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theruiner
12-01-2011, 08:04 PM
Here's your place to post and talk about news items that don't necessarily warrant their own thread but are worth discussion.

Here's one. Kind of important. The senate just voted to keep a provision in the National Defense Authorization Act that would allow American citizens to be imprisoned, indefinitely, without due process, if they are suspected of being a terrorist. Yeah, that shit happened. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/29/senate-votes-to-let-military-detain-americans-indefinitely_n_1119473.html) This is insane.Here's a petition asking Obama to veto this. (http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/ndaa/?source=fb)

Admin edit: Actually, considering the gravity of the subject, the topic is worthy of its own thread.

icklekitty
12-01-2011, 08:16 PM
Good time to bring up the racist woman on a tram incident.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=i47HoiM0Au8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i47HoiM0Au8)





I used to take this tram every day to go to school. She got arrested (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15933829) following the video becoming so popular online.

Rossva
12-02-2011, 05:31 AM
Eish that woman's gonna regret that last bottle of vodka.

What a disgrace

october_midnight
12-02-2011, 03:19 PM
Due to a current class action settlement underway against Ticketmaster, if you bought tickets through TicketMaster from Oct. 21, 1999 - Oct. 19, 2011 you can join. Should it win, you will receive codes for discounts of $1.50 for each ticket you bought ($1.50 TicketMaster cash, that is...towards another ticket). If you had UPS deliver, that's another $5 each time. Not too great, like $25.50 max per person, and of course U.S. only so I'm fucked out of it. Still interesting though.

Pitchfork article. (http://www.pitchfork.com/news/44802-ticketmaster-forced-to-give-back-some-of-the-money-they-stole-from-you/)

Actual class action page to sign up. (http://www.ticketfeelitigation.com/)

sublimaze
12-02-2011, 06:43 PM
That video made me pissed at that bitch, but arrested​?

MAD
12-02-2011, 06:52 PM
Hungary outlaws homeless in move condemned by charities

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15982882 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-15982882) and digested by http://www.geekosystem.com/hungary-outlaws-being-homeless/

...what.. the..

Hungary, giving houses to homeless, you're doing it wrong.

theruiner
12-02-2011, 10:42 PM
That video made me pissed at that bitch, but arrested​?Yeah, I didn't quite get that, either. I guess you could say it was for harassment. I guess. But that's a pretty fine line.

She was, however, a massive cunt.

Rossva
12-03-2011, 04:14 AM
That video made me pissed at that bitch, but arrested​?

its a very good point - do those "hate preachers" you read about get arrested each time they spout their racist shite?

We all agree racism is absolutely wrong and abhorrent - but do all forms of racism get treated with equal contempt?

LEA
12-03-2011, 02:15 PM
Herman Cain just dropped out of the GOP race. I can't believe he had so much support. That whole field is pretty weak actually.

october_midnight
12-03-2011, 02:28 PM
There's a 'Herman Cain just pulled out' joke in there somewhere...

halloween
12-03-2011, 02:30 PM
Herman Cain just dropped out of the GOP race. I can't believe he had so much support. That whole field is pretty weak actually.

Thank fucking god...now we need to get the others to drop out too heh.

halloween
12-03-2011, 02:59 PM
Because we needed proof of something everyone already knew... (http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/02/tech/web/adults-online-no-reason/index.html?eref=rss_latest&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+%28RSS%3A+Mo st+Recent%29)

october_midnight
12-03-2011, 03:36 PM
Because we needed proof of something everyone already knew... (http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/02/tech/web/adults-online-no-reason/index.html?eref=rss_latest&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+%28RSS%3A+Mo st+Recent%29)

LOL. There's a reason I've configured my Facebook feed to be primarily my fiancee, a few friends and family, and the rest bands, movies, news, magazines, etc. etc. I'm on Twitter pretty much the entire day in one form or another, so I'm guilty too...but other than checking ETS, my other half a dozen regular pages, email, etc....I'm bored by a lot of the interwebz.

Timinator
12-04-2011, 04:12 AM
Yeah, I didn't quite get that, either. I guess you could say it was for harassment. I guess. But that's a pretty fine line.
She was, however, a massive cunt.It's not a fine line at all. The law in the UK (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1986/64/section/4A) is quite clear: "Expressions of hatred toward someone on account of that person's colour, race, nationality (including citizenship), ethnic or national origin, religion, or sexual orientation is forbidden. Any communication which is threatening, abusive or insulting, and is intended to harass, alarm, or distress someone is forbidden."

theruiner
12-04-2011, 05:04 AM
Well, then that law is pretty absurd.

eskimo
12-04-2011, 09:46 AM
Yeah, I didn't quite get that, either. I guess you could say it was for harassment. I guess. But that's a pretty fine line.

She was, however, a massive cunt.

Just arrested? I'm kinda hoping her kid gets taken away from her. Racist shit should not be allowed to breed.

Timinator
12-04-2011, 03:42 PM
Well, then that law is pretty absurd.Could you explain why?

theruiner
12-04-2011, 03:49 PM
Yes. I understand harassment is an issue, but saying something racist or homophobic shouldn't be against the law. It makes someone an asshole, sure. But it should not be illegal. That's ridiculous. Hurting someone's feelings shouldn't get you arrested.

Elke
12-05-2011, 11:38 AM
saying something racist or homophobic shouldn't be against the law

Unless it's actually leading to violence. Enticing violence through abuse of your right of free speech, I think, should be illegal.

I was watching the clip, and stumbled across this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIVdR0RAo74&feature=related

Some of the comments are incredible. I'm always baffled by how ignorant some people are.

Oh, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAND: WE HAVE A GOVERNMENT! (http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/02/world/europe/belgium-forms-government-with-elio-di-rupo-as-premier.html) Oh yeah...

icklekitty
12-05-2011, 11:44 AM
Ugh, what a dick.

1) It's not a subway. It's a TRAM. A TRAM IS NOT THE TUBE.
2) Actually, 70% of Londoners are WHITE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demography_of_London
3) We in England have freedom of speech. You live in America - seen the UC Davis pepper spray video?

themethatyouknow
12-05-2011, 11:52 AM
Yes. I understand harassment is an issue, but saying something racist or homophobic shouldn't be against the law. It makes someone an asshole, sure. But it should not be illegal. That's ridiculous. Hurting someone's feelings shouldn't get you arrested.

How would bullying fit in? I agree for the most part that people should be able to say hateful things and express hateful ideas And only have to suffer everyone knowing they are bigoted assholes, but at some point doesn't someone cross the line into directly harming another person? Call it bullying, harassment, stalking, terrorism, whatever, you're using your words and general behavior to harm people. To a point It should probably be let go. I mean people shouldn't jailed for a simple insult. But if you take it so far as to make a person legitimately afraid, or to make an entire train horrified? At some point words have to be counted. Ideas are fine, but abuse is abuse.

theruiner
12-05-2011, 12:05 PM
3) We in England have freedom of speech. You live in America - seen the UC Davis pepper spray video?I'm strictly going by the law that Tim posted. That doesn't sound like free speech to me. Now, maybe the spirit of the law isn't the same as the letter of the law in that situation, maybe it's enforced differently than the way it's read, I don't know. But, like I said, I was going by the way it was written, and was only commenting on the law itself.

And no one is arguing that we don't have our share of problems, nor was I arguing free speech in America versus England or anywhere else.



How would bullying fit in? I agree for the most part that people should be able to say hateful things and express hateful ideas And only have to suffer everyone knowing they are bigoted assholes, but at some point doesn't someone cross the line into directly harming another person? Call it bullying, harassment, stalking, terrorism, whatever, you're using your words and general behavior to harm people. To a point It should probably be let go. I mean people shouldn't jailed for a simple insult. But if you take it so far as to make a person legitimately afraid, or to make an entire train horrified? At some point words have to be counted. Ideas are fine, but abuse is abuse.You took my quote out of context. Which is understandable; maybe I didn't quite explain my argument as well as I could have. I'm not saying what she did wasn't harassment. In the section you quoted me from, I was specificially talking about the law that Tim brought up. You and I are pretty much in agreement, actually.

icklekitty
12-05-2011, 12:19 PM
I was replying to the guy in the YouTube video - all of those points were in reference to him.

theruiner
12-05-2011, 12:22 PM
Yeah, I realized that after I posted my reply. Sorry about that.

Though maybe it's good that I clairifed, anyway, just so no one misunderstood what I was saying. *shrug* Or maybe I just screwed up. ha ha.

DF118
12-05-2011, 01:56 PM
Yeah, I realized that after I posted my reply. Sorry about that.

Though maybe it's good that I clairifed, anyway, just so no one misunderstood what I was saying. *shrug* Or maybe I just screwed up. ha ha.

It's specific to hate crime.




A person who uses threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, abusive or insulting, is guilty of an offence if—
(a) he intends thereby to stir up racial hatred, or
(b) having regard to all the circumstances racial hatred is likely to be stirred up thereby.

...


The Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2006 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_and_Religious_Hatred_Act_2006) amended the Public Order Act 1986 by adding Part 3A. That Part says, "A person who uses threatening words or behaviour, or displays any written material which is threatening, is guilty of an offence if he intends thereby to stir up religious hatred." The Part protects freedom of expression by stating in Section 29J:


Nothing in this Part shall be read or given effect in a way which prohibits or restricts discussion, criticism or expressions of antipathy, dislike, ridicule, insult or abuse of particular religions or the beliefs or practices of their adherents, or of any other belief system or the beliefs or practices of its adherents, or proselytising or urging adherents of a different religion or belief system to cease practising their religion or belief system.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_the_United_Kingdom







In other words, the behavior must be threatening and the law cannot be enforced to limit speech otherwise. Note that threatening basically means "violence" in this context.

theruiner
12-05-2011, 02:04 PM
Ah, gotcha. Well, to be fair, that context wasn't in the original post. In the context of what we were talking about, it seemed to be specifically talking about speech in general, not hate crimes. Lesson learned, though- next time I'll check the link and read the entire statement in context.

Frozen Beach
12-05-2011, 07:08 PM
She deserved to be arrested, but not necessarily strictly for hate speech, but for the fact that children were around when such ignorance(and cursing) was being spoken.

DF118
12-05-2011, 07:43 PM
Scotland has been overrun by Pandas. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-16023328)

october_midnight
12-05-2011, 08:02 PM
FOX News declares 'The Muppets' as Communist. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/05/fox-news-the-muppets-are-communist_n_1129173.html?ref=mostpopular)

No, seriously...

theruiner
12-05-2011, 08:27 PM
This is the same "news" outlet that cries about a "war on Christmas" every year. I don't think they even believe what they're spewing. I feel the same way about Glenn Beck- there's no way he's that stupid. His listeners are, but he isn't. Stupid and/or ignorant people who watch Fox News, and only Fox News, will fall for this kind of dreck, and they know this sort of sensationalist crap pulls those people in by the millions. It's still pathetic, though.

october_midnight
12-05-2011, 09:14 PM
Details emerge of real life 'Breaking Bad' teacher. (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/breaking-bad-bryan-cranston-meth-irina-boston-269711?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

I've gotta admit, the age of the teacher kinda threw me off a bit...

NIN64
12-06-2011, 07:47 PM
FOX News declares 'The Muppets' as Communist. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/05/fox-news-the-muppets-are-communist_n_1129173.html?ref=mostpopular)

No, seriously...

WTF is this world coming to?

sheepdean
12-06-2011, 07:54 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/news/hm-caught-using-virtual-body-doubles-6273290.html
Promoting a realistic body image: you're doing it so, so wrong.

mostlymad
12-07-2011, 05:55 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/news/hm-caught-using-virtual-body-doubles-6273290.html
Promoting a realistic body image: you're doing it so, so wrong.

They had to use a real model's face, so they can't have saved on much money there. I don't get why we can't look at clothing on actual humans before we buy it. It seems to be almost false advertising, as the clothes never look as good on real people. But I guess that's marketing and why I never bothered to go into the business.

halloween
12-07-2011, 09:11 AM
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/news/hm-caught-using-virtual-body-doubles-6273290.html
Promoting a realistic body image: you're doing it so, so wrong.
"caught"? i went on that website and noticed that right off the bat, didn't realize they were trying to hide that fact hahaha.

halloween
12-07-2011, 09:15 AM
WTF is this world coming to?
http://frugaldad.com/2011/11/22/media-consolidation-infographic/

THEY ARE TRYING TO CONTROL US AND FEED US LIES.

Rossva
12-07-2011, 04:25 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2071099/Is-alien-spacecraft-parked-Mercury.html

Thats pretty fuckin cool huh?

heroicraptor
12-07-2011, 05:11 PM
It's massive amounts of sunlight messing with the sensors/lenses.

sheepdean
12-07-2011, 05:33 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2071099/Is-alien-spacecraft-parked-Mercury.html

Thats pretty fuckin cool huh?
I'm 90% sure the Daily Mail is a British, right wing version of the Onion, otherwise nothing else it does makes sense.

Rossva
12-07-2011, 06:13 PM
It's massive amounts of sunlight messing with the sensors/lenses.

yeah I know... but it's kinda fun just to pretend it might not be huh!

Dra508
12-07-2011, 06:21 PM
Drrrrrr (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/06/lauren-scruggs-model-walk_n_1131211.html)

Walks Into Plane Propeller, Survives

theruiner
12-08-2011, 12:51 PM
Shocker! Michelle Bachmann supports antiquated and sexist gender notions (http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/12/07/384618/bachmann-i-dont-let-my-daughters-ask-out-boys-they-have-to-wait-for-the-boys-to-call)

She went on to add: "When I was your age I never chased a boy or called a boy or sat in a parked car with a boy."

NIN64
12-08-2011, 01:45 PM
Another shooting at Virginia Tech (http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/08/reports-of-shots-fired-at-virginia-tech/?hpt=hp_t3)

botley
12-08-2011, 04:32 PM
Another shooting at Virginia Tech (http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/12/08/reports-of-shots-fired-at-virginia-tech/?hpt=hp_t3)

Gathered from a student on lockdown at a campus library posting online: "Supposedly there was an armed robbery in Radford (like 20-30 minutes away) and the suspect matched the description of our shooter, so when the police pulled him over here...that could be what this is all about."

Not in any way comparable to the Cho Seung-Hui rampage... it appears to be just a random dude fleeing from the cops. Still awful that the students are on lockdown again, but at least it's not one of their own students targeting other students.

NIN64
12-08-2011, 05:33 PM
Gathered from a student on lockdown at a campus library posting online: "Supposedly there was an armed robbery in Radford (like 20-30 minutes away) and the suspect matched the description of our shooter, so when the police pulled him over here...that could be what this is all about."

Not in any way comparable to the Cho Seung-Hui rampage... it appears to be just a random dude fleeing from the cops. Still awful that the students are on lockdown again, but at least it's not one of their own students targeting other students.

It sucks they have to go through something like that again. . .

halloween
12-08-2011, 07:00 PM
Fuck...that's terrible news =[

october_midnight
12-12-2011, 02:24 PM
TLC airs a new show 'All-American Muslim', U.S. company Lowe's shows its stupidity by pulling all commercials (can't be associated with the filthy foreigners after all...) Here are the top 25 comments left on Lowe's Facebook page. (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/dumbest-comments-on-lowes-facebook-page-about-al?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=buzzfeed)

Christ, I love your guys' country. Always there for the lulz.

waffel
12-12-2011, 03:38 PM
TLC airs a new show 'All-American Muslim', U.S. company Lowe's shows its stupidity by pulling all commercials (can't be associated with the filthy foreigners after all...) Here are the top 25 comments left on Lowe's Facebook page. (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/dumbest-comments-on-lowes-facebook-page-about-al?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=buzzfeed)

Christ, I love your guys' country. Always there for the lulz.

I think I'm going to start saying I'm Canadian, I'm close enough to the border.

allegro
12-12-2011, 03:40 PM
Ugh, we can always count on a bunch of Hillbilly Christians to make the entire country look completely ignorant.

I watch this show every week, so weird seeing Dearborn on national television.

(A weird aside about Dearborn: My mom grew up in Dearborn in the 50s when Orville Hubbard was mayor (http://apps.detnews.com/apps/history/index.php?id=139); Hubbard is mostly known as the guy who didn't allow black people to move into his city. Things sure have changed hahaha. Hubbard's rolling in his big fat grave.)

october_midnight
12-12-2011, 04:23 PM
Five awesome video parodies of Rick Perry's idiotic anti-gay video. (http://www.care2.com/causes/6-hilarious-responses-to-perrys-anti-gay-ad.html)

slave2thewage
12-13-2011, 08:02 PM
He can't hate gays, his name is too close to that of Katy Perry, our new Queen.

...Actually, maybe the last name isn't a coincidence at all. RICK IS KATY PERRY IN A SUIT, GUYZ.

Tea
12-14-2011, 05:32 PM
He can't hate gays, his name is too close to that of Katy Perry, our new Queen.

...Actually, maybe the last name isn't a coincidence at all. RICK IS KATY PERRY IN A SUIT, GUYZ.
Dude, are you kidding? Katy Perry has made so many homophobe comments over the years- she's a total bitch riding on a song that has nothing to do with her at all (yeah, she admitted to never kissing a girl).


In other news, Japan are dicks. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16064002)

Jinsai
12-16-2011, 12:37 AM
RIP Christopher Hitchens (http://abcnews.go.com/US/christopher-hitchens-controversial-author-television-personality-dies/story?id=13214700#.TurYsWARK-A)

theruiner
12-16-2011, 01:25 AM
RIP Christopher Hitchens (http://abcnews.go.com/US/christopher-hitchens-controversial-author-television-personality-dies/story?id=13214700#.TurYsWARK-A)Son of a bitch. RIP, dude.

slave2thewage
12-16-2011, 08:28 AM
Dude, are you kidding? Katy Perry has made so many homophobe comments over the years- she's a total bitch riding on a song that has nothing to do with her at all (yeah, she admitted to never kissing a girl).

Trust me, gay guys LOVE her. Plus, it could never be as offensive as "Born This Way" was.

halloween
12-18-2011, 06:55 PM
Organ Donation will be harder if you've had more than a couple sex partners in the past year. (http://vitals.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/05/9173566-too-promiscuous-to-donate-an-organ-maybe-cdc-says) This just doesn't seem to make that much sense.

PooPooMeowChow
12-18-2011, 10:27 PM
RIP Kim Jong Il, You were the lolz
http://images.smh.com.au/2010/12/24/2108314/kim-420x0.jpg

onthewall2983
12-18-2011, 10:32 PM
Don't you mean the rorz? I am an idiot.

theruiner
12-18-2011, 10:57 PM
A man of such humanity and decency deserves the proper tribute. (http://tinyurl.com/3pwx3rv)

themethatyouknow
12-18-2011, 11:56 PM
I didn't even realize Kim Jong was ill.

Uh, so is his son better or even more fucked up?

Space Suicide
12-19-2011, 01:24 PM
I didn't even realize Kim Jong was ill.

Uh, so is his son better or even more fucked up?

People say even more. I personally don't know, never really followed or read into North Korea history/leaders.

Fixer808
12-19-2011, 04:43 PM
I didn't even realize Kim Jong was ill.

Uh, so is his son better or even more fucked up?
Well, given that he was raised from birth to believe anything his father decided to tell him, I'm gonna go with "all of the fucked up".

Ryan
12-19-2011, 04:47 PM
Well, given that he was raised from birth to believe anything his father decided to tell him, I'm gonna go with "all of the fucked up".

I'm inclined to agree.

playwithfire
12-19-2011, 09:53 PM
Kim Jong was Il?

joplinpicasso
12-19-2011, 11:58 PM
It doesn't matter. The eternal president was a corpse long ago. All hail the necrocracy!

Jinsai
12-20-2011, 01:01 AM
So rong Kim Jong. The world will miss your beautiful singing voice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdug6yHJB40

Rossva
12-20-2011, 02:53 AM
Eish;

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2076245/TV-presenters-push-boundaries-taste-filmed-eating-EACH-OTHER.html

theruiner
12-20-2011, 03:31 AM
^^That's completely gross, but I see people in the comments section complaining it's immoral. How is it immoral? They're two consenting adults, they're not hurting anyone else, who cares? Their business, not mine. It's still disgusting, but I don't see anything immoral about it.

Elke
12-20-2011, 02:21 PM
Dennis Storm is they guy who did Try Before You Die and Spuiten & Slikken (a very demonstrative and hands-on show about sex and drugs), so really it's in keeping with his previous track record. And ultimately, I don't see why not. It's less horrible than eating live bugs or mealworms for some lame reality show.

allegro
12-20-2011, 10:53 PM
Equally fucked up, no change; Kim Jong Il was just more of the same horrible crap from previous rulers.

Aaron
12-21-2011, 12:25 AM
This has been a year of epic upheaval in the world of the modern supervillain. All my favorite evil dictators are dead and now I don't have anyone to eagerly scan the headlines for...except President Putin, I guess. He'll have to do.

halloween
12-21-2011, 12:49 AM
This has been a year of epic upheaval in the world of the modern supervillain. All my favorite evil dictators are dead and now I don't have anyone to eagerly scan the headlines for...except President Putin, I guess. He'll have to do.
I think his son is going to be equally as evil, so get your popcorn ready...

frankie teardrop
12-21-2011, 12:14 PM
and we've still got castro!

Dra508
12-21-2011, 02:20 PM
and we've still got castro!And that guy Amdadinnerjacket.

DF118
12-21-2011, 03:33 PM
And that guy Amdadinnerjacket.

Not to mention, Barack Obama.

Woo, satire.

halloween
12-22-2011, 05:16 PM
Ugh, everyone's a greedy bastard these days. (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-15/victoria-s-secret-revealed-in-child-picking-burkina-faso-cotton.html)

onthewall2983
12-26-2011, 05:00 PM
This (http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-joins-search-missing-indiana-girl-194746873.html) has been all over the news here locally since Friday, but it is now getting more national attention. Stuff like this makes me even more loathsome of my home state.

miss k bee
12-28-2011, 01:50 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2079237/Kim-Jong-Il-funeral-Millions-crying-North-Koreans-line-Pyongyangs-snow-bound-streets.html

They sky is crying uncontrollably and melodramatically...

Rossva
12-29-2011, 03:29 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2079237/Kim-Jong-Il-funeral-Millions-crying-North-Koreans-line-Pyongyangs-snow-bound-streets.html

They sky is crying uncontrollably and melodramatically...

That place IS year zero...

Frozen Beach
12-29-2011, 04:11 PM
Well, given that he was raised from birth to believe anything his father decided to tell him, I'm gonna go with "all of the fucked up".
Doesn't Kim Jung Il have another son who wants to have nothing to do with his father. Could of swore I heard about him... I remember hearing that he's a pretty famous gambler.

onthewall2983
12-30-2011, 12:39 AM
This (http://news.yahoo.com/fbi-joins-search-missing-indiana-girl-194746873.html) has been all over the news here locally since Friday, but it is now getting more national attention. Stuff like this makes me even more loathsome of my home state.

For anyone that followed it like I did, you obviously know it didn't end well. I live in that area and it's been hard to avoid it. I'm not even sure why I'm bringing it up here, other than possibly having a venue to talk about it where it doesn't end up a family discussion like it would on Facebook. By some accounts from a family member who's had to deal with the local press before, they've done a bang-up job of reporting it with the proper respect and clarity on all issues that the Nancy Grace's of the world can't grasp.

I had a life-changing experience this year, centered around a newborn child. Things like this just tear me apart a little. Some people are so fucking weak, all they can do to compensate is destroy the innocent. This is something I will never understand.

Jon
01-01-2012, 12:10 PM
[/URL][URL="http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Ban-on-Fake-Pot-Begins-in-Chicago-135575993.html"]I like how every year they make this seem more and more triumphant (http://I%20like%20how%20every%20year%20they%20make%20this %20seem%20more%20and%20more%20triumphant)

except this is the 3rd (4th?) year that they've "made spice illegal". And yes, you can go into your local headshop, today, January 1st, and purchase new legal spice. Can we please spend our resources on something... worth a crap?

marodi
01-03-2012, 08:26 PM
Woman have twins in different years (http://www.buffalonews.com/city/communities/buffalo/article692428.ece).

I just love stories like this.

thevoid99
01-03-2012, 10:47 PM
Woman have twins in different years (http://www.buffalonews.com/city/communities/buffalo/article692428.ece).

I just love stories like this.

I heard about that on the radio. That's awesome.

october_midnight
01-04-2012, 01:42 PM
A man sues Pepsi Co., stating that he found a dead mouse in his Mountain Dew can. Pepsi Co. disputes his claim, stating that "the Mountain Dew would've dissolved the dead mouse before he could have found it...it would have become a jelly-like substance." (http://news.yahoo.com/pepsi-says-mountain-dew-dissolve-mouse-carcasses-213911576.html)

Fixer808
01-04-2012, 05:24 PM
I thought Mountain Dew WAS a jelly-like substance...

theruiner
01-04-2012, 05:55 PM
Neeeevermind

mfte
01-05-2012, 08:41 AM
http://www.infowars.com/why-attacking-iran-will-not-work-in-2012/

Delusional
01-05-2012, 09:16 AM
infowars? ...Dr. Mind Bender?

halloween
01-05-2012, 09:33 PM
US threaten to blacklist Spain for not implementing SOPA style censorship law (https://torrentfreak.com/us-threatened-to-blacklist-spain-for-not-implementing-site-blocking-law-120105/). Ai..

Rossva
01-06-2012, 01:31 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/8996425/Diane-Abbott-forced-to-apologise-in-racism-row-after-claiming-White-people-love-playing-divide-and-rule.html

Hmmm... A case of double standards ???

theruiner
01-09-2012, 06:44 PM
Indiana senator wants parody of national anthem to be illegal. (http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/01/09/watch-out-weird-al-modifying-national-anthem-lyrics-could-get-you-fined/)

First of all, this falls directly under the guise of freedom of speech. So senator, you can just fuck off right there. Secondly, patriotism SHOULD be mocked, made fun of, picked apart and challenged. Fuck sacred cows.

halloween
01-11-2012, 07:26 PM
TSA Officers stole 40k from passengers checked bag, wtf! (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2085033/JFK-TSA-officers-Coumar-Persad-Davon-Web-stole-40k-cash-passengers-bag.html)

halloween
01-12-2012, 11:49 AM
North Korea- CRY HARDER OR YOU GET PUNISHED! (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/north_korea_reportedly_punishing_rhHyKb5jpyMVVsk1E VI2sO)

mfte
01-20-2012, 01:59 PM
Political Correctness at its best

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highschool-prep-rally/school-t-cougars-because-middle-aged-women-might-161402778.html

Jinsai
01-20-2012, 05:58 PM
Etta James has died.

PooPooMeowChow
01-23-2012, 12:12 PM
EU oil embargo on Iran, Iran vows to block Straight of Hormuz.
http://rt.com/news/iran-close-strait-hormuz-embargo-455/

I doubt Iran will actually block/ mine the straight as it's their last card and they probably don't want to play it right yet.
BUT the EU buys 20% of Irans oil, of that 20% the top 3 buyers are Greece, Italy & Spain. Almost like they do this shit on purpose? Keep on diggin the hole.

Pillfred
01-31-2012, 03:24 PM
Speaking of Iran it appears we have demoralized and killed enough Al Qaeda that Iran is the next boogie man.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/01/31/intel-chief-al-qaeda-core-hurting-but-iran-more-willing-to-launch-attacks-in-us/

Fixer808
01-31-2012, 05:23 PM
I'M looking forward to those $150 barrels of oil. :\

october_midnight
02-01-2012, 12:51 PM
North Korea- CRY HARDER OR YOU GET PUNISHED! (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/north_korea_reportedly_punishing_rhHyKb5jpyMVVsk1E VI2sO)

AND DON'T YOU DARE FUCKIN' CALL YOUR MOTHER TO CRY ABOUT IT. (http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/318692)

Alexandros
02-02-2012, 03:41 AM
74 people killed in a footbal (soccer) riot in Egypt. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/02/port-said-football-disaster-revolution?newsfeed=true)

halloween
02-02-2012, 08:25 PM
what the hell man
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/01/house-republicans-order-j_n_1246971.html?mrefid=

october_midnight
02-04-2012, 01:59 PM
Vermont inmates sneak image of a pig on to the state's license plates...nobody notices for 4 years. (http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20120202/NEWS02/120202039/Pigs-on-police-cars-Prank-by-Vermont-inmates-adorns-decals)

sublimaze
02-04-2012, 09:41 PM
Vermont inmates sneak image of a pig on to the state's license plates...nobody notices for 4 years. (http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/article/20120202/NEWS02/120202039/Pigs-on-police-cars-Prank-by-Vermont-inmates-adorns-decals)

That's fantastic. Good for them and creativity!

(Boo on them for being prisoners though)

october_midnight
02-07-2012, 01:02 PM
California's Proposition 8 has been ruled as unconstitutional. Hope for the intelligence of humanity after all???

millionmilesaway
02-07-2012, 08:42 PM
http://www.pressherald.com/news/Portland-smokers-to-get-fined-for-tossing-butts.html

finally someone realizes that cigarette butts are unsightly filthy trash

Frozen Beach
02-07-2012, 10:05 PM
Whenever I smoke, I NEVER throw the butt on the ground. I always smother it out and trash it. I don't get why so many smokers are too lazy to dispose of the butts properly.

Corvus T. Cosmonaut
02-08-2012, 03:01 AM
California's Proposition 8 has been ruled as unconstitutional. Hope for the intelligence of humanity after all???
Well, sort of. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit ruled 2-1 against Prop 8 on the narrow grounds that, first of all, marriage or an arrangement nearly functionally identical to marriage had for a time been legal for same-sex couples, and that this right cannot be removed by popular vote. Second, they ruled that the term 'marriage' is of primarily symbolic value and that the law has no 'rational basis' for prohibiting gays from that term when they've been given an arrangement like civil unions that affords most or all legal benefits available to 'marriages'. This has no real legal effects until the Supreme Court issues an opinion on the matter (it's pretty much a sure thing they'll grant cert), probably about a year from now. What the 9th Circuit's opinion *doesn't* address is the broader issue of the constitutionality of prohibiting same-sex marriage.

If the Supreme Court upholds this ruling, though, they could rule narrowly enough that it would apply only to California. However, as a number of legal commentators have been pointing out, the arguments made in the 9th Circuit majority opinion have some problems, and at this point one may very well be right to dislike this decision while still supporting the cause of same-sex marriage equality.

october_midnight
02-12-2012, 04:25 PM
Senator proposes 'Every Sperm is Sacred' amendment to an already shitty anti-choice bill. (http://www.themarysue.com/constance-johnson-masturbation-amendment/)

“Any action in which a man ejaculates or otherwise deposits semen anywhere but in a woman’s vagina shall be interpreted and construed as an action against an unborn child.”

LOL at 'otherwise deposits'.

Fixer808
02-12-2012, 07:30 PM
So the mail slot in my neighbour's door is out then?

littlemonkey613
02-15-2012, 05:06 AM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/fox-news-contributor-liz-trotta-spike-sex-assault-military-expect-article-1.1022097

"I think they have actually discovered there is a difference between men and women. And the sexual abuse report says that there has been, since 2006, a 64% increase in violent sexual assaults. Now, what did they expect? These people are in close contact..." YOU GUYS

icklekitty
02-15-2012, 05:26 AM
Senator proposes 'Every Sperm is Sacred' amendment to an already shitty anti-choice bill. (http://www.themarysue.com/constance-johnson-masturbation-amendment/)

“Any action in which a man ejaculates or otherwise deposits semen anywhere but in a woman’s vagina shall be interpreted and construed as an action against an unborn child.”

LOL at 'otherwise deposits'.

Are we to start making tissues, condoms, and bins out of dead women's vaginas?

halloween
02-18-2012, 01:57 PM
Accident causes oil spill in the Mississippi river (http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/17/us/louisiana-oil-spill/index.html?eref=rss_topstories&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_topstories+%28RSS%3 A+Top+Stories%29). So sad and frustrating.

theruiner
02-19-2012, 07:14 AM
WTF? Man survives two months without food in his snowed in car (http://news.yahoo.com/swedish-man-survives-months-snowed-car-194327236.html)

I didn't know you could live without food that long.

Fixer808
02-19-2012, 04:07 PM
Yup. You're gonna be pretty skinny and incredibly weak because your body is absorbing fat, then muscle, but as long as he had water from the snow, and was able to stay somewhat warm, he'd be able to make it. Depending on how deep the snow was, i.e. completely covering his car, it would insulate and hold in whatever modicum of heat he had.

Now the big thing is his mental state. Obviously he had the will to hold out for as long as he could instead of just saying "Well, I had a good run!" and going to sleep forever.

halloween
02-19-2012, 05:15 PM
Target are fuckers when it comes to advertising, jesus. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/16/how-target-figured-out-a-teen-girl-was-pregnant-before-her-father-did/?partner=forbespicks&google_editors_picks=true)

allegro
02-19-2012, 05:36 PM
Target are fuckers when it comes to advertising, jesus. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/16/how-target-figured-out-a-teen-girl-was-pregnant-before-her-father-did/?partner=forbespicks&google_editors_picks=true)
using data you've compiled about customers isn't new; it's been done forever. Hell, I was doing it in advertising (direct mail, highly-targeted mailing list) at a computer company in 1984. Sending relevant coupons or discounts to customers is more useful than random junk mail to anyone. It's just because this happened to involve a teen pregnancy that people think some weird moral boundary has been crossed.

Fixer808
02-19-2012, 06:39 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/02/18/iranian-warships-suez-canal-cold-war-_n_1286318.html?ir=Canada&ref=canada&icid=maing-grid7|canada-toshiba|dl1|sec1_lnk1%26pLid%3D136896
Iranian destroyer Shahid Qandi and its supply ship, the Kharg enter Suez canal so that I can make this joke.

Artist's rendering of the Kharg:
http://images.wikia.com/memoryalpha/en/images/6/60/Klingon_Bird-of-Prey.jpg

halloween
02-20-2012, 10:17 AM
using data you've compiled about customers isn't new; it's been done forever. Hell, I was doing it in advertising (direct mail, highly-targeted mailing list) at a computer company in 1984. Sending relevant coupons or discounts to customers is more useful than random junk mail to anyone. It's just because this happened to involve a teen pregnancy that people think some weird moral boundary has been crossed.

yeah i'm sure this isn't new, but it's news to me. no one goes around telling me these things heh, so i know i shouldn't be surprised but it's weird reading about it so explicitly.

brightshadow
02-20-2012, 09:48 PM
http://azstarnet.com/news/blogs/pueblo-politics/babeu-s-ex-lover-s-visa-does-not-permit-work/article_b2020ca2-5c17-11e1-9d3e-0019bb2963f4.html

So this guy is the sheriff of Pinal county in my beloved home state of Arizona. He is also one of the biggest supporters of the xenophobic SB1070 immigration bill. Turns out he's been employing and having a relationship with a Mexican man in the country on a tourist visa which does not allow him to work or live here, and he allegedly threatened the man with deportation if he told anyone about their relationship. Hypocrite much?

allegro
02-20-2012, 11:00 PM
yeah i'm sure this isn't new, but it's news to me. no one goes around telling me these things heh, so i know i shouldn't be surprised but it's weird reading about it so explicitly.
That's probably good, though; this is a Teachable Moment, heh heh. :-)

If you (or anybody else, here) isn't aware of how nearly everything you do online or related to commerce is tracked, now is better than never to find out. You're being tracked, all the time, solely for money and profit. Facebook? It's not there for your enjoyment; it's a profit and data-mining venture. Every time you use a credit or debit card, or a grocery store discount card, your behavior was tracked. Since the data is being used solely for marketing and capitalism, it isn't considered nefarious. This teen getting the pregnancy coupons from Target was in Target's "system," somehow; her spending at Target was tracked, so she must have a Target Red Card. I have a Target Red Card and that's the only way I get coupons.

Forbes' "Data mining into your womb" - Ugh, Shame on you, Forbes. So a guy buys more toilet paper than usual, a tube of Preparation H and a new chair cushion, so Target's computer determines customer probably has hemmerhoids and gives him coupon for Tucks. So then Target is "Data Mining Up Somebody's Ass."

Iran_Ed
02-21-2012, 07:25 PM
Communism Cookies (http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/21/10469492-lawmaker-radical-girl-scouts-out-to-destroy-american-family-values)

Earlier this year when someone told me that they felt like the United States government was waging a war against
women I thought it was a overreaction. I think I'd rather have young girls "sexualized" through girls scouts than by
television. It seems females are not allowed to have self-esteem, I started my day with an NPR report on Middle Eastern
acid attacks on women. I had heard of those before but didn't realize they were so prevalent. I'm just disgusted.

littlemonkey613
02-22-2012, 09:02 PM
Earlier this year when someone told me that they felt like the United States government was waging a war against
women I thought it was a overreaction.

I've definitely felt like this all month. When the frontrunners for the Presidential election are saying what they are saying, it just feels unprecedented and its all rather depressing.

halloween
02-22-2012, 09:11 PM
That's probably good, though; this is a Teachable Moment, heh heh. :-)

If you (or anybody else, here) isn't aware of how nearly everything you do online or related to commerce is tracked, now is better than never to find out. You're being tracked, all the time, solely for money and profit. Facebook? It's not there for your enjoyment; it's a profit and data-mining venture. Every time you use a credit or debit card, or a grocery store discount card, your behavior was tracked. Since the data is being used solely for marketing and capitalism, it isn't considered nefarious. This teen getting the pregnancy coupons from Target was in Target's "system," somehow; her spending at Target was tracked, so she must have a Target Red Card. I have a Target Red Card and that's the only way I get coupons.

Forbes' "Data mining into your womb" - Ugh, Shame on you, Forbes. So a guy buys more toilet paper than usual, a tube of Preparation H and a new chair cushion, so Target's computer determines customer probably has hemmerhoids and gives him coupon for Tucks. So then Target is "Data Mining Up Somebody's Ass."
Yeah, it's one of the reasons i quit facebook a while ago, and i'm actually in the process of phasing out my gmail account even... everything that becomes so "massive" in a sense, becomes questionable. Also, i just learned today how to delete my google search history, haha.


In reply to the war on women conversation...Coincidentally, today out of the sheer pain in my shoulders, i decided to give up bras forever (and now buy shirts that allow me to do it, and also i'm pretty flat chested to begin with.) and then i realized i was more of a feminist than i realized. (...this was on my way to a lecture on women in photography and of course the feminist ones. mmm.)

allegro
02-23-2012, 12:39 AM
aw, yeah awesome, bras are torture devices! (they do fight gravity, though)

how do you delete Google search history? share with the class! :-)

halloween
02-23-2012, 12:53 AM
Quite simple really- https://www.google.com/history/
It'll prompt you to log in of course. Then after you delete it apparently "pauses" the saving of further search entries. I wonder if it unpauses at some point...either way, i'm going to try to remember to be logged out of my google account most of the time.

allegro
02-23-2012, 10:54 AM
Loyola Chicago (where I got my paralegal Grad Cert) sent us an email this morning re a symposium they're hosting about IT security, and it included this link:

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/02/how-remove-your-google-search-history-googles-new-privacy-policy-takes-effect

mfte
02-25-2012, 02:39 PM
http://www.ledger-enquirer.com/2012/02/24/1945143/crime-of-desperation-former-police.html

Ex Cop robs bank in order to get caught and receive federal prison health benefits

october_midnight
02-28-2012, 06:23 PM
Interpol arrests 25 suspected Anonymous hackers, Anonymous responds by shutting down Interpol website. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2012/02/28/anonymous-hits-interpol-site-after-25-arrested/)

Blackbookpress1984
02-29-2012, 12:14 PM
Google to record your web browsing history, and combine it with data from their other programs. read it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/how-to-clear-your-google-search-history-account-info/2012/02/29/gIQAXDcCiR_story.html

sentient02970
03-01-2012, 02:44 PM
Breitbart: dead. (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/01/us-usa-politics-breitbart-idUSTRE8201AV20120301)

50 Volt Phantom
03-01-2012, 03:12 PM
I'm sure I'm alone on this here, but he will be missed, such a shame to die so young. Rest in peace Breitbart.

sublimaze
03-01-2012, 08:05 PM
I'm sure I'm alone on this here, but he will be missed, such a shame to die so young. Rest in peace Breitbart.

My condolences to the family. I'll take the Jewish route and hope that he has no existence after death. He was not beneficial to our society.

50 Volt Phantom
03-01-2012, 08:40 PM
Ya, and I would completely disagree, he took on the people not beneficial to our society.

orestes
03-01-2012, 08:45 PM
Yeah, like Shirley Sherrod.

50 Volt Phantom
03-01-2012, 09:03 PM
Yep, he sure did. I just hope someone can fill his place. The left has played with a different set of rules for decades and he showed us that we don't have to take it anymore. What he helped do to scum like ACORN, to that moron Anthony Weiner, all of it, was amazing.

orestes
03-01-2012, 09:06 PM
Obviously, you didn't pick up on my sarcasm.

50 Volt Phantom
03-01-2012, 09:27 PM
Oh I picked it up.

theruiner
03-01-2012, 10:46 PM
What he helped do to scum like ACORNOh, you mean that video that the district attorney deemed was heavily edited with portions of the video spliced together out of context? You mean that one?

50 Volt Phantom
03-01-2012, 11:13 PM
Is ACORN still an organization? Weren't they going to do the census?

Editing or no editing, the videos did their job. It's laughable to hear that kind of response from someone that supports a party that has utilized editing and out of context quotes for ages anyway. I'm pretty sure liberal god Michael Moore has made his whole career off of that shit.

By the way, it's a real shocker that a Democrat attorney general from Massachusetts would find a way to side with ACORN, I mean I was totally surprised by that.

theruiner
03-01-2012, 11:45 PM
Um...except no one is making a blanket generalization about the right here. At all. We're talking about Breitbart. You are the one making absurd blanket generalizations based on one person (Moore). And you're defending Breitbart while calling Michael Moore out for the same thing.

And for the record, I can't stand Michael Moore for that very reason. I don't care what side you're on, if you're taking things out of context and editing them in a dishonest way, you're a scumbag who can't be trusted. Period.

50 Volt Phantom
03-02-2012, 09:05 AM
In all honesty I question O'Keefe's methods on these stings, but I enjoy the results, sometimes you have to fight fire with fire.

theruiner
03-02-2012, 11:36 AM
Ah, so being dishonest is ok in your book. Got it. Duly noted.

50 Volt Phantom
03-02-2012, 12:17 PM
ACORN still did what they did, nothing dishonest about it, it happened at multiple locations too. Democrats know all about dishonesty, so I don't see what the problem is.

orestes
03-02-2012, 07:13 PM
Glittering Generalities!!

Ryan
03-04-2012, 12:51 AM
http://external.ak.fbcdn.net/safe_image.php?d=AQBGujwubfnOVOCK&w=90&h=90&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.physorg.com%2Fnewman%2Fgfx%2F news%2Ftmb%2F2012%2Fghhujuu.jpg (http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-02-renowned-physicist-microscope-peer-brain.html)Renowned physicist invents microscope that can peer at living brain cells (http://www.physorg.com/news/2012-02-renowned-physicist-microscope-peer-brain.html)

mfte
03-05-2012, 09:32 AM
Rolling Dutch Euthanasia Mobile

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/01/dutch-mobile-euthanasia-units

Nyx
03-07-2012, 04:30 AM
A racist EU advert
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/video/2012/mar/06/european-commission-advert-attack-video
How the hell did this video get a green light? Ridiculous.

sentient02970
03-07-2012, 09:43 AM
This is the first I've heard of this ever happening.

California man arrested in killing of girlfriend with cannon (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/07/us-cannon-death-california-idUSTRE82604920120307)

miss k bee
03-07-2012, 01:00 PM
I dont find it racist just stupid

Fixer808
03-07-2012, 01:46 PM
Rolling Dutch Euthanasia Mobile

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/mar/01/dutch-mobile-euthanasia-units
"IF THIS VAN IS A-ROCKIN'... someone's dying inside."

miss k bee
03-07-2012, 08:18 PM
Teenage girl dupes two girls into thinking she was a boy

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2111535/Gemma-Barker-Jessica-Sayers-duped-dating-2-boys-realising-SAME-GIRL.html

littlemonkey613
03-09-2012, 05:49 PM
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/07/arizona-senate-passes-bill-allowing-doctors-to-not-inform-women-of-prenatal-issues-to-prevent-abortions/

"It’s called a “wrongful birth” bill and it’s all about preventing women from having an abortion, even if it kills them. The Arizona Senate passed a bill this week that gives doctors a free pass to not inform pregnant women of prenatal problems because such information could lead to an abortion"

theruiner
03-10-2012, 12:50 AM
Oh, my God. That's repulsive. Honestly, I literally sat here with my jaw hanging open while reading that. I can't even wrap my head around that.

Arizona really sucks.

halloween
03-10-2012, 06:37 PM
98!! advertiser are withdrawing not JUST from Rush Limbaugh's show. (http://boingboing.net/2012/03/10/98-major-advertisers-say-no-to.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

WorzelG
03-14-2012, 06:26 AM
There has been some controversy about running these Doonesbury cartoons in the newspapers. I found them really funny

http://www.reddit.com/tb/quspq

What is happening in the US? I've no room to judge really being from the UK, but it seems like having a black president has sent some people running back to fundamentalist Christianity in a big way, who would ever vote for Rick

This should prob go in random headlines actually if someone could do the honours

NIN64
03-15-2012, 01:51 PM
This is a great idea! (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/13/sxsw-homeless-hotspots_n_1342972.html?ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false) $50 a day PLUS tips for 6 hours work just to be a wi-fi hotspot! Why is this controversial?

MAD
03-15-2012, 05:57 PM
This happens in present day Romania. The protesters have the right to be there but the police is abusing its powers. Share this video and post it everywhere.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42Hiso5rTDA&feature=share

Basically, they do not disturb any pedestrian, block no roads so they can protest as much as they want. BUT! The "president" ordered the police to arrest everyone.

theruiner
03-17-2012, 08:06 PM
Turns out, This American Life was lied to, (http://www.avclub.com/chicago/articles/this-american-life-says-one-of-its-most-popular-st,71042/) had to retract an entire episode because of it, and dedicated an entire, hour-long episode to the retraction, going over all the inaccuracies, and interviewing the guy that lied to them.

I'm not a big fan of the show, but I'll definitely be listening to this episode.

miss k bee
03-18-2012, 03:44 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2116438/Fabrice-Muamba-collapse-Bolton-player-suffers-suspected-heart-attack-pitch.html

This happens quite a bit with fit young football and rugby players who have undiagnosed heart conditions . Hope he pulls through.

Dra508
03-19-2012, 07:56 AM
^^^^ This happens way more then it should. We had a 18 year old athlete just die in his sleep this year. Very sad.



Turns out, This American Life was lied to, (http://www.avclub.com/chicago/articles/this-american-life-says-one-of-its-most-popular-st,71042/) had to retract an entire episode because of it, and dedicated an entire, hour-long episode to the retraction, going over all the inaccuracies, and interviewing the guy that lied to them.

I'm not a big fan of the show, but I'll definitely be listening to this episode.Oh shit, I gotta listen to that. I went to Mike Daisey's one-man show a couple of years ago and enjoyed it. He talked about Tesla and growing up in Maine.

theruiner
03-19-2012, 08:04 AM
It was a great episode! One of the most riveting interviews I've heard in a long, long time. Ira just completely calls him out right to his face. It's awkward and tense.

halloween
03-20-2012, 08:43 PM
This is strange: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7df_1332197284

Pillfred
03-22-2012, 11:48 AM
I have friend who has been following this (2nd amendment/journalists rights) with some frantic attention. This isn't the first time this has happened and to hear him talk about it were all fucked. With every thing that has been going on lately i can see how he would think such a thing.

NIN64
03-22-2012, 01:41 PM
This is strange: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7df_1332197284

Any idea what the context is here? What were the media there to cover?

halloween
03-22-2012, 09:35 PM
Any idea what the context is here? What were the media there to cover?
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Chicago-Police-Take-NBC-Chicago-Photojournalist-Into-Custody-Warn-1st-Amendment-Rights-Can-Be-Terminated-143105086.html

i'm even more confused, really does seem like an over reaction.

october_midnight
03-23-2012, 12:58 PM
I'm sure most of you have heard of Trayvon Martin, the young man who was gunned down by an insane asshole a short while back (if not, read up...it's an insane story). Well now, your favorite dumb-as-fuck asshole Geraldo Rivera has chimed in with his belief, and I can't believe I'm even typing this, that if Trayvon wasn't wearing a hoodie, he wouldn't have been shot. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/23/geraldo-rivera-trayvon-martin-hoodie_n_1375080.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003)

To be honest, Geraldo's silent film villain mustache scares me more than any hoodie ever could. He looks like he just tied a lady to train tracks.

sweeterthan
03-23-2012, 01:53 PM
I'm sure most of you have heard of Trayvon Martin, the young man who was gunned down by an insane asshole a short while back (if not, read up...it's an insane story). Well now, your favorite dumb-as-fuck asshole Geraldo Rivera has chimed in with his belief, and I can't believe I'm even typing this, that if Trayvon wasn't wearing a hoodie, he wouldn't have been shot. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/23/geraldo-rivera-trayvon-martin-hoodie_n_1375080.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003)

To be honest, Geraldo's silent film villain mustache scares me more than any hoodie ever could. He looks like he just tied a lady to train tracks.
The whole thing is terribly sad. It's not self defense if you're the aggressor. George Zimmerman followed Trayvon and shot him and walks around now as a free man. Scary!

The Becoming
03-23-2012, 03:37 PM
I'm sure most of you have heard of Trayvon Martin, the young man who was gunned down by an insane asshole a short while back (if not, read up...it's an insane story). Well now, your favorite dumb-as-fuck asshole Geraldo Rivera has chimed in with his belief, and I can't believe I'm even typing this, that if Trayvon wasn't wearing a hoodie, he wouldn't have been shot. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/23/geraldo-rivera-trayvon-martin-hoodie_n_1375080.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003)

To be honest, Geraldo's silent film villain mustache scares me more than any hoodie ever could. He looks like he just tied a lady to train tracks.

Someone should probably tell Elliot from E.T. to lay low for a while.


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50 Volt Phantom
03-24-2012, 01:21 PM
Not so fast...

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012

NIN64
03-24-2012, 02:17 PM
Not so fast...

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/witness-martin-attacked-zimmerman-03232012

I'd bet that if you were out walking somewhere and some dude you don't know was following and making you uncomfortable it could lead to some sort of altercation. I could understand the whole "self defense" thing if the kid was also armed, but he wasn't. . .

sweeterthan
03-24-2012, 05:14 PM
Zimmerman is not a cop. He has no right to detain or question Martin. None whatsoever. Zimmerman was told not to follow Martin. He stalked him and then shot him. Its not self defense when you're the aggressor.

theimage13
03-26-2012, 06:58 PM
Its not self defense when you're the aggressor.

According to Jeb Bush, the NRA, and Florida state laws, apparently it is. I'll bet my life savings that Zimmerman, IF arrested, will never be convicted.

50 Volt Phantom
03-26-2012, 08:33 PM
Ya, see it's obvious the whole story isn't out there, so I'm hoping he isn't convicted.

How do you all feel about Sharpton and Jackson's typical exploitation of the situation? What about the Black Panther bounty?

onthewall2983
03-26-2012, 08:50 PM
I went to this school (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/25/austin-carroll-indiana-hi_n_1378250.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009&ref=fb&src=sp&comm_ref=false#sb=2898246,b=facebook). Not surprised at all this happened there.

sweeterthan
03-27-2012, 12:38 PM
According to Jeb Bush, the NRA, and Florida state laws, apparently it is. I'll bet my life savings that Zimmerman, IF arrested, will never be convicted.

Looks like Jeb Bush is singing a different a tune:
http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/jeb-bush-self-defense-1396787.html


Stand your ground means stand your ground. It doesn't mean chase after somebody who's turned their back.

50 Volt Phantom
03-27-2012, 12:59 PM
Looks like Zimmerman is a registered Democrat, I'm sure that won't be reported hardly anywhere.

NIN64
03-27-2012, 01:33 PM
Looks like Zimmerman is a registered Democrat, I'm sure that won't be reported hardly anywhere.

The fuck does that have to do with anything? Troll.

50 Volt Phantom
03-29-2012, 08:18 AM
It ruins the perception of Zimmerman as a gun wielding conservative vigilante, it's like when that guy shot up the Holocaust museum, news networks were more than happy to paint the picture of a crazed Republican, but once it starting trickling out that he was a major leftist they basically just started downplaying his politics.

Corvus T. Cosmonaut
03-29-2012, 06:44 PM
I haven't seen any coverage on George Zimmerman's political party affiliation, really. Outside rants on the internet either attempting to paint him as right-wing or Republican, or an even larger number of conservative pieces about how leftist-liberal media have been trying to paint Zimmerman as Republican, the overwhelming response seems to be, just, "Murderer!" But then I don't watch television news because so much of it is worthless.

"Major leftist"? Please, don't go on perpetuating political hyperbole in the same post where you're trying to denounce it.

50 Volt Phantom
03-29-2012, 09:55 PM
The Holocaust shooter was a major leftist described as a nut job right winger, that's not exaggeration, nor is the fact that the story was swayed by the leftist media once those facts came out. As far as the Zimmerman thing goes, it has become political, unless you think taking shots at Jeb Bush and the NRA aren't blatantly political pot shots, and that politicians implying racism in the case in the same breath as supposed racism amongst conservatives isn't political too.

Deus Ex Machina
03-30-2012, 02:05 PM
The Holocaust shooter was a major leftist.

I'm afraid James von Brunn was no such thing (even though it would be irrelevant had he been). I would go so far as to argue that he was neither a right or left winger, but a holocaust denier, a white supremacist, and Fed conspiracy theorist; things I don't attribute to either 'wing' and tend to exist on their own political spectrum. But where he did show left/right political leanings, von Brunn was a Bush apologist, a Palin apologist, and a Birther (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/documents/2009/06/james-w-von-brunn-obama-is-missing.php?page=1&ref=fpblg).

I didn't really pay your comments about von Brunn much mind, mostly because they were irrelevant to the situation at hand, but for some reason I decided to check and immediately failed to find anything that would merit him a 'Leftist' label (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=James+von+Brunn); not using a coherent definition of the term 'Leftist' anyway. You know, I thought I was just being paranoid, that an argument that bad would probably include things that were marginally true, but, holy shit man, I'm a little creeped out.

allegro
03-30-2012, 06:43 PM
i'm starting to think this 50 Volt Phantom is nothing but a stereotypical troll. I vote we ignore him. That's what I'm gonna do from now on. Do we have an "ignore" feature on this new board?

Edit: Oh, why, YES WE DO! Thank you, new board. Done!

50 Volt Phantom
03-30-2012, 07:11 PM
Search "James Von Brunn leftist" and it all comes up, not real difficult. He was a Holocaust denier, a Truther, an Anti-semite, and raged about Bush and neocons on his website. Those all read fringe left to me. But hey ignore away.

Deus Ex Machina
03-30-2012, 07:24 PM
Search "James Von Brunn leftist" and it all comes up, not real difficult. He was a Holocaust denier, a Truther, an Anti-semite, and raged about Bush and neocons on his website. Those all read fringe left to me. But hey ignore away.

allegro, I may take you up on that ignore. But Volt, I did google 'James Von Brunn leftist' and well, it would take years of deprogramming before I think you could really grasp my response. If you're a troll, well done. If not, seek help.

50 Volt Phantom
03-30-2012, 08:20 PM
I guess you can imagine him they way you think he is, and I'll take him for what he really is. His politics are relevant too, since the MSM propped him up as a crazy conservative going nuts, after all that helps their bottom line of trying to paint conservatives as dangerous, and the MSM is using the same tactics now with the Trayvon killing.

theruiner
03-30-2012, 09:14 PM
Can you talk about any topic without dragging in conspiracies about how the "leftist" media is trying to destroy the world? Jesus, I half expect you to pop up in the NIN section with a post about how The Fragile anniversary edition is really a leftist plot by MSNBC to destroy conservatism, instill socialism and brainwash children into a cult of robot-like killing machines, hell bent on the destruction of America.

Actually, that last one might have some merit.

50 Volt Phantom
03-30-2012, 09:19 PM
Oh I'm sorry, am I just supposed to join you all in mocking conservatives instead and circle jerking about how great a failure of a President and his policies are? The education system, the media, and Hollywood all lean left, their influence and reach is large.

Besides I thought you said you were going to ignore me a long time ago like Allegro has promised to do, could you not at least stand by your words?

Corvus T. Cosmonaut
03-31-2012, 05:04 AM
Search "James Von Brunn leftist" and it all comes up, not real difficult. He was a Holocaust denier, a Truther, an Anti-semite, and raged about Bush and neocons on his website. Those all read fringe left to me. But hey ignore away.
I'll be charitable enough to give you Truther as a leftist position (although I know there are contrary examples), and I'll even give you the matter of Bush and bitching about neocons (tho here, too, I can point to some rather scathing commentary from libertarians and non-neocon conservatives), but how are Holocaust denial and anti-semitism inherently "leftist"? And, please, include an explanation about what "leftist" actually means, to you.

The point is people will call him whatever's convenient for their own political group because people are biased and want to dally about like the actions of an asshole speak to the ethical ground of the whole. Which is bullshit, obviously—it's bullshit when liberal media types write editorials about so-and-so shooting what or whomever and doesn't-that-say-so-much-about-the-GOP-and-NRA? and so on, and it's bullshit when the other side clings to something and starts weaving their tale of atheistic secularism and dehumanizing communism and ethical voids and so on.

All of that is the sort of thing we ought NOT be getting tied up on, as in the case of Brunn. His madness transcends political categorization, and he's best described as that worst-of-all-worlds beast we've come over the past decade or two to know as "the conspiracy theorist", who knows no allegation of deceit too unbelievable. But even that is an over-simplification and a way of attempting to build some kind of sociological construct through which we can begin to understand these people, when really Brunn was just sick, as anyone who'd do such a thing was sick, and as healthy and sane and reasonably or at least comparatively well-balanced people we don't really have access to the sort of thought and feelings that pounded against the inside of his skull before he decided to open fire in that museum.

(/drunk)

Deus Ex Machina
03-31-2012, 03:20 PM
I'll be charitable enough to give you Truther as a leftist position (although I know there are contrary examples) Most truthers I meet tend to be libertarians, which, I think, exists on it's own political spectrum, adjacent to but not a part of, your typical left-right of American politics. I'd argue that anyone who belived that the government perpetrated something of that scale would be unlikely to support anyone currently or in a position to run for office.


how are Holocaust denial and anti-semitism inherently "leftist"? And, please, include an explanation about what "leftist" actually means, to you. Exactly my thoughts: 'Von Brunn a "Leftist" huh? Surprised, but I suppose it's possible he's some kind of wannabe one-man Weather Underground or Misguided Gringo Zapatista. Let me actually google this . . . ' And, oh dear. Nope, nothing near that coherent. But I took a short trip down the rabbit hole and I think I've got a handle on it: All lefties, secretly, hate Israel and Jews, therefore anyone who hates Israel and Jews must be 'a leftist'. . . .

Yep.

50 Volt Phantom
04-01-2012, 06:19 PM
Ya except a lot of them aren't secret about it, just look at most of Obama's pals, they have no problem apologizing for Palestine and shitting on Israel.

Corvus T. Cosmonaut
04-01-2012, 07:27 PM
Having now perused your numerous examples of clear anti-semitic comments from "leftists" who in this case happen to be pals of Obama, I am convinced that you were right all along.

:rolleyes:

theruiner
04-02-2012, 05:31 PM
Gunman opens fire at northern California college this morning; nine people shot, six dead (http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/02/us/california-shooting/index.html)

Hazekiah
04-03-2012, 06:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkXO-C_edX4


http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17ifyroztutb3jpg/xlarge.jpg




Tonight, Venus puts on a cosmic light show
here’s how to see it


Once every eight years, a luminous Venus passes directly between Earth and an elusive cluster of stars known as the Pleiades. Tonight, you'll have a chance to witness this event with your own eyes.

The photo up top was taken a few days ago on the evening of March 31st, and showcases the two astronomical entities that you'll be looking for. Obvious-as-ever is Venus, the brightest object in the night sky save for the Moon, beaming on the right. Less dazzling, but conspicuous in its own right, is the cluster of blue stars gathered on the left. These are the Pleiades.


Also known as Messier object 45 (M45) or the "Seven Sisters," the young star cluster is thought to have formed less than 100 million years ago, which helps explain the blue-white hue of its largest members (http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap091014.html). At just 400 light years away, the Pleiades are still visible with the naked eye, but they're usually easier to spot with a pair of binoculars or a small telescope. Tonight, however, you should be able to spot them due to their proximity to Venus. According to NASA, the planet will join the Pleiades in the night sky beginning just after sunset, making it "look like a supernova has gone off inside the cluster."


Full size (http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17ifxttms7imfgif/original.gif)
http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17ifxttms7imfgif/medium.gif



The cosmic conjunction began last night, and will remain visible through Wednesday, when Venus finishes passing across the face of the cluster. Tonight, however, promises to provide the most spellbinding view. Look west as soon as the Sun dips below the horizon, and remember to look for the light of Venus — you'll find it resting in the company of the Seven Sisters.

(Also: be sure to check out this breathtaking photo of the Pleiades posing with Ecuador's active Tungurahua volcano (http://io9.com/5898440/theres-so-much-awesome-in-this-photograph-i-can-hardly-stand-it).)
Top image by Jimmy Westlake (http://www.jwestlake.com/JRWjr_Astrophotography/Welcome.html) via NASA (http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/02apr_venuspleiades/); sky map via NASA (http://science.nasa.gov/media/medialibrary/2012/04/02/skymap.gif)


Contact Robert T. Gonzalez:

Email the author (rtgonzalez@io9.com)




http://io9.com/5898566/tonight-venus-puts-on-a-cosmic-light-show-++-heres-how-to-see-it

halloween
04-07-2012, 02:14 PM
Hackers stole Chinese government defense contracts (https://www.zdnet.com/blog/security/hacker-steals-chinese-government-defense-contracts/11386)


A hacktivist who goes by the name Hardcore Charlie has posted thousands of internal documents he claims to have obtained by hacking Beijing-based China National Import & Export Corp (CEIEC), a major company that holds Chinese government defense contracts. The documents range from internal business memos to U.S. military transport data, including many related to the U.S. war effort in Afghanistan, according to the hacker.

PQHooligan
04-07-2012, 04:33 PM
RIP "Painter Of Light" Thomas Kinkade (http://losgatos.patch.com/articles/thomas-kinkade-dies-in-los-gatos)

littlemonkey613
04-07-2012, 06:47 PM
http://www.aolnews.com/2011/04/08/46-percent-of-mississippi-republicans-want-interracial-marriage/

I can't believe I got in an argument on the other thread about racism in America when shit like this exists....

"A whopping 46 percent of likely GOP primary voters [in Mississippi] said they think interracial marriage should be illegal, while only 40 percent said they think it should be allowed. Another 14 percent said they were unsure."

orestes
04-07-2012, 06:54 PM
Dude, it's Mississippi.

Corvus T. Cosmonaut
04-08-2012, 12:37 AM
Not just Miss., but likely GOP primary voters, who tend to bend the needle far further into the red than the state's GOP voters as a whole. (This is the case with all primary voters, as far as I know.)

littlemonkey613
04-08-2012, 02:01 AM
^Hahah yes still the fact that these people exist in the 100's of thousands really makes me shiver.

nvr_mind
04-08-2012, 02:08 AM
Yep. This is my hometown...

http://www2.godanriver.com/news/2012/apr/07/easter-bunny-arrested-danville-mall-ar-1826283/

marodi
04-08-2012, 03:10 PM
RIP Mike Wallace (http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20585330,00.html?xid=rss-fullcontent)

Back in the late 80s when I was taking advance English classes in college (to hopefully learn the language; see, you can actually learn something in school!) 60 Minutes was one program the teacher was having us watch and I kept watching it on my own for a long time after that.

Another legendary journalist gone... :(

Fixer808
04-08-2012, 03:27 PM
And Bill O'Reilly continues to walk the Earth unmolested...

miss k bee
04-14-2012, 03:22 PM
Think I may of been at this TCV concert

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2128258/Amateur-actor-died-stabbing-unbearable-tinnitus-rock-concert.html

Jinsai
04-14-2012, 04:04 PM
Think I may of been at this TCV concert

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2128258/Amateur-actor-died-stabbing-unbearable-tinnitus-rock-concert.html

it's because of stories like this that I get pissed off when I see concerts where bands play too loud. When I saw My Bloody Valentine play, I left the show early even though I had earplugs in... it was just obscene. The walls of the venue were shaking, and I saw people walking around without ear plugs in (which in that case was just stupid). I get that concerts are supposed to be loud, but sometimes it gets to a point where it's just insulting and disrespectful.

halloween
04-20-2012, 12:21 AM
Blegh,
how can people fall into this type of logic?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/04/19/1084699/-Eric-Cantor-says-it-s-time-to-tax-the-poor-?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+dailykos/index+(Daily+Kos)

theruiner
04-23-2012, 09:52 PM
California shows 'em how it's done: Bill would make it illegal to administer 'ex-gay therapy' to anyone under 18. (http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/04/23/469667/california-ex-gay-bill/)

halloween
04-24-2012, 01:52 PM
Urban Outfitters fashion faux pas... (http://rt.com/art-and-culture/news/urban-outfitters-holocaust-star-830/)Ugh, i hate that store.

october_midnight
04-26-2012, 01:05 PM
This will probably be discussed right up until this summer, and I'm not sure how it's even possible to pull off, but the Olympics in London are not allowing any sharing of photos via social networks for people in attendance. (http://www.petapixel.com/2012/04/25/london-olympics-wont-allow-sharing-of-photos-and-video-via-social-networks/)

Pretty interesting in my opinion. Would Facebook pics not be 'personal'?? Are they going to eject people for taking pics from the crowd? Is that even doable?

Fixer808
04-26-2012, 09:05 PM
This will probably be discussed right up until this summer, and I'm not sure how it's even possible to pull off, but the Olympics in London are not allowing any sharing of photos via social networks for people in attendance. (http://www.petapixel.com/2012/04/25/london-olympics-wont-allow-sharing-of-photos-and-video-via-social-networks/)

Pretty interesting in my opinion. Would Facebook pics not be 'personal'?? Are they going to eject people for taking pics from the crowd? Is that even doable?
Yeah, good luck with that, security company. Only way it would even remotely be possible would be to flood the event venues in infrared light. Invisible to us, but visible to a camera. Problem with that is that then there would be zero way of broadcasting anything ever.

I guess they're just going to google everyone in the world after the whole thing ends and start suing left and right.

Jinsai
04-28-2012, 01:48 AM
Frivolous lawsuit is frivolous (http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-exchange/today-food-finance-nutella-not-broccoli-162956191.html)

Elke
05-04-2012, 03:42 PM
On the topic of the Bin Laden correspondence, Slate published Reflections of a Terrorist (http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2012/05/bin_laden_s_documents_al_qaida_letters_show_the_mo ral_and_political_failure_of_terrorism_.html).

My first thought when I got to this?


In Somalia, Bin Laden cautioned against al-Shabab’s harsh and rigid interpretations of Islamic law. He counseled the group to grant “the benefit of doubt when it comes to dealing with crimes and applying Sharia,” so that the most extreme punishments could be avoided.

Shit. We killed al-Qaida's conscience...

theruiner
05-05-2012, 11:20 PM
Arizona bans funding for Planned Parenthood (http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2012/05/05/planned_parenthood_arizona_jan_brewer_signs_law_th at_bans_funding.html)

I want out of this state so bad.

Alexandros
05-06-2012, 03:34 PM
Great. Just great. The Nazi-worshipping party of Greece, "Golden Dawn", is racking up 6-8% (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/06/greek-elections-exit-polls-parties) so far in the elections, they will definitely be part of the new parliament if a stable government is formed.

EDIT: To put it into perspective, these guys were getting around 0.2% in previous elections. My only hope is that this surge is almost exclusively a "protest" vote and that people who voted them didn't really think through WHO they were voting (though this is not terribly reassuring either) and will understand their mistake in the following days. Because seriously, this party is Nazis Inc. Remember American History X? They're that bad.

orestes
05-06-2012, 04:29 PM
Sarkozy defeated in French presidential race. (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/world_now/2012/05/hollande-defeats-sarkozy-in-french-presidential-race.html)

Thank god Le Pen didn't win, either.

halloween
05-06-2012, 07:18 PM
China wants to name Dalai Lama's "successor". (https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/dalai-lama-mocks-chinas-interest-in-naming-his-successor/article2416580/)Silly China, Buddhism doesn't work that way!

theruiner
05-08-2012, 11:12 PM
North Carolina passes ban on same sex marriage (http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/08/politics/north-carolina-marriage/index.html)

halloween
05-09-2012, 03:16 PM
North Carolina passes ban on same sex marriage (http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/08/politics/north-carolina-marriage/index.html)

Why do we live in a place that has that, and then this: http://news.yahoo.com/obama-announces-his-support-for-same-sex-marriage.html

halloween
05-09-2012, 03:20 PM
Oh, what i really wanted to post in here was this: the increasing rate of plastic pollution in the oceans. (http://worldnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/09/11612593-study-plastic-in-great-pacific-garbage-patch-increases-100-fold)

Blackbookpress1984
05-09-2012, 05:25 PM
that's messed up ^^

october_midnight
05-15-2012, 12:17 AM
Newly discovered Mayan calendar extends way past 2012. (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/story/2012-05-08/maya-apocalypse-calendar-2012/54879760/1)

Now that that bullshit has been dealt with, can we collectively smack all the people who buy in to Astrology now?

theruiner
05-15-2012, 12:42 AM
And just like that, stocks on Coast to Coast dropped 50 percent.

orestes
05-15-2012, 07:25 AM
Newly discovered Mayan calendar extends way past 2012. (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/story/2012-05-08/maya-apocalypse-calendar-2012/54879760/1)

Now that that bullshit has been dealt with, can we collectively smack all the people who buy in to Astrology now?

Yes.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZB88HnlLgZ8

Corvus T. Cosmonaut
05-15-2012, 03:52 PM
I wish, but our astrology is not derived from misconceptions about the Mayan calendar. So I'm not really sure what the finding about Mayans plotting dates past 2012—which isn't new, BTW: we've known for ages that they weren't stopping with 2012, even if the end-of-the-worlders kept their heads in the sand—has to do with astrology in the first place.

october_midnight
05-15-2012, 04:09 PM
It was a joke. Does it ever get tiresome over thinking literally everything? "Hmm I want a sandwich, but the distance to the kitchen isn't equidistant to the bathroom, so it probably wouldn't be beneficial in the pursuit of alleviating my hunger."

Corvus T. Cosmonaut
05-15-2012, 04:21 PM
Oh. It must be one of those modern jokes, where the comedy is meant to derive from mere implication, like those Seltzer-Friedberg movies.

PooPooMeowChow
05-15-2012, 10:02 PM
The G8/NATO summit's start tomorrow in Chicago. Riots will ensue undoubtedly.
http://www.ustream.tv/timcast
Timcast is really good at covering Occupy stuff.
Nothing happening right now other than about 100 or so people marching and chanting "fuck the police". But stuff will heat up for sure over the next couple days.

allegro
05-15-2012, 10:23 PM
G8 isn't in Chicago, anymore, thank God (only NATO is here). We've been on this crazy lockdown security alert thing downtown for a while and it's scaring the shit out of everybody because we don't know if parking or traffic will totally suck. I work in the North Loop so it's not likely to affect me much (other than fuck up a few of my real estate closings) but its still gonna be a huge pain in the ass.

PooPooMeowChow
05-15-2012, 10:28 PM
^true G8 is at Camp David now. But the protests will still be going down.

allegro
05-15-2012, 10:32 PM
hardly our biggest problem.

http://www.chicagonato.org/secret-service--road-closures-announced-for-nato-summit-press_release-15.php

my husband is an air traffic controller, you wouldn't BELIEVE the shit they have to do (runway sweeps, F16 controls).

also, this city is SO ready for protests, it's ridiculous. a minor inconvenience compared to security and terrorist threats.

the real shit doesn't hit the fan until Sunday.

theruiner
05-16-2012, 10:57 PM
Governor Brown signs law that makes gay history a required part of the school curriculum in California (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/14/calif-gov-signs-landmark-law-to-teach-gay-history/)

See, Arizona? That's how you do it. It's called progression. You should try it sometime.

october_midnight
05-16-2012, 11:16 PM
Governor Brown signs law that makes gay history a required part of the school curriculum in California (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/14/calif-gov-signs-landmark-law-to-teach-gay-history/)

See, Arizona? That's how you do it. It's called progression. You should try it sometime.

Wow, that's pretty terrific. I honestly don't know though if it's going to spurn every other state to consider it, but dammit it should.

theruiner
05-16-2012, 11:20 PM
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it will spread. I'm not optimistic, but I'm hoping.

Jinsai
05-17-2012, 02:43 AM
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it will spread. I'm not optimistic, but I'm hoping.

While I'm completely on the side of supporting this and agree that it's a necessary progressive push, I'm going to offer the perhaps downer opinion that this is a dangerous thing to encourage right now. A large part of the backing for Prop 8 (the anti gay marriage proposition) was being sold on the bullshit that "if they legalize gay marriage, then next thing you know they're going to be teaching our kids about homosexuality in school!" And this was in CA... a progressive state, and they sadly voted in favor of Prop 8.

It's a really divisive topic in this country. The very suggestion of this sort of thing in a red state would create some really hateful public discourse. A complete meltdown would ensue. Maybe I'm just being pessimistic, but I just don't think this country is ready for this yet... and I'm willing to bet that people (assholes) are going to start pointing to this law as the result of the "slippery slope" that starts with supporting gay rights.


Newly discovered Mayan calendar extends way past 2012. (http://www.usatoday.com/tech/science/story/2012-05-08/maya-apocalypse-calendar-2012/54879760/1)

Now that that bullshit has been dealt with, can we collectively smack all the people who buy in to Astrology now?

Sure, but while we're at it, we might as well point out that if it hadn't been for the institution of the leap year, 2012 already came and went.

orestes
05-17-2012, 10:16 AM
Well, I follow the French Revolution calendar so it's only 221. ;)

Sutekh
05-17-2012, 10:38 AM
Search "James Von Brunn leftist" and it all comes up, not real difficult. He was a Holocaust denier, a Truther, an Anti-semite, and raged about Bush and neocons on his website. Those all read fringe left to me. But hey ignore away.

Holocaust denial signifies fringe left to you? You must be taking the piss... Name one leftist figure or movement that denies the holocaust...

I would argue "truthing" has more links to the right, they invariably come down to shadow government, nwo, big money being responsible, and anyone who knows anything about the anti semitism of the far right will recognise those silhouettes/ciphers

Just because someone is critical of bush and neocons does not mean they are left... The extreme right is critical of all non extreme right admins, does that make them left? Put very simply... If i dont think bush is right wing enough, does that mean i am left? Of course not

Out of interest, what do you define as left?

theruiner
05-20-2012, 01:50 AM
NAACP endorses marriage equality (http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j70Zaa6GJX78LcSJnoAQo1JbxlCw?docId=a15631e9b 0374cfc912ee0bd9dfe1904)

Awesome.

theruiner
05-21-2012, 06:01 AM
Scientists have discovered what may be our oldest living ancestor (http://news.discovery.com/animals/oldest-organism-120428.html)

allegro
05-22-2012, 12:09 AM
This guy's first-hand account of yesterday's big NATO rally in Millennium Park is AWESOME, notwithstanding his bad spelling and punctuation, I have a total crush on him*:
http://brucecameronelliott.blogspot.com/2012/05/yesterday-morning-faggypants-street.html?zx=94beab84bc8972f3

Fixer808
05-22-2012, 06:48 PM
Scientists have discovered what may be our oldest living ancestor (http://news.discovery.com/animals/oldest-organism-120428.html)
Oldest now that Dick Clark is dead, you mean.

Jinsai
05-23-2012, 05:36 PM
what the FUCK is wrong with North Carolina?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2n7vSPwhSU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d2n7vSPwhSU)

Highly Psychological
05-23-2012, 07:52 PM
If i had been in that church i actually would have rugby tackled him then i would have pissed on him.

He is a relic (pathetic sad old cunt). He just looks stupid, he should be held responsible, but what can you do?? Just pure hate the church can spread sometimes.

If there had been a depressed 16 year old closet Homsexual in that audience the damage is already done.

Its so important young people are educated on Homosexuality. Fuck these old religious nutjobs, they need to be phased out.
Do the right thing.

Elke
05-24-2012, 03:13 AM
I didn't know Homosexuality was a capitalized noun.

Also: EU wants Greece to stay in eurozone, says Van Rompuy (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18185662)


UK Prime Minister David Cameron emphasised the agreements that EU leaders had reached on Wednesday.
"It was a good meeting in that there was complete agreement that dealing with deficits and getting growth are not alternatives, they go together. You need to do one in order to get the other," he said


FUCKING FINALLY! That neoliberal capitalist fascism of the Council has been slowly killing countries like Greece and Portugal, and at least this is a green light for Belgian socialist/ecologist parties to finally make a fist and say FUCK YOU EU when it comes to mandatory cuts in government spending.
I'm only basically schooled in economy, and even I know you cannot fight your way out of a recession with cuts in government spending alone. All it does is factually lowering the spending potential of middle and lower class households, enhancing the crisis instead of pacifycing the mechanisms behind it.

Alexandros
05-24-2012, 07:21 AM
Also: EU wants Greece to stay in eurozone, says Van Rompuy (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18185662)

That's great and all, but over here optimism is nearly dead. We only have a temporary government and it is very likely that the elections of June 17th will not produce a majority government either, not even through coalitions. And nobody seems willing to make some compromises, take responsibility and pull the country out of this mess. All that the previous election did was further prove what petty, bickering, ambitious (in a bad way) and highly dangerous politicians we have.

mfte
05-24-2012, 08:56 AM
China colonizing the US of A?

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/45-signs-that-china-is-colonizing-america

Elke
05-24-2012, 03:50 PM
That's great and all, but over here optimism is nearly dead. We only have a temporary government and it is very likely that the elections of June 17th will not produce a majority government either, not even through coalitions. And nobody seems willing to make some compromises, take responsibility and pull the country out of this mess. All that the previous election did was further prove what petty, bickering, ambitious (in a bad way) and highly dangerous politicians we have.

I don't know much about Greek politics, but is it true that there is a time limit that each party has to respect in trying to form a coalition? And that you usually don't have coalition governments.

If I look at how long our government was in the making (we broke every single record, including Iraq, most even twice over) and the problems with the Dutch coalition, it is getting difficult everywhere, and it's definitely not just Greece. Belgium and The Netherlands have a very long tradition of coalition governments, but populism coupled with a financial crisis and its devestating social effects on one hand, and the demands of the neoliberal EU Commission, is making it hard everywhere.

Are you personally affected by the cuts?

DF118
05-24-2012, 05:18 PM
China colonizing the US of A?

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/45-signs-that-china-is-colonizing-america

Not really, no.




Do you want your standard of living to continue to descend toward the level of a communist worker making about a dollar an hour?
Do you want tens of millions of American workers to be unemployed indefinitely as millions of good jobs continue to leave this country?

If not, you better stand up and say something while you still can.



Hahaha.

Down with China!

Chinese bastards coming over here counterfeiting our jobs.

Quick let's invade.

Alexandros
05-24-2012, 05:20 PM
I don't know much about Greek politics, but is it true that there is a time limit that each party has to respect in trying to form a coalition? And that you usually don't have coalition governments.

If I look at how long our government was in the making (we broke every single record, including Iraq, most even twice over) and the problems with the Dutch coalition, it is getting difficult everywhere, and it's definitely not just Greece. Belgium and The Netherlands have a very long tradition of coalition governments, but populism coupled with a financial crisis and its devestating social effects on one hand, and the demands of the neoliberal EU Commission, is making it hard everywhere.

Are you personally affected by the cuts?

There is a time limit to form a coalition, yes. The first three parties of the election each has three days to try and form a government and if that fails then all elected parties meet under the supervision of the President of the Republic (mostly an honorary title, something like the Queen of England) in order to try and reach some form of agreement. All this happened after the elections of May 6th, and all failed, because it was painfully obvious from the very start that nobody wanted to co-operate. Sadly there is no tradition of coalition governments here. The funny thing is, I remember the whole ordeal of Belgium, and I remember thinking "Man, this is ridiculous"! The joke's on Greece now.

As to your second question, I'm one of the lucky ones. I have a job, my salary has not been affected yet (it's not an impressive salary, but it's ok) and I'm not financially exposed in any way, no loans, no mortgages etc., I have my own house (well, my mother's, but you can't be choosy with independence right now), so all in all I'm ok so far. But even for the lucky ones, there is a prevailing feeling that the shit has yet to really hit the fan and that, under present conditions, there is no forseeable future for anyone in the country. Unemployment is at 20-25% (and at 50% for young ages) and we're experiencing a wave of emigration that hasn't been seen since the aftermath of WW2 and the civil war that came right after that. What's worse is that it's not uneducated people and unspecialised workers leaving now, it's the highly educated scientists/technicians/businessmen.

october_midnight
05-25-2012, 12:13 AM
Random I know, but I thought it was one solid step towards Star Trek shit.

New magnetic needle shoots medicine straight to the bloodstream through the skin at the speed of sound; no needle poking required. (http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2012-05/new-jet-injection-device-can-shoot-any-drug-through-skin-no-needle-required?cmpid=tw)

Elke
05-25-2012, 04:46 PM
all failed, because it was painfully obvious from the very start that nobody wanted to co-operate.

Is it that parties think a second election will have a clearer winner, so they won't have to form a coalition? I mean, is there a strategy there?


we're experiencing a wave of emigration that hasn't been seen since the aftermath of WW2 and the civil war that came right after that. What's worse is that it's not uneducated people and unspecialised workers leaving now, it's the highly educated scientists/technicians/businessmen.

It doesn't have to be bad - it depends on whether they send money back home, or not. Temporary migration might actually help Greece forward, but then there has to be a government who can make sure it's actual temporary migration. The longer the crisis last, the bigger the chance it becomes permanent of course.
I had no idea there was such a large migration wave.

I think Greece fell victim to overeagerness to disprove claims of thorough corruption. Because they started following the Comission's orders to a T almost immetiately, making those huge cuts in middle-class and lower income salaries and benefits for those groups, and offering no incentive to the economy at all. Especially because Greece has, as far as I can tell, a pretty thriving 'shadow market' economy, which is destroyed when incomes drop.
This blind capitalism is not working, and it's so frustrating to watch it happen and to be unable to stop it.