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Space Suicide
06-09-2014, 12:10 PM
I did the honors. Let's talk, geeks.

Space Suicide
06-09-2014, 12:11 PM
That fucking Dead Rising 3 DLC though. And that Sunset Overdrive gameplay was wild. That Assassin's Creed Unity looks tight.

MGSV TRAILER. I'm dying.

ryanmcfly
06-09-2014, 12:39 PM
The Halo collection excites me the most. Just bummed that it's missing Reach. Even though it is the Master Chief Collection and Reach doesn't fit that really.

Wretchedest
06-09-2014, 12:56 PM
Everything is par for the course no surprises.

Halo looks like a dream like fuck, they consolidated all of the maps into a remastered Halo 2 engine? Bxrs and all. Amazing!


Waiting for something to come along to really get me going now.

And there it is! Fucking Crackdown!

Space Suicide
06-09-2014, 01:15 PM
I need to change my pants. My wallet will be on life support this fall.

Destiny
Sunset Overdrive
Assassin's Creed: Unity
Battlefield: Hardline
Halo: Master Chief Collection

That's it for now.

Next year I'll be getting Metal Gear Solid V, Witcher III: Wild Hunt, Batman: Arkham Knight, Star Wars: Battlefront and Mortal Kombat X.

twilight explosion
06-09-2014, 01:24 PM
Halo fucking 2 take my god damn money

Space Suicide
06-09-2014, 01:35 PM
Halo fucking 2 take my god damn money

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Shut_fe9aa8_2425128.jpg

Wretchedest
06-09-2014, 02:34 PM
Dude that battlefront trailer looks craaaaaazy

Space Suicide
06-09-2014, 02:39 PM
MIRROR'S EDGE 2!

Also, Battlefronttttttttttttttttttttt.

ryanmcfly
06-09-2014, 03:42 PM
Pretty excited for Battlefront. I'm looking forward to seeing more of Destiny tonight. Hoping for a beta date announcement.

thelastdisciple
06-09-2014, 03:49 PM
I really don't like the title of the new Assassin's Creed, mostly because I'm so used to hearing the name Unity and associating it with that damn gaming engine that's always prominent for web games and what not.

Wretchedest
06-09-2014, 06:08 PM
Ubisoft stuff looks good but niw taken with a huge grain of salt after watch dogs disappointed: those games arent going to look or play like that.

Space Suicide
06-09-2014, 06:11 PM
Ubisoft stuff looks good but niw taken with a huge grain of salt after watch dogs disappointed: those games arent going to look or play like that.

You really hate that game don't you?

The entire Ubisoft conference was weak compared to EA, Microsoft and more than likely Sony.

Conan The Barbarian
06-09-2014, 07:09 PM
So what time is Sony's presentation?

Wretchedest
06-09-2014, 07:25 PM
You really hate that game don't you?

The entire Ubisoft conference was weak compared to EA, Microsoft and more than likely Sony.

i dont hate it. I like it, actually, but i just dislike feeling lied to in that capacity. Its playable, but not great

Titanfall looked and played as represented, Infamous looked and played as represented.... Watch Dogs doesnt and thats what bothers me.

Far Cry 4, ACU, Rainbow Six, the Division all look AWESOME, but theyve lost a bit of my trust. So where far cry would have been a pre order, ill wait.

On another note. Microsoft killed it. Really turned it around this year. Good to see.

Tums206_BFY
06-09-2014, 08:05 PM
Sony's conference has started

Conan The Barbarian
06-09-2014, 08:34 PM
Anyone else having stream issues? Its completely down on my end

theburningreptile
06-09-2014, 08:36 PM
Yeah it was down on play station but now I'm on ign and it's working fine now

Space Suicide
06-09-2014, 08:43 PM
So Destiny gives beta access to PS4 first and EXCLUSIVE SONY ONLY Content too? I'm so fucking sick of this shit! They have Hardline too before Xbox. I guess since I bought an Xbox One and am getting the game on it, I deserve less of these company's worth then.

Sony peeps can talk shit about owning Xbox all the time for getting DLC and content but I guarantee if this shit was reversed, Sony fans would be raging mad with seething hatred for Xbox for getting exclusive content they'd never see.

Pathetic. I wish this practice would go away. PS/Sony gets far TOO MUCH exclusive shit from devs. It's getting old. It's trivial shit like skins, costumes and a few missions but it's still unfair.

Sorry for the rant but if this happened on Xbox and PS/Sony fans didn't have it, I'd be pissed off too.

Wretchedest
06-09-2014, 08:47 PM
Xbox did have a number of non sony things like early access to Evolve. Also: serious Halo time.

But yeah, having both consoles, there are very few reasons to play on the xbox when i have a choice.

Space Suicide
06-09-2014, 08:50 PM
Xbox did have a number of non sony things like early access to Evolve. Also: serious Halo time.

But yeah, having both consoles, there are very few reasons to play on the xbox when i have a choice.

Evolve Xbox One only beta is bullshit also. I have no interest in the game but the fact its an Xbox only beta is a joke.

As for DLC, it's timed. I don't care about timed DLC. It's shit that doesn't see the light of day on the other console I detest.

october_midnight
06-09-2014, 08:51 PM
People still get upset about that stuff? The timed exclusive windows go by so quickly, who cares. Play any one of the other dozen or so AAA titles that'll be out by then to pass the time. Hell, I was at the mall right after work today and paid off preorders of Evolve, Destiny, Batman, and AC: Unity. More than enough to keep me interested. Early access to betas mean nothing to me.

Space Suicide
06-09-2014, 08:56 PM
People still get upset about that stuff? The timed exclusive windows go by so quickly, who cares. Play any one of the other dozen or so AAA titles that'll be out by then to pass the time. Hell, I was at the mall right after work today and paid off preorders of Evolve, Destiny, Batman, and AC: Unity. More than enough to keep me interested. Early access to betas mean nothing to me.

It's nothing to get upset about in the longrun but honestly, does it even need to be an issue or exclusive? That's what I'm aiming at.

Conan The Barbarian
06-09-2014, 09:05 PM
I understand where space is coming from.

I agree, that shit needs to stop. Its not fair to the player just because companies make deals with console companies to make more of a buck and sell more systems.

As far as hard line, I'm not getting that shit on day. I'm not making the same mistake as I did with bf4, to which is still glitchy till this day.

It sucks I couldn't catch the event due to it being broken. I was gonna get a ps4 so I was looking to see what is in store.

october_midnight
06-09-2014, 09:10 PM
Meh, PS4 gets No Man's Sky, Dead Island 2, and Let It Die...which looks insanely great. No biggie, enough other games to play.

Conan The Barbarian
06-09-2014, 09:11 PM
Wasn't there a dead island 2 already?

Space Suicide
06-09-2014, 09:12 PM
Sony Conference is weak. I expected much more from it than this. The Order 1886, Let It Die and the indie game immersion is the only things worth noting from me.

thelastdisciple
06-09-2014, 09:18 PM
Wasn't there a dead island 2 already?
Yeah that's what i thought Riptide was but apparently not lol

Space Suicide
06-09-2014, 09:26 PM
Yeah that's what i thought Riptide was but apparently not lol

I guess it was a side title.

Mortal Kombat X looks awesomeeeeeeeeeeeee, then again I was sold on it already anyways. Another multiplatform game again though.

Wretchedest
06-09-2014, 09:30 PM
I guess it was a side title.

Mortal Kombat X looks awesomeeeeeeeeeeeee, then again I was sold on it already anyways. Another multiplatform game again though.

Where is the footage at?

Space Suicide
06-09-2014, 09:42 PM
Where is the footage at?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHrfBQuWKSo

OMG this Batman gameplay!!! <3

theburningreptile
06-09-2014, 10:07 PM
Uncharted 4 made my day. When the naughty dog logo appeared I squealed like a school girl

sick among the pure
06-09-2014, 10:23 PM
EXCLUSIVE SONY ONLY Content too?

Xbox bought exclusivity to Titanfall 1, PS4 buying an extra mission in a game isn't shit compared to Xbox buying an entire game. Luckily, Titanfall 2 refuses to be an Xbox only game.

It is bullshit when a company can buy that kind of exclusivity from a 3rd party game.

Space Suicide
06-09-2014, 10:31 PM
Xbox bought exclusivity to Titanfall 1, PS4 buying an extra mission in a game isn't shit compared to Xbox buying an entire game. Luckily, Titanfall 2 refuses to be an Xbox only game.

It is bullshit when a company can buy that kind of exclusivity from a 3rd party game.

Also bullshit and unfair to the Sony crowd. Both companies do shit unneeded for cheap fan service. I'm not defending it for either console - game, DLC, beta, whatever.

october_midnight
06-09-2014, 10:43 PM
That Arkham Knight footage was indeed bonkers. Can't wait to play that.

Conan The Barbarian
06-09-2014, 10:44 PM
And of course, Rocksteady screws a portion of their fan base by having awesome dlc exclusive to one console.

october_midnight
06-09-2014, 10:51 PM
It's never going away, everyone knows that right? This is a business and money talks. People have complained about DLC and exclusivity for years now and nothing has changed. Like, actually nothing. Zero. (....nothing)

Mantra
06-09-2014, 10:55 PM
you people getting upset about console exclusives ainn't got SHIT to complain about. It's us pc gamers that screwed all the time.

On that note, I practically wept tears of joy to see that gta 5 was finally coming to pc. I had started to believe that we were gonna get screwed again, just like with Red Dead Redemption.

That said, the thing I am most excited about is the Witcher 3. That is seriously going to be one of the greatest games of all time. Fucking hell, February can't come soon enough.

Conan The Barbarian
06-09-2014, 11:07 PM
PC gaming and console gaming I believe are just two different universes. PC being the elite. But yea we get it. But why not just buy a console and buy console exclusives and the rest on PC when it releases.

I could say the same shit about how console players get screwed with awesome PC exclusives.

And yes, I know it won't change. But fucking a' man, that shit makes the consumer feel like they chose the wrong system. Its bullshit. Skins is one thing, but real dlc like the scarecrow shit is just a but check to those who prefer one system over the other. Its not fair. I'll end my rant there.

Wretchedest
06-09-2014, 11:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHrfBQuWKSo

OMG this Batman gameplay!!! <3

I want you all to know, that if you check the TRMK forums, i came up with that insect ninja years ago! haha stoked!

ophelia_
06-09-2014, 11:38 PM
Assassin's Creed Unity... Hnngh. I can't remember the last time I saw a trailer that good!

thelastdisciple
06-10-2014, 12:03 AM
buy console exclusives and the rest on PC when it releases.
.
/offtopicderail

Except when "the rest" on PC ends up being poorly done ports, that's what i hate when the console games are given more polish and time yet were developed ON A PC to begin with.. yet time and time again we're shoveled with the glitchy broken bullshit.

/backontopic

Uncharted 4
Batman Arkham Knight
The Order

WE WANTS THE PRECIOUS.

liquidcalm
06-10-2014, 12:51 AM
No Mans Sky has me doing all sorts of pleasure gestures. Seriously, they have shown no real 'game', just walking about a bit, flying and shooting, but I still feel like thats enough for me.. stunning.. and very tempted by that Entwined game, which looks like Dyad.. which I can get behind.

Wretchedest
06-10-2014, 12:59 AM
No Mans Sky is really it. Thats like best in show for sure.

Arkham Knight looks suuuuper good too. E3. Is back it seems, and all it needed was a new console.generation.

Tums206_BFY
06-10-2014, 01:49 AM
I am interested in the following because of today:

-Infamous First light DLC- Looks like it could be a prequel of Fetch's events prior to those of Second Son?

-No Mans Sky- I'm intrigued by this game can't say that it'll be something I'll get right away or anything but it is definitely intriguing

-The Order- It's going to be released in February of next year

-The Arkham Knight looks really good unfortunately I have not played any of the other games. Maybe I need to check them out.

-Uncharted 4- Sorta of in the same boat as Arkham Knight but I recently got all 3 games which I will dwell into once I am done with Watch Dogs.

-New Tomb Raider. Pleasantly surprised by the last one looking forward to a new game. Guessing that isn't coming out til later

-MGS 5

There were a few other games that looked good too.

xmd 5a
06-10-2014, 04:44 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04z45SOAH5k

I want this game NOW!

Digital Twilight
06-10-2014, 06:24 AM
Rainbow Six Seige looks like it could be a lot of fun. The R6 Vegas were great multiplayer games with great longevity.

No Man's Sky looks interesting.

Millionaire
06-10-2014, 08:28 AM
Both of the presentations were just decent to me. Not bad, but no real surprises in the lot. Conker would've been it, but that just shit the bed. E3 is the spotlight where you could really make a splash and create some excitement. Give us a presentation on some legendarily long-gestating projects or something. A little Last Guardian would go a long way. For stuff that was announced last year, show some gameplay(looking at you, Uncharted). And don't do a presentation with some interview soundbites and 'sort of done' footage. If you're going to announce a new Mass Effect game or show more Mirror's Edge, have some showmanship.

Nice to get some glimpses of Mirror's Edge 2, Scalebound, Let it Die, Hotline Miami 2, Rise of the Tomb Raider(that name ain't that hot, though), Metal Gear 5, No Man's Sky, Evolve, The Order, new Mass Effect, Sunset Overdrive, The Division, Bloodborn, Uncharted 4, new Batman, and Witcher 3.

Piko
06-10-2014, 08:56 AM
Kinda peeved that there won't be any Final Fantasy XV or Kingdom Hearts 3. You seriously can't make a trailer? If you've been developing a game for EIGHT YEARS, it might be a wise idea to at least garner some attention. Let people know it's stilll coming. Keep us interested in the game that's taking almost a decade to develop. Anything. Something.

And i'm guessing the next Uncharted will be the last one... Bummer. I can understand why they would want to end the series. But as a gamer, it kinda sucks.

ryanmcfly
06-10-2014, 10:58 AM
So is the Destiny beta coming to Xbox One?

Wretchedest
06-10-2014, 11:08 AM
Turned on the nintendo presentation right when they introduced the Mii as a smash bros character...

except the mii on screen was Elijah Wood.... so i was intensely confused.

Space Suicide
06-10-2014, 11:57 AM
So is the Destiny beta coming to Xbox One?

Yes, it will. As for when or the relevancy of it, I don't know.


Turned on the nintendo presentation right when they introduced the Mii as a smash bros character...

except the mii on screen was Elijah Wood.... so i was intensely confused.

That's awkward.

I'm watching the Nintendo one now, just caught the Amibo. They're killing me. How much more gimmicky can Nintendo get with this stuff. I know it originated from the Skylanders game, initially but blah.

I like Nintendo and want to buy their products again, I just wish they had more to offer than mediocrity for the past 10 years. The flagship titles of Mario, Donkey Kong, Metroid Prime and Zelda can only do so much year after year. I love the characters but no third-party support is killing them and has been doing so for awhile now.

I wait for the day Nintendo make a powerhorse of a console that blows Microsoft and Sony out of the water. I long for that day.

Wretchedest
06-10-2014, 12:06 PM
Zelda looked great! it looks like they're bringing a lot of new dimensions to it, if that was gameplay, which I think it was.

Also they announced a new IP which looks pretty creative. Soooo I think they it was a good show over all.

Conan The Barbarian
06-10-2014, 12:33 PM
I'm in with Zelda. Shit. Two systems I gotta pick up in 2015, ugh. Its a good thing I'm single.

Millionaire
06-10-2014, 12:37 PM
Zelda looks great. And Star Fox is later today.

Edit: Also, this just came up. Love the old school sounds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-eWcrzaoVA

Maury
06-10-2014, 01:02 PM
Nobody here talking about Bloodborne? That's a system seller, for me.

Piko
06-10-2014, 01:13 PM
Haven't watched the conference yet. So, I've only seen a few of the trailers (via YouTube).

Jinsai
06-10-2014, 01:21 PM
So Destiny gives beta access to PS4 first and EXCLUSIVE SONY ONLY Content too? I'm so fucking sick of this shit! They have Hardline too before Xbox. I guess since I bought an Xbox One and am getting the game on it, I deserve less of these company's worth then.

Sony peeps can talk shit about owning Xbox all the time for getting DLC and content but I guarantee if this shit was reversed, Sony fans would be raging mad with seething hatred for Xbox for getting exclusive content they'd never see.

Pathetic. I wish this practice would go away. PS/Sony gets far TOO MUCH exclusive shit from devs. It's getting old. It's trivial shit like skins, costumes and a few missions but it's still unfair.

Sorry for the rant but if this happened on Xbox and PS/Sony fans didn't have it, I'd be pissed off too.

And Xbox bought the exclusive rights to Titanfall. Whoopty doo.

Microsoft pretty much pioneered purchasing exclusive DLC and content, and they went about it in a way that was actually frustrating. Who cares about early beta access?! PS3 players didn't get the Fallout 3 or GTA IV DLC until a point so far down the road that nobody really gave a fuck when it was finally released.

Space Suicide
06-10-2014, 01:26 PM
And Xbox bought the exclusive rights to Titanfall. Whoopty doo.

Microsoft pretty much pioneered purchasing exclusive DLC and content, and they went about it in a way that was actually frustrating. Who cares about early beta access?! PS3 players didn't get the Fallout 3 or GTA IV DLC until a point so far down the road that nobody really gave a fuck when it was finally released.

Which was also a bad practice, not saying it wasn't. Most PS only players slagged Titanfail anyways and said "Microshit can keep it." I bought the game, played it a month and traded. Bad investment for them since it sucked and was repetitive to me. PS didn't miss much, I would take Killzone: Shadow Fall over it anyday. I never played Killzone 3, I only ever owned 2.

GTA IV it was a bad practice. Bethesda sucks with DLC handling, look at how long it took for them to format Skyrim DLC to PS3. Either way, withholding any content from any party because they bought the other plastic hardware box over the other is stupid. All I'm getting at.

Jinsai
06-10-2014, 01:38 PM
I agree it's a bad practice, and that it's annoying, it's just mind boggling to hear people in the Xbox camp complaining about it. It's like when people in Los Angeles complain about how it's freezing when the temperature actually drops below 75 degrees for one day out of the year.

I don't care about Titanfall, but then again, I also don't care about Destiny. My indifference to Titanfall isn't due to some sour grapes. It's just not the thing I care about. It was, however, a huge title that Microsoft bought exclusive rights to. That outweighs the beta access to destiny, which is another game I don't care about.


Nobody here talking about Bloodborne? That's a system seller, for me.

Yep. Pretty much the one I'm most interested in, alongside Uncharted 4 and Witcher 3.

liquidcalm
06-10-2014, 02:45 PM
+1 Bloodborne.. but no gameplay makes it difficult (though the leaked stuff looks aaaacceee)

Also FF Type-0 HD.. ok Square. I'm in on this: http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2014/06/10/final-fantasy-type-0-hd-coming-west-to-ps4-xbox-one-vita/

thelastdisciple
06-10-2014, 03:32 PM
I totally thought buddy said Bloodporn at first when it was revealed.

Where the hell was my head at? lmao

Mantra
06-10-2014, 05:26 PM
PC gaming and console gaming I believe are just two different universes. PC being the elite. But yea we get it. But why not just buy a console and buy console exclusives and the rest on PC when it releases.

I definitely want to, I just can't afford it right now. I've never understood this idea that consoles are cheaper than PCs. The way I see it, I already have a computer anyway (for my job). So even though I have to buy a better video card, I usually manage to find a pretty decent one for $115. Plus the games on steam are so cheap. Almost everything I get these days is less than five bucks a game.


Compare that with buying a $300-$400 console + accessories, and then the fact the games seem to cost more. Plus I haven't owned a TV in years and watch everything on my computer (which probably isn't the same situation as most people), so that would have to be purchased as well. All in all, I feel like joining the console world will cost me an enormous amount of money, so for now I'm kinda stuck with PC gaming. I realize my situation might be different from others, but I still think it's strange how people make it like PC gaming is for elite/rich people and consoles are for all the regular folk, cause my experience feels like the exact opposite.

Space Suicide
06-10-2014, 05:56 PM
So I bought Super Ultra Dead Rising 3 Arcade Remix Hyper Edition EX + α.

I cannot WAIT to dive into it. I really love Capcom (one of like what, 6 people worldwide?) and the fan service and silliness here is awesome from what I can see.

Mantra
06-10-2014, 07:16 PM
I feel like this E3 would have been a perfectly good time for Bethesda to make some kind of official announcement about Fallout 4. I fucking love the Elder Scrolls games and Fallout 3. I'm desperate for something new from them.

Wretchedest
06-10-2014, 07:27 PM
for some reason this mortal kombat gameplay got lost in the news cycle: LOTS of new info, including styles and the setting.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQlVKjDdz48#t=140

Jinsai
06-10-2014, 08:26 PM
FF Type-0 HD.. ok Square. I'm in on this: http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2014/06/10/final-fantasy-type-0-hd-coming-west-to-ps4-xbox-one-vita/

Seriously let down that they've gone back and "corrected" the announcement by clarifying that the game isn't coming to Vita. I'll have a PS4 most likely by the time that comes out, but still, it feels like another lost opportunity. I'm happy with all the JRPG and Monster Hunter clones on it, but in general it isn't looking good for the console.

nvr_mind
06-10-2014, 08:31 PM
I'm so fucking excited for new Mortal Kombat, Uncharted, and Arkham Knight!

r_k_f
06-10-2014, 08:46 PM
Assassins Creed Unity and the new Witcher look absolutely gorgeous....

exilajei
06-10-2014, 11:00 PM
Give me Doom 4 right now!

thelastdisciple
06-12-2014, 04:27 AM
Just found out about the Dead Rising 3 PC version coming soon, HELLZ YEAH! I was so disappointed with it only being on Xbox One.

sentient02970
06-12-2014, 08:34 AM
Give me Doom 4 right now!
I used to be stoked about anything id software did but after Rage I'm just not feeling the love. Then again, maybe I've just outgrown my love for games in general. The latter theory just makes sad. :(

Millionaire
06-12-2014, 01:16 PM
I didn't like the direction Doom 4 was going when they leaked those "Restistance+Doom" screenshots, but they scrapped that and hit the reset button. The trailer is only a teaser, but it did have a Doom 1 and 2 vibe to it that hopefully is indicative of the real game.

Rabbit
06-12-2014, 05:36 PM
Destiny looks and plays like shit. It will sell well considering it's being heavily pushed on ps4 which is a console thirsting for decent shooters but honestly everything I've seen and played is subpar

Piko
06-12-2014, 08:00 PM
Destiny looks and plays like shit. It will sell well considering it's being heavily pushed on ps4 which is a console thirsting for decent shooters but honestly everything I've seen and played is subpar

Compared to Halo, how would you rank it. Also, realize that it's in alpha testing. A few things could change before launch.

liquidcalm
06-13-2014, 02:00 AM
Leaked Bloodborne gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNf5df8L9ig taken from behind closed doors events earlier this year, apparently, which would explain all those smaller leaks.
Also it looks great.

Rabbit
06-13-2014, 02:16 AM
Compared to Halo, how would you rank it. Also, realize that it's in alpha testing. A few things could change before launch.

Honestly, it's a lot like halo, with borderlands mixed in and some magic thrown together. I don't know if this is just Bungie being a studio on the downturn or the "halo formula" being incredibly dated. I don't think 343i will be able to bring Halo multiplayer back from the brink either.

Wretchedest
06-13-2014, 10:41 AM
I havent turned on my alpha yet.... But halo is looking up this year. Taking the halo 2 engine, giving it next gen graphics and adding all the maps from all the other ganes is fucking awesome!

Space Suicide
06-13-2014, 04:17 PM
Give me this fucking thing already! (http://www.ign.com/videos/2014/06/11/sunset-overdrive-gameplay-demo-ign-live-e3-2014)

liquidcalm
06-14-2014, 04:21 AM
Little bit more Bloodborne footage here.. looking very Souls-y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GCx2wW61aQ

Paul_cz
06-14-2014, 06:39 AM
Witcher 3 owned this E3 hard. Not a single other thing can touch it.

The Reason Being
06-14-2014, 09:06 AM
E3 highlights for me:

Abzu
No Mans Sky
Yoshi's Woolly World
Zelda U

Space Suicide
06-14-2014, 05:05 PM
Going back and rewatching, there's easily 4-7 ID@Xbox games that interested me that I'll have to get.

Rabbit
06-15-2014, 09:31 PM
I havent turned on my alpha yet.... But halo is looking up this year. Taking the halo 2 engine, giving it next gen graphics and adding all the maps from all the other ganes is fucking awesome!
Yah I dunno.... They are years and years late with this. I don't know how well the halo formula is really going to hold up. I used to think halo ce and halo 2 were the pinnacle of shooters but really games like Shadowrun and Titanfall stomp it