Nine Inch Nails - 2014 Tour Discussion/Speculation

[WorzelG]

Trying not to be build my hopes back up again, but that sure looks like a magical NIN screen....
Now I'm thinking, cool light show, screen AND flexible setlist, plus impossible to please expectations!

[witte]

http://m.bilesuserviss.lv/eng/news/nine-inch-nails-to-hold-a-week-long-rehearsal-in-riga/#view=content

[Vrolok1]

[QUOTE=witte;182915]http://m.bilesuserviss.lv/eng/news/nine-inch-nails-to-hold-a-week-long-rehearsal-in-riga/#view=content[/QUOTE

The same US production? Let's see in 4 days!

[WorzelG]

[QUOTE=witte;182915]http://m.bilesuserviss.lv/eng/news/nine-inch-nails-to-hold-a-week-long-rehearsal-in-riga/#view=content[/QUOTE

The same US production? Let's see in 4 days!
I'm not taking that article as gospel truth, particularly as it says '40 band members plus additional employees' unless Trent is really going for it and adding an orchestra to the mix!

[witte]

I think they're talking about 'hired crew members' to help out to create the basic stage set up.
After reading this article, the pic of those eight trucks makes more sense to me now.

[dominik]

to be fair, I'm sure musically they need less rehearsal time each leg, because all the performers on this tour have been doing it for ages now, it's not like they're adding anyone new who has to learn from scratch

you are right, but they are more or less always rehearsing, adding new songs to the setlist, etc etc.. and we don't know if there's a new band member. but reading that article really got me excited. Trent will deliver as always.

[Sarah K]

NIN + Orchestra WOULD be the greatest thing ever, though.

[Krazy]

[QUOTE=Vrolok1;182916]
I'm not taking that article as gospel truth, particularly as it says '40 band members plus additional employees' unless Trent is really going for it and adding an orchestra to the mix!

American "super group", lol. Some of this is probably lost in translation but the article sounds like it was taken directly from the Vevo part 1 Tension tour. Looks like there's definitely better production than previous 2014 shows but to a Tension level probably better to wait and see before getting too excited.

Crosses fingers and hopes for the best, and also hope it includes the NA Summer tour.

[pukkelpop]

Thank you Trent !

* puts 3D glasses on *

[billpulsipher]

He lost money on Tension in america, if he does the same setup in europe where NIN is half as popular, he will go broke lol...there's no orchestra.

[WorzelG]

^^^i don't genuinely think there will be an orchestra, I was being sarcastic because the article said '40 band members'.

[Kyle]

He lost money on Tension in america, if he does the same setup in europe where NIN is half as popular, he will go broke lol...there's no orchestra.
THANKS FOR CLARIFYING THAT BILL BECAUSE I KNOW MOST OF US THOUGHT THERE REALLY WOULD BE AN ORCHESTRA AND THERE WAS NO SARCASM IN THAT AT ALL!!!!

I just realized that the all caps will disappear as soon as I hit post so just pretend the above was in all caps for maximum comedic effect.

Edit - i guess not.....

[simonn]

He lost money on Tension in america, if he does the same setup in europe where NIN is half as popular, he will go broke lol...there's no orchestra.

And you took that obviously tongue in cheek comment seriously because....?

Sheesh

[Kyle]

Trent is seeing all our posts about how we don't really expect an orchestra and thinking "I was planning on not having an orchestra. But they predicted there was going to be no orchestra so someone must have leaked that so now I need an orchestra."

[Kyle]

Or maybe it's just 40 tambourine players.

edit - see this is why I don't block Bill. The lulz.

[witte]

He lost money on Tension in america, if he does the same setup in europe where NIN is half as popular, he will go broke lol...
Wrong! The set up is clearly different and a lot cheaper: he fired 4 members which he doesn't need to pay anymore. -lol-

[simonn]

...and he obviously won't play Revealed In The Thaw or In Motion either. So annoying.

This obviously won't work, cos I mentioned the lack of The Line Begins To Blur a while back, and he played it the very next night for the first time in gawd knows how many years....lightning won't strike twice....

Though Revealed would actually work really well as a segue, in a 'A Warm Place' stylee...:p

[m15a]

http://instagram.com/p/nasL1vD0lY/

Is that a fucking screen? Latvia gets a screen, but South America, Japan and Australia don't?

I know the NIN fanbase isn't much to look at down here, but damn. Latvia.

It's all just logistics. I don't know anything about the fanbase of Latvia versus South America, Japan, or Australia. But the Riga show is getting the setup it is because it's part of a 25-show* tour leg in a relatively small area. The whole Japan/Australia/Mexico/South America tour leg, even if you count it as a single leg, has fewer shows than that and spanned 4 continents. Although even that's kind of irrelevant because the shows in South America were all festival shows. There's a good chance the festival shows in Europe won't get the same setup either.

* 22 shows if you don't count the festival shows.

[m15a]

Trent is seeing all our posts about how we don't really expect an orchestra and thinking "I was planning on not having an orchestra. But they predicted there was going to be no orchestra so someone must have leaked that so now I need an orchestra."

Trent: "They're onto us. Cancel the orchestra!"

EDIT: "Rehire the orchestra!"

[billpulsipher]

NIN + Orchestra WOULD be the greatest thing ever, though.

Metallica already did that..

[TheRealNs1]

well they just added 3 shows to end of august

I'm mildly sad because that means HB won't be the last show on the tour :(

in other news, WHEATLAND CA!? what the fuck.

8/27 – Wheatland, CA @ Sleep Train Amphitheatre (http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C004C9CCFB48BBC)
8/29 – Ridgefield, WA @ Sleep Country Amphitheatre (http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0F004C7AF54281AB)
8/30 – Auburn, WA @ White River Amphitheatre (http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0F004C81AC217A00)

[Kyle]

Metallica already did that..
Metallica never played a show with NIN and an orchestra on stage with them.

[filmfanb]

Well atleast we are getting screens. Explains Robs last tweet.

[Sarah K]

edit - see this is why I don't block Bill. The lulz.

I choked on my food when I read "there's no orchestra".

Haha.

THANKS, BILL WHAT THE FUCK WOULD I DO WITHOUT YOU

[FernandoDante]

I was watching some of the footage of the Chile show and the crowd seemed amazingly into it - did they play any of the LITS south America shows? I guess Mexico is Central America, did they play there?
Yeah, they played 3 gigs in Mexico. The tour was called LITS Over South America, but Mexico is North America, so it shouldn't really count. Either that, or they should change it to "Latin America".

[nooneimportant]

well they just added 3 shows to end of august

I'm mildly sad because that means HB won't be the last show on the tour :(

in other news, WHEATLAND CA!? what the fuck.

8/27 – Wheatland, CA @ Sleep Train Amphitheatre (http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C004C9CCFB48BBC)
8/29 – Ridgefield, WA @ Sleep Country Amphitheatre (http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0F004C7AF54281AB)
8/30 – Auburn, WA @ White River Amphitheatre (http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/0F004C81AC217A00)

I'm now realizing that the Sleep Train Amphitheatre is actually located in Wheatland and not Sacramento.

Wait...

That's near me.

WHAT.

[fillow]

Hey NIN, how about adding some Eastern European dates for a change?
Mother fuck I'm still pissed to no end.

[witte]

I'm afraid they will cancel the complete EU tour if this shit in East Europe won't stop soon. WW III is near...

[icecream]

Aaaah, wanna go to the White Water show. Don't know anyone who wants to go though, all my friends are tired of NIN.

[WorzelG]

Aaaah, wanna go to the White Water show. Don't know anyone who wants to go though, all my friends are tired of NIN.
Go on your own - surely you'd meet fellow loners in the queue

[icecream]

Go on your own - surely you'd meet fellow loners in the queue
I don't have a car, otherwise I would

[ManBurning]

I don't have a car, otherwise I would

Yeah, looked into getting to those 2 Washington venues, they are basically made for people who have cars (not me either).
The White Water one is 2 hours to the nearest hotel, the other one in Ridgefield isn't quite as bad, it's about a 30 min ride.
But once again, no car...

Public transit does not go to either of them, and for some odd reason the show on the 29th offers a free shuttle service from Vancouver (Washington) to the venue before the concert starts, but nothing after the show for some reason.

Still contemplating hitting up at least one of them, the one on the 29th seems more feasible, and it makes more sense financially and geographically for my girlfriend and I to go there over Toronto.

We're thinking of flying to Portland on the 27th spending a couple days there, then taking the greyhound or amrak up to Ridgefield for the show and stay in Vancouver, WA at the hotel that is approx an hour and a half walk from the venue (could spring for a cab after the show), then just greyhound or train back to Canada the day after the show.
This seems to be the most feasible option based on what we worked out last night.

Originally wanted to hit up both, but the white water one is even more complicated for a non car user to get to.

[icecream]

Yeah, looked into getting to those 2 Washington venues, they are basically made for people who have cars (not me either).
The White Water one is 2 hours to the nearest hotel, the other one in Ridgefield isn't quite as bad, it's about a 30 min ride.
But once again, no car...

Public transit does not go to either of them, and for some odd reason the show on the 29th offers a free shuttle service from Vancouver (Washington) to the venue before the concert starts, but nothing after the show for some reason.

Still contemplating hitting up at least one of them, the one on the 29th seems more feasible, and it makes more sense financially and geographically for my girlfriend and I to go there over Toronto.

We're thinking of flying to Portland on the 27th spending a couple days there, then taking the greyhound or amrak up to Ridgefield for the show and stay in Vancouver, WA at the hotel that is approx an hour and a half walk from the venue (could spring for a cab after the show), then just greyhound or train back to Canada the day after the show.
This seems to be the most feasible option based on what we worked out last night.

Originally wanted to hit up both, but the white water one is even more complicated for a non car user to get to.
Yeah, I thought about greyhounds and such but the semester starts a few days later. Can't afford to pay for the travel and hotels, if I did go it would be a drive there and turn back around and come back that night thing.

[ManBurning]

Yeah, I thought about greyhounds and such but the semester starts a few days later. Can't afford to pay for the travel and hotels, if I did go it would be a drive there and turn back around and come back that night thing.

Meh, semester's are over-rated. But that's my opinion, heh.

[slave2thewage]

Looking through the European dates again, I think there's a bunch of shows that won't have the video screen.

[Inkë]

Please tell me that Paris isn't one of these.

[witte]

http://instagram.com/p/nibGtKRAw8/

edit:

Looking through the European dates again, I think there's a bunch of shows that won't have the video screen.
explain...

[WorzelG]

http://instagram.com/p/nibGtKRAw8/

edit:

explain...
Rob Sheridan is there too http://instagram.com/p/nksoO7Nyek/
When he's knackered and things are getting weird you know good stuff will come of it!

(isn't prague a small venue and a few shows are festivals? hence some shows might not be able to have a screen that hangs from the ceiling?)

[icecream]

Back to a 5 piece, or is he part of the opening band?

http://instagram.com/p/nibGtKRAw8/
This guy

[witte]

for optimizing the visuals (in this case creating a shadow effect) you don't need a real bass-player. :)

[F-JD]

I do believe that's the case since the visual design company (or person) is tagged in the picture.

[WorzelG]

I do believe that's the case since the visual design company (or person) is tagged in the picture.
I looked up toss design - they seem to have done some of the Tension visuals - they certainly linked to Rob Sheridan photos in November 2013

[implanted_microchip]

If you look at their website it's the guy that helped with a lot of the lighting for NIN this past year, including the most recent one. For Tension it says he was mostly involved in just the lighting and had little to do with the screens; however he also helped with the Grammy effects, which did have screens, so who knows. Needless to say this guy isn't a new member.

[nooneimportant]

Rob Sheridan is there too http://instagram.com/p/nksoO7Nyek/
When he's knackered and things are getting weird you know good stuff will come of it!

(isn't prague a small venue and a few shows are festivals? hence some shows might not be able to have a screen that hangs from the ceiling?)

They did it in 2007 and 2008, so I don't see why it wouldn't happen in 2014. This seems to look like the previous shows setup just with the classic screen, no real elaborate thing like Tension but I could be wrong.

[gorast]

What's the context for that Instagram picture of a random bassist? I have no idea what the point of that is.

[Krazy]

What's the context for that Instagram picture of a random bassist? I have no idea what the point of that is.

Someone (dameburns- looks unaffiliated with NIN) got a pic of the rehearsals with some of the upcoming visuals apparently. Guy probably isn't even a bassist, just part of the tour crew.

[Harry Seaward]

Someone (dameburns- looks unaffiliated with NIN) got a pic of the rehearsals with some of the upcoming visuals apparently. Guy probably isn't even a bassist, just part of the tour crew.

That would be Trent's mic tech.

EDIT: I was talking about dameburns, not the guy on stage.

[slave2thewage]

http://instagram.com/p/nibGtKRAw8/

edit:

explain...

Logistics, mainly. There are a lot of back-to-back shows where it seems difficult to get the stage setup in time, for example Glasgow-Cardiff. I dunno, they could have brought two screens with them and will alternate.

[MrSelfDestruct]

Logistics, mainly. There are a lot of back-to-back shows where it seems difficult to get the stage setup in time, for example Glasgow-Cardiff. I dunno, they could have brought two screens with them and will alternate.

Well, if you look at the Tension tour, there were also quite a few of back-to-back shows, but they stilled pulled off their crazy production. Take a look: http://tour.nin.com/pastdates

I couldn't imagine Trent constructing an entire leg of a tour where some gigs are just missing entire pieces of the production that were at the gig the night before, as he usually doesn't what some audiences feel left out/ripped off. Also, having to rehearse two versions of the show seems a bit unlikely.

[implanted_microchip]

Well, if you look at the Tension tour, there were also quite a few of back-to-back shows, but they stilled pulled off their crazy production. Take a look: http://tour.nin.com/pastdates

I couldn't imagine Trent constructing an entire leg of a tour where some gigs are just missing entire pieces of the production that were at the gig the night before, as he usually doesn't what some audiences feel left out/ripped off. Also, having to rehearse two versions of the show seems a bit unlikely.

I think it'll come down more to the venues themselves -- remember the Vegas shows for Tension, the UK festivals where they couldn't get set up for various reasons? I think it's safe to say, just going by those events alone, that if they're doing a more visual-heavy tour than the Latin America/QOTSA tours, that they'll have some sort of fall-back setlist/lighting setup, where it'll be a bunch of fog machines, strobes and sets that are re-arranged heavily. For instance that one Vegas date at the Joint was the first show to open with All Time Low, etc.

[Digital_Man]

How much time until Nine Inch Nails goes on?

[sheepdean]

How much time until Nine Inch Nails goes on?
If they go on at 9, 15.5 hours

[Digital_Man]

gosh I can't wait.

[Ryan]

New songs not played live before please, Trent. Please. Just this one time? Pretty please? Maybe? Maybe Just Once?

[Deepvoid]

I guess it's safe to say that NIN will never play in Russia again.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/06/world/europe/russia-swearing-law/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

[nooneimportant]

I guess it's safe to say that NIN will never play in Russian again.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/06/world/europe/russia-swearing-law/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

First of all, that's a terrible law. Second of all, looks like the cancellation of the shows in Russia actually came to be a good thing.

[dvdglss]

hey, 3 more hours or so, right?!

[Bookmark]

The shows we just did in Australia and South America were pretty bare bones – the show we’re building for your neck of the woods has much heavier production than that. It’s not the same as we did last year. The challenge is that this is 100 times more hard work on my end, because I have to keep redesigning and this is now the fourth set of rehearsals. But the goal is that it’s exciting for us on stage and it’s exciting for you in the audience, and you’re not sure what’s coming.”

http://www.theskinny.co.uk/music/features/307816-came_back_vaunted_interview_with_nine_inch_nails_t rent_reznor

Sound quite interesting to me, i wonder how it will really look like.

[WorzelG]

I guess it's safe to say that NIN will never play in Russian again.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/06/world/europe/russia-swearing-law/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Reading the last few lines, i feel so sorry for anyone who's gay in Russia.

I know its shit for people who live in Russia and just want to see NIN but I can't help feeling that touring there would be tantamount to supporting what's going on there

[Sarah K]

Reading the last few lines, i feel so sorry for anyone who's gay in Russia

Fixed...

10

[F-JD]

http://www.theskinny.co.uk/music/features/307816-came_back_vaunted_interview_with_nine_inch_nails_t rent_reznor

Sound quite interesting to me, i wonder how it will really look like.

And four piece band confirmed.

[TheRealNs1]

http://www.theskinny.co.uk/music/features/307816-came_back_vaunted_interview_with_nine_inch_nails_t rent_reznor

Sound quite interesting to me, i wonder how it will really look like.


loved this bit:


“When I started to put this band together for this cycle I thought ‘What if I really stir things up and bring in some people you wouldn’t expect and flip it on its head?’” he reasons. “What I found then was that Robin wasn’t a part of that initial rehearsal. I had really underestimated how valuable what he brings to the table is. It’s excellent musicianship and it’s also spirit. Singing those songs, looking over and not seeing or sensing him there wasn’t right, it was then I realised I’d very much miscalculated this. The second he walked through the door it was like ‘My bad – I fucked up here and it won’t happen again.’”

[filmfanb]

What I took from that is Europe is getting a mix of everything. So, not as stripped as asia and aussie but not as big as the US tour. Which is fine by me. I have watched a lot clips from the last few tours and now going into hibernation. I want this fresh . Bringing a friend who shares the exact same music taste but cant get into NIN. Think his face will be fucked into next year when he sees them live.

[simonn]

Interview has calmed me down about the production - we're not getting Tension, but we're getting somewhat more than the Australian/New Zealand leg - not long now...! Also liked the RF quotes - at least he's honest about fucking that decision up!

[WorzelG]

Also liked the RF quotes - at least he's honest about fucking that decision up!
Yeah that whole thing just seemed like mixing up the line-up just for the sake of it, I don't get how someone who is primarily a guitarist is going to 'reinvent' NIN when they aren't even a guitar band

[witte]

Opener started.
http://instagram.com/p/nqd9dBqjbg/

NIN will start soon: 9 pm there

[scotty79]

Was just lookin at a few pics on twitter

[Kyle]

http://instagram.com/p/nqkICmlvyX/

1,000,000

[Digital_Man]

is that the opener?

[Sarah K]

http://instagram.com/p/nqmpJKJgUY/

http://instagram.com/p/nqnWuOgasf

[WorzelG]

I think I'm going to just have a quick glance at the write-ups then bow out and try and ignore this section till the shows - I just don't think you get a proper idea of a show from grainy instagram pics. (also I'm going to have to give another listen to 1,000,000 as its one I tend to skip past on The Slip - but TR seems quite keen on it these days!)

[Vrolok1]

I don´t mind to see what they are playing, I guess the emotion to see them in less than a month get me excited!, 1,000,000 again? i can deal with that

[ryanmcfly]

THE BECOMING!!!
http://instagram.com/p/nqnBeyg-tn/

edit: Closer, Terrible Lie, Find My Way, Gave Up were played as well.

[pukkelpop]

Ow yes.. Hope that The Becoming will be played every show, with some visuals.

[David Prado]

THE BECOMING!!!
http://instagram.com/p/nqnBeyg-tn/

edit: Closer, Terrible Lie, Find My Way, Gave Up were played as well.

yeeesssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dvdglss]

yeeesssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ryanmcfly]

The Wretched
http://instagram.com/p/nqmGl4kaNM/


edit: Me, I'm Not??? http://instagram.com/p/nqpO4VIY0x/

[Sarah K]

AAHHHHH!!!

I will shit myself if I get to hear The Becoming!

[WorzelG]

This setlist is THE SHIT! (and I mean that in a good way). And the lighting looks really beautiful

[pukkelpop]

Cant open instagram pictures, grrr..

[Digital_Man]

So 1,000,000 was the opener?

[WorzelG]

I would be so happy if they included Something I can Never Have - and could somehow rework While I'm Still Here / Black Noise to fit the new line-up

[ryanmcfly]

The Great Destroyer http://instagram.com/p/nqqcpxl5qO/

edit: I have no idea what song this is http://instagram.com/p/nqrArkIY3t/

[Digital_Man]

So is it safe to say it's the same setlist as South America got?

[KreTafkA]

Yeaaaaaahhhhhhhh visuals !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dvdglss]

Wonder what song this is: http://instagram.com/p/nqot9imcf1/

[Digital_Man]

Wonder what song this is: http://instagram.com/p/nqot9imcf1/

could this be the second unique song for this leg of the tour? It looks cool.

[dvdglss]

So is it safe to say it's the same setlist as South America got?

doesn't sound like it, i mean, "The Becoming" and welcome back "Closer"

[Digital_Man]

doesn't sound like it, i mean, "The Becoming" and welcome back "Closer"

That's true. I don't consider Closer to be anything special as it has been played so often. The Becoming was rehearsed already so I don't consider it too much of a surprise.

I wanna know what song they're playing in that black and white picture!

[Digital_Man]

so are they playing the triple H now?

[Inkë]

omg I never realized these three songs started with an H! I feel stupid.

[implanted_microchip]

EDIT: Sorry, I'm retarded and clicked the wrong instagram link; let me just take this moment to express my whole-hearted pleasure in The Becoming being back.

[Atu]

edit: I have no idea what song this is http://instagram.com/p/nqrArkIY3t/

Please, let it be Eraser, please!!

[Kyle]

1. As far as I know the rehearsal for the becoming was just that warmup show that apparently didn't happen. So we don't know it was rehearsed. Well we do now obviously but we didn't

2. More importantly. This isn't the 2009 guitar version. This is the weird distorted album version. I don't think that's been played since 1995. Very happy. I hope it survives to the Soundgarden tour.

[ryanmcfly]

So for sure we have:
1000000
Terrible Lie
March of the Pigs
The Frail
The Wretched
The Becoming
Closer
Gave Up
Me, I'm Not
The Great Destroyer
Find My Way
Came Back Haunted
Wish
The Hand that Feeds
Head Like a Hole
Hurt

So we're probably missing six songs or so which could be these:
http://instagram.com/p/nqrArkIY3t/ (http://instagram.com/p/nqrArkIY3t/)(I agree with Atu about this one.)
http://instagram.com/p/nqot9imcf1/ (Find My Way)

[ninlive]

I have no idea what song this is http://instagram.com/p/nqrArkIY3t/Please, let it be Eraser, please!!


For the love of god, please.

[fortheloveofgod]

For the love of god, please.

That or Heresy!!!

[implanted_microchip]

For the love of god, please.

Echoing the sound?

(sorry I had to; on that note though, it sure would be cool if they brought that out)

[ryanmcfly]

I bet Survivalism was also played.

edit: found instagram clips of Wish and Came Back Haunted.

[FeelBetterINC]

I bet Survivalism was also played.


I'd really be surprised if 'find my way' was played and not 'copy of a' too.


Set list looks dope so far though. I'm expecting something even bigger for the SG/NIN tour. They NEEEEEED to blow cornell out of the water everynight! :D

[fortheloveofgod]

I'd really be surprised if 'find my way' was played and not 'copy of a' too.


Set list looks dope so far though. I'm expecting something even bigger for the SG/NIN tour. They NEEEEEED to blow cornell out of the water everynight! :D

Looking back at the NIN/JA shows just now. Loved those setlists. One can only hope!

[Digital_Man]

eraser? Oh god please be true. PLEASE

[ryanmcfly]

I'd really be surprised if 'find my way' was played and not 'copy of a' too.


Set list looks dope so far though. I'm expecting something even bigger for the SG/NIN tour. They NEEEEEED to blow cornell out of the water everynight! :D


I hope they bring this production on that tour. Or at least the lights that hang above them.

edit:
http://instagram.com/p/nqxMZHE24V/ Birds?
http://instagram.com/p/nqwJt-E222/ Piggy probably

edit 2: Mystery song with Trent holding the guitar is Find My Way. I'm watching the Lollapalooza brazil show now, and he's playing it on there.

[Digital_Man]

BIRDS? what does it mean????

[FeelBetterINC]

oh and i like 'find my way' as a head phone song, but not really at a concert. Kinda hope they do keep that one in cause that will be bathroom break time for me! If not I may have to wear those new Tony Siragusa manpons just incase.

[FeelBetterINC]

BIRDS? what does it mean????

Homme comes out and they do 'song for the dead' with reznor doing a keyboard remix of it. #fact

[Digital_Man]

Homme comes out and they do 'song for the dead' with reznor doing a keyboard remix of it. #fact

that or the screen lifting up during eraser.

[ryanmcfly]

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/nine-inch-nails/2014/arna-rga-riga-latvia-53c307dd.html
Seems legit

[WorzelG]

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/nine-inch-nails/2014/arna-rga-riga-latvia-53c307dd.html
Seems legit
Fucking hell..Eraser! Glad to see copy of a opening - hope they still play all time low and disappointed sometimes - that is fantastic

[billpulsipher]

aside from Becoming and Eraser, same old, same old....put THTF and Only in the grave...and close with SICNH instead of Hurt

[ryanmcfly]

aside from Becoming and Eraser, same old, same old....put THTF and Only in the grave...and close with SICNH instead of Hurt

Agreed with THTF and Only. I want to see Hurt in the middle of the setlist with Eraser like the downward spiral days. I was really hoping All Time Low was replacing Closer.

[implanted_microchip]

and close with SICNH instead of Hurt

Holy shit Bill why don't you put your energy into building a time machine because this is the statement that totally solidifies my belief that you wish it was still 1994.

[Sarah K]

I'm glad to see a couple of unexpected songs.

Sure, we can wish and hope for a bunch of obscure shit. But at the end of the day, Trent has to cater to the casual fan as well. I'm cool with two or three lesser known songs getting played at a show.

Good shit.

[Kyle]

same old, same old....
Same thing I think every time you post.

[WorzelG]

^^^ something I can never have appeared in the last leg of the tour so I think they will play it, glad I'm seeing three shows on this tour so I have a chance of seeing it and other things

[implanted_microchip]

I'm glad to see a couple of unexpected songs.

Sure, we can wish and hope for a bunch of obscure shit. But at the end of the day, Trent has to cater to the casual fan as well. I'm cool with two or three lesser known songs getting played at a show.

Good shit.

Absolutely; considering Eraser and The Becoming both haven't been played at all whatsoever since 2009, I'd say this is pretty fantastic, and old or not it is technically a comeback for Closer. There are things I could complain about, but nevertheless there's a really nice focus on TDS so it would seem and I can't complain about that.

[ryanmcfly]

I wonder with Eraser and The Becoming getting played if more stuff from the Downward Spiral will start creeping in the setlists... Like Ruiner or Heresy.

[Sarah K]

I will wish and hope every night for the next three months.

[ManBurning]

aside from Becoming and Eraser, same old, same old....put THTF and Only in the grave...and close with SICNH instead of Hurt

While I generally agree with this statement, this is still part of your European shows, and some of these places haven't seen NIN in years. So for them to get a setlist like this, they're probably pretty stoked. To people in North America, yeah, the setlist is a tad "same old, same old" for die hard fans like us who read the setlists night after night and obsess over this stuff to no end. To the average NIN fan in a place like Latvia, this is a great setlist.

With that said, as long as I get to hear "The Becoming" on one of the upcoming North American shows this summer, I don't care what else is on the setlist. It's one of my top 10 favorite songs that I have still yet to experience live yet, so i'm glad it's been taken out of the grave for this this tour.

[FeelBetterINC]

I will wish and hope every night for the next three months.


As do i. I mean I love eraser and the becoming, but realistically would much rather hear heresy and ruiner if I had to choose.

I hope reptile comes into play as well. I've yet to hear that live in person even though it does creep up often.



I'd really be content with 10 songs from TDS and 11-12 "others" for the 20 yr SG/NIN tour.

[FeelBetterINC]

Like said too Trent CANT financially cater to the NINgeeks like ourselves. He has to play the "hits" for the casual fan. I'm going with a few people to the SG/NIN show. 2 of us are geeks, the other two just know a handful of tracks and thats what THEY would like to see. I have no problem with the "hits" as long as theres gems thrown in every show.

I could do without Closer and would much rather have All Time Low with the Closer ending though.

[billpulsipher]

this was the setlist of the first european show of the 2009 summer tour....heresy, TDTWWA, fragile, mr self destruct, becoming....2009 for the win



"Somewhat Damaged (http://www.ninwiki.com/Somewhat_Damaged)"
"Terrible Lie (http://www.ninwiki.com/Terrible_Lie)"
"Heresy (http://www.ninwiki.com/Heresy)"
"March Of The Pigs (http://www.ninwiki.com/March_Of_The_Pigs_%28song%29)"
"Piggy (http://www.ninwiki.com/Piggy)"
"Metal (http://www.ninwiki.com/Metal)"
"The Becoming (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Becoming)"
"Burn (http://www.ninwiki.com/Burn_%28song%29)"
"Gave Up (http://www.ninwiki.com/Gave_Up)"
"The Fragile (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Fragile_%28song%29)"
"The Way Out Is Through (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Way_Out_Is_Through)"
"Wish (http://www.ninwiki.com/Wish_%28song%29)"
"Survivalism (http://www.ninwiki.com/Survivalism_%28song%29)"
"Mr. Self Destruct (http://www.ninwiki.com/Mr._Self_Destruct)"
"The Day The World Went Away (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Day_The_World_Went_Away_%28song%29)"
"Hurt (http://www.ninwiki.com/Hurt_%28song%29)"
"The Hand That Feeds (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Hand_That_Feeds_%28song%29)"
"Head Like A Hole"

[implanted_microchip]

this was the setlist of the first european show of the 2009 summer tour....heresy, TDTWWA, fragile, mr self destruct, becoming....2009 for the win



"Somewhat Damaged (http://www.ninwiki.com/Somewhat_Damaged)"
"Terrible Lie (http://www.ninwiki.com/Terrible_Lie)"
"Heresy (http://www.ninwiki.com/Heresy)"
"March Of The Pigs (http://www.ninwiki.com/March_Of_The_Pigs_%28song%29)"
"Piggy (http://www.ninwiki.com/Piggy)"
"Metal (http://www.ninwiki.com/Metal)"
"The Becoming (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Becoming)"
"Burn (http://www.ninwiki.com/Burn_%28song%29)"
"Gave Up (http://www.ninwiki.com/Gave_Up)"
"The Fragile (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Fragile_%28song%29)"
"The Way Out Is Through (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Way_Out_Is_Through)"
"Wish (http://www.ninwiki.com/Wish_%28song%29)"
"Survivalism (http://www.ninwiki.com/Survivalism_%28song%29)"
"Mr. Self Destruct (http://www.ninwiki.com/Mr._Self_Destruct)"
"The Day The World Went Away (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Day_The_World_Went_Away_%28song%29)"
"Hurt (http://www.ninwiki.com/Hurt_%28song%29)"
"The Hand That Feeds (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Hand_That_Feeds_%28song%29)"
"Head Like A Hole"



Yeah and guess what? That was meant to be the "goodbye" tour on which Trent pulled out all the stops and made it focused on the fans, making it a point to cover tons of loved material that hadn't always found its way into setlists, and doing generally whatever the band felt like. There was no focus on making return trips, on catering to casual fans or winning anyone over for future tours; that was it as far as anyone knew at the time.

Currently we're at a point where Trent literally just said in an interview that he's more than ready to go write another NIN album and is thoroughly enjoying touring, so it kind of makes sense that this is more of a "normal" touring cycle.

If you want to compare this to other tours, pick pretty much anything from 2005-2008, by all means, but seriously, going for the farewell tour is ridiculous. Everyone knew and everyone knows that those were special, unique things meant for something very different. That was the tour where Trent openly said at one festival (I think it was the Hurricane Festival), "We're not playing any of the hits, so if that's what you want to see, fuck off, we're the wrong band."

There's nothing wrong with discussion about sets but seriously all you do is complain and find new angles to attack from anytime anyone criticises something you've said before.

EDIT: FeelBetterINC. I'd really love to see All Time Low do the Closer tease and then lead straight into Closer, could be really awesome, especially if they were to do the original version of it without TOT breakdown (although if it became a 3-part song mash-up, that would be pretty cool as well).

[ZootZap]

Yes, on the Wave Goodbye tour 2009 they played very various setlists in Europe.
I even got to hear -Last- That was really an unexpected surprise!!
As far as I remember from the last WG-European tour, -The Becoming- was played very often. So, that's nothing new... but I read somewhere that it's another arrangement this time.
Closer wasn't played on WG. So, I'm fine with it on the setlist.
I would love to hear more different Hestitation Mark songs. As I attended just one festival show last summer and so they are still very fresh to my ears!

[ManBurning]

Yeah, all this tour is doing is extending to the markets that never got a chance to see the festival 2013 or Tension shows. I wouldn't expect this tour to be drastically different from what we've seen so far, with the exception of a few rare gems thrown in to keep fans from other continents wishing they had played that song at their show (The Great Destroyer, Me I'm Not, The Becoming, Eraser).

Take the [With_Teeth] tour for example in 2005-2006. They literally hit every city in the world and the setlist was almost the most static setlist I had ever seen a NIN setlist being. Wasn't til the summer Amphitheatre tour in 2006 when they finally changed up the songs drastically. Besides, I bet there are a ton of fans in Japan/Australia/Europe that are upset they never got a full blown Hesitation Marks concert like the US did. For a brand new album that's not even a year old yet, he certainly is ignoring playing most of the new songs live. There are all these songs that were played on Tension and then dropped off the face of the planet for whatever reason.

If he plays this exact set again for the NIN/Soundgraden US tour, then i'd be concerned, but I think he knows better than to do that. He said himself he wants to reinvent every leg of the tour, to me, this is the same leg as the February/March shows from earlier this year.

[Krazy]

I'm pretty sure a lot of the fans (especially European) would go with the static set-list for higher production. You know why? Because over 99% of them are only going to one show and haven't seen every song 40+ times.

JFC.

[implanted_microchip]

There are all these songs that were played on Tension and then dropped off the face of the planet for whatever reason.

I think part of it is that a lot of it became really connected to the sound of the Tension lineup -- Lisa and Charlotte on While I'm Still Here/Black Noise really made that song, Running requires a lot of different sounds/instruments, and in general the Tension performances of HM songs had every member doing something, with there having been 6 main players and the 2 backing singers. It's probably just a matter of a lot of the HM songs not sounding as great with only 4 members, especially when most of them are fixed/attached to specific instruments (while there's been a lot of instrument-swapping recently, it hits a point where some songs simply need constant drumming, guitar, bass, etc.) I remember a lot of people complaining that some of the HM songs sounded far "flatter" at the Tokyo dates -- and most of those were then quickly dropped (Various Methods . . . is what's coming to my mind immediately here).

[Krazy]

I think ManBurning touched on it already- it's similar to what he did for the '06 summer tour, even if it's markets HM hasn't been played in. New tour usually equals to promoting the new album. HM just isn't new anymore, just like WT in '06. Trent really didn't do a US tour for YZ either, just a handful of tunes during LITS.

[ManBurning]

I'm pretty sure a lot of the fans (especially European) would go with the static set-list for higher production. You know why? Because over 99% of them are only going to one show and haven't seen every song 40+ times.

JFC.

This is the most truthful statement here. All of us, we are not the average fan that Trent is catering the setlist to, we are a VERY small majority of his fanbase.
Most of us try and hit up 2,3,4 even 10 shows per tour if our budget allows, your average fan will not.

Hell, NIN came to my city last your on Tension and I STILL travelled for 3 other shows. I even said to myself "Next time NIN announces a show in Vancouver, that's the ONLY show i'm doing. I need to stop this traveling for NIN business ESPECIALLY if they come straight to me" Next thing you know... NIN announce they are gonna be at the Pemberton Festival (which is basically Vancouver, just a small drive out of city limits), What do I do? Buy tickets for Portland and make travel plans... lol. I just can't do it. I can't settle for just 1 show per tour, it's just too hard.

But I am not your average joe fan, most people here wouldn't even shell out the $300-400 to go see them 2 hrs away at the Pemberton festival, let alone travel to see a show.

So all of us that say "Ah, c'mon... Closer? Only? THTF? Ending with Hurt? AGAIN!?!? C'mon change it up!" We are a VERY small percentage of his fan base and for every 1 of us saying these songs are run into the ground, there are 10 other "average fans" on their way to a NIN show right now saying "I hope he plays The hand that Feeds and Hurt" and if they don't get to hear those songs... they'll be upset.

[TheRealNs1]

So all of us that say "Ah, c'mon... Closer? Only? THTF? Ending with Hurt? AGAIN!?!? C'mon change it up!" We are a VERY small percentage of his fan base and for every 1 of us saying these songs are run into the ground, there are 10 other "average fans" on their way to a NIN show right now saying "I hope he plays The hand that Feeds and Hurt" and if they don't get to hear those songs... they'll be upset.

yep. read many south american reviews that said 'Y NO CLOSER'

[Krazy]

Yup. The only band that I'm a major fan of and will go out of my way to see- and have a legitimate reason to piss and moan about their setlist is Tool.

We NIN fans actually have it pretty damn good. And TR cares enough about the visual production to eat some of that earned money, which I'd say is well spent and probably has A LOT of average fans coming back for more shows or will hit the next tour because they know it'll be worth it.

[MechaFM]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEfcrUsD0PI

Only found this footage so far. Looks like Robin's changed up his hair style a bit.

[FeelBetterINC]

So all of us that say "Ah, c'mon... Closer? Only? THTF? Ending with Hurt? AGAIN!?!? C'mon change it up!" We are a VERY small percentage of his fan base and for every 1 of us saying these songs are run into the ground, there are 10 other "average fans" on their way to a NIN show right now saying "I hope he plays The hand that Feeds and Hurt" and if they don't get to hear those songs... they'll be upset.

this x1000 Bands tour for $$. The most $$ comes from the AVERAGE fan, not the fanboy. I think by now when Trent says "we're changing the setlist to keep it fresh" it really just means "we're adding 3 songs we haven't played in awhile and everything else is the same."

[Kyle]

No. The average fan is Bill.

[Krazy]

I'm bored, out of the country in a hotel, so decided to Google image "the average fan".

WTF is up with that second picture???? NSFW- you've been warned.

[ZootZap]

We NIN fans actually have it pretty damn good. And TR cares enough about the visual production to eat some of that earned money, which I'd say is well spent and probably has A LOT of average fans coming back for more shows or will hit the next tour because they know it'll be worth it.

Yeah, after the Rock'n Heim gig some "newbies" were very impressed about the production of the show and it seemed it had such an impact on them that they wanted to see and hear more from NIN.

[Joy Prevention Hotline]

Looks like Robin's changed up his hair style a bit.
A bit?

JESUS CHRIST ALLESANDRO STOLE HIS HAIR.

[Atu]

Oh yes, Eraser after Great Destroyer alone makes every setlist great.

Lacks more Fragile songs though...

[MechaFM]

I wonder what Illan would like with a shaved head.

[F-JD]

A bit?

JESUS CHRIST ALLESANDRO STOLE HIS HAIR.

So that's what Trent meant with 'mixing things up?' :D

[Ryan]

Happy to see "The Becoming" finally come back, as that was supposedly rehearsed during that "not-sure-if-it-happened" rehearsal show in LA, along with "Please".

Hopefully Please will be in one of the next shows' set lists.

Also, some edits on setlist.fm -

>>





Pinion / The Eater of Dreams


Copy of A (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Copy+of+A)


1,000,000 (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=1,000,000)


Terrible Lie (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Terrible+Lie)


March of the Pigs (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=March+of+the+Pigs)


Piggy (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Piggy)


The Frail (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=The+Frail)


The Wretched (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=The+Wretched)


The Becoming (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=The+Becoming)


Gave Up (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Gave+Up)


Closer (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Closer)


Find My Way (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Find+My+Way)


Me, I'm Not (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Me,+I%27m+Not)


Came Back Haunted (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Came+Back+Haunted)


The Great Destroyer (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=The+Great+Destroyer)


Eraser (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Eraser)


Wish (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Wish)


Burn (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Burn)


The Hand That Feeds (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=The+Hand+That+Feeds)


Head Like a Hole (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Head+Like+a+Hole)


Encore:
Hurt (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?song=Hurt)




Note: "Only" was on the setlist after "Burn" but wasn't played.

[Kyle]

I'm bored, out of the country in a hotel, so decided to Google image "the average fan".

WTF is up with that second picture???? NSFW- you've been warned.
i think it's funnier to not know the context behind it.

[Krazy]

Looks like Robin's changed up his hair style a bit.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-T5roaXOQN4Y/Um594eTBxLI/AAAAAAABG7g/TjZ9NSs8orY/s400/waste.png

[filmfanb]

looks like a greatest hits tour again. i thought after reading etc... he might change it up but i am happy either way.
i need somewhat damaged though. i need it in my face, hard and loud.

[Joy Prevention Hotline]

Note: "Only" was on the setlist after "Burn" but wasn't played.
Yay!

plusafewmorecharactersthatdontmatterverymuch

[Kyle]

looks like a greatest hits tour again. i thought after reading etc... he might change it up but i am happy either way.
i need somewhat damaged though. i need it in my face, hard and loud.
That's what she said.

[Kyle]

On a more serious note though, it ends with the three H's which it always has even during WG. Other than that, how is it a greatest hits setlist? Because Closer?

[Ryan]

Wondering if "Closer" had "The Only Time" breakdown or not?

And how long has it been since "Closer" was played?

[jessamineny]

Wondering if "Closer" had "The Only Time" breakdown or not?

And how long has it been since "Closer" was played?

Made in America Fest, 9/1/13

[filmfanb]

On a more serious note though, it ends with the three H's which it always has even during WG. Other than that, how is it a greatest hits setlist? Because Closer?

if i was to throw out a gh album it would be probably along the lines of that set list. it spreads across most albums quite nicely.

[Joy Prevention Hotline]

if i was to throw out a gh album it would be probably along the lines of that set list. it spreads across most albums quite nicely.
Not what you'd expect for YZ though.

[filmfanb]

Not what you'd expect for YZ though.
maybe not. its my personal fave from yz so i am being a bit selfish with that view tbh

[Ryan]

Made in America Fest, 9/1/13

Thank you. I can do my audit on ninwiki.

[Swykk]

I keep holding on to the fading hope that AATCHB will be played. Only a fool's hope...

[Krazy]

Actually would've liked to see Only- it always has the coolest visuals and I actually dig the song. ::shrugs::

[Kyle]

if i was to throw out a gh album it would be probably along the lines of that set list. it spreads across most albums quite nicely.
Greatest hits albums are not made up of fan favorites. They're singles. Greatest hits compilations are made for casual fans. Give a casual fan a playlist of those songs and they won't recognize anything except Closer until the end.

[slave2thewage]

Meh, to be honest. I want some more Hesitation Marks at my shows, tbh.

[Digital Twilight]

Meh, to be honest. I want some more Hesitation Marks at my shows, tbh.

Yep me too but I'm glad Copy of A is still around. All Time Low and Disappointed would be great.

[Sarah K]

I still really, really, really want All Time Low to be played live.

[dzaver]

Meh, to be honest. I want some more Hesitation Marks at my shows, tbh.

Its a shitty playlist... i want to see more Hesitation Marks songs too.

[SarahConnor]

Maybe time for a new 'favorite band,' y'all.

[Kyle]

Maybe time for a new 'favorite band,' y'all.
I'm only here for Bill.

[Krazy]

Maybe time for a new 'favorite band,' y'all.

Hop on the Imagine Dragoons bandwagon- I'm sure they're looking for a few more good soldiers.

[Sarah K]

I'm only here for Bill.


He was right. There is no orchestra.

[Kyle]

He was right. There is no orchestra.
I think they're saving the orchestra for the Soundgarden tour.

[FernandoDante]

2:30 - might as well call it the "Sorry, Southern Hemisphere!" Tour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK-lEHdEcf0

[K-Rice]

Holy crap those visuals during Closer were awesome. And Great Destroyer.

[Ryan]

2:30 - might as well call it the "Sorry, Southern Hemisphere!" Tour

God damn it Trent.

[Ryan]

2:30 - might as well call it the "Sorry, Southern Hemisphere!" Tour

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK-lEHdEcf0



Holy wow at the visuals for Eraser (2:33 mark).

[nooneimportant]

Eraser is probably one of the best live NIN songs ever. The performance on the BYIT DVD is just amazing and I'm glad to see they're doing it just as good this time around.

[Papagolash]

Has NIN ever played Latvia before? And if so, how long ago? If they've never been there before then maybe that's why they busted out Closer.

[Sarah K]

Nah. He said in an interview not long ago that it would be returning. Although, with the way he said it, I expected it to be reworked.

[Krazy]

Just so my eyeballs aren't failing me: they used one "flat" screen (not convex or concave), correct?

Also anyone know how the turn out for this show was? I'm not the one always buying tickets but it irritates me when a NIN show doesn't sell great.

[Krazy]

Has NIN ever played Latvia before? And if so, how long ago? If they've never been there before then maybe that's why they busted out Closer.

According to NIN tour history it's the first time playing Latvia or Riga. Not up to date on European origins so th names may be different by now. :/

Also EDIT: probably playing Closer because it's one of the biggest hits. Wouldn't doubt to for it to be a staple during the Euro tour.

[icecream]

Anyone know now if The Only Time Breakdown was played during Closer?

[m33k]

Yep.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3IGKb432j0

[Tumnayar]

So this coming up Summer amphitheater tour, we're going to get the special songs he has been saving--

closer to god
happiness in slavery
aatchb
non-entity
home
deep
i do not want this (with real spoken parts)
2014'd ringfinger
2014'd the only time
2014'd kinda i want to
zero-sum

[Ryan]

So this coming up Summer amphitheater tour, we're going to get the special songs he has been saving--

closer to god
happiness in slavery
aatchb
non-entity
home
deep
i do not want this (with real spoken parts)
2014'd ringfinger
2014'd the only time
2014'd kinda i want to
zero-sum

Demon Seed too plz.

[m15a]

So this coming up Summer amphitheater tour, we're going to get the special songs he has been saving--

There's a good chance there'll be several additional songs in Europe, too. (Not going to bet on the ones listed though . . .)

[martin_b]

Nice setlist. My appetite for Berlin and Katowice increased even more (to something around 2634 units in 100-based NIN-Concert-Appetite-Unit scheme).

[simonn]

I just want a giant NIN on the screen between HLAH and Hurt, and the experience will be complete...:p

I'm assuming they'll be an a and b setlist like there has been over the last few months featuring on an alternate night basis - so hoping for Somewhat Damaged, Reptile, The Big Come Down, All Time Low, Sanctified and Last to come in for (probably) Eraser, Frail/Wretched, Becoming, Gave Up and Burn on those occasions.

[David Prado]

I think the setlist is too short for a tour not based on festivals o shared tour....expecting about 24-26 songs, a two hours show at least.
But hey...we've got eraser and the becoming back.....

[WorzelG]

A pic from NIN - someone said looks like they're playing Mordor. (I use webstagram because instagram links just don't display on an iPad)
http://web.stagram.com/p/714622547925051974_1875937

[Corona Radiata]

I just want a giant NIN on the screen between HLAH and Hurt, and the experience will be complete...:p


It's there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCe6aWWRghU

The Becoming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3A3tvG4I6I

[howdidislipinto]

Holy shit, The Becoming got WAY BETTER. I liked the Still hybrid they were playing in '09, but... oh man. That was good. I'm glad the outro came back too!

[Fist Fuck]

Already saw 16 out of 20 songs last year in Milan. I hope this setlist is gonna change up more than a bit, I wanna see more songs from Hesitation Marks live, and not just the same setlist again.

[icklekitty]

I wonder with Eraser and The Becoming getting played if more stuff from the Downward Spiral will start creeping in the setlists... Like Ruiner or Heresy.

*yawn* Just Like 2007 Imagined

[slave2thewage]

might as well call it the "Sorry, Southern Hemisphere!" Tour

I love how pressed you are.

[icecream]

Wish the electronic ending to Closer will come back. Cool to see The Becoming and Eraser! It would be funny if Trent pulls out every song from the TDS this tour to make everyone here think the NIN/SG tour will be the whole album front to back only to not play any songs from that era the whole tour.

[fillow]

http://riga2014.org/resources/web/gallery/nine-inch-nails/960x435/Nine%20Inch%20Nails%20foto%20Kaspars%20Garda%2002. jpg

Peter Murphy? Oh wai-

[Inkë]

http://i.imgur.com/ugVrAFe.jpg
Oh maaaaaaaaaan...

[Sarah K]

Wait... WHAT? Hahaha.

[FeelBetterINC]

Something I always wonder... Anyone know why Trent doesn't play 'We're in this together' often?? I've only found a few recordings of it and it was all way after the Fragile in 07. I read it has something to do with vocal strain but has he ever given a reason?

[Digital_Man]

It's there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCe6aWWRghU

The Becoming

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3A3tvG4I6I

oh man the end of the becoming is so fucking awesome.

[LOVEANDZOMBIES]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t62EOvaCD2s

[Sarah K]

Something I always wonder... Anyone know why Trent doesn't play 'We're in this together' often?? I've only found a few recordings of it and it was all way after the Fragile in 07. I read it has something to do with vocal strain but has he ever given a reason?


Uhhh... vocal strain sounds like a pretty excellent reason to me.

[FeelBetterINC]

Uhhh... vocal strain sounds like a pretty excellent reason to me.


Yeah I kinda figured it to be true. I've listened to the performances of it and he def cracks several times during the song. It sounded awesome in LA though. Its just one of my all time favs and would be an "icning on the cake" song for me at a show.

[BRoswell]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t62EOvaCD2s

I like that they've brought back the cloud screen. I thought it was a great way to have visuals without having the band completely covered by a giant screen.

[dlb]

Glad they are bringing back the screen and I love the fact that I'll get to see a cool and proper NIN show. On the other hand I'm a bit bummed that the setlist is quite generic... and good god do I hate 1,000,000... The becoming on the other hand? fuck yes! I would have hoped for alittle bit more from HM but let's see how things will shape up to be! :)

[Kyle]

Yeah I kinda figured it to be true. I've listened to the performances of it and he def cracks several times during the song. It sounded awesome in LA though. Its just one of my all time favs and would be an "icning on the cake" song for me at a show.
It's not at all a coincidence that Last and WITT both first appeared the first time they did a tour without a static setlist. And WITT never returned and Last returned for another completely different setlist every day tour.

[ninlive]

Something I always wonder... Anyone know why Trent doesn't play 'We're in this together' often?? I've only found a few recordings of it and it was all way after the Fragile in 07. I read it has something to do with vocal strain but has he ever given a reason?

Yes, he has stated it's hard on his voice. Hence the reason when he had a fan sing the song's chorus during a soundcheck in 2007 in Australia.

PS - Eraser kicks so much fucking ass live.

[ryanmcfly]

*yawn* Just Like 2007 Imagined
I was 13 around that time and live in Texas, so I'm still keeping my fingers crossed.

[TheBang]

Anyone notice the new Eraser film is a reimagining of the 1994-1995 Further Down the Spiral Eraser film? Both have desert landscapes in the beginning and bees and worms at the end. Much like the current (since last year) Hurt film is also in many ways similar (and identical) to the 1994-1995 Hurt film.

[SM Rollinger]

That intro is sick, and holy crap The Becoming and Eraser??? Those two songs are worth the price of admission alone.

The energy is right, time is now, play Happiness in Slavery!!! (plz)

(and they might as well bring back Ruiner and IDNWT while their at it too)

[implanted_microchip]

If Ruiner comes back and stays I'm set. It's arguably my favorite "loud" NIN song, definitely in my top 5 overall favorites. They could play a Maybe Just Once/Hurt/Collector medley for the rest of the show if I see Ruiner.

[slave2thewage]

I love that pic of Robin at the top of the page. It's like he's worried about taxes or something.

[Ryan]

That intro is sick, and holy crap The Becoming and Eraser??? Those two songs are worth the price of admission alone.

The energy is right, time is now, play Happiness in Slavery!!! (plz)

(and they might as well bring back Ruiner and IDNWT while their at it too)

Indeed. And WITT.

[Papagolash]

I like that Robin went for his old school 94-95 look

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v52/misshazy/robin%20finck/nin1995.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v52/misshazy/robin%20finck/closure3.png

[Kyle]

I love that pic of Robin at the top of the page. It's like he's worried about taxes or something.
Maybe he is. With all the touring he forgot to pay them and just noticed now on stage.

[Vrolok1]

I love that pic of Robin at the top of the page. It's like he's worried about taxes or something.

or maybe thinking about his new haircut on the tour With Soundgarden.

[Kyle]

BMWAG needs to be brought back into setlists but with the lyrics changed to "and I've got these big guns" with him flexing while singing the line.

[nooneimportant]

BMWAG needs to be brought back into setlists but with the lyrics changed to "and I've got these big guns" with him flexing while singing the line.

Only if he wears a tanktop... and a hard hat.

[Krazy]

Only if he wears a tanktop... and a hard hat.

And we'll need a gargantuan disco ball high atop the middle of the stage.

[ZootZap]

Is there any listing about song's abbreviation (don't know if this is the right word)?
I think I know all NIN songs by name but often I have problems to recognise the abbreviations.

EDIT: Maybe this should be asked in the question thread...

[jmtd]

Hoping for a fragile cut or two to be thrown in. "The fragile" always kicks arse. "Please" would be nice.

[Emil Dorbell]

http://riga2014.org/resources/web/gallery/nine-inch-nails/960x435/Nine%20Inch%20Nails%20foto%20Kaspars%20Garda%2002. jpg

Peter Murphy? Oh wai-

Where are those photos from? I'd like a high res version as my wallpaper.

[dvdglss]

Hoping for a fragile cut or two to be thrown in. "The fragile" always kicks arse. "Please" would be nice.
They just randomly go into Where is Everybody? How fucking awesome would that be?!!!

[jessamineny]

Where are those photos from? I'd like a high res version as my wallpaper.

http://riga2014.org/lat/gallery/foto/1193-nine-inch-nails-riga-atklaj-eiropas-turneju

[GibbonBlack]

Robin looks like Karl Pilkington in Derek

http://www.channel4.com/media/images/CorporatePortal/Benji/2013/Comedy%20and%20Ent/Derek%20Press%20Pack/Dougie-setups-083_A2.jpg (http://www.channel4.com/media/images/CorporatePortal/Benji/2013/Comedy%20and%20Ent/Derek%20Press%20Pack/Dougie-setups-083_A2.jpg)

[Krazy]

If the skullet comes back into fashion (actually, I don't think it ever was in fashion...), we all know who to thank.

[AgentofChaos]

I so adore how Robin consistently finds new ways to be awesome.

[martin_b]

http://i.imgur.com/ugVrAFe.jpg
Oh maaaaaaaaaan...

So now we have a confirmation why NIN used Mordor landscapes while they perfomred "Eraser". It's because of "Robin-Sauron-Finck".

[WorzelG]

^^^he REALLY looks like Hugo Weaving as Elrond there, a good / evil mash-up

[LOVEANDZOMBIES]

Full Video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acGb7wgm8Xw

Full Show:


https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLvhGPceASMAsNL06eumqt7rjC4a5TDkru

[sick among the pure]

How can a link to the photo set be posted, but NOBODY BRINGS THIS UP?!
http://oi57.tinypic.com/jjpb42.jpg

[skullboy0]

How can a link to the photo set be posted, but NOBODY BRINGS THIS UP?!

Or this one:

http://riga2014.org/resources/web/gallery/nine-inch-nails/960x470/Nine%20Inch%20Nails%20foto%20Kaspars%20Garda%2001. jpg

BRAAAAAAAAAAINS

Can't decide if he looks like a Zombie or FrankenTrent.

[slave2thewage]

They should be just on stage in Helsinki now.

[fortheloveofgod]

...and open with Somewhat Damaged. Calling it!

[scotty79]

They got sanctified anyway, there's a few vids on Instagram, don't know how and even if you can link to them through the app

[Vrolok1]

does anyone knows whats happening in Helsinki right now?

[Tumnayar]

happiness in helsinki i presume

[fortheloveofgod]

I believe it is over from what I can tell from instagram

-Sanctified
-Head Like a Hole
-Copy of A
-Hurt
-Hand covered bruise!!!
-Great Destroyer
-Closer
-Came Back Haunted

[[Shep]]

I believe it is over from what I can tell from instagram

-Santified
-Head Like a Hole
-Copy of A
-Hurt
-Hand covered bruise!!!
-Great Destroyer

They got Hurt?!

[Sarah K]

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/nine-inch-nails/2014/hartwall-areena-helsinki-finland-7bc37e04.html

[pukkelpop]

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/nine-inch-nails/2014/hartwall-areena-helsinki-finland-7bc37e04.html
2nd time The Becoming! Save it for Antwerp please...:-))

Reptile, BYIT, The Great Destroyer... This is my kinda setlist. Would be perfect if there was a genius Fragile song in it like JLYI or The Great Below.

[WorzelG]

Like the addition of Somewhat Damaged, Beside you in Time, Reptile ( wonder if they will swap about eraser and beside you in time)

[WorzelG]

2nd time The Becoming! Save it for Antwerp please...:-))

Reptile, BYIT, The Great Destroyer... This is my kinda setlist. Would be perfect if there was a genius Fragile song in it like JLYI or The Great Below.
I've just been listening to the JLYI version with Mike Garson - goosebumps.

[Sarah K]

I dig that BYIT is in there!

[WorzelG]

I hope they add more than two songs off HM when they get to the UK though

[Vrolok1]

and Eraser? hopefully they'll play in Amsterdam or Paris, please......

[F-JD]

Lot of different songs in two nights already, that is exciting for the rest of tour. More than 19 songs (+The Frail/Hand Covers Bruise) in a set would be nice though.

[simonn]

I hope they add more than two songs off HM when they get to the UK though

I thought you were keeping away from spoilers until you'd seen them in Blighty!

Impossible, I know!

[WorzelG]

I thought you were keeping away from spoilers until you'd seen them in Blighty!

Impossible, I know!
I'm so rubbish, I'm sat with my iPad watching Person of Interest looking at this stuff.

[konkelo]

Fucking awesome show in Helsinki!! I didn't check the setlist from Riga before the gig so I didn't know what they are going to play. The return of Closer surprised me. The NIN.com presale thing worked great and I got to the front row easily. Also it was surprising that they didn't play more than two songs from Hesitation Marks. Anyway, totally worth 7 years of wait!

[slave2thewage]

It's very likely that I'll hear BYIT at my shows.

Excuse me while I hyperventilate in the corner.

[Ryan]

How can a link to the photo set be posted, but NOBODY BRINGS THIS UP?!
http://oi57.tinypic.com/jjpb42.jpg


I think sheepdean posted that pic earlier. Or in the tour journal thread for it.

[sheepdean]

T'weren't I sir

[Ryan]

Someone did.

Ok, bets are on. Next show: what song we haven't heard in ages will appear?

I really want it to be "Please".

[Kyle]

Someone did.

Ok, bets are on. Next show: what song we haven't heard in ages will appear?

I really want it to be "Please".

Maybe Just Once

[sick among the pure]

Maybe Just Once

All joking aside, I actually would love Maybe Just Once live...