Godzilla vs. Kong (The Monsterverse)

[GoodSoldier333]

If any of you remember the 2010 British film "Monsters", it was a terrific film shot for about half a million dollars about aliens on Earth which (to the dismay of MANY people) turned out to be a very chemistry-driven movie. Ultimately, the film led it's director and writer, Gareth Edwards, into being hired by Legendary Pictures to direct a reboot of the franchise.

David Callaham (who wrote the atrocious script for the film adaptation to the video game Doom) was hired to write the reboot of this, and....thank God....Legendary Pictures rejected his script.

They hired an unknown to write a new script. I haven't seen a good Godzilla flick yet, tbh. But it seems from both the directorial choice as well as choosing NOT to go forward with the project until they have an amazing script, they're likely not to fuck this one up. And honestly...after having seen Gareth Edwards' "Monsters" last year, i'm positive he'll make this into something amazing.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8d/Godzilla_2012_design.jpg

[ImTheWiseJanitor]

This is a reboot I think I can get behind. I really loved "Monsters," so maybe this could turn out alright. I'll wait to hear more before I get excited, though.

[neorev]

"Monsters" was a great movie...
them hiring Gareth Edwards made me believe we can get a great Godzilla flick with character, emotion, and great use of the environment/surroundings to build the atmosphere

[Frozen Beach]

Honestly, I just don't see Godzilla working without a guy in a suit being him. Yeah, it's cheesy and not realistic looking, but come on, that's Godzilla. That's the fun of Godzilla pictures is the cheesiness and epic monster battles. If this movie ends up being an overly CGI'd attempt to make Godzilla completely serious, I will vomit uncontrollably.

[GoodSoldier333]

Ehh, after Rise of the Planets of the Apes, an all CGI film wouldn't be too bad at all.

[PQHooligan]

This is a reboot I think I can get behind. I really loved "Monsters," so maybe this could turn out alright. I'll wait to hear more before I get excited, though.

agreed - I was the only person who went to the limited release showing, and while yes it got odd at the end, I enjoyed it - I'm sure he'll crank out something worthwhile

[ImTheWiseJanitor]

Ehh, after Rise of the Planets of the Apes, an all CGI film wouldn't be too bad at all.

Agreed! That movie set some new standards for motion capture/CGI. If they set out to do the very best they can manage with the technology, I'm sure that at least the monster itself wouldn't disappoint.


agreed - I was the only person who went to the limited release showing, and while yes it got odd at the end, I enjoyed it - I'm sure he'll crank out something worthwhile

No limited showing around here, sadly. :\ But it was really stellar to see it in blu-ray after hearing about it on here.

[GoodSoldier333]

http://www.geeksofdoom.com/GoD/img/2012/07/2012-07-14-godzilla-teaser-bn.jpg

It's amazing to see how invested Legendary is to Gareth Edwards. They completely believe that they've got THE director for this film, which is great.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly9UeWvx1W8

[Space Suicide]

Might be worthwhile.

[hellospaceboy]

I couldn't believe when I first heard who got the directing gig. It's such a no brainer (and an excellent choice) that I'm surprised that the studio actually went with it. They usually fuck everything up.

[neorev]

i hate to say it, but this could possibly be legendary
yeah that's right, i said it :)

this and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles coming out on the same day
it's either gonna be an amazing day relishing in everything that was my childhood or my childhood is gonna be bound, raped, and left for dead on the side of the road
but that date is looking like a double movie day for me, can't wait
i feel like a fat kid in a candy shop

i really liked Monsters and trust in Mr. Edwards to bring it

[ImTheWiseJanitor]

First little update from the set! Nothing revealing. But I had no idea Bryan Cranston was on board for this! Just gets me more excited.

http://m.ign.com/articles/2013/03/20/director-posts-video-from-godzilla-set

[neorev]

oh man, most anticipated of 2014... fuck that!... of all motherfucking time!
my inner child is ready to whip it out and fucking let loose.
can ya tell how excited i am by the use of the word fuck every other word???
legendary pictures behind... the right director behind the camera... and a great cast on top of that... can't wait!
Heisenberg vs. Godzilla

http://media.aintitcool.com/media/uploads/2013/papa_vinyard/godzilla-fstail_large.jpg

some info about new footage shown...
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/63358

fucking Comic Con, give the outside world the damn footage already!

they also took over a whole warehouse just outside San Diego Comic Con and dedicated it to Godzilla...
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/63282


(http://www.aintitcool.com/node/63282)

[bobbie solo]

i loved Monsters. but after Pacific Rim, this movie will be a tall order.

[ImTheWiseJanitor]

Yum.

http://www.godzilla-movies.com/uploads/godzilla2014.gif

[Findus]

http://youtu.be/CjKHrxzCkRk

[ManBurning]

Yeah, i'm excited to check this one out. It was filmed around Vancouver as well, in fact I was on the same street as the set last month, I got to see crushed buses and building debris everywhere. They were trying to pose New Westminster, BC (suburb of Vancouver) as San Francisco. They had signs everywhere welcome to San Francisco. SF Police Dept and other various hidden gems. I'm looking forward to the movie just to pinpoint areas around town! Haha.

[GoodSoldier333]

There have been "talks" about a potential Pacific Rim/Godzilla crossover, given Godzilla is an overall success.

Also, if anyone can put their hands on who's doing the score for this film...Looked everywhere/can't find.

[ChasingTheGhost]

Love the new look.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/39ff64eb862eafe2fb3f1d02f1a9a037/tumblr_msxsqk8AoT1rwy72mo1_500.jpg

[Space Suicide]

Honestly, I just don't see Godzilla working without a guy in a suit being him. Yeah, it's cheesy and not realistic looking, but come on, that's Godzilla. That's the fun of Godzilla pictures is the cheesiness and epic monster battles. If this movie ends up being an overly CGI'd attempt to make Godzilla completely serious, I will vomit uncontrollably.

We had that.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt6bMHUoE6I

[Microwave Jellyfish]

Love the new look.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/39ff64eb862eafe2fb3f1d02f1a9a037/tumblr_msxsqk8AoT1rwy72mo1_500.jpg
Whoa, are those gills on his neck? This'll be the first time they explain how he's able to live underwater.

I wouldn't mind bigger teeth (although I like how they kinda brought back the Heisei-era double rows), but overall I dig it too. It'll be good to see something old-school saurian in the cinema again.

[Microwave Jellyfish]

Bumping this thread with the same thing, but now with geeky NIN-references shopped in, yay!

http://i40.tinypic.com/24cfe2q.jpg

EDIT: damnit, forgot to add the essential "And he signs his name with a capital G" joke. Well, it's done now.

WB/Legendary really wants this photo to be taken off and deleted finally from the whole internetz, but let's hope for the best.

[Microwave Jellyfish]

Aaaaand a concept trailer (without actual movie footage, since it was made for Comic-Con 2012) has leaked today. It is pretty neat. if Legendary didn't hunt it down yet, you can see it here:

http://m.moviepilot.de/movies/godzilla-remake/trailer/55716

A new, official trailer will come out on the 3rd of November.

[ChasingTheGhost]

You have no idea how fucking happy that made me.

[marodi]

Niiiiice! And pretty cool to use the Oppenheimer quote.

[GoodSoldier333]

So bloody gooooooood.

[ImTheWiseJanitor]

Just gonna leave this here, since they appear to have replaced the trailer with the promo video from earlier in the year in the link above.

http://www.heavy.com/entertainment/2013/10/godzilla-2014-leaked-teaser-trailer/ (http://www.heavy.com/entertainment/2013/10/godzilla-2014-leaked-teaser-trailer/)

[Microwave Jellyfish]

Good call, thanks! Here's another link, just to be sure. It's a Hungarian site, so there's less chance of any studio ex's discovering it.

http://indavideo.hu/video/a_dagi_csavo

(trivia: the title of the video is a codename, it means "the fat guy")

[neorev]

I was able to download the teaser trailer of Dailymotion in pretty decent quality.
I cannot fucking wait for this movie!
I loved Monsters and was really excited they picked him to direct Godzilla.
Then the cast came in and I grew even more excited.
And not this teaser leaks... and man, do I have a Godzilla-size boner for this movie.
I always wanted a serious tone Godzilla movie...
the idea of a gigantic monster attacking a city should actually be a scary experience.
and not the previous Americanized wisecracking, silly version we got from Roland Emmerich and co.
Especially when you read that Roland Emmerich and co. weren't fans of nor even watched a Godzilla movie.
They only got hired because they would do it for a specific budget and can do what they want with it.
Now that's the kinda people you wanna hire?
This new one is looking amaze-balls so far.

[neorev]

So today...
Tuesday, December 10th...
Warner Bros. Pictures & Legendary Pictures will premiere the GODZILLA trailer at 10 a.m. Pacific/1 p.m. Eastern.

http://www.comingsoon.net/gallery/64647/hr_Godzilla_8.jpg

Also, a new viral site for the film, MUTOResearch.net (http://www.mutoresearch.net/), has launched and been posting scrambled/distorted videos (guessing clips from the upcoming trailer)

--- MUTO VIDEO #1 ---
http://youtu.be/vouqMzOnFlY

--- MUTO VIDEO #2 ---
http://youtu.be/XGNNKOeQMVM

--- MUTO VIDEO #3 ---
http://youtu.be/WkGp-kSLJqo

--- MUTO VIDEO #4 ---
http://youtu.be/No0dhBOQ2TM

--- MUTO VIDEO #5 ---
http://youtu.be/aw08tuklPzQ


More pictures released:

http://www.comingsoon.net/gallery/64647/Godzilla_7.jpg

http://www.comingsoon.net/gallery/64647/Godzilla_6.jpg

http://www.superherohype.com/images/stories/2013/December/godzilla_viral_2.jpg

http://www.comingsoon.net/nextraimages/godzillaimagesmall.jpg

[ibanez33]

FINALLY!

The movie comes out in like 6 months, I can't believe it took so long. I can understand not wanting to show too much before it comes out but it's not like they have to go the usual Hollywood route of giving away the whole movie in the trailer. All I want is 30-45 seconds of mostly just Godzilla wrecking shit up and I'll be happy, then around March drop another 30-45 seconds of Godzilla wrecking a bit more shit and maybe familiarize us with a couple human characters.

[neorev]

FINALLY!

The movie comes out in like 6 months, I can't believe it took so long. I can understand not wanting to show too much before it comes out but it's not like they have to go the usual Hollywood route of giving away the whole movie in the trailer. All I want is 30-45 seconds of mostly just Godzilla wrecking shit up and I'll be happy, then around March drop another 30-45 seconds of Godzilla wrecking a bit more shit and maybe familiarize us with a couple human characters.

But wait, didn't you see the Comic Con trailer that leaked a couple of months ago?
It didn't exactly show any action scenes, but you did see the aftermath, some other monster lying in the rubble, and got a glimpse of Godzilla emerging through the dust.
The look, feel, and tone was enough for me... definitely was epic!

[theburningreptile]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjKO10hKtYw&feature=youtu.be

[Microwave Jellyfish]

Here we go!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=681680408529033&set=vb.443771755653234&type=2&theater


Edit: oh, too late. :o


A new, official trailer will come out on the 3rd of November.
Yeah, sorry about that, guys. It was a twitter rumor that somehow became "official" news. November 3 was the 59th anniversary of Gojira. People assumed WB was going to put out something because of that.

Edit #2: There's a fresh, new poster too.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2eyz9yf.png

[neorev]

OH MAN, THIS LOOKS SO FUCKING AWESOME THAT I HAVE TO USE ALL CAPS AND BOLD!

But seriously, I'm loving the tone and feel so far. I really wanted a Godzilla movie where the idea of a skyscraper sized abomination stomping a city to dust was actually an emotionally scary thing to witness. Not a movie filled with stupid jokes, no real full on destruction, and no sense of any real danger for its characters like that other American remake we got back in the late 90's. And it's looking like we finally be getting a badass Godzilla. Bring it on! May can't get here soon enough! Plus a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles coming out around the same time. That's like my entire childhood coming out in theaters in the span of a few months. My inner child is geeking out on overdrive.

[thevoid99]

OK... it looks like they're actually going to get this right this time around. It actually looks good.

[ImTheWiseJanitor]

God. I wanna put my dick in it.

No, wait. I want it to put its dick in me.

[Deadpool]

Love the new trailer! Getting really excited for this.

[virushopper]

That was pretty cool. Hopefully it does well and Warner can combine this with Pacific Rim.

[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

This looks pretty fucking epic!! It's pretty dam spooky watching the scale of how big Zilla really is. Aaron Taylor-Johnson I really enjoy as an actor, and having Cranston on board is always a big plus! Cannot wait for this.

[marodi]

This looks so promising. Please please please don't be a disappointment.

And I must be the only person in the world who likes the 1998 movie. Come on guys; Hank Azaria and Jean Reno were fun.

[ImTheWiseJanitor]

This looks so promising. Please please please don't be a disappointment.

And I must be the only person in the world who likes the 1998 movie. Come on guys; Hank Azaria and Jean Reno were fun.

It had its fun parts, but...I really don't wanna see Godzilla for fun parts! I wanna see shit get fucked!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSfgNuXlSY0

[Microwave Jellyfish]

So... looks like there's a glimpse of one of Godzilla's non-human opponents in there. According to those who saw this year's Comic-Con feature (not the leaked teaser on last page), it's an insect/arachnid like thing with pale skin, a thin head and huge black eyes. Something that fits that description appears to be biting/tearing a train (and a bridge with the railway) apart there.

I made a GIF, with 40% of the shot's original speed.

http://i39.tinypic.com/2dcbn05.gif

(BTW, is it cool to post animations like this? Here's a link in case it shall be deleted: http://i39.tinypic.com/2dcbn05.gif (http://i39.tinypic.com/2dcbn05.gif[))

[ManBurning]

I already know i'm gonna check this movie out, so i'm gonna skip the trailer to avoid spoilers. I hate watching trailers, as I find they always ruin the movie for me. Been trying to get out of the habit of watching trailers to movies I know I want to see. With that said, based on the feedback everyone is writing upon watching the trailer, i'm excited. Sounds like people's opinions on the trailer are generally really positive, so that's a good sign.

[GoodSoldier333]

Loved this trailer for 1: Not showing much at all, and 2: That opening first-person scene was Eppppppppic.

If anyone here hasn't seen Gareth Edward's (the director) debut and only movie so far titled Monsters, i highly suggest checking it out before watching this film. He was hired essentially because of that film.

[frankie teardrop]

Monsters

i LOVED this movie. and my interest in this has just gone from very little to quite a lot.

[neorev]

i LOVED this movie. and my interest in this has just gone from very little to quite a lot.

Monsters was great!
I swelled with happiness when they announced that he was attached to direct Godzilla.
I think he's the perfect choice, a director that could balance Godzilla and his path of destruction built around a gripping and emotional character-based story.
I cannot frigging wait.

[Deepvoid]

Trailer looks awesome. As someone said it above me, it looks like they got it right this time.

[Microwave Jellyfish]

Click here, you won't regret it: http://www.godzillamovie.com/awakenthetruth/
http://i.imgur.com/Hi7CdUa.jpg

This one's out in the UK on Thursday.

[Microwave Jellyfish]

http://youtu.be/vIu85WQTPRc

[marodi]

Oh sweet Lord I have so much hope for this movie; please don't let it be disappointing! Everything so far looks awesome though.

Am I the only who's rooting for Godzilla when watching a Godzilla movie? Although this one looks like a really scary mean bitchy fire breathing man eating destructive machine... I'm still going to cry when he dies. If he dies.

[thevoid99]

OK, that looks awesome. Please don't let it suck and please, use the song by Blue Oyster Cult.

[neorev]

at 1:31, is that a fighter jet coming down from the sky or a flying creature? it kinda looks like Rodan.

[Millionaire]

I grew up watching that lizard. So stoked for this.

[ibanez33]

at 1:31, is that a fighter jet coming down from the sky or a flying creature? it kinda looks like Rodan.

If it's the same thing that's falling into the ocean in the next shot then it's WAY to big to be anything other than Rodan.

[littlemonkey613]

Am I the only who's rooting for Godzilla when watching a Godzilla movie? Although this one looks like a really scary mean bitchy fire breathing man eating destructive machine... I'm still going to cry when he dies. If he dies.

I usually feel that way. Im really surprised (and disturbed lol) that I feel so differently this time. The tone is just so like real or some shit Im just concerned about all the peeps dyin// imagining myself being there and how terrifying it seems. This looks really scary!! Well done.

[ImTheWiseJanitor]

If it's the same thing that's falling into the ocean in the next shot then it's WAY to big to be anything other than Rodan.

I agree, and after seeing the "dead" monster in the first teaser trailer, I'm not gonna be surprised if we see at least two or three different monsters in the movie - WHICH IS AWESOME. I'm really happy this movie is looking the way it does. They could have really messed this one up, but it is fucking killing it as far as hype goes.

[neorev]

http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/godzilla-empire-magazine-cover.jpg


Check out Empire's 10 minute video of director Gareth Edwards discussing Godzilla along with the trailer...
http://bcove.me/9caschu4


(http://bcove.me/9caschu4)

[RJK]

New international trailer. http://youtu.be/tOelEIQHR_U

There definitely looks to be a (clear) flying monster in this trailer.

[Deepvoid]

New international trailer. http://youtu.be/tOelEIQHR_U

There definitely looks to be a (clear) flying monster in this trailer.

It doesn't look like it's Mothra.

[marodi]

It doesn't look like it's Mothra.

Rodan?

*unless it's a new monster with a name containing at least 10 characters*

[Baphomette]

Rodan?

*unless it's a new monster with a name containing at least 10 characters*

Mechagodzilla?

[ImTheWiseJanitor]

What exactly is the other monster? It's pretty obvious from the new trailer, you guys.

http://www.dragonize.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Mecha-Streisand.png

[Deepvoid]

Rodan?

*unless it's a new monster with a name containing at least 10 characters*

I think you nailed with with Rodan.

If you do a search on Youtunbe for "Rodan", the third video's screenshot ("Rodan Japanese Trailer") looks exactly the same as the monster in the new Godzilla trailer.

***
Apparently, it's a new monster called Muto.

[Microwave Jellyfish]

Hey guys, long time no post. But we've got a TV spot today:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrKrZWa1ATk

Try this link if it's not working for ya: youtu.be/AGzXLaUcK-U (sorry, can't seem to link it without it automatically turning into an embed video, at least in the preview)

There's a great side glimpse of one of the MUTOs. In the trailer's flying/descending shot it does sort of look like Rodan, but sadly no other Toho monsters were allowed to appear besides Godzilla. According to Gareth Edwards, they were trying to create new things, while also referencing movie monsters, from Hollywood and Toho alike. You can recognize a Starship Troopers arachnid's head (one of the creatures he pointed out as inspiration), and if you remember the Tremors monsters, the open mouth totally reminded me of those.

Here's a screencap (http://i.imgur.com/aYqVW1z.jpg). The things on the left are the wings. Thing looks like an enormous Gargoyle.

[GoodSoldier333]

That TV Spot was massive. English version:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-dhm2Zy0so

[Conan The Barbarian]

The more I see the more I want.

[marodi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64c6VLNJQiE

[Wretchedest]

fucking dog cliche...

[Microwave Jellyfish]

Boomer will live. I love the MUTOs.

You guys should watch these spots too:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkzPlirT7ng

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs_UYLfWtgg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs_UYLfWtgg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYniLOXh7Wg)

http://i.imgur.com/KundWDb.png?1

http://i.imgur.com/PLRRquD.png?1

http://i.imgur.com/hhoqsYq.png

http://i.imgur.com/pxD58tS.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bCLvpFT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/cZJMwwD.jpg

[Frozen Beach]

edit: wow, the footage was deleted right when I posted a link. There's 5 minutes of footage going around that made my penis explode.

[peter]

edit: wow, the footage was deleted right when I posted a link. There's 5 minutes of footage going around that made my penis explode.
There you go: http://www.4geekslikeyou.com/movies/godzilla-wonder-con-footage-has-leaked/

[marodi]

Give it to me NOW!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIR42vxqvLc

"A monster"

"No, a GOD"

[Conan The Barbarian]

That was fucking amazing.

Also, downloading every single movie ( minus the iguana) and will watch until release day.

[Microwave Jellyfish]

28 movies for 17 days? It's going to be tight. :)


"A monster"

"No, a GOD"
Seems like they have the Gojira myth (maybe even Odo Island?) in this continuity. Good stuff.

[Conan The Barbarian]

2 or 3 a day I think I can pull it off.

[dlb]

I actually watched the very first Godzilla movie a couple of days since I've never ever seen it. All the others of course but never the first one... quite chilling!

Just bought tickets for the 14th and can't wait for this! The runtime is a solid 120 minutes for anyone who did not know.

[Microwave Jellyfish]

5 short clips hit the web today, collected in the link below, but I would advise against watching them. They are full of spoilers, seriously.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0831387/board/thread/229201834

[Microwave Jellyfish]

The whole OST album is up on Spotify. It's probably one of Desplat's best works, however, the track titles themselves are once again, full of huge spoilers.

If you would like to listen to it, I recommend opening it in a new tab, clicking play, then leave it playing in the background. Seriously, don't read the titles.

https://play.spotify.com/album/7y27dtoFtGQxBbY1ZNi0qK

[Rdm]

No offense to anyone here but its a bit irritating that you guys are posting so many pictures without links. I like reading the thread but there are many spoilers in here without any tags.

[GulDukat]

I didn't expect to be too excited about this (the 1998 film wasn't very memorable) but this looks good.

[Microwave Jellyfish]

No offense to anyone here but its a bit irritating that you guys are posting so many pictures without links. I like reading the thread but there are many spoilers in here without any tags.
Apologies. There was some discussion going on about the identity of the monster(s), so I thought pretty much everyone would like to see them. I don't think the screencaps spoil anything from the story itself. (I mean, yeah, Godzilla will fight that thing, but that's hardly surprising after 28 movies.)

[theburningreptile]

Been a big fan of Godzilla since I was a little kid. I could tell you everything about 4 things as a kid. Batman, Dinosaurs, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Godzilla. This looks pretty damn good. The only memory i have of seeing a Godzilla film in theaters was the remake. I believe this will be at least on par with the others. Deep down im hoping it blows them out of the water. In short my body is ready.

[Charmingly Miserable]

I didn't expect to be too excited about this (the 1998 film wasn't very memorable) but this looks good.
It had a pretty good soundtrack though.

[GoodSoldier333]

Early reviews are in boys and girls.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/godzilla_2014/

[richardp]

Saw it tonight, and despite a lazy screenplay and some issues with editing, it's a really fun time. Godzilla is MASSIVE and Gareth Edwards uses a ton of wide shots to really establish that.

And, uh, yeah the two Atomic Breath shots brought the fucking house DOWN with everyone jumping out of their seats and yelling super loud. You aren't even ready for how awesome that shit is.

Also, the other creature you see in the trailers is 100% not Rodan .

[GoodSoldier333]

With regards to your first spoiler, i wasn't even aware of "that" within the franchise itself. Shows how much i know. That's fucking awesome.

[Conan The Barbarian]

Well the toys pretty much confirmed that. But I can't wait to see it on screen.

[GoodSoldier333]

Is that true to all/most of the previous Godzilla movies in the franchise? Or are there films in which that is not shown/used? Literally didn't know of this before...thought he was just an over-sized lizard.

[cahernandez]

'Japanese fans complain new American Godzilla is too fat': http://www.japantoday.com/category/entertainment/view/japanese-fans-say-new-american-godzilla-is-too-fat

(I would blame it on his GM diet)

[Conan The Barbarian]

You just can't please the Japanese these days.

[Rabbit]

85% fresh on rotten. will be seeing this day 1

[ibanez33]

Is that true to all/most of the previous Godzilla movies in the franchise? Or are there films in which that is not shown/used? Literally didn't know of this before...thought he was just an over-sized lizard.

The atomic breath? That's been a thing for pretty much the entire franchise IIRC

[dlb]

Saw it yesterday night and man did it deliver! Godzilla is HUGE and you just have to see the design in motion to fully appreciate it! Sadly the trailers already gave away most of the epic moments.

It felt very real and was actually quite quiet for a monster movie. While the characters were very cliche they really managed to not make them appear silly or completely useless. The soundtrack was used wisely IMHO and the two hours went by pretty fast.


My only complaints:
- too much military show-off that was more than unnecessary (how many scenes did we need with soldiers firing at sky-high monsters?)
- not enough Godzilla
- the editing was a bit all over the place, mainly with the location switches. We bascially rushed through 10 cities/places within minutes
- the MUTO design is pretty awesome but not when both creatures actually look the same
- for some reason I had the feeling that no one besides Cranston's character is actually upset and worried that there are these monsters out there. Godzilla's existence was treated as it was a pretty common fact within inner circles: "We have an alpha predator out there in the pacific? really? jeez, but okay..."
- not a real complaint but I didn't get any of the references to the old movies. I knew they were there but I guess I would have needed to see them again before this flick... but yeah, no real complaint. the movie is great on its own


My highlights:
- Godzilla in motion
- the fights were choreographed quite beautiful and were easy to follow compared to other monster flicks
- the whole human aspect and the gritty tone made the film feel very real despite the fact that this is a crazy as hell story
- the money shot had me almost standing that's how awesome it looked. and that final takedown? Wooohoo! :D

Some things that were unclear to me because I didn't get them or didn't listen carefully:
- How did Godzilla make his way to get the MUTO? Was he also attracted by it's call?
- What kind of skeleton was that in the Phillipines? Another Godzilla? And why was it with the MUTO spores? Are they natural enemies from ancient times?
- When the male MUTO hatched from the spore in the Phillipines, how did it manage to create such a devastating way into the ocean? It cocooned in Janjira but man, it must have been enormously big before it's final stage to cause such havoc and how could it enter the facility without anyone noticing?
- when the bomb goes off in the end... isn't that a catastrophy still? It was barely time for the ship to get to a safe place for the blast not to hit the city or did I get this wrong? Especially when the military tells the doctor that in comparsion the bomb in Hiroshima looks like a small firework against this?

Either way, go see it! It's the best Godzilla movie to watch alongside the original!

[onthewall2983]

I really enjoyed it. Not having seen the earlier films I didn't go in with set expectations, except maybe from that incredible trailer cited earlier. It's not particularly unique for being so character-driven as it is but it lends a charm to it that doesn't distract from the mayhem, but only adds an emotional toll to it all.


Cranston gives a pretty wrenching performance, and does well to set the emotional tone. I think it was a mistake to kill him off as early as they did, as I would have liked to have seen him and Watanabe have more screen time but there you go. The rest of the cast do well enough to carry it through, and no performance is particularly cringe-worthy (even the lead who I found hard to get behind a little).

[ImTheWiseJanitor]

YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! That hit every spot I hoped it would. I fell in love with the shitty 1998 Godzilla as a kid, and here I am still getting the same goosebumps from the King of the Monsters.

Also, anyone else catch the Mothra easter egg?? There was a glimpse of an empty fish tank with "cocoons" hanging in it, in some ruins toward the beginning of the movie, that had two stickers on top of each other - the top sticker saying "moth" and the end of the sticker beneath it saying "-ra."

Oh, and DAT FINAL BLOW. Everyone in the theater cheered! Shit was intense!

[Reznor2112]

YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! That hit every spot I hoped it would. I fell in love with the shitty 1998 Godzilla as a kid, and here I am still getting the same goosebumps from the King of the Monsters.

Also, anyone else catch the Mothra easter egg?? There was a glimpse of an empty fish tank with "cocoons" hanging in it, in some ruins toward the beginning of the movie, that had two stickers on top of each other - the top sticker saying "moth" and the end of the sticker beneath it saying "-ra."

Oh, and DAT FINAL BLOW. Everyone in the theater cheered! Shit was intense!

I feel the same way. and I did indeed catch the easter egg. Plus I noticed a very subtle Jurassic Park reference...or shot i should say.

This movie was fun as hell!!!!

The debut reveal is worth the damn wait The whole theater was clapping. Fucking awesome movie. My only hope is that IF there are any sequels...that Gareth directs them.

[allegro]

Is that true to all/most of the previous Godzilla movies in the franchise? Or are there films in which that is not shown/used? Literally didn't know of this before...thought he was just an over-sized lizard.

Gojira not just big lizard (http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/godzilla-is-our-never-ending-nuclear-nightmare)

I am kind of excited to see this. I've been a Godzilla fan since the original Japanese flick, but was afraid this would suck. ROEPER likes it, so now I have to see it. I miss Godzilla in the States, it's nice to have him back again.

I hope this director remakes Son of Godzilla, next!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC2IFgIh4oY

[GulDukat]

Godzilla was okay, but not great. The special effects, the MUTO, and Godzilla looked awesome and the showdown at the end was fun--but I thought the movie was just kind of dull. Amazing visuals can only take a film so far. I would have liked more background on what these creatures were. The movie was also at times, I felt, overly dramatic. Lots of drama over families being separated, grief over loss, etc. The thing is, I didn't feel invested in these characters and didn't care about them--they were all stock characters who were cliche (GI Joe action man, the warning scientist, etc.) and generic. I give it a 2.5/5.

[Millionaire]

Just saw it. Having grown up watching this guy, I had nostalgia working against me, which is probably the no. 1 thing that brings unrealistically high expectations to a viewer. Even so, this turned out just as good as I was hoping it would be. Godzilla is really given a sense of scale, with the awe and fear that goes along with that. It goes to show what happens when a studio gets a talented director who is actually a fan of the property he is doing and trusts him enough to allow him to put his imprint on the film.

[pulse]

I saw this yesterday. I will just say that they did great work on making this film. This is one of the best monster movies made in a long long time. They didn't overdo the scenes. They were about as absorbing and realistic as it gets for towering giants destroying everything. And the story wasn't full of cheese. It just worked. Again, great big-budget Godzilla. I hope they make more.

[AgentofChaos]

- when the bomb goes off in the end... isn't that a catastrophy still? It was barely time for the ship to get to a safe place for the blast not to hit the city or did I get this wrong? Especially when the military tells the doctor that in comparsion the bomb in Hiroshima looks like a small firework against this?



Yeah I didn't quite understand this. I'm going with the explanation that it didn't. It was an awkward weird pointless scene in an otherwise great and fun flick.

[GoodSoldier333]

Every time Ken Wantanabe aka Dr. Ishiro Serizawa would say "Godzilla" / "Gojira", my entire theater would start laughing. I couldn't keep a straight face either.

[allegro]

Every time Ken Wantanabe aka Dr. Ishiro Serizawa would say "Godzilla" / "Gojira", my entire theater would start laughing. I couldn't keep a straight face either.

But that's his real name (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godzilla#Name)

[cahernandez]

Every time Ken Wantanabe aka Dr. Ishiro Serizawa would say "Godzilla" / "Gojira", my entire theater would start laughing. I couldn't keep a straight face either.

This also happened in my theatre and I couldn't understand why...why were you laughing? Not dissing you or anything, I'm honestly curious.

[marodi]

"IT'S GOJIRA, YOU MORON!" One of the funniest quote from the 1998 film.

[dlb]

I rewatched the remake, well a few bits and it actually isn't that bad. The soundtrack as already mentioned is quite good and the beginning is really solid. Until the campy characters come in that is... And of course the film wanted to much in the end. The Mini-Godzillas and Godzilla rising from the dead were unnecessary, but overall, I think it's one of Emmerich's better movies.

But the 1998 film really shows what makes Godzilla 2014 the movie it is. And it's the tone and the characters.

[allegro]

Yeah I didn't quite understand this. I'm going with the explanation that it didn't. It was an awkward weird pointless scene in an otherwise great and fun flick.
That is from the original 1954 flick (http://www.giantbomb.com/dr-serizawa/3005-8079/)

[The Reason Being]

I was so ready to love this film, but I was really dissappointed by it. I think despite my various grips though, I would have enjoyed it so much more if the cinema I saw it in wasn't SO DAMN QUIET! Has anyone had this problem before? It was so weird. When I saw the trailer before watching Amazing Spiderman 2 in the very same cinema, it was so loud and intense that it literally gave me goosebumps. But seeing it last night, I dunno, someone must have leant on the volume knob or some shit. There were at least 3 occasions where there were crazy, destructive battle scenes going on and people in the audience were shouting "turn it up!" All the cool stuff I was seeing on screen had little to no impact on me because of it, and things that would normally be super impressive came off as kind of awkward. It also just seemed to me that (spoilers-ish) every time they would amp you up like some crazy shit was about to go down with the monsters, or the monster would roar and the score would build and you'd be like FUCK YEAH LETS DO THIS, then it would instantly cut to the annoying army dude or his girlfriend for ten minutes of dialogue. I swear this happened like 5 or 6 different times. By the time things actually started to hit the fan, I just didn't care that much because they psyched you out so many times for an hour already. I think I was mostly rubbed the wrong way because of the sound issues, but it just didn't feel like I was watching the same film i'd seen advertised. I'll also add that I have little to no knowledge of Godzilla or previous Godzilla movies or lore or anything.

Of course, i'll get the blu-ray and probably have a better experience. Most frustrating cinema trip ever. :)

[AgentofChaos]

That is from the original 1954 flick (http://www.giantbomb.com/dr-serizawa/3005-8079/)

What was? The bomb going off or not going off? I don't see the parallells to said scene since if it did go off, it very clearly wasn't an oxygen bomb as per 1954, yet it created absolutely no destruction whatsoever, nevermind that he was rescued with like less than 5 minutes left with no chance to get to safety if it did.

And if it didn't go off, why did he need to be rescued, why not just have him disarm the bomb since apparently he was one of the few people who could do it and it didn't need to detonate at that point anyway?

The whole thing just made no sense to me. I loved everything else though.

[cahernandez]

I was so ready to love this film, but I was really dissappointed by it. I think despite my various grips though, I would have enjoyed it so much more if the cinema I saw it in wasn't SO DAMN QUIET! Has anyone had this problem before? It was so weird. When I saw the trailer before watching Amazing Spiderman 2 in the very same cinema, it was so loud and intense that it literally gave me goosebumps. But seeing it last night, I dunno, someone must have leant on the volume knob or some shit. There were at least 3 occasions where there were crazy, destructive battle scenes going on and people in the audience were shouting "turn it up!" All the cool stuff I was seeing on screen had little to no impact on me because of it, and things that would normally be super impressive came off as kind of awkward. It also just seemed to me that (spoilers-ish) every time they would amp you up like some crazy shit was about to go down with the monsters, or the monster would roar and the score would build and you'd be like FUCK YEAH LETS DO THIS, then it would instantly cut to the annoying army dude or his girlfriend for ten minutes of dialogue. I swear this happened like 5 or 6 different times. By the time things actually started to hit the fan, I just didn't care that much because they psyched you out so many times for an hour already. I think I was mostly rubbed the wrong way because of the sound issues, but it just didn't feel like I was watching the same film i'd seen advertised. I'll also add that I have little to no knowledge of Godzilla or previous Godzilla movies or lore or anything.

Of course, i'll get the blu-ray and probably have a better experience. Most frustrating cinema trip ever. :)

I don't know, man, in the cinema I saw it, during the last big Godzilla roar I think my ear drums were about to explode and maybe even the theater was shaking a little bit, it was loud and I think I said out loud "hooooly crap". For sure I felt the roar like how you feel the bass in a loud rock concert, it reverberated inside me. I don't remember when was the last time I had so much fun in a movie theater, during the last portion of it (last 45 minutes or so) I was constantly laughing at all the big ass fighting, not because they were bad, but because they were fucking badass. I went to this movie with some friends and we'd constantly look at each other after some fight and grin, no other words needed, we were in agreement that the movie we were watching was fucking cool. Now this is how you do a big monster movie!

[allegro]

What was? The bomb going off or not going off? I don't see the parallells to said scene since if it did go off, it very clearly wasn't an oxygen bomb as per 1954, yet it created absolutely no destruction whatsoever, nevermind that he was rescued with like less than 5 minutes left with no chance to get to safety if it did.

And if it didn't go off, why did he need to be rescued, why not just have him disarm the bomb since apparently he was one of the few people who could do it and it didn't need to detonate at that point anyway?

The whole thing just made no sense to me. I loved everything else though.
I haven't seen this movie, yet, so I can't tell you, I'm only saying that there has to be one because there was one in the original film? The bomb in the original movie went off and destroyed the creature and the doctor who committed suicide and since it destroyed all oxygen it destroyed all other living creatures in the ocean (in the original 1954 film).

[AgentofChaos]

Well yeah you need to see the movie to understand what I'm talking about. I'm not complaining about there being a bomb. Just the final execution of what happened with it.

[allegro]

Well yeah you need to see the movie to understand what I'm talking about. I'm not complaining about there being a bomb. Just the final execution of what happened with it.
Well, I didn't like the execution of it in the original film! But, it's a monster movie. :) He didn't even really die in the original, because look at the all the sequels in the Japanese franchise!

It appears, from these spoilers, that the director has incorporated some of the Japanese Godzilla sequels into this flick with the deliberate possibility of doing some sequels, later. Son of Godzilla looks like a real possibility! LOL

[GoodSoldier333]

This also happened in my theatre and I couldn't understand why...why were you laughing? Not dissing you or anything, I'm honestly curious.

I'm sure many people weren't aware that what he was saying was Godzilla's actual name and not a broken form of pronunciation; others i'm sure just thought it sounded funny hearing Ken's accent voice it.

[ImTheWiseJanitor]

Pretty sure it also comes from seeing people speak so seriously of a pop-culture horror/sci-fi/giant-monster-movie icon. I mean, I giggled too, because it's funny hearing the serious character saying something like "What's the status on Godzilla?"

Much love, 'Zilla.

Oh, and WHERE THE FUCK WAS THE BIG CENTIPEDE MONSTER? I even got all hyped because there was the shot of a centipede crawling on a vine or some shit after they found the skeleton at the beginning of the movie.

[Charmingly Miserable]

I saw it. It was okay. I'm glad that Godzilla was the protagonist again.

[ManBurning]

YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! That hit every spot I hoped it would. I fell in love with the shitty 1998 Godzilla as a kid, and here I am still getting the same goosebumps from the King of the Monsters.


Oh, and DAT FINAL BLOW. Everyone in the theater cheered! Shit was intense!

Haha, this movie sure puts that 1998 piece of garbage to shame. God, I feel dirty just thinking about how much I liked that movie when I was younger. That used to be one of my favorite movies growing up, I was like 15 years old and skipped class to go see that movie on opening day with a friend, and we loved the shit out of it. How were we to know? 15 year olds don't know a good movie. I just wanted to see monsters and guns, I didn't care for the story or the acting back then.

Now that i'm older, god, I can't even watch that movie, let alone think that I used to like it. I'm embarrassed with myself for ever admitting I liked that movie.

This movie though, holy smokes! I was blown away! I never watched any of the trailers before going into the movie and didn't read any reviews. I had literally no idea what this movie was about. I even closed my eyes and looked at the ground in the theater when the trailer to this movie was shown in The Amazing Spider-man 2. That's how dedicated I was to making sure I didn't know anything about this movie going in... and I think it paid off. This was the 2nd movie I was able to do it for, and I think from now on, this is how to watch a movie... do not watch ANY trailers before hand, and just go in completely blind.

As mentioned, loved everything about this movie. The acting was great, the story telling was awesome, the dark theme was awesome, the design was great. I loved everything about this movie! My favorite film of 2014 so far.

Regarding your spoiler there @Alrea (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=427) , nobody cheered in my theater, but I came close to clapping... til I realized that I was in the theater haha. I was ready to yell like "Holy shit!" or "YEAH!!!" but I was like... wait, i'm not at home and there are other people around me and nobody else is doing this so.... I would look weird doing this. But that part was AMAZING!!!!!

I was so sad that Bryan Cranston's character was killed off so early in the film. I thought he was going to have a bigger role. Too bad, his acting was amazing in this film. You could really feel the emotion in his scenes.

[Wretchedest]

This movie was a fucking joke. They totally blew it. Spending an hour on developing agonizingly boring characters. Then they kill the most important one. Off screen. Unceremoniously. They expertly build up to a fight sequence and then hand wave it for a news cast. Between DOZENS of teasing glimpses of fucking tails and feet, most of the action happens on NEWS CASTS the most impotent and infuriating means of exposition available to holly wood. The movie then spends another 45 minutes grinding us through trite bullshit military strategy and occassionally we have to watch a faceless female character justvfart around the screen. Her name could have been "wife". Because she just sits there and is married and cries.

Finally, in the last fifteen minutes we get some actual godzilla. Show up about 1 hour 45 minutes kate because thats the only entertaining part of the movie. Period.


At leSt 1998 godzilla ACTUlly featured the monster, prominently. Fuck this movie for wasting my time.

[Conan The Barbarian]

I agree with everything you said, but I still liked it.

But yea, as I sat and watched the movie and they cut away from the first battle I was questioning why.

[Reznor2112]

I agree with everything you said, but I still liked it.

But yea, as I sat and watched the movie and they cut away from the first battle I was questioning why.

Because Gareth didn't want to Michael Bay the fuck out of this film. To be honest…the whole switch to news reel footage over giving the audience a huge flashy hollywood fight scene was genius. Hitchcock would've done that. It made the few times you see the fights that much more fun. Ever seen Transformers? That shit got boring real fast. This was actually fun because the didn't give into the audience demands. Props to Edwards.

If you watch Jaws or The Birds, they are supporting roles. This was not meant to be a straight action explosion movie but a suspensuful sic fi flick and it achieved that.

Hell, The Birds had no score, an hour of just human drama and the birds didn't become the main focus until the last 3rd of the film and its a classic.

[Wretchedest]

Wow, do not compare this to hitchcock. Im a live and let live kind of guy but Hitchcock? Hitchcock had characters that were a joy to watch. Fascinating people with interesting, mysterious lives. Never this one dimensional empty bullshit. News reel footage isnt genius: its a fucking cop out. Its the cheapest form of exposition afforded to any movie, and this movie milked it.

You come to movie like this to see some Michael Bay shit, anyway. I wanted to see monsters smash each other into buildings, and here the director ALWAYS cuts away right when it gets interesting. The pot would have been sweetened with a good plot and interesting characters. Instead i got the exact opposite. The flattest, stupidest fucking characters and the movie constantly and ineptly revolves arohnd them. AT LEAST ferris bueler had a personality back in '98.

This not The Birds, this is not Jaws. This movie did not understand tension and release. This movie did not know why I paid to see it.

[cahernandez]

Wow, do not compare this to hitchcock. Im a live and let live kind of guy but Hitchcock? Hitchcock had characters that were a joy to watch. Fascinating people with interesting, mysterious lives. Never this one dimensional empty bullshit. News reel footage isnt genius: its a fucking cop out. Its the cheapest form of exposition afforded to any movie, and this movie milked it.

You come to movie like this to see some Michael Bay shit, anyway. I wanted to see monsters smash each other into buildings, and here the director ALWAYS cuts away right when it gets interesting. The pot would have been sweetened with a good plot and interesting characters. Instead i got the exact opposite. The flattest, stupidest fucking characters and the movie constantly and ineptly revolves arohnd them. AT LEAST ferris bueler had a personality back in '98.

This not The Birds, this is not Jaws. This movie did not understand tension and release. This movie did not know why I paid to see it.

Definitely do not agree with "I come to a movie like Godzilla to see Michael Bay-type shit". Completely do not agree. Michael Bay is everything that's wrong with Hollywood, as he had made people want to only see stuff being thrown around, explosions, big fights, etc, one-dimensional action/story-telling. There's people that want some more depth to action/big-budget to Hollywood movies and I think this movie accomplished this really well.

You mention that the movie did not understand tension, I actually thought that the movie had some really nice ebbs and flows. During the last fight scene in SF, there were parts where the movie was following the human characters, and you knew that the monsters were in the vicinity, fighting each other BUT you didn't hear noises or screaming, it was an eerie silence (an example of this is when the soldiers jump out of the plane, you see Godzilla but you don't hear a sound except for the soldier's breathing, then while they are on the ground, looking for the nest, you still don't hear the roars of the monsters). This was a great way to build up tension in my opinion, it made me think "what the hell is happening out there with the monsters?". And then you also have the scene in the railway bridge, the fog, the lack of score music, the sound of the owls, and then the MUTO coming out of the pitch-black background, that was also quite tense and very elaborate for me.

[allegro]

This not The Birds, this is not Jaws. This movie did not understand tension and release. This movie did not know why I paid to see it.
Dude, this isn't horror; it's sci-fi. And, it's a remake of classic Japanese sci-fi.

HERE'S A REAL FILM CRITIC'S REVIEW (http://www.richardroeper.com/reviews/godzilla.aspx), he gives it a B+.

[Wretchedest]

Dude, this isn't horror; it's sci-fi. And, it's a remake of classic Japanese sci-fi.

HERE'S A REAL FILM CRITIC'S REVIEW (http://www.richardroeper.com/reviews/godzilla.aspx), he gives it a B+.

annnnd http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/cinema/2014/05/26/140526crci_cinema_lane
there's one that validates what I said about it... :P

Also: Not a remake, a reboot.

THe movie has it's very few shining moments. It never lets itself really take off, but when it does IT TAKES OFF. that last 20 minutes was absolutely perfect. It's chief crime was making me endure it's useless empty characters. For all the little time I spent with the monsters, I cared about them so much more then "Wife" and "Japanese Scientist" and "Woman who agrees with Japanese scientist" and "Soldier?"

The story of two enormous endangered MUTO crossing the sea to bang and nest in San Fransisco, only to have their nest destroyed and have there asses kicked by a much bigger lizard. MUCH more compelling than these faceless, vanilla people they show brooding at nothing for 4/5 of a movie.

They tactlessly kill Bryan Cranston off screen, and it's good half hour before I realized that he is ACTUALLY dead. Because in spite of giving so much attention to developing and expositing his character, they never take the time to mourn him.

My concerns and my expectations here have nothing to do with whether it was a sci-fi movie or a horror movie or a romantic comedy. Dealing with this movies characters for as long as I did was a punishment. And that they set up some awesome monster fights and didn't have them actually tae place on screen added insult to injury.

[allegro]

You are right, not a 100% remake because there is a LOT of stuff in here that was not in the original flick.

HOWEVER, the original Japanese flick was hacked by the U.S. studio which added Raymond Burr and other unnecessary smarmy crap and, to this day, a lot of Americans have NO idea that they are NOT viewing the original version when they are watching the Raymond Burr 1954 flick but, instead, are watching a hacked-up American version of the original Japanese flick. A "remake" does not have to be 100% true to the original version, but the original release doesn't have to be 100% true in the U.S., either, as we saw with the original release in the U.S.

There was an interview with this Godzilla 2014 director in the Chicago Trib the other day (his name is escaping me and I'm leaving for a doctor appt) and he said he liked some movie called "The Haunting" and how you didn't really SEE what was actually haunting people, so he didn't have a problem with the absence of Godzilla.

But, didn't he ever SEE the original Japanese Godzilla movies? They're ALL ABOUT Godzilla! Godzilla is eating TRAINS! He's swatting fighter planes that are shooting at him. These aren't psychological thrillers, these are monster sci-fi flicks! GODZILLA is Godzilla, you go there to SEE GODZILLA.

[Wretchedest]

But, didn't he ever SEE the original Japanese Godzilla movies? They're ALL ABOUT Godzilla! Godzilla is eating TRAINS! He's swatting fighter planes that are shooting at him. These aren't psychological thrillers, these are monster sci-fi flicks! GODZILLA is Godzilla, you go there to SEE GODZILLA.


Yes, I OWN many Godzilla movies, including two different editions of the original.

But this also sums up my point. Most of the older godzilla movies reveled in his destruction, and rightfully so. That's what you come to the table for. This movie makes a point to avoid it. When it finally gets there its great. but in the meantime the stuff we do have to watch is a huge drag. I would have been fine with an off screen approach, i understand it's merits, but if we're watching something else, that something has to be REALLY interesting, and it wasn't.

[allegro]

Well now I kinda don't want to see this :-(

[Wretchedest]

Well now I kinda don't want to see this :-(
It IS worth seeing, there ARE perfect moments. I just wish I could fast forward through almost all of it. Don't let me obsessive need to criticize things ruin it for you! The LOOK of the thing is fantastic.

[cahernandez]

Well now I kinda don't want to see this :-(

I don't know, I thought it was awesome. Different take on Godzilla. Godzilla meets Cloverfield. Definitely worth your money. This is how a Godzilla movie should/would look like in this day and age.

[allegro]

Godzilla meets Cloverfield! That's what I was thinking!

[Reznor2112]

Jeez Im just imaging the original Jurassic park being released in 2014…"Too much damn talking…not enough dinos doing bad shit!" "Right as the guy was about to be eaten, they cut to the outside of a damn Jeep shaking…TOTAL COP OUT! Show that shit bro!"

[Wretchedest]

Jurassic Park had interesting realtable characters that you can care about. When the Jeep shakes, you care about who is in the car because you know what kind of people they are and how they interact. That scene ocurs relatively early and that scene PAYS OFF. When the T-Rex away you don't feel like the scene was stolen from you. We are witness to all that the T-Rex does before he goes away, from a variety of perspective.

Theyre not cutting to a shaking jeep, they're cutting to a safe command center across the world. And then they don't cut back.

Godzilla repeatedly denies it's audience that kind of catharsis. It's all blue balls and the characters are bricks.

[Reznor2112]

When the Jeep shakes, you care about who is in the car because you know what kind of people they are and how they interact. That scene ocurs relatively early and that scene PAYS OFF.

Theyre not cutting to a shaking jeep, they're cutting to a safe command center across the world. And then they don't cut back.

Godzilla repeatedly denies it's audience that kind of catharsis. It's all blue balls and the characters are bricks.

Never once gave a fuck about Nedry…and after the jeep shakes the scene is over…no pay off. No gruesome discovery of Nedrys body. But I can see you are going to maintain your opinion and so will I. We can agree to disagree.

[marodi]

You guys are talking about different Jeeps I think. Wretchedest is talking about the T-Rex attack on Grant and the kids while Reznor2112 is talking about Nedry being eaten by the Jurassic chicken.

Gojira doesn't care about Jeeps; he's a train guy.

[Wretchedest]

Jurrassic Park has almost as many jeeps as it does dinosaurs when you think about it.

[Corvus T. Cosmonaut]

Jeez Im just imaging the original Jurassic park being released in 2014…"Too much damn talking…not enough dinos doing bad shit!" "Right as the guy was about to be eaten, they cut to the outside of a damn Jeep shaking…TOTAL COP OUT! Show that shit bro!"
That was in fact a real criticism of Jurassic Park upon its original release, albeit a minor one. Along with very similar complaints about lame human characters. Thing is, though, after another 20 years of indulging the audience's worst impulses since JP's release, things like careful reveals only frustrate the audience desire for instant gratification. They want what they want and they want it now. Or at least Wretchedest and those of like mind do.


Well now I kinda don't want to see this :-(
It's great, go see it, and then read this excellent take on it: http://thedissolve.com/features/exposition/566-godzilla-the-first-post-human-blockbuster/

[niggo]

I was really disappointed with this movie. And I loved Jurassic Park (don't know how the comparison came up).

I think it's a great idea to let the story have some time to establish its characters and not give everything from the start away. Those are all things I'm very happy to see in a blockbuster flick. BUT, the film simply didn't use the time it was given. I felt incredibly bored after the first 45 minutes because they didn't manage to make me feel for the characters involved. It was all just so random. Like Ken Watanabe's character for example, he really didn't have any purpose except for simply being the japenese guy - even Bryan Cranston's character knew more about the monsters and what was going to happen.

You know, I'd rather have a bad story with interesting characters than a great story with boring characters. But this film was both to me, with all the usual plot points of your generic Roland Emmerich-type disaster film. Bad story (because there is nothing happening really, except for monsters attacking and another monster defending) and bad characters (with Bryan Cranston being the most interesting from all of them).

[screwdriver]

I had some minor quibbles with the tone of the ending, but otherwise I fucking loved this.

I think my biggest beef comes from having just watched the restored, original (Japanese cut) Godzilla, and really being floored at the sense of tragedy in it. That was missing here. But damn, what a hell of a ride.

[Reznor2112]

It's great, go see it, and then read this excellent take on it: http://thedissolve.com/features/exposition/566-godzilla-the-first-post-human-blockbuster/

Absolutely fantastic review! Love the last line.

[marodi]

It's great, go see it, and then read this excellent take on it: http://thedissolve.com/features/exposition/566-godzilla-the-first-post-human-blockbuster/


The 1954 Godzilla ends with a scientist killing the titular beast, but by the closing credits of Edwards’ edition, Godzilla hardly even knows we exist. The King of Monsters was born into global culture as a reckoning, but in the ongoing aftermath of the Fukushima disaster, the worst fears of Honda’s film have been confirmed, and Godzilla is less of a mythological threat than he is a daily part of our ecosystem. We’ve become a far more destructive species over the course of the last 60 years, but Godzilla’s invincibility in the face of our growing power confirms that our stewardship is a temporary charge, and not a birthright. If Honda’s film was a desperate plea for reason, Edwards’ is a plea for perspective. We used to be the villains in this story, but now we’re just in the way.

Absolutely spot on.

[Wretchedest]

That was in fact a real criticism of Jurassic Park upon its original release, albeit a minor one. Along with very similar complaints about lame human characters. Thing is, though, after another 20 years of indulging the audience's worst impulses since JP's release, things like careful reveals only frustrate the audience desire for instant gratification. They want what they want and they want it now. Or at least Wretchedest and those of like mind do.


It's great, go see it, and then read this excellent take on it: http://thedissolve.com/features/exposition/566-godzilla-the-first-post-human-blockbuster/


OK, I really wanted to leave this alone but my argument is being HUGELY mischaracterized so I'm going to give this one more shot!

The issue is not at all a delay in gratification. I watch a lot of very slow paced movies with no issue at all. The issue is the script. If an action movie wants to delay my gratification, that's fine, but give me something interesting in the mean time: characters, dialogue.... anything! The script was TRASH. None of the characters are interesting at all. They are not deep, they do not have personalities. They are worse than many characters in Michael Bay movies, period. At least characters that are boiled down to stereotypes and cliches have some kind of personality. In a second to worst case scenario like that, the failure of it is entertaining.

In the scene with Dennis Nedry in Jurrassic park, there are numerous things setting it apart from any scene in Godzilla. First of all we know quite a bit about Dennis Nedry, and we can describe him without using his physical features, employment status, or familial roles. He's this sleezey, obnoxious perverted guy. He's super self interested and short sighted and he's a bit of a joker. He's a colorful interesting character! And there's more stake in Dennis Nedry because he is singlehandedly responsible for the malfunctioning of the park. And he is also trying to leave with the DNA to potentially create another park.

So we have this stake in Dennis Nedry. Second, the spitter dinosaur shows up and it isn't designed as a pay off like in "Godzilla" the movie isn't called "Spitter Dinosaur." We haven't been waiting for this moment for the entire movie. And when the Spitter eats Nedry it's pretty conclusive. The scene wasn't building to "Spitter vs. Nedry" the scene is "Spitter kicks Nedry's ass" Nedry's fate is sealed when the spitter goes in for the kill, there's nothing more to watch in that scene at all.

Let's compare to the tram scene in Gozilla. The principal characters in this scene are: Our main character (Brody?), and Asian kid that we JUST met and have no real stake in at all. We have no reason to care more about Brody than anyone else on that train, he's that kind of empty and bland The scene and the movie at large have been building up to this point, to this reveal of Godzilla and his conflict with the MUTO. When the scene cuts, it is completely unresolved. Brody and the child are still threatened, and the fight between Godzilla and MUTO as anyone's game. The movie cuts to a GAG, a fucking GAG. What is the purpose of this scene? That Brody's cardboard wife and child are unaware of the danger he faces? Did that need to be spoken? In a barely visible offscreen shot, Godzilla and the MUTO leave the scene for reasons that are totally unclear, and then we cut to the Military Command center AGAIN. As if what the audience really wanted was to watch people spout meaningless military babble for 2 hours.

Godzilla is relegated to a cameo in this movie.

Playing with gratification and subtlety and timing is does not make a great film on it's own. It has to be done well and it has to be done in a way that makes the audience give a fuck. I could watch "The Lower Depths" or "Days of Heaven" or "Tokyo Story" all day, because even though don't feature giant monsters or explosions....ever and two of those movies don't even have any real pay off, they have deep compelling, relatable characters.

Godzilla COULD have gone the easy route and focused largely on monster battles and mass destruction. It takes a risk and decides to focus on it's human characters instead. Unfortunately that risk fails because the characters are godawful and the pacing does not work. And it's just that much more of a shame because those action sequences are some of the best out there. There was no shame in the easy route. No one was expecting "Tokyo Story" from Godzilla. They were expecting so see a fire breathing lizard smash shit.

[screwdriver]

Let's compare to the tram scene in Gozilla. The principal characters in this scene are: Our main character (Brody?), and Asian kid that we JUST met and have no real stake in at all.

I find it sort of odd that you need backstory(?) to have stake in the well being of a child. I mean, yeah, its a movie, but... he got separated from his parents (sad), likes action figures (cool!), and is adorable. And he's innocent and his life is threatened.

Maybe I'm easy to please but I don't need to know his date of birth and that that his mother comes from a long family of laborers and her and his father had a great romance and that he is just trying to get back to school so he can kiss a girl who hes been crushing on, or ... whatever. Some base level of empathy kept me engaged enough.

I don't really typically find problems when movies don't give me a 'stake' in a character. It's more often that the characters ring totally hollow or actively annoy me. These characters didn't ring hollow, they just weren't filled in. Big difference.

[Findus]

I can't remember seeing a movie in the theater that I wanted it to be over so early on. I, too, wanted to just skip through all of the drivel and get to the payoff. Then, finally, the payoff wasn't really all that great. I would watch it again if it were edited down to about 15-20 minutes.

[Wretchedest]

I find it sort of odd that you need backstory(?) to have stake in the well being of a child. I mean, yeah, its a movie, but... he got separated from his parents (sad), likes action figures (cool!), and is adorable. And he's innocent and his life is threatened.


The characters ring hollow for me. and this thing with the child is a case in point, it's far too dumb and simple and unentertaining to justify in the place of sidelining the title character that every one paid to see. And I was using this criticism to illustrate a larger point anyway: The problem isn't just the general absence of Godzilla and the MUTOs and the action, it's that what we get in the mean time is too weak to enjoy the rest of the movie.

[Rdm]

The movie was very entertaining. I also enjoyed the story and the characters.

[cahernandez]

I can't remember seeing a movie in the theater that I wanted it to be over so early on. I, too, wanted to just skip through all of the drivel and get to the payoff. Then, finally, the payoff wasn't really all that great. I would watch it again if it were edited down to about 15-20 minutes.

No payoff? What about the awesome atomic breath at the end? It reminded me of a Mortal Kombat fatality to be honest. If that doesn't satisfy you, well, I don't know what to say to you. That scene was completely fan-service, and it was great.

And that article that @Corvus T. Cosmonaut (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=647) posted refutes some of @Wretchedest (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=107) points...this is a post-human movie. The emphasis is somewhere else, the humans drive the first part of the movie (and it didn't feel that long to me, 45 minutes without showing Godzilla, I think the MUTOs in the first act made up for lack of Godzilla). In fact, I think that the scene with the first MUTO hatching was super satisfying and very well executed, the way you see the legs first, the way you see the cage give way. Now that we're talking about JP, this scene reminded me when the T. Rex escapes of its enclosure, you see the fence also give way, wire by wire. The reveal of the MUTO also reminded me of Cloverfield, how you are slowly shown the monster.

Going back to that excellent article: I won't reiterate the points made by the author, but I think it serves as a great explanation as to why the human characters aren't developed at length during the film. In Cloverfield, the characters were also not that greatly developed, in that movie you were just a witness to an event, it didn't make the audience an "omniprescent" audience, you were only allowed to see what the guy was filming. Although this Godzilla is not completely this way (the first act is not), at least the third act felt this way (not an omnipresent POV), and it worked wonders. You are a mere bystander in the destruction of San Francisco, with a larger than life feel. We're only but a small part in this world, and you have this big-ass creature that has arrived to "restore balance" (quoting Watanabe). I hope Gareth Edwards comes back for a second film.

[screwdriver]

The characters ring hollow for me. and this thing with the child is a case in point, it's far too dumb and simple and unentertaining to justify in the place of sidelining the title character that every one paid to see. And I was using this criticism to illustrate a larger point anyway: The problem isn't just the general absence of Godzilla and the MUTOs and the action, it's that what we get in the mean time is too weak to enjoy the rest of the movie.

I'm always interested when I discuss movies with other people ... is there another contemporary movie in the genre that you think did it well? EG did you like pacific rim? transformers? what do you think are its peers and what do you think did it right?

[Wretchedest]

I'm always interested when I discuss movies with other people ... is there another contemporary movie in the genre that you think did it well? EG did you like pacific rim? transformers? what do you think are its peers and what do you think did it right?

I think it's nearest peers, off the top of my head, are probably Pacific Rim and Batman Begins, both of which are superior, in my opinion.

Near to Pacific Rim because of genre, obviously. Pacific Rim had a slightly different pacing issue, where it's predictability made its plot sequences a bit of a grind. But at least those characters were entertaining to watch. Both movies are trying to build some kind of mythology, but the direction, set design, and characters make it's mythology much more interesting. Godzilla shows little concern for this mythology... it's a bit of an after thought. In Pacific Rim it's a mystery! Pacific Rim also chooses a slow build approach to it's big action sequences, but where Godzilla turns away at the last minute, Pacific Rim never fails to execute. You come away from those scenes wanting more, but not unsatisfied. Godzilla is one case of blue balls after another.

Batman Begins is a peer as a reboot that tries to place an emphasis on characters and slow rolling. Even though it is some time before Bruce Wayne dawns a mask or encounters another costumed character, We are engaged by his intriguing personality and the way he interacts with the characters around him. He is relatable, describable and has some depth. Batman Begins is also light on the action, but at no point in Nolan's Batman does the movie cut away from him in the middle of a fight with Scarecrow or Joker or Bane, and then settle on Gordon for 20 minutes before coming back to Batman. Imagine that: Batman is showing down with Bane, and instead of Bane conclusively ending the fight, the movie cuts and we here over the radio that Bane broke Batman's back. That never happens in anything I've seen before. All of those sequences resolve before the audiences eyes. In Godzilla, the most interesting character is killed within the first hour, so unceremoniously that we might not even realize he's dead! Crazy! None of Batman's major exposition takes place in a news cast, either.

[exilajei]

Sorry, but how do you not realize Bryan Cranston's character is dead? It shows a body bag being zipped shut right over his face! :p

Really enjoyed this movie, even though it wasn't perfect. It was essentially the big budget Godzilla movie I've been dreaming about since I was a child.

Very similar in structure and pacing to the original, which was fine by me. However, I can definitely sympathize with people saying that Edwards teased us a bit too much, especially when it cuts away from Godzilla fighting one of the MUTOs for the first time... but in all honestly, I wasn't really too bothered by it. The positive aspects of the movie far outweigh any minor qualms I had.

[allegro]

Absolutely fantastic review! Love the last line.

I enjoyed that review, as well. Thanks, Corvus T. Cosmonaut

[screwdriver]

I think it's nearest peers, off the top of my head, are probably Pacific Rim and Batman Begins, both of which are superior, in my opinion.

Near to Pacific Rim because of genre, obviously. Pacific Rim had a slightly different pacing issue, where it's predictability made its plot sequences a bit of a grind. But at least those characters were entertaining to watch. Both movies are trying to build some kind of mythology, but the direction, set design, and characters make it's mythology much more interesting. Godzilla shows little concern for this mythology... it's a bit of an after thought. In Pacific Rim it's a mystery! Pacific Rim also chooses a slow build approach to it's big action sequences, but where Godzilla turns away at the last minute, Pacific Rim never fails to execute. You come away from those scenes wanting more, but not unsatisfied. Godzilla is one case of blue balls after another.

Batman Begins is a peer as a reboot that tries to place an emphasis on characters and slow rolling. Even though it is some time before Bruce Wayne dawns a mask or encounters another costumed character, We are engaged by his intriguing personality and the way he interacts with the characters around him. He is relatable, describable and has some depth. Batman Begins is also light on the action, but at no point in Nolan's Batman does the movie cut away from him in the middle of a fight with Scarecrow or Joker or Bane, and then settle on Gordon for 20 minutes before coming back to Batman. Imagine that: Batman is showing down with Bane, and instead of Bane conclusively ending the fight, the movie cuts and we here over the radio that Bane broke Batman's back. That never happens in anything I've seen before. All of those sequences resolve before the audiences eyes. In Godzilla, the most interesting character is killed within the first hour, so unceremoniously that we might not even realize he's dead! Crazy! None of Batman's major exposition takes place in a news cast, either.


interesting, sounds like we just have different tastes

Pacific Rim was the biggest "eh" to me. Maybe if I had had zero expectations I would have found it enjoyably fluffy, but that just didn't happen. I found the characters just insultingly bad, generic, and cookie-cutter -- I assume by design which is fine but that's just not my cup of tea. Moreover, the movie WANTED me to care about them. Godzilla, the characters just felt like a means to anchor the story -- not the center of the story.

Batman Begins is interesting, because to be honest, I loved the shit out of that movie when it came out but ... now I find the third act so frustrating I can't stand it.

I guess... I wasn't watching Godzilla for the fights, I was watching for the overall spectacle and the sense of awe, and that requires some seduction and misdirection. The cut-aways -- for me -- generated suspense even though I knew what was ultimately going to happen.

Similarly, it's interesting to me that you reference Nolan not cutting away from the "fights," which is true, he doesn't (though frankly Nolan's action cinematography esp in Begins was dreadful dreadful dreadful). But Nolan DID cut back and forth from certain things in Begins -- it was a nonlinear timeline -- and that worked really well; that's why Begins 1-2 act are so great. Godzilla was narratively linear but as you note not perspectively linear. That was effective to me in similar ways.

[onthewall2983]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-opMerB5JA

[kdrcraig]

Saw this last night and liked it but I agree with a lot of the complaints I've seen. The cut away to the news footage of the first fight I thought was pretty jarring. Got all pumped by seeing Godzilla standing there for the first time all pissed off and the cut away just killed it. The 'main' character was pretty bad, Cranston killed it and I didn't mind how he died off screen, I'll bet there's a deleted scene for that.

I dug all the backstory, if you can call it that, on the MUTOs as I wasn't expecting to really know much about them. But there are some things there that didn't really make sense. If they lay that many eggs then why were there only two of them? A lot of animals lay tons of eggs and only a few survive but these things are pretty much invincible. When we were trying to kill Godzilla in the 50's why was he even active? There weren't any MUTOs running around at that point.

Pretty minor gripes I think, I enjoyed it enough that I'll most likely end up buying in on blu-ray. The last 45 minutes or so were definitely kick ass.

[Mr. Blaileen]

I saw this last night. Maybe I would have been more upset about the lack of Godzilla in the first half of the movie if I hadn't read about that already..but it didn't bother me a whole lot. I liked the suspense-building, slow burn that the movie had going on. For me, it made it that much sweeter when Godzilla was finally shown and he let out that huge roar. And I agree with screwdriver, I wasn't really there for the monster fights. If the movie was packed with big baddies fighting it out, it might as well have been a Transformers/Pacific Rim movie.

The last third of the movie was, of course, awesome.

It didn't really bother me, but I'm not really sure why they casted Bryan Cranston for such a tiny role..I mean he did a good job, but it was such a small role that they could have put an unknown actor in there and achieved the same effect.

Lastly, I loved the color scheme they used for a lot of the movie. All those rich greens and smokey, dusty grays contrasted nicely with the frequent orange-y explosions throughout the film.

With the sequel already announced for this, I'm very curious as to where they'll go with it...they didn't really tease much or give any clues at the end about where they could be going next.

[Deadpool]

Finally saw this today in regular old 2D. I liked it. I specifically avoided reviews and this thread until today, too.

The human characters were pretty disposable (even though only 1 principal actually died), and I guess the story was maybe a little thin? The origin of the monsters was interesting though and the creature design/animation phenomenal.

As for a lot of the action playing out on TV screens in the background - I thought that was a beautiful and very brave choice. Upholding the human POV for the majority of the movie was really fascinating in that regard. When it finally switches to Godzilla's POV, it's meaningful. It makes me think of something David Fincher says on the Benjamin Button commentary: he was criticized for spending a lot of $$$ on shots in that movie where it's the back of old-looking Benjamin's head in the background for about 3 seconds. Why spend all that money on such a seemingly insignificant shot? In his opinion, and mine, it's the casual moments, "non-money shot" moments like that which ultimately sell the illusion. Similarly, seeing the military attack the MUTO in Vegas via a TV screen gave the situation more gravitas than if the attack was front and center.

I also loved the scene on the train tracks. Very tense and surprisingly scary - in fact, the few scares in this movie were all pleasant surprises. The sound design in that scene was amazing. The MUTOS made beautiful/terrifying noises.

This piece from The Dissolve argues that this Godzilla is a "post-human" blockbuster. (http://thedissolve.com/features/exposition/566-godzilla-the-first-post-human-blockbuster/) Not sure if I agree with everything in it, but it's an interesting read, and definitely makes me want to see the movie again.

[orestes]

Cutie Godzilla with the booty.

[Findus]

Contains some Breaking Bad spoilers


http://youtu.be/y1rrxD6E7aA

[cashpiles (closed)]

The problem with this movie is that it sucks. Or rather, the first third is cool for build-up, and then when you see the muto emerge.... you just lose all hope because it looks so CG and shitty. You don't really care about the human characters at all... You just want them all to die... The only character you care about is Cranston.....

I think it has to do with a problem of focus. They could have kept it human scale and focused on a few key characters.... OR they could have told the story from Godzilla's perspective... The camera would be on Godzilla and the movie would unfold through Godzilla.

Instead, they mashed it all together... Never knowing what scale to work at... inconsistent focus...

This movie gets 3/10... 3 points given for the first third of movie.

[kdrcraig]

The first third of the movie was the worst part

[nvr_mind]

The problem with this movie is that it sucks. Or rather, the first third is cool for build-up, and then when you see the muto emerge.... you just lose all hope because it looks so CG and shitty. You don't really care about the human characters at all... You just want them all to die... The only character you care about is Cranston.....

I think it has to do with a problem of focus. They could have kept it human scale and focused on a few key characters.... OR they could have told the story from Godzilla's perspective... The camera would be on Godzilla and the movie would unfold through Godzilla.

Instead, they mashed it all together... Never knowing what scale to work at... inconsistent focus...

This movie gets 3/10... 3 points given for the first third of movie.

Speak for yourself, I enjoyed it greatly.

[Microwave Jellyfish]

Rodan.

Mothra.

King Ghidorah.

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3305259/godzilla-2-rodan-mothra-king-ghidorah-sdcc/

Yep.

[neorev]

Rodan.

Mothra.

King Ghidorah.

http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3305259/godzilla-2-rodan-mothra-king-ghidorah-sdcc/

Yep.

Totally psyched at this news!
But just curious how he plans on squeezing all of these monsters in.

Also, Legendary Pictures is making a movie based on Skull Island a.k.a. King Kong's home turf...
first Godzilla... not King Kong from Legendary... think we'll be getting a Godzilla vs King Kong movie?

[Microwave Jellyfish]

Errr, actually, it is very possible that they won't squeeze all of them into the next movie.



UPDATE: We have now learned that Legendary was not specifically talking about the sequel itself, just that the three monsters will appear in upcoming "Godzilla" sequels, not all in Godzilla 2.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=121103

Supposedly it's going to be a trilogy, so... three classic Toho monsters, two more movies. I'd like Mothra to be left to the third one, I think the MUTOs gave us the needed "flying insect" fix for a while.

[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

:SPOILERS:

What a HUGE disappointment this movie was. Cranston dying so abruptly just pissed me off... there was no reason for that to go down. I felt like I was watching a transformers movie with the human characters having a horrible plot and being completely disposable.. and getting small, short glimpses of what the monsters are doing and or fighting with each other or even destroying things. Get them off the freaking tv screen and show them to me! I thought it was cool seeing it go down on the tv's in the background maybe once or twice.. but teasing the audience time in and time out was very frustrating to watch. The effects were really great, and the monsters looked amazing. They really just need to work on the human plot and give us some more monsters in the face.

[Conan The Barbarian]

I'm sure the sequel will be filled with tons of monster action. I saw it again and stand by my love for it.

[Frozen Beach]

Godzilla Resurgence screenings in the US
http://astoundingbeyondbelief.tumblr.com/shingojiscreenings

[Frozen Beach]

There are more showings than the ones mentioned on that tumblr page I posted
http://www.funimationfilms.com/movie/shingodzilla/

[RJK]

My wife is a huge Godzilla fan, so she's super excited that this is going to be in US theaters. We got our tickets earlier today.

[neorev]

I recently watched Edwards' Godzilla again after seeing Kong: Skull Island. Honestly, I find myself liking this movie much more than when it first came out. Perhaps I was in the right mood or forgot about my old expectations, but it helped let the good things about this movie come through and appreciating the decisions made to show certain things as the movie progressed. I dunno, I just found myself enjoying it more than before and picking up on moments that I hadn't noticed before.

[Haysey_Draws]

Calling it now, Godzilla vs Kong will focus on the 2 fighting before having to team up against a bigger threat...MECHA GODZILLA. Created by the silly humans at monarch (or another) to defeat them both but ends up going rouge.

[Microwave Jellyfish]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLVTadQmRGg

[ImTheWiseJanitor]

I either want better human drama (you know, that actually goes somewhere and does things) or absolute minimal focus on human drama in this new movie.

I enjoyed Godzilla, and moreso Kong as a whole, but the constant lack of focus on the MONSTERS THEMSELVES is kind of a letdown. Not that there has to be giant monster battles happening the entire time, but...like, what do they think people love giant monster movies for? :/ If you’re going to give us human interaction, make it worthwhile and memorable, not expendable like the entire family story from the first Godzilla (of the rebooted franchise).

That said, I’m still really stoked for the upcoming trailer, and I’ve gotta say, if we don’t get at least a tiiiny glimpse of our new monsters, I’ll probably feel as let down as I was with the first Venom trailer - with zero footage of Venom in it. Maybe that’s unfair, but that was one of the most disappointing teasers I’ve seen. Give us something to chew on! :p

[Haysey_Draws]

As much as i Enjoyed Godzilla (2014) and Kong, Shin Godzilla was by far the best version of the monster i've seen for some time. I'm still excited for 2, just please make the last 10mins of the 2014 the focus of the new one, that last battle was freaking amazing!

[neorev]

Definitely looks like they're going bigger with this one...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVDtmouV9kM

[marodi]

Give it to me right now!!!

Rodan, Mothra, King Ghidorah...GOJIRA!!!

I need a time machine, damn it.

[StockAvuryah]

My body is ready for another tail smash

[neorev]

StockAvuryah
Aww man, that moment... I remember my theater erupting into applause when that happened.

[Microwave Jellyfish]

It'll take way more than a whip of his tail to bring these guys (and girl) down.

This trailer is pure magic - a total 180 on those creepy and foreboding G'14 ones, but it works just as well. I couldn't stop smiling by the end of it. This is what those Star Wars and Jurassic movies should make you feel. Hope the film lives up to it.

I wish Jon was still around.

[StockAvuryah]

It'll take way more than a whip of his tail to bring these guys (and girl) down.

This trailer is pure magic - a total 180 on those creepy and foreboding G'14 ones, but it works just as well. I couldn't stop smiling by the end of it. This is what those Star Wars and Jurassic movies should make you feel. Hope the film lives up to it.

I wish Jon was still around.

I prefer everyone being scared as fuck and the camera acting like the monster is stretching through the clouds because it's so big. Like damn, Gareth, I hope they do as well as you did.

[Haysey_Draws]

I.am.excite!

[dlb]

Absolutely fantastic trailer and everthing I had hoped for! Love how they keep that music going without any Inception-trumpets. This can't come soon enough!

[marodi]

You guys noticed Charles Dance in the trailer, right?

Well The rumor is that he is playing James Conrad, the character played by Tom Hiddleston in Kong: Skull Island. Apparently Michael Dougherty has said that one character from Kong does appear in the movie.

[ImTheWiseJanitor]

You guys noticed Charles Dance in the trailer, right?

Well The rumor is that he is playing James Conrad, the character played by Tom Hiddleston in Kong: Skull Island. Apparently Michael Dougherty has said that one character from Kong does appear in the movie.

That’s so cool! I’d love to see something like that, especially if we’re leading up to Godzilla vs. Kong after this.

Totally unrelated: I read a comment on Facebook that said “Oh wow, Millie is in this?? Do you guys think she’s playing Eleven and crossing over with Stranger Things or she’s a new character entirely??” Why in seven hells would there be a random Stranger Things/Godzilla crossover out of the blue? Do you just go through movies thinking every actor is crossing over characters from other films/shows they’ve done...?

[Microwave Jellyfish]

https://i.imgur.com/FYTnPVE.jpg

New footage (possibly trailer) and other goodies to be shown off at Tokyo Comic Con this weekend: https://tamashii.jp/special/shma/godzilla_kom_2019/

[Haysey_Draws]

https://i.imgur.com/fytnpve.jpg

new footage (possibly trailer) and other goodies to be shown off at tokyo comic con this weekend: https://tamashii.jp/special/shma/godzilla_kom_2019/

ooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH :D

[Microwave Jellyfish]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDnKuFtdc7A

[Haysey_Draws]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDnKuFtdc7A

Oh....FUCK YEAH!

[neorev]

I'm in!

[Deepvoid]

That trailer was absolutely amazing! One of the best I've seen this year.

[ryanmcfly]

oh. yeah.

[marodi]

I'm making noises a woman my age should not make.

I don't care.

BRING IT ON!

[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

(Crying dramatically) It is finally happening, it is so beautiful!!

[Conan The Barbarian]

I hope they learned from their mistakes from the first one. I really do, because holy shit, that was awesome.

[dlb]

Seeing Godzilla run looks a little goofy but holy hell, the creature design in this is top notch. Not too sure about Mothras legs but for some reason this uber-CGI-fest feels like it indeed has a soul apart from all the madness. Really stoked for this, so I might start a Godzilla marathon up until the movies release. :)

[Haysey_Draws]

Seeing Godzilla run looks a little goofy but holy hell, the creature design in this is top notch. Not too sure about Mothras legs but for some reason this uber-CGI-fest feels like it indeed has a soul apart from all the madness. Really stoked for this, so I might start a Godzilla marathon up until the movies release. :)

I recommend Shin Godzilla, that was seriously good (if a little dialog heavy)

[marodi]

Seeing Godzilla run looks a little goofy (...)

Glad to see I'm not the only one who thought that! But I can forgive goofy running Godzilla because everything else is jaw dropping.

[Microwave Jellyfish]

Yeah, much as I hate to say it, at this current state the creature SFX quality is definite step-down, especially during that final scene. I know I belong into a minority of about five people on the planet who still remembers and actually cares about the 2014 film, but it has a very similar moment, when G first clashes with the female MUTO, and the execution is just night and day. The way he walks up to her, his movement makes you think of a real reptile on a hunt, mixed with a very pissed off human getting ready for a pub brawl, then he very suddenly grabs the thing on her throat and goes for a bite, and the whole bit looks wonderful. The monsters seem to have weight to them, they look enormous, in a sense really elegant, but also just plain cool.

I mean it's not like perfect or even decent special effects were ever the thing this franchise was known for, and I will always love the big guy, even as a weird-looking cartoon dino, running the Boston marathon against the most generic-looking lens flair infested teal/orange CGI backdrops, but some of that magic that G'2014 and - surprisingly or not - Shin Godzilla so effortlessly provided, seems to be missing from here.

This is just my impressions coming from the visuals, of course. It might turn out to be the best Godzilla movie ever. Nothing would make me happier.

[Conan The Barbarian]

Yeah, much as I hate to say it, at this current state the creature SFX quality is definite step-down, especially during that final scene. I know I belong into a minority of about five people on the planet who still remembers and actually cares about the 2014 film, but it has a very similar moment, when G first clashes with the female MUTO, and the execution is just night and day. The way he walks up to her, his movement makes you think of a real reptile on a hunt, mixed with a very pissed off human getting ready for a pub brawl, then he very suddenly grabs the thing on her throat and goes for a bite, and the whole bit looks wonderful. The monsters seem to have weight to them, they look enormous, in a sense really elegant, but also just plain cool.

I mean it's not like perfect or even decent special effects were ever the thing this franchise was known for, and I will always love the big guy, even as a weird-looking cartoon dino, running the Boston marathon against the most generic-looking lens flair infested teal/orange CGI backdrops, but some of that magic that G'2014 and - surprisingly or not - Shin Godzilla so effortlessly provided, seems to be missing from here.

This is just my impressions coming from the visuals, of course. It might turn out to be the best Godzilla movie ever. Nothing would make me happier.

You're not alone, I liked the first one as well, but I agree that it was too much human interaction and not enough Kaiju.

[dlb]

Yeah, much as I hate to say it, at this current state the creature SFX quality is definite step-down, especially during that final scene. I know I belong into a minority of about five people on the planet who still remembers and actually cares about the 2014 film, but it has a very similar moment, when G first clashes with the female MUTO, and the execution is just night and day. The way he walks up to her, his movement makes you think of a real reptile on a hunt, mixed with a very pissed off human getting ready for a pub brawl, then he very suddenly grabs the thing on her throat and goes for a bite, and the whole bit looks wonderful. The monsters seem to have weight to them, they look enormous, in a sense really elegant, but also just plain cool.

I mean it's not like perfect or even decent special effects were ever the thing this franchise was known for, and I will always love the big guy, even as a weird-looking cartoon dino, running the Boston marathon against the most generic-looking lens flair infested teal/orange CGI backdrops, but some of that magic that G'2014 and - surprisingly or not - Shin Godzilla so effortlessly provided, seems to be missing from here.

This is just my impressions coming from the visuals, of course. It might turn out to be the best Godzilla movie ever. Nothing would make me happier.

That's exactly what I meant with "goofy". That particular scene you are describing is a true standout and I adored every bit about 2014's Godzilla where he was on screen.

Is there any place I can get all the Godzilla movies, and I mean every single one, the most convenient way? Or else I must dig a little deeper.

[ImTheWiseJanitor]

That's exactly what I meant with "goofy". That particular scene you are describing is a true standout and I adored every bit about 2014's Godzilla where he was on screen.

Is there any place I can get all the Godzilla movies, and I mean every single one, the most convenient way? Or else I must dig a little deeper.

I was looking through Hulu recently and noticed they had a BUNCH, but definitely not all. They may have also been part of one of the add-on subscriptions though, Starz. I got a free month and haven’t used it much, so my memory’s a little fuzzy heh.

Edit: Checking now - Godzilla (1954), Godzilla (2014), G vs Megalon, G vs Mechagodzilla, The Return of Godzilla, Son of Godzilla, Mothra vs Godzilla, Terror of Mechagodzilla, Ghidorah the Three Headed Monster, Invasion of the Astro-Monster, and Godzilla’s Revenge. Not as many as I thought, but a handful.

[Microwave Jellyfish]

Is there any place I can get all the Godzilla movies, and I mean every single one, the most convenient way? Or else I must dig a little deeper.
Dig deep, a complete collection will never see light of day outside of Japan. Rights are way too scattered around in the west.

Anyway, these posters (https://comicbook.com/anime/2018/12/14/godzilla-king-of-the-monsters-rodan-ghidorah-mothra-poster/) are practically old news now, but still.

I'm head over heels in love with Rodan's design, it's the best he's ever looked since 1956.

https://i.imgur.com/9qTDbxG.jpg

[Wretchedest]

I just hope they bring back the trippy tiny women that heralded mothra, that's like the best part

[Microwave Jellyfish]

Ghiddy bein' cheeky, courtesy of USA Today.

https://i.imgur.com/MX0f1Eb.jpg

[Microwave Jellyfish]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnxerBqUZgw

[marodi]

Me right now:

http://img.bidorbuy.co.za/image/upload/user_images/116/3333116/160606212327_snoopy%20dancing%20right.gif

[Jon]

Is there any place I can get all the Godzilla movies, and I mean every single one, the most convenient way? Or else I must dig a little deeper.

There is a 74.8 GB torrent floating around with all of the films, some of them include multiple versions (subbed vs. dubbed).

[Microwave Jellyfish]

Click at your own risk, this one's full of money shots.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHzJSvVGn8k

[Jon]

Click at your own risk, this one's full of money shots.

https://i.imgur.com/oSR8UmC.png

[Haysey_Draws]

https://i.imgur.com/oSR8UmC.png

S-SPOILERS! :rolleyes:

[Microwave Jellyfish]

Say hello to my chocolate blend.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwHpPewIzRw

[Microwave Jellyfish]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFxN2oDKk0E

[Microwave Jellyfish]

Ifukube lives!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGqeBGQs_fs

Serj's vocal chords less so, and geez, the mixing on those chants... this one might be at home in the Nickleback thread. Still, as far as musical clusterfucks go, it's a catchy one:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOO8Um_jmLI

[Haysey_Draws]

This is out on my birthday and i'm all kinds of excited :D

[bobbie solo]

this looks like they're gonna nail it.

[ricardo]

If I'm not mistaken, Bear McCreary did the music for Battlestar Galactica, I loved that show.

Can't wait for this movie.

[Haysey_Draws]

If anyone is new to Godzilla (outside of the Holloywood films) this video has a pretty good run-down and suggested viewing for the films...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8czak8Kaq3A

[Reznor2112]

Just heard the Serj Tankian track...CRINGE...(EDIT) Just heard the original...ok..got it. But WHY is this song a part of THIS movie?

I hope this isn't a reflection of the tone of the film. Also, definitely prefer the Alexandre Desplat score from the first one. Regarding the "Godzilla Main Title" track, it is a good new interpretation but the chants are annoying and what I loved so much about Desplat's is that is had some reminiscents of the original but was darker and spookier. Still need to give it another go, so I am not judging the score OR film yet obviously.

[dlb]

Maybe they wanted to remind us of the actually quite nice soundtrack album to the 1998 movie. :D But I agree, this track is horribly bad, yet has a nice trashy swag to it. Can't wait to see the movie tomorrow. Reviews that I have read so far are mixed in the most literal sense ranging from "This is what we all dreamed of" to "nuke it from the face of the earth". I hope it just has plenty of Godzilla in it and a good monster-mash. And the trailers indicate just that. Excited!

[Reznor2112]

Waxwork is putting out the vinyl and rearranged the tracklisting from the digital which I like.

https://waxworkrecords.com/blogs/news/godzilla-king-of-the-monsters
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0693/4223/files/Godzilla_Monsters_package_3_web_1024x1024.jpg?v=15 59143784
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0693/4223/files/Godzilla_package_web_1024x1024.jpg?v=1559143827

[dlb]

Oh man, got out of the showing right now and I'm leaving quite disappointed. I don't know why really, but something just didn't fully click with me. I really really wanted to cheer for this movie.

Yet I LOVED Godzilla's revamped design, loved Gidorrah, Rodan and Mothra alike and fought that the fights played out very well. This movie delivers on all fronts where the first one didn't, BUT it doesn't make this one a better movie imho. The action is a little fast paced from time to time and some of the shots lack that scale the first one had. While the monsters and Godzilla himself only got bigger I didn't get that feeling of awe I had with the first. The human backstory is as negliable as it was in the first or even more so.

The score is nice overall although the chants throw me off a bit and I thought the original theme was missused as in/or overused. It's so imprinted with a black and white version of a man in a rubber suit that it felt out of place in a movie from 2019. A variation of the film like in Alien: Covenant would have served the purpose better.

Either way, it ranks on par with the first one as a movie full of flaws but with great effects and ridiculous monster action. Bring on Kong! The monsterverse is on the right track I think and it can only get better. 7/10

[Microwave Jellyfish]

Yet I LOVED Godzilla's revamped design, loved Gidorrah, Rodan and Mothra alike and fought that the fights played out very well. This movie delivers on all fronts where the first one didn't, BUT it doesn't make this one a better movie imho.
I'd say it's basically everything the 2014 film wasn't, both in a good and a bad way. Here's some immediate thoughts I posted on Toho Kingdom last night. No spoilers:


note: I'm one of those mayflowers who still hold G'14 in high regards and among my top 10, keep that in mind reading this, your mileage may vary etc.

Just got back from my screening. Liked it. Didn't love it. The cinematography and the CGI are a major issue. Hardly any problems with main plot, I really liked the Russells and the Monarch crew really wasn't that bad, especially Serizawa - he gets one cringy quip (not the humanity's pet one) and a rather campy scene, but he pulls them off with dignity, Watanabe easily remains one of the highlights of the Monsterverse and probably the most compelling character here. (The less said about the script's treatment of Sally Hawkins, the better, though.)

The first act really sucks you in, awesome world building, excellent character introductions, fast pace, one really neat set piece, and the highest tension I've felt in the cinema in a long, long time, but once the sh!t really hits the fan, the titan scenes just... don't deliver. Part of it is the video gamey CG, part of it is how the fights are filmed. For me, it's not really about the elements and darkness obscuring the monsters, but the angles used, the chaotic close-ups, an insane amount of snap zooms and their reverse (negative zooms? zoom outs?) and things feeling somewhat weightless, plastic and almost mundane. There's plenty, plenty of monster scenes which must have sounded awesome on paper and probably looked even better in pre-viz, but on the screen they simply lack the OMG factor and the atmosphere that's needed here, and I can totally understand how some people will find them lackluster and still less than satisfactory.

As a positive counter-example, you'll all know what I'm talking about when I mention the tidal wave/airport sequence from 2014, the golden gate arrival or the atomic breath shots, but remember that scene where Cranston notices the male's cocoon in Janjira, takes a good look at it, we switch to an overhead total shot, Desplat's creepy choir kicks in, the countdown starts, and you have the sense that something big and foreboding is about to go down? Goosebumps all around, and if KOTM had moments like this to support the main plot and give some actual sense of dread it'd be so much better, man. The potential was really there for an amazing movie, but it doesn't quite deliver.

Catching it for the second time on Saturday. Really excited to read your thoughts.

Overall it wasn't tragic, but defo the black sheep of the Monsterverse so far. 6/10, I guess, might change upon the second viewing.

Also, I agree about the classic themes sounding a bit out of place at times (I also love Desplat's score a great deal better than most of the fandom), but Jesus, that vinyl Reznor2112 ​posted looks mouth-watering. My holy grail Godzilla vinyl would be the Shin OST, though, hope we get one someday.

[Wretchedest]

This movie absolutely had the same problem as the first one where the director things his garbage plot and actors are more interesting than the monsters. But the then it has a contrasting problem where the monster action, in the rare moment we are actually allowed to see it, is not as good as the equally rare monster action from the last movie.

The plot is painful to sit through all the drama and the actors... Constant shots of spectrography any time I just wanted their submarine to fucking sink. It was infuriating.

Just not a good movie. This franchise is not in good hands

At one point there's an a quick shot of DC in ruins and it's like ..
I want to see these monsters ruin DC, I don't want to show up after the parties almost over.

[dlb]

@Microwave_Jellyfish:
Couldn't have said it better. The fights are nice but they lack the gravity from the little glimpses we got in the first one. There were bits and pieces throught all of this madness that looked absolutely fantastic and great, yet the overall impression is that everything goes by way too fast and I missed shots like the one you described as well as Godzilla's arrival and the paratrooper scene.
Wretchedest also has a good point. We always arrive amidst the action.

Any clues where a movie after Godzilla vs Kong will take us? I guess it's got something to do with the whole hollow earth theory, if that's something they don't already pull off next year.

[kenz87]

They played their roles as always ... pretty boring. IMHO

[Wretchedest]

https://youtu.be/DrQnbL-VUE8

[Alexandros]

Haven't seen the movie yet, but I have to disagree with the core philosophy of "we need to be showing all the battles all the time". While I get that the non-monster part needs to be able to justify its existence, which from what I'm getting is not the case here, this is different from saying "Hey, why the hell didn't you guys show me this city get wrecked?". After enduring roughly two decades of bombastic films with ultra-epic monumental fights for the salvation of the universe, and witnessing in detail the destruction of a host of vehicles, armies, cities, continents and/or planets, can we just please allow at least a couple of monster (or superhero or whatever) films to not be full of that as well? Again, this is not meant as a defense of this particular film, but as a general stance on the possibility of diversion from the non-stop cgi fest formula.

[neorev]

I always wanted a Godzilla that felt grounded and scary, like the idea of giant radioactive monster coming to destroy the city you live in would be in reality. Cloverfield had that. Gareth Edwards Godzilla touched on it, but didn't fully nail. This movie seems like it has gone the opposite direction from what I'm hearing. I'm more of a fan of the original Godzilla. My favorite Godzilla is the 1984 one that plays as a sequel to the original. That one actually made Godzilla feel scary like the original movie. If I was the writer/director of an American Godzilla movie, I would use the 1984 Godzilla movie has my basis for how I would want my Godzilla movie to be. I want it to really put in the midst of the chaos in a city being destroyed. You don't need some big monster battle for it to be epic. You will need some good characters that you will follow and be like you're there with them.

[Wretchedest]

Haven't seen the movie yet, but I have to disagree with the core philosophy of "we need to be showing all the battles all the time". While I get that the non-monster part needs to be able to justify its existence, which from what I'm getting is not the case here, this is different from saying "Hey, why the hell didn't you guys show me this city get wrecked?". After enduring roughly two decades of bombastic films with ultra-epic monumental fights for the salvation of the universe, and witnessing in detail the destruction of a host of vehicles, armies, cities, continents and/or planets, can we just please allow at least a couple of monster (or superhero or whatever) films to not be full of that as well? Again, this is not meant as a defense of this particular film, but as a general stance on the possibility of diversion from the non-stop cgi fest formula.
I can handle cutting away from the action of course, but what you cut away from has to either compelling or funny... Entertaining in some way.

King of the Monsters cuts away to something boring and tedious, not even hoaky, just bad. But it also cuts away right when the action starts, after long stretches of drama, which is when it really stings.

[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

Just watched Kong again, and man that movie is so dam fun with a perfect cast.

Saw this on Saturday it I was entertained. The CGI was amazing with some of the most beautiful shots I've seen in the past few years in a film. Cast was dreadful with not one likeable character throughout the entire movie, with the film following tropes, tropes, tropes. At least in the first film we got 5 to 6 solid minutes of Godzilla fighting the Muto's.

[ryanmcfly]

I liked it. The human plot wasn't too bug of an issue with me. But the dialogue at times was cringy. 7.8/10

[Haysey_Draws]

I saw this (i'll post my review thingy in a bit) but i loved it! I can't fault people for not liking the story or characters, but as a fan of the original movies it all felt like a polished B movie with AAA looking monster effects and cinematography (some of the shots in this film were just gorgeous, Rodan over mexico, MG in the storm) and that was all i ever wanted from this! Hopefully Godzilla vs Kong will go full on with the monster action, but for me this was just what i was expecting.

And the post credits really threw my theory on GvK out the window :eek:

[imail724]

This film was far from perfect, but I liked it a lot for what it was. The rotten tomatoes score is mind-boggling.

[bobbie solo]

SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER









if you're gonna give me unlikable characters, cringey dialogue, a family crisis front & center that NO ONE CARES ABOUT & nonsensical, whirlwind plot devices that make me shake my head over and over, then you better deliver on the fight scenes like the first one did (somewhat) and Kong def. did. Instead, we got tons of rain, snow & smoke to hide things as much as possible, some insanely ridiculous thing where Godzilla rests in a temple built for him under the Bermuda Triangle, and that rest & subsequent dire radiation help given to him by Watanabe being the only reason Godzilla is able to get his act together (meaning Godzilla needed our help or he would have died....making him look weak as fuck imo).

how about the goofball shit that goes down in Boston? First of all, the action heads to Boston conveniently & clumsily heads to Boston only so they can have the girl use Fenway Park as her beacon (????) and then have an excuse for her to RUN INTO HER FAMILY HOUSE AWAY FROM THE SCARY BAD MONSTERS.

3/10. Brutal movie with more spectrographs than you'll ever want to see again in your life.

[Haysey_Draws]

I've seen it twice now and still love it. Granted it could do with less cuts in the fight scenes, but i adored all the fights scenes regardless! I wanna get a HD screen grab of the GK storm for my desktop wallpaper, its SO DAMN PRETTY!

For anyone interested the director has been doing a Q&A on twitter since release and revealed loads of little details about the film, and how many tiny Easter eggs are there that i missed BOTH times! Mothra is indeed alive (i did say this to my friend who hadn't seen the originals when she got super sad she died, Mothra never really dies, but it was nice to have that confirmed) by all accounts he and the team did put a LOT of effort into keeping it in line with the old movies and i really appreciate that.

[bobbie solo]

Another thing that drove me insane was the redemption arc of Farmiga's character. This woman knowingly goes all in on the murder of millions of people under the vague auspice that it will "restore the balance" or some such (as does her daughter), but then the movie tries to portray her as sympathetic by the end? Please, she would've been tried in court for mass genocide if she had survived.

The dad swoops in and schools all those supposed scientific Titan experts for the rest of the movie because...he has a background in studying wolfpack patterns?!?

i'll stop.

[Haysey_Draws]

Yeah i won't argue the plot/characters are bad...but given what happened in the originals i found this mostly funny and had fun with it rather then getting annoyed about it. Doesn't excuse it, i'm just finding more fans of the original rubber suits films have been more forgiving of it. Personally i think they should have gone full camp/cheese with the story and acting but i imagine WB's wouldn't have been cool with that.

If they can hit the awesome visuals/fights and campy fun story of Kong Skull Island for Godzilla vs Kong we could be onto an absolute winner. My only worry is the director...

[Substance242]

Watched King of Monsters for the second time with good OLED picture and sound, amazing. I'm no Godzilla freak and I'm sure I missed a ton of references, but this one worked just perfect for me. I love job well done including details, for example that news articles at the begin of ending titles (things like "corals getting better after Godzilla swim by"), with quickly "censored" words, or "digital artists" names after "Industrial Light & Magic" - I counted 5 pages full of names, then about 4 more FX companies, I think there must be thousand people involved. Which leads me to wondering how is project this big organized, I'd like to see that. You know, after some 25+ years working in IT, I'm not sure I once worked in an environment where we could pull out something this big and with hard deadline... whew, respect. But anyway, the result is one seriously immersive movie.

I also liked the previous one (2014), I seem to remember that around similar time there was Godzilla movie which was not about Godzilla :-) and Bond movie which was not about Bond, and both were good.

Then I also wonder what it says about me that the two best movies I saw this year are this friendly monster and then... Arctic (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6820256/), just very slightly cheaper one to make. :-)

<spoilers>

Edit: Or for example, I rewinded when... it was probably Rodan vs. Mothra? (had to look names up) That "bad" Rodan is winning, SNAP! SNAP! And going for the final bite, unexpected sound and it freezes with face like "FUCK..." :-D And at the end, Godzilla the Kings looks at one of them and it suddenly changes to submissive "yes master", just very minimal changes of face (?) mimic expression.
Note: Now I feel an urge to watch that golden dragon with tongs of gold from Hobbit for some reason. ,-)
Edit 2: Or on that submarine, Godzilla looks like "hey, sorry for killing your son, bro", and he's like "what the hell is this thing really...?" Not making fun, I loved that all. Sorry I can't remember names, e.g. after finishing a book I can't tell what was the name of main hero. ;-)

[neorev]

I finally got to see Godzilla: King Of The Monsters yesterday and I am sad to admit that I really, really did not like this movie at all. I thought Godzilla 2014 was decent. I was honestly bored halfway through this one and thought the special effects were godawful and cartoony. I was bored by the fights and all sense of scale was absolutely lost. Their was no weight to the monsters like in Edwards' film. It seems they were inspired more by the silly Godzilla movies. The fights were handled much better in Edwards film. At least the monsters felt huge and threatening. This film went the complete opposite direction and was just mindless action. And many of the fight scenes were just handled poorly. Sure, in Edwards' Godzilla, the characters weren't as good, but he handled everything else good. In this one, the characters are slightly more interesting, but the rest was just loud noises and flashy images Where Edwards kept it grounded, this one went full cartoon. It honestly hurts me to write this because I was expecting more from this movie. I really wanted to enjoy it, but felt overly disappointed. I'm sorry, but I thought the CG looked like shit.

[BRoswell]

Has anyone checked out the massive Criterion boxset featuring all of the Showa era films? My local library finally got it in and I've been taking a look at some of the films I haven't seen in either a long time or ever. It's been cool to check them out in HD and Tohoscope.

[Jon]

Has anyone checked out the massive Criterion boxset featuring all of the Showa era films? My local library finally got it in and I've been taking a look at some of the films I haven't seen in either a long time or ever. It's been cool to check them out in HD and Tohoscope.

Yep. It's good to have all of these restored and available in the US, despite the content that wasn't included. My only complaint would be the box set colors and size make it look like a children's book at quick glance.

If you're interested in exploring further eras, or looking for an English version, etc., that is not available on the set, this user on archive.org has at least 2 versions for the majority of the films. They are sourced from the Toho Blu-rays, and various EU DVDs:

https://archive.org/details/@gorizard?sort=titleSorter

[Haysey_Draws]

And Godzilla vs Kong has now been pushed back AGAIN to May 2021...that would explain a lack of a trailer...

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2020-06-13/godzilla-vs-kong-film-delayed-again-to-may-2021/.160590

[Haysey_Draws]

https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1350232141993541635

OK so, putting aside many parts of the world will STILL be in various lockdowns for the cinema part, WHERE IS THE TRAILER?! It's 2 months away and we have seen NOTHING! The films been finished for awhile, does anyone else find this somewhat discerning?

[neorev]

They pushed back The Sopranos prequel movie until September. It was meant to come out in March. Guess Godzilla vs Kong took its place.

[Haysey_Draws]

https://twitter.com/Legendary/status/1353387222343454722

HOLD THE FUCK UP DID I SPOT MECHA GODZILLA!?

[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

They made Godzilla a friggin' villain?!? There better be a good reason because I'm not happy :(.

[Haysey_Draws]

They made Godzilla a friggin' villain?!? There better be a good reason because I'm not happy :(.

100% he isn't the villain. In this universe he has saved the world twice, and has never been antagonistic to humans, he has just been keeping order by taking out other monsters. Calling it now, that Godzilla Kongs fighting in the trailers...not the big G...it's mecha! Now for what reason it could be anything (humans, charles dances goons from the last one, aliens etc) but no way they are making the hero from the pervious films just turn heel so he can fight Kong (and automatically mean he is billed to lose! If he was the villian no way he'd beat Kong in the end)

[Conan The Barbarian]

They made Godzilla a friggin' villain?!? There better be a good reason because I'm not happy :(.

If you pay attention to the trailer, it actually spoils that plot point. Now I’m worried about the movie.


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[Self.Destructive.Pattern]

If you pay attention to the trailer, it actually spoils that plot point. Now I’m worried about the movie.


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Ugh, you're right.

I forgot Tywin Lannister still has Ghidorahs head. Also forgot there was a toy leak about what will be in the film.. Eh, somewhat looking forward to it.

[marodi]

Ugh, you're right.

I forgot Tywin Lannister still has Ghidorahs head. Also forgot there was a toy leak about what will be in the film.. Eh, somewhat looking forward to it.

And now, you're missing Tyrion and his crossbow, don't you? Also: don't forget that the original Gorija was a villain.

Mecha all the way, by the way. That's the only explanation.

Kong is now a bit taller than Zilla. Thor, pay attention: Kong went for the head.

Love the little girl and her Kong doll. I want a Kong doll.

Finally: fuck you, Covid-19. This movie needs to be seen on a huge screen and heard through speakers so gigantic and loud that you feel the Titans breath on your face when they roar and scream.