Metallica

[onthewall2983]

but...weren't Metallica in the audience for their Unplugged? "Friends don't let friends cut their hair" and all that? what's the timeline on these two events?

AIC Unplugged came out in 96, so maybe either late 95-early 96

[bobbie solo]

Look at these CHILDREN!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abDLUhw-53w&ab_channel=Metallica

[onthewall2983]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRCLe6_kBRc

[Jon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRCLe6_kBRc

Just a small nitpick, I know I can't be the only one: if I spend $130 on a Deluxe Edition, I don't want a fucking mp3 download. I'll pirate your shit off of TIDAL after I rip the compact discs.

An mp3 download card is the "whoops, forgot it's my son's birthday! I'll stop at Dollar Tree and pick him up something..." of music downloads.

[allegate]

It would be pretty awesome for them to release S&M on blu-ray at the same time just so you can have both.

[onthewall2983]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcG-htmIZR0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhWfrtIPZjk

[Krazy]

Seriously, how is Orion NOT on one of the S&Ms. Song seems like it would be perfect for what they’re trying to accomplish there.

[allegate]

https://i.imgur.com/CSefjEz.png

[rampface]

It's out there. Thy kingdom come

[GulDukat]

Thoughts on S&M 2? Came in the mail today but I haven't listened yet.

[onthewall2983]

I listened to about half of it today. They did some interesting enhancements on the orchestrations of the songs from the first one. My brother bought the Blu-ray and I may have to borrow it to watch the whole thing.

[richardp]

Really dug the Iron Foundry cover a lot. Kinda wish they'd done more of that. The setlist is a bit too similar to S&M1, but it's still good. I think I prefer S&M1 just because it has Bleeding Me AND Outlaw Torn both instead of just Outlaw Torn on S&M2.

[GulDukat]

Watching the S&M blu-ray right now, pretty much what I expected--looks and sounds good. But boy, do Metallica look old. But I guess everyone grows old, or dies getting there.

[Space Suicide]

For anyone super into this band, Liquid Metal/Octane DJ host Jose Mangin did an interview with the band this week and it was streamed last night on Sirius XM stations.

I'm sure it'll hit Youtube sometime this week.

[Jon]

For anyone super into this band, Liquid Metal/Octane DJ host Jose Mangin did an interview with the band this week and it was streamed last night on Sirius XM stations.

I'm sure it'll hit Youtube sometime this week.

Here's the streaming schedule for the rest of the weekend:

· Sat 8/29 - 10am ET, 3pm ET and 9pm ET
· Sun 8/30 - 12pm ET, 6pm ET and 10pm ET

[onthewall2983]

They are collaborating with film composer James Newton Howard on a new version of "Nothing Else Matters" for the Disney movie Jungle Cruise (https://loudwire.com/metallica-orchestra-piece-jungle-cruise-movie/)

[sonic_discord]

They are collaborating with film composer James Newton Howard on a new version of "Nothing Else Matters" for the Disney movie Jungle Cruise (https://loudwire.com/metallica-orchestra-piece-jungle-cruise-movie/)

Should be interesting. I wonder if they'll keep the original vocal track or if James re-recorded them to fit the new arrangement.

[Patrick_Nicholas]

Miley Cyrus is working on a Metallica cover album.
https://metalinjection.net/metal-in-the-mainstream/miley-cyrus-working-on-metallica-covers-album

If certain NIN fans freaked out over Miley doing "Head Like A Hole" with new lyrics for a Black Mirror episode, apparently not giving a shit about the context, then I pray for her safety because Metallica fans are probably going to freak out even harder simply for recording a Metallica cover album.

[Helpmeiaminhell (is now in hell)]

I don't follow Metallica that much anymore but did their fans freak out when they played with Lady Gaga? I get the feeling the DIEHARD Metallica fan (the same fans who booed Faith No More off the stage and booed Deftones off the stage because they weren't metal enough) and worship at the altar of all things metal at this point gave up on that band and aren't surprised by anything. The casual Metallica fan who thinks 'Enter Sandman' is great and the Black album is their first album probably would be into this

[ickyvicky]

Miley has an amazing voice, so does Gaga. I don't think Miley will disappoint.

[Helpmeiaminhell (is now in hell)]

Miley has an amazing voice, so does Gaga. I don't think Miley will disappoint.


Then listen to her cover of The Cure's 'Boy's Don't Cry' which is a disaster. She will disappoint. She will disappoint HARD

[Krazy]

I’m getting older, possibly wiser (but most likely dumber!) and really don’t judge people as improperly as I may have in the past. Go ahead and like pop acts like Miley or Backstreet Boys or Nickelback or whoever for what they are. To say Miley has an amazing voice though?...

https://media.tenor.com/images/4d06c3a18b3d51160545ff1ae5cb807d/tenor.gif

[onthewall2983]

I don't follow Metallica that much anymore but did their fans freak out when they played with Lady Gaga? I get the feeling the DIEHARD Metallica fan (the same fans who booed Faith No More off the stage and booed Deftones off the stage because they weren't metal enough) and worship at the altar of all things metal at this point gave up on that band and aren't surprised by anything.

I'm likely not very qualified to say this, but I didn't notice much mass outrage at it. It wasn't announced until not that long before the show, and it didn't get a whole lot of press after. Many of the "die-hard" Metallica fans felt they sold out long ago after, so something like this doesn't register as hard as them working with Bob Rock, or cutting their hair did.

I think more people were upset when that gal from Orange Is The New Black introduced them as just Lady Gaga. Some of the reaction to it online was a bit funny, mostly her fans thinking Metallica has made some sort of comeback.

[GulDukat]

Miley Cyrus is working on a Metallica cover album.
https://metalinjection.net/metal-in-the-mainstream/miley-cyrus-working-on-metallica-covers-album

If certain NIN fans freaked out over Miley doing "Head Like A Hole" with new lyrics for a Black Mirror episode, apparently not giving a shit about the context, then I pray for her safety because Metallica fans are probably going to freak out even harder simply for recording a Metallica cover album.

I'm going to give this a pass, but I'm not upset about it or anything.

[onthewall2983]

Then listen to her cover of The Cure's 'Boy's Don't Cry' which is a disaster. She will disappoint. She will disappoint HARD

Can't be that bad compared to the original. Yeah, I said it.

[ickyvicky]

I didn't think her cover was that bad.

[sonic_discord]

The Museum of Pop Culture in Seattle is having an online benefit honoring Alice in Chains (http://mopop.org/foundersaward) and Metallica will be performing:

https://i.imgur.com/hjBb0ca.jpg

[armogi]

Gibson did another episode of their icon series with kirk, this is really good and he seems like such a genuine dude as opposed to james and lars
This Icon thing has been nothing short of great so far, cantrell's and iommi's were also great to watch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPy8YyUgxyA&feature=emb_logo

[allegate]

Metallica Plot 30th-Anniversary ‘Black Album’ Reissue With Massive Box Set, Covers Compilation (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/metallica-black-album-anniversary-reissue-covers-1187571/)


Metallica will mark the 30th anniversary of their 1991 self-titled classic — best known as The Black Album — with a special reissue and a compilation featuring 53 artists covering their favorite songs from the LP. Both will be released on September 10th.

The official reissue will be released in several formats, including a deluxe box set that contains a whopping 14 CDs, six vinyl LPs, six DVDs, and more (digital versions and smaller sets will also be available). To tease the reissue, Metallica shared three different versions of “Enter Sandman” — a remaster of the studio original, a live version from Metallica’s 1991 show in Moscow, Russia, and a demo version dated July 12th, 1990.


As for The Metallica Blacklist, the collection features contributions from artists from every genre imaginable. Among them are Alessia Cara, Mac DeMarco, Weezer, Rina Sawayama, Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit, St. Vincent, Royal Blood, White Reaper, Corey Taylor, Mexican Institute of Sound, Flatbush Zombies, José Madero, Moses Sumney, J Balvin, the Neptunes, Phoebe Bridgers, Mickey Guyton, Darius Rucker, Chris Stapleton, Idles, and Kamasi Washington.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMeg-relQhM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4fpPBdWYAoUe9i?format=jpg&name=large

[sonic_discord]

Regarding the Metallica Blacklist covers album, there are really only a handful of artists on there that I'm interested in hearing a cover from, and even those are boring song choices. I mean, do we really need TWELVE different covers of Nothing Else Matters? Or seven versions of The Unforgiven and Sad But True? Having said that, I'm interested in seeing what Ghost does with their cover (sounded unexpectedly quiet/reserved from the preview), but I must admit, I find the idea of covering Enter Sandman to be a little obvious & uninspired.

[armogi]

I was intrigued to hear dave gahan's take on a metallica song until i realized it was nothing else matters.

[Atu]

Yeah, kind of disappointing that half of the covers seem to be Nothing Else Matters, Enter Sandman.

[Maximilian]

Yeah, kind of disappointing that half of the covers seem to be Nothing Else Matters, Enter Sandman.


I noticed there was only one of "Of Wolf and Man". Apparently, most people don't like that song as much as I do.

[cahernandez]

Pretty cool that the band reached out to Jason and he agreed to do this.

https://youtu.be/n7Uw7B5cJ_Q

He's my favorite Metallica bass player (mostly because he was the one I grew up with, first time I saw them it was with him, he actually filled in for James in vocal duties on that night, it was the Summer Sanitarium Tour 2000, if I remember correctly James suffered burns from on-stage pyro, but they didn't want to cancel so Jason sang on some of the songs -along with John from Korn, Kid Rock, and I think Serj Tankian also sang...if I remember correctly Jason absolutely slayed SCREAMING in Master of Puppets, much better than James).

Checking Setlist.Fm after typing this, it was Seek & Destroy the one Jason crushed (and James was injured due to a jet-skiing incident): https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/metallica/2000/texas-stadium-irving-tx-63d6e21f.html
Well, I checked Setlist.Fm again, and they DID play Master of Puppets on that night, but it was a medley with Sanitarium, listed on the set as 'Mastertarium', that's why it didn't jump at me at first.

[Space Suicide]

I just want the Ghost cover, I don't even care if it's their most overrated song ever they chose.

[sonic_discord]

I just want the Ghost cover, I don't even care if it's their most overrated song ever they chose.

I am very curious to hear if it's much different than the live version they performed with Candlemass. I just hope it's distinct from the original and they put their spin on it because as much as I love Weezer (I might be in the minority on that here), their cover is a little TOO faithful to the point it's pretty much a carbon copy with Rivers singing. At least the slower & quieter version Ghost played with Candlemass (which I'm assuming this will be a studio version of) was different enough from the original to be an interesting new take on it. So far, the highlights for me are the Royal Blood and St. Vincent covers of Sad But True.

[Space Suicide]

I am very curious to hear if it's much different than the live version they performed with Candlemass. I just hope it's distinct from the original and they put their spin on it because as much as I love Weezer (I might be in the minority on that here), their cover is a little TOO faithful to the point it's pretty much a carbon copy with Rivers singing. At least the slower & quieter version Ghost played with Candlemass (which I'm assuming this will be a studio version of) was different enough from the original to be an interesting new take on it. So far, the highlights for me are the Royal Blood and St. Vincent covers of Sad But True.

I would expect it to be. Copia only sang, he had nothing to do with musical input and no Nameless Ghouls performed either.

[sonic_discord]

I would expect it to be. Copia only sang, he had nothing to do with musical input and no Nameless Ghouls performed either.

That's right, I forgot it was just Copia/Forge and no other Ghouls were present. I haven't watched it since the year it happened. Based on the short preview clip I heard, it does sound like it's the same arrangement, though.

[allegate]

Metallica (Remastered Deluxe Boxset)
193 TRACKS · 938 MINUTES
* contains tracks in various sample rates
ALSO AVAILABLE IN

192kHz · 24bit 🄴 $327.48
96kHz · 24bit 🄴 $245.48
44.1kHz · 16bit 🄴 $212.98


Even with the 20% off coupon (which I'm not going to test to see if it even works) those prices are way too much for a digital box set.

[GulDukat]

Thoughts on the sound of the Black Album remaster?

[allegate]

They are collaborating with film composer James Newton Howard on a new version of "Nothing Else Matters" for the Disney movie Jungle Cruise (https://loudwire.com/metallica-orchestra-piece-jungle-cruise-movie/)
There are two versions. The first is purely orchestral and it's alright? The second sounds like a little louder version - maybe this one's with the band? - but no vocals at all.

Why it's there twice is so strange. Heck, why it's there once is pretty odd.
In January 2019, it was announced that James Newton Howard joined the production as the film score composer.[81] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungle_Cruise_(film)#cite_note-Howard_FMR-85) By August 2020, it was revealed that Metallica (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallica) collaborated with Howard on an instrumental version of the song "Nothing Else Matters (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_Else_Matters)", for the film. According to the band's drummer Lars Ulrich (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lars_Ulrich), Metallica worked on the film after Walt Disney Pictures president Sean Bailey (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Bailey), felt like Jungle Cruise was "the right fit" for a collaboration between Disney and Metallica. Bailey had been "always looking for the right match where there was a way that Metallica could contribute to some Disney project".[82] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungle_Cruise_(film)#cite_note-Metallica_Collider-86) The band members recorded their parts from their individual studios, due to the COVID-19 pandemic.[83] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungle_Cruise_(film)#cite_note-sounds-87)

[sonic_discord]

Metallica announced a surprise pop-up show at the Metro (capacity of 1,100 and they haven't played there since 1983) in Chicago today (setlist here (https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/metallica/2021/metro-chicago-il-6b8c4206.html)) with tickets for $20 and I just so happened to be in the area for Riot Fest. Unfortunately, I was already on my way to the airport when I found out about it and also the line for tickets (they had to be purchased from the box office in person) was so long wrapped around two blocks, so chances are I wouldn't have lucked out anyway. I'm sure that was an amazing experience for anyone lucky enough to have scored tickets!

[center27j]

i got lucky - it was great. setlist was fantastic, played some rarities as well: harvester of sorrow, through the never, ride the lightning.

[Kodiak33]

i got lucky - it was great. setlist was fantastic, played some rarities as well: harvester of sorrow, through the never, ride the lightning.

Holy cow! Nice!

[orson thrust]

There are two versions. The first is purely orchestral and it's alright? The second sounds like a little louder version - maybe this one's with the band? - but no vocals at all.

Why it's there twice is so strange. Heck, why it's there once is pretty odd.

That is funny. The right collaboration for Metallica and Disney was Jungle Cruise lol. Like bread and butter.

[allegate]

I'm listening to the bootleg from the Chicago show - the one from Metallica, mind you - and are they usually this minimal? I've heard better audience recordings.

[Helpmeiaminhell (is now in hell)]

Hetfield and the boys seem to be in good form on this tour. Even Lars seems like he has been practicing drumming during the hiatus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYaVI9I5bCI

[armogi]

Hetfield and the boys seem to be in good form on this tour. Even Lars seems like he has been practicing drumming during the hiatus

saw pearl jam over the weekend and it's a similar case, maybe this break did magic on many of these pre 2000 guys (for lack of a better term)

[Kodiak33]

saw pearl jam over the weekend and it's a similar case, maybe this break did magic on many of these pre 2000 guys (for lack of a better term)

Ohana Encore? I was there the previous weekend!

[armogi]

Ohana Encore? I was there the previous weekend!


yes, first concerts since shit covid and one of my favorite bands in fine form, that was an awesome feeling.

[allegate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-zEQCmlu2A


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8sJ2IFqkdA

not as bad as I thought it would be. I see on discogs (https://www.discogs.com/release/19797478-Metallica-Tribute-To-Chris-Cornell) it's starting at $110 so I guess I'll have to make do with youtube for now.

[LaneSax]

https://youtu.be/GLQRgITvXAg

[bobbie solo]

I like what they did with the setlist for the first night of the 40th anniversary shows (although they just can't let Sad But True die, can they?). Second night, not so much.

[Fadeout54321]

It's just been announced that Metallica is playing Boston Calling on Sunday May 29th. Only 3 passes are available now but they will sell single day passes at some point. My wife and I had single day tickets to see Rage headline before covid stopped that from happening. I think we paid like $100 or $150 a ticket for the single day, can't remember exactly. Just an FYI if anyone is interested in attending.

[MrLobster]

I picked up that 2021 180g remastered Metallica (self-titled) release... it's very good. The guitars sound more dynamic to my ears (in certain parts). I dig it.

[allegate]

I was listening to a podcast the other day with someone who worked at Harmonix back when Rock Band was huge. He said that the mixes made for the game from the masters actually had bass in them - I don't recall, it's been awhile - but it caused people to clamor for the full album mixed like that.

Instead:
They decided not to adjust the mix for the remastered 2019 reissue, saying: "These records are a product of a certain time in life; they're snapshots of history and they're part of our story ... And Justice for All could use a little more low end and St. Anger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Anger) could use a little less tin snare drum, but those things are what make those records part of our history."[30] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...And_Justice_for_All_(album)#cite_note-30)

[MrLobster]

I was listening to a podcast the other day

I get that. And unless they put a lot of effort into advertising that these are the "FAN FAVOURITE" mixes for rerelease (which, to be honest, could still happen), I see why they'd want to keep it original, as it were. Still, I may just pick up and original pressing of ...And Justice to compare against. Not like they are expensive...

[allegate]

at this point it's like releasing the OG Star Wars: everyone who is a fan knows how much they'd pay for it and the people who control those decisions keep leaving money on the table.

[armogi]

metallica.com has a few copies of the hammett ep for those who are not near a store

[rampface]

Portals was much better than it deserved to be! James and Lars need to let him write on the next record

[Jazzkokehead]

I know I'm late on this, but Kirk Hammett's EP is fantastic.

[allegate]

Metallica Gets Its Own Metal-Themed Pro-Ject Turntable, and I Will Fight You for One
(https://www.cnet.com/tech/home-entertainment/metallica-gets-its-own-metal-themed-pro-ject-turntable-and-i-will-fight-you-for-one/)

https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/5d469770ea0865942ad3d5c7cd20f65c7ac2469f/2022/05/18/8a08e97a-c951-45af-a7bf-dff624aa0d21/metallica-tt-hardwired-record.jpg?auto=webp&fit=crop&height=488&width=868


The Metallica Limited Edition Turntable will be available this summer for $1,599.
fuck off.

[chuckrh]

Metallica Gets Its Own Metal-Themed Pro-Ject Turntable, and I Will Fight You for One
(https://www.cnet.com/tech/home-entertainment/metallica-gets-its-own-metal-themed-pro-ject-turntable-and-i-will-fight-you-for-one/)

https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/5d469770ea0865942ad3d5c7cd20f65c7ac2469f/2022/05/18/8a08e97a-c951-45af-a7bf-dff624aa0d21/metallica-tt-hardwired-record.jpg?auto=webp&fit=crop&height=488&width=868


fuck off.
A bargain at twice the price! :rolleyes:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NofDpJcuIw8

[AndItKeepsRepeating]

I don't know that the band that released the most bricked album in the peak of the loudness war, not to mention another album on which they mixed their bass player out, should be selling turntables

[poinoup]

*Gene Simmons takes notes*

[Jord]

Perfect to spin next years St Anger 20th Anniversary Reissue on.

[chuckrh]

Perfect to spin next years St Anger 20th Anniversary Reissue on.
Now we can listen to James Hetfield whine in ulta hi fi. Not my favorite Metallica record but not so good Metallica is still better than a lot of things.

[HelenMurphy81]

After all these re-issues and anniversaries am I waiting for their new CD. It's been a long while since Hardwired and they have practised quite a bit. They are playing much better and sound really good too. It's official they are working on it, but I'm curious how is it going to be. Hopefully more thrashy and a little bit of Black Album. They still got it, just have to prove it through new songs.

[Atu]

To be honest, I'd like them to make an attempt on another Load-like album. The last couple albums, while not bad, for me seem to be missing some space and meat - they're too dry and condensed. And please!, allow your bassist to write more...

[center27j]

for me seem to be missing some space and meat - they're too dry and condensed. And please!, allow your bassist to write more...

this is spot on.

there are no peaks and valleys in any of their songs anymore, all just simple one direction. hardwired esp was just that machine gun snare all album, pretty boring.

fidelman is brutal with them, he needs to go. they need someone like joe baressi, let the instruments breathe.

[allegate]

I say Bob Rock or Bust!!

lolno

[AndItKeepsRepeating]

There's one pretty good album's worth of songs across Load and ReLoad.

Back in high school in the early 00s I had a burned CD with the same complied into the flow of one album and Metallica - Completely Loaded scribbled across it. Might have to recreate this on a Spotify play list now.

[Fadeout54321]

Anyone else go to the show last night? It was to remember the lives of Jon and Marsha Zazula, founders OF Megaforce Records and the guys that broke Metallica. They only played songs from 83-84. It was an unbelievable show!

[rampface]

Amazing setlist

[LaneSax]

https://youtu.be/_u-7rWKnVVo

[ryanmcfly]

This is interesting. Gonna listen a few more times before I decide for sure how I feel about it.

[allegate]

1) 72 Seasons
2) Sleepwalk My Life Away
3) Crown Of Barbed Wire
4) Too Far Gone?
5) Shadows Follow
6) You Must Burn!
7) Chasing Light
8) Room Of Mirrors
9) Screaming Su1c1de
10) Lux Æterna
11) If Darkness Had A Son
12) Inamoratawell, those are titles of songs, yes. Screaming Su1c1de is a choice.

edit:

https://twitter.com/Metallica/status/1597246438165336064

[ryanmcfly]

That album cover is atrocious

[tony.parente]

Why does St Louis only get Kid Rock, Journey and Metallica shows every tour cycle lmao

[sonic_discord]

That album cover is atrocious

It's much better than the cover for Hardwired, IMO. I like the new song! Nice reverb on the vocals, which are mixed in a more old-school Metallica kind of way.

[ryanmcfly]

No Nashville is sad but I expect them to play Louder than life next year which is just as close as Nashville for me. Not gonna miss them if they’re there. Really enjoyed the hardwired show I went to in Dallas back in 2017.

[chuckrh]

You gotta think this tour is going to be real expensive for 2 day tickets.

[fillow]

Why are all those double dates scheduled two days apart?

[virushopper]

Why are all those double dates scheduled two days apart?
They're old?

[chuckrh]

Why are all those double dates scheduled two days apart?
Because they can? 2 days in a stadium really doesn't sound like all that much fun to me. The opening acts are good though & it's nice they change them over the 2 shows. I've seen Metallica a ton but I think I'm going to sit this one out. I'd be more tempted if they were doing arena shows.

[AndItKeepsRepeating]

Oh my I had forgotten the Abbott-less Pantera revival was gonna be a thing (insert vomit emoji here)

[AndItKeepsRepeating]

This new single sounds like it's straight off Garage Inc.

Which made my ears think it was not actually a Metallica song the whole time I listened to it, even though my brain knew better.

And, at this point, having a new Metallica song not sound exactly like just another Metallica song is a good thing.

[chuckrh]

I give Metallica props for doing something innovative. I've been going to Metallica shows since Ride the Lightning but I'm going to skip this one. Stadium shows are just too much for me on a physical & financial basis. I'd be more tempted by a cool arena show. I saw them last tour & it was real good though. I'm a little irked about the necessity of putting expensive tickets on sale during the holidays. The show in Seattle is Labor Day weekend, not in 2 months. I hear that good seats for this tour are going to be in the neighborhood of $800 for the 2 shows. That's way out of my budget even if I got lesser tickets. I'd rather spend the money taking care of my little kid friends for Xmas. I try to be a good uncle. :)

[armogi]

went to the metallica40 thing in SF which was in an arena, that was fun, I had not seen metallica for a few years at that point so i enjoyed it but yeah, 2 nights in a stadium? hell no.

also, WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO FINALLY TURN TO BASS ON THESE STUDIO SONGS?

[chuckrh]

went to the metallica40 thing in SF which was in an arena, that was fun, I had not seen metallica for a few years at that point so i enjoyed it but yeah, 2 nights in a stadium? hell no.

also, WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO FINALLY TURN TO BASS ON THESE STUDIO SONGS?

Never? ;)

[henryeatscereal]

Man that album cover hurts my eyes!

[Shadaloo]

That sure is some yellow.

I dig the single. There's definitely some good gold-school vibes to this.

My concern is that at well over an hour of music it's going to be a slog to listen to, which was the main issue I had with Hardwired (and Load back in the day). Still, I'm always down.

[allegate]

this is hilarious for some reason

https://i.redd.it/ugdxvieuit2a1.png

[sonic_discord]

I kinda wish they would've used the full Metallica logo. There's space for it and they could've applied a burnt aesthetic to it, like so:

https://i.imgur.com/iyNQQRe.jpg

[thelastdisciple]

Depending on how this album is received and the use of yellow, wonder if it might end up being dubbed The Piss Album.

[chuckrh]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7txygGSM4OY

[sonic_discord]

Well, I got my tickets for the two Minneapolis shows. One of my friends sprang for Snake Pit tickets (they're in the center of the circular stage), but I could not justify the insane price tag ($1,400 per ticket!!), so my other friend and I just got regular Floor/GA tickets, which were still $415 a piece after fees & taxes. I know it's for two shows, but god DAMN that's expensive. Kinda sucks that it's a year and 9 months away, but I'm excited.

[sonic_discord]

Depending on how this album is received and the use of yellow, wonder if it might end up being dubbed The Piss Album.

Reload is already the piss album. Well, piss & blood.

[allegate]

Found out about ...and Justice for Jason while listening to a Metallica podcast so I downloaded it. It's really weird hearing how full the songs sound when there's a bass guitar included in the mix. amazing stuff.

and that it exists means the bass part hasn't been lost, they really could remix it and give it a proper release, but they still have their weird hateon for Jason.

[chuckrh]

Found out about ...and Justice for Jason while listening to a Metallica podcast so I downloaded it. It's really weird hearing how full the songs sound when there's a bass guitar included in the mix. amazing stuff.

and that it exists means the bass part hasn't been lost, they really could remix it and give it a proper release, but they still have their weird hateon for Jason.
Jason's a nice guy, at least when I met him. He performed well under difficult circumstances. Whoever replaced Cliff was going to have a hard time.

[AndItKeepsRepeating]

It seems like they (Jason and the rest of Metallica) actually get along these days and have mostly if not completely buried the hatchet.

[chuckrh]

Just realized that the Seattle show isn't until Labor Day weekend 2024. That's ridiculous putting tickets on sale almost 2 years ahead of time. I was pissed that they put tickets on sale now when I thought the show was in 2023. Out of control greed.

[center27j]

Just realized that the Seattle show isn't until Labor Day weekend 2024. That's ridiculous putting tickets on sale almost 2 years ahead of time. I was pissed that they put tickets on sale now when I thought the show was in 2023. Out of control greed.

agree 100% - i know why theryre doing it, but no way in hell im giving them (or anyone else) an interest free loan for almost 2 yrs. f that

[mfte]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qONdZg95Vi8

[chuckrh]

I read about Lars saying he can't play Rush material. Ya, no shit haha.

[LaneSax]

https://youtu.be/ZDyDpdFZHBo

[sonic_discord]

I like Lux Æterna more, but both of these new songs are pretty good and have me excited and hopeful that the rest of the new album will be good.

[bobbie solo]

the new one is more Mehtallica than the first single. If the tempo was faster this one would be a lot better.

[center27j]

Lets be honest, both of these singles are as basic as it gets (which is pretty much in line with their output post black album). The ominous intros, the huge range, the mid tempo changes….all gone. Heavy rock by numbers, and the nonstop snare fills, oh my god, painful.

[Jinsai]

new Metallica kicks ass... and finally, Lars' snare sound is good again.

[LaneSax]

https://youtu.be/x_t53a5Ons0

[cdm]

new Metallica kicks ass... and finally, Lars' snare sound is good again.

This isn't new but it cracks me up every time I see it.

Ckb-9qtARy-

[Toadflax]

I was lukewarm on the new songs at first, but after giving them several listens, I'm pretty hooked and psyched for the new album.

Question for you all. I basically dropped off for the past 25 years, so I don't really know much from the last three albums. I've been listening to Death Magnetic and Hardwired in bits and pieces lately, but nothing has really stuck yet. Are there any specific songs from those albums (or even St. Anger) I should be focusing in on to help get into them a bit more easily? Are there any non-album gems floating around I should be aware of? Thanks!

[sonic_discord]

I was lukewarm on the new songs at first, but after giving them several listens, I'm pretty hooked and psyched for the new album.

Question for you all. I basically dropped off for the past 25 years, so I don't really know much from the last three albums. I've been listening to Death Magnetic and Hardwired in bits and pieces lately, but nothing has really stuck yet. Are there any specific songs from those albums (or even St. Anger) I should be focusing in on to help get into them a bit more easily? Are there any non-album gems floating around I should be aware of? Thanks!

Gems from Death Magnetic:
That Was Just Your Life
The Day That Never Comes (it's the single, but it's a genuinely great song)
The Unforgiven III (check your preconceived notions of a third entry at the door because this song is truly awesome)
The Judas Kiss

Gems from Hardwired...to Self Destruct:
Moth Into Flame
Dream No More (has a very Load/Reload-era sound in the best way)
Halo on Fire (One of my absolute favorite Metallica songs)
Spit Out the Bone (easily the best, most "classic Metallica" song since the Black Album)

Honestly, both of those albums are pretty great, IMO.

[Fadeout54321]

I was lukewarm on the new songs at first, but after giving them several listens, I'm pretty hooked and psyched for the new album.

Question for you all. I basically dropped off for the past 25 years, so I don't really know much from the last three albums. I've been listening to Death Magnetic and Hardwired in bits and pieces lately, but nothing has really stuck yet. Are there any specific songs from those albums (or even St. Anger) I should be focusing in on to help get into them a bit more easily? Are there any non-album gems floating around I should be aware of? Thanks!

I called it quits on them after reload and Death Magnetic got me back into them. I personally stay far away from anything after the Black Album and before Death Magnetic. Load, Reload, St Anger, Lulu I just can't do. For me to really get into a Metallica album I like the cover to cover experience. There are highs and lows but the complete package of the album usually out weighs any of the lows. Hard Wired in opinion is way better than Death Magnetic. I think the short answer to your questions is to listen to these albums from start to finish, it's the best experience.

[Toadflax]

Gems from Death Magnetic:
That Was Just Your Life
The Day That Never Comes (it's the single, but it's a genuinely great song)
The Unforgiven III (check your preconceived notions of a third entry at the door because this song is truly awesome)
The Judas Kiss

Gems from Hardwired...to Self Destruct:
Moth Into Flame
Dream No More (has a very Load/Reload-era sound in the best way)
Halo on Fire (One of my absolute favorite Metallica songs)
Spit Out the Bone (easily the best, most "classic Metallica" song since the Black Album)


I called it quits on them after reload and Death Magnetic got me back into them. I personally stay far away from anything after the Black Album and before Death Magnetic. Load, Reload, St Anger, Lulu I just can't do. For me to really get into a Metallica album I like the cover to cover experience. There are highs and lows but the complete package of the album usually out weighs any of the lows. Hard Wired in opinion is way better than Death Magnetic. I think the short answer to your questions is to listen to these albums from start to finish, it's the best experience.

Awesome, thank you both! I have been trying to listen to them through, but then sometimes that gets cut off, and I end up just listening to the first few songs, so having a couple to latch onto is most appreciated!

[bobbie solo]

Gems from Death Magnetic:

Gems from Hardwired...to Self Destruct:
Spit Out the Bone (easily the best, most "classic Metallica" song since the Black Album)

fixed that for ya ;-)

[rampface]

Death Magnetic is legitimately great

[allegate]

The Guitar Hero mix of Death Magnetic is what you should be looking for, BTW. A lot less brickwalling there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu46pbIEAtU

[think i'm a fire engine]

I was lukewarm on the new songs at first, but after giving them several listens, I'm pretty hooked and psyched for the new album.

Question for you all. I basically dropped off for the past 25 years, so I don't really know much from the last three albums. I've been listening to Death Magnetic and Hardwired in bits and pieces lately, but nothing has really stuck yet. Are there any specific songs from those albums (or even St. Anger) I should be focusing in on to help get into them a bit more easily? Are there any non-album gems floating around I should be aware of? Thanks!

I looooooooved Death Magnetic. That Was just Your Life. The End of the Line. Broken, Beat, and Scarred are among the standouts along with my personal favorite All Nightmare Long. But to be fair, I like the thrashier side of Metallica. Stuff like The Day that Never Comes or the Unforgiven III do kinda balance out the album if you listen to it as a whole, but they're definitely on the more ballad-y side. Okay if you're into that sort of thing I guess.

St. Anger might be cheesy af, but I'll never not love Frantic.

[cdm]

Metallica Have Bought Their Own Vinyl Pressing Plant
https://pitchfork.com/news/metallica-have-bought-their-own-vinyl-pressing-plant/ (https://pitchfork.com/news/metallica-have-bought-their-own-vinyl-pressing-plant/)

Can we link to pitchfork? lol

[simonn]

St. Anger might be cheesy af, but I'll never not love Frantic.

Agreed. Sweet Amber is also a great song. I also loved the live run through they did of the album, which was kinda Trujillo's baptism of fire....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfiEtTBW9WQ&t=2652s

Mind you, it does also contain their undoubted (for me) worst song ever....Invisible Kid.

I like the majority of Hardwired and Death Magnetic, but yeah, the brickwalling on DM was so bad that the mastering engineer, Ted Jensen, refused to allow his name as a credit on the album. TDTNC is a great song ruined by a terrible mix.

[LaneSax]

The Unnamed Feeling is another gem on St Anger

[Toadflax]

I looooooooved Death Magnetic. That Was just Your Life. The End of the Line. Broken, Beat, and Scarred are among the standouts along with my personal favorite All Nightmare Long. But to be fair, I like the thrashier side of Metallica. Stuff like The Day that Never Comes or the Unforgiven III do kinda balance out the album if you listen to it as a whole, but they're definitely on the more ballad-y side. Okay if you're into that sort of thing I guess.

Yeah, I've been thinking about it, and I think what was so incredible about early Metallica was this blending of a sort of classical style (classical guitar, specifically) with metal. And then as metal evolved, they evolved with it, so then it became this blend of classical guitar, 80s hair metal, and 90s hard rock.

With the past 20 or so years, it seems like they've mostly just stuck to thrashier stuff you're mentioning. I like that stuff, too, but when that's all they're doing, it doesn't really separate them from other bands. Granted, even the thrashy songs have a lot of impressive only-Metallica-does-this kind of stuff, but the tendency to focus mostly on that is maybe what's kept them from really being celebrated as much as they used to be. The Day That Never Comes has absolutely stood out to me as I've been going through these albums. It has that classical/ballady side to it, but then it goes fucking nuts and kicks metal ass for like 4 minutes. It gives me those One or Fade To Black feels.

If I have any complaints about the new songs, is that they're all hitting kind of the same note, but they're also doing it damn well, so I won't be disappointed if the new album is mostly just that same note, but I'm really hoping for some of that range that made them really stand out when they were first gaining popularity.

[mfte]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OeC9CGtWcM

[LaneSax]

Not feeling these new songs except for Lux
hope they grow on me with time

[october_midnight]

Playing all five nights this week on Jimmy Kimmel.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvXRpO4yTO0


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeKtCya1X2E

[Toadflax]

LÆK

[allegate]

Wow, technically it's already the 14th somewhere so I guess it didn't leak until release.

[richardp]

Easily my favorite album of Metallica's from the Trujillo lineup. Shit is bangin'

[GulDukat]

3.5/5 review from the AMG. (https://www.allmusic.com/album/72-seasons-mw0003880668)

[Zimbo]

Pitchfork's review is so dumb. It's everything you wanted in a Metalica album...Too much more." Like fuck off.

[GulDukat]

I actually thought that Pitchfork's review (https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/metallica-72-seasons/)was fair and well-written. Most of the time when I read their reviews my eyes roll back so far they rotate 360*.

[Toadflax]

My first listen thoughts are that it's not what I was hoping for dynamics-wise (see my post a page back). It's an hour and 20 minutes of the same general idea, which just seems to be what Metallica is these days. And that's fine, but I think it marks the difference between Metallica being the groundbreaking/interesting/innovative band they once were vs. being a band that's just really damn good at one thing.

But on that note, the whole thing sounds really solid so far! The singles grew on me like crazy after several listens, so I'm really looking forward to spending the coming days and weeks absorbing the album as a whole. It's really nice to care about a band again after spending 20 years not really paying attention to them. I'm also planning on hitting one of their shows this fall, which will be my first time seeing them since... wait for it... Woodstock '99.

Also, one additional thought I had is that James' voice sounds so damn good. In an age where the Trents and the Maynards are no longer able to hit some of the higher notes in their catalogue, James seems to still have access to his full range and the endurance to maintain those notes for long periods of time. Really impressive.

[ViN]

https://vsmusick.wordpress.com/2023/04/14/i-listened-to-the-new-metallica-album-so-you-wont-have-to/

If anyone really wants to read my review. It's almost as overly long and rambling as 72 Seasons by Metallica itself.

[LaneSax]

Like Hardwired, 72 Seasons ends with the best track on the album

[Toadflax]

I'm surprised to see people criticize the length of the songs/album. Maybe it's the NIN/Tool/Floyd/prog fan in me, but I come from a place of loving long tracks and especially long albums. If Metallica is only going to release a new album every 7-8 years, I definitely want it to be big and meaty. Looking at the last 25 years, every album has been 75-78 minutes long, so it shouldn't really come as a shock to anyone.

But I keep thinking about that dynamics thing I mentioned. I wonder if the reason these songs feel longer is because they don't really go anywhere. Take a song like One (which I know is cheating): a runtime of 7:26 and goes on this epic journey with movements from soft and thoughtful to heavy and in your face as fuck. Pretty much every song on this album starts heavy and stays that way the whole way through, and the only reason the songs are long is the same riffs are stretched out for solos and instrumental breaks. Even Inamorata at 11 minutes long only has a couple dynamic shifts.

For those most part, I don't personally mind that, as I've come to accept that's just what Metallica is these days. And I'd still rather a song I'm enjoying go on for 7 minutes than be over too soon. But I do get how the tracks and album as a whole can feel overly long to some people, especially reviewers, who have to listen to the whole damn thing whether they want to or not. :D

[rampface]

I think of the three Rob records, 72 Seasons is easily the least dynamic. My thing is, it sounds like everybody recorded all their parts in a single day which gives each track the same vibe. All the guitars sound like they were recorded in a single session. All the bass parts. All the drum parts. The songs don't have any identity. Go listen to Hardwired again. There's a lot of different tones within a single song and there's none of that on 72 Seasons. The fanboy in me is still enjoying the album but if I'm being critical, it's very mid for Metallica. I know they can do better. Death Magnetic is proof (holy shit that was 15 years ago!!!)

[LaneSax]

I think of the three Rob records, 72 Seasons is easily the least dynamic. My thing is, it sounds like everybody recorded all their parts in a single day which gives each track the same vibe. All the guitars sound like they were recorded in a single session. All the bass parts. All the drum parts. The songs don't have any identity. Go listen to Hardwired again. There's a lot of different tones within a single song and there's none of that on 72 Seasons. The fanboy in me is still enjoying the album but if I'm being critical, it's very mid for Metallica. I know they can do better. Death Magnetic is proof (holy shit that was 15 years ago!!!)
Spot on.
overall i like 72 Seasons but it just sounds like a 77 minute song instead of an album

[Failure]

So I’ve been getting into 72 Seasons a bit over the past few days. Overall, it’s about as good as you can expect a Metallica record to be in the year 2023 (James is turning 60 after all!). There are enough big hooks, cool riffs, killer solos, and transitions to keep things interesting. Highlights for me include the title track into Shadows Follow, which is a fresh/exciting way to start the record (shiny new drum production, more prominent bass, etc.) As someone previously said, Inamorata continues their recent trend of finishing strong. There aren’t any “bad” songs, like there were on Hardwired. But I do have to say that the record tends to drag in the same gear throughout. Dare I suggest that they should have tried slowing things down with a ballad or two somewhere in the middle. That would have made thrashier songs like Chasing Light land with a little more punch. But instead, things start to bleed interchangeably around the 35 minute mark.

Ever since Death Magnetic, the band has been sticking to a pretty common/safe formula….which they are admittedly great at. Nobody expects Ride The Lightning quality anymore (and nobody wants Load-era variety either). But I feel like they need to change things up a bit on the next one. Or get a better editor.

[Toadflax]

I bought two 2-day floor passes on resale for the LA shows. That... that was money.

[bobbie solo]

Toadflax, would you kill me if I said a GA 2 day Metlife Stadium ticket fell into my lap today with no effort on my part, and I am only using to go to tonight's show in NJ?

Can't wait for James' (who turned 60 yesterday!) absolutely dreadful stage banter. ARE YOOUUUUUU ALLIIIIIIIIIIIIVEEE????

[Fadeout54321]

Heading down to NJ myself at the moment. Looking forward to tonight...should be pretty awesome!

[chuckrh]

I bought two 2-day floor passes on resale for the LA shows. That... that was money.

I couldn't do it for Seattle. When tickets went on sale it was almost 2 years before the show. I may swoop in closer to the show. I've seen Metallica so many times it's almost like a ritual. Best show I saw was the And Justice for All tour. It was filmed & released in the box set.

[Toadflax]

@Toadflax (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=669), would you kill me if I said a GA 2 day Metlife Stadium ticket fell into my lap today with no effort on my part, and I am only using to go to tonight's show in NJ?

Can't wait for James' (who turned 60 yesterday!) absolutely dreadful stage banter. ARE YOOUUUUUU ALLIIIIIIIIIIIIVEEE????

Not at all!


Heading down to NJ myself at the moment. Looking forward to tonight...should be pretty awesome!

Hope you both have a blast!

[Toadflax]

I couldn't do it for Seattle. When tickets went on sale it was almost 2 years before the show. I may swoop in closer to the show. I've seen Metallica so many times it's almost like a ritual. Best show I saw was the And Justice for All tour. It was filmed & released in the box set.

Awesome. The only time I've seen them was at Woodstock '99. It was epic but also a very long time ago. I caught Jason's bass pick but have subsequently lost it. :(

The hype around 72 Seasons got me listening to them a lot again, so I treated myself to 2-day floor tickets. And considering my partner and I were planning on spending about $3,000 each on Power Trip (when Ozzy was still on the lineup), just having to pay for the Metallica shows feels like a bargain!

[bobbie solo]

was BSing with friends during Mammoth VH. They sounded good though. You won't get much better for what's left of accessible radio oriented rock in 2023.

Pantera* was pretty awesome. Sounded good. Lotta fun. And Phil didn't walk out in a white robe, so that was a plus. Still don't like them touring on that actual name, but was really cool hearing those songs presented on a big stage. Phil was barefoot. Voice was as good as you can expect at this point. He can handle the aggressive vocals just fine, and obviously isn't getting even remotely near any actual melodic singing. Rex still looks sickly. Zakk's stage persona/look is absurd and cartoonish. He thinks he looks tough. Charlie is a god that I have zero notes for.

Metallica was rough. Sloppy all around, and a pretty weak setlist. Man those new record songs just drag on & on & on in a live setting. Wish we had gotten Lux Eterna instead of one of three we got. Kirk fucked up Nothing Else Matters & had to start over. Lars was Lars. You all know what that means. James was fine to good overall, but man he looks every second of the 60 years old he just turned. I was left wanting more from the big stage show too. I expected alot more pyro, fancy lighting, props...whatever...for a football stadium show too. That could have made up for the weak setlist a bit. Oh well. Still glad I went. A bunch of the classics still really popped off overall.




Creeping Death (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?songid=5bd6fb14)
Harvester of Sorrow (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?songid=23d6c0c7)
Holier Than Thou (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?songid=2bd6384a)
King Nothing (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?songid=3d619cf)
72 Seasons (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?songid=5beed764)
If Darkness Had a Son (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?songid=3ee4d7f)
Fade to Black (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?songid=bd6d9da)
Shadows Follow (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?songid=3bef0050) (live debut)
Orion (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?songid=2bd6689e) (this was ROOOOOUUUUGH)
Nothing Else Matters (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?songid=73d67269)
Sad but True (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?songid=1bd64ddc)
The Day That Never Comes (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?songid=2bd7a4a2)
Battery (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?songid=3d6957b)
Fuel (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?songid=6bd6d2d6)
Seek & Destroy (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?songid=33d64895)
Master of Puppets (https://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/metallica-3bd680c8.html?songid=4bd607a2)

[GulDukat]

From 2003:

Kerrang: METALLICA's 'St. Anger' Is Band's Finest Effort To Date (https://blabbermouth.net/news/kerrang-metallica-s-st-anger-is-band-s-finest-effort-to-date)

:D

[allegate]

https://x.com/metallica/status/1697371084209959319?s=46&t=wqiWhUP8EahwixpxfXgf2g

https://Twitter.com/metallica/status/1697371084209959319?s=46&t=wqiWhUP8EahwixpxfXgf2g (https://x.com/metallica/status/1697371084209959319?s=46&t=wqiWhUP8EahwixpxfXgf2g)

not sure why it’s not showing, maybe it’s my browser.