot to send to your other NIN friends so you can be like "he spoke to me!"


For real. What a cringey & pointless response. Rest assured the convo is now over b/c you responded like a maniac.

I don't know, maybe cringey, maybe not. Let's face it, the conversation was over once TR posted a reply. Either way, the kid is super happy and I think people should be happy/ supportive for him. He did break some release news and that's cool. Either way I'll be stocking nin.com for the release to place my order.

[bobbie solo]

Asking Trent to come to middle of nowhere Iowa in an IG response in a post about this new sdtk work for Waves is just pointless and makes you look silly.

[fillow]

Asking Trent to come to middle of nowhere Iowa in an IG response in a post about this new sdtk work for Waves is just pointless and makes you look silly.
Just a reminder that Trent once promised the entire next tour will be in Iowa. Time to deliver on that promise, I guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDLxDuhZ-tE

[Haysey_Draws]

"I'm pretty much your biggest fan of all time."

Nope, that would be me, pal.. :)

Hey get in line ;)

[ryanmcfly]

Anyone have an idea what time this is supposed to drop?

[spahn]

Anyone have an idea what time this is supposed to drop?

nope, but i'm sure we're all checking nin.com :)

[WorzelG]

I saw something on Twitter saying TRAR are nominated for a Hollywood Critics Association award for Waves

https://twitter.com/99cines/status/1199032164572160002?s=20

https://twitter.com/99cines/status/1199032164572160002?s=20

[nmitchell86]

So I guess the score that dropped today was the tweet for Watchmen Vol. 2 article?

[cdm]

So I guess the score that dropped today was the tweet for Watchmen Vol. 2 article?

No, I think he was referring to Waves. On Instagram someone asked about the digital release and he said “should drop Monday.”

[nmitchell86]

No, I think he was referring to Waves. On Instagram someone asked about the digital release and he said “should drop Monday.”

So is "Should drop Monday" the new "Soon"? lol. Because I haven't seen anything about Waves today.

[LOVEANDZOMBIES]

Nothing's coming out today. Not Watchmen Vol 2, Not Waves. Hopefully tomorrow since Tuesday is a typical release day, but who knows. Could be Friday, could be next year - could be "soon"...

[paul_guyet]

Nothing's coming out today. Not Watchmen Vol 2, Not Waves. Hopefully tomorrow since Tuesday is a typical release day, but who knows. Could be Friday, could be next year - could be "soon"...I thought Friday was the new Tuesday as far as release days...

[paul_guyet]

I saw something on Twitter saying TRAR are nominated for a Hollywood Critics Association award for Waves

https://twitter.com/99cines/status/1199032164572160002?s=20

https://twitter.com/99cines/status/1199032164572160002?s=20I hope this means it's more than a mini scroe like Mid90's.

[BRoswell]

I'm just going to assume Trent was being sarcastic when he said it would come out Monday. :p

[Geekofnature]

I'm just going to assume Trent was being sarcastic when he said it would come out Monday. :pHe didn't say which Monday it drop on.

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[Deadpool]

"CURRENTLY ONLY AVAILABLE IN DIGITAL FORMAT"

"TRENT AND ATTICUS ARE AT THEIR MOST ABSTRACT, DECONSTRUCTED AND BEAUTIFUL"


Want! Want! Want! (but I'm a total dweeb and want to see the movie first :()

https://store.nin.com/collections/music/products/waves


14 tracks.

77 minutes.

*drools*

Welp, this definitely ain't an EP in the vein of Mid90s – hell yeah!!



Wonder if we'll get this on streaming? Perhaps at midnight when Watchmen vol. 2 drops?

Damn, it's a good time to be a NIN fan. <3

[Toadflax]

77 minutes? Holy hell. Let's do the math after all of Watchmen comes out and see how much music these chaps put out this year. It should be somewhere between 5 and 6 hours – more music than NIN has put out in the past decade!

[richardp]

Godamn, we got 13 more Bird Box tracks, Watchmen Vol. 2, and WAVES all within like 48 hours. What a time to be alive.

[Toadflax]

There's a 10.5 minute track, an 11 minute track, and a 22.5 minute track. These motherfuckers went prog.

[Deadpool]

According to the official Nine Inch Nails account, the Waves score is available "only at nin.com" which I'm guessing means no streaming release? Fine by me. Makes it more special in a way, not unlike the Expanded Bird Box score.

[sonic_discord]

Already downloaded and listening to the FLAC, I'm liking what I'm hearing so far...

[Lerxto]

So is this null 11? 12? 13?
Everything Burns ends quite abruptly. And each track has their own artwork.

[richardp]

Yoooo this score is BY FAR the most terrifying sounding shit they've ever done. Two tracks so far have freaked me the fuck out, with that dude's breathing mixed into the tracks.

[eversonpoe]

y'all, each track has its own individual artwork!!! EEEEEEEEEEE!

[paul_guyet]

Godamn, we got 13 more Bird Box tracks, Watchmen Vol. 2, and WAVES all within like 48 hours. What a time to be alive.Ugh. Guys, there's too much new music from Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross. Can they just fucking cool it already?

[Tom]

"LOTS COMING IN 2019"

Dude wasn't kidding!

[cdm]

FLAC is 666mb

[untold]

FUCKKKK i just bought the album, i received the download link and i have this message when i click on the link

http://download.backstreetmerch.com/errors/too_many_downloads

support contacted, now i'm waiting...

offices are closed (UK-Store here in France)

[richardp]

FUCKKKK i just bought the album, i received the download link and i have this message when i click on the link

http://download.backstreetmerch.com/errors/too_many_downloads

support contacted, now i'm waiting...

offices are closed (UK-Store here in France)

Try using a VPN when clicking the link

[untold]

Try using a VPN when clicking the link

thank you for the tip,but i tried with TOR and hide my ass, same error message... no luck


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[sonic_discord]

y'all, each track has its own individual artwork!!! EEEEEEEEEEE!

Shit, I downloaded the FLAC files, so I only have the cover art. Mind sharing the MP3s or whatever has the individual artwork?

[richardp]

Just finished my complete listen, and yeah it's pretty fucking great. Wounds Heal is.... phenomenal. Is this going to get them their second Oscar nom?

[cdm]

Shit, I downloaded the FLAC files, so I only have the cover art. Mind sharing the MP3s or whatever has the individual artwork?

Same here. I usually buy mp3 but I always feel like a sucker for getting a lossy format for the same price. Bought FLAC this time and got doubly boned because no fancy unique track art and conversion to convenient mp3 files is being a pain in my ass.

[Lerxto]

Shit, I downloaded the FLAC files, so I only have the cover art. Mind sharing the MP3s or whatever has the individual artwork?
Flac files have individual artworks too. They're embedded.

[sonic_discord]

Flac files have individual artworks too. They're embedded.

Oh... well, I can't see them. I also converted the FLAC files to Apple Lossless m4a files so I could put them on my iPod (yes, I still rock an iPod).

[cdm]

Flac files have individual artworks too. They're embedded.

Shit you're right. They appeared once I converted.

[Reznor2112]

Yoooo this score is BY FAR the most terrifying sounding shit they've ever done. Two tracks so far have freaked me the fuck out.

You are referring to the WAVES score and not Bird Box correct? I haven't heard it yet but definitely not what I expected to feel when I can sit down and listen to it...

[Toadflax]

You are referring to the WAVES score and not Bird Box correct? I haven't heard it yet but definitely not what I expected to feel when I can sit down and listen to it...

Yup. Per an article posted about the score earlier this month, Trent and Atticus were specifically asked to make a terrifying score.

[richardp]

You are referring to the WAVES score and not Bird Box correct? I haven't heard it yet but definitely not what I expected to feel when I can sit down and listen to it...

Nope. Waves. There are some deeply unsettling sounds on this release.

[zecho]

This is by far the weirdest release so far. Sounds like a sinister version of a Stars of the Lid record.

[StockAvuryah]

Very different from the rest of the soundtracks from the first few tracks I’ve heard. It’s good. It’s very good.

but holy fuck a 22min track ?

[arsenic]

but holy fuck a 22min track ?

It kinda reminds me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baLdw6GzzN8

[That other guy]

Purchased, download link on my phone disappeared, no email confirmation yet, customer service is closed...All my info is auto filled so nothing is wrong..

[caca]

Man, what a day! My Birdbox and With Teeth LPs arrived, my Watchmen Vol 2 is supposed to arrive tomorrow, and now this.

About to give it a listen...

[Ruined]

Wow love this and the fact that Trent is dropping so much music over the last few days!

[Damage]

77 minutes? Holy hell. Let's do the math after all of Watchmen comes out and see how much music these chaps put out this year. It should be somewhere between 5 and 6 hours – more music than NIN has put out in the past decade!

Right!!! Great time to be a fan!!!

[Damage]

Oh... well, I can't see them. I also converted the FLAC files to Apple Lossless m4a files so I could put them on my iPod (yes, I still rock an iPod).

Same ... i just got a new one 1TB!!!

[nmitchell86]

Oh... well, I can't see them. I also converted the FLAC files to Apple Lossless m4a files so I could put them on my iPod (yes, I still rock an iPod).

iPod !?! I still rock thw the OG Zune. Nice to know old tech is still alive and kicking!

[Helpmeiaminhell (is now in hell)]

I been waiting for a score that is dark as fuck all the way through.....Bird Box was close. This one surpasses it.....John Carpenter should give TR and AR a call to do the new Halloween film. After hearing this one, they would revolutionize horror scores for years to come if given the chance

[ltrandazzo]

Feedback Loop has an Under The Skin vibe to it and I am here for it.

[lastheardfrom]

Would anyone spare a minute to upload the different track artwork? I bought the WAV files so I don't get them. :confused:

OR I'm happy just to trade links.

[dzaver]

i would love to see the artworsk too. i bought the flac version. somebody said that when you convert the files to mp3 that you see them - but i dont. is there something special that need to be done in order to see them?

[Kamelion]

My FLACs all have the album art embedded - not sure why some people aren't seeing it. Here's a Dropbox link with it all zipped up :)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ilff2gv78oai1n/WAVES%20album%20art.zip?dl=0

[StockAvuryah]

It kinda reminds me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baLdw6GzzN8

more like this : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XiKWfcy-Z70

and really, because there’s a few piano notes in pyramid song that are originally almost all together, and in the slowed down version you can hear them separately clearly, and there’s a similar situation in one of the tracks here

« After The Fire » is wonderful.

[Haysey_Draws]

So quick question for you, does anyone know what the official run times for each track are?

I feel like a few of the early tracks end...kinda abruptly, and i want to see if that was the intention or if my download fucked up. I quickly added up the tracks i have and the run time is 75:30 which is shy of the 77 NIN.com states but not by much...

Everything Burns (1:06)
Bad News (3:00)
I'm Disappearing (5:05)
Odds Against (5:16)
Holding It Together (2.37)
Feedbackloop (11:16)
After The Fire (3.56)
Nobody Home (3:04)
The Light Shines Trough (10:24)
Forgetting (1:54)
How It Begin? (0:52)
Wounds Heal (22:31)
Ties (2:12)
Leaving Missouri (4:17)

I'm probably just being paranoid, but just wanna make sure :)

P.S This scores nice and DARK!

[trollmanen]

So quick question for you, does anyone know what the official run times for each track are?

I feel like a few of the early tracks end...kinda abruptly, and i want to see if that was the intention or if my download fucked up. I quickly added up the tracks i have and the run time is 75:30 which is shy of the 77 NIN.com states but not by much...


I noticed the same thing, I just got through the first few tracks and they did end very abruptly like they cut off. I'm redownloading now to see if it's the same.

[Haysey_Draws]

OK my bad i made an error in my calculations, actual run-time of all tracks is actually 77:29, so i think that is how the tracks are meant to be.

Sorry everyone!

[Leprekon666]

Wonder if this will be on vinyl. Does this have a Null#?

[Jon]

So quick question for you, does anyone know what the official run times for each track are?

I feel like a few of the early tracks end...kinda abruptly, and i want to see if that was the intention or if my download fucked up. I quickly added up the tracks i have and the run time is 75:30 which is shy of the 77 NIN.com states but not by much...

Everything Burns (1:06)
Bad News (3:00)
I'm Disappearing (5:05)
Odds Against (5:16)
Holding It Together (2.37)
Feedbackloop (11:16)
After The Fire (3.56)
Nobody Home (3:04)
The Light Shines Trough (10:24)
Forgetting (1:54)
How It Begin? (0:52)
Wounds Heal (22:31)
Ties (2:12)
Leaving Missouri (4:17)

I'm probably just being paranoid, but just wanna make sure :)

P.S This scores nice and DARK!

The abrupt ends are intentional.

This score... holy fuck...

[BRoswell]

I'm loving this score, especially the weird little vocal tics and sounds that are interspersed.

[Reznor2112]

This score... holy fuck...

Agreed. Also reading "non-spoiler" reviews of the film while listening and I'm honestly nervous to see it. The Ringer article paints it that it will emotionally wreck you and has some shocking scenes...i am way to fragile with movies like this lol . Not sure I will recover enough to be able to enjoy the score post-viewing (once I see it) if it truly his this intense as described without revisiting the images that correspond with it.

[BJM]

The FLAC download is 666 MB. Pure coincidence, of course, but still...

[firewlker]

I can smell another Oscar coming. The OST is terrific.

[jmtd]

I’m reluctantly going to hold off buying or listening to this until my bird box turns up because I don’t want to diminish my enjoyment if that in any way

[versusreality]

random, but is this on any streaming platforms?

[simonn]

random, but is this on any streaming platforms?

Not yet on Spotify, but imagine it will be at some point. All the others have ended up on there.

[Haysey_Draws]

So much of this score is just achingly beautiful!

[eversonpoe]

this is some of the most beautiful and unsettling music TR+AR have made. i absolutely love it. have only listened once but can't wait to listen again.

[Jon]

DREAM WAVES

https://i.imgur.com/l0mw1yw.png

[eversonpoe]

has anyone else noticed that several of the MP3s (downloaded directly from the nin.com links) continue past their running time without showing any further time elapsed or remaining? "everything burns" does it, along with a few others. very strange!

[NIN64]

Are we sure that Everything Burns is supposed to end so abruptly? The quick conclusion and transition to the next track feels like such a cock-block...

[zecho]

has anyone else noticed that several of the MP3s (downloaded directly from the nin.com links) continue past their running time without showing any further time elapsed or remaining? "everything burns" does it, along with a few others. very strange!

That happens with certain encoding with certain audio players. VLC in particular has been known to do that with a lot of tracks. I doubt it means anything at all.

[jmtd]

I’m reluctantly going to hold off buying or listening to this until my bird box turns up because I don’t want to diminish my enjoyment if that in any way

Bought it. I figured I would eventually anyway. Haven't listened yet. Maybe I'll hold off listening to BB DE instead. Got a longhaul flight coming up.

[Deadpool]

FYI, for anyone else who is dying to see Waves like me, it opens in wide release next Friday, Dec. 6th.

I love this writer/director's previous films (Krisha, It Comes At Night), so that coupled with Trenticus (not to mention the great reviews and Sterling K. Brown) has me salivating.

I'm reluctantly holding off on listening to the score (which of course isn't so bad with newest Watchmen volume recently released), but everyone's comments here have me VERY excited (and anxious!) to finally hear it.

[botley]

Are we sure that Everything Burns is supposed to end so abruptly? The quick conclusion and transition to the next track feels like such a cock-block...

Yes, intentionally so.

[Senateguard33]

Glad these abrupt endings are intentional. I was getting ready to post asking the same thing.

I LOVE the first track, just wish it were longer!

[eversonpoe]

That happens with certain encoding with certain audio players. VLC in particular has been known to do that with a lot of tracks. I doubt it means anything at all.

i didn't think it meant anything, just weird that it happened to a few of the tracks but not all of them. and it's not like just a few seconds, it's 30-60 extra seconds. been listening on my iPhone.

[Jon]

...been listening on my iPhone.

Trent warned you to turn off your fucking phone.

[jmtd]

Everything Burns (the only track I've listened to so far) reminds me a lot of the Blade Runner 2049 OST.

So much so that I cut over to the BE2049 OST once Everything Burns cut out. (I was snoozing on a plane)

[StockAvuryah]

Everything Burns (the only track I've listened to so far) reminds me a lot of the Blade Runner 2049 OST.

So much so that I cut over to the BE2049 OST once Everything Burns cut out. (I was snoozing on a plane)

Ha. I've been listening to the Blade Runner OST since listening to the Waves soundtrack. Doesn't help that it was November 2019.

[Toadflax]

Ha. I've been listening to the Blade Runner OST since listening to the Waves soundtrack. Doesn't help that it was November 2019.

I’ve been listening to it all month. [emoji6]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191202/d1fcea3bc56046cf72bb96db30d62334.jpg

[jmtd]

haha what's going on there, is that from some kind of "BR experience" event?

A few years ago I narrowly missed out on this and was pretty upset https://www.secretcinema.org/previous-worlds/blade-runner

[Toadflax]

haha what's going on there, is that from some kind of "BR experience" event?

Yeah, since I live in Los Angeles, there were 4 or 5 different Blade Runner themed events going on throughout the month. My girlfriend and I decided it would be fun to go as Roy and Pris for Halloween and then wear our costumes to the other events as well. I won't spam a bunch of photos here, but you can check out instagram.com/toadflax (https://www.instagram.com/toadflax/) for more of our replicantics.

[Horican]

This is the absolute opposite of Watchmen, which I’m loving. Two extremely different releases that are both recognizable as the work of the same people

[Horican]

And also, while all of Trent’s releases are sequenced to flow, this one almost feels like it’s all one track. it’s not different songs cleverly transitioning as much as one sound evolving (or harshly cutting)

[ninlive]

Glad these abrupt endings are intentional. I was getting ready to post asking the same thing.


Same. lol. As I was listening in the car I was like, "wtf."

I am really enjoying this score. Super awesome.

[Reznor2112]

There's a 10.5 minute track, an 11 minute track, and a 22.5 minute track. These motherfuckers went prog.

These motherfuckers went full Eno.

[Prettybrokenspiral]

These motherfuckers went full Eno.

Was just thinking this myself..

If you had told me in 1999 that in 20 years time, we'd have an alternate-universe NIN where Trent (and Atticus) were making epic film scores seemingly in their sleep that mirrored the grand artistic statements of TDS, The Fragile and Year Zero of their day job, I'd have laughed myself silly..

What other musician is releasing such radically different instrumental work in the vein of Vietnam War, Watchmen, Bird Box and Waves in as little as two years' time. I haven't felt this way since discovering Aphex Twin's stuff in '95-'96..

[arsenic]

Waves is now available on Spotify and Apple Music.

I REALLY hope this OST will eventually get a physical release. To me this is by far the most obscure and unsettling soundtrack they've put out so far. I love the fact that it is so different from their previous works and every track is almost timeless, ephemeral and meticulously stretched. I've been listening to it since it came out and a few days ago I had to take a break because it's some really dark and emotionally dense stuff, to the point that it was starting to make me uncomfortable.

Can't wait to see the film.

[Deadpool]

The wide/streaming release took me by surprise! I still haven't listened because I wanna see the film first (which I *finally* am – tonight!!!!), so now my "dilemma" is should I still buy direct from nin.com? Asking because you guys said they embedded each track with individual artwork, right? If so, that rules.

[botley]

The wide/streaming release took me by surprise! I still haven't listened because I wanna see the film first (which I *finally* am – tonight!!!!), so now my "dilemma" is should I still buy direct from nin.com? Asking because you guys said they embedded each track with individual artwork, right? If so, that rules.
Yep, and the FLAC version is also higher quality. Good stuff.

[Toadflax]

Saw the film last night. Really intense emotional experience that you should see in a theater if you can.

As mentioned previously, it's a very music heavy movie, but the score definitely takes a backseat to the use of pre-existing music. I definitely wouldn't expect an 80 minute long score if I had seen the movie first.

[NIN64]

Just got out of the theater. It’s a pretty powerful film. I agree that the score is used sparingly, but that being said it’s effective when it hits. The pre-existing music is used very well. Great movie.

[Bajoobatron]

This really does deserve a physical release. It's fucking amazing.

[gorast]

I do kind of wonder if it'll get one - it feels like a little bit more care was put into this release, what with the individual track art (haven't seen that in a long time) and the wider digital release so quickly after the initial release. The description for it is a lot more glowing than, say, mid90s, which got the same digital-only treatment, too, which makes me think that they liked it a lot and might have bigger plans for it.

Also the fact that this and mid90s are the only Null releases that don't have either a physical release or a hint at one (Patriots Day).

[Jon]

Spoilers and whatnot...

The Annotated Waves Playlist (https://a24films.com/notes/2019/12/the-annotated-waves-playlist) (a24films.com)

[Deadpool]

Wow. This movie floored me. Please see it.

Such a beautiful expression of how we're all touched by tragedy, loss, recovery, joy, repeat.

[zecho]

Just got back from this movie. It was incredible, and everyone should go see it in theaters if they can.

[Deadpool]

Just got back from this movie. It was incredible, and everyone should go see it in theaters if they can.

Agreed. The theater sound mix pummels you in the best way – in a way that home-viewing probably won't recreate in most cases.

I'm still so impressed by the way the Pop Songs were sewn into the Sound Design were sewn into the Score, etc.

I can't help but think Waves is the full realization of what Harmony Korine was trying to do with Spring Breakers (and I say that as a huge fan of that film): seamless integration of all the above elements to create something that obviously transcends music video and simply pushes the motion picture medium forward. It's just bursting with feeling.

[zecho]

Agreed. The theater sound mix pummels you in the best way – in a way that home-viewing probably won't recreate in most cases.

I'm still so impressed by the way the Pop Songs were sewn into the Sound Design were sewn into the Score, etc.

I can't help but think Waves is the full realization of what Harmony Korine was trying to do with Spring Breakers (and I say that as a huge fan of that film): seamless integration of all the above elements to create something that obviously transcends music video and simply pushes the motion picture medium forward. It's just bursting with feeling.

There's a scene in the movie where one of the score drones slowly crackles into a different song (I think a Frank Ocean song, but I can't remember), but it only crackles to life in the right speaker. Then the next scene comes into focus, and the camera is pointing out the side window of a moving car. As it slowly rotates to look in the direction the car is moving in, the song pans around the theater until it's centered. It's wild, and definitely suited for theaters.

[patj825]

has anyone else noticed that several of the MP3s (downloaded directly from the nin.com links) continue past their running time without showing any further time elapsed or remaining? "everything burns" does it, along with a few others. very strange!

Everything burns has a runtime of 1:06. When I changed the artist name tag in iTunes the sing bloats to 2:00+ minutes and, halfway through, it ends (at the 1:06 mark).

[allegate]

has anyone else noticed that several of the MP3s (downloaded directly from the nin.com links) continue past their running time without showing any further time elapsed or remaining? "everything burns" does it, along with a few others. very strange!
huh. ios13 has been doing that with a ton of audio files lately so I figured it was just another bug in the system.

side note: it's really pissing me off because I listen to podcasts and when I skip 15/30 seconds the system has no idea what to do because ios reports one time while the app reports another and it just goes black until the two times coincide again.

[Jon]

huh. ios13 has been doing that with a ton of audio files lately so I figured it was just another bug in the system.

VBR track time has been screwy from day 1, even on programs like foobar and jRiver. What is the bitrate of the nin.com files? I would assume they’re 320 CBR.

[Leprekon666]

It’s up on Apple Music.

[StockAvuryah]

I've really grown accustomed and dove into this soundtrack. Now I think it's one of their best, entirely separately from the film. It doesn't overstays, the subtleties, faint chord changes and long evolving and transforming drones and samples are enough to form a whole, continuous and deep picture.

But I know they got more into them, they can do even better. There are still layers and layers of experiments besides the composition, they're always searching and digging. Unfortunately it's not used to its full potential in the film.

This is currently a major problem with some of their soundtracks, T&A bring a LOT of themselves, they build their own world, and maybe only with Fincher they achieve a kind of complete symbiosis. Music in film is always submitted to the whole piece of art, and it's difficult for both to evolve together and form a perfect union. So on one hand maybe T&A come from a place, music for music itself, that won't necessarily fit with the film, maybe filmmakers asking for their help don't use them at their full potential. Maybe everyone just does their best and the result is the best that could be.

But at least, they do create the best fully-fledged soundtrack they fucking can, and feed from the film to form a soundtrack that stands, alone, as art.

[bobbie solo]

Saw this two days ago. Really enjoyed it (maybe the wrong word considering what a gut punch the movie is). Which is funny, b/c the trailer does NOTHING for this movie and initially i had no interest. Then i saw that Trent was attached & the good reviews it was getting and I then changed my mind. There are some excellent performances here. Everyone in the family shines at some point. Sterling K. Brown is excellent as always. And the technique @zecho (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1086) refers to is done several times in the movie with varying degrees of the music swirling around the theater like the camera is. I think it's really cool to see our boys score intermixed with a song selection otherwise steeped heavily in modern hip hop. Frank Ocean, Sza, Solange, A$AP, Lil Wayne are some that I caught. And the movie's use of Kanye's "I Am A God" is some scary shit.

[botley]

I've really grown accustomed and dove into this soundtrack. Now I think it's one of their best, entirely separately from the film. It doesn't overstays, the subtleties, faint chord changes and long evolving and transforming drones and samples are enough to form a whole, continuous and deep picture.

But I know they got more into them, they can do even better. There are still layers and layers of experiments besides the composition, they're always searching and digging. Unfortunately it's not used to its full potential in the film.

This is currently a major problem with some of their soundtracks, T&A bring a LOT of themselves, they build their own world, and maybe only with Fincher they achieve a kind of complete symbiosis. Music in film is always submitted to the whole piece of art, and it's difficult for both to evolve together and form a perfect union. So on one hand maybe T&A come from a place, music for music itself, that won't necessarily fit with the film, maybe filmmakers asking for their help don't use them at their full potential. Maybe everyone just does their best and the result is the best that could be.

But at least, they do create the best fully-fledged soundtrack they fucking can, and feed from the film to form a soundtrack that stands, alone, as art.
I really think that their music was brilliantly interwoven with the stuff from existing tracks (the Radiohead one particularly felt more lush in the theatre, amid the drones and beats, than it did stuck at the end of Radiohead's last LP stuffed with orchestration). I don't agree that their world-building isn't used to its full potential, here; there was plenty of their original music mixed in amidst all the other information coming at you, just enough to keep it all glued together. Sure, they didn't use all 22 minutes of "Wounds Heal" but I'm glad we got to hear the whole thing in its unedited glory on the soundtrack album.

[zecho]

I really think that their music was brilliantly interwoven with the stuff from existing tracks (the Radiohead one particularly felt more lush in the theatre, amid the drones and beats, than it did stuck at the end of Radiohead's last LP stuffed with orchestration). I don't agree that their world-building isn't used to its full potential, here; there was plenty of their original music mixed in amidst all the other information coming at you, just enough to keep it all glued together. Sure, they didn't use all 22 minutes of "Wounds Heal" but I'm glad we got to hear the whole thing in its unedited glory on the soundtrack album.

You know, I saw so many comments saying that the didn't even notice the score when they saw the movie that I was expecting it to barely be used. Then I saw the movie and it was almost constant through the whole movie. Maybe the movie's just so intense that the you remember the visuals more than the sounds by the end, but I felt like the music was excellently used throughout this movie, specifically how it transitioned to the other artist's songs throughout the movie.

[Jon]

Film out on home video February 4, 2020. 4K UHD option for digital version.

[arsenic]

It looks like it'll be out next week on amazon.com (https://www.amazon.com/Waves-Sterling-K-Brown/dp/B0815QZ5D9)

[BRoswell]

Saw the film this past weekend at the local arthouse theater. While the story was well worn territory, as a purely visceral experience, it was quite a ride. There were also some great song choices to go along with Trent & Atticus' score.

[Lerxto]

I didn't like the movie, especially the song selection besides Trent & Atticus' original score.
All that hip-hop shit, Frank Ocean and Radiohead are not my cup of tea.

[cahernandez]

The movie just came out here in Mexico and holy crap! Such tense movie! I took my hands to my face several times during the film. And great use of the score. I did not expect such crushing experience with a film so vaguely titled. I wonder why it was not heavily nominated during the past awards season? Any of you guys have any idea why it didn't get more recognition?

[Deadpool]

Any of you guys have any idea why it didn't get more recognition?

No idea really! It was and is my favorite movie of 2019. I think it got horribly snubbed. Kelvin Harrison, Jr. (Tyler) in particular blew me away, but he at least got an Indie Spirit Award nomination.

Waves is a profoundly moving film, and if you still haven't seen it, I envy you!

[BRoswell]

While I thought it was good, and Trent & Atticus' work was top notch, I have to admit that it was a fairly melodramatic film that treaded over some well worn territory. My feeling is that people liked it, but didn't absolutely fall in love with it.

[WorzelG]

Has anyone posted this annotated playlist of songs by the director?
https://a24films.com/notes/2019/12/the-annotated-waves-playlist

[Horican]

This is maybe my favorite score by them, and one of the most haunting and profound releases by Trent in any capacity. I wish this had a physical release.

it feels so hermetic, you enter it’s world or you get left out, there are no breathers. It almost negates the film, cause the world of the film is open and full of music, this is otherworldly and closed off.

[muad'nin]

This is maybe my favorite score by them, and one of the most haunting and profound releases by Trent in any capacity. I wish this had a physical release.

it feels so hermetic, you enter it’s world or you get left out, there are no breathers. It almost negates the film, cause the world of the film is open and full of music, this is otherworldly and closed off.

I love this post, so much. Beautifully articulated.