PDA

View Full Version : Metallica



Pages : 1 [2]

thevoid99
09-26-2016, 06:34 PM
I like it. I was doing some air-drumming to that song.

seasonsinthesky
09-26-2016, 07:44 PM
That song is shockingly fucking good. What the hell?

Shadaloo
09-26-2016, 08:10 PM
It's 2016 and Metallica are putting out good songs

WHAT IS HAPPENING

Kodiak33
09-27-2016, 08:16 AM
I like this alot except for the production...it sounds too tinny and high (loudness wars). Is it just me?

opal
09-27-2016, 08:42 AM
Production is all right to me. Huge step away from the original Death Magnetic release (which you can buyin a remastered version from metallica.com, btw).

Without having done any analysis, it doesn't sound "brickwalled" to me.

simonn
09-27-2016, 02:42 PM
Yep, Moth Into Flame is a really good song. My most anticipated album for the rest of the year - in the absence of NIN...

armogi
09-28-2016, 01:26 AM
i just wish they would get rid of that fat tone, it would sound a zillion times better.

Jon
09-28-2016, 09:03 AM
I like this alot except for the production...it sounds too tinny and high (loudness wars). Is it just me?

The production is equivalent to what they've been doing for a few years with the reissues/remasters released through Blackened Recordings.

There is clipping, but there is also a noticeable waveform instead of solid rectangles.

http://i68.tinypic.com/2rz2rzl.png

Kodiak33
09-28-2016, 01:31 PM
The production is equivalent to what they've been doing for a few years with the reissues/remasters released through Blackened Recordings.

There is clipping, but there is also a noticeable waveform instead of solid rectangles.

http://i68.tinypic.com/2rz2rzl.png

Thanks! I'll have to listen with better headphones.

elevenism
09-28-2016, 02:19 PM
i'm pretty goddamn impressed with this new track myself.
Who would have guessed?
I do wish kirk would shred a bit more. I'd love to see metallica just go full bore into their old sound.
But this is a BIG step in that direction.

virushopper
09-28-2016, 06:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJOSvvdy27I

Thumbs up to the person who mixed this!

seasonsinthesky
09-28-2016, 06:36 PM
I feel like that's the first time in many years James has sung the pre-chorus of that song.

center27j
09-29-2016, 04:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJOSvvdy27I

Thumbs up to the person who mixed this!

agreed, james is a little deeper in the mix instead of burying everyone else (one of the many issues they've had with studio recordings the last several yrs). blends perfectly.

high hopes for new album/tour...they may have some new energy.

Krazy
09-29-2016, 06:12 PM
I swear there has never been another band even remotely close to Metallica for being scrutinized for their mix/recordings/production.

Holy fucking shit.

Space Suicide
09-29-2016, 06:48 PM
Good performance. Sounded tight.

Every time a see a video with Lars his hairline gets higher and higher.

onthewall2983
09-30-2016, 10:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBHSvxG-F_k

Failure
09-30-2016, 11:03 AM
This performance kicks ass! Very solid playing all around and it's refreshing to hear the bass well represented in the mix. Very excited for this album. I fully agree with one of the prior comments. Metallica gets held to unfair standards and it's almost impossible to have a subjective conversation with their "hardcore fans". I have a friend whose reaction to hearing this new song was: "now I have to go listen to Ride The Lightning just to cleanse my soul". Are you kidding me? Apparently every metal fan has the studio acumen of David Bottrill and the production chops of Terry Date.

Metallica's discography is incredible. If they had made Load/Re-Load into one album it would have been classic. And aside from St. Anger, everything else is killer. Sure Lars is no Dave Lombardo, but why so much hate? They are an American treasure.

bobbie solo
09-30-2016, 11:32 AM
They get scrutinized b/c they have some of the oddest production choices, especially compared to other bands at their level of popularity. The bass is almost always buried in the mix since Cliff died ( thats why that MoP Stern mix is so awesome...b/c hearing Rob play so easily is refreshing), and Lars' drums are WAY too prominent for such boring drumming. And then they do it live as well, and Lars fucking sucks live, so you hear his piss poor fills SO high in the mix. It's jarring. They'll have these sections of songs where there is just some basic hi-hats going on, and they sound like he's slapping the cymbal with the might of a 1000 suns.

center27j
09-30-2016, 02:58 PM
I swear there has never been another band even remotely close to Metallica for being scrutinized for their mix/recordings/production.

Holy fucking shit.

can you honestly say that st. anger and most notably death magnetic aren't abominations? for a band with such a massive budget how they could release something that sounds like it was mixed/mastered by 12 yr old with a macbook is what's frustrating. i find it physically painful playing DM at high volume.

Krazy
09-30-2016, 04:18 PM
can you honestly say that st. anger and most notably death magnetic aren't abominations? for a band with such a massive budget how they could release something that sounds like it was mixed/mastered by 12 yr old with a macbook is what's frustrating. i find it physically painful playing DM at high volume.

Im not disagreeing with the shitty mixes and production, it is what it is and found it kind of humorous that there was nearly a whole page on the subject with various performances.

Heres the thing about St. Anger and DM- they sucked because the songwriting sucked. A proper mastering and mixing wouldn't have made the songs good. Metallica could've recorded Puppets live in my garage and it still would've been flocked to by fans. Look at Justice- you can barely hear any bass guitar and Lars' kick drum was mixed like a hip hop record. Didn't matter all that much since they still cranked out great tunes throughout he album.

Im all for better recordings from them for the record, just find the infatuation a bit odd. Carry on.

Space Suicide
10-02-2016, 02:17 PM
Moth Into Flame Tonight Show appearance was a pretty good performance. Not the biggest fan but I might check out the newest album when it drops.

LaneSax
10-06-2016, 10:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmCaNgQDKWk

GulDukat
10-23-2016, 04:59 PM
RE: "Moth Into Flame." I feel very "meh" about it. There is nothing wrong with the song, but it just doesn't feel inspired to me. Sounds like Metallica by-the-numbers. I felt the same way about the first single too.

LaneSax
10-23-2016, 11:13 PM
RE: "Moth Into Flame." I feel very "meh" about it. There is nothing wrong with the song, but it just doesn't feel inspired to me. Sounds like Metallica by-the-numbers. I felt the same way about the first single too.
I get the same feeling too, especially for Moth into Flame. I still dig Hardwired

Shadaloo
10-23-2016, 11:37 PM
I remember that first week when everybody considered DM to be a good return to form. Wonder whatever happened to that. Mastering issues aside I do enjoy that album still.

Anyway, if you're not listening to the Guitar Hero 3 rip you're doing it wrong :p

LaneSax
10-24-2016, 01:38 AM
DM is a good album.
I'd be satisfied if Hardwired.... sounds close to it (better production of course)

mfte
10-31-2016, 05:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFAcOnhcpGA

LaneSax
10-31-2016, 09:17 PM
Anyone else found Atlas boring?
I hope this album eventually grows on me

bobbie solo
11-01-2016, 02:19 AM
Iron Maiden would like to have a word with the Metallica boys...

good song, not great. Like the vocal effort from James, and there are some really cool parts (part. the Maiden-esque long segments) that balance the boring parts. Lars once again is too loud and shows off his simplistic playing style. Keep hitting that snare repetitively Lars!

GulDukat
11-01-2016, 07:15 AM
I'd give all three songs a 3/5.

GulDukat
11-01-2016, 08:29 AM
Megadeth and Anthrax released albums this year that are far superior to Metallica's new material.

If Metallica were just starting out and these three songs were the first you heard of them, would you be interested in their new album? This album will be a big seller (by 2016 standards) because of the brand. I just can't get into the new stuff, it just sounds like Metallica by-the-numbers and forced. Look at the new band photos with the stupid sneers and the ridiculous album cover, they are just trying too hard. I'm not a Metallica hater either, I liked pretty much everything that they have ever released, sans St. Anger, but the new album, from what we have heard, to me, sounds very, very average.

Maximilian
11-01-2016, 12:13 PM
The songs are cool, but they're not showing much variety so far. All the songs are cut from the same cloth.

Krazy
11-01-2016, 07:47 PM
I'd personally rather listen to the newer "by-the-numbers" singles than just about any of the manure they produced post '80's material. Luke never get into DM- that album seemed forced. A lot of the songs seemed to have no direction, kind of like they wanted to make long songs just to make long songs.

GulDukat
11-01-2016, 08:09 PM
I'd personally rather listen to the newer "by-the-numbers" singles than just about any of the manure they produced post '80's material. Luke never get into DM- that album seemed forced. A lot of the songs seemed to have no direction, kind of like they wanted to make long songs just to make long songs. I would absolutely take LOAD/ReLoad over their newer material. Songs like "2x4" and "King Nothing" are pretty great and have held up well, imho.

Krazy
11-01-2016, 08:42 PM
I would absolutely take LOAD/ReLoad over their newer material. Songs like "2x4" and "King Nothing" are pretty great and have held up well, imho.

Ouch- IMHO those are some of the worst songs they've made, and Load/Reload is the bottom of the barrel of Metallica albums for me.

Just goes to show to each their own.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii223/GoatKrazy/Mobile%20Uploads/00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000110.jpg (http://s265.photobucket.com/user/GoatKrazy/media/Mobile%20Uploads/00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000110.jpg.html)

Shadaloo
11-01-2016, 10:01 PM
Said before - if you took the best stuff off Load and Reload, you'd have one of the best albums of their career, a flawless follow-up to the Black album. They were both just really uneven, particularly Reload.

I felt kind of bad for them for being shit on so badly for their shift in tone. If they hadn't started looking like Depeche Mode, I think a lot more people would have accepted their transition into rock and not been so quick to lambast them as sellouts. But then, y'know, Napster.

And that's why St. Anger sucks so bad IMO - it was a horrible, forced attempt to try and cater to their old fanbase and "Be a metal band" again.

bobbie solo
11-02-2016, 12:23 PM
Death Magnetic is a collection of random parts. Everything sounds forced, and it clearly was chopped up, and copy pasta'd heavily in Pro Tools. There'slenty of good metal parts in some of the cuts, but rarely do they work as actual, finished songs.

elevenism
11-04-2016, 11:19 AM
idk, i feel like these new singles are a long, LONG (i saw metallica for the first time 23 years ago,) LONNNNNG awaited return to form.

it's not blackened and battery but it's remarkably as close as we're gonna get 30 something years later

Sutekh
11-07-2016, 06:41 AM
New stuff is inoffensive but formulaic. It's a shame, cause had it come out when I was 17, I would have actually jizzed to death.

liquidcalm
11-07-2016, 04:58 PM
I liked the first two songs, but Atlas Rise doesn't really take off until about 3 minutes in. That bridge/solo section is ace. I know its easy to rip on the production, and I've not really had much problem, but the snare in Atlas is so loud it flattens the riffs and just make a lot of the track sound a bit like a demo, still can't wait for the album, not long now!

thevoid99
11-09-2016, 09:49 PM
I heard Lars might be moving back to Denmark due to the results of the election, is he really going to do it?

Space Suicide
11-09-2016, 10:10 PM
Is that the one that had the eight-minute songs that just cycled around on themselves repeatedly, no guitar solos at all, and included that hilarious band photo in the booklet where they're standing against the wall that had graffiti written all over it in Sharpie?

http://www.enter-night.com/bands/images/metallica/metallica-3.jpg

Shadaloo
11-09-2016, 10:46 PM
I never said they tried competently

Krazy
11-09-2016, 10:56 PM
I heard Lars might be moving back to Denmark due to the results of the election, is he really going to do it?

Hopefully, yes. Just like every other "celebrity" that's said something similar.

Good riddance to whover follows up on their promise. Don't let the door hit you In the ass on the way out. Grass is always greener on the other side.

GulDukat
11-11-2016, 07:54 PM
Exactly. And while you're at it, stay the fuck out. Don't come back to visit, to work, to do anything. All these whining fuckin' pussies on social media acting like the sky is suddenly falling. Get out and stay the fuck out then. Like having Hillary in office was going to be any better for things..
Yes, Hillary would have been much better. Here's an an analogy, Donald Trump will be the St. Anger of the presidency, FDR and Lincoln were the Master of Puppets, and Hillary could have maybe been ...And Justice for All.

Krazy
11-11-2016, 09:26 PM
and Hillary could have maybe been ...And Justice for All.

No.

Wether we're talking about the quality of the music, or the metaphor.

No.

EDIT: more like Load, lol.

Sutekh
11-11-2016, 10:20 PM
As in... big promises and hype, turns out to be essentially business as usual - but ultimately lacking in technical competence ;)

Shadaloo
11-12-2016, 12:58 AM
Don't do that to Load.

Hillary = Beyond Magnetic.

As in, utterly forgettable, unloved, just kind of fucking there, tacked on out of lack of anything better

ManBurning
11-12-2016, 01:06 AM
http://www.enter-night.com/bands/images/metallica/metallica-3.jpg

Wow, I didn't realize that Robert Trujillo has been a member for as long as he has! He's still got that "new guy" feel to me, but I guess he has been with them for 13 years...
Also, he seems to be the only one that doesn't age. He's the same age as the rest of the guys, but looks like he's been drinking from the fountain of youth in comparison to the other guys. They aged FAST!

James Hetfield does not look anything like this anymore! What happened?

armogi
11-12-2016, 12:33 PM
looks like its out in the wild now...

Krazy
11-12-2016, 02:01 PM
What happened?

Time. It gets the best of us. Hasn't been the kindest to Lars I'd say but at least he hasn't gone down plastic surgery street. *cough* AXL ROSE *cough*

WorzelG
11-12-2016, 03:25 PM
I heard Lars might be moving back to Denmark due to the results of the election, is he really going to do it?
Its not like Denmark is some perfect tolerant society these days, I don't think any country is immune to it anymore

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/06/world/europe/denmark-migrants-refugees-racism.html?_r=0

bobbie solo
11-12-2016, 05:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6kb5fvv6_A

that is all.

simonn
11-13-2016, 07:15 AM
The album is very good. The Black Album meets Reload with a bit of thrash thrown in.

GulDukat
11-13-2016, 07:42 AM
Telling you guys, new Anthrax ftw. If you want a good, old-school thrash album. New Megadeth too.

Now I'll shut up about them.

simonn
11-13-2016, 07:49 AM
Telling you guys, new Anthrax ftw. If you want a good, old-school thrash album. New Megadeth too.

Now I'll shut up about them.

Agreed on both - really good albums!

Conan The Barbarian
11-16-2016, 01:24 PM
Well, this is the record I feel should have followed the Black album.

That being said, I think its a good Metallica record, for today's Metallica. This is not a OMG ITS MASTER PART 2!!! It's just them letting everyone know they can still jam.

LaneSax
11-16-2016, 09:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpF8Wa2yQH0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlF4rhAbwyc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUVr2xnGIEo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZChXK2rdr9M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqIQvE5R1tU

LaneSax
11-17-2016, 12:18 AM
Anyone else getting ReLoad vibes from Dream No More?

seasonsinthesky
11-17-2016, 01:03 AM
Pretty bored with most of these, but also happy they didn't just copy DM, which is basically unapproachable to me still.

I was super impressed with "Moth Into Flame," and I got really good vibes from "Halo of Flies." I'm only going by the video thing they're doing (waiting for FLAC!), though. I'm seeing the hype on "Spit Out the Bone" and looking forward to it. Overall, certainly the best Metallica release I've experienced since becoming a fan through S&M, their last true masterstroke imo.

LaneSax
11-17-2016, 04:06 AM
I have grown to appreciate Moth into Flame after listening to HQ version
hope the rest grow too. Quite boring some of them

LaneSax
11-17-2016, 05:46 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mkq6GFLIsk

simonn
11-17-2016, 08:07 AM
Anyone else getting ReLoad vibes from Dream No More?

Very much so, a lot of the album recalls Reload I think. Enjoying it, a coupla filler in there - Now That we're Dead and Here Comes Revenge. Apart from that, a solid release I think. With a really good production for a change!

liquidcalm
11-17-2016, 04:15 PM
went for a run in the dark, thunder and rain whilst doing my first listen. Really enjoyed the lp, its a bit long, but I often think double albums are about having the choice between two sides rather than the whole thing. anywho, it's good, it does hark back to Load/Reload in places but the production is a bit.. samey. Then again, Metallica just don't make albums about production and studio tricks anymore. To some thats a bit of a cop out, but to me its functional, and sounds a lot better than Death Magnetic.

Dra508
11-17-2016, 04:43 PM
https://youtu.be/GXJifYl_byU

James pretty much sings this at same volume as electric. :D

Conan The Barbarian
11-17-2016, 07:16 PM
After a few more listens, im really enjoying this. Heard Lords Of Summer through the video and for the first time in a long time, I will be picking up a Metallica record tomorrow. 3 disk version is only 10 bucks at best buy.

LaneSax
11-18-2016, 01:29 AM
all the videos here

https://metallica.com/

I am on disc 3 now, so far it's an alright album.
I echo the comments that this would have been a good follow up to the Black Album.

Failure
11-18-2016, 11:58 AM
Happy Metallica Day! The first four songs; good god!! The record gets a little "Re-Load-y" in the middle there, but ends very strong. Solid playing throughout and great riffs. This band is an American Treasure. And if you're too pretentious to look past Lars' simple playing, then go listen to Anthrax' tuneless drivel.

RocketScience
11-18-2016, 12:42 PM
Solid album throughout with the exception of the stretch "Here Comes Revenge", "Am I Savege?" and "Murder One", good god I loath those songs. ManUNkind, despite the cringe-worthy title, is one fine song. Excellent chorus and glorious video, apparently 'tis the cast of Åkerlund's (director) upcoming Mayhem film performing the song in the music video.

DVYDRNS
11-18-2016, 02:54 PM
better than I expected.

GulDukat
11-18-2016, 10:53 PM
Very solid album, much better than anticipated, based on the singles. Listening to it as a whole, I'm quite happy with it. Kind of a Justice-Load hybrid. A solid 4/5.

Shadaloo
11-19-2016, 12:55 AM
I need a few more listens before I can deliver a reasoned verdict, but right now? Holy shit this is way better than it has any business being.

GulDukat
11-19-2016, 08:04 AM
Yeah. It does plod a bit in the third act, but it's otherwise a very good album.

elevenism
11-19-2016, 12:28 PM
I am very fucking impressed.
I sure didn't see THIS shit coming.

Microwave Jellyfish
11-19-2016, 01:52 PM
They still like Cthulhu.

I still like them.

GulDukat
11-19-2016, 02:19 PM
For ten bucks (at Best Buy) you get three discs and a cool booklet, which is a good value. While they could fit the album on one disc (just the album proper), I get why they split it into two discs. I does break it up. Better to listen to half the album, take a coffee break, finish it up later, rather than listen to nearly 80 minutes in one sitting. Besides, they still kept the cost down.

neorev
11-19-2016, 02:22 PM
My issue... what was the point of splitting up the album across two discs when they both fit on one? Do people really need two CDs to break up an album? You could just do that yourself. Hey I'll stop after track 6 and continue later. I dunno, seems to dumb to split it. I'm just glad they're not trying to overcharge fans for a double disc that could have been a single. So at least they have that.

GulDukat
11-19-2016, 02:36 PM
My issue... what was the point of splitting up the album across two discs when they both fit on one? Do people really need two CDs to break up an album? You could just do that yourself. Hey I'll stop after track 6 and continue later. I dunno, seems to dumb to split it. I'm just glad they're not trying to overcharge fans for a double disc that could have been a single. So at least they have that.I felt exactly the same way, but I get it now. By splitting it up, it forces the listener to see it as a double album, not necessarily to be digested in 80 minutes. You are right, you can do that yourself it it were a single disc, but with this format, it does it for you. Besides, most people would probably not stop after track six.This way, it makes the listener see it as a piece of work with two acts. As the consumer is still only charged the cost of a single disc, it doesn't bother me. If it were 30 dollars for the special edition (ten bucks a disc), I'd feel like it's a rip-off.

neorev
11-19-2016, 02:43 PM
I felt exactly the same way, but I get it now. By splitting it up, it forces the listener to see it as a double album, not necessarily to be digested in 80 minutes. You are right, you can do that yourself it it were a single disc, but with this format, it does it for you. Besides, most people would probably not stop after track six.This way, it makes the listener see it as a piece of work with two acts. As the consumer is still only charged the cost of a single disc, it doesn't bother me. If it were 30 dollars for the special edition (ten bucks a disc), I'd feel like it's a rip-off.

I would have just kept it as a single disc and do like you said, label it as Act I and Act II on the tracklisting. If you think listeners have no attention span, just wait til they have to take care of and drag around 2 CDs instead of one. Most people who are experiencing this album are probably doing so digitally, which goes against the 2CD separation. I understand why they thought of separating into two CDs, but I think it'll hurt them more with casual listeners than help. I love physical music, so it's not like I'm against it. Just imagining how today's casual listener will look at it.

GulDukat
11-19-2016, 02:46 PM
I'm just glad we have a good, new Metallica album in 2016.

mrselfdestruct94
11-19-2016, 08:34 PM
The new album is solid. All of the songs run dangerously close to blending together but there's just enough there to give each song its own identity, and holy fuck when Metallica hit their mark on some of these songs they prove once again they still got it. Favorites are Dream No More, Halo of Fire, and Spit out the Bone. Hardwired and Confusion are both great tracks to kick off both halves of the album, although the first six songs are much stronger than the latter six. ManUnkind, Here Comes Revenge, and Murder One are certainly the weakest tracks on the album, but the opener, closer, and Am I Savage? make up for that. Really enjoyed the music videos they released for these songs too. The first six are just performance videos but the other ones are very creative and unique for each entry. I'm looking forward to hearing these songs live.

LaneSax
11-20-2016, 04:00 AM
after about 4 listens my faves so far:
Hardwired
Now That We Are Dead
Dream No More
Confusion
ManUNKind
Spit Out the Bone

BenAkenobi
11-20-2016, 07:05 AM
... If it were 30 dollars for the special edition (ten bucks a disc), I'd feel like it's a rip-off.

Huh, want a laugh? checked one local shop. They want 33 USD for basic edition and 40 for the deluxe. Sorry guys, Napster awaits lol

ziltoid
11-20-2016, 11:31 PM
This sounds so much better!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_2661804485&feature= iv&src_vid=zCiNPgoGa6M&v=lU-UI3_6HcM

Space Suicide
11-20-2016, 11:56 PM
I listened to the album and it was ok. It kinda bled together after a while. No clue why they had to act like every song minus the title track had to be over 6+ minutes long.

LaneSax
11-21-2016, 07:42 AM
customary album ranking time?

1. Ride the Lightning
2. Kill 'Em All
3. Master of Puppets
4. Load
5. ...and Justice For All
6. Hardwired...to Self Destruct
7. Metallica
8. Death Magnetic
9. St. Anger
10. ReLoad

GulDukat
11-21-2016, 09:29 AM
1. RTL
2. Black Album
3. MOP
4. KEA
5.AJFA
6.LOAD
7. HTSD
8. DM
9. ReLoad
10. SA

Krazy
11-21-2016, 09:29 AM
Waiting for my copy of Hardwired from Amazon and have t listened to it yet, so...

1- MoP
2- RTL
3- Justice
4- Kill em All
5- ...

...the rest should be buried along with the Atari E.T. cartridges in New Mexico or wherever, never to be heard from again. I'd honestly rather listen to Nickelback than that shitty Load/Reload crap.

henryeatscereal
11-21-2016, 10:25 AM
1. Ride the Lightning
2. Master of Puppets
3. Kill 'Em All
4. ...And Justice For All
5. Metallica
6. Load
7. Reload
8. Hardwired...to Self Destruct
9. Death Magnetic
10. St. Anger

Archive_Reports
11-21-2016, 10:39 AM
1 - ...And Justice For All
2 - Master of Puppets
3 - Ride the Lightning
4 - Load
5 - Metallica
6 - Hardwired
7 - Death Magnetic
8 - Kill 'Em All
9 - Reload
10 - St. Anger

bobbie solo
11-21-2016, 11:22 AM
#1 Lulu

#2 through #10 - Does it really matter?

DVYDRNS
11-21-2016, 11:48 AM
how can people sit there and rank albums already when its been out less than a week... sheesh give it some time to settle into your psyche.

ziltoid
11-21-2016, 12:30 PM
This is an interesting listen. Very informative. Thought you guys might enjoy it.

http://www.revolvermag.com/artist-news/corey-taylors-interview-metallica-available-online/22741

Shadaloo
11-21-2016, 01:33 PM
1. Puppets
2. Justice
3. Lightning
4. Load
5. Black/Metallica
6. Death Magnetic (Mastered for ITunes version, natch)
7. Hardwired
8. ReLoad
9. Kill 'Em All
10. St. Anger

rampface
11-21-2016, 01:49 PM
01 Master of Puppets
02 ...And Justice For All
03 Ride the Lightning
04 Death Magnetic
05 Hardwired... To Self Destruct
06 The Black Album
07 Load
08 Kill 'Em All
09 Reload
100000000000000000000...... St. Anger

center27j
11-21-2016, 05:31 PM
it's a decent effort at best.....there is very little to differentiate one song from the next. the plague that started with load(s) has continued, they've manged to make themsleves sound like a high end garage band - there are no dynamics, no range. it's all just straight ahead simple rock, hardly what made them one of the best bands of all time.

GulDukat
11-21-2016, 06:42 PM
how can people sit there and rank albums already when its been out less than a week... sheesh give it some time to settle into your psyche.Because with just a few listens, it's not hard to see that it ranks below the first five, but is better than some more recent albums. It's a fine album, but the first five is their legacy, everything else is gravy.

cashpiles (closed)
11-23-2016, 10:42 AM
I find myself enjoying this album a lot. They have an undeniable sound...very visceral.. and it's hitting with me on this release. Maybe it's the 12 year old Metallica geek inside of me.

LaneSax
11-23-2016, 11:21 AM
Lords of Summer ain't too bad a track either

seasonsinthesky
11-23-2016, 07:43 PM
I find myself enjoying this album a lot. They have an undeniable sound...very visceral.. and it's hitting with me on this release. Maybe it's the 12 year old Metallica geek inside of me.

I think it's because they actually gave a fuck about writing great songs this time. Because that's what was left to prove after they "proved" they could still make metal post-Garage Inc. (St. Anger) and "proved" they could still thrash like the old days after that wasn't enough (Deaf Magnetic). The difference, of course, being that this time was actually a success.

Dr Channard
11-27-2016, 10:34 AM
Count me in with those who appreciated Load and Reload. Sure they were a departure from the sound Metallica helped to pioneer the previous decade, but I thought their transition from thrash to rock was done much better than what they got credit for.

Just listened to the new album and it’s pretty good.

LaneSax
11-30-2016, 01:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XZc1VmWjqo

buckaroo
11-30-2016, 09:26 AM
Count me in with those who appreciated Load and Reload. Sure they were a departure from the sound Metallica helped to pioneer the previous decade, but I thought their transition from thrash to rock was done much better than what they got credit for.

Just listened to the new album and it’s pretty good.

Load is a great album. I don't get all the hate. New album is good. Best thing they have done since Load. Would have been so much better as a single 6-7 track album in my opinion. I feel like a bunch of the songs sound the same and Lords of Summer is better than half of the actual album tracks. Still, I think Load is much better. Maybe it wasn't trashy or all that heavy, but the song writing was good and it didn't sound like I was listening to the same 10 songs in a row. It is also probably the only Metallica album where I don't think the solos sound super generic.

Edit: Lars has always been a pretty terrible drummer, but on this album it is really bad. I think this is probably my biggest problem. It is like 80 minutes of Lars pounding on his snare drum as if he just can't think of anything to play. I would probably like it much more had the drums not been so irritating. I can't imagine someone who has played for so long could really be that bad... it is probably more of just creative laziness than ability. Again, I don't find the drumming on Load all that bad and the actual drum sound and mix is decent...

LaneSax
12-06-2016, 10:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWEFR-Xv-es

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EppQfZP6xtA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLPC3t5hWvo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGoZ_pQY-14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAetyp0lSv0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFkXt_TB-QA&

LaneSax
12-06-2016, 08:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b29lnj4JS8s

Krazy
12-06-2016, 09:13 PM
Wish I could get into the new album, after hearing and liking the riffsoff the two first "singles" I ignored all YT vids/music until Amazon order arrived. Ain't feeling it at all- sounds like a mix of too long songs fused from the black album through the "Load" era. Meh. :/

The good news: F/S new barely used Metallica CD 3 discs for cheap. :P

bobbie solo
12-07-2016, 02:06 AM
I'll be sticking to the actual metal songs on the record (Hardwired, Atlas Rise, Moth To Flame, Spit Out The Bone & I guess Confusion) plus the bonus stuff on disc 3. The rest is fine I guess but not worthy of coming back to for me. Not when there's so much other, better music out there.

Would be cool if Metallica only sticks to the above songs for new album content when they tour next year. Play the four listed above, nothing from Death Magnetic/St. Anger/Load/Reload & 2 or 3 obscure Black album or older tracks, and then the rest would be the classics. Hopefully up there for like 2 & a half hours, with a good metal band on the come-up opening.

buckaroo
12-07-2016, 10:00 AM
I listed to the new album again yesterday and I was thinking it was maybe better than I had originally given it credit for... now, this isn't meant as a dig at Metallica at all, just a comment... I thought the new album was pretty decent when listening to it on it's own and then I turned it off to listen again to the new Testament and realized compared to other releases this year it's really not that great and I am surprised how bad it sounds in comparison (Testament, Megadeth, Death Angel, Dark Tranquillity, Gojira, Vader, Serpentine Dominion...). I just thought that when you compare it within the context of other "recent" Metallica releases it does sound pretty good, but then you think about other bands, some of which are their peers, and I it gives you a completely different opinion, for me anyway.

Jon
12-21-2016, 11:58 PM
Finally had a chance to listen to James Hetfield on JRE:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O6QPTawR14

onthewall2983
12-22-2016, 12:03 AM
Lars is on the latest episode of Chris Jericho's podcast, too.

onthewall2983
01-03-2017, 06:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ESctAmuwKo

onthewall2983
01-21-2017, 07:53 PM
Hetfield is narrating a documentary about porn addiction.

cashpiles (closed)
01-21-2017, 10:02 PM
Finally had a chance to listen to James Hetfield on JRE:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O6QPTawR14

The conversation was good up until Rogan started talking too much about bow hunting... then James got a bit disinterested and I could tell James was getting tired... and was probably hungry.. by the end he was just kind of being polite.

The bees section was great. They were both genuinely into the interview at that point. The family stuff was also engaging for both of them. I think Rogan should have cut the interview time in half.

LaneSax
01-24-2017, 10:29 PM
The new songs sounded awesome on the current tour

Managed to get a nice momento from the band

http://i.imgur.com/xt6i1nX.jpg

GulDukat
02-13-2017, 02:27 AM
Not really huge into Lady Ga Ga, but she sounded pretty impressive with Metallica. WTF was up with Hetfield's mic?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f7g4uflhFWk

simonn
02-13-2017, 02:28 AM
Not really huge into Lady Ga Ga, but she sounded pretty impressive with Metallica. WTF was up with Hetfield's mic?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f7g4uflhFWk

Hetfield looked none too impressed at the end!

GulDukat
02-13-2017, 02:38 AM
Hetfield looked none too impressed at the end!Probably pissed about his mic. And didn't the house band play Metallica when Megadeth was about to accept their award? ETA, yup, MOP. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7gpvXR3ifvo

simonn
02-13-2017, 08:13 AM
Probably pissed about his mic. And didn't the house band play Metallica when Megadeth was about to accept their award? ETA, yup, MOP. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7gpvXR3ifvo

Ha ha, Grammys baĺls it up again!!

telee.kom
02-13-2017, 08:39 AM
I'm not even sure how can you fuck up so much in one night lol

thevoid99
02-13-2017, 05:09 PM
Well, Metallica just got embarrassed at the Grammys and let's hope they never play there again. Oh, I found out they're playing at the new Atlanta Braves stadium in July which is just a few minutes from my house.

bobbie solo
02-14-2017, 02:01 AM
Unfortunate about Hetfield's mic. That's really unacceptable to let happen on such a big stage. Whoever did that needs to be held responsible.

That being said, at least it led to the cool visual of the two of them sharing a mic. And although it was a little thing, i thought it showed how Gaga is a step above her contemporaries in the pop world & more of a true artist, as she had the wherewithal share that mic. At first her vocals on that song were jarring to me, but I got into after a bit. The duet parts were especially good I thought, as it masked James' vocal deficiencies.

Band sounded good otherwise, but the ridiculous "YEAH RAWK OUT" dancers & Gaga's outfit/dance moves were unfortunate. Remove the dancers completely, and Gaga should have been a little more subdued. Less is more, part. if we're at all attempting to have metal taken seriously by the masses & move past some of the silly stereotypes associated with the genre.

ManBurning
02-14-2017, 04:12 AM
I'm not even sure how can you fuck up so much in one night lol

It's the grammy's. They are known for fucking with musicians. How are we not surprised?

On an unrelated note, there's a Vancouver stadium date for Metallica that was announced today, I'll be checking that one out. I've had 3 other opportunities to see Metallica in my life that I have passed up. One of them I even had tickets to and all, but then a trip/vacation got planned after the fact and it was during the week they were coming here (this was back in 2012 when they came here to film for some DVD). I had to sell the ticket since I was gonna be out of town. Had a couple of other missed opportunities before that, so I'm gonna make sure I hit this one up. Would be nice to see 'em at least once before they call it a day.

onthewall2983
02-14-2017, 04:34 AM
Where was it in the show? I assume not towards the very end otherwise you'd all be having 2014 flashbacks.

bobbie solo
02-14-2017, 12:20 PM
It's the grammy's. They are known for fucking with musicians. How are we not surprised?

On an unrelated note, there's a Vancouver stadium date for Metallica that was announced today, I'll be checking that one out. I've had 3 other opportunities to see Metallica in my life that I have passed up. One of them I even had tickets to and all, but then a trip/vacation got planned after the fact and it was during the week they were coming here (this was back in 2012 when they came here to film for some DVD). I had to sell the ticket since I was gonna be out of town. Had a couple of other missed opportunities before that, so I'm gonna make sure I hit this one up. Would be nice to see 'em at least once before they call it a day.

James' vioice & Lars' drumming get worse every year, so if you've never seen them, do it sooner rather than later. The ticket prices for this tour are hilarious though, so I'll be waiting for a free ticket if I go at all. $180 for GA for the NYC area shows. Hilarious. Stadium shows should be less, not more.

ManBurning
02-14-2017, 02:08 PM
The ticket prices for this tour are hilarious though, so I'll be waiting for a free ticket if I go at all. $180 for GA for the NYC area shows. Hilarious. Stadium shows should be less, not more.

Yeah, I know... same here. They're like $188+ fees for the show here. But, eh... since I've never seen 'em and had the chance to like 3 times, I consider if I went to all 3 of those shows, the accumulated cost between them would have well exceeded $200, so I will just pay the price, see them and then I can say I've seen Metallica and never have to see them again.

bobbie solo
02-15-2017, 12:42 PM
Volbeat & AVX are pretty big bands to have as openers (they will do arena tours of their own as co-headliners), so I guess they didn't give much of a discount (if any) on their guarantees, which contributes to the high prices.

ManBurning
02-15-2017, 01:48 PM
Does not help that my girlfriend is OBSESSED w/ A7X........... another reason we kinda have to go to this lol...

My show is actually getting Gojira instead of Volbeat. But I'm OK with that... I tried listening to Volbeat and wow...... wow..... is that ever awful stuff. It's like country-metal. I'm no fan of A7X myself, but I can tolerate them more than I could from what I heard of Volbeat.

Saw Gojira last summer open for Rammstein, they're not bad. Not good enough to the point where I would pay to see a headlining show of theirs, but as an opener, I can dig that.

Krazy
02-15-2017, 07:01 PM
My show is actually getting Gojira instead of Volbeat. But I'm OK with that... I tried listening to Volbeat and wow...... wow..... is that ever awful stuff. It's like country-metal. I'm no fan of A7X myself, but I can tolerate them more than I could from what I heard of Volbeat.


Fun fact: despite their rock-a-billy metal style, they are somehow from Denmark, lol.

I don't mind some of their stuff when it gets played on hard rock radio stations. Wouldn't go out of my way to listen to them either. They have some decent hooks to pull me in.

Space Suicide
02-15-2017, 07:02 PM
Fun fact: despite their rock-a-billy metal style, they are somehow from Denmark, lol.

I don't mind some of their stuff when it gets played on hard rock radio stations. Wouldn't go out of my way to listen to them either. They have some decent hooks to pull me in.

I don't like them collectively but their Outlaw Gentlemen and Shady Ladies album is fucking awesome.

bobbie solo
02-16-2017, 03:56 AM
Gojira is the best band on that entire tour, including Metallica. Saw them headline twice thus far and they are just absolutely crushing. And they support Sea Shepherd, with the organization having a table at almost all their shows. Rare to see such positive activism from a popular metal band.

Maximilian
02-16-2017, 12:17 PM
Yeah dudes, I already have a ticket for Maiden in Dallas and Metallica is 4 days from that date, so I figured "what the fuck", go to both of them!

Metallica is $155 floor plus whatever bullshit fees they have. PASS!!!!

ManBurning
02-16-2017, 01:44 PM
Yeah dudes, I already have a ticket for Maiden in Dallas and Metallica is 4 days from that date, so I figured "what the fuck", go to both of them!

Metallica is $155 floor plus whatever bullshit fees they have. PASS!!!!

$155 floor!! Wow, that's amazing! I just got hosed with 2 floor tickets at $208 each..... I have problems....

There is an ultimate VIP package reserved for only 12 people for $3299 a ticket...... lol....
You get to take a picture with Metallica and get a signed setlist.

bobbie solo
02-16-2017, 03:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic3_12G72-k

Like I said, best band (and tightest) on the tour. I wish Metallica would at least TRY to get somewhere near as crushing as this. And I LIKE the new record.

mrselfdestruct94
02-16-2017, 09:26 PM
I saw Gojira open for Lamb of God way back in 2007. They were the first up on a four band line up, were on stage for maybe twenty-five minutes, and fucking killed it. Never before have I seen an opener convert a crowd so quickly as when songs like Heaviest Matter and Backbone were played, and I've been a fan ever since. I wish they were accompanying Metallica on all the tour dates and not Avenged Sevenfold.

That said, I've always wanted to see Metallica live. They're the only 'Big Four' band I haven't seen yet and I'll probably check them out on one of these dates.

leo3375
02-17-2017, 12:06 AM
Closest the tour is getting to me is Chicago. This is the exact same lineup I saw last summer in Minneapolis. You are in for a treat if you go. I had a great time, even if it was so loud my bones were vibrating.

ryanmcfly
02-22-2017, 12:26 PM
So freaking pumped for the Dallas show, though I'm bummed that Volbeat isn't opening the Dallas show.

henryeatscereal
02-22-2017, 12:42 PM
Mexico show is a few days away, we'll be getting Iggy Pop as the opening act, i'm not ashamed to say i bought my tickets mostly for Iggy, but of course i'm always up for a Metallica show.

onthewall2983
02-23-2017, 08:18 AM
Some Kind of Monster is on Netflix. For those that haven't seen it, it's a good watch. Even for non-fans I'd recommend it as a good documentary. There are well-established cringe-worthy elements, but I think what gets lost in that is that they were brave enough to show that side of themselves to the world when it could have been shelved.

Conan The Barbarian
02-23-2017, 10:04 AM
Some Kind of Monster is on Netflix. For those that haven't seen it, it's a good watch. Even for non-fans I'd recommend it as a good documentary. There are well-established cringe-worthy elements, but I think what gets lost in that is that they were brave enough to show that side of themselves to the world when it could have been shelved.

I liked it because it was a vulnerable point of their lives. And funny how even Lars' dad wasn't into st.anger.

WorzelG
02-23-2017, 10:07 AM
Some Kind of Monster is on Netflix. For those that haven't seen it, it's a good watch. Even for non-fans I'd recommend it as a good documentary. There are well-established cringe-worthy elements, but I think what gets lost in that is that they were brave enough to show that side of themselves to the world when it could have been shelved.

Thanks for pointing this out, it's on the UK one too. I've been wanting to watch this for ages without feeling like I'm giving metallica any money!

onthewall2983
02-23-2017, 11:32 AM
The DVD or recent Blu-ray is worth getting. The deleted scenes paint a much deeper picture. I'm sure with all the footage that was shot (I think all told it was somewhere between one or two thousand hours, over the nearly three years of production), they probably could have filled up at least one more DVD of stuff.

WorzelG
02-23-2017, 11:47 AM
The DVD or recent Blu-ray is worth getting. The deleted scenes paint a much deeper picture. I'm sure with all the footage that was shot (I think all told it was somewhere between one or two thousand hours, over the nearly three years of production), they probably could have filled up at least one more DVD of stuff.

I'm particularly intrigued by the scenes with Dave Mustaine which my sister said were pretty embarrassing. I read his autobiography and I've always preferred Megadeth but I had no idea how bitter and sad he'd become over being booted out of the band

bobbie solo
02-24-2017, 03:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_F4XCjgHBo

best part of the movie

thevoid99
02-24-2017, 04:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_F4XCjgHBo

best part of the movie


http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/20160727/5322462/matt-hardy-delete-delete-delete-o.gif

onthewall2983
02-24-2017, 11:39 PM
I'm particularly intrigued by the scenes with Dave Mustaine which my sister said were pretty embarrassing. I read his autobiography and I've always preferred Megadeth but I had no idea how bitter and sad he'd become over being booted out of the band

Seeing it again I'm not sure what to think of him in it, except that he clearly did carry all that anger and sadness still. They had their reasons for kicking him out but they went about it terribly, as can be expected of a group of guys in their early 20's, eager for the prize as they all were.

leo3375
03-05-2017, 01:57 AM
What Gagatallica was supposed to sound like. (HINT: Really, really good!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdxyVnJMg64

henryeatscereal
03-07-2017, 10:22 AM
Metallica & Iggy playing "TV Eye", live in Mexico:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXXhC1MoLJ4

ryanmcfly
06-18-2017, 02:12 PM
Got so close for the show in Dallas. They were fucking amazing. Managed to get a guitar pick too.

NotoriousTIMP
07-30-2017, 04:10 PM
Went to the pop-up show in LA two days ago and here are a couple of photos....

http://i.imgur.com/ywRN9iY.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/beuJzgE.jpg

There was a small room that had the electric chair and a bunch of orb thingies from the 80s, it was all pretty cool

http://i.imgur.com/X7oQRen.jpg

and I walked away with this cool little pin

http://i.imgur.com/Jbm5sGf.jpg

and my sister and I will be at the show this upcoming Sunday in San Diego. We eneded up getting the crazy expensive tickets that come with a dinner or something like that and should be fun. :)

onthewall2983
11-13-2017, 02:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFAs3Y5Pyf4

Krazy
02-25-2018, 09:11 PM
Arena tour supposed to be announced tomorrow...

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/metallica-here-is-a-list-of-all-cities-and-venues-teasing-2018-north-american-tour/

...hopeful that I can get tickets for it to the new Bucks arena assuming this is true.

onthewall2983
04-09-2018, 09:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd9LfzWTaLQ

With a tiny bit of NIN-spotting

Jon
04-10-2018, 11:51 AM
I've been on a Metallica kick lately, gearing up for the deluxe remaster of Justice.

(Legendary) producer Steve Thompson talked about it on a podcast (https://www.buzzsprout.com/48505/648032). It hasn't been mentioned here yet, but as of February, there are no plans to remix the album. One of the reasons given is that the original source materials would be too difficult to sift through, because about 40,000 of those are Lars' drum takes.

Vertigo
04-10-2018, 01:55 PM
Surely it can't be too much effort just to boost the bass track.

Krazy
04-10-2018, 09:41 PM
With a tiny bit of NIN-spotting

Only got to watch the vid briefly this morning due to being busy, (and still am unfortunately). What was the NIN spotting?...

poro765
04-10-2018, 11:57 PM
Only got to watch the vid briefly this morning due to being busy, (and still am unfortunately). What was the NIN spotting?...
James obviously likes NIN. :)

thevoid99
04-11-2018, 12:26 AM
Let's not forget that Danny Lohner and Jeordie were both auditioning to play bass for Metallica during the filming of Some Kind of Monster as well as Pepper Keenan and Eric Avery. I'm sure I'm forgetting many others that auditioned.

henryeatscereal
04-11-2018, 10:10 AM
Let's not forget that Danny Lohner and Jeordie were both auditioning to play bass for Metallica during the filming of Some Kind of Monster as well as Pepper Keenan and Eric Avery. I'm sure I'm forgetting many others that auditioned.
Chris Wyse from The Cult and Scott Reeder from KYUSS also auditioned

center27j
04-11-2018, 10:47 AM
Surely it can't be too much effort just to boost the bass track.

AJFA is one of my fav albums, i actually think a bass boost would tarnish it. ive heard a few weak iterations on youtube and it actually takes away from the sound they captured. it was an experiment that worked for the better, much unlike the tin can snare on st.anger.

Jon
04-11-2018, 11:06 AM
Surely it can't be too much effort just to boost the bass track.

I would have to find the Steve Thompson video interview where he talks about it more in-depth, but the way the album was mixed, the frequency of the drums cancels out the bass frequencies the majority of the mix.

They probably will just do a "louder/boosted" version, but as already pointed out, it tends to sounds more harsh because the bass and drums are so closely linked.

Kulerage
04-11-2018, 07:37 PM
My main problem with AJFA is that the sound quality as a whole is horrible. It needs more than just a bass boost.

Conan The Barbarian
04-11-2018, 10:33 PM
My main problem with AJFA is that the sound quality as a whole is horrible. It needs more than just a bass boost.

I don’t know. The production kinds gives it its vibe. Same with the original As the palaces burn release from lamb of god. It sounds like shit, but thats its character.

To me, AJFA sounds exacty how it needed to sound, after everything they went through beforehand.

center27j
04-12-2018, 12:31 PM
I don’t know. The production kinds gives it its vibe. Same with the original As the palaces burn release from lamb of god. It sounds like shit, but thats its character.

To me, AJFA sounds exacty how it needed to sound, after everything they went through beforehand.

i agree, it certainly helps that its arguably their high point - had AJFA been mixed like Black it couldve been a disaster (and vice versa). it worked perfectly for the material.

Maximilian
04-12-2018, 02:24 PM
i agree, it certainly helps that its arguably their high point - had AJFA been mixed like Black it couldve been a disaster (and vice versa). it worked perfectly for the material.

Agreed. I love the way the riffs sound razor sharp and the drums are so punchy. I wouldn't want it any other way.

Pillfred
04-13-2018, 03:13 AM
Surely it can't be too much effort just to boost the bass track.

I was under the impression that it didn't have a bass track, more or less? Hence why they over dubbed everything like they did.

Also, didn't they already "remaster" this some years back?

Pillfred
04-13-2018, 03:14 AM
Surely it can't be too much effort just to boost the bass track.

I was under the impression that it didn't have a bass track, more or less? Hence why they over dubbed everything like they did.

Also, didn't they already "remaster" this some years back?

Also pt.2, this album is a lesson on straight riff-age.

Jon
04-14-2018, 08:34 AM
I was under the impression that it didn't have a bass track, more or less? Hence why they over dubbed everything like they did.

Also, didn't they already "remaster" this some years back?

It's there, it's purposefully turned way down so Lars could get the drum sound he wanted:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmFgeFh2nlw

As far as remastering, I understand the previous ones to be digitizations/CD masters rather than a full remastering. Remastering on the earlier releases is credited to George Marino.

poro765
05-03-2018, 10:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3vZDBARcmc
This made me laugh. Hard. Made my day!

Failure
05-31-2018, 04:57 PM
I just scored 2 tickets to their recently announced Philly show (October 25th). The Pre-Sale started at noon today. Sitting in Section 117, Row 6. $343 for the both of them. Ouch! These are GNR prices, but I have no will power. Will be good to see them in an arena again.

Dryalex12
05-31-2018, 08:09 PM
So....ive been getting into Metallica for the first time a few days ago.

I went through and listened to all their albums from KEA to Hardwired. here's my short opinion on them

KEA: Good riifs, though getting used to Hetfields early 80's is gonna take a while. Not a fan of the production but its still very solid. 7/10 for me

RTL: wow....what a fucking giant step up in quality, holy shit. Production is so much better, better riffs and songs (though James sounds like he's getting kicked in the crotch everytime he starts a lyric on the title track's verse), this album is awesome. 9/10

MoP: Its fucking Master of Puppets.....no but seriously, there isn't anything I can say that hasn't already be said. Sanitarium kicks ass, the songs kick ass, I made a horrible mistake trying to play Battery on rocksmith on my bass. Hell yes 10/10

AJFA:....is actually my favorite album. Lack of bass aside, I really think the longer songs give me more to enjoy, I like the progyness is has going on for it. Still killer riffs and lyrics, fucking wish they played Eye of the Beholder again/ 9/10

The Black Album: Such a step down imo, and its not the more hard rock/heavy metal approach, as you'll see next. It's certainly catchy....but...I dunno, I just don't really gel with this record much. Sad, But True kicks ass, Holier than Thou kicks ass....but im kinda meh on everything. 6/10

Load: I actually like Load a lot. There's a lot of filter sure, but I give credit, a lot of credit for Metallica for trying something different instead of being someone like Slayer where it never changes, not that it cant be done right. Ain't My Bitch, Bleeding Me, The Outlaw Torn, King Nothing and even songs i'm not much of a fan of musically like Mama Said, I can respect lyrically. Underatted. 8/10

Reload: More or less the same, though I like fewer songs on here. Good singles, Where The Wild Things Are and Fixxxer are great, but I like Load more. 7/10

St. Anger: ......................I'm indifferent. It has very good ideas, the snare doesn't really bother me, nor does the lack of solo's (Hardly any solo's on NIN songs) so that's not the issues. The issues are the godawful production, the stupid lyrics, James's raw voice, songs being WAY TO FUCKING LONG THEN THEY NEED TO...ugh...and it sucks because some of these riffs are so heavy and chunky....what a waste. I still like Some Kind of Monster, The Unnamed Feeling and even though it has a stupid ending, I like All Within My Hands. 5/10

Death Magnetic: Pretty solid return to form i'd say. It's not Master, but it's on the right track. The only track that i was pretty meh on was Suicide & Redemption....really did not need to be almost 10 minutes. Cyanide kicks ass, That Was Just Your Life kicks ass. All Nightmare Long and My Apocalypse kicks ass.....but
OH MY FUCKING GOD RICK GET YOU FUCKING COMPRESSED DICK OFF OF THIS PRODUCTION JESUS FU--
This album was fucking murder on my ears....my god...what a fucking disgrace. 7/10

Hardwired: TBH, I was pretty meh on this record. I liked Hardwired, I like the other singles, Spit Out The Bones kicks ass....but like St. Anger....it does not to be so fucking long. Why does it have to be so long? I can't even remember half of these songs...kinda a let down tbh. 6/10

and thats my story

Vertigo
06-01-2018, 02:13 AM
Hardwired is my favourite Metallica album since the 80s, but I usually listen to just one half at a time, not all the way through.

think i'm a fire engine
06-03-2018, 03:23 PM
and thats my story

That's a pretty cool account. I wish i could go back and relisten to them all again with fresh ears.

Conan The Barbarian
06-03-2018, 05:01 PM
Dryalex12

If you have apple music, the mastered for itunes version sounds so much better. And if you need a copy of the fan remaster using the guitar hero stems, let me know.

I couldn’t listen to that album due to its disastrous mastering. But those versions help a lot.

Space Suicide
06-03-2018, 05:06 PM
Ride the Lightning is their best album by far and will always be the only album I own a physical copy of and thoroughly enjoy every song on.

Dryalex12
06-03-2018, 09:44 PM
I wanted to see how bad it was myself. I knew it was bad....but i wasn't expecting this bad

sonic_discord
06-04-2018, 12:30 AM
I wanted to see how bad it was myself. I knew it was bad....but i wasn't expecting this bad

What are you referring to? The Mastering on Death Magnetic? Or...

Dryalex12
06-04-2018, 09:43 AM
Yup. Its a shame really since its a real return to from imo ruined by some of the worst production ive ever heard

LosingFocus
06-04-2018, 11:16 AM
Yup. Its a shame really since its a real return to from imo ruined by some of the worst production ive ever heard

It’s 10 years old this year, let’s hope for a “remastered” version 🤟

Jon
06-04-2018, 02:09 PM
Yup. Its a shame really since its a real return to from imo ruined by some of the worst production ive ever heard

Assuming you can crank the volume, the Guitar Hero mix is far superior. It also includes both versions of "Suicide & Redemption" (James lead / Kirk lead). These were weaved together to make the alternating lead "album" version.

Failure
06-04-2018, 03:17 PM
Production gaffes aside, the songs on Death Magnetic are fucking great. You've got the thrashy throwbacks (That Was Just Your Life, Judas Kiss, All Nightmare Long), the mid-tempo beauties (The Day That Never Comes, Unforgiven III), the token instrumental (Suicide And Redemption), and some genuine live bangers (Cyanide, Broken Beat). I actually think the level of quality of songs on DM is slightly higher than on Hardwired.

That being said, the mix is hot and harsh. And some of the decisions are downright baffling (see Lars' drum production on the verses of The Day That Never Comes).

sonic_discord
06-04-2018, 03:17 PM
Assuming you can crank the volume, the Guitar Hero mix is far superior. It also includes both versions of "Suicide & Redemption" (James lead / Kirk lead). These were weaved together to make the alternating lead "album" version.

Where might one acquire this mix? I have heard of it and looked for it (though, admittedly not TOO hard) for a few years now.

Jon
06-05-2018, 01:37 AM
Where might one acquire this mix? I have heard of it and looked for it (though, admittedly not TOO hard) for a few years now.

SoulSeek is still pretty reliable for random things, believe it or not.

I just googled "metallica death magnetic guitar hero lossless" and the very first result was (surprisingly) a working link. It's from 2015, but it's a repost of the same version I downloaded in 2008.

bobbie solo
06-05-2018, 12:21 PM
Soulseek? wow. Throwback! I LIVED on there for a few years.

ManOfAtom
06-06-2018, 03:04 PM
It’s 10 years old this year, let’s hope for a “remastered” version ��

It's had a remaster. THe iTunes version is new master. They sell it digitally on the MetStore too.

Jon
06-06-2018, 07:05 PM
It's had a remaster. THe iTunes version is new master. They sell it digitally on the MetStore too.

That's very specifically a "Mastered For iTunes" version.

ManOfAtom
06-07-2018, 02:53 AM
That's very specifically a "Mastered For iTunes" version.

It was remastered to meet that spec, yes. That only really means that it doesn’t clip, was provided high res to iTunes, and some check that it encoded to their lossy format cleanly. It is available as a high res lossless download from Met Store.

It’s a much more dynamic version.
It’s a new master from the mixes.

Jon
06-07-2018, 12:27 PM
It was remastered to meet that spec, yes. That only really means that it doesn’t clip, was provided high res to iTunes, and some check that it encoded to their lossy format cleanly. It is available as a high res lossless download from Met Store.

It’s a much more dynamic version.
It’s a new master from the mixes.

Sorry, my objection was with the iTunes part not the remaster part. I should have made that more clear, as your initial point (which I responded to) was that there was a remaster. I'll try again:

Isn't the iTunes version sourced from the latest 24-bit digitizations?

ManOfAtom
06-07-2018, 12:51 PM
Sorry, my objection was with the iTunes part not the remaster part. I should have made that more clear, as your initial point (which I responded to) was that there was a remaster. I'll try again:

Isn't the iTunes version sourced from the latest 24-bit digitizations?

Apologies, I'm still not totally sure what it is that you're driving at, but the impetus for this new master was the MFi program yes.

I assume it's a new master from high-res bounces of the original mixes, the MFi spec requires 24bit audio on submissions even though they aren't using that in the store.
You can get the 24/96 version here, it's the same as submitted to iTunes: https://www.metallica.com/store/9422/death-magnetic-digital-download?category=music/digital-downloads

The only concession to iTunes in the MFi program, per the spec, is:


All masters must have been auditioned as encoded by the current Apple AAC encoder either with the "Master for iTunes Droplet", "RoundTripAAC" plug-in, or the Sonnox "Pro-Codec V2" plug-in that includes Apple's "iTunes +" AAC CODEC. Use these tools to set an appropriate level so that the encode doesn't show clipping.

Regardless, what I mean to say is that if you find the original excessively crunchy (which if you're a human with ears you probably do!), then the Guitar Hero version isn't necessarily the best version of this record anymore. It's certainly worth finding this newer version. I couldn't say if other digital platforms also have it, or if it's exclusive to iTunes/Apple Music and the Met Store.
It doesn't make the album any better (I think it's mostly just fine), but it does sound better!

onthewall2983
09-06-2018, 01:24 PM
The ...And Justice For All deluxe editions have been announced today (https://www.udiscovermusic.com/news/metallica-30th-anniversary-justice/). I'm anxious to see what the one for the Black album would be, since it could have the 5.1 mix and possibly the Year and A Half ​doc as well as all the live stuff it would come with as well.

Vertigo
09-06-2018, 06:04 PM
the 5.1 mix

Wait, what?!

allegate
09-06-2018, 08:46 PM
https://www.discogs.com/Metallica-Metallica/release/655867

I used to have a copy but sold it because DVDA went under and the format was selling for $100+ a disc on ebay.

Krazy
09-06-2018, 08:57 PM
Are people still gonna bitch about the mix for the bass?

chuckrh
09-06-2018, 08:57 PM
these reissues have been pretty mondo. i'll probably spring for the 3 cd version of justice. i was at 1 of the seattle shows in the package. a m80 went off right next to me. lovely. the next tour got crazier. they put chairs on the floor which was a huge mistake. when the lights went out, the marauding hordes came over the battlements. i had seats close to the front. i ended up picking my gf up & carrying her out of the mayhem. she was petite & wasn't going to stand up to the beating.

Helpmeiaminhell
09-06-2018, 11:38 PM
I dream of the 12 CD/DVD deluxe box set reissue of The Downward Spiral and Fragile featuring 12 discs worth of demos and live shows...

poro765
09-07-2018, 12:53 AM
Are people still gonna bitch about the mix for the bass?
No bass, no purchase for me. Already have my original.

center27j
09-10-2018, 03:25 PM
No bass, no purchase for me. Already have my original.

i dont think it needs a bass boost to be better...it was a production "tweak" that worked. the guitars sound so powerful on this disc that changing anything would diminish its greatness. the snare on st anger is a diff story.

Failure
10-26-2018, 02:45 PM
Saw Metallica last night in Philly. Couple random thoughts:

-Jim Breuer was basically a paid hype-man. It would have been nice to hear some original stand-up material. Instead he came off like a sports bro from Long Island. Oh wait!
-Some of the Hardwired stuff needs to be retired. They have literally opened like 300 shows in a row with the tuneless title track. Novelty has worn off. Not a strong opener.
-Harvester Of Sorrow was huge! James' voice has aged very well and he still hits all the notes. I worry that he may "pipe" in some additional backing tracks, because certain parts just sound too perfect.
-Rob Trujillo is a solid player (and an energetic presence). But why they ever allow him to address the microphone is beyond me.
-Spit Out The Bone is ridiculously awesome.
-Kirk Hammett is the most underrated mainstream guitar player of the past 30 years.
-Really wish they'd play some more songs off Load. Bleeding Me at least, should be a staple.
-The band has definitely priced-out some of the hardcore fans. Upper Deck was completely filled 90 minutes before the band even went on. Floor was half-empty all night.
-Hoping that James hasn't fallen off the wagon. At one point, he was sort of rambling to the crowd for a while (and leaning against the mic stand). I was stoned as fuck, so perhaps I was over-imagining things.

bobbie solo
10-29-2018, 01:55 AM
Great review. James has always been one of the all-time worst at stage banter, so it wasn't necessarily alcohol. I won't pay to see Metallica again live until they switch up the set and/or retire some of the really overplayed hits.

onthewall2983
11-05-2018, 09:21 PM
BpwCPCEgCTF

Bp0Wy2eguI8

I'd be very interested to see them do more like this, with extra musicians.

bobbie solo
11-05-2018, 10:50 PM
Disposable Heroes sounded GOD AWFUL. So was Hardwired. The rest of what I heard (including Four Horsemen) was mostly solid. Fun show overall. Turn the Page in this setting is always great.

They basically need to leave the really fast numbers alone for an acoustic show. It'd be like Trent trying to do Gave Up or Wish acoustic. Just no.

fillow
11-06-2018, 04:34 AM
They basically need to leave the really fast numbers alone for an acoustic show. It'd be like Trent trying to do Gave Up or Wish acoustic. Just no.

https://youtu.be/79K_k74sG3s

chuckrh
11-06-2018, 05:35 AM
I go way back with Metallica. Last time (summer 2017 stadium tour) they sounded great. Excellent show. The new "Justice" package is pretty good. I was at the Seattle show that has some songs on the live desk. Probably the best time I saw them.

onthewall2983
11-06-2018, 11:10 AM
They basically need to leave the really fast numbers alone for an acoustic show. It'd be like Trent trying to do Gave Up or Wish acoustic. Just no.

Generally speaking sometimes fast can work for acoustic stuff, like this...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq1baqNThW4

But yeah, hard rock/metal doesn't translate as easily when it's so direct. Guns 'n Roses did "Welcome To The Jungle" at Neil Young's Bridge School Benefit, and aside from the questionable quality of the band anyway that is not a song you can unplug so easily.

poro765
11-07-2018, 07:57 PM
https://youtu.be/79K_k74sG3s
I want you to reimburse me for my wasted 2 minutes lol

chuckrh
11-09-2018, 03:51 PM
the new remaster of "and justice for all" (the album itself) is like a sledgehammer to the brain. in a real good way.

onthewall2983
11-16-2018, 11:51 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmhOIsM4jQE

Pillfred
11-19-2018, 12:59 AM
the new remaster of "and justice for all" (the album itself) is like a sledgehammer to the brain. in a real good way.

So this is a new remaster? I thought maybe they did one a few years back but that may have just been a re-issue. I mentioned this to a friend at work and he seemed to think so as well. In any event I'm glad to see that I did indeed read whatever it was right. Will have to let him know and check it out for myself.

*Just listened to Dyers Eve (https://youtu.be/qbwFMZTFrmU)...yep.

MrLobster
11-19-2018, 01:31 AM
So this is a new remaster? I thought maybe they did one a few years back but that may have just been a re-issue. I mentioned this to a friend at work and he seemed to think so as well. In any event I'm glad to see that I did indeed read whatever it was right. Will have to let him know and check it out for myself.

I'm curious too... maybe I put off buying the 45RPM a little while longer.

MrLobster
12-07-2018, 05:14 AM
I'm curious too... maybe I put off buying the 45RPM a little while longer.

Yes, it does sound better than the 2014 reissue. To my ears it sounds a bit punchier and more blended. Oh, fun fact... if you don't want to splurge on the boxed set version, the download code in the stand alone vinyl has the other 8 discs of material.

onthewall2983
03-19-2019, 09:43 AM
They'll team up with the San Francisco Symphony for the 20th anniversary of S&M this September. Suffering succotash! (https://www.nme.com/news/music/metallica-announce-20th-anniversary-sm-show-full-orchestra-2463679)

Jon
03-19-2019, 04:37 PM
So this is a new remaster? I thought maybe they did one a few years back but that may have just been a re-issue. I mentioned this to a friend at work and he seemed to think so as well. In any event I'm glad to see that I did indeed read whatever it was right.

The last "round" of remasters was done by George Marino in 1995 (released in 1996); this included the first four albums (Kill 'Em All, Ride The Lightning, Master Of Puppets, and ...And Justice For All). The (original) Blackened reissues are exact copies of the Elektra releases manufactured from 1995 and on. This is verifiable by using something like AccurateRip, CueTools, etc.

MrLobster
03-19-2019, 06:39 PM
The last "round" of remasters was done by George Marino in 1995 (released in 1996); this included the first four albums (Kill 'Em All, Ride The Lightning, Master Of Puppets, and ...And Justice For All). The (original) Blackened reissues are exact copies of the Elektra releases manufactured from 1995 and on. This is verifiable by using something like AccurateRip, CueTools, etc.

My credits for "...And Justice" are this:

Mastered by Bob Ludwig at Masterdisk, New York.
Remastered by Bob Ludwig at Lurssen Mastering, Los Angeles, CA.
Vinyl Laquers by Chris Bellman at Bernie Grundman Mastering, Hollywood, CA.
Reissues Executive Producer: Greg Fidelman

So I'm not sure how that all fits in with the the above.

Jon
03-19-2019, 08:15 PM
My credits for "...And Justice" are this:

Mastered by Bob Ludwig at Masterdisk, New York.
Remastered by Bob Ludwig at Lurssen Mastering, Los Angeles, CA.
Vinyl Laquers by Chris Bellman at Bernie Grundman Mastering, Hollywood, CA.
Reissues Executive Producer: Greg Fidelman

So I'm not sure how that all fits in with the the above.

You're looking at the credits for the latest remaster, yes? The newly remastered Blackened Recordings releases have an "R" in the catalog number. For instance, the original Blackened Recordings release for ...AJFA was BLCKND007-#. These are the ones that are exact copies of the Elektra discs. The new remaster for ...AJFA is BLCKND007R-#.

Here's the copy of ...AJFA most people are probably familiar with, and has been repressed countless times: https://www.discogs.com/Metallica-And-Justice-For-All/release/2362993

Mastered by Bob Ludwig
Remastered by George Marino at Sterling Sound, New York, NY

MrLobster
03-19-2019, 09:08 PM
You're looking at the credits for the latest remaster, yes?

Yes (BLCKND007R-1), that's why I'm curious, because they do differ from what's already been posted and I'm trying to figure out how that integrates.

armogi
03-22-2019, 10:08 PM
They'll team up with the San Francisco Symphony for the 20th anniversary of S&M this September. Suffering succotash! (https://www.nme.com/news/music/metallica-announce-20th-anniversary-sm-show-full-orchestra-2463679)

did anyone try for this one and got lucky?

i sure didn't... and it now looks like another organized scalping scam.

MrLobster
03-23-2019, 11:00 PM
So after going through my Metallica collection I've come to the conclusion that the Load / Reload / Garage Inc. / S&M era have the best production... and as a result, I tend to like those releases more.

And I was kinda surprised about just how poetic / visual Metallica's lyrics tend to be (I've never really read the lyrics before, but for re-encoding my collection I typed up what I had...).

Rubeninphoenix
03-24-2019, 03:31 AM
did anyone try for this one and got lucky?

i sure didn't... and it now looks like another organized scalping scam.Absolute fucking disaster on my end. I was on the page about an hour before sale went live, joined the queue as soon as one could, had 2k+ folks in front of me, and by the time I could get on the seating chart page, everything I clicked on would get the "These seats have already been purchased by another fan" message. I tried everything for a good 30 minutes until I realized all that was left were the damn TM Resale seats.

BrokenSpiral
03-24-2019, 01:54 PM
So after going through my Metallica collection I've come to the conclusion that the Load / Reload / Garage Inc. / S&M era have the best production... and as a result, I tent to like those releases more.

And I was kinda surprised about just how poetic / visual Metallica's lyrics tend to be (I've never really read the lyrics before, but for re-encoding my collection I typed up what I had...).

Load era is super fucking underrated.

Failure
03-25-2019, 03:15 PM
Was just listening to Bleeding Me and Outlaw Torn from the S&M DVD. To me, that's the best that Metallica ever was. I am not a metal fan and realize how ridiculous that might sound for fans of their 80's records. But I don't really give a fuck anymore. Seems like I've spent half of my life arguing with narrow-minded Metallica fans. I love most of their stuff (sans St. Anger) and it doesn't matter how "simple" Lars' drumming is or how "bad" the production on certain albums are. They are a treasure.

ryanmcfly
03-25-2019, 03:30 PM
Was just listening to Bleeding Me and Outlaw Torn from the S&M DVD. To me, that's the best that Metallica ever was. I am not a metal fan and realize how ridiculous that might sound for fans of their 80's records. But I don't really give a fuck anymore. Seems like I've spent half of my life arguing with narrow-minded Metallica fans. I love most of their stuff (sans St. Anger) and it doesn't matter how "simple" Lars' drumming is or how "bad" the production on certain albums are. They are a treasure.

Agreed. S&M is one of my favorite things in music ever. Just wish they would have done The Unforgiven for that... maybe with the new one.

sonic_discord
03-25-2019, 06:40 PM
If they don't do The Unforgiven III, it'll be a huge missed opportunity IMO. Of the material released since the original S&M, that song stands out as one that would lend itself extremely well to the S&M treatment. Other songs that I'd like to see featured (that haven't already been on the first S&M) include Fade to Black, Welcome Home (Sanitarium), The Unforgiven, My Friend of Misery, Low Man's Lyric, Mama Said, King Nothing, Turn the Page, The Unnamed Feeling, The Day That Never Comes, The Unforgiven II, Now That We're Dead, Dream No More, Halo on Fire.

Archive_Reports
03-25-2019, 07:01 PM
Mama Said and My Friend of Misery, yes please.

Archive_Reports
03-26-2019, 02:45 PM
Sorry for the double post, but: https://www.theprp.com/2019/03/26/news/metallica-announce-second-sm-20th-anniversary-show-aim-to-combat-ticket-scalpers-this-time-around/

armogi
03-26-2019, 09:41 PM
Props to them on the second show, That Is a cool second chance.

sinspots
07-19-2019, 11:14 PM
What the heck?
https://loudwire.com/metallica-rep-live-nation-scam/
https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8521538/live-nation-resale-market-secretly-recorded-phone-calls-concert-tickets

"Between 2016 and 2017, "about a dozen artists out of the thousands we work with asked us to do this," the company said in a statement to Billboard."

Would love to see that list.

Edit" Well, perhaps not news at all, except that it identifies a bank. Trent talked about this years ago: https://www.stereogum.com/58831/trent_reznor_blasts_ticketmaster_and_the_artists_w/news/

HWB
08-10-2019, 11:47 AM
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/580622216333623298/609772448501727242/unknown.png?width=719&height=455

Hetfield reasserted his stance on keeping the original mix intact, commenting, "And why would you change that? Why would you change history? Why would you all of a sudden put bass on it? There is bass on it, but why would you remix an album? You can remaster it, yes, but why would you remix something and make it different? It'd be like… I don't know. Not that I'm comparing us to the Mona Lisa, but it's, like, 'Uh, can we make her smile a little better?!' You know?! Why?"

https://loudwire.com/james-hetfield-defends-metallica-and-justice-for-all-mix/

HWB
08-10-2019, 11:48 AM
:(

allegate
08-11-2019, 12:06 AM
Why can't they just say "We used to hate Jason. We still do, but we used to, to."

The Doctor
08-12-2019, 11:31 AM
Why can't they just say "We used to hate Jason. We still do, but we used to, to."

Even as a long-time Metallica fan I've never understood any of this. Why would you hire someone you didn't like? None of the relationship stuff with Jason I understand at all. He's always seemed like the most friendly and passionate dude that's hard to dislike. But I haven't seen 'Some Kind of Monster' so not sure if that clarifies things at all. I dipped out of the Metallica world after S&M and didn't check back in until Death Magnetic.

MrLobster
08-12-2019, 12:13 PM
But I haven't seen 'Some Kind of Monster' so not sure if that clarifies things at all.

It kind of does (in the sense of showing the personalities in the band), but worth watching regardless... at least once.

onthewall2983
08-12-2019, 06:24 PM
Part of the band's grief for Cliff manifested itself into the hazing that ensued, before it turned into out and out jealousy for the Echobrain thing. It's a bit of a shame because Jason was more than just a great bass-player and energy on stage, he seemed to be more connected to the fans than the other guys. Even more sad is that he has not utilized his talents into something that could have established him in the marketplace.

Krazy
08-12-2019, 09:12 PM
Justice was a great album due to the song writing/guitars on it. It doesn’t sound very good but I’d take that over something like the black album. The kick drums sound cool with a subwoofer if you’re into that sound. Never bothered me personally that you can’t hear the Newsted much, and honestly didn’t really know it was a thing until maybe 10 years ago (Internet, and what not).

It has to be my ears that ive never heard much bass in many metal bands, outside of something obvious like Tool and Iron Maiden or Cliff’s Anesthesia. Even more particularly bands with two guitarists where mids and high are just generally more audible.

onthewall2983
09-27-2019, 09:06 PM
James has entered rehab once again (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/metallica-cancel-tour-james-hetfield-rehab-892158/?fbclid=IwAR3OqjlpJgjePvqqlLtJa6LrXs2TEuh4qXgph1xZ Bg4LQEkPx5lS6tNtft8)

armogi
09-28-2019, 12:15 AM
James has entered rehab once again (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/metallica-cancel-tour-james-hetfield-rehab-892158/?fbclid=IwAR3OqjlpJgjePvqqlLtJa6LrXs2TEuh4qXgph1xZ Bg4LQEkPx5lS6tNtft8)

Had no idea he relapsed, that sucks. Good luck big guy.

HWB
10-03-2019, 02:34 AM
James has entered rehab once again (https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/metallica-cancel-tour-james-hetfield-rehab-892158/?fbclid=IwAR3OqjlpJgjePvqqlLtJa6LrXs2TEuh4qXgph1xZ Bg4LQEkPx5lS6tNtft8)
Damn, best of luck to him, that really sucks.

onthewall2983
10-07-2019, 12:18 AM
metallicaxx.com

LaneSax
10-07-2019, 03:05 AM
metallicaxx.com
I am guessing it’s for S&M 2

sonic_discord
10-07-2019, 12:33 PM
I am guessing it’s for S&M 2

That's my guess as well. XX would be the roman numeral for 20 and it's been 20 years since the first S&M, so maybe it has something to do with celebrating the anniversary of the first one, as well? Someone on Facebook mentioned the possibility of it being a Black Album deluxe box set in the vein of the Kill 'Em All, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, and ...And Justice for All. The Black background and grey text seem to support this theory (not to mention it's the next album in line in the discography for the deluxe reissue treatment), but I don't know what "XX" has to do with the black album, as that was released in 1991 (28 years ago).

Helpmeiaminhell
10-07-2019, 01:07 PM
Remember when Alice In Chains cancelled their tour with Metallica because Layne was on drugs and James made a big joke at Laynes expense and talked shit all the time about what a bunch of losers AIC and specifically Layne were because they have to cancel tours because of drugs.....Oh the irony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiPzJZAxFRs

Jon
10-07-2019, 03:24 PM
That's my guess as well. XX would be the roman numeral for 20 and it's been 20 years since the first S&M, so maybe it has something to do with celebrating the anniversary of the first one, as well? Someone on Facebook mentioned the possibility of it being a Black Album deluxe box set in the vein of the Kill 'Em All, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, and ...And Justice for All. The Black background and grey text seem to support this theory (not to mention it's the next album in line in the discography for the deluxe reissue treatment), but I don't know what "XX" has to do with the black album, as that was released in 1991 (28 years ago).

I'm guessing we're going to at least get a home release for S&M 2: audio, video, etc. I'm holding my breath for some sort of deluxe package, but with the original show(s) and the new one(s). Some sort of all-encompassing release with the 4 shows would be excellent.

Cunning Stunts...

allegate
10-07-2019, 08:18 PM
Remember when Alice In Chains cancelled their tour with Metallica because Layne was on drugs and James made a big joke at Laynes expense and talked shit all the time about what a bunch of losers AIC and specifically Layne were because they have to cancel tours because of drugs.....Oh the irony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiPzJZAxFRs

but...weren't Metallica in the audience for their Unplugged? "Friends don't let friends cut their hair" and all that? what's the timeline on these two events?

bobbie solo
10-07-2019, 10:27 PM
That's my guess as well. XX would be the roman numeral for 20 and it's been 20 years since the first S&M, so maybe it has something to do with celebrating the anniversary of the first one, as well? Someone on Facebook mentioned the possibility of it being a Black Album deluxe box set in the vein of the Kill 'Em All, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, and ...And Justice for All. The Black background and grey text seem to support this theory (not to mention it's the next album in line in the discography for the deluxe reissue treatment), but I don't know what "XX" has to do with the black album, as that was released in 1991 (28 years ago).

https://www.theprp.com/2019/10/07/news/sonic-temple-louder-than-life-etc-festival-pages-hacked-metallica-headlining-rumors-heat-up/

onthewall2983
10-10-2019, 04:43 PM
It turned out to be festival dates. Either they are really optimistic about James' chances at getting himself in one piece by next year, or they are very bound to the contracts they signed before all this happened.

allegate
10-10-2019, 04:45 PM
Man, who would you want to see front the band if they have to perform without him?

ManBurning
10-10-2019, 04:58 PM
Glad I'm not attending any of the US festivals next year. I mean... 1 night of Metallica? Sure, I can dig it. Not the biggest 'tallica fan in the world, but I can sit through 1 headlining night. If I'm going to a multi day festival, I don't want to see the same Headliner twice. That's just me though. Awesome for mega Metallica fans though.

Archive_Reports
10-10-2019, 06:03 PM
Man, who would you want to see front the band if they have to perform without him?

1 - Corey Taylor
2 - Matt Tuck (Bullet for My Valentine)
3 - David Davidson (Revocation)

bryan_NIN65
10-10-2019, 10:10 PM
I am not a big Metallica fan at all but these fest would decently be the cheapest and most enjoyable way for me too finally see them. I can not sit in nosebleed due to heights and those were like the price of a festival ticket that lets.me see them twice. I am really considering trying out Louder than Life (I believe you can camp and that make the trip cheaper too). I've been to ROTR twice in the past and it was a blast but think I might be going to Vegas for Aerosmith in May, then I started thinking how cool it would be for one of the fest to get Aerosmith and NIN to go with Metallica and make a Woodstock 94 throwback,lol.

cahernandez
10-11-2019, 10:14 AM
Jason!