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october_midnight
07-24-2015, 01:40 PM
All good, no need to apologize!
I'm still not sure what he really said that started all of this... But from what I've been reading, it's definitely bad.
I think it is all a work so Hogan can actually win his Gawker lawsuit.
(just making a joke. The comments I read that Hogan said are deplorable.)
henryeatscereal
07-24-2015, 04:41 PM
bunch of hypocrites that's what they are:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n1Q8xBUKDE&feature=youtu.be
Not to defend Hogan (god knows i don't care for him...), but i don't think that was the sole reason, probably it was fastest excuse they could find and Hogan was already in hot water, in another hand hear this audio, it's an old interview and he says the "N" word a bunch of times, so why punish him now? i don't think Though Enough was the sole reason, there was something going on...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f20Z-iGVoP0&app=desktop
There was rumor that he said some racist things about The Rock. I can't confirm it but that is out there. And The Rock is way more important to WWE than Hogan.
Vince gets a pass because he's the chairman of the company... that 2012 interview with hogan is whatever. He says the word, but he's not blatantly hateful as the transcript shows him to be. My issue with this. Is this still "alleged " and WWE jumped the gun? Or, has this audio been proven legit? I don't have a hard time believing it. But, I question if the "alleged audio" is legit. If it is, then yeah, WWE did the right thing.
Supposedly Hogan resigned. For whatever that's worth.
Hogan and his lawyer say that. WWE says otherwise. I'm more obligated to go with WWE on this one. Hogan's known to be a habitual bullshitter.
thevoid99
07-24-2015, 08:32 PM
Now I hear they're removing all things Hogan in the WWE as if... he never existed.
Yeah, he got the Benoit treatment.
thevoid99
07-24-2015, 10:05 PM
Damn... I saw a pic of Andre getting slammed by an invisible guy somewhere. I can't find it. Years ago, Warrior said karma is coming for Hogan.... shit. I didn't expect this.
_T_B_W_
07-24-2015, 10:50 PM
Damn... I saw a pic of Andre getting slammed by an invisible guy somewhere. I can't find it. Years ago, Warrior said karma is coming for Hogan.... shit. I didn't expect this.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKq-X17UEAAkpAN.jpg
Swykk
07-25-2015, 10:53 AM
Guys, Hogan has always been a garbage person. He never could wrestle and all his promos were the same, which is what initially made me dislike him. Then I got older and "smart" as they say, and found he'd politicked guys that were better than him to stay on top (a pattern Triple H later adopted after fucking his way to the top) and I REALLY hated him. Then, after his shitty son crippled that kid and got sent to prison, audio got released of that leathery bag of shit telling Nick that "after this is behind you, maybe we can get a reality show out of it." And then, the world should've hated him. To discover that he's racist? I'm not surprised.
I get it, it totally sucks when childhood heroes turn out to be giant turds (I liked Darryl Strawberry!) but the evidence is there and has been there for a very long time.
henryeatscereal
07-25-2015, 12:14 PM
(As always) the only good thing that came out of this, are the memes:
http://s11.postimg.org/f1lsp1ytv/11750707_1092266430784346_8113315574021666240_n.jp g
http://s28.postimg.org/npm2atptp/1517510_1591496977768674_185889037874198458_n.jpg
http://s15.postimg.org/jhuolxmcr/11745457_1011562885563171_5939818514871677793_n.jp g
thevoid99
07-25-2015, 05:21 PM
Honestly, these memes are hilarious. I remember that thing he said with his son about getting a reality TV deal. That pissed me off. I stopped becoming a fan of Hogan after that. His son is a piece of shit too and Scott Steiner is right. Brooke is a no-talent bitch. I heard Hogan spent $2-3 million on her music career which went nowhere. So money can't buy everything.
Space Suicide
07-26-2015, 06:35 PM
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Best so far.
Guess i've got a few...
https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11057348_895434563865579_6294219348187017517_n.jpg ?oh=43a1610dc43f408405d1d9a0d89cc594&oe=561423E0
https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-9/11755163_895440237198345_1776480800349258513_n.jpg ?oh=bf497a52d3f1a7f4df34514604874dc1&oe=564B2293
https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/11201176_10153496267394904_4207603795037792099_n.j pg?oh=4d95f0ddc161c743b61486e80dc2d847&oe=561158F3
skullboy0
07-27-2015, 10:37 AM
http://i315.photobucket.com/albums/ll480/skullboy0/AD05F560-DB93-499B-941C-60B3BC1B22B3.jpg
henryeatscereal
07-27-2015, 11:18 AM
^ROFL, and the sad thing it's that seems possible...
thevoid99
07-27-2015, 04:28 PM
I read on Twitter that Hogan might be Donald Trump's new Secretary of State.
Tums206_BFY
07-27-2015, 05:43 PM
Looks like the rumors of SummerSlam being 4 Hours long were true
Looks like the rumors of SummerSlam being 4 Hours long were true
I'm cool with Summerslam being 4 hours if more talent makes it on the card. It was crazy to me that Ambrose, Cesaro, and Rusev were left off of Battleground despite being featured prominently on Raw the weeks before the show.
I'm fine with it. Especially with how the card is shaping up. No reason for rushed matches. Extremely iffy on Cena/Rollins. Especially when he's still US champion. They put him there to elevate the title (which he has), not to just abandon it like it's nothing. Should've lost it first before entering that storyline.
thevoid99
07-27-2015, 10:02 PM
Looks like the rumors of SummerSlam being 4 Hours long were true
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/72/72d7799fa6b9f93a92b6af64268bf10107b2850e4738080477 7bb709b3d7f649.jpg
I'm absolutely fine with it. Especially considering the possible card we're getting, and the Raw we're getting tonight. I say bring it on.
My guess on the card:
Cena/Rollins
Cesaro/Owens
Ziggler and Lana/Rusev and Summer
Possible match with Stephen Amell/Stardust
Taker/Lesnar
Divas match
And it looks like Cena might have broken his nose. That was a tough knee he took. Took it like a champ though.
Edit: oh, and they're teasing something with Ambrose/Big Show. Last Man Standing?
onthewall2983
07-28-2015, 09:23 AM
http://www.usmagazine.com/uploads/assets/articles/89981-billy-corgan-holds-on-for-dear-life-on-disneyland-ride-pictures/1437755229_billy-corgan-zoom.jpg
Perhaps regretting taking the TNA job.
And now it seems we venture into the land of homophobia...
Just Neverending.
http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/602419-602419
thevoid99
07-28-2015, 08:17 PM
And the new judge of Tough Enough is..... the Miz..... womp-womp
And the new judge of Tough Enough is..... the Miz..... womp-womp
Tough Enough judge rumors,
Ric Flair
Bret Hart
Steve Austin
And we get the Miz. Ultimate letdown.
One rumor was that it could be a rotating replacement. So maybe it was just for tonight. If it's permanent, then yeah, it sucks. I almost watched out of curiosity. Glad I didnt.
thevoid99
07-28-2015, 09:51 PM
If it was Flair. It would've been a party. Bryan and Paige would dance around the Nature Boy.
gorast
07-29-2015, 12:44 AM
Fuck every last person voting for that fat worthless fuck ZZ. Stupid piece of hillbilly trash has no idea what the fuck he's doing here. Lose some weight and watch the product for five fucking seconds and come back in a decade when you don't suck. Fuck you.
Patrick went home because every Reddit neckbeard circlejerked around their loser god and got the better man sent home. Miz wanted to both fuck this blatantly stupid bitch Amanda and fuck Paige over because she nominated Patrick last week and he got Mada, who's improved leaps and bounds since the show started, sent home. This show is a joke just like every other season of Tough Enough. When your best star still with the company is The Miz, you've fucked up. Honestly, I hope Vince personally intervenes and rigs the votes to get ZZ's fat ass shipped straight back to his incestuous country bumfuck hellhole before he ruins more prospects. Fuck ZZ and fuck this show.
I honestly don't see anyway that ZZ doesn't win (unless they rig the vote) other than Bryan and Paige saving whoever the other 2 in the bottom 3 are. He's just way too popular unfortunately.
Space Suicide
07-29-2015, 08:43 AM
Who is this ZZ you speak of?
Who is this ZZ you speak of?
http://www.usanetwork.com/wwetoughenough/cast/zamariah-zz-loupe
Swykk
07-29-2015, 11:46 AM
With Patrick and Mada gone, seriously this is a joke. GUH GUH GUH ER'BODEE LUV DUH HILLBILLY
I would be shocked no matter who wins for the guys if Patrick, Mada, Josh, and Tanner don't get developmental contracts.
Space Suicide
07-29-2015, 01:01 PM
http://www.usanetwork.com/wwetoughenough/cast/zamariah-zz-loupe
wow.
10 characters
Space Suicide
07-29-2015, 06:38 PM
Layla retires. Boo!
Who cares, she stopped being relevant after LayCool. I only ever liked her in Extreme Expose in WWECW anyways.
They didn't use her. Personally, I thought she was of the hotter ones.
Space Suicide
07-29-2015, 07:30 PM
They didn't use her. Personally, I thought she was of the hotter ones.
Only things she was noted for after LayCool was one mediocre title reign and slapping AJ's ass when tapping out.
That's a creative issue. She wasn't the best. But she really wasn't given a fair shot, imo.
thevoid99
07-29-2015, 10:55 PM
I actually liked Layla. She was entertaining. Plus, I loved how she acted as the cowardly heel and did things like put herself in a fetal position when she's about to be attacked.
As for that ZZ guy... that is the person Vince wants.... really.... You don't believe me.... Look at this.....
http://33.media.tumblr.com/14abf9e805fbf660833d9596abc42ce6/tumblr_mw6u8gAzzr1r8u1z3o3_250.gif
ZZ is a Cajun stereotype. Something Vince hasn't done yet. So, of course he's going to win. Apparently someone was eliminated last week, or the week before that proved how rigged the show is?
Swykk
07-31-2015, 05:31 PM
RIP Roddy Piper
This fucking sucks...
I can't believe this! Fuck!
henryeatscereal
07-31-2015, 06:12 PM
Just arrived from my vacations and i find Piper died... R.I.P. i saw him live once at Toronto during a Blue Jays game, sad day...
Space Suicide
07-31-2015, 06:20 PM
No! No! No!
My earliest wrestling memory is of Roddy Piper in a hair vs hair match at Wrestlemania III. Very odd that is the memory burned in my head and not Andre/Hulk but I was 7 and probably fell asleep before the Main Event. RIP Hot Rod.
thevoid99
07-31-2015, 08:29 PM
He's one of my all-time favorites in terms of skills, promos, and just being a badass. Whether he was a heel or a face, he was just fun to watch. The matches he had with Hogan, Bret Hart, Ric Flair. Those are the greats. Plus, how many wrestlers do we know have been in a classic film and give out one of the greatest performances in film ever? Plus, I know this is wrong but.... this is still one of my all-time favorite moments in WrestleMania....
https://whatistheexcel.com/wooobooru/_images/592f6694d6b77400393fa77a7aac9f3c/2069%20-%20rowdy_roddy_piper%20wrestlemania%20wwf.png
spiralout
07-31-2015, 09:27 PM
God Damn It. RIP.
He might very well have been the greatest heel, ever. He had crowds literally want to kill him. That's heat you don't ever see a guy get anymore. He turned it to 11. This one hits me harder than Dusty. I grew up with Piper. The heels of today should go back watch his matches and take notes.
On a side note, I wonder if Austin feels like a piece of shit knowing that his last encounter with him was an extremely negative one.
thevoid99
07-31-2015, 10:42 PM
I'm just watching stuff that Piper did as this one of my favorite moments....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9Bv1EXdOcM
Tums206_BFY
07-31-2015, 11:05 PM
Well damn that was a shock. Hot Rod used to be one of my favorites growing up. RIP Rowdy Roddy Piper gone way too soon!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo_QrixLSSc
My njpw world account expired after just two weeks. I'm pissed.
the duder
08-02-2015, 09:11 PM
Re-watching Zayn/Owens @ Takeover: Rival. Any word on when Zayn could plausibly be in action again? Further - does anyone see a possiblity of Zayn coming in and interfering with the impending Cesaro/Owens match at Summerslam?
Swykk
08-02-2015, 09:45 PM
He said he thought he'd be out the rest of the year. I'd imagine that will be the case. Maybe November/December if his recovery is going well.
thevoid99
08-02-2015, 09:50 PM
I just read from Cageside Seats that Dana White wants to hold a UFC event this December at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas: http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2015/8/2/9087865/ufc-wwe-at-t-stadium-texas-wrestlemania-32-ronda-rousey-conor-mcgregor
Oh shit, Vince will completely shit himself if White pulls off a sellout. Imagine if CM Punk made his debut that night. I think that would kill Vince.
the duder
08-02-2015, 09:53 PM
Swykk - Shit. That's a buzzkill.
richardp
08-03-2015, 12:27 AM
Anyone with the WWE Network, it looks like they just quietly updated the Raw Attitude Era section with 1999 in its entirety!
richardp
08-06-2015, 01:10 AM
Oh shit, guys. Baylor vs. Owens, Ladder Match at Brooklyn Takeover! Bet you this match single handedly outdoes everything on the Summer Slam card.
Maybe it's just me, but I kinda want Orton to "go away". Great in the ring, but he's kinda peaked, imo. What you have seen is what you're going to get. And I have a bad feeling we're going to get another match with Sheamus. Those two don't work well together. WWE keeps doing it though... That match will probably be my bathroom break if/when it happens.
And how is the holy fuck is Ziggler not on the summerslam card? I seriously thought we were going to get some kind of mixed tag match. Now it doesn't even seem likely he'll even be back by then. The WWE movies seem like a huge inconvenience. Someone's getting momentum, etc., so why just stop in the middle of all that and take them off so they can film a forgettable straight to video? It's stupid. He was right in the middle of a storyline. Seems like they have Lana kinda carrying it for him until he comes back, but still...
thevoid99
08-10-2015, 10:16 PM
Another Orton-Sheamus match? Wasn't there a match a few years ago the night after WrestleMania where the fans shit on it and trolled them to the point that fans chanted "boring" and "end this match"? WWE is really trying to kill its audience.
Another Orton-Sheamus match? Wasn't there a match a few years ago the night after WrestleMania where the fans shit on it and trolled them to the point that fans chanted "boring" and "end this match"? WWE is really trying to kill its audience.
That's exactly what happened. They never seem to learn their lesson from it. It's like they're going to do it until we like it. It won't work.
The "please retire" chants are starting to pick up more steam. The guy needs to make a living, but his days as an entertainer is over, imo. We're heading into a new era, new roster. It's the older guys that's holding it back, imo. They've peaked and are just coasting at this point. I'd phase them out over time like they did to piper and savage, etc back in the early 90s.
richardp
08-11-2015, 01:02 AM
Another Orton-Sheamus match? Wasn't there a match a few years ago the night after WrestleMania where the fans shit on it and trolled them to the point that fans chanted "boring" and "end this match"? WWE is really trying to kill its audience.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdv-ou-b12I
"We want X-Pac" is a personal favorite from this.
henryeatscereal
08-11-2015, 10:37 AM
Oh man, Sheamus / Orton has been done to death and it's always a boring match, i don't "hate" any particular worker but it's evident they have no chemistry and as you guys said: the WWE keeps shoving this match in our faces, bathroom break indeed.
In another hand: the Divas match and the "Arrow"/Stardust matches seem interesting (not sure if they will be great though...), i'm specially interested in the Divas match, i would prefer it it were singles matches since this isn't "Survivor Series", but at the same time was the right call since there's too much talent going on...
gorast
08-11-2015, 01:09 PM
I think that happens a lot with Sheamus. He's a good wrestler, but they always stick him with someone he can't work well with for months on end. His feud with Del Rio was visual cancer.
I'm glad that the match with Stephen Amell is a tag match, because that means Amell can be the hot tag and he doesn't have to blow himself up trying to learn how to wrestle in a short period of time. He's a big fan, he's athletic, and he's charismatic, so pairing him with Neville, who has the in-ring ability but is lacking in terms of character and mic work, is a great idea. Sucks that we have to have Barrett as the fourth wheel, but Goldust isn't available and who else is there, really? And Goldust would probably just make Stardust look like a cheap knockoff again when he's evolved into something so much more than that.
World title picture sucks ass right now. There was no need to job out Cesaro and Owens to Orton. Ridiculous. And the fat jokes to Owens? They turned on him really, really fast. This is why no one wants NXT guys to be called up. They either take months to get any real traction (Neville, Lucha Dragons), are never taken seriously in the first place (Bo Dallas, The Ascension), or start out strong but fizzle out because of WWE's shitty booking and treatment of them (Owens, Big E, Wyatt). Once in a while you get a success story (Rollins, Paige), but once in a while isn't good enough. It's so frustrating.
I think SummerSlam is going to be a great show, though. Match-wise, at least. Some of the storylines going in are wonky (and Cena has a chance of winning if he can do the match, though it being SummerSlam combined with his fucked up nose should be enough to keep him from winning), but the in-ring work will be great.
henryeatscereal
08-11-2015, 01:40 PM
^I was surprised with the "fat comments" too, even morbidly overweight guys like Mark Henry, Big Show or Yokozuna didn't get that kind of treatment, this will hurt Owens more than "help him" ...and they dare to have their "anti-bullying" campaign, what a bunch of hypocrites!
spiralout
08-11-2015, 01:56 PM
I agree with the fat comments.....totally unnecessary, but Rollins calling them all jerk offs was hilarious, whether it was scripted or not. It seems that KO is just heading into typical WWE territory and that's too bad. At least we get to see him steal the show in the ladder match at Takeover.
I'm happy that the Divas are getting more times but I'm not a fan of the factions. I can't wait for Banks to break out on her own. I also hate the fact that the Divas title is not on the line at Summerslam.
Raw did nothing for me this week, Taker and Lesnar at next weeks show will be interesting.
thevoid99
08-11-2015, 10:08 PM
I'm disgusted by that fat comment towards Kevin Owens. There's now a rumor that the person who was really responsible for making Owens look bad is.... Kevin Dunn. Here's the article: http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/607089-backstage-news-on-randy-orton-commenting-on-kevin-owens-weight-on-raw-are-wwe-officials-souring-on-owens
I also heard Dunn was trending on Twitter as well as the #firekevindunn. He is a fucking cancer to the world of wrestling.
I read that. If that's true, then yeah, he needs to go. There's definitely a trend of guys coming up from NXT and getting the shaft. Probably why NXT is about to become a full touring show/alternative. Vince/Dunn are burying these guys. So, I can't blame Trips if he put even more stock in NXT and didn't even bother calling anyone up. The fat joke on raw pretty much confirmed the dirt sheets over the last few months. Owens is an amazing wrestler, he can talk, and he can build up tons of heat, yet they're more worried about his look.
Space Suicide
08-12-2015, 09:23 AM
He's not pure muscle and has some noticeable pudge. Who cares. Most normal people do for the most part. As far as WWE and wrestling is concerned, they lost a recent Hall of Famer who was totally noted for being fat. I don't see the issue. I'm not a huge fan of Kevin Owens but he's better than 70% of the current RAW roster.
richardp
08-12-2015, 11:36 AM
What I don't quite get is, if Vince and Dunn are so intent on burying the NXT talent (who are all far more interesting than the active WWE main roster), why don't Triple H and Stephanie put their foots down. They are essentially running NXT, am I correct? Why can't stephanie and Hunter tell their dad/step-dad to back the fuck up?
It was really disheartening to hear the company use fat jokes on Kevin Owens. Like, this dude just gave us the best trilogy of matches that the company has seen in a long time, is easily the best at cutting a Promo ATM, and his merch sales seem to pretty pretty damn high. It's a shame the WWE's backup plan for the WWE title match wasn't Cesaro vs. Owens vs. Rollings, because I can't even fully fathom the snooze-fest that Orton vs. Sheamus vs. Rollings will be if Cena is unable to do Summer Slam.
Cena was cleared. First time, ever, that I crossed my fingers for Cena to come back. Every time I hear about Kevin Dunn, I think of Wormtongue from LOTR. Trips and Steph have a lot of say. But you can only go so far. Vince is still top dog and has the absolute final say. I still hope for the day Vince decides to step down. When Vince goes, Dunn goes too. No way in hell they will keep him around. Vince is his security blanket. Without Vince, he's nothing
Have any of you seen Cornette's shoot videos on Dunn? That gives you a good idea of what kind cancer Dunn is to the company. Not home, so I can't post them. I will when I get home.
henryeatscereal
08-12-2015, 01:51 PM
^I have seen this one, but if you have others please post, I could watch Cornette shoot all day...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5A1M7MLc14A
There's this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEk3w5m4wP8
And, this wonderful gem:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8RuST5EEwE
thevoid99
08-12-2015, 04:39 PM
The one with Paul Bearer is my favorite. Man, Bearer really hates that guy. I would wish he would come back to life and Dunn be sent to hell.
I'm willing to bet he's also the reason Pritchard got forced out. Pritchard was practically Vince's number one for years.
It's funny to watch videos of Bearer talking about the people he had heat with (Dunn and Sunny). But those videos are legit on what a doofus Dunn is. It must kill him that the shows have reverted back to a wrestling format (for the time being). It took YEARS for them to ditch Demott. Dunn is safe and hidden in McMahon's ass. I still have faith that he'll get the book at some point.
thevoid99
08-13-2015, 11:36 PM
Hey wresting fans.... you feeling down? You hate the way some of the great indie stars are being treated by asswipes by Kevin Dunn.... never fear! Here's the newest episode of...... BOTCHAMANIA!!!!!
https://vimeo.com/135855256
Swykk
08-14-2015, 08:12 AM
Nice to see Gargano and Ciampa getting on NXT!
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Hey wresting fans.... you feeling down? You hate the way some of the great indie stars are being treated by asswipes by Kevin Dunn.... never fear! Here's the newest episode of...... BOTCHAMANIA!!!!!
https://vimeo.com/135855256
That might be the best one I've seen in awhile. The heenan/monsoon commentary was great. Too many cooks, heh
Nice to see Gargano and Ciampa getting on NXT!
Not familiar with Gargano. Ciampa is so-so...
thevoid99
08-14-2015, 02:19 PM
I love Tomasso Ciampa. That dude is nuts. The Heenan/Monsoon commentary takes me back to the good days. I love the Too Many Cooks ending.
henryeatscereal
08-17-2015, 10:18 PM
Pretty solid RAW, considering most was same ol'... oh and we got TWO diva matches (!!!)
We've been getting two divas matches on raw now. It's pretty cool. Shame that the fans decided to start chanting JBL during one of them though. Raw was decent. As a go home show, eh... This is shaping up to being a pretty solid weekend. NXT on saturday, which is going to be greatly. Then summerslam the night after. I'm pretty hyped. And, is it just me, or am I the only one who thinks this weekend would be the perfect time for Enzo and Cass to make their main roster debut? Someone had brought that up somewhere, but, that would be awesome if they did. A segment at least.
henryeatscereal
08-18-2015, 11:25 AM
I think Enzo and Cass are ready and yes they should debut and challenge "The New Day", i would love to see that feud...
richardp
08-18-2015, 11:45 AM
Shame that the fans decided to start chanting JBL during one of them though.
They also mostly booed Jon Stewart, so they were just being super douchey last night.
Also, shame on WWE for blatantly showing a fan holding a "FAT OWENS FAT" sign right next to him. Anyone else notice how KO looks visibly thinner in the WWE 2K16 gameplay footage? So fucking dumb.
henryeatscereal
08-18-2015, 01:07 PM
Also, shame on WWE for blatantly showing a fan holding a "FAT OWENS FAT" sign right next to him. Anyone else notice how KO looks visibly thinner in the WWE 2K16 gameplay footage? So fucking dumb.
I saw that douche, and it's funny that not only they showed him on camera, they did a really long shot with Owens and him in the background, i smell Dunn...
spiralout
08-18-2015, 01:40 PM
The crowd was pretty douchey last night....but I liked the sign that said "Naomi is ruining Sasha"
Also, the Stardust/Barrett Promo was a highlight....something about it just worked for me.
richardp
08-18-2015, 01:43 PM
The crowd was pretty douchey last night....but I liked the sign that said "Naomi is ruining Sasha"
Also, the Stardust/Barrett Promo was a highlight....something about it just worked for me.
What happened in that promo? They completely cut that out of the HULU version.
Swykk
08-18-2015, 02:39 PM
They also mostly booed Jon Stewart, so they were just being super douchey last night.
Also, shame on WWE for blatantly showing a fan holding a "FAT OWENS FAT" sign right next to him. Anyone else notice how KO looks visibly thinner in the WWE 2K16 gameplay footage? So fucking dumb.
That's classic Kevin Dunn/Vince petty douchebaggery.
Swykk
08-18-2015, 02:53 PM
The crowd was pretty douchey last night....but I liked the sign that said "Naomi is ruining Sasha"
Yeah, I think they fucked it up by not having it be Bella Twats/Natalya vs Paige/Tamina/Naomi vs Sasha/Charlotte/Becky.
On the NXT side, how have they NOT signed Leva Bates when garbage workers like Carmella (She's green and average looking and you can't...teach...that) and one note promos/Rybread level bad in ring Dana Brooke are around? Replace those useless fools with Candice LaRae and Veda Scott!
No one is ruining Sasha. She's just about carrying Tamina and Naomi. Sasha isn't having that transition period. She came in and literally snatched her spot. If she's nervous, it's hard to tell. She's owning it. So for them to chant shit during their match is stupid. Fuck them. Wasn't the greatest match. But it was a free tv match. Get what you pay for. It was good for what it was. But yeah, fuck that crowd.
I'm getting real tired of the Owens fat shaming. The guy can work his ass off. He talks the talk, and he walks the walk. But, some people are only thinking "he's fat" and how he doesn't fit some stupid mold. The guy is money.
Awesome to see Cesaro where he's had. Getting great reactions, and he's playing off of it extremely well. Maybe this will finally be the push that solidifys him. Then again, creative and mgmt could end up fucking him again.
Extremely obvious that Cena's winning. Set in stone once Rollins did the promo mentioning how he wants a statue. Yeah, he's losing. Could be a decent match though. Imo, THIS is Cena's prime. Last year is easily the best I've ever seen from him. I mean that.
My bet is that Cena won't hold the belt very long. I'm thinking he gets cashed in on the next night and loses. No reason to take the US Title off of him. Not that way at least.
Really don't want a Sheamus title run. But that's what it looks like we're getting. Probably the only reason Cena is winning it, to put the belt on a heel Sheamus. Because, according to wwe logic, a heel can't cash in on a heel.
spiralout
08-18-2015, 04:40 PM
What happened in that promo? They completely cut that out of the HULU version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-l2NbcAxYw
Am I the only one that's actually excited for that tag match. Not sure on how much Amell can do in the ring. But I'm liking everything leading up to it. And I gotta say, I HATED stardust. Legitimately thought it was the burial of Cody. But, as of late, he's been killing it. Barrett, despite being thrown into the match with little to no meaning, had a good promo there. I sighed a little at how out of place he was. But, when he started talking, it completely changed my perception. All hail the cosmic king!
gorast
08-19-2015, 10:28 AM
I think the tag match is going to be very good. It might be pretty formulaic structure-wise (expect Neville to work the majority of it), but the story surrounding it has been very good. Re-positioning Stardust as a supervillain-type further distinguishes him from Goldust and builds him up as his own character, which is a smart move for his long-term longevity (especially since Cody's said that he loves being Stardust). Now, he's not going to win this match, of course, but I think he needs to win more matches after this. Maybe he can trade PPV wins with Neville or someone else. Who else could fit into the superhero role besides Neville?
On another note, Triple H posted what he says is the "full" card for NXT Brooklyn, but it also says it starts at 7:30, when the Network special is supposed to start at 9pm. The first few matches are probably just dark matches to warm the crowd up for the live special, but promotion of this show has been all over the damn place lately. I'm also not happy that Tye Dillinger finally is interesting and he's going to be fed to Uhaa Nation/Apollo Crews because Crews is making his debut. I love Crews, but Dillinger shouldn't be jobbed out for this. And no Enzo/Cass in the title match? Really? Both shows will be really good, though.
henryeatscereal
08-19-2015, 01:34 PM
This is the final card for NXT: Takeover: Brooklyn (including "Dark Matches")
1. NXT Championship (Ladder Match) Kevin Owens vs Finn Balor
2. NXT Tag Team Title Match: The Vaudevillians vs Blake and Murphy
3. NXT Women’s Title Match: Bayley vs Sasha Banks
4. Jushin “Thunder” Liger vs Tyler Breeze
5. Samoa Joe vs Baron Corbin
6. Bull Dempsey vs Elias Samson
7. Apollo Crews vs Tye Dillinger (Crews’ NXT Televised Debut)
8. Eva Marie vs Carmella
9. Enzo Amore, Big Cass & Hype Bros (Zack Ryder and Mojo Rawley) vs Jason Jordan, Chad Gable, Dash Wilder and Scott Dawson
10. Charlotte vs Becky Lynch vs Emma vs Dana Brooke
10 matches? woa!
I will also mention that the event posters for the event are awesome:
http://i0.wp.com/superluchas.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/CMtwt0QWsAAFhkv.jpg?resize=600%2C858
http://i1.wp.com/superluchas.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/CMtwuIhWsAAcXs3.jpg?resize=600%2C858
They're doing a taping the same night as well.
Big Fat Matt
08-19-2015, 07:44 PM
Yeah, apparently everything that happens BEFORE the Crews v Dillinger match is slated to be next weeks regular hour long NXT show.
spiralout
08-20-2015, 01:33 PM
I am officially way more pumped for Takeover than I am for Summerslam. It has the makings to be an unbelievable show.
I enjoyed last nights NXT just because there were so many jobbers that looked like they just came out of Create-a-Wrestler from the video games.
I'm also a little bummed that it's almost guaranteed that Banks will be losing her title......and if KO loses twice this weekend...
I'd say I'm probably about equal hyped for both shows. I think they're going to be good. I don't see Owens going over on Cesaro. Both guys need the win, imo. But, Cesaro needs the win far more if mgmt really intends to finally go in with him. Owens can bounce back, if allowed the opportunities. There is a pic with Owens from some NXT tapings though...
thevoid99
08-20-2015, 03:57 PM
I am officially way more pumped for Takeover than I am for Summerslam. It has the makings to be an unbelievable show.
I enjoyed last nights NXT just because there were so many jobbers that looked like they just came out of Create-a-Wrestler from the video games.
I'm also a little bummed that it's almost guaranteed that Banks will be losing her title......and if KO loses twice this weekend...
I wouldn't mind Banks dropping the belt to Bayley just as long as it means Banks will beat Nikki Bella for the Diva's title and then bring back the Women's title.
There's no way Nikki is dropping the title until WWE erases AJ Lee from the history books. When was the last time she even defended the title? I can't even remember. I too would love them to bring back the women's title.
the duder
08-20-2015, 04:36 PM
There's no way Nikki is dropping the title until WWE erases AJ Lee from the history books. When was the last time she even defended the title? I can't even remember. I too would love them to bring back the women's title.
Since it is a "revolution" and all, why not let Nikki retain to beat AJ's record for holding the DIVA's championship, then retire the belt. The next PPV, hold a tourney for a newly reformed Women's Championship?
It'd be great if they retired the divas belt. Sasha should be the one to beat Nikki. But they're both heels. So that probably won't happen. It'll probably be Charlotte. Definitely heading in that route. Sasha, out of the three, should get it though. But yeah, they're going for Nikki beating AJ's record. No other reason why they would drag out a divas title reign. She should have lost it ages ago. My prediction was for her to hold on to it until someone from NXT came and took it at summerslam, which isn't happening. Hopefully next month. Doesn't even matter at this point on who she drops it to. They need to take the belt off of her.
henryeatscereal
08-21-2015, 09:47 AM
Owens will lose twice, but in my opinion he has the best matches of the weekend.
Most of the Summerslam card looks "meh", but i believe Cesaro/Owens will be the show stealer.
the duder
08-21-2015, 05:47 PM
As much as I dislike (yet respect) Cena, I think he and Rollins have a chance at match of the night as well.
Big Fat Matt
08-21-2015, 07:31 PM
My two predictions/hopes for summerslam.
1: Team BAD wins a fucking match. Why the hell not? They have been jobbing on Raw WEEKLY to to the Bellas and PCB. I think they shock us all and win.
2: Taker loses. Before you jump on me, its part of an elaborate scheme which I am beginning to believe WWE may be trying to pull of.
Seth wins the two titles, and is told by HHH that at NOC, he has to defend them both, US to Cena, and WWE to Lesnar. Seth counts himself out of his US title match, claiming he is "saving himself" for Lesnar, only get to fucking destroyed. This sets up the feud with Rollins and HHH that has been hinted at for months. Lesnar goes back into champion mode, just destroying everything in his path. Royal rumble comes around, entrant #30 is the deadman. He cleans house and the stage is set. WM32, AT7T Stadium in Arlington, Texas, just 3 hours from where Taker was born. He avenges his losses against Brock, wins the WWE title one last time, and the very next day on Raw, shoots a wonderful longform promo thanking the fans, laying the belt in the ring and retiring.
A man can dream...
the duder
08-21-2015, 10:21 PM
My two predictions/hopes for summerslam.
1: Team BAD wins a fucking match. Why the hell not? They have been jobbing on Raw WEEKLY to to the Bellas and PCB. I think they shock us all and win.
2: Taker loses. Before you jump on me, its part of an elaborate scheme which I am beginning to believe WWE may be trying to pull of.
Seth wins the two titles, and is told by HHH that at NOC, he has to defend them both, US to Cena, and WWE to Lesnar. Seth counts himself out of his US title match, claiming he is "saving himself" for Lesnar, only get to fucking destroyed. This sets up the feud with Rollins and HHH that has been hinted at for months. Lesnar goes back into champion mode, just destroying everything in his path. Royal rumble comes around, entrant #30 is the deadman. He cleans house and the stage is set. WM32, AT7T Stadium in Arlington, Texas, just 3 hours from where Taker was born. He avenges his losses against Brock, wins the WWE title one last time, and the very next day on Raw, shoots a wonderful longform promo thanking the fans, laying the belt in the ring and retiring.
A man can dream...
As much as I love option 2's rationale, I have heard a few other workable predictions involving a DQ due to outside interference from Sting, which is the route I'd say they go. Build a program from now till WM and have a true showcase of the immortals between Sting and Taker.
I can see Sting showing up somewhere in the show. As for Team BAD jobbing, sasha made Nikki tap this week. think team PCP or PCB, whatever they're called is going to win. When they say the name, I hear PCP. Taker SHOULD NOT win. No reason for him to win. Especially considering how strong Brock has been booked in the last year. I'd save a Lesnar loss for a guy who needs it. But, then again, that may be a lot to live up to (like the streak). I don't see Taker winning though.
Cena either beats Rollins and gets cashed in on, or it ends in DQ. I can't see them taking the US belt off of him that way. They put in all this work to make the title relevant, and just take the title off of Cena like that? I can't see that happening. If it does, it's incredibly fucking stupid.
Cesaro over Owens (maybe by DQ? I can see a rematch a next month).
Cena over Rollins
Lesnar over Taker
Miz over Big Show and Ryback for the IC title (why not? He's been carrying the entire program)
New Day regains the tag belts
Neville and Amell go over
Team PCB/PCP goes over. My bet is that Sasha and Charlotte could be the final two. Just a feeling.
Rusev over Ziggler. (Or maybe Ziggler by DQ. Rusev gets thr main focus. Rematch next month. Possibly even a mixed tag.)
Not sure if I'm forgetting one.
Big Fat Matt
08-22-2015, 01:53 PM
As much as I love option 2's rationale, I have heard a few other workable predictions involving a DQ due to outside interference from Sting, which is the route I'd say they go. Build a program from now till WM and have a true showcase of the immortals between Sting and Taker.
Sting v Taker at Wrestlemania doesn't work, imo. Taker NEEDS to win at WM32, and sting cannot afford another loss in a WWE ring. 0-2 in WWE greatly devalues his legacy outside of WWE, and I don't see him agreeing to do that.
thevoid99
08-22-2015, 02:23 PM
You fans worried about SummerFest? Don't worry, here's the new episode of.... BOTCHAMANIA!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEtIIKP_4JA
Not sure if I can take another Taker/Lesnar match. I can see them doing it. But, I don't want to see it. I'm still skeptical on how it's going to be tomorrow. Taker can barely walk these days. Let him have the match with Sting, then let him retire.
Just watched Ultima Lucha and holy crap was it great. Vampiro's entrance was amazing. His match with Pentagon Jr was on another level. Johnny Mundo vs Alberto was great too and I marked out for the reunion at the end! The main event was a wild ride. I actually downloaded the finale so I finally got to see an episode in English and it was even better actually understanding what was happening. I hope they get a season 2.
Really hope they get a season 2 as well. They seem sure it'll happen, but, on a much lower budget.
Holy shit! Does anyone see the nxt crowd? I thought they were making it limited seating. But it looks like a main roster crowd. No pressure, heh. The fact that nxt can fill an arena speaks volumes though
gorast
08-22-2015, 07:53 PM
They legitimately sold that fucker out. They were going to do a limited crowd before, but it sold out in under an hour, so they opened up the whole thing. This show is going to be great. Even the Corbin/Joe match looks good after that promo video. When did Corbin get so good at being a heel?
I heard Graves talk about how they thought they'd do the smallest seating configuration and then the presell sold well so they moved to the second seating configuration and that sold out so they went to the big seating configuration and sold it out. This is the first time WWE has sold out the same building three straight nights (takeover, Summerslam, Raw.)
Big Fat Matt
08-22-2015, 07:55 PM
BFM's official predictions
Record (5-1)
NXT Takeover
predictions in bold, winners in italics
Apollo Crews v Tye Dillinger
Baron Corbin v Samoa Joe
Sasha Banks (c) v Bayley
Blake and Murphy (c) v The Vaudevillains
Jushin Thunder Liger v Tyler Breeze
Finn Balor (c) v Kevin Owens
SUMMERSLAM
predictions in bold, winners in italics
Prime Time Players (c) v Lucha Dragons v Los Matadores v The New Day
Ryback (c) v The Miz V Big Show
Bray Wyatt & Luke Harper v Roman Reigns & Dean Ambrose
Stephen Armell & Neville v Stardust & King Barrett
Kevin Owens v Cesaro
Team Bella v Team B.A.D. v PCB
Dolph Ziggler v Rusev
Brock Lesnar v The Undertaker
Randy Orton v Sheamus
John Cena v Seth Rollins
They legitimately sold that fucker out. They were going to do a limited crowd before, but it sold out in under an hour, so they opened up the whole thing. This show is going to be great. Even the Corbin/Joe match looks good after that promo video. When did Corbin get so good at being a heel?
In an hour?! Aside from the tag title match, it's going to be an amazing show. As for Corbin, the second he finally started showing some character/personality. There might still be hope for him yet!
I REALLY like the Vaudevillians. Blake and Murphy do nothing for me. Half the time I forget they're the tag Champs because they're barely featured on tv.
Tums206_BFY
08-22-2015, 08:06 PM
Holy shit this crowd is Gonna be insane!
Liger!!!!
Were they really just chanting Blue Pants city? At first I thought they were chanting suplex city. I was like "oh, fuck off".
Big Fat Matt
08-22-2015, 08:30 PM
That crows is on fucking fire tonight.
"blue pants city"
"full sail sucks"
Is it just me or does Alexa's outfit kinda remind me of Sunny's Body Donnas outfit? Kinda ugly though...
Big Fat Matt
08-22-2015, 08:35 PM
I thought B&M woulda done it, but i am SO happy to see the Vaudevillians as tag champs!
I thought B&M woulda done it, but i am SO happy to see the Vaudevillians as tag champs!
I didn't see that happening at all. Awesome! Good match too.
Crowd didn't really seem into Joe/Corbin... It was a pretty solid match.
Big Fat Matt
08-22-2015, 09:15 PM
It had a VERY old school feel to it. I think that most of the audience was too young to appreciate the storytelling in the ring.
Steph is looking good too. Hell, all of the ladies are looking good tonight!
thevoid99
08-22-2015, 09:16 PM
Were they really just chanting Blue Pants city? At first I thought they were chanting suplex city. I was like "oh, fuck off".
I heard they were chanting for Blue Pants during that Carmella-Botch Marie match as Brooklyn were booing the shit out of the latter.
I thought the match was great. But yeah, maybe it was too old school for some. They came alive a bit towards the end though. You could see the disappointment on Joe's face. Bummer. He and Corbin worked their asses off.
I liked that Corbin proved he could wrestle a longer match. I'm sure that facing Joe didn't hurt. I liked the match a lot.
Bayley with the Dusty Polka-dots tugs at the heart.
Corbin made a statement tonight. With the new heel persona, and proving he can legit work a full length match, he has a future.
Big Fat Matt
08-22-2015, 09:36 PM
Bayley v Sasha is front runner for Match of the weekend...
edit: Bayley fell on her fucking neck.
Tums206_BFY
08-22-2015, 09:40 PM
Holy shit that was one hell of a match!
THAT WAS A FUCKING MATCH! That fall was pretty nasty. The way Sasha landed on the outside was cringe worthy as well. Great match though. And we still have one more. Big mistake having Summerslam the night after...
Next Takeover apparently takes place in the UK in December? NXT is moving up, quickly.
Big Fat Matt
08-22-2015, 09:42 PM
Great to see Bayley get the gold, and so sasha can move full-time to the main roster. Now we just have to see if the womens division can keep up the same caliber of talent with Sasha, Charlotte and Becky all up in the main roster. I think Bayley can 'lead' the division while a new 'class' of ladies works their way in.
front runner for match of the weekend, imo.
Easily match of the night (so far). Great ending with the four of them as well.
THAT WAS A FUCKING MATCH! That fall was pretty nasty. The way Sasha landed on the outside was cringe worthy as well. Great match though. And we still have one more. Big mistake having Summerslam the night after...
Next Takeover apparently takes place in the UK in December? NXT is moving up, quickly.
Next Takeover is in October. Regal made that announcement when talking about the Dusty tag tournament. Sounded like they just announced a UK tour not a Takeover.
Ahhhh. Guess I misheard it...
Big Fat Matt
08-22-2015, 10:19 PM
Okay, maybe Balor v Owens is match of the weekend...
Okay, maybe Balor v Owens is match of the weekend...
Close, but no. Insane to think Owens is going to probably have match of the night with Cesaro in less than 24 hours from now.
gorast
08-22-2015, 11:03 PM
I think they might do a UK Takeover, but it definitely wasn't clear at all. Didn't help that HHH said "NXT takes over the UK", either. But the next one is definitely in October.
I'm going to have to start watching NXT again. I thought the roster raids combined with some less-than-stellar newcomers wrecked the show a little, but I guess I got fuckin' proven wrong with this show. Wow.
Surprised to see Breeze and Liger open. Not surprised to see Liger go over. I thought for a bit that he might give it to Breeze (especially when they mentioned he's 1-3 at Takeovers - how did they let that happen?), but him going over isn't a problem in this match. It's a longer-term problem, though, because Breeze continues to job out when he doesn't deserve it. They had a chance to have him take out a legend here and they didn't do it. But, of course, they'll job out Sting at WrestleMania. Of course.
Tag match was great. I was hoping for a little bit more interference from Bliss to give Ol' Blue Pants some more shine time, but she made the most of her spot, and the Vaudevillains earned this win. I wonder if BAMF will be moving up, then - they've figured out their schtick and have gotten very good at it, and the tag division could use a bit of freshening up. We'll see with the Tag Classic tournament, I suppose. Something novel for that would be to have the rematch during the tournament, but not as a finals match or anything, but that might be perceived as devaluing the belts. Oh well.
Crews is fantastic. So much charisma. He's going to have a long, long WWE career. Glad they got him early before the indies destroyed his body. Dillinger, I think, got a little bit too much offense, though - I'm glad it was competitive, but it was starting to drain the match of its momentum towards the middle. His new gimmick is hilarious.
Corbin and Joe put on a god damn classic. I was never really a Corbin hater - a month after I started watching NXT, I went to a live show in Tampa and saw him work a full-length match, and I could immediately see that he was more than capable of it. They had some false starts with him - the Neville match back in February, the match with Dempsey at Takeover Rival, things like that - but I think this match will really allow him to move past the squashes. One can hope, anyway.
Good fucking god, the women always deliver at Takeovers. I didn't think a match's story could ever get bigger than the Sasha/Becky one from Unstoppable, but good god, they did it here. I haven't even watched NXT in two months and I teared up a little when Bayley won. This is what she deserved. She's going to do great at the top of the division, and she'll help the new girls rebuild and keep the division as good as it's always been. Perfect match with a perfect story to go with it. Nothing more to say.
Ladder match was damn brutal, with the expected ending. A lot of the spots were gross - Owens had to deliver his own last rites before he did the senton onto Balor on the ladder, and that wasn't even halfway through the match. And Balor survived the apron powerbomb - demon paint protected him, I guess. Good match, the right guy went over, but I really feel like if there was any time to do it, this show would've been the one to have the women in the last spot. Oh well. There's always October.
Also, LMAO at Seth being shown on-camera with Zahra, who he was cheating on his fiancee with. I can't believe WWE actually did that. And the Tough Enough guys, damn. Those four got demolished by the crowd. They deserve it, kind of, but man, it was rough.
Fantastic show as always, a lot stronger than Rival and Unstoppable. Essentially on the level of [R]Evolution, which I thought they would never surpass. Good things in NXT's future.
Didn't think Liger was going to go over. Not sure what they're doing with Breeze. But, I can understand why Liger won. The rumor out there is that we may see some NJPW guys pop up in NXT. There could be a bigger reason to Liger winning.
Crews needs a more effective finisher, imo. Tons of potential.
I can't rave about the women's match enough. It was the match of the night
I'm not big on B&M. They look goofy. Not liking the new attire either. Alexa looked like 1995 Sunny. She's proving to be a legit heel though.
I agree about Joe/Corbin. Happy that he's finally showing some personality. I was beginning to think the squash matches were a crutch to cover up a weakness. He barely talked. But, these last two weeks, we got a completely new Corbin, and it's pretty good. Imo, his stock increased ten fold.
No problem with the ladder match. Good match. But how do you follow up the women's match? By the time the ladder match started, I was spent.
Big Fat Matt
08-23-2015, 04:16 AM
BFM's official predictions
Record (5-1)
NXT Takeover
predictions in bold, winners in italics
Apollo Crews v Tye Dillinger
Baron Corbin v Samoa Joe
Sasha Banks (c) v Bayley
Blake and Murphy (c) v The Vaudevillains
Jushin Thunder Liger v Tyler Breeze
Finn Balor (c) v Kevin Owens
SUMMERSLAM
predictions in bold, winners in italics
Prime Time Players (c) v Lucha Dragons v Los Matadores v The New Day
Ryback (c) v The Miz V Big Show
Bray Wyatt & Luke Harper v Roman Reigns & Dean Ambrose
Stephen Armell & Neville v Stardust & King Barrett
Kevin Owens v Cesaro
Team Bella v Team B.A.D. v PCB
Dolph Ziggler v Rusev
Brock Lesnar v The Undertaker
Randy Orton v Sheamus
John Cena v Seth Rollins
Well, My predictions are holding up quite well! I hope i can keep this hot streak going...
spiralout
08-23-2015, 06:18 AM
Takeover was great overall. A little predictable though.
Women's match was the best of the night but I hated the curtain call ending.....kayfabe should still exist. That should have been saved for backstage.
Swykk
08-23-2015, 10:22 AM
I agree that Takeover was a great show but disagree about kayfabe. It's dead. Let it be dead.
I agree about kayfabe being dead. Social media killed it. We're still going to have people do heelish things, and say heelish things. The days of being a legit face or heel is over. What we have now is just characters with character progression. A lot more "heels" are being cheered than the "faces" these days anyway.
spiralout
08-23-2015, 03:13 PM
I know Kayfabe is dead....it's just me being an old guy. Round 2 in a little while, wish it wasn't four hours....but that's what alcohol is for.
Hoping for a big swerve or angle to start tonight.
richardp
08-23-2015, 03:21 PM
Women's match was the best of the night but I hated the curtain call ending.....kayfabe should still exist. That should have been saved for backstage.
I agree that it was easily the best of the night, and probably will be better than anything at Summerslam. But I really disagree about kayfabe. Sasha Banks coming back in and all four having a moment, really elevated the emotional factor of that match. Sometimes it's nice to put the product to the side for a second and let the people have a genuine moment of celebration for a huge milestone in their life and with each other, you know?
Really hoping for one in that tag match. If not, then it's a waste.
the duder
08-23-2015, 06:14 PM
Ugh...laggy feed and that John Stewart/Mick Foley intro was painful. Now Orton/Sheamus to kick us off....
Tuned in late. At least I miss some of the match I didn't want to see.
the duder
08-23-2015, 07:23 PM
Amell impressed me. Legit, fun match.
He did good. Possibly the best a celebrity has done?
Space Suicide
08-23-2015, 07:34 PM
He did good. Possibly the best a celebrity has done?
He's physically fit and does a shit ton on Arrow himself so not surprised really.
the duder
08-23-2015, 08:04 PM
Last night, Bayley changed her ring attire to white; defeated Sasha Banks to win championship.
Earlier tonight, New Day changed their ring attire to white; won fatal 4-way for tag championships.
Rollins debuts in new, all white ring attire...?
Tends to happen with summerslam for some reason.
Cena just got screwed Jon Stewart? Really?? How does something like this happen?
thevoid99
08-23-2015, 08:29 PM
Cena just got screwed Jon Stewart? Really?? How does something like this happen?
Who cares! Stewart turned face and helped Seth Rollins. That is what happened and the people love it! Thank you Jon Stewart!
I'm not hating. It was awesome. Just incredibly from out of nowhere. No one could have saw that coming
thevoid99
08-23-2015, 08:35 PM
Maybe I will watch RAW tomorrow.
the duder
08-23-2015, 08:39 PM
I'm not hating. It was awesome. Just incredibly from out of nowhere. No one could have saw that coming
I was immediately pissed; Rollins was having the match of his life (the dueling roll-thru to deadlift to AA combos were sick!), only to have Stewart jump in and invalidate the whole thing and cheapen his championship reign even further. Now I'm just kinda pissed, and kinda coming to terms with it. Maybe I'll like the booking by tomorrow.
I feel like Rollins has been booked like a perfect heel champion. Put on a great performance and then just needs to cheat to win. I like it.
henryeatscereal
08-23-2015, 09:52 PM
I'm glad Rollins won, i don't think i would be able to stand another Cena reign, plus he's no Ric Flair...
the duder
08-23-2015, 09:57 PM
I feel like Rollins has been booked like a perfect heel champion. Put on a great performance and then just needs to cheat to win. I like it.
Yeah it makes sense to continue his heel reign, I just thought the way he was working the match was more in line with a possible face turn. I also had more questions around why Stewart had ANY part in the match, but, hey, HEADLINES. As previously stated, the more I think about it, it makes more sense (minus the interference from Stewart).
thevoid99
08-23-2015, 09:58 PM
I'm glad Rollins won, i don't think i would be able to stand another Cena reign, plus he's no Ric Flair...
He is nowhere in the league of Flair. Flair is 22-time champion (some of those reigns aren't recognized by the NWA and the WWE) and held those titles for a long time. He was a great champion and he dropped the belt to those who earned it and didn't look weak in the process nor made him look bad. Plus, can anyone remember a promo that Cena gave that is in the same league of any of the promos Flair has done?
Who won the final match?
Space Suicide
08-23-2015, 10:03 PM
Undertaker vs Brock lesnar: Rematch 2 at Survivor Series anyone? Hell even Hell in a Cell. I'm calling it.
thevoid99
08-23-2015, 10:26 PM
Well, I read what happened. That was bullshit. I guess Taker is now a heel.
quietime
08-23-2015, 11:00 PM
Just got back from Summerslam. This is the perfect set up for Sting vs Taker. Remember when Sting said "I'm the face of retribution. I am the silencer of injustice. I am Sting." Sting will make this right. Jon Stewart heel turn was awesome! I'm drunk good night.
spiralout
08-23-2015, 11:25 PM
Okay....Summerslam was pretty good. Rollins won in heel fashion but it looks like he didn't expect Stewart to do what he did. Rollins is going to be hilarious as WWE Champ and US Champ.
The Divas match was booked terribly IMO. No one cared about the finish
Amell was better than expected, I hope Stardust and Barrett remain together.
Owens FTW
The Taker Brock match was great, much better than the WM match. Guess Taker really is a heel now.
gorast
08-23-2015, 11:30 PM
Alright, well, that was a show.
First off, Orton/Sheamus was boring as shit right up until the double-brogue finish. Good way to do the ending, and if Sheamus isn't cashing in (which he didn't), then him going over was the right call.
Tag match was a hilarious mess. They actually had me believing for a second that the fuckin' Matadores would be walking out with the belts. Glad New Day got them back - they're the real best team in the division. PTP had a good run, but AYYYYY, WE WANT SOME NEW DAY.
Ziggler/Rusev fucking sucked like I thought it would. Ziggler has hit the bottom and he's dragging Rusev down with him. The only thing this angle has done besides tanking Ziggler, Lana, and Rusev is that it gave Summer Rae something to do and she's done a good job. And we didn't even get a real finish, so look forward to this trainwreck at Night of Champions. Fuck this match.
Amell/Neville and Stardust/Barrett was a good match with a surprising amount of heat on Amell. Everything he did was super basic, but he did his spots well, and he earned his spot in the match, I think. Shame that they won't be able to make this a long-running feud.
IC triple threat was fine. Miz had some good comedy spots, Big Show didn't win, satisfactory all around. 2/3 Shield vs 2/3 Wyatts was a good, brutal match, but it didn't do Roman any favors. I think the Wyatts should've gone over (story of every Wyatt match, amirite?), but I was satisfied overall.
Good god, Big Match John is so good. This match was fantastic, and all of the spots were incredible. I didn't even know Seth could do a running moonsault. Cena needs to get rid of that damn stunner, though. Looks fucking awful every time and the commentators have to cover his ass. Jon Stewart turning heel was incredible. I really thought he was going to fuck Rollins, and I'm very interested in seeing why he did what he did. This has a ton of potential. I wonder how long Rollins will have both belts, though - that takes a spot away from the midcard that they need.
Divas match was a fucking mess, but I enjoyed watching it. I'm really glad that Becky got the pin - Charlotte's been slipping on the main roster and Paige has had her time, so Becky was the best choice to go over. She'd better get a title shot and win next month.
Cesaro/Owens was the pure wrestling match of the night. Fantastic work all around. Glad Owens went over, seeing as he endured four big losses in a row, but it's a shame it came at the cost of Cesaro. As long as he keeps winning after this, he'll be fine.
Lesnar/Taker was...a match. Taker is slow as shit, but he gets his spots in, so it's fine. Lesnar's a monster as usual. Those Germans were scary, even though Taker took them the right way. That finish, though...I think ringing the bell was the big mistake. Have Lesnar celebrate, have Heyman see the tapout, have Lesnar drop the hold and celebrate because he thinks this is an easy ride, get the ref distracted, then do Underhanded Heel Taker and go with the finish. The bell ringing fucked everything up and confused the entire arena because only a single row of people, probably, could see Taker tapping. Guess we're headed to round 3 at Mania, in any case.
I've seen a lot of people getting real mad over this, but I thought that, bar the main event finish and some boring undercard matches, this was a very good show. The main event drags it down, though.
spiralout
08-23-2015, 11:44 PM
One thing that I really enjoyed about this event was that the commentators brought attention to the blood...made it feel like more of a competition than a show.
Swykk
08-23-2015, 11:57 PM
Seth Rollins is the fucking man. Great performance tonight!
Swykk
08-24-2015, 12:24 AM
Also, if it wasn't abundantly obvious to everyone before, Team Bella Twatz cannot hang in the ring with any of the others except Tamina. It's insulting that they're still even in the same playing field. And that Nikki has the title but, hey, the office needs to stick it to AJ (and by proxy, Punk)!
richardp
08-24-2015, 01:47 AM
The ending to that Taker match was so goddamn dumb. What a lame buzzkill. It was such a shitty idea that the TV production couldn't even pull it off without it just looking as sloppy as it really was. Oh well, the Cena/Rollins match was great and that's the match I was most excited for.
Truthfully though, Bayley vs Sasha at NXT Takeover was far and away the best match of the weekend. Nothing a SummerSlam was able to top that.
Also, side note, but what was the deal with them seemingly NEVER having the Titan Tron screen showing anythingthe entire weekend? I swear I even heard chants of "Turn the screen on" during one of the matches at NXT Takeover.
The ending of the main event was completely lame. I get that they're trying to protect Brock but it just came off as confusing.
henryeatscereal
08-24-2015, 10:23 AM
Summerslam was decent but NXT Takeover was the REAL winner of the weekend...
the duder
08-24-2015, 05:28 PM
My soon-to-be-wife just sent me this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy6uvgPCm0c
She's a keeper!
The Dudleys return! Looks like they might be back, like, for real. Hell yes!
thevoid99
08-24-2015, 09:32 PM
Believe it or not but.... John Cena turned heel by attacking Jon Stewart who explained his actions all because he didn't want to see Ric Flair's record to be broken. Then again, Cena had been a heel for a very long time.
What he did was completely heelish. But, he did get screwed over in a heelish way. Maybe Stewart is that catalyst. Maybe not. He'll always be in that gray area though. Good segment though. Pretty good raw. Shitty crowd.
richardp
08-24-2015, 11:55 PM
Wow, Sting AND The Dudleys? That's so good that it almost feels as if WWE is saying "hey we know we fucked up, so this one's on us."
Some people are hating on Sting. I'm hyped for him. He was quick as a cat in there. Shame that some of his paint melted off though. Must have been hot in there.
thevoid99
08-25-2015, 12:53 AM
Hey, I'm for a Sting WWE title reign just as long as he drops the belt to someone worthy like Rollins, Ziggler, Cesaro, or Owens. I just hope it's not to Cena, Sheamus, Orton, Reigns, or.... Cena again.
henryeatscereal
08-25-2015, 09:50 AM
Marked out big for The Dudleys and Sting...
So it doesn't make sense for Sting to go 0-2 in WWE but I can't see them putting the belt on him either. Very interesting.
richardp
08-25-2015, 09:51 AM
There's no way the WWE is going to trust the WWE Title with an old timer like Sting. It's cool they're giving him a title shot, but I can nearly guarantee that Rollins will retain and then we won't see Sting again until Mania.
Maybe they do one of those finishes where it looks like Sting won the championship and the Authority reverses it the next night.
But yeah if I'm a betting man I'd bet on Rollins winning.
I wonder what their plans are for the US championship.
henryeatscereal
08-25-2015, 10:02 AM
Yeah, most likely they are going to make him job again, the WWE loves to piss on the WCW, it reminds me the promo Vince Mcmahon did when he bought the WCW (back in 2001...)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U4jzyaJhok
No way Rollins is dropping the title. If I had to guess, someone will get involved (possibly Kane?). I just hope they can keep up their momentum during the fall season. The product is usually awful by this time of the year.
spiralout
08-25-2015, 01:42 PM
Glad I didn't catch any spoilers or last night's Raw. Made for a fun 3 hours.
The Dudleys and Sting were awesome.
Who do you think joins Ambrose and Reigns?
It was sad to see a match with Becky and Charlotte in it get shit on pretty hard.
Pretty good show aside from the divas match. The crowd ruined that match.
thevoid99
08-25-2015, 04:02 PM
Pretty good show aside from the divas match. The crowd ruined that match.
Brie Bella definitely said something in response and told Brooklyn to kiss her ass.
Personally, I tired of tag matches. So maybe that's what happened. Either way, you spend all this time talking about a change in the division, and when you finally get something, you shit on it.
richardp
08-25-2015, 05:11 PM
Brie Bella definitely said something in response and told Brooklyn to kiss her ass.
Must have been bad enough to keep that match out of the Hulu broadcast.
The John Stewart segment was great though. Hell, even the Paul Heyman promo at the start was fantastic.
the duder
08-25-2015, 05:21 PM
Just read this (https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/wwe-the-prison-of-history-and-the-problem-with-being-bigger-than-life), and wow. Seemed rather spot-on. Bravo, Vice Sports.
thevoid99
08-25-2015, 11:39 PM
Must have been bad enough to keep that match out of the Hulu broadcast.
The Jon Stewart segment was great though. Hell, even the Paul Heyman promo at the start was fantastic.
Well, I also heard some things that Nikki Bella had said which didn't just kill this whole Diva's Revolution but also raised a lot of questions into why she's still the Diva's Champion as rumor has it that John Cena is the one that is making sure she is holding that title. She said that no one cares about these new girls and such yet fans were chanting for Sasha Banks last night.
They're holding the new girls down with these tag matches. Nikki never defends the title (2-3 months?). How are you supposed to elevate a division with just tag matches. I know they can put on a show. Why won't they let them?
gorast
08-26-2015, 12:28 AM
They're on autopilot until Nikki hits 300. It's such fucking garbage. The worst part is that you know they're going to take the belt off that bitch immediately at Night of Champions, which will just confirm that they wanted to have her coast through her reign to give AJ the big finger. Stupid.
This movement fell apart really hard. It's ridiculous how much damage they've done to the division. It's going to take a long time to recover from this, and recovery will only start once the Bellas and Alicia Fox are out. I used to defend Nikki's wrestling because she'd improved a lot, but they're not giving her anything to work with, so her matches have dropped off a damn cliff in quality.
And if that John Cena rumor is true, hoo boy. Fucking scumbag.
What's wrong with Fox? The politics are mostly centered around Nikki. As long as the bellas are around, there may be no real progression in the division.
And yeah, it's pretty shitty of Cena. Not the first time either. Happened with Mickey James as well. Dated Cena, got a big push out of it, and when they broke up, the push went away.
henryeatscereal
08-26-2015, 08:37 AM
Alicia Fox is lame, she isn't terrible in the ring, but nothing great either and she has no gimmick, she looks out of place even with the Bellas.
I agree that the progression will come when they take off the belt of Nikki, i think Charlotte is the safe bet, but now that Sasha has lost the NXT strap, she needs something to stand out and not get lost in the mix of B.A.D.
Fox does seem out of place with the bellas. But, I do find her completely underrated. As for Sasha. A title reign but nice. But, does she really need one? She's already over. A title reign would help some. But, I don't think she's in a position where she needs the title to get over. She could, on the other hand, put the title over (which needs to happen once the finally take the belt off Nikki). I see them going with Charlotte, because she needs it more.
As long as they can still use Sasha prominently, all is well. If they cant, and they're still incapable of booking divas, then yeah, but the belt on Sasha.
henryeatscereal
08-26-2015, 10:28 AM
I was checking the statistics and Nikki's reign is the second longest one ever, (first AJ). It was interesting to see people like Eve Torres (pretty forgettable reign in my opinion...) and Maryse among the "top-players", and real wrestlers like Beth Phoenix or Natalya almost at the bottom...
The problem with the women's division has been constant, now i see why they have this long reigns with mediocre valets, there's a mix of lack of talent and terrible booking, you don't need a long reign for it to be memorable, Lita's reigns were short but many and she was over, Trish had long reigns but she had lots of talent and charisma (and great opponents like Mickey James).
I think this could be the beginning of a new golden age for the women's division but they really need to stop favoring the valets and think more of wrestling and luckily Charlotte, Sasha and Becky have the talent and the charisma, it's a no brainer really...
There's definitely going to be a transition period. You can't just change everything in one go. So maybe we need to be patient about it. But there's definitely some red flags.
richardp
08-26-2015, 12:08 PM
Yeah I truly don't understand why they're not letting them all wrestle individually. Sasha had the best match of the weekend at NXT, and the next night she BARELY performed in that lame ass tag team elimination mess. Women wrestlers will never get taken seriously with Vince and Co being so stubbornly male driven. I'm just forever waiting for the first WWE PPV that is main evented by two women.
gorast
08-26-2015, 12:28 PM
Fox is shit, that's what's wrong with her. There's this circlejerk on the wrestling subreddit about her just because her northern lights suplex is good. One move. She can literally do one move right. Her scissor kick is shit, her selling is shit, her mannerisms are shit, everythign else about her is trash and she's been in the WWE for too long. I can't stand her and I can't stand this idea that she's somehow one of the best women in the division when Natalya can wrestle circles around her even in unchoreographed matches.
When this angle is over I never want to see Alicia fucking Fox on my television ever again.
henryeatscereal
08-26-2015, 01:06 PM
Her suplex is impressive, i'll give her that, sadly this doesn't translate in great matches, she reminds me of Billy Kidman (boring personality, boring matches, nonexistent mic skills) but DAMN what an awesome shooting star press...
I don't hate her and i rather have her as champ than Nikki Bella, but that would be terrible because her character is so lame.
the duder
08-26-2015, 07:01 PM
I like the New Day more and more every time I see them:
http://youtu.be/z9aoTLldUIc
Michael Cole - not so much.
Big Fat Matt
08-26-2015, 07:30 PM
Every time I see Enzo and Big Cass, I mark out like a 10 year old.
Swykk
08-26-2015, 08:04 PM
Eva Marie or Carmella? I can't tell who is worse. "Blue Pants" chant was perfect.
Eva Marie or Carmella? I can't tell who is worse. "Blue Pants" chant was perfect.
Eva Marie. Carmella tried what she could to salvage it, but no. Where's all that training? Has no one taught her how to sell? I really had hopse that Eva could turn it around and prove people wrong. That's not going to happen.
People really hate on Dana Brooke, alot. She's not great. But, she has a ton of potential, imo. Her accent is weird. But, compared to Eva Marie, I can see her getting better and really going somewhere.
gorast
08-26-2015, 09:09 PM
Dana Brooke has picked up more than Eva Marie has, I think. She has a better understanding of what works. She's the kind of wrestler that the company needs - someone home-grown that will last a long time and make an impact. I think she can do it.
I'm really disappointed in Eva's wrestling. I always thought that, if she had more than two months of training under her belt, she'd be able to do well. But her matches are in slow motion and they're a chore to watch. That's not a good sign.
thevoid99
08-26-2015, 10:21 PM
I knew that red-headed cum-dumpster was going to suck. She can get the best trainers in the world and she still can't do shit. She can't sell, she doesn't know any holds, and even botches her own finishing move. I even heard she botched herself getting pinned. Who does that shit? And this is what Vince and Kevin Dunn want to be the face of the Divas division at NXT? They can fuck off.
BTW, that New Day thing is fucking hilarious. I feel the power of positivity. I love those guys now. They're great.
henryeatscereal
08-26-2015, 10:29 PM
Just for the record: The New day is awesome!
Xavier with the trombone KILLED IT! Not sure if they can be legit heels now. Not sure if they can get legit heat now. They're crazy over.
Maybe Eva can manage. In-ring, there's no hope there. Has no one taken her to the side to tell her about her selling and lack of character? Does she even want to be there? To me, she trained to learn the basics and the moves. But, she has zero passion in what she's doing out there. Just halfassing it and going through the motions. It's pathetic, and she doesn't deserve the tv time.
A year from now, I see Brooke getting a lot better than she is now. She's still very green. But as time goes on, I think she's going to be a legit contender on the main roster. That is, if the divas can get consistent booking.
Kinda felt bad for Carmella. Because while Eva was halfassing that arm hold, she was doing her best to sell it (still fell flat). Carmella is no vet, but she got the short end on that one as well.
gorast
08-27-2015, 12:09 AM
Carmella's improved a ton since she debuted. I like that she can function independently of Enzo and Cass, and she's developed a lot of personality in the ring. She works better as a babyface than she did squashing fan favorites with her weirdly elaborate submission. She was great in that match and carried Eva Marie the entire time.
I did forget how gross Dana looks, though. I know that's petty and shallow, but good lord, I can't stand her face. Works well for her, but Jesus.
In any case, I'm glad that I have consistent Internet to watch NXT regularly again. This episode was good - way too long, too much Takeover filler, but still good. Can't wait to see the start of the Tag Classic next week - that's going to be the best over the next couple of months.
Seemed like they botched the finish of that four way. Apparently, Dana was supposed to break the count, but didn't. Refs wre instructed to not stop the count for any reason. So I wonder if Emma was supposed to win or not. Cool she won though.
Not looking forward to the tag tournament. Probably thank wwe for this, but I have almost no interest in tag matches anymore. Same goes for NJPW, who have a shit ton of them. I'm tired of them and really want less of them. A tournament isn't going to change that for me, most likely.
henryeatscereal
08-27-2015, 08:47 AM
Since we have been discussing divas most of the page (don't get me wrong, it think it's awesome); what's your opinion of "Blue Pants", i think she's ok in the ring but has the dumbest gimmick ever.
If I remember correctly, she was only meant to come in and job to someone, and that was it. No thought went into her. Not even a name. Somehow, despite not having a name or a win, she got over. It's hilarious and awesome at the same time. This clearly wasn't supposed to happen. But, they adapted and played off of it incredibly well. So yeah, I'm all for Blue Pants.
Blue Pants has a fucking t-shirt! That lady is over big!
henryeatscereal
08-27-2015, 11:03 AM
Not sure if retarded or awesome...
http://www.wrestlecrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/WWE-Blue-Pants-shirt.png
It is official the December NXT Takeover will originate from the UK. December 16th from London.
Space Suicide
08-27-2015, 01:50 PM
Not sure if retarded or awesome...
http://www.wrestlecrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/WWE-Blue-Pants-shirt.png
retarded. Average wrestler and dumb non-gimmick gimmick.
gorast
08-27-2015, 02:23 PM
Emma was almost certainly not supposed to win that 4-Way. Charlotte lost her shit after the match because she was obviously supposed to get the pin after Dana broke up Emma's pin. Dana was out of place because she's a green rookie, that's not necessarily her fault, it'll happen. Charlotte, however, was being incredibly unprofessional in how she handled it. Going after Emma because of a botch and doing the planned finish anyway is stupid, and pinning her after two finishers is excessive and makes you look like a god damn baby. Dana actually helped that sequence by going in after Charlotte and getting Becky involved too, but Charlotte should never have initiated a post-match beatdown. She's a face, she's not allowed to do that sort of shit.
The ending of that match left a bad taste in my mouth. Emma getting the win, even though she wasn't supposed to, builds her as a title contender, whereas Charlotte and Becky are no longer in the NXT picture. Should've let her have her moment.
So apparently there was some sort of shooting at the performance center.
thevoid99
08-31-2015, 03:47 PM
So apparently there was some sort of shooting at the performance center.
Really? And someone tried to stab Dean Ambrose a few days ago at a house show.
No, they tried stabbing him at the SD tapings. Apparently, the PC guy was someone who they were already familiar with. He was banned. Think he was even arrested at one point.
henryeatscereal
08-31-2015, 04:48 PM
Apparently it was a 29 year old male obsessed with a Diva (not sure who)
http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/615211-shooting-outside-wwe-performance-center
gorast
09-01-2015, 12:11 AM
Sasha Banks being jobbed out to Paige on Raw is fucking bullshit and I'm glad that racist dipshit Zahra Schreiber was fired. That's all I've got for today.
Swykk
09-01-2015, 08:16 AM
A least we can always rely on Cesaro and Kevin Owens.
henryeatscereal
09-01-2015, 09:01 AM
^The feud is what's saving RAW lately...
As for Sasha jobbing to Paige: I prefer Sasha over Paige, but at least Paige is talented and it makes some sense, i would be offended if Sasha jobs to Alicia Fox or Brie.
thevoid99
09-01-2015, 01:48 PM
^The feud is what's saving RAW lately...
As for Sasha jobbing to Paige: I prefer Sasha over Paige, but at least Paige is talented and it makes some sense, i would be offended if Sasha jobs to Alicia Fox or Brie.
Agreed yet I would be more offended if she would job to Nikki or.... ugh.... Botch-marie.
onthewall2983
09-01-2015, 01:54 PM
Jimmy Snuka charged with the 1983 murder of his girlfriend (http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-jimmy-snuka-grand-jury-announcement-20150901-story.html).
Conan The Barbarian
09-01-2015, 03:36 PM
Jesus, whats next, Bret Hart in sex ring scandal?
thevoid99
09-01-2015, 10:14 PM
Actually, I knew about that for years. What took so long?
gorast
09-01-2015, 10:19 PM
The case was re-opened in 2013, and now he's been formally charged with the crime. He was never charged before, reportedly because Vince passed him off as a non-English speaking savage to get the cops off his back. It was only re-opened because someone did an investigative piece in 2013 about it and stirred up interest in, you know, doing actual police work for once.
Honestly, he deserves it. His story is bullshit and it's really obvious that, for whatever reason or in whatever fit of rage, he killed his girlfriend.
thevoid99
09-01-2015, 11:12 PM
And there's rumors that if Vince was involved in the cover-up. He might be implicated as an accessory to murder.
richardp
09-02-2015, 11:01 AM
So the two main events at the WWE Returns to MSG event are Jericho vs. Owens and Lesnar vs. Big Show.
One of these will be fantastic. The other will be a boring clunky mess.
henryeatscereal
09-02-2015, 11:32 AM
Not a good time to be an 80's wrestler...
Still, i'm glad they are after Snuka, he killed someone and he's still acknowledged (unlike Benoit), i guess now Tamina will stop using her last name.
Really? Thought it was supposed to be Lesnar/Dallas. Big Show ruins everything.
thevoid99
09-02-2015, 02:15 PM
I'm sick of the Big Chode. He's boring and just uninteresting. When fans are telling you to retire, it's fucking time to go. And now for something completely different....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8UY7Cad5eY
gorast
09-02-2015, 03:50 PM
I'm disappointed because Lesnar has faced exactly six people since his 2012 return - Cena, HHH, CM Punk, Show, Rollins, and Kofi Kingston. He's now only faced Punk and Kofi once, where the others have all fought him at least twice. This was a good opportunity to get opponent number 7 in there, and they're wasting it on Show. Lame.
Jericho vs. Owens will be fantastic, though.
Swykk
09-02-2015, 07:38 PM
Did Eva Marie just botch a kick out? And then do Sliced Bread in slo-mo?! Yeeeeeeeesh, that was a wet fart and the crowd let her have it.
thevoid99
09-02-2015, 10:16 PM
Did Eva Marie just botch a kick out? And then do Sliced Bread in slo-mo?! Yeeeeeeeesh, that was a wet fart and the crowd let her have it.
Yeah, I heard about that weeks ago. How the fuck do botch a fucking kick-out? I really hope NXT management or someone fucking chewed her out for that. They should fire her. All of those chances they gave her and all of that hype and for what? She's just material for Botchamania.
@12:49-I just read this article about Nikki Bella: http://www.cagesideseats.com/2015/9/3/9252717/nikki-bella-is-the-true-antichrist-of-professional-wrestling
I just found out that her mother is going to marry John Laurinaitis. Oh fuck. That means Nikki will probably do whatever to be the Diva's champ and bury everyone with the help of overrated boyfriend and idiotic stepfather.
gorast
09-03-2015, 12:27 AM
Does Laurinaitis even have a major role with the company anymore? Haitch took over his talent relations position.
thevoid99
09-03-2015, 12:57 AM
He's involved as a road agent but I'm sure he's still buddy-buddy with Vince. At least Nikki and Brie's mother isn't marrying Kevin Dunn.
henryeatscereal
09-03-2015, 09:13 AM
The article that @thevoid99 (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=254) posted is an interesting read, it's funny that Nikki's mother is "casually" getting married to Laurinaitis, i'm not saying that they don't love each other, but that relationship says a lot of the whole Bellas clan.
I never "hated" them, but it's clear to me that they are very average (Nikki being the most untalented of the two) and that they got handed everything on a silver platter.
When Nikki won the title most of us where like: "whatever", we had lost faith in the Divas Division and the talent was very low anyway (with few exceptions like AJ and Natalya).
Now that we have a "revolution" (not really started by Steph...), it's clear that Nikki HAS TO drop the strap and the fact that she wants to "carry the division" like a female John Cena, makes her look even worse, i wouldn't go as far as calling her "the Antichrist" (god nows wrestling has had worse people with backstage and political power), but she's surely holding the division down (her untalented sister too...).
Swykk
09-05-2015, 08:42 AM
I've disliked them from the start. They're very limited in the ring and neither can cut a promo to save their lives. Then, I learned of their politicking (namely barring Maria from WWE) and despised them from then on. Maybe Brie loves Danielson and that's fine but I just feel like Nikki is the absolute worst and probably sticks with Cena for the power.
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