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Jinsai
12-12-2011, 10:35 PM
we put together a music video for a new song we've been working on called Magnetic Boxes, which will probably be on our new EP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDPpLG6IGO0&feature=g-upl

poinoup
12-17-2011, 10:51 AM
Great track dude. I'm still enjoying the albums too. Been passing them on to other people to check out.

When are you looking to release the new EP? Can't wait to hear the rest.

Jinsai
12-18-2011, 09:16 PM
Thanks!

Hopefully we'll have the first EP finished by February, then it just depends on final tweaks and mastering. We've got about 16 or so new songs, but rather than take forever putting together an album we're probably just going to put out a series of short EPs.

Rdm
12-20-2011, 04:05 AM
The new song is really good. The vocals sound great. I really do wish the right person hears you guys one day because your guys are really that good.

Jinsai
04-02-2012, 12:19 AM
The new song is really good. The vocals sound great. I really do wish the right person hears you guys one day because your guys are really that good.

Thanks! The song's been worked on a little bit... it's pretty close to done, along with a handful of others.

here's a new teaser clip we just uploaded:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9oeZik20Os&context=C411947bADvjVQa1PpcFNb05p1Ld3R3VMni78U7xl9 dNFw-V7coF0=

Jinsai
04-26-2012, 11:51 PM
So we've finally gotten the properly organized and tagged versions of the Parallel Policy album tracks uploaded to our site in variable bit rate. These files are from the final master, and we added images from album artwork outtakes to each track. And it's all still free. We've also updated the streaming player on the site so the full album is on there now too, and it should work on mobile devices etc.

http://www.jinsai.net/music/

new stuff coming very soon, along with a west coast tour in July.

YKWYA
04-27-2012, 07:27 AM
Looking good man - I like the videos a lot too.

Jinsai
05-09-2012, 01:59 PM
Thanks!

here's a new video of us running through a live performance of the song 24/05.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBVrnGtW9TU

neorev
05-23-2012, 02:33 PM
Hey, awesome work! Love the videos and vibe. Great stuff.
If there's one thing that I'm lacking, it's some videos
I use an APC40 as well :)
Love that Magnetic Boxes vid, really sets a tone

Jinsai
05-24-2012, 03:06 AM
Hey, awesome work! Love the videos and vibe. Great stuff.
If there's one thing that I'm lacking, it's some videos
I use an APC40 as well :)
Love that Magnetic Boxes vid, really sets a tone

Thanks!

And yeah, the APC 40 is fantastic kit! Do you use custom builds in Max for Live? I've been considering getting into that. I only wish it came with MIDI ports... kinda silly that it doesn't, but nothing's perfect.

BTW, I've been toying around with remixing one of your songs... the one that was 157 bpm. It's hectic sounding at the moment, but fun. Interested to see what you think of the finished tweaking

neorev
05-24-2012, 01:05 PM
Nah, I haven't messed with Max really. But I like to jam with the session view in Ableton to get a basic structure down and record that into the arranger.
Then, I usually edit it and do all the little details by hand.
Lots of Native Instruments VSTs (Battery, Kontact, Reaktor, Massive, FM8) and I use Izotope's Stutter Edit and Ozone for mastering.
Oh, and there's a free FX VST called Glitch by Illformed that's awesome for whacky FXs that I use a lot.

Can't wait to hear what you came up with! When you're finished, send it over. :)

Jinsai
07-07-2012, 03:00 AM
If you're in the Los Angeles area, come out to our show!
Better yet, put yourself on the guest list, and then you'll get into the show for free and we'll get paid. Even if you think you might not be able to come, if you're just considering it, put your name on the list. Email me at james@jinsai.net with your name and the names and email addresses of anyone you think might come along.

We haven't played a show in a long while, and I'm excited about this gig.

https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/531327_10151883802270564_674078408_n.jpg

Trains
07-07-2012, 07:43 AM
I'm there in spirit. Loved the live video of 24/05, somehow I'd missed that when you posted it. Such an intense fucking song, emotionally, musically and lyrically. Love the build-up to the final chorus.

Jinsai
07-13-2012, 07:16 PM
http://youtu.be/EPCjDzJPXjM

first part of the show. Unfortunately we don't think we have video/audio of the rest of it, but it was a good time.

Jinsai
08-22-2012, 12:04 AM
so our album Parallel Policy is now (finally) on Spotify.
Give it a listen, and share the music if you like it.

Space Suicide
08-25-2012, 02:08 AM
Never really checked out your band's stuff. I love it.

Jinsai
09-05-2012, 05:22 PM
new live video of us running through the song Requite

http://youtu.be/jyQLqXYuv0U

Also, if anyone here happens to be in the Los Angeles area, we're playing a show Monday night at a bar in Santa Monica called TRiP.

Jinsai
11-05-2012, 11:55 PM
I barely remember making this NIN remix of Survivalism, but I just dug it up today and thought it was fun, so I thought I should post it

http://soundcloud.com/jinsai/survivalism-jinsai-redux1

Jinsai
07-25-2013, 05:15 AM
so, I need to get some money together to fund the mastering/printing of our next album that we're finishing up, so, we're going to be selling our 2X vinyl 180 gram copies of our album "Parallel Policy" for 10 dollars (+ shipping), and we'll throw in the CD for the next week. There's only a hundred copies of it left.

PM if interested.

edit: PS: side two sounds really nifty on vinyl

Jinsai
12-04-2013, 04:35 PM
new album is done and will be mastered in a couple days. Various changes have prompted us to change the band name. Will have new music to upload soon.

But if anyone wants to buy a CD or a record of the old JINSAI stuff, we finally set up a store on our new band page

www.sirensection.com/store (http://www.sirensection.com/store)

Jinsai
12-07-2013, 02:46 PM
here's the first song from our new album

https://soundcloud.com/sirensection/throwaway

Jinsai
12-17-2013, 04:03 PM
currently planning/hoping to release the new album on February 11th so I'll have something else to celebrate on my birthday.

In the meantime, here's a new song:

https://soundcloud.com/sirensection/tied-to-the-shore

Jinsai
01-15-2014, 08:48 PM
uploaded the first half (side A) of our new album onto soundcloud. feedback appreciated, positive or otherwise

https://soundcloud.com/sirensection/side-a-of-the-album-all-we

currently dealing with all the madness that entails pressing a vinyl record. Forgot how many things go into this process

Jinsai
02-10-2014, 10:12 PM
apparently by clicking this link, you can listen to and/or buy my new album on itunes

https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/all-we-want-all-at-once/id815085541?uo=4

Jinsai
02-18-2014, 07:58 PM
and everything should be on spotify now.

and I'd appreciate all kinds of feedback. If you don't like my music, I'd like to know why. If you think it sucks, I want to know why. If you like it, I'm glad you like it.

Please give it a listen.

and hopefully this will make a direct spotify link Siren Section (http://open.spotify.com/artist/0FM8gnKbiZC86AV2pwJaDF)

eversonpoe
02-19-2014, 12:53 PM
and everything should be on spotify now.

and I'd appreciate all kinds of feedback. If you don't like my music, I'd like to know why. If you think it sucks, I want to know why. If you like it, I'm glad you like it.

Please give it a listen.

and hopefully this will make a direct spotify link Siren Section (http://open.spotify.com/artist/0FM8gnKbiZC86AV2pwJaDF)

if i had spotify, i'd check it out. do you have it up anywhere else?

also, any idea when the vinyl is gonna be ready? you know i'mma want one of those!

Jinsai
02-19-2014, 01:01 PM
if i had spotify, i'd check it out. do you have it up anywhere else?

also, any idea when the vinyl is gonna be ready? you know i'mma want one of those!

I'm going to upload it to bandcamp soon... I need to get off my ass and do that.

The vinyl should be ready soon... hopefully less than two weeks

screwdriver
02-19-2014, 01:53 PM
hey dude -- just listened to side A on soundcloud

really solid tunes; you've got a defined production sound and I think thats really cool. keep up the good work.

elevenism
03-14-2014, 01:49 AM
Heeyyyyyy Jinsai. Great! Loving the droney guitar, the BoC style electronics and video...damn...this kicks ass!

Jinsai
03-26-2014, 11:30 PM
Heeyyyyyy Jinsai. Great! Loving the droney guitar, the BoC style electronics and video...damn...this kicks ass!

Thanks!

Also, our records are done and ready to pick up, so we should be updating our store tomorrow to take orders if anyone wants to buy one!

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eversonpoe
03-27-2014, 12:45 AM
Thanks!

Also, our records are done and ready to pick up, so we should be updating our store tomorrow to take orders if anyone wants to buy one!

yessssssssssss!

elevenism
03-29-2014, 07:25 AM
dude i will absolutely buy one once i have the money, and not just because i know you here. i'm a lifelong musician myself and i don't bullshit people, and man, you got it.

Jinsai
04-01-2014, 11:55 PM
dude i will absolutely buy one once i have the money, and not just because i know you here. i'm a lifelong musician myself and i don't bullshit people, and man, you got it.

Thank you! I really appreciate it.

aaaaaaand, you can now buy our vinyl LP on our website (http://sirensection.com/store) if you're so inclined!
sorry the site isn't the prettiest. I'm not the best at making internets, but it's not an april fools joke.

We should start shipping them out tomorrow

eversonpoe
04-02-2014, 08:48 AM
Thank you! I really appreciate it.

aaaaaaand, you can now buy our vinyl LP on our website (http://sirensection.com/store) if you're so inclined!
sorry the site isn't the prettiest. I'm not the best at making internets, but it's not an april fools joke.

We should start shipping them out tomorrow

as soon as my new credit card statement starts on the 10th, i am buying this puppy.

...now i want a real puppy...

mwt
04-02-2014, 11:44 AM
this music is fantastic, Jinsai. Purchased both albums through amazon mp3. enjoying them thoroughly, especially 24/05!

eversonpoe
04-14-2014, 09:15 AM
just bought the vinyl! can't wait to hear it.

Jinsai
04-18-2014, 09:07 PM
thanks man! I sent out the record today, should get to you soon.

eversonpoe
04-22-2014, 05:23 PM
got my copy today and i have nothing but good things to say about it.

anyone who likes music that blends the organic with the electronic, the upbeat with the melancholy, and the awesome with the awesome should give it a listen!

Jinsai
06-05-2014, 06:07 AM
my new band played our first live show tonight. I might upload a video clip later, but it was a good time. More like a trial run to get the led out, but if you're in the Los Angeles area and want to come out, we're doing a show on thursday, June 26th at the Good Hurt club. Sort of a belated record release / first real live show.

eversonpoe
06-15-2014, 10:09 AM
finally spun your album on vinyl yesterday. sounded PRISTINE. seriously. also, my fiancee really liked it!

Jinsai
06-16-2014, 02:17 PM
Thanks! I'm really happy with how the record cut came out. Kevin Gray is awesome.

also, I put together a quick flyer for our upcoming show, and I liked it, so...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/p403x403/10388600_1486016001634180_6527949303278919426_n.jp g

Anyone in the LA area, come by! I'm currently trying to get the sync'd video stuff to work (anyone who knows about glitching/manipulating video plz send me a message w/ any tips!?)

Jinsai
08-21-2014, 11:24 AM
well, anyone in the Los Angeles area, we're playing our last show in a while tonight 8/21/14 at a club in Glendale called Complex. We get on somewhere from 11 to 11:30, and it's free.

Jinsai
09-02-2014, 03:04 AM
noise and me messing with some loops over guitar loops and other noise, and live video playback during an extended jam session we did, at a club that is sadly now about to close their doors forever.
RIP Good Hurt

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWdwCyzKTGk#t=247

It was a fun night

Jinsai
11-05-2014, 02:01 AM
My submission for my final project at the audio school I was going to (https://soundcloud.com/sirensection/uneasy-words)

It's not perfect, far from it, it's super fucked actually, in a lot of ways... but these are all things I would have fixed if I had more time to work on it. Tuning, timing, all these things... but over time, I've actually started to appreciate it for the flaws. I originally was embarrassed to turn the assignment in. Now, I think it's actually.. not that bad.

Jinsai
01-18-2015, 01:06 AM
The new music I'm working on right now is the best thing I've ever been a part of. I cannot wait till I can show this to people. Very soon.

Jinsai
11-14-2015, 12:20 AM
a new song

https://soundcloud.com/sirensection/chagrin

caca
11-15-2015, 08:47 AM
a new song

https://soundcloud.com/sirensection/chagrin

Wow!!! I'm really digging all of the stuff up on your page. I'm excited to hear more.

Jinsai
11-17-2015, 07:12 AM
I found this on an old hard drive. Not sure I've ever seen it until just now. So weird. I think this is from 2010

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF8bRD2fY0w&feature=youtu.be

Jinsai
11-20-2015, 12:05 AM
more from the archives... this was a live show we played about 5 years ago (I think?) at a venue called "The Church of Truth."
This is the end of our set, right before a party magician took the stage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m6kkKMD0lg&feature=youtu.be

Pillfred
11-20-2015, 01:40 AM
It may be my shitty phone (video fickleness) but I can't seem to view it. Connection to server lost.

Jinsai
11-20-2015, 02:37 AM
It may be my shitty phone (video fickleness) but I can't seem to view it. Connection to server lost.

Hmmmmmmmm... it works for me, but I can upload it to vimeo too? One sec

Jinsai
12-31-2015, 01:18 AM
here's an unmixed version of a new track that I've been working on for a couple months now... I'll dial it in later, but I was happy that it finally seemed to "function" so I impulsively uploaded it. Unmastered and mostly unmixed. Scratch vocals but maybe some of them will stick.

would love any feedback, positive or otherwise
https://soundcloud.com/sirensection/retrofit-double-new-years-remix-now-with-extra-volumes

TheyCallMeDrug
12-31-2015, 04:03 AM
I'm impressed. beat is solid. guitar? melody fits nicely in the beginning. the pacing of your vocals make it sound poppy in a nicely dark way.

i might add more ambient sounds/noise to the verse but you seem to know what you're looking for in pretty much each part and it all fits. maybe some distortion on some of those vocal tracks to add some texture? and the effect at 3:25 sounds overly familiar patch wise. dial in those vocals and it's sounding really nice man. great job!

and this break down at the end could maybe use some heavy bass kicks to send it home? love the pianos tho

Jinsai
12-31-2015, 04:10 AM
I'm impressed. beat is solid. guitar? melody fits nicely in the beginning. the pacing of your vocals make it sound poppy in a nicely dark way.

i might add more ambient sounds/noise to the verse but you seem to know what you're looking for in pretty much each part and it all fits. maybe some distortion on some of those vocal tracks to add some texture? and the effect at 3:25 sounds overly familiar patch wise. dial in those vocals and it's sounding really nice man. great job!

and this break down at the end could maybe use some heavy bass kicks to send it home? love the pianos tho

Thanks! Yeah, the vocals there are all just scratch and taken from the first go... with the goal of listening in the car and practicing to do it better, but I was a little happy with it all so I uploaded. I really appreciate your notes about the repetition at 3:30... I can't hear these things!

Totally on your page about huge kick drum accents though! That's what I've been trying to dial in as I get ready to get some sleep! I've actually been sitting here tweaking the kick drum on my stereo system via Apple TV and wondering when I'll finally get some sleep...
Thank you though :) ... for taking your time to help me out here. I really appreciate it.

TheyCallMeDrug
12-31-2015, 04:12 AM
Thanks! Yeah, the vocals there are all just scratch and taken from the first go... with the goal of listening in the car and practicing to do it better, but I was a little happy with it all so I uploaded. I really appreciate your notes about the repetition at 3:30... I can't hear these things!

Totally on your page about huge kick drum accents though! That's what I've been trying to dial in as I get ready to get some sleep!
Thank you :)

you've really got a knack for layering and its obviously a strength. i'd work on figuring out what makes each layer pop or blend and push it in that direction. Whether it be a simple cymbal pattern or an occasional 808 to drive the point home. Give it a more seamless vibe.

you're pretty much spot on with the beat and have nice potential with the vocals which is something i think a lot of people fail at. it seems like you're really at the polishing/mastering stage. again im really impressed!

Jinsai
01-11-2016, 01:03 AM
new track that I've been working on for a while now... Still not fully tucked away, but it's the first thing I've put together with the new modular rig.
https://soundcloud.com/sirensection/professional-sparkle-pony-racer

Jinsai
02-02-2016, 10:32 PM
been working on this song forever... I don't know if it's "done" but I never want to open the project file again.

https://soundcloud.com/sirensection/professional-sparkle-pony-final-mix

Jinsai
03-08-2016, 02:16 AM
Ok, I need to raise up some cash.

We put a lot of effort and years of time into our last album, I love it dearly... but we have literally sold 2 copies outside of shows. Thank you eversonpoe. I don't know what to do, I'm bad at selling myself. But somebody out there, buy it for five bucks plus shipping? I'm willing to sell it for 5 dollars right now, plus S&H. That's a vinyl record that I slaved over for years + digital copy. Each unit cost me more than that to print.

Thanks, please PM if you're interested.

Jinsai
03-08-2016, 03:48 AM
ok, no cash. Just ask me for a record and I'll send it to you. fuck it. I guess at this point I just need to donate the records or otherwise somehow make space... These records are either getting shipped off or going into the trash.

I'd rather not think about it too much...

eversonpoe
03-08-2016, 07:53 AM
ok, no cash. Just ask me for a record and I'll send it to you. fuck it. I guess at this point I just need to donate the records or otherwise somehow make space... These records are either getting shipped off or going into the trash.

I'd rather not think about it too much...

i know, the feeling, dude. my band has SO MANY copies of our first album on vinyl left, which is why we're pressing our new album on cassette (cheaper, less space, and stupid but still offers a physical product).

that said, your album is FANTASTIC and there is definitely an audience out there for it. remind people of it on facebook, make a little promo video of some kind, ask your bandmates to push it, too. do not throw it away. please.

Jinsai
03-08-2016, 01:06 PM
well, I've updated the store on my site. Vinyl copies are five bucks (plus shipping). Ignore the part where it says domestic shipping only. I'll ship international.

http://sirensection.com/store

Oh yeah, and I had to go back and check who bought the other copy.. thanks @Rdm (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=102)
Sorry bout that. You'd think with only two copies sold I'd remember who bought both of them. My brain is falling apart.

Jinsai
07-15-2016, 12:53 AM
Here's a demo of a new song I just came close to finishing.... I love it, I would love to hear what you think.
https://soundcloud.com/sirensection/can-you-hear-me-now-demo

eversonpoe
07-15-2016, 07:25 AM
Here's a demo of a new song I just came close to finishing.... I love it, I would love to hear what you think.
https://soundcloud.com/sirensection/can-you-hear-me-now-demo

this feels like your version of a telefon tel aviv song, but mixed with something darker then they ever did, and i LOVE IT. please finish it.

Jinsai
07-15-2016, 07:00 PM
this feels like your version of a telefon tel aviv song, but mixed with something darker then they ever did, and i LOVE IT. please finish it.

WOW! Thank you!

I've been throwing together an album that I will hopefully be finishing off soon. Almost everything on that track (except the guitar and vocals) is modular synth stuff. I've been thinking it would be a good exercise to throw something together that works almost exclusively in that realm.

If I stick to my time table it should be done in a month? Here's hoping :)

Rdm
07-15-2016, 10:04 PM
I enjoyed it, the production sounds great.

Are you guys keeping the vocals low? Either way I like it

Jinsai
07-16-2016, 06:12 AM
I enjoyed it, the production sounds great.

Are you guys keeping the vocals low? Either way I like it

The vocals will be brought up a bit in the final version probably... these were scratch vocals. I literally sang them in one take into my laptop microphone... though I kind of like the tinny quality of the recording, so I think I'll do a blend when I do a proper recording with a good microphone...

I guess I also tend to mix my vocals low... but they'll be brought up a bit probably when it comes to the final mix. Thanks for the listenings :)

Jinsai
07-29-2016, 07:31 PM
Uploaded a new track! For some reason the upload seems to have a boost in the sun frequencies, so if you're listening on a big system you might want to pull down the lows a bit?

https://soundcloud.com/sirensection/ground-descending-master-5

cashpiles (closed)
07-29-2016, 08:05 PM
dnuorG I Ground Descending, Tied To The Shore and throwaway... Out of the batch of songs on the first page. I've only listened to about 6 or 7.

Jinsai
07-30-2016, 12:18 AM
I can't get into why, but if anyone reading this could click play for a few seconds on that new track there, if only for a moment, and then hit like shortly afterwards, you'd be doing me a fucking huge favor.

On a side note, I also hope you like the song enough to keep listening :)

eversonpoe
07-30-2016, 05:23 PM
Uploaded a new track! For some reason the upload seems to have a boost in the sun frequencies, so if you're listening on a big system you might want to pull down the lows a bit?

https://soundcloud.com/sirensection/ground-descending-master-5

this might be my favorite song of yours i've heard

elevenism
07-30-2016, 05:27 PM
New track is lovely @Jinsai (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=272)

it has such presence.
you have to like "work," like listen to the buildup to be rewarded with the beautiful groove and vocal.

It reminds me of that old saying "Play twice before listening."

"in the aftermath of us..."
yes it goes hard n a motherfucker.

Jinsai
08-04-2016, 05:46 AM
thanks for the nice comments! We have a mix that's a lot better but I don't want to kill off the soundcloud link, especially since it seems an internet radio site has put us in their rankings! We peaked at #8 or 7 I think, but we've slid down to 20 at the moment.
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But if you wanted to do us a solid, send a traffic through their portal and click the star!

We're going to upload a new track on Friday that I'm both excited and weirded out about. It's the poppiest thing we've ever done, but I still like it. I'm manicuring the edges... weird new wave revival noise pop. Never thought that would be a thing I'd say.

I also have a giant load of solo ambient and glitchy electronic stuff I'm planning to upload, along with a bunch of modular jams. Just not sure where to put it. I figure the sound cloud is probably fine... though it might be confusing. But I bit the bullet and bought the unlimited sound cloud account, so I can just upload whatever I want now.... I guess I'll just be flooding my soundcloud page with random shit for a while. Hopefully there's something in there.

Jinsai
08-05-2016, 02:53 PM
we uploaded a new song! Pretty happy with this one... more weird noisy bizarre synth pop.

diplomacy (https://soundcloud.com/sirensection/diplomacy?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=facebook)

Jinsai
09-05-2016, 01:26 AM
I'm quite excited about this song... private sound cloud link to the instrumental version, which I will probably be taking offline soon

https://soundcloud.com/sirensection/new-disconnnect-instrumental

Jinsai
10-30-2016, 02:48 PM
I just finished a remix for the soundtrack to a horror movie about a murderous ventriloquist doll! It's crunchy and a little lo-fi, but it's the first "industrial" track I've put together in a while. Check it out, and the soundtrack too if you're into retro-analogue synth horror scores. Good music to throw for Halloween tomorrow.

https://sergeantsawtooth.bandcamp.com/track/bloody-little-footprints-siren-section-remix

Jinsai
01-10-2017, 10:43 AM
edit: so, according to a friend of mine, it's unwise to state that you're going to donate to a charity? donate to the ACLU (https://action.aclu.org/secure/sem-become-freedom-fighter-join-aclu?s_src=UNW170001SEM&alt_src=UNV170001SEM&ms=gad_SEM_Google_Search-Evergreen-ACLU%20Brand_ACLU%20Name%20Terms_the%20aclu_p_1697 10878869)

Jinsai
02-21-2017, 02:47 PM
another horror movie remix! The soundtrack to Meathook Massacre 2 (https://sergeantsawtooth.bandcamp.com/album/meathook-massacre-2-original-score-by-rob-robinson) is available today on CD/Download, with our Siren Section remix (https://sergeantsawtooth.bandcamp.com/track/chase-siren-section-remix) on it. Spooky retro-synth horror music.

Jinsai
06-19-2017, 10:43 PM
here comes the midnight sun

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/19250410_10158844171205564_6844389861130734753_o.j pg?oh=5445e102178a08a9e6810300ccba824f&oe=59E089B6

Jinsai
07-30-2017, 12:20 AM
https://www.facebook.com/sirensectionband/videos/1978690032366772/?hc_ref=ARQ2NcLtev62KaWb6_UnkvjUb1GdcpoOhRMqn4QPBn MmF0r9EtnPcOm1CDBHZKix2w8

Jinsai
08-06-2017, 09:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_Oe8KsUYlg&feature=youtu.be

Jinsai
09-25-2017, 04:20 AM
a clip from from tonight's ambient modular performance... the first time I've gone up in front of a crowd without a computer/laptop in front of me in about twenty years.

People were mostly stoked!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZc27GdF-AH/?hl=en&taken-by=psychic_health

Jinsai
10-20-2017, 10:47 PM
our new album comes out on Tuesday! Here's a positive write-up, with a link to our music video for Ground Descending!

http://la.thedelimagazine.com/32421/siren-section-release-video-for-ground-descending-new-album-out-1024

caca
10-22-2017, 10:23 PM
I haven’t posted in here nearly enough, but I thoroughly enjoy your music, man. I’ll be grabbing this on Tuesday.

Jinsai
10-24-2017, 06:50 PM
Thanks @caca (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1098)!
the album is now available to purchase or stream for free on Bandcamp!
https://sirensection.bandcamp.com/

poinoup
08-02-2018, 02:20 PM
Huge bump.

I was listening to "Parallel Policy" today for the first time in a long time. Man, do I love that album.

Jinsai
08-20-2020, 04:56 PM
https://soundcloud.com/johnnydowling/carry-throughwav

eversonpoe
08-20-2020, 11:06 PM
https://soundcloud.com/johnnydowling/carry-throughwav

this is fucking incredible. my favorite thing you've done (that i've heard) by far.

Jinsai
08-22-2020, 11:00 AM
this is fucking incredible. my favorite thing you've done (that i've heard) by far.

I personally can't take credit for that demo, it was written and put together by the other guy in the band... but hopefully we'll have a chance to work together on it in the future. I really like it, and even if it's a "demo," it works as-is I think.

poinoup
09-08-2020, 12:49 AM
1) Sounds awesome! I wish I had 1/1000th the talent of you guys. I screw around in FL for fun, but this is amazing.

2) Weird request, Mr. Jinsai, but do you happen to have the lyrics available for Parallel Policy? Those lower mixed vocals have me confused in some parts (nothing wrong with them mixed way!)

3) I showed my friend a few songs last week, and he's deeply in love with "Code" already. I've trained him well.

Jinsai
09-08-2020, 12:07 PM
2) Weird request, Mr. Jinsai, but do you happen to have the lyrics available for Parallel Policy? Those lower mixed vocals have me confused in some parts (nothing wrong with them mixed way!)

3) I showed my friend a few songs last week, and he's deeply in love with "Code" already. I've trained him well.

Thank you! We really did almost drive ourselves crazy there working on that album, and it really means an immense amount to hear that people like it.
Yes, I could put the lyrics up here... we did mix the vocals a little low, which was intentional, but I probably should have made it more audible... One sec. This is from memory, but should be correct ;)
weirdly... I just went online to check a lyric vs my memory, and it seems the album is no longer on Spotify, which makes no sense to me. So I guess it's nowhere online now, and someone on Amazon is trying to sell a CD copy for 45 bucks... if they actually sell that, they'll have made more money from my music than I ever have.

UNDER THE SKIN:

We'll cut you down to size
We'll cut you, cut you down to size.
We're gonna take you under the skin (you aren't watching)
Did they creep up from behind, did they take you by surprise
from behind, from behind, did they cut you down to size?
-
Let's end this well
we might as well

HELLO CASHMERE:

So when you go and break your lease and leave us waiting
The lines of gold surround your seas in desperation
But how long, now you're older
Enough to share the blame
I'm released by your excuse
still I'd feel safer in a cage

You know your home was always at my place
A room of static around the edges
Repeat in silence, 'avoid the windows'
-
A little bit of restraint
it goes a long long way
It feels as fake
still it goes a long long way
I would feel safer in a cage.

THE BODY POLITIC:

and we stop to the sound of your starting gun
stuck in motion on the threshold of some un-winnable race
I bet you flinch
I'm sure you blame somebody else
Cuz you're the same in some way, you're the same in so many ways
You're entitled to think that
and all our difference aside
We share that frame of reference so you've got nothing to hide
Our silence is good for you
This frame of reference is good for two
Our logic is bulletproof
We could be so good for you
We should add up
You could be good for us too
We should add us up
-
I know you so well I get scared around you
Cuz we're the same in some way
We're the same in so many ways

And if we're atheists in foxholes we better hang on for survival
You'll never know what hit you

24/05:

You want a second opinion
Well the water's fine once you jump on in
You get sick of the ocean
and if you're trying to sink you gotta think not to swim
you could learn it from me
just like I learned it from you back in school
who you gonna believe?
You or me
Well it's up to you

You could have had it so good
and then it went out of style like you said it would
You never know what you want
You never know where you are when the lights are low

aaaaaand if it rubs you wrong it rubs off on you
whatever rubs you wrong

Just like it always was
Just like it was when I wasn't awake
I'm on your... I'm on your side

Here's the keys to the city
But you better watch what you're wishing for
Because it's not like it seems
all these dreams are rotten to the core

You could have had it so good
You would have folded your hand if you'd understood
And if you're turning to me
I've got a surprise or two left in store for you

Just like it always was
Just like it was when I wasn't awake
I'm on your side
It's not like it was when I wasn't awake
You're shaking hands I'm saving face

REQUITE:

Just keep insisting that you're winning
Show no sign of fear
For all your kicking you're so quick to running
Soon you're running out of here
I'm a magnet, I'll attract this, I will bring this to my door
You fool me once, and shame on you
Now I never leave my home

At least they'll want us back after all you've done

At least they'll want us back, I know they'll want us back, they've got to want us back after all you've done
It felt so good to have a home
where we belong

CONSTITUERIT:

Just put your stethoscope to safe
and press your face against this cold divider
There's a line that separates the bad looks in the mirror
We're both so great and we just talk about it
but it's not enough
Don't let me let you hype it up if it lets you down

CODE:

I've been waiting longer than you know
I've been pacing
sleeping in my clothes
Just when the engines hum to carry you away
I'll think of what to say
Just when the angels run to carry you away
I'll break it to you easy, and it'll keep you awake
It should keep you awake
It keeps me awake, it keeps me watching

I know what to say when words get in the way
And the sentiment is overdue but it still holds true today
At least it'll mean the same thing or something

Somewhere, some way, in another home, in some different place
You'll be counting mistakes
I'll be waiting, waiting for the day I'll waste another day
While it keeps you awake
And it should keep you awake
Cuz it keeps me awake

The more you sleep the more I rise
The more I think the more I compromise
Dot another "I"
and It'll keep you awake
it keeps me awake

I know what to say when words get in the way
And the sentiment is overdue but it still holds true today
At least it'll mean the same thing and no one can complain
At least it'll mean the same thing or something

Before you speak, before you try, before you even dot another "i"
I will correct you
because I love you

SIGNATURE:

and I thought about the waiver you signed but never should
watch that pound of flesh goes overdraft and six more pints of blood is not enough
And I thought you were misguided
I watched you place your trust in the ones that left you waiting around for your chains to rust
is it long enough
and how's it lining up
Don't let me let you hype it up if it lets you down
I thought i'd burn you out
If I thought I'd burn you out
Before you had enough
Don't let me let you hype it up if it lets you down

ENTROPY:

And I'm not sure why I'm staying
I'm sure you can relate
So I'm calm collect and well equipped to wipe that smirk right off your face
My eye's too quick to catch
all the sickness in your smile
I wear my habitat and let the details pass me by
-
A little bit of restraint
It goes a long long way
it feels as fake, but still it goes a long long way
-
It was an accident, it was unfortunate
but you should be ashamed by your indifference
-
I can't be bothered by the rain, I can't be bothered by anything
And it might seem real to me
It might seem real, we'll see
-
I bet you know yourself well
I bet you wear yourself so well
You wear yourself so well
But I don't need so I don't ask
And I won't wear that side of me
Lie to me so I won't ask
And I won't wear a side of me
I don't need so I won't ask
-
It was an accident, it was unfortunate
And you should be ashamed but you're indifferent

I USED TO WORK HERE:

all the "vocals" in this were ripped from youtube clips

PERSISTENCE:

You've got some time before you follow through
Then you'll know just what you're supposed to do
and why you have to choose between the son of god
and a human being
it makes you laugh, and I don't know why
I get reduced to this
you'll get used to it
we've got time
Before all your hopes get run down by your progress
and all your dreams get killed off by persistence
we've got time before
follow through
we've got time
I'm with you, alone with you

GRACE IN YOUR STEP:

I was writing this down to meet you
Take that any way you want to I don't mind
Even if it only finds you half way, fine
Soon we will remember everything in time that we'll forget
I bet
We'll see it burn down in your eyes
Like burning buildings in your eyes
You could wear it like a war wound
you could so why don't you

There's a grace in my step and I'm so full of shit
You could bust my tooth right through my lip
I'd keep on smiling
I'd wear the threads I tore from all the clothes we've worn
tangled and conformed till you're part of it
let you rue the day you let that slip away and you let that mean the same thing
that I'd forgotten
Just place these bets on me and my sorry company
Our enemies won't see us where we're going
You could let it mean the same thing I'd forgotten
Let it mean the same thing I'd forgot
-
We will creep up from behind.
We will take you by surprise
we will cut you down to size

poinoup
09-09-2020, 12:28 AM
Thank you, sir, for the lyrics. I can get most of them through my cheapo Sonys, but at least you know how to mix the vocals proper, unlike a certain Pumpkin...

Yeah, he was saying he loves the vocals "because they're chill and yet energetic at the same time". I've had a few people actually double take when I tell them it's by a dude from a NIN message board, which is hilarious. I went back to listen to The Body Politic yesterday after I posted, and I just love the transition into the mellowness of the "I know you so well" coda?

(Would that be considered a coda?)

Also, someone may or may not have just thrown ya some money for New Disconnect. Gotta grab the other one after I engulf myself in this one.

Jinsai
09-09-2020, 10:20 AM
thank you! New Disconnect is my favorite of the albums we've done, but that might be because it's the newest. Hope you like it!

The next project I've been putting together probably won't have any vocals at all in the traditional sense. Will probably be more glitchy and electronic / ambient. I'm really not sure where it's going, but I'm at least determined to finish it without overthinking it, so hopefully it won't take me years to complete ;)

I'm probably going to take all the music off Spotify (not much point for the hosting cost via Tunecore) so I think everything will just migrate to the Bandcamp page soon.

poinoup
09-09-2020, 11:11 PM
No problem, my man! This gets a good listen over the weekend. Can't wait to soak er in!

poinoup
09-17-2020, 12:03 PM
Alrighty, after too many delays I am diving in this morning!

poinoup
09-17-2020, 03:22 PM
Apologies for the length of this post in advance. Every...every time I tried to sit down and get this sucker listened to, my phone would ring 4 songs in. But we got er done, finally. Buckle up, dude. None of this is blowing smoke up your ass, and if you hate any of the bands I compare this to, I also apologize in advance. As a guy who would sweat over the right track order on mixtapes/CDs, this is an ideal sequence.

Diplomacy: Big chorus, right out of the gate. Sets up the album perfectly. Vocals remind me of 24/05. Actually, that chorus feels like a slower chorus from that song. There's plenty going on in under three minutes. Great harmony vocals just audible in the mix on headphones. That chorus grabbed me immediately and made me anticipate what was ahead.

Ground Descending: Huge, HUGE Depeche Mode vibe from this sucker. Those synths are brought to the forefront and pulled back at just the right times. The "I won't let you breathe too much..." hook is tremendous. DM is one of my favorite bands, so this brought a smile to my face, legit.

June Future: Layers, so many layers. Vocals remind me a bit of Matt Talbot of Hum. Awesome use of transitions in the song, you never know what part is coming next. The "No!" vocal effect is one of those nuances that makes music music. That chorus is perfect pop rock.

Can You Hear Me Now: I've noticed on Parallel Policy and New Disconnect that you are able to make a basic 4/4 beat have distinct little touches to separate them from just a preset. Hopefully that makes sense. What's the effect's name for the "vocals through a telephone"? I've always loved that. I've never heard commercial jingles sung in this way. Vocals are so, so chill.

Lemming Jump: Again, it sounds so, so simple. The "glitches" are there at just the right times again, and not overstaying their welcomes. There's that 4/4 small effect again.

Santa Cruz: Dat intro. You know the feeling of getting good and stoned and you and the song feel like the only things in the universe? The cliched (but in a good way) epic after the interlude. There's also a lot going on here. It just keeps changing. Instrumental breaks just build in intensity, yet remain at a simmer. The "Code" of the album, the long one that really draws you in. Dat synth solo, goddamn. Simple piano outro, never a bad thing.

Yes All of the Time: Didn't see the acoustic coming at all. Bright, with rich sounding strings on that guitar. There's never anything wrong with simple strings, an acoustic and singing. Are you doing the harmonies? They're set just right in the mix. Also, didn't see the horns coming. Crazy synth solo last song, and horns here. Experimenting is always fun! The extended outro will always get a thumbs up from me, brings the song and energy down to prep you for...

Here Comes the Midnight Sun: Aphex-y. Yeah, I said it. Bit of Squarepusher in there, as well. Great tone on the synths. Layers, so many layers, again. It's "busy", but you're able to pick out specific instruments in the mix with a little concentration. It's the little things, like that guitar(?) part from 1:54 to 1:59. Lots of energy in this track, and it's always fun to slowly drop each track out, regardless of how many used.

New Disconnect: Has that "big-time final track" intro. The "chimes" in the intro are a standout. Is that marimba, or a sample? Again, it's a nice little touch. I'm also a sucker for outros like that. Just enough boiling under the surface to tie the album together.

Anyone else reading this thread, check this stuff out. I'm kicking myself in the ass for not getting this off you sooner. Totally worth the money! Keep this up!

(Phew)

Jinsai
09-21-2020, 09:52 AM
What's the effect's name for the "vocals through a telephone"?

Actually generally called a telephone effect. There's various ways to pull it off w/ EQ and distortion. "The King's Microphone" by Waves is a great go-to for that sort of tone. In that song though, I actually sang the vocals into my laptop microphone... originally was intended to just be a scratch take, and none of the ones done on a proper microphone sounded better to me.


Here Comes the Midnight Sun: Aphex-y. Yeah, I said it. Bit of Squarepusher in there, as well. Great tone on the synths. Layers, so many layers, again. It's "busy", but you're able to pick out specific instruments in the mix with a little concentration. It's the little things, like that guitar(?) part from 1:54 to 1:59. Lots of energy in this track, and it's always fun to slowly drop each track out, regardless of how many used.

Fun strange thing, that song started out as a weird, misguided remix of Mozart's symphony 25. If I unmute the track, it sounds so bizarre... Ultimately probably spent more time messing with this one than anything else. Took months of tweaking to get it "right."


The "chimes" in the intro are a standout. Is that marimba, or a sample? That was made with a plugin synth, I think it might have been put together with Massive or Razor.


Keep this up!

I hope to make something like it again, everything has been crazy w/ the pandemic regarding collaborative music making. I'm putting together some electronic stuff though, and I'm happy with most of it ;)

We also made this record a while ago if you wanted to check it out! https://sirensection.bandcamp.com/album/all-we-want-all-at-once
Random side note, that album was mastered by Tom Baker, who did the mastering on The Downward Spiral, Broken (most NIN stuff actually, now that I'm looking), the Prick self titled album, and he is generally a badass. We attended the session with him, and he's a genius. Super nice guy too.

poinoup
09-22-2020, 03:26 AM
I went for a good stroll to the pot shop after work and gave this another listen. I'm probably going to end up pestering you for the lyrics again. That "timing out my cigarettes, to not quite make a chain" line is AMAZING. I'm still really digging this sucker.

Diplomacy and Ground Descending are a great 1-2 for starting the stroll down to the dispensary. I have definitely had Ground in my head the past few days. I'm going to grab that other album next week. Expect another long winded review.

The Baker connection is awesome, experiencing it with him is even more over the top. Hopefully, you told the rest about my acclaim for it, they've done well.

Jinsai
09-22-2020, 11:34 AM
Hopefully, you told the rest about my acclaim for it, they've done well.


it's been... a crazy time. I sent John the things you said on here, and I think he appreciates it. He doesn't really have time to work on stuff right now.

My favorite lyric we ever came up with together was that thing on Parallel Policy, "put your stethoscope to safe and press your face against this cold divider"
That was my favorite moment of "collaborative lyric writing." Tom Baker also mastered Parallel Policy btw.

And why not, I have nothing to do today... I'll write up the lyrics for the other albums. I really shouldn't have masked them as much as I did.

Jinsai
09-22-2020, 12:35 PM
so, for New Disconnect...

DIPLOMACY

so nice to meet you
so glad you were never caught
hiding out from the animals
you were lost but now you're not

I could make that up to you
If it's the last thing that I do

You were lost at sea, making enemies
No matter what you need
I'll help you figure it out
And if you're losing sleep
Tell me about your dreams
I'll tell you what they mean
I'll help you figure it out

And if it's just outside your reach
It's gonna keep you guessing
And you could ask for everything
Cuz I can make things happen

and I could make that up for you
It's just as boring as the truth

Cuz if it's just outside your reach
It's gonna keep you guessing
You could ask for everything
Cuz I can make things happen
And if you're not sure what that means
It could be what you're missing
You could ask for anything
I can make things happen

GROUND DESCENDING

And it comes down to this
Retrofitted in your fist
Same old place
new sheet of paint
and it's the same but fake

they'll hold a camera to my throat

And it's like destiny
Coming in from the cold
Why was I so off?
This could be our great escape

I won't let you breathe too much
I don't need too much
In the aftermath of us
Let you breathe too much
I don't need too much
in the aftermath of us

Make the same mistake
Make no mistake

Why was I sold off?
This could be our great escape

I won't let you breathe too much
I don't need too much
In the aftermath of us

You'll make the same mistake

JUNE FUTURE

The shrine to elegant failure is a drop in the ocean
Gather all good intentions for the june of the future
Ambivalence runs thin, to think it must be love
Guarantees undone

We're a symptom of a system that failed as the oxygen runs out
I've been running a race with both my eyes closed

I've been counting on useless information
Giving up is easy if you try
So I don't try

We're a symptom of a system that failed as the oxygen runs out
I've been running a race with both my eyes closed

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW

...actually, I can't stand the way these lyrics look in print. LOL


SANTA CRUZ

I drove down from Santa Cruz in the dark of heavy rain
Timing out my cigarettes to not quite make a chain
When the guy who called that night to lock the library doors
You were on the balcony wrapped in ancient clothes

I won't stay up all night

Either way you look at it, either way you lose
I hate to be the bearer of such complicated news
either way you look at it, really what's the use
to wonder if that tourniquet could double as a noose
for now

I think too much
so I stay up till I shut down all the time
Think too much
I stay up or I shut down all the talk

YES ALL OF THE TIME

Always thought you'd save us all
From choices culled from "or and either"
But did you really have a choice
When all you wanted was neither

Stars stand out only in the moments that they fall

But isn't it right to be upside down?
Building a house while the plans mean nothing
To be like the ones who say "yes" all of the time
To be like the ones to impress all of the time
Be like the ones whose regrets aren't heavy
They have replaced all the ones they're missing

Isn't it right to feel upside down?
Building a house while the plans mean nothing
To be like the ones who say "yes" all of the time
To be like the ones to impress all of the time
To be like the ones whose regrets aren't heavy
They have replaced all the ones they're missing

NEW DISCONNECT

You're a sympathetic victim sticking it to the system
Nobody can call your bluff or say you didn't try
I'm a reasonable hitman
Running out of options
I need a better reason or someone's gonna die

It's you and me
and the big machine that doesn't know our names
Take a side
So can I

It's you and me and the big machine
it doesn't know our names
take a side
so can I
that isn't how things change
and I won't be held responsible
I won't be to blame

For you and all your messed up kids
Asleep on the grid
Sleep on the grid

poinoup
09-23-2020, 12:45 PM
Thanks again for the lyrics, dude. The vocals aren't masked too much in decent headphones, there's just those certain lines that have me listening deeper and deeper, more focused.

Like it was "sold off" in Ground Descending. And it's "up all night", I thought it might be "out all night".

How many peeps worked on the project? I know the 24/05 performance video has three of you in it.

Jinsai
09-23-2020, 01:33 PM
]Like it was "sold off" in Ground Descending. And it's "up all night", I thought it might be "out all night".
How many peeps worked on the project? I know the 24/05 performance video has three of you in it.

With the Siren Section stuff, it's mainly just the two of us. Originally the band Jinsai was four of us, with a friend playing trumpet and some synths/piano and another on bass... he still jumped in to add some trumpet to "can you hear me now" and "yes all of the time," but he lives out of state now so we don't get many opportunities to work together. . There was a little bit of bass guitar on the album, but it's mostly electronic on the Siren Section songs.

In Ground Descending, we toggled between "sold off" and "so off." I think we sang it both ways ultimately on the final cut. I'd have to go back to the multitrack mix and solo check... I probably was over thinking it. The other lyric definitely is "up all night." It's funny to think back on it and go through it all again. I'm actually really enjoying this trip down memory lane, and it's weird because we never really played the songs from New Disconnect live, so we didn't really practice them after recording the album. We played some short concept version of the song New Disconnect, but I think that's it. Hopefully one day we'll do that... I think it'd be a great project to try to play the album live in sequence.

poinoup
09-24-2020, 12:59 AM
I was totally digging the trumpet on "Yes...", not only did the acoustic catch me off guard, that joining in was mmm mmm good. It would be a great to this live in sequence, too. I find both this and Parallel Policy's flow excellently.

I'm grabbing "all we want..." next week. There will probably be some more memories coming up. And another thesis essay on the songs. I'm trying to push a few of the songs on people, especially "Ground Descending". If they want something "damn catchy", I'll givem that.

poinoup
10-16-2020, 01:30 PM
OK, let's do this:

Throwaway - Intro tease into that riff that immediately grabs you. I like the slight harmonic vocals fighting for attention through the fuzz. Once again, you guys are tremendous at the loud/quiet dynamic.

Mobil Spa Gift Basket - Distorted synths remind me of Fuck Buttons. Didn't expect the heavy distorted vocals, but effects on the voice are always fun. More guitar on this album than New Disconnect it appears. Layering is stellar as well, there's a lot going on during the verses behind the vocals. "It feels right to be alone" immediately reminds me of "It felt so good to have a home" from "Requite". I'm not sure if that's intentional or not, but that's where my brain went. Damn fun track.

Climbing Fences -"June Future"-like chillness. Is "Electogaze" a thing? The chorus is a perfect example if so. Vocals are more out front, as compared to them feeling like another instrument in the mix, helping the track stand out.

Focus - Isn't it amazing how some simple piano adds so much to a song? Another one where the synths give me a Fuck Buttons feel. Then the contrast of the mellow vocals on top. These's those brief high synth notes in the mix that are just wonderful. There's that easy loud/soft transition again. Guitar solo over the synth breakdown, nice. That could easily be improvised over to keep you on your toes. The last 2 minutes or so has that "final track on the album" feel, the one to tie it up nicely, and we're only four songs in. The cassette tape outro is another favorite of mine. I've tried to work it into my amateur attemps at making music in FL.

Pull Over - A moment to catch your breath after 7 minutes, but it still has that uncomfortable vibe to it to keep you listening.

Fullstop - Here we go. Big time later era Mortiis from this one. Two minutes of audio anarchy to prep you for Magnetic Boxes. Heavy vocals and glitching layers. It helps to have Tom Baker mastering these layers, eh? :)

Magnetic Boxes - I remember this one from the YouTube channel, and still dig it. It doesn't feel like 2:15 has passed when the vocals kick in, shows the flow of the track. Vocals and guitar mix together perfectly in the choruses. I've noticed this album has a bit more verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge/chorus structure than New Disconnect. ND has more of a freeflow feel throughout. This track breezes by for being 6:20, and bringing in those brief lighter synth notes around 0:57 back into the outro, just slightly in the mix, is another nice little nuance.

Tied to the Shore - You two also know when to drop a minor glitchy part. Chorus is poppy, but in a good way. If something is catchy, I'll tell ya, regardless on genre. You said the vocals were mixed lower on purpose agian here, correct? This is one of the best examples on the album for them placed in there at just the right levels. Even the loud-ish to slower section has some distortion and that heavy drum loop.

Bad Advice - This is where a lot of bands fail. The penultimate track needs to be this insane ass crazy heavy motherfucker, or a mellow interlude to prepare you for that final track. Two minutes of relaxing piano and laid back vocals.

Whiteout - It's time. The "epic", even though "Focus" and "Magnetic Boxes" could also fill that role. Just enough going on behind the vocals and piano, which sounds great on better headphones. When it hits the next level around 1:40, hells yeah. "Don't wear out your welcome/from so far away", there's another strong lyric. The dichotomy of a lot of these tracks with distortion/fuzz/glitchiness vs mellow vocals/relaxing piano is really on display. The outro of this is another one of those little things that I always loved about ending tracks, the dropping out of all other instruments and sounds so just a lone piano/keyboard remains.

Whew, once again.

(Apologies if you're not a fan of Fuck Buttons or Mortiis. There's a lot of Mortiis' "The Smell of Rain" and "The Grudge" I can hear similarities to, and "Rain" is one of my favorite albums of all time)

eversonpoe
10-16-2020, 03:40 PM
^^^ man i wish someone was this into my music haha

glad to know there are folks like you poinoup who love independent music enough to talk to its creator about it so enthusiastically.

poinoup
10-18-2020, 03:17 PM
When I get some time, I will gladly check yours out!

Jinsai
11-18-2020, 08:48 AM
In a lot of ways, I'm terrible at saying thank you, but I've really wanted to say that @poinoup (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=436). It really does mean more than I can express.

I had this chunk of music I was going through and planning on "releasing," but my computer failed. Really... No idea how long that's gonna take, or if it's even possible to recover, or even if I do if I'll really "release" any of it. I feel like I need a fresh start on making music.

I'm gonna cheer myself up and buy a superfast super badass new mac.

poinoup
11-19-2020, 12:07 AM
Not a problem, my man! I know what kind of tunes I like, and I'm digging this a lot. It's good to know that in this year of bullshit you can have some random Canadian consume your tunes and enjoy them, and in return it makes the artist feel better as well about their work.

Being able to converse with the artist is also am advantage. Hell, I've been here since 2007 and you're one of the few to stand out and give me some incredible laughs on here, which I've needed some days.

And getting pretty rare vinyls is pretty awesome as well. Thank you once again for those! Now to get New Disconnect pressed, haha.

Jinsai
03-18-2021, 05:46 PM
I found a random thing! You might need to have Facebook to see it

https://www.facebook.com/250545372211731/videos/551450888610984

poinoup
03-25-2021, 06:28 AM
There's more wires there than in my apartment, haha.

Jinsai
03-25-2021, 04:46 PM
There's more wires there than in my apartment, haha.

Haha! It's a tiny rig for the live gig there. That was an improvised set, and it turned out to be the last thing that I've done I guess. It got a lot noisier and crazier towards the end, but I think I've lost all the recordings of that.
BTW, I will come back and get the lyrics to that album all printed up!

I hope to have some new layout w/ all my gear soon, or else I'm just gonna need to start selling things... and that would be really unfortunate, because the real-ultimate-power I have going as far as synthesizers/drum machines go at this point is just unreal, and I haven't had a way to really put it all together and make it realistically usable yet for recording. Hopefully soon!

Jinsai
04-03-2021, 11:37 PM
these are (I think) the lyrics to All We Want All At Once
https://sirensection.bandcamp.com/album/all-we-want-all-at-once

Throwaway
I'm in the dark half of your house
You're the emptiness throughout
And we're time lapse cameras
following lab rats
afraid of everything around
I will not let my thinking interfere with what I mean
I will not let my drinking sell me anything I need
So sad that I believe most everything
If you wanna change throw it all away

Exxonmobilspagiftbasket
You undercut everybody
You want a cut from everyone
Here's a song for everybody
Staying home on a friday
And it's all right
How I wonder if you've seen it
How I wonder if you've seen this
While I'm alive I wanna give you something
Before I die I wanna give you something
It comes with better warnings and flashing lights
You'll be buried alive under an advertisement
It's better to lie cuz you know when you're fucking right
It's better to play along and just keep waiting till you're in my sights
All I want / All at once
you undercut everybody
you want a cut from everyone
here's a song for everybody staying home on a friday
it's alright to be alone, if it feels right to be alone
like everybody

Climbing Fences
Buy our time and sell our time
At least we're on our own
I couldn't have been more unsure
Climbing fences at night and listening on the other end
Wild glances and stares make our new home
Come out with me you can't sleep it off
There's never any other time
Come out with me you can't sleep alone
There's never any other time
Climbing up

Focus
We speak through the wires
Whisper and conspire
Hidden in plain sight
You can leave
If you wanna
cuz I'm not gonna stop ya
even if you'd like
We need easy trials
That's fun for a while
Running out of time
Go to sleep, you're retired
Really let's be honest
I don't really try

It's all for show, for everyone you know
You get me so wrong

Sometimes it's not who you know
It's knowing who's leading you on
Who's letting you down
Take time to figure it out
Maybe you're reading it wrong
How should I know?
You hang by the skin of your teeth to a lie that you bought
Now that's all you own
Sometimes it's not who you know
Just knowing who's leading you on
Who's letting you go

Fullstop
Who asked for all this bad advice
Your thoughts do not belong to you
The junk we love outlives us all
Go sell it all for something new
Put your trust in the horde
The answer's always lost at sea
There's not much left for you to do
Your better judgement would agree
Put your trust in something new
Put your trust in the horde
Even if it makes no sense
Even if it makes no sense

Magnetic Boxes
Vision familiar and I know it's impossible
Magnetic boxes stand at rest
We're sinking quickly through memories inseparable
From pictures streaming out of our lips
We stand on platforms much too high
We stand on platforms much too high
I know you lie awake at night
I know you're not the waking type
Behind the surface soft sequence and dreams lined up
And the whole world opens up again
We stand on platforms much too high
We stand on platforms much too...
When the time is right
You forget to fall asleep when you lie awake at night
We belong in better days that dissolve with second sight
And the last thing that you know
That you call your own
We stand on platforms much too high

Tied to the Shore
The message says to come running
The same to everyone you know
Don't rest unless you come running
To miss the chance to be alone
I see no end in sight
Collecting sleep now and then
I've been waiting out at night
Talk is cheap
It never ends
And I'm certain
What's in our hands / over our heads
I know I have to stay connected
On the surface
Let's stay connected
I miss being alone
I miss being alone
I miss being alone
I've never felt so alone

Bad Advice
So give up the act
Cuz you're not a target
And if you survive
We'd be better off for it
Now you're in time
For some real bad advice
You're just in time
For some real bad advice
I hope we stay on the same page from here on out
I know we'll stay on the same page from here on out
Help's on the way
For you
While you slide out of view
Help's on the way for you
Don't slide out of view

Whiteout
While you were away
We cleared out the neighbors
And moved in the spies with sinister smiles
We come prepared
We know what you're thinking
You're the ghost by the side of the Hollywood sign
Cut to the stairs
When they get to talking
What's wrong with his eyes?
What's wrong with his eyes?
When people start waking up
you won't know
Because you're all so painfully normal
That you all try so hard to please
Just don't wear out your welcome
From so far away
Round no one you know
And you could stay
Just don't wear out your welcome
From so far away
If you need them to know
You could say "hey, it's ok, love you anyway, one day they'll come around"

Love you anyway
One day they'll come around
So write it down
White it out
write it down
white it out
was all I'm trying to say
way too late?
Is all I'm trying to say
way too late?

Write it down
White it out

Jinsai
05-01-2021, 03:25 PM
new music soon

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/eSI8lWkmU1H4Ja8DxFnAp4Go92yLyjWLGEzb1xU6L19DUckcS8 lLe2fgQhbaxNhOpg1iNoO9KIrbhsQUSn79H_I_TjBX7OmGiiIp nt-ZFpxGocTzX4ns9_oHILkmJUkUJhgU-13xZg68Fx0xblaSh6TrzGummvdazg0WDaRiMADGs8NoF0IFy1u RZNdc1vAWyXUFsBsWOrsklWiCNOJZSUghCJ0aUVxLdqJF7i1wu Y1YPNg0upvw1Gdd05X3avf-wqPqarrgz6RPiIRpHKaxAVaJWZpJ3N2cuEfnLkZEsJtQN_y41G _L3OfmQmX7ulKzzJyA9BCrCHcPx8jkK700ns7PpvJy93m1lXVL 5Qh5Uql-PUbeY7Bx0dLmKSQ0wFKEhgNBSAQRbL-z6ymx7YmXAyIE0c_k3_vz8aRe5amH1sUgOEVyd5VPP4m9mVcw0 rsJNv7I6nP0k_81GC5v4WBsPh8AQGGAUgT_ZSqt8rrkKOPeK_g gNq_EAVuyKRPU2YfhmF4gNE7g35FXYBpYvrTJY_-Tm6hEk0-DciMLPq35-kbbLvvSW1I-Sr1IWARiNwuj4wFIZEWSJ06UndT3HXNBUW5HZqm2AIFflQQs33 Eo9DwMBGARu-kisodGuWD3hC6OVAUbK406j2C632dqngqe_2b7uJCVgrrxerkj Ypk-EwPmoNGPdLoB9wXy6A33xGlu6YDzVVth3pR74sSESvsJSz4=w5 00-h462-no?authuser=0

elevenism
05-01-2021, 04:31 PM
Can't wait to hear, Jinsai !
eversonpoe , this is a laaaaate reaction to something you posted last year, but, people ARE that into your music. They've just not written a track by track review of any of it. I, personally, dig it quite a bit.

Jinsai
06-13-2021, 06:15 PM
I Just Killed a Spider

Now I feel better
In enormous stupid ways
and it comes and goes
in waves

I just killed something
I don't feel bad about it
Then I took its corpse
Flushed it down the toilet
I just did something
Now I feel good

It didn't do anything to me
And I smashed it
I smashed it into absolutely nothing
I smashed it
Like I hate it
I turned this thing I had no issue with
Into nothing
I smashed it into nothing
and I'll do it again

I just killed a spider
and now I feel better
I just killed a spider
and now I feel good

benoïde
07-12-2021, 02:31 PM
Hey, I'm listening to 'All we want all at once" and "New disconnect", some great and inspiring stuff in there!

Jinsai
07-24-2021, 02:35 AM
check the trunk

We're in the trunk
in the trunk
screaming our heads off
Here in the trunk
We're in the trunk
Nobody hears us
We're miles out by now
No one knows your whereabouts
We're in the trunk
The driver is drunk
Nobody hears us

poinoup
08-10-2021, 02:33 PM
I see new lyrics, this bodes well.

Jinsai
09-08-2021, 05:15 PM
clip from some random strangeness

https://soundcloud.com/sirensection/arguments-beat-1

poinoup
09-21-2021, 04:43 PM
There's a little bit of Starfuckers' intro in there. That's not a criticism.

Jinsai
09-21-2021, 07:31 PM
There's a little bit of Starfuckers' intro in there. That's not a criticism.

that’s fun because it is part of a plan for a distorted glitched drum intro to a track, but I didn’t think of that reference point. The song goes in a different direction and at this point turns into a sorta smashed-noise ballad. I’m having a good time teasing the tracks but I’m resisting temptation to upload unfinished things beyond this sorta “and wtf happened here?” clips

and some lyrics I’m happy with

EDIT: deleted some of the lyrics I was posting because they sound weird in print.

poinoup
09-21-2021, 10:04 PM
My old ears still work sometimes! If there's an internal struggle to upload things, you can always do a "work in progress" type thing. From just the ideas to the ideal final product. Just don't go overboard like Floyd and The Wall, haha. Look at disc 5 and 6, and I've listened to em to see the WIP.

https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/pink-floyd-the-wall-immersion-box-official-track-listing/

Jinsai
11-11-2021, 02:35 AM
new clip of random stuff!

https://soundcloud.com/sirensection/i-dont-call

Jinsai
08-17-2022, 05:25 PM
EDIT: Decided that some of the catharsis going on in these in-progress lyrics might be completely misunderstood, so I'm shelving this for a minute

poinoup
09-05-2022, 06:30 PM
*ears perk up*

Jinsai
09-05-2022, 10:52 PM
I'm excited about it and trying to keep working on it... the album is either gonna be called "Incineration Only" or "Resurrection Machine"
I've decided it's gonna probably be both... like one side of the record will be Incineration Only and the other side will be Resurrection Machine

poinoup
09-08-2022, 01:18 AM
Which genre is this sucker tackling? Comparable to past projects?

Jinsai
09-08-2022, 09:45 AM
it's way heavier and more pissed off I think. It's still so early in production, but... I'm very happy with the "Like Winona Ryder" song, which is like a noisy ballad

poinoup
09-08-2022, 11:53 AM
If ya need any feedback throughout, I know a guy. Haha.

Are you going under Siren Section for this one? The band is still kicking?

Jinsai
09-08-2022, 05:12 PM
will probably be under Siren Section.... I've also been working on some electronic stuff without vocals that I picked the name War Stores for it, trying to put together this album called Nightmare Logic. It's been difficult to keep focused lately, but the lyrical stuff will be Siren Section I think.... and I personally like the idea of giving an album two names, especially using the "/" like "Incineration Only / Resurrection Machine" I like the concept of keeping the slash involved :)

EDIT: we'll call it Separation Team / Resurrection Machine

Jinsai
09-19-2022, 11:59 AM
I just watched this video we made years ago. my friend William Orrendorf (who I'm about to go on Japan trip time with) put 90% of it together, and I think it's kinda rad


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDPpLG6IGO0

Jinsai
09-26-2022, 01:36 AM
and just to be clear, those are just lyrics, and I guess I have been making some suuuuuuper pissed off music music lately. I've been going through some bullshit and venting this way, and the album is sounding intense. I Hope You Fuckers Die is a pretty intense track, and I can't wait to show it off

poinoup
09-26-2022, 02:17 AM
Consider this your "Not the Actual Events." It's amazing how cathartic music can be.

I have a friend who is always looking for new tunes, so I sent him the discography. He was really digging Three and a Half Seasons. There's been a few now who dig that sucker lately.

Jinsai
09-26-2022, 03:36 AM
that's really cool. I'm strangely ashamed of three and a half. I made it when I was going through a crazy intensely hard time, and I really went insane on there. I do still like some songs on it. I still like Culling a lot, but I felt we got much better later, but it's weird to say, I love the lyric there "listen close you'll hear me screaming in my coma"

Jinsai
09-26-2022, 03:42 AM
and why not, this was from a live show we played before we opened up before a magician, and the audience wouldn't shut the fuck up until we cranked it and went a little nuts

the magician appreciated it and complimented us

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m6kkKMD0lg

you got some time before you follow through
and then you know what you're supposed to do
and why you have to choose between
the son of god
and a human being
it makes you laugh
and you don't know why
it makes you laugh
and I don't know why

I get reduced to this
You'll get used to it

Cause we've got time
we've got time
Before all your hopes get run down by your progress
all your dreams get killed off by persistence

we got time before you follow through
we've got time

Cause I'm with you alone
alone

I'll make this up to you

poinoup
09-26-2022, 10:09 PM
Dat coda tho. Works great into "Grace in Your Step."

Jinsai
09-26-2022, 10:25 PM
Dat coda tho. Works great into "Grace in Your Step."

Thank you, I'm raiding hard drives right now looking for old videos of our live shows, and I am pretty sure we have one of grace in your step

poinoup
09-26-2022, 10:47 PM
Always, my man! Persistence is a track that makes me think about my best friend passing away from cancer last year.

Before all your hopes get run down by your progress
all your dreams get killed off by persistence

Makes me think about her every time. I know that sounds weird, but tis true.

I think there was a "Slow Motion" on YouTube as well?

Jinsai
09-27-2022, 09:05 AM
this is funny, I haven't listened to 3 and a half in years, and it is not anywhere near as bad as I remember. Tomorrow I'm gonna upload it and Parallel Policy to Spotify... I mean there's some obvious flaws, and the production could have been better, but it kinda kicks ass

And poinoup, that is terribly sad, and I guess we write some sad music, but I am glad it has given you some comfort. Sad music is cathartic for me. This new album I'm putting together though... it doesn't have too many ballads like that on it. It is PISSED, lol. But I truly appreciate that my music is appreciated by you, and I'll be uploading some new stuff really soon.

Jinsai
09-27-2022, 06:47 PM
but yeah, found it, this is Slow Motion, which might be on the next album... and the video my poor dog Charlie... he did not die well, but he did the best he could, and we ended it when we needed to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9oeZik20Os

It's honestly a kinda hard watch for me... I really miss that guy, and I had to take him to the vet every day to make sure his heart valve wasn't filling up with fluid, and if it was they had to drain it, and then when it just got too regular and obviously wasn't going to get better, I played with him until he was exhausted and we put him down. It totally sucked. But leading up to that point, we developed this kinda intense special bond. God that sucked. Like at first he was terrified when I took him to the vet, and I had to play him Beethoven to calm him down, but after a while he realized this needed to be a routine. He was freaking out, and started wanting to crawl in bed with me... putting him down was one of the saddest experiences of my life. He was only seven years old.

So yeah, in a weird way, this video is sort of a eulogy for one of the best doggies ever, and at the end he really did his best.

Rest in power Charlie

poinoup
09-29-2022, 06:16 PM
*Bad joke incoming*

Pro-tip: Just don't start headbanging to it.

poinoup
09-29-2022, 07:54 PM
It's your thread, so you can post as much as you want, eh? Now you need to work every song title from BOTT into your lyrics.

Jinsai
10-11-2022, 01:26 AM
so, apparently in my sleep last night, I started thrashing around screaming "make the machines leave me alone, make the machines let me go, make the machines go, make them go, make the machines go away"

And I have no idea what the hell that was about, but I guess I'll put that into the lyrics

Jinsai
10-15-2022, 12:38 PM
Well, I'm just gonna clean up for a bit. 90% of these lyrics are changing, a bunch of them are thrown out completely. I thought it would be an interesting concept to just post lyrics in process and edit them as they were worked out, but instead it just makes it feel confused, now that I'm trying to program some of the music... usually I do the music first and then the lyrics later, or simultaneously. Never really done lyrics first, and wondering if that's an approach that's gonna work for me.

Or maybe I feel like it makes it seem "finalized" in some weird way, and everything is so in flux. I might not even have lyrics, or I might sing them through a vocoder. I have no idea.

EDIT EDIT: first day of guitar tracking went well. Weird to get back into the swing of recording. Carry Through is sounding huge.

EDIT EDIT EDIT: Sketched up demos of everything. The only songs that are sounding good are Bullet Train, Tritagonist, Carry Through, and Like Wynona Ryder. The rest of this is complete bullshit. Back to the drawing board.... or maybe I'll just make something really short.

Jinsai
01-17-2023, 11:31 PM
BULLET TRAIN:

I blew my brains out on a bullet train
Every day I feel the same
I saw you smile from the bullet train
I saw you waving from the bullet train
Every day I feel more the same
I blew my brains out
I feel the same
More
Same
More
Same
I blew my brains out on a bullet train
I love you more than I did
yesterday
You blew a kiss on the bullet train
I blew my brains out
I feel the same

Fragile Teeth
01-20-2023, 03:22 PM
gave a sub for us old guys.

Jinsai
02-25-2023, 11:31 PM
I came over this promo we made for our last album, and I'm having a good time watching it and thinking hey, that was kinda cool

https://twitter.com/Jinsai_band/status/891528751011381248

https://twitter.com/Jinsai_band/status/891528751011381248

Jinsai
03-23-2023, 09:12 PM
Spoooooooky music I made for a movie

https://soundcloud.com/sirensection/unicorn-head-advice

Jinsai
09-02-2023, 01:21 PM
this is really kinda touching. I was looking to see if I'd uploaded this song, and I hadn't but it was used in this horror movie. Someone went out of their way and ripped it and uploaded it, and I don't even have a digital online version to link anyone to.

The song was about this cat that kept raiding our studio when we practiced, kinda. I named her Cashmere. Her home was always at my place.

Thank you to the person who went out of their way to upload this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYM9z_N42Gk