Underneath It All: A Nine Inch Nails Podcast

[OSLIN]

Just wanted to open an official thread on ETS.

Underneath It All: A Nine Inch Nails Podcast
Hosted and created by @KarenLeslie (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=2818) on these very boards. With contributions from @Toadflax (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=669), @OSLIN (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1033) and @eversonpoe (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=588).
This podcast was created for and by fans of Nine Inch Nails.

We welcome all advice on how to improve the show,
which you can share in this thread or visit our new official site www.underneathitall.org to leave a comment under the "contact" link.

Visit the official site (http://www.underneathitall.org) to listen/download any episode for free!

Now available on iTunes (http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/underneath-it-all-nine-inch/id721681606?mt=2)!


Thanks and enjoy!

[thepresence0]

Really digging the show so far! I co-run a weekly tech podcast myself called The Menu Bar: http://www.themenubar.net

I've thought about doing a NiN podcast for ages, but assumed the audience would be too small or we'd run out of things to talk about. Glad to see someone else is finally just doing it and seeing what happens.

Anyways, just wanted to say great job and keep it up. Also, why can't I subscribe in iTunes yet? :)

[OSLIN]

Anyways, just wanted to say great job and keep it up. Also, why can't I subscribe in iTunes yet? :)
I agree and hope to have the show on iTunes by the next episode. Thanks for the kind words!

[ManBurning]

Great episode 2 guys! I'm very shocked that all your top 5's were all different! There were no duplicate's between the 3 of you, that's quite interesting how that worked out.

Funny thing is, my list is almost a combination of all 3 of yours' mixed together, minus 1 song.
It would look a little something like this:

1. AATCHB
2. The Perfect Drug
3. Sunspots
4. WITT
5. Happiness In Slavery

Coincidently, I want to hear all of these preformed live and they are the songs that are least likely to ever be played now. I hope, as mentioned in the podcast, with the new "electronic" setup some of these songs actually make an appearance, because if it's anytime these are likely to be played, it's going to be with the setup they have now.

FYI - The CD single you were thinking of that TPD was on was in fact the We're In This Together single. It was split into 3 parts (the WITT single) and one of the parts had WITT, Complications Of The Flesh and The Perfect Drug as songs on it.

[OSLIN]

You can also talk about the show on reddit, to spread the word.
http://www.reddit.com/tb/1mn0wo

@ManBurning (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=33)
Thanks buddy and it was a pleasant surprise, we all went in without any knowledge of each others list. I definitely think all the songs on your list deserve to be played live.

[OSLIN]

We would like to hear your ideas for any future NIN podcast. Just visit www.underneathitall.org (http://www.underneathitall.org) and follow the "submission" link. Thanks!

[OSLIN]

Episode Two: That's What I List (http://www.underneathitall.org) Available now

Karen (KarenLeslie on ETS), Brian (Toadflax) and Jeff (OSLIN) return to discuss some of their favorite Nine Inch Nails tracks.
Thanks to Maxwell (eversonpoe) for editing and audio.

Let us know what you think. What are some of your favorite NIN songs?

[OSLIN]

Episode three will be a discussion on Pretty Hate Machine. What do you like/dislike about NIN's first album?

Episode 2 is available now on www.underneathitall.org

Thanks for listening!

[tony.parente]

This is absoutely fucking brilliant.
Top notch.

nin fans > everything (pun sort of intended)

[OSLIN]

With the upcoming Nine Inch Nails Tension Tour beginning in less then a week we would like you to share your audio reviews of the shows you've attended here:

ninpodcast@underneathitall.org

Then listen and watch the podcast to hear your reviews.

Thanks for contributing and listening!

[Al_Hunter]

Hi, a couple of points I wanted to make. I've listened to nearly all of the first episode now and wanted to say the content was excellent - I've not had the pleasure of listening to much in the way of music podcasts, but the one I have listened to have generally been a bit dull - you've done enough to make it entertaining without becoming preachy.

The only criticism I have is the sound quality - it may be because of the Skype link or whatever software was used to record it, but the sound quality is really poor particularly towards the end of that first episode. Not sure if this is something you might be able to resolve - it sounds like a really, really low bitrate of compression on the recording, the voices start sounding tinny... just not very pleasant. The only other thing is is the second episode not going through the same channels as the first re: distribution? I updated my RSS feed and it won't show the second episode and for some reason my phone won't download it either... did you use audio clips on it by any chance? I know one other podcast I tried out wasn't downloadable due to copyright issues with having audio clips included in the recording.

Hope the above doesn't come across as too critical - you've got a great idea and some solid foundations to build on. Hope the audio quality can improve a little :)

[OSLIN]

Yeah, we're working out all the kinks. Not sure why you're having trouble downloading the second cast. You could listen straight from the soundcloud app. We are attempting to get hooked up to itunes by next episode. Bare with us as we trudge ahead and thanks for listening.

[OSLIN]

Want to voice your opinion on NIN's Pretty Hate Machine for the next podcast? PM me or KarenLeslie for details.

Thanks!

[OSLIN]

Episode 3 of the Underneath It All podcast will be a discussion on @nineinchnails (https://twitter.com/nineinchnails) debut album Pretty Hate Machine. http://www.underneathitall.org (http://t.co/zb9RaYHRq7)
8:09 AM - 25 Sep 2013 (https://twitter.com/NINPodcast/statuses/382839381821636608)

[thelordoflard]

Love the podcast guys. Would love to hear more voices on the show too! I would love jump on board myself but I'm busy as hell these days. Keep it up!

[KarenLeslie]

Last call guys, we're recording episode 3 this Saturday at 10 a.m. EST and we could use another PHM lover (or hater?) to join us. If you're available, would like to be on the podcast, and have strong feelings about PHM one way or the other, please shoot me a PM and we'll see if we can add you. Preferably, we'd like someone younger than the 31-club thing we have going on, but the main criteria for inclusion is being passionate about PHM.

[Mark Fraser]

Love the show. One MINOR issue with the music samples.

To me at least, it sounded like the volume of the music stayed the same throughout the entire sample. If you are going to take through the latter portion of the sample, I think it would be a good idea to drastically reduce the volume once talking comes in. I found the loud music to be a bit distracting.

Other than that, the show was fucking tits. I would love to be on the fragile or with teeth episode whenever that comes to fruition.

[eversonpoe]

Love the show. One MINOR issue with the music samples.

To me at least, it sounded like the volume of the music stayed the same throughout the entire sample. If you are going to take through the latter portion of the sample, I think it would be a good idea to drastically reduce the volume once talking comes in. I found the loud music to be a bit distracting.

Other than that, the show was fucking tits. I would love to be on the fragile or with teeth episode whenever that comes to fruition.

it definitely DOES NOT stay the same during the entire sample. i made sure to very carefully automate level changes, especially if there's a part where the music gets even louder. i'll even post a screen-cap of my ProTools session if you don't believe me :p

but i guess i'll scale it back for next time. you're the first person (that i know of) who has said that, but i definitely want the music clips to enhance the podcast, not detract from it.

[hellospaceboy]

I love the podcast, I only had a chance to listen to the 2nd episode, and while I wasn't that excited about the topic initially (top 5) I really enjoyed it!

[Trains]

Listened to the whole of the 1st episode, really enjoyed the whole thing. I don't have any friends who are into NIN, so I found it really interesting to listen in on you guys discussing the new record, especially since you're all able to articulate your opinions so well. I was kinda smiling to myself at how much depth you were going into when discussing the songs, relating it back to TDS and all, felt like I was listening to an audio version of an ETS thread. :)

Really good stuff, I'll be sticking around for more!

[OSLIN]

If you were at the St. Paul show, send the nin podcast Underneath It All a video/audio review of the show to our email ninpodcast@underneathitall.org

You can also visit the site Underneath It All (http://www.underneathitall.org/) and contact us through that. I love what I'm hearing and fans around the world would love to hear what you're thinking of the current NIN shows.

Thanks!

[OSLIN]

If you were at the Kansas City show last night, send the Underneath It All podcast a video/audio review of the show to our email ninpodcast@underneathitall.org

You can also visit the site Underneath It All (http://www.underneathitall.org/) and contact us through that. I think fans who don't have the opportunity to see NIN live would love to hear your feedback on the show.

Thanks!

[demo]

this made me think about my favorite songs... and I realized some of my favorite songs are the versions that I edited myself. (example: In This Twilight - extended outro, Head Down - 5.1 lol)

I love the conversation and I think it's been working well. Thanks for the show!

"It melts your fucking face" lol

[OSLIN]

If you were at the St. Louis show last night, send the Underneath It All podcast a video/audio review of the show to our email ninpodcast@underneathitall.org

You can also visit the site Underneath It All (http://www.underneathitall.org/) and contact us through that. It seems like a bunch of opinionated fans watched the show last night, so share your thoughts with us and you could hear yourself on the next podcast.

Thanks!

[OSLIN]

Episode Three: Bow Down is available now at these fine websites:

www.underneathitall.org (http://www.underneathitall.org)
https://soundcloud.com/ninpodcast/episode3

Karen, Brian and Maxwell discuss Nine Inch Nails debut album Pretty Hate Machine.

Trust me, I am working on getting this on iTunes, having trouble with the XML. This is shaping up to be a more permanent endeavor so if someone knows a nice (cheap) site to upload podcast for feeds shoot me a PM. TY.
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The next episode is up in the air right now, all I can tease is that we will be discussing Broken or we will have an ninterview ;)

[OSLIN]

The podcast is currently under review for iTunes. I want to tease the fourth episode so badly, but don't want to jinx it.

Episode 3 is available now on www.underneathitall.org (http://www.underneathitall.org)

[OSLIN]

You can now subscribe to the podcast on iTunes:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/underneath-it-all-nine-inch/id721681606?mt=2

Feel free to leave a rating/review. Thanks for listening!

Also, another update -- Episode One is currently being edited and will be re-released with Hesitation Marks songs included in the mix.

[rhet]

listened to the 3rd one and been really digging them! One of you mentioned (forget who) being from Lancaster PA and i just had to mention I too am from good ol' lancaster county.

[Toadflax]

listened to the 3rd one and been really digging them! One of you mentioned (forget who) being from Lancaster PA and i just had to mention I too am from good ol' lancaster county.

It was me! Where abouts? I was in Manheim Township for 18 glorious years.

[rhet]

It was me! Where abouts? I was in Manheim Township for 18 glorious years.

I grew up in Ephrata..looks like we both successfully escaped! :D

[Toadflax]

I grew up in Ephrata..looks like we both successfully escaped! :D

You escaped to London, though? You win.

[rhet]

You escaped to London, though? You win.

Hah! I got lucky.

i'll stop threadjacking now.

[thevoid99]

I finally listened to the 2nd and third one yesterday and I really enjoyed it. It's got some funny bits as well as some very informative stuff from a fan's perspective. Can't wait for the 4th episode.

[Toadflax]

Thanks for listening! Remember you can subscribe on iTunes now and never miss another episode. Plans for episode 4 (and maybe a bonus segment) are underway.

Oh! And if you've been to any shows on the Tension tour, send a text or audio review to nincast@live.com, and we may read or play your review on the show!

[OSLIN]

As @Toadflax (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=669) said the show is now available on iTunes. Episode 4 is due out next week and we will be discussing Broken/Fixed this time around. Thanks for listening and please review/rate the show if you have a minute. Thanks again and don't forget you can also listen for free on www.underneathitall.org (http://www.underneathitall.org) or www.soundcloud.com/ninpodcast (http://www.soundcloud.com/ninpodcast)

[jubilee]

what happened to episode 4?
Seriously you guys doing this are champions. This is the sort of conversation/podcast I need but unfortunately none of my friends (or indeed my brother who introduced me to NIN in a way) find the sort of depth of discussion I want about NIN to be not AT ALL interesting.
Philistines!
Please keep up the good work, I will continue refreshing the podcast on my iphone every fucking day!!!

[Toadflax]

Episode 4 has been recorded and is currently being edited! It will be up... soon.

[eversonpoe]

what happened to episode 4?

just edited it today! i'm currently listening to it as it bounces out of protools, and i think jeff is planning on putting it up this weekend.

[OSLIN]

Put on your elbow length black leather gloves, your dirtiest tanktop shorts and combat boots.. it's time to discuss Broken & Fixed on this episode of Underneath It All.

Episode Four is now available on www.underneathitall.org (http://www.underneathitall.org) - iTunes (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/.) - SoundCloud (http://www.soundcloud.com/ninpodcast/episode4)

Please rate/review on iTunes! We are always looking for new episode ideas so leave them in this thread or go here (http://www.underneathitall.org/contact.html) to directly contact the show. Thanks and enjoy!

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[OSLIN]

Follow us on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/ninpodcast) & Twitter (http://www.twitter.com/ninpodcast) to make sure you find out what surprises are coming up in the next few weeks!

Also, visit the official site www.underneathitall.org (http://www.underneathitall.org) to listen/download all previous episodes for free.

We are also on iTunes (http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/underneath-it-all-nine-inch/id721681606?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4) now, so subscribe and leave a review (we love feedback).



Thanks for listening!!!

[ethelkarma]

I found the podcast on iTunes a couple of weeks ago and am trying to catch up to the newest show. Your podcast is quickly becoming one of my favorites. I am having trouble getting through them in a timely fashion though. I am constantly finding myself stopping the show to go look up a video or listen to a song. One of you will say something and I'm like "oh yeah that is an awesome song I should listen to that right now" or "wow I forgot about that video I must watch it right now". Me and my short attention span.

[Toadflax]

I found the podcast on iTunes a couple of weeks ago and am trying to catch up to the newest show. Your podcast is quickly becoming one of my favorites. I am having trouble getting through them in a timely fashion though. I am constantly finding myself stopping the show to go look up a video or listen to a song. One of you will say something and I'm like "oh yeah that is an awesome song I should listen to that right now" or "wow I forgot about that video I must watch it right now". Me and my short attention span.

Thanks for the kind words! We'll take your short attention span as a compliment, too. If we can make you excited to go listen to Nine Inch Nails, then we're doing something right.

Where do we go from here? Episode Five. Consider this: we mix things up a bit. That's all the skinny I can share right now.

[OSLIN]

Richard Patrick (Filter) discusses his early career with Nine Inch Nails, his latest album The Sun Comes Out Tonight and why he creates music with host Karen Mead (@karenleslie of ETS).
Audio/Editing:Maxwell Shults (@eversonpoe of ETS)

www.underneathitall.org (http://www.underneathitall.org/)

Now Available on iTunes (http://itun.es/i6FS9j2)

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[rhet]

i've only gotten a chance to listen to half of it so far (so maybe its explained in the podcast) but i'd love to know how the interview with richard patrick came about. great stuff!

[Toadflax]

i've only gotten a chance to listen to half of it so far (so maybe its explained in the podcast) but i'd love to know how the interview with richard patrick came about. great stuff!

Apparently, making a website and recording yourselves rambling is all it takes for the pros to take you seriously. Well, that and some very fine finessing from OSLIN, who has done an amazing job at reaching out to people, people's people, etc. We might even have another surprise on the way, though I will artfully dodge any specifics...

[OSLIN]

rhet
I used my powers of persuasion and my short shorts. The rest is history.

[gorast]

@rhet (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=2633)
I used my powers of persuasion and my short shorts. The rest is history.

That's how Trent did it back in 89, after all.

Gonna listen tonight. You guys still taking guests to talk about future albums, or have you gotten too big for that now? ;)

[eversonpoe]

That's how Trent did it back in 89, after all.

Gonna listen tonight. You guys still taking guests to talk about future albums, or have you gotten too big for that now? ;)

we're always open to other contributors in the conversation, but no one else has been available when we've done our group discussions.

[gorast]

I've been kind of wanting to hop on for With Teeth and anything after. I should probably PM you or OSLIN about it instead of posting in here, though.

[thatguymark]

Nice work, guys. Karen, you did a fantastic job of drawing information out of Richard and getting out of the way while he told some great stories. I'll certainly never look at "Piggy" the same way again. :) Prior to this, my opinion of the guy came from that Industrial Uprising documentary. Based on that, I thought he'd over-valued his contribution to the band and that it was sad how he was holding on to his idealized memories of what happened. After hearing his side of that interview and hearing how he actually discussed things in a long-form interview, I can see I was wrong. He seems like a good dude. So, yeah, thanks for that.

[thevoid99]

That was a great interview. I thought Rich was funny. Especially the story about getting the credit for a song but not the publishing. Malm was a dick. I like Richard Patrick and he's a cool dude. I'm glad things w/ him and Trent are cool. I would love to be a fly on the wall on the day Rich accidentally Trent's speakers.

[KarenLeslie]

Nice work, guys. Karen, you did a fantastic job of drawing information out of Richard and getting out of the way while he told some great stories. I'll certainly never look at "Piggy" the same way again. :) Prior to this, my opinion of the guy came from that Industrial Uprising documentary. Based on that, I thought he'd over-valued his contribution to the band and that it was sad how he was holding on to his idealized memories of what happened. After hearing his side of that interview and hearing how he actually discussed things in a long-form interview, I can see I was wrong. He seems like a good dude. So, yeah, thanks for that.

Thanks. I felt bad hearing about what happened to Patrick and Vrenna with that documentary; sounds like they told them both "we want to talk to you about your music!" and then blindsided them by only asking NIN questions. "Dick move" doesn't even begin to cover it. If nothing else, I'm glad that info is out there now so NIN fans will know not to buy that documentary (not that it's exactly burning up the charts in the first place.)



Especially the story about getting the credit for a song but not the publishing. Malm was a dick.

Maybe I'm just being a Reznor-apologist, but I think most of Richard Patrick being treated so badly during that period was probably John Malm's fault. I imagine Trent was busy recording TDS and wasn't really paying much attention, even though he should have been.

[tony.parente]

That was a great interview. I thought Rich was funny. Especially the story about getting the credit for a song but not the publishing. Malm was a dick. I like Richard Patrick and he's a cool dude. I'm glad things w/ him and Trent are cool. I would love to be a fly on the wall on the day Rich accidentally Trent's speakers.

Rich accidentally the WHOLE speaker.

[greenbaymackey]

Are there any updates you can give us about episode 6? I love the podcast and I'm eagerly awaiting whatever subject the next episode is about... TDS, maybe?

[Toadflax]

Episode 6 will be a discussion of the Tension 2013 tour. Halo 8 will be discussed in episode 8...

[OSLIN]

Episode 7? We will just have to wait and see...

[greenbaymackey]

Sounds great! Thanks guys.

[ethelkarma]

So excited that the next podcast will be a discussion of Tension 2013. It was an awesome tour, I wish I could see it again and again. I hope there will be an official tour video released. It totally blew me away and I can't wait to hear what you thought of it.

[eversonpoe]

Edited episode 6 today. Took me way less time than usual, which was nice! Hope you all enjoy it when it goes up (tomorrow?)

[OSLIN]

Episode Six - Releasing Tension is now available on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/underneath-it-all-nine-inch/id721681606?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4) and www.underneathitall.org (http://www.underneathitall.org)!

UIA discuss NIN's Tension Tour, TV appearances and what the future may hold. Please upvote on nin reddit too! http://redd.it/1s5rpl

Enjoy!

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[rhet]

just finished listening..another great episode! also that photo is sexy.

[ethelkarma]

So excited that the next podcast will be a discussion of Tension 2013. It was an awesome tour, I wish I could see it again and again. I hope there will be an official tour video released. It totally blew me away and I can't wait to hear what you thought of it.

Looking forward to getting my copy of Tension in the spring.

[thatguymark]

Another solid episode. Tiny constructive criticism - background music is good for transitions or when it specifically complements what you're discussing, but when the entire discussion is over a bed of music, it's a little distracting for me, personally. Either way, I'm enjoying these discussions and am really looking forward to whatever surprises await in future episodes.

[eversonpoe]

Another solid episode. Tiny constructive criticism - background music is good for transitions or when it specifically complements what you're discussing, but when the entire discussion is over a bed of music, it's a little distracting for me, personally. Either way, I'm enjoying these discussions and am really looking forward to whatever surprises await in future episodes.

i've found when editing that it's actually more distracting when there's an absence of music after the music has already been established. for example, during some of our album review episodes, the discussion of a song goes on longer than the song itself, and then we're plunged into a gap, and that sounds way more off-putting to me than having the music in there...but that's just me. however, if enough people (and my podcast cohorts) tell me that having constant music is beginning to be truly detrimental, i will definitely work on scaling it back to accommodate everyone's preferences.

god damn, that was wordy. this is why i'm the editor and not a regular co-host.

[pwing47]

This latest episode was actually the first time I thought the background music/vocals were just slightly loud -- not overpowering, but maybe competing with your voices just a bit too much. Perhaps a happy middle-ground could be to use instrumental tracks when discussion is happening (unless you happen to be talking about songs/albums, in which case those should probably complement the discussion). Seems like there is a healthy amount of content to pull from for awhile, esp. considering the YZ and TS instrumentals are technically available.

In either case, I think you've all done a wonderful job with the podcast so far -- keep up the great work! It's been an absolute joy to listen to during the workday. :)

[OSLIN]

With the end of the current NIN tour, go listen to our latest episode about Tension 2013 at www.underneathitall.org.

It is also available on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/underneath-it-all-nine-inch/id721681606?mt=2&uo=4&at=11lb9P), please rate/review!

Episode Seven will be available "soon", it will be an interview that relates to TDS :)

Thanks for supporting us and we hope to have many more exciting episodes coming your way in 2014.

[OSLIN]

Episode 7 - Cargo in the Blood: An Interview with Russell Mills is now available!!!

Russell Mills discusses his career, influences, along with his past and current work with Nine Inch Nails on Underneath It All.

Listen or download for free from www.underneathitall.org (http://www.underneathitall.org) or iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/underneath-it-all-nine-inch/id721681606?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4).

[pwing47]

Just listened to the new episode. Great interview! My only gripe is that it was too short :)

Also very cool to hear about the Cargo in the Blood art compilation. Would love to get my hands on one of these (sounded like there will be 2500, based on what he said about the giant canvas piece).

[OSLIN]

Up vote on reddit (http://redd.it/1umx5o)!

Rate or review the podcast on iTunes (http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/underneath-it-all-nine-inch/id721681606?mt=2&ign-mpt=uo%3D4).

We also love hearing feedback on www.underneathitall.org

Thank you for the support!

[rhet]

just listened, great interview!

[AlanMorlock]

Wow fantastic work! Its great what you all have been able to put together with this podcast.

[OSLIN]

Just recorded the first part of the TDS review with a special guest Ryan from RITC. Hope to have it up by this weekend!

[OSLIN]

Episode 8 - Nothing Can Stop Us Now is available!!!
The cast is joined by special guest Ryan Jonik of Reflecting in the Chrome (a site archiving live NIN recordings from the past 20 years). The discussion includes an outpouring of NIN news, RITC and the first five tracks off The Downward Spiral.


Listen or download for free from www.underneathitall.org (http://www.underneathitall.org) or iTunes.


Also, visit www.reflectinginthechrome.com (http://www.reflectinginthechrome.com) for all your NIN live listening needs.

[barkhammer]

Episode 8 - Nothing Can Stop Us Now is available!!!
The cast are joined by special guest Ryan Jonik of Reflecting in the Chrome (a site archiving live NIN recordings from the past 20 years). The discussion includes an outpouring of NIN news, RITC and the first five tracks off The Downward Spiral.


Listen or download for free from www.underneathitall.org (http://www.underneathitall.org) or iTunes.


Also, visit www.reflectinginthechrome.com (http://www.reflectinginthechrome.com) for all your NIN live listening needs.

Thanks - really enjoying these discussions.

One suggestion though - 209MB for a 90min podcast is a bit much especially if downloading or streaming away from a wifi network. Most podcasts have a bitrate of < 128kbps which is more than enough quality for spoken word.

[eversonpoe]

Thanks - really enjoying these discussions.

One suggestion though - 209MB for a 90min podcast is a bit much especially if downloading or streaming away from a wifi network. Most podcasts have a bitrate of < 128kbps which is more than enough quality for spoken word.

i totally understand what you mean...

i would be willing to go down to 160kbps (right now i'm doing 320kbps), but we also have music in there under the talking, and compressing it down to 128kbps would make not only the dialogue sound pretty bad, but the music would sound awful. i take pride in the amount of time and energy i put into editing the episodes and making them sound as good as possible, and i don't want the bitrate compression to overly affect that. but i also don't want people to be discouraged from downloading/listening to it...

also, seriously big thanks to @RITCNIN (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1141) for joining in the discussion!!!

[sheepdean]

Actually remembered to listen to this one right away! Good show, enjoyable interview :)

And I want to disagree with you guys on so many things on interpretations, but that's part of the fun :P

[ninlive]

And I want to disagree with you guys on so many things on interpretations, but that's part of the fun :P

I don't know what I'm talking about.

[elevenism]

I looked into making the podcasts into a roku channel, but it costs like $100 a month. HOWEVEr, in the rare event that we can get together 20 roku users who are interested in the podcast to donate $5 a month, shiiiiit.

The podcast would reach a LOT of people. It could become THE Nin podcast. Hell, it might already be,,,i'm just checking into this

[eversonpoe]

I looked into making the podcasts into a roku channel, but it costs like $100 a month. HOWEVEr, in the rare event that we can get together 20 roku users who are interested in the podcast to donate $5 a month, shiiiiit.

The podcast would reach a LOT of people. It could become THE Nin podcast. Hell, it might already be,,,i'm just checking into this

technically, it is THE nin podcast, as we're the only people who make one. but we didn't want to be greedy, so we called it "a nin podcast"

also, i should be editing the next episode some time in the next couple days.

[KarenLeslie]

What's a roku channel?

[OSLIN]

Episode 9 - We Are Still Right Here is available now for your listening pleasure.

The crew discuss the remaining tracks on TDS and remixes from the era.

www.underneathitall.org

[OSLIN]

and also available on

www.fart.com

[icecream]

I just listened to all the episodes in a matter of days. Very good podcast. Loved the Richard Patrick and Russell Mills, just need Rob Sheridan to complete a triple R name interview trilogy.

[Toadflax]

Thanks! Would love to interview Rob.

[sheepdean]

Interview zombie jeff ward for hallowe'en

[Toadflax]

Hey, now...

[OSLIN]

Hey pigs,

As some of you may know, a couple of us from this very board got together to do a little podcast dedicated to all things NIN. We have had the opportunity to review some great albums and interview some awesome guests (Richard Patrick & Russell Mills).

We will soon be interviewing Lisa Fischer (http://lisafischermusic.com/), as most of you know she sang back-up for NIN during the Tension Tour. She's also sung back-up for The Rolling Stones, Tina Turner, Luther Vandross and many, many more. She's had quite a solo career too.

We thought it would be fun (interesting) to have a couple questions from the fans, so leave your question in this thread or visit www.underneathitall.org (http://underneathitall.org/contact.html) to send us a question for Miss Fischer.

Thanks for participating and listening!

Underneath It All: A Nine Inch Nails Podcast Crew KarenLeslie Toadflax OSLIN eversonpoe

[implanted_microchip]

Questions: What was it like approaching material like Nine Inch Nails, which as a whole has a harsher and heavier tone than so many other projects you've worked on? Was it an easy band and headspace to slip into, or did it requiring a burning in period? Was it daunting to approach a band like NIN, which has had such a long-standing career and proven fanbase, yet never seen female backup singers as part of the lineup, or was it an exciting process to try something so new and have it received so enthusiastically?

[thatguymark]

I'd like to know if she was worried about a potential negative fan reaction to introducing backup singers into Nine Inch Nails since it had never been done before. As far as I can tell, the reaction turned out to be overwhelmingly positive, but it was definitely a risky move. Has there been any talk of Lisa rejoining the band in the future? Has she ever felt like she was in over her head in rehearsals (with NIN or anyone else)?

[Jordan]

First- BIG thanks to Lisa Fischer! Lisa Fischer and Sharlotte Gibson added such an incredibly cool and interesting element to Nine Inch Nails. I am so glad I had the opportunity to experience their amazing talent live. Wow!

My question for Miss Fischer would be, what are her top 3 favorite NIN songs to perform live? Thanks

[thevoid99]

My question would be the rehearsal process and how different it was working with NIN in comparison to the Rolling Stones?

[Jordan]

Did the Underneath It All Podcast go out of business or something?

[eversonpoe]

Did the Underneath It All Podcast go out of business or something?

no, but there have been various delays due to personal issues, and toadflax is out of town, vacationing in europe at the moment.
we'll be back soon, i promise!

[Toadflax]

no, but there have been various delays due to personal issues, and toadflax is out of town, vacationing in europe at the moment.
we'll be back soon, i promise!

What he said!

[OSLIN]

We will be back with a new episode soon. Then we will be discussing The Fragile over a couple episodes. Also, we have yet to speak with Lisa Fischer, but I have heard from her publicist. She will speak with us once her tour with the Rolling Stones is done next month :)

[icecream]

Have you done the interview? I was wondering how much of the setlist is decided by Trent and how much is decided from other members of the band?

[greenbaymackey]

I just re-listened to the album discussion episodes over the last few days. It's a lot of fun to listen to you guys talk about an album and then immediately listen to the album. I figured since it's been a few months I would ask for an update. Are you still planning on recording new episodes?

[implanted_microchip]

Seriously, you guys are still going to keep this going, right? I've enjoyed all of the episodes and it felt like you were all really getting into the swing of things.

Although to be fair I guess it's a rite of passage for any NIN-related project to go through its "soon" phase.

[simonn]

My question for Lisa - did she know Tension was a one-leg deal, or was her removal from post-Tension shows a shock? And if the latter, was she told by Trent face to face, or other means? (enquiring minds want to know, and all that, but let me also say, I loved her input on this unique tour).

[eversonpoe]

several members of the podcast have had family stuff going on, (including oslin's new kid!), so we just haven't found the time to sit down and do another episode...but we still want to keep it going!

[telee.kom]

Soo.. what's up? I really liked this podcast. I tried the other one (Throw this away I think), but that doesn't really do it for me, I think yours was very professional and entertaining

[eversonpoe]

several members of the podcast have had family stuff going on, (including oslin's new kid!), so we just haven't found the time to sit down and do another episode...but we still want to keep it going!


Soo.. what's up? I really liked this podcast. I tried the other one (Throw this away I think), but that doesn't really do it for me, I think yours was very professional and entertaining

same story as before...just waiting to get the band back together, so to speak.

[OSLIN]

We will be back one way or another. I vow it. That's a little over dramatic but it is going to happen. We all started getting busy and it kind of was set on the back burner. We will be starting back up and it will be better then you can imagine or... just like you imagined? Soon pigs, soon.

[implanted_microchip]

Did this die out for good? The intro remix you guys put together just popped up on a Fragile remix playlist I have and reminded me of it. It seemed like you all had a pretty great dynamic and diverse enough views on things to bring a lot to the table.

[Toadflax]

Did this die out for good? The intro remix you guys put together just popped up on a Fragile remix playlist I have and reminded me of it. It seemed like you all had a pretty great dynamic and diverse enough views on things to bring a lot to the table.

Thanks for the kind words. I assure you we are still trying to bring more episodes to life, but several personal issues and time constraints are keeping us from getting this done as quickly as we'd like. You have not heard the last of us. We are still right here.

[jubilee]

Seriously hope you all put out another episode soon. I've been an avid listener since ep.1 and have realy enjoyed your insights and comments to the point that I've repeat listened to every episode approx 3 times when I'm in the mood for some NIN discussion. Karen, can I say you are a great host (along with the rest of you), no need to be so nervous :)

[OSLIN]

http://youtu.be/r5LnTCT8FAU

We are returning this April with Episode 10: The Big Comeback which features an in-depth interview with NIN hotline creator and ETS master supreme Matt Dunphy aka Leviathant.

Stay Tuned for more updates

And a special thanks to Joshua Wylie for creating an awesome teaser!

[Toadflax]

All Hotlined Up! Excited to be back, all. More episodes to follow shortly, we PROMISE.

[gorast]

A year and two weeks (give or take), that's a hell of a hiatus.

Glad it's coming back though. The new episodes will still be pushed through iTunes, right?

[implanted_microchip]

A year and two weeks (give or take), that's a hell of a hiatus.

It's shockingly fitting for a NIN-related fan project though, you've gotta hand that to them.

[OSLIN]

It's too bad this thing isn't streamed live with the option of phone-in questions. I'd totally call and put Levi on the spot about that ETS chatroom he keeps avoiding

That is definitely something we will look into for future episodes.

[OSLIN]

It's shockingly fitting for a NIN-related fan project though, you've gotta hand that to them.

And it came in between The Downward Spiral and The Fragile reviews.
How fitting.

[implanted_microchip]

And it came in between The Downward Spiral and The Fragile reviews. How fitting.

You guys could just say you were busy producing a Marilyn Manson podcast inbetween episodes!

[OSLIN]

You guys could just say you were busy producing a Marilyn Manson podcast inbetween episodes!

Or one episode of a Lost Highway podcast in which we talk aimlessly for 2 hours while somebody plays the sax frantically.

[OSLIN]

Episode 10: The Big Comeback is available now!
We talk to Matt Dunphy (creator of The NIN Hotline) @ leviathant to discuss the hotline, ETS, his stories involving NIN and much, much more.

www.underneathitall.org (http://www.underneathitall.org)

We are also available on iTunes.

[hellospaceboy]

Greatly enjoyed the last episode! Good to have you guys back!

[elevenism]

i got a big kick out of you guys interviewing Leviathant

[Toadflax]

ATTENTION ETS! We are looking for new voices to add to the podcast! If you are interested in being in a future episode, shoot me a PM with a little about yourself, and we can go from there. Thanks!

http://underneathitall.org/

[icecream]

Glad the show is back! I want to be Levi when I grow up <3

[Toadflax]

Glad the show is back! I want to be Levi when I grow up <3

Episodes 11 and 12 coming at you Left and Right this summer.

[OSLIN]

Episode 11 - Left (Cold & Gray)
We discuss the Left side of NIN's The Fragile with special guest @sheepdean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=350)

www.underneathitall.org (http://www.underneathitall.org/)

We are also available on iTunes.

[sheepdean]

Episode 11 - Left (Cold & Gray)
We discuss the Left side of NIN's The Fragile with special guest @sheepdean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=350)

www.underneathitall.org (http://www.underneathitall.org/)

We are also available on iTunes.
yay I'm famous

[nineinchnerd]

yay I'm famous

Can you guys discuss what you'd like to see in a new NIN song or record. Would listen to that episode with bated ear holes.

[eversonpoe]

Can you guys discuss what you'd like to see in a new NIN song or record. Would listen to that episode with bated ear holes.

no, because it would be a 30-minute circle-jerk.

[seasonsinthesky]

This one was awesome.

Gotta say I like when you have more than 3 people on, though. I realize this is dependent on interest and scheduling and one should avoid overcomplicating with lots of people, but maybe like... 1 more in there.

[Toadflax]

This one was awesome.

Gotta say I like when you have more than 3 people on, though. I realize this is dependent on interest and scheduling and one should avoid overcomplicating with lots of people, but maybe like... 1 more in there.

Agreed. This one would have been even longer with a 4th, but we're definitely trying to get some more voices in the mix.

[implanted_microchip]

Awesome episode, looking forward to the next one covering Right.

Would just like to say though that you guys all discussed how Pilgrimage might have been written as a song to bridge a gap between songs, which I don't really think is likely at all considering that those two alternate potential tracklistings we're aware of that were being considered before the album was finished had Pilgrimage listed as the ending on both. I've always seen it as something of a victory march for something inherently negative (lots of people have mentioned it bringing Nazi imagery to mind, and the frantic chanting and shouting at the end definitely feels like some winning force of destruction cheering), and with it being a possible ending thematically it could very well be the idea of making a pilgrimage into darkness/hopelessness so to speak, giving in and entering into this new, fucked up version of things that so much of The Fragile seems to be about, with arriving at that raw, ugly place at the end that you were in from the beginning. It's like submitting/succumbing to that side of things. Just my take on it. Regardless I doubt it was ever meant as an interlude/bridge of sorts. It's definitely a full-fledged, stand-alone or singular track that isn't dependent on any others and meant as that.

@sheepdean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=350) good God that Just Like You Imagined trivia was something I have never heard before, where'd you find that out? Any way of getting the levels correct and uploading it to YT or somewhere for people to hear it? I know there's that segment of the song with sort of sped up, distorted or chopped up vocals kind of whispered, is that the part?

[Ryan]

What's this about JLYI?

[seasonsinthesky]

@sheepdean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=350) good God that Just Like You Imagined trivia was something I have never heard before, where'd you find that out? Any way of getting the levels correct and uploading it to YT or somewhere for people to hear it? I know there's that segment of the song with sort of sped up, distorted or chopped up vocals kind of whispered, is that the part?

What's this about JLYI?
00:38, when the drums and bass come in. Whispered but with heavy delay, so it bounces left and right.

It's easier to hear on the AATCHB DVD (00:33ish in that case). It's a lot more present and bouncy.

[eversonpoe]

FINALLY have the next episode ready to go, as soon as it finishes bouncing out of ProTools.

took me over 6 hours to edit, but it's a good one! hopefully OSLIN will be able to get it up before the end of the week.

[OSLIN]

Episode 12 - Right (with Decay)
We discuss the Right side of NIN's The Fragile with special guest @sheepdean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=350)
We also talk about some remixes and Still.

www.underneathitall.org (http://www.underneathitall.org/)

We are also available on iTunes.

[seasonsinthesky]

Enjoyable discussion as usual, gentlemen.

I can't believe you are so into the transition between "Starfuckers" and "Complication," though. That and the one from SD to TDTWWA are two of the worst things about the TF running order; obviously C and SFI are conceptually related – C basically sounds like a cocaine party – but the non-musical (i.e. rhythmically nonsensical) transition is just stupid imo. They are very much smushed together for the continuity rather than musical sense, and it's very forced (arguably the point, though!).

[botley]

It is a little bit annoying to shift so rapidly between those songs, even if conceptually correct (gotta disagree on "Somewhat Damaged" into "TDtWWA", though, because that is a ballin' segue). The B-side version of "Starfuckers" from Halo 13 that fades into crowd noise before "Complication" starts — albeit in a shorter, teased form — feels more like a natural juxtaposition.

[raptors661]

I replaced the B-side version with the version on the Right side. I never liked that abrupt ending. Complication now has a slight fade in.

[barkhammer]

Episode 12 - Right (with Decay)
We discuss the Right side of NIN's The Fragile with special guest @sheepdean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=350)
We also talk about some remixes and Still.

www.underneathitall.org (http://www.underneathitall.org/)

We are also available on iTunes.

Great episode guys - probably the best yet.

Particularly enjoyed the encyclopedic observations from sheepdean !

[newmodel87]

I think the transition of "Starfuckers, Inc" into "Complication" is not terrible but not great either.

On a side note regarding "Starfuckers, Inc.":

I took the first two minutes or so of the Charlie Clouser mix of on Things Falling Apart and made it into a intro/precursor to the album version of "Starfuckers, Inc.". I just loved the intro of that mix and the part where the track breaks down I think fits perfectly into the beginning of "Starfuckers, Inc."

I was going to experiment with the ending of the song as well but have not gotten around to it yet.

[Toadflax]

Great episode guys - probably the best yet.

Particularly enjoyed the encyclopedic observations from @sheepdean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=350) !

Thanks! Yeah, sheepdean is a knowledge beast.

[gorast]

I'm having this problem with iTunes where the most recent podcast episode never plays right - right now, it says that the current episode is 3 hours, 35 minutes long (which is ridiculous, obviously), and it never remembers exactly where I am if I pause and restart. Is anyone else encountering this? It doesn't happen with any other feed I have.

[seasonsinthesky]

(gotta disagree on "Somewhat Damaged" into "TDtWWA", though, because that is a ballin' segue)

Wanna expand on this for me?

Everyone else too, obviously, but botley just... knows the way to explain himself really well.

[BRoswell]

I took the first two minutes or so of the Charlie Clouser mix of on Things Falling Apart and made it into a intro/precursor to the album version of "Starfuckers, Inc.". I just loved the intro of that mix and the part where the track breaks down I think fits perfectly into the beginning of "Starfuckers, Inc."

Hmm, this sounds interesting. I'm going to have to try this myself.

[botley]

Wanna expand on this for me?

Everyone else too, obviously, but botley just... knows the way to explain himself really well.
Thank you! I'd say that the ending of "Somewhat Damaged" is really over-the-top in its aggressive, spiteful rage... it's the epitome of a trademark NIN assault. From the simmering, almost polite beginning of the album, its emotional intensity relentlessly builds up to this point. Even the song's time signature changes from a tricky 9/4 to a straight-up, stop-fucking-around 4/4 (starting from the beginning of "in the back, off the side..."), whereupon the rage in TR's voice just ramps up to a breaking point. When the lead vocal finally stops spilling its bile, we're left with a chugging mass of punishingly gated electric guitars, sinister, inhuman-sounding backing vocals and sputtering programmed percussion. It leaves me feeling almost breathless each time I listen, it's so great.

Then the mood shifts drastically into the odd, slowly-shifting drone noises that run underneath the beginning of TDWWA, but you're mentally prepared by what you've just heard for the massed chorus of clarion guitars dropping away to lonely plucked mandolin and naked single-track vocal. The downward shift in tempo between the tracks is facilitated by the feeling of a pulsing bass pattern in the drones, not quite in time but anchoring it to a framework, however slight. That vanishes when the drone fades out and the mandolin slowly disappears, but then the crushing guitars slam back in leading to the choral climax. By juxtaposing these two very different tracks together, you immediately notice the common feeling of temporal disruption they share, and the lyrical sense of betrayal and loss. Plus the transition makes you aware of exactly how weird these songs both are, for the two opening tracks on a giant rock album.

[Toadflax]

Thank you! I'd say that the ending of "Somewhat Damaged" is really over-the-top in its aggressive, spiteful rage... it's the epitome of a trademark NIN assault. From the simmering, almost polite beginning of the album, its emotional intensity relentlessly builds up to this point. Even the song's time signature changes from a tricky 9/4 to a straight-up, stop-fucking-around 4/4 (starting from the beginning of "in the back, off the side..."), whereupon the rage in TR's voice just ramps up to a breaking point. When the lead vocal finally stops spilling its bile, we're left with a chugging mass of punishingly gated electric guitars, sinister, inhuman-sounding backing vocals and sputtering programmed percussion. It leaves me feeling almost breathless each time I listen, it's so great.

Then the mood shifts drastically into the odd, slowly-shifting drone noises that run underneath the beginning of TDWWA, but you're mentally prepared by what you've just heard for the massed chorus of clarion guitars dropping away to lonely plucked mandolin and naked single-track vocal. The downward shift in tempo between the tracks is facilitated by the feeling of a pulsing bass pattern in the drones, not quite in time but anchoring it to a framework, however slight. That vanishes when the drone fades out and the mandolin slowly disappears, but then the crushing guitars slam back in leading to the choral climax. By juxtaposing these two very different tracks together, you immediately notice the common feeling of temporal disruption they share, and the lyrical sense of betrayal and loss. Plus the transition makes you aware of exactly how weird these songs both are, for the two opening tracks on a giant rock album.

Wanna be on a podcast?

[Toadflax]

I'm having this problem with iTunes where the most recent podcast episode never plays right - right now, it says that the current episode is 3 hours, 35 minutes long (which is ridiculous, obviously), and it never remembers exactly where I am if I pause and restart. Is anyone else encountering this? It doesn't happen with any other feed I have.

Hm, that's annoying. If you have an Apple device, the Podcast app works great. As for iTunes, though, I'll defer to OSLIN for technical support.

[botley]

Wanna be on a podcast?

I'd love to!

[seasonsinthesky]

Plus the transition makes you aware of exactly how weird these songs both are, for the two opening tracks on a giant rock album.

Every time I hear it, this is exactly what I think. It was done just to do it. Because NIN segues are "supposed" to be tightly integrated like that, even on remix EPs.

Compared to segues with more symbolic meanings - say, the tempo-mismatched crossfade of TB/IDNWT, where the winner of the battle between man and machine is hinted before the end of IDNWT even confirms it - the SD/TDTWWA drone fade-in is so unnecessary.

The arrangement of SD ultimately used for the album has a hard ending, the typical NIN song cutoff. By the time the song is in 4/4, as you say, it means business, and there is absolutely no extra fat. It states what it needs to state and gets out of the way. TDTWWA, an indecisive song by design - the opening ambience can't even decide between C and C# - opening with a lengthy drone is a total mood change, a swift drop from a height of anger and betrayal to an audible 'pit of despair' that illustrates brilliantly the non-linear emotional state following the loss of someone important. We can group the process into the Kübler-Ross stages of grief but, as that model says itself, the feelings don't work so neatly. Anger doesn't resolve to bargaining and then depression, it seethes under the surface and bubbles back up intermittently.

And this is why the segue borders on inappropriate. The fade-in suggests a far smoother contour - 'smooth' in a relative sense - than the actual emotional contour involved. Expected as it may be, it would actually be conceptually and emotionally more appropriate to use the proper start of the drone (as it appears on Halo 13) right when the last note of SD ends, creating the "Pinion"/"Wish" or HMIAIH/HIS interruption segue. It illustrates more clearly the drop and mood switch by being exactly as exaggerated as the two songs.

So, two things working against me here, besides the fact that TR and Ezrin did it that way and there's no changing it:
1) Using the fade-in instead of the cut segue invokes awkwardness. People can't deal with loss at first. Behaviour becomes erratic. The 'inappropriateness' (as I called it) is kinda accurate.
2) The record illustrates later on (like in the SF/"Complication" segue we were lamenting earlier) that the cut/sudden segues on The Fragile are for songs that express similar emotions. You get a crossfade from the hopeful jazz of LM with the death-resolve of TGB, but sudden movement out of the spiteful acceptance in TBCD to the 'no choice' expression of UIA, two facets occurring simultaneously (or so is my interpretation, anyway).

Separate note: Out of all the segues that bug me, there is no justifying the horrid fade-up of "Pilgrimage" over the last half-bar of ED. Conceptual continuity between them is there - lost my way, may as well head out to somewhere else - so I would say it's actually an example of two songs that should have had the sudden segue like TBCD/UIA.

[eversonpoe]

I'd love to!

botley, i think you would be the perfect person to come one and talk with jeff & brian. you're extremely intelligent and you've spent a lot of time dissecting trent's music, so i'm certain you have a vast array of things to say about it. get in touch with any of us to talk about what episode(s) you'd most like to be on and what your schedule is like!

[OSLIN]

I'm having this problem with iTunes where the most recent podcast episode never plays right - right now, it says that the current episode is 3 hours, 35 minutes long (which is ridiculous, obviously), and it never remembers exactly where I am if I pause and restart. Is anyone else encountering this? It doesn't happen with any other feed I have.
I'm not having any issues currently. It may just be on your end. If anybody could check on iTunes let me know how it's playing.

[BenAkenobi]

Pilgrimage ... I've always seen it as something of a victory march for something inherently negative (lots of people have mentioned it bringing Nazi imagery to mind, and the frantic chanting and shouting at the end definitely feels like some winning force of destruction cheering), and with it being a possible ending thematically it could very well be the idea of making a pilgrimage into darkness/hopelessness so to speak, giving in and entering into this new, fucked up version of things that so much of The Fragile seems to be about, with arriving at that raw, ugly place at the end that you were in from the beginning...

OK, sorry for replying to relatively old post, but i just took proper time to give this topic some attention, better late than never...

I soooo disagree that Pilgrimage is about some army march. I really pity those who are quick to label it as such when they heard some rhythmic crowd noise. But for me it's a vivid picture, always was, never fails to put a smile on my face, let's imagine a marching band instead! A circus coming into this town where life is slow, nothing happens, and kaboom! a carnival in the midnight, when everyone's gets a mask, a funny hat, a face paint and the music is on every corner, everyone cheering, drunk, maybe there a fight somewhere but it's a comic one - for candy and toys, you know. Firebreathers, acrobats, midgets, the show that sucks you in and make you lose mind for a little while. It's a fucking party, guys!

[newmodel87]

I've always liked "Pilgrimage."

And I've always thought "Starfuckers, Inc." was an excellent song. I understand that it is very different from the rest of the album but I'm always surprised at how many people list this as one of their least favourite NIN tracks.

[eversonpoe]

OK, sorry for replying to relatively old post, but i just took proper time to give this topic some attention, better late than never...

I soooo disagree that Pilgrimage is about some army march. I really pity those who are quick to label it as such when they heard some rhythmic crowd noise. But for me it's a vivid picture, always was, never fails to put a smile on my face, let's imagine a marching band instead! A circus coming into this town where life is slow, nothing happens, and kaboom! a carnival in the midnight, when everyone's gets a mask, a funny hat, a face paint and the music is on every corner, everyone cheering, drunk, maybe there a fight somewhere but it's a comic one - for candy and toys, you know. Firebreathers, acrobats, midgets, the show that sucks you in and make you lose mind for a little while. It's a fucking party, guys!

so like Something Wicked This Way Comes? i love that interpretation.

[seasonsinthesky]

I find it easier, given the context of "cynicism in loss" that seems so fitting, to interpret that the reason "Pilgrimage" elicits the ridiculous circus marching band image against the serious implications of its title is to call out the idea as farcical. "Even Deeper" indicates the narrator is lost, and rather than finding solace in the idea of using the opportunity to go on a pilgrimage to come to terms with his creator (or whatever), he finds the whole idea to be a joke.

Makes me wonder what that creates as context for the statement in "No, You Don't."

[icecream]

Glad the show is back and hate being a nitpicky dickhead but wondering when Karen was going to be back on the show?

[eversonpoe]

Glad the show is back and hate being a nitpicky dickhead but wondering when Karen was going to be back on the show?

karen has been hard to contact for a while now, so we have moved on without her, unfortunately. any time she wants to come back, she's more than welcome to rejoin us!

[Toadflax]

Attention Underneath It All fans: we want to hear YOUR voices on our next episode!

For Episode 13, we're looking for submissions from fans detailing a moment, memory, item, or anything else Nine Inch Nails related which means something to you. That time you met Trent Reznor, how Broken got you through middle school, when you lost your virginity to Closer, the live show that changed your life, how a shared love of With Teeth brought you and your now best friend together, etc. Send in your submissions, and the best ones will be featured on the show!

Here's how it works:

Make a recording of your submission with your smartphone, tablet, computer, etc. and send it to nincast@live.com (if none of these is a viable option for you, let us know via email, and we'll see what we can arrange). Submissions should include a short introduction (name, age, location, etc.) and must be kept to around five minutes. Finally, we're looking for meaningful entries- not just a generic rant about how you think the band is great (we do that enough on the show already). This will also help us scout out new voices for the show, so if you want to appear as a guest on a future episode, it's definitely in your interest to make a submission!


Please submit your message no later than November 15th. If you have any questions or experience any issues with your submission, email us at nincast@live.com, and we'll make sure to get you sorted. Thanks for your time, and we look forward to hearing from you!

[Toadflax]

Oh man, the tales I could tell...

Tell us!!!

[Toadflax]

Attention Underneath It All fans: we want to hear YOUR voices on our next episode!

For Episode 13, we're looking for submissions from fans detailing a moment, memory, item, or anything else Nine Inch Nails related which means something to you. That time you met Trent Reznor, how Broken got you through middle school, when you lost your virginity to Closer, the live show that changed your life, how a shared love of With Teeth brought you and your now best friend together, etc. Send in your submissions, and the best ones will be featured on the show!

Here's how it works:

Make a recording of your submission with your smartphone, tablet, computer, etc. and send it to nincast@live.com (if none of these is a viable option for you, let us know via email, and we'll see what we can arrange). Submissions should include a short introduction (name, age, location, etc.) and must be kept to around five minutes. Finally, we're looking for meaningful entries- not just a generic rant about how you think the band is great (we do that enough on the show already). This will also help us scout out new voices for the show, so if you want to appear as a guest on a future episode, it's definitely in your interest to make a submission!


Please submit your message no later than November 15th. If you have any questions or experience any issues with your submission, email us at nincast@live.com, and we'll make sure to get you sorted. Thanks for your time, and we look forward to hearing from you!

Thanks to those who've sent in your submissions! We'd love to hear from everyone else! I hope we didn't scare anyone away with the whole "meaningful" comment. It can be something as simple as why the band means so much to you- so long as it's personal and from the heart, we'd love to hear it!

[KarenLeslie]

*Waves Hello*

Hi everybody, I know I haven't been around in ages. I just listened to the episodes produced in my absence (10-12) and they're great. Hopefully I can return to the show in some capacity soon (and that's Normal Soon, not TR "soon.")

[eversonpoe]

*Waves Hello*

Hi everybody, I know I haven't been around in ages. I just listened to the episodes produced in my absence (10-12) and they're great. Hopefully I can return to the show in some capacity soon (and that's Normal Soon, not TR "soon.")

:: deep breath :: YAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY!!!!!! we miss you! <3

[KarenLeslie]

:: deep breath :: YAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY!!!!!! we miss you! <3

Missed you guys too. Looking forward to the With_Teeth episode, if I can be on that one I should have a lot to say. It would fill me with...shall we say, porpoise. The porpoise I think I used to have.

[eversonpoe]

So when is Ep 13 coming out?

we only got a handful of submissions so we're working on a different idea for the episode. so, you know...SOON

[Toadflax]

Thanks for your submission, NYRexall. Sorry we couldn't get it in the show. Maybe we'll try this idea again somewhere down the line.

[jubilee]

Hey Toad and everyone, hope you got my submission as well! I'm always on the look-out for new episodes anyway and hope you guys deem me worthy of contributing in some fashion in the near future. I would love to be a part of the Year Zero episode given that it holds a special place in my heart also :D but any episode would do of course!

[Toadflax]

Hey Toad and everyone, hope you got my submission as well! I'm always on the look-out for new episodes anyway and hope you guys deem me worthy of contributing in some fashion in the near future. I would love to be a part of the Year Zero episode given that it holds a special place in my heart also :D but any episode would do of course!

Yes! Your submission was great. We may find a way to use the submissions in the future. We are planning to reconvene in January and figure out what's next. On that subject, let's crowdsource some episode ideas. Other than the remaining albums, here are other episode ideas we're throwing around:

How To Destroy Angels
An "Into The Void" episode where we discuss non-NIN music we listen to when there's a NIN drought
Non-album tracks (Burn, Deep, Non-Entity, etc.)
Videos (possibly as an audio commentary)
A performance episode where we delve into the history of NIN's live show

Let me know if any of those sound more or less appealing than the others and if you have additional suggestions.

[jubilee]

Similar to the "Why all the devotion" thread here I was hoping more people would have submitted things for a fully fledged episode regarding our personal ties to the band / memories but alas, I like some of these ideas too.

-"Into the Void" Music we listen to when there is not an NIN drought would be my last pick from what you suggested. Not that I wouldn't listen to this episode but rather, I would only listen to it in lieu of another episode :p

-Going off your history of the live show idea (which I think would be fantastic, discussing the evoloution of the live show over time), I would vote for an episode all about the main live releases (I'm thinking of AATCHB and BYIT, of course, but also Closure and TOIOU Vegas/ The Gift and even perhaps TDS Live performance) as I think these could spark some interesting points of comparison and discussion. I'm not sure how you feel about un-official releases being covered on the show but hey, TOIOU is as professionally done as most retail releases. I mean, really you could do a whole live season of episodes.

[gorast]

I think finishing up The Fragile is a good time to delve into more recent work - HTDA, non-album tracks, the soundtracks, just something else for a couple episodes before you get back to the album discussions.

[WorzelG]

Just got round to downloading these onto my iPod, listened to the first one, loved it. Thanks for doing these, now got to find 22 whole hours to listen to the rest!

[eversonpoe]

Just got round to downloading these onto my iPod, listened to the first one, loved it. Thanks for doing these, now got to find 22 whole hours to listen to the rest!

they get better as you go because i got better at editing and having a nice bed of music. ;p
karen actually edited the first one.

[WorzelG]

they get better as you go because i got better at editing and having a nice bed of music. ;p
karen actually edited the first one.
Did anything ever happen with Lisa Fischer? I follow her on twitter and she does seem to be constantly performing but I'd love to hear about her experience working in NIN

[Toadflax]

Did anything ever happen with Lisa Fischer? I follow her on twitter and she does seem to be constantly performing but I'd love to hear about her experience working in NIN

Deferring to OSLIN on this. He's our interview wrangler. Would be great to talk to Lisa or Sharlotte at some point.

[botley]

I would have SO many questions for Lisa.

[OSLIN]

Did anything ever happen with Lisa Fischer? I follow her on twitter and she does seem to be constantly performing but I'd love to hear about her experience working in NIN
Yeah, I contacted her through Twitter, she was going on tour. We went on kind of a little break and it just kind of fell through. She's was so kind and courteous. I'm sure if I was to reach out again she would consider speaking with us.

On another note, new episodes should be starting up again. SOON.

[reznovka]

is the website down for everyone or just for me?
wanted to listen to the latest episode without using itunes and saw an empty page...

[Toadflax]

is the website down for everyone or just for me?
wanted to listen to the latest episode without using itunes and saw an empty page...

Looks like it. Paging OSLIN!

In the meantime, you can listen here:

http://shoutengine.com/UnderneathItAllANineInchNailsPodcast/

Also, Episode 13 is recorded and just needs to be mixed!

[reznovka]

Thanks a lot. ;)

[eversonpoe]

Looks like it. Paging @OSLIN (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1033) !

In the meantime, you can listen here:

http://shoutengine.com/UnderneathItAllANineInchNailsPodcast/

Also, Episode 13 is recorded and just needs to be mixed!

i'm gettin' to it! labor of love, man. labor of love. :p

[Toadflax]

i'm gettin' to it! labor of love, man. labor of love. :p

Always worth the wait, sir!

[implanted_microchip]

OSLIN KarenLeslie Toadflax can I please get to listen to you guys talk for like two or so hours again, that'd be great. I miss your voices they sooth my bones and drizzle like warm honey into my vulnerable and excited unprotected ears

[OSLIN]

Episode 13 - Flesh & Bone

Now available on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/underneath-it-all-nine-inch/id721681606?mt=2) and ShoutEngine (http://shoutengine.com/UnderneathItAllANineInchNailsPodcast/)

Brian Bitner @Toadflax (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=669) , James Reed @sheepdean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=350), and Ryan Jonik ninlive discuss the history of the Nine Inch Nails live show, from the early club days of the late 80's to the grand spectacle of the 2013-14 tour.

Sorry for the delay and thanks for listening. More episodes coming "fairly soon"...

Thanks to Maxwell @eversonpoe (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=588) for editing/audio mixing as always.

[sheepdean]

Wait, I'm in this one?

[implanted_microchip]

I am so happy that none of you are dead and would love to get reminders of that fact a lot more frequently!

So glad to see a new episode. I've caught up on all my other podcasts and have been really needing something to dig into.

[thatguymark]

Excellent work, guys. That was enjoyable, as always.

[reznovka]

Excellent work, guys. That was enjoyable, as always.

Same here. Favorite NINpodcast <3

[TheBang]

There were some questions in the podcast about whether the Helmet club tour even happened in 1995. There is ample evidence that it did, in fact, happen:

http://www.nin.wiki/File:11_14_1995_miami_beach_glam_slam.jpg
http://www.theninhotline.net/nin_historian/tix_1995_club_tour.html
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1995-11-10/entertainment/9511080458_1_new-year-s-eve-first-things-first-prices
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1995-11-15/news/9511140531_1_off-duty-police-officers-bar-dda

One problem in getting information about it though is that there is a huge hole in the alt.music.nin Deja News (now Google Groups) archives from about Oct. 1995 to Jan. 1996. The other problem is the clubs were so small, that there were not a lot of people who saw the shows. I think other the years, I've only seen a couple post who said they were actually at one of these shows. And incredibly, not a single bootleg recording has surfaced.

Edit: Found this intersting MTV News article:

http://www.mtv.com/news/1458727/nine-inch-nails-annoy-helmet-whitney-houston-exhales-dogg-pound-1-this-week-in-1995/

[ninlive]

It was more of a joke that the Helmet/NIN club tour didn't happen. I know it did. Just crazy no recordings came about that tour!?

[TheBang]

Just crazy no recordings came about that tour!?
I know, right? Especially coming off of the Self-Destruct and Outside tours, when NIN were arguably at the apex of their popularity.

Based on what I've been able to piece together, it really sounds like the club shows were being done with only a few days' notice in the towns where they were happening. For example, that Sun Sentinel article above confirming the shows just a couple days later in south Florida. I think the short notice, combined with the extremely limited amount of tickets available are probably what contributed to the lack of recordings.

[Toadflax]

[EPISODE_FOURTEEN] has been recorded and will be in your earholes "soon." New episodes in the new year. Before we get to Year Zero, we want to do an entire episode discussing the ARG. Does anyone know of some currently active ETS users who attended the Open Source Resistance meeting? It would be great to hear their account of the event. Thanks!

[sheepdean]

[EPISODE_FOURTEEN] has been recorded and will be in your earholes "soon." New episodes in the new year. Before we get to Year Zero, we want to do an entire episode discussing the ARG. Does anyone know of some currently active ETS users who attended the Open Source Resistance meeting? It would be great to hear their account of the event. Thanks!
Might wanna try some of the people who said they attended here: http://www.nintourhistory.com/concert.php?concertid=845

edit: also the ol' ninwiki has a couple of stories about it from ETSers who were there http://www.nin.wiki/2007/04/18_LA .

[Toadflax]

New UIA coming in 2017. Other stuff, too.


Also, in light of recent announcements, we felt it appropriate to make James Reed (aka sheepdean aka Atticus Ross superfan aka our own soft spoken British nobleman who seems to have a hand in all of our work as of late) an official member of the podcast! We haven't told him yet or even asked if he wants it, but it's happening anyway. Welcome, James! Please make an immediate appointment for your ass branding. Remember, it's U on the left cheek, A on the right, and a big sexy line down the middle.


Happy holidays, everyone!

[eversonpoe]

New UIA coming in 2017. Other stuff, too.


Also, in light of recent announcements, we felt it appropriate to make James Reed (aka @sheepdean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=350) aka Atticus Ross superfan aka our own soft spoken British nobleman who seems to have a hand in all of our work as of late) an official member of the podcast! We haven't told him yet or even asked if he wants it, but it's happening anyway. Welcome, James! Please make an immediate appointment for your ass branding. Remember, it's U on the left cheek, A on the right, and a big sexy line down the middle.


Happy holidays, everyone!

sorry it's taking me so long! i haven't had a day where i can sit down and edit for 8-9 hours straight -_-
some day...soon...

[perterje]

I just wanted to let you guys know that I'm a big fan of your podcast. I've been a superlurker on this forum for years, and finally registered to be a part of the latest events. I'm looking very much forward to whatever you have in store for us in the future. Keep up the good work!

[Toadflax]

I just wanted to let you guys know that I'm a big fan of your podcast. I've been a superlurker on this forum for years, and finally registered to be a part of the latest events. I'm looking very much forward to whatever you have in store for us in the future. Keep up the good work!

Thanks! Always great to hear. New episodes coming before too long.

[OSLIN]

Episode 13.5 - Not The Actual Next Episode (http://shoutengine.com/UnderneathItAllANineInchNailsPodcast/episode-135-not-the-actual-next-episode-31874)

Brian (@Toadflax), James (@sheepdean), and Jeff (@OSLIN) discuss the new Nine Inch Nails EP Not the Actual Events

[sheepdean]

Episode 13.5 - Not The Actual Next Episode (http://shoutengine.com/UnderneathItAllANineInchNailsPodcast/episode-135-not-the-actual-next-episode-31874)

Brian (@Toadflax), James (@sheepdean), and Jeff (@OSLIN) discuss the new Nine Inch Nails EP Not the Actual Events



idk, feels a bit short

[Tommy_Macbeth]

First time listening to this podcast, really enjoyed it, going to check out all the other episodes. Surprised and happy that they mentioned the serial killer storyline! lol

[Toadflax]

First time listening to this podcast, really enjoyed it, going to check out all the other episodes. Surprised and happy that they mentioned the serial killer storyline! lol

Haha, thanks! I actually had that thought before I realized people on here were talking about it, so it seemed worth mentioning. :)

[OSLIN]

Our newest logo brought to you by @Toadflax (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=669)


http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u344/joslinin/uia_zpscwnk60i3.jpg



Plus don't forget that you can listen to Episode 13.5 - Not the Actual Next Episode (http://shoutengine.com/UnderneathItAllANineInchNailsPodcast/episode-135-not-the-actual-next-episode-31874) NOW!

We are also available on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/underneath-it-all-nine-inch/id721681606?mt=2) and Stitcher (http://app.stitcher.com/mystations/35161869/64859/details)!

[Jon]

sheepdean

I think encephalitis (http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs386/en/) is what you were referring to for "Branches/Bones"?

[sheepdean]

@sheepdean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=350)

I think encephalitis (http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs386/en/) is what you were referring to for "Branches/Bones"?
Indeedy. This is why I should be allowed to type during podcasts Toadflax !

[Toadflax]

Indeedy. This is why I should be allowed to type during podcasts @Toadflax (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=669) !

You can type to look things up! I'm just trying to avoid tons of clicking during the show, some of which definitely happened on this one. :) That said, I've started learning how to auto-remove clicks from an audio file, so if I continue editing the show and get comfortable with the software, there may come a time where you can Freecell and Purble Place to your heart's delight!

[eversonpoe]

...so if I continue editing the show...

-_-

sorry i'm busy

-_-

[Toadflax]

-_-

sorry i'm busy

-_-

All good, sir! You are still our master editor!

[OSLIN]

Episode 14 - Fourteen Good Punches in the Face (http://shoutengine.com/UnderneathItAllANineInchNailsPodcast/episode-14-fourteen-good-punches-in-the-face-34023)
Brian Toadflax, James sheepdean, and Tim botley discuss NIN's 2005 full-length album ah-With-tha-Teeth-ah on this episode of UIA.

http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u344/joslinin/UIA_WT_SQ_CLN_zps0mldfjbc.jpg

Also available on iTunes and Stitcher!

[eversonpoe]

Episode 14 - Fourteen Good Punches in the Face (http://shoutengine.com/UnderneathItAllANineInchNailsPodcast/episode-14-fourteen-good-punches-in-the-face-34023)
Brian @Toadflax (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=669) , James @sheepdean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=350) , and Tim @botley (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=469) discuss NIN's 2005 full-length album ah-With-tha-Teeth-ah on this episode of UIA.

http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u344/joslinin/UIA_WT_SQ_CLN_zps0mldfjbc.jpg

Also available on iTunes and Stitcher!

aka the episode that was recorded in november, edited in february, and posted in march. sorry i'm a butt. thanks for putting up with me. hope i'm a good enough editor to warrant it ;)

[OSLIN]

eversonpoe
You're worth every penny!

[OSLIN]

And by penny I mean thanks for doing this out of the kindness of your heart

[OSLIN]

And by kindness of your heart I mean your obsession with/dedication to NIN

[botley]

I'm so glad that this episode is finally out! It was a blast talking to you guys :)

[eversonpoe]

I'm so glad that this episode is finally out! It was a blast talking to you guys :)

thanks for speaking clearly and concisely...you're the easiest to edit :p

[botley]

thanks for speaking clearly and concisely...you're the easiest to edit :p
Hah! Thanks, you know I used to host and edit my own podcast for a while (https://thespeezy.wordpress.com/)... so I feel your pain :)

[sonic_discord]

After listening to the latest podcast (great job, as always guys! I've been listening since the first one), I went and played Right Where it Belongs to listen for the "traffic sounds" that were mentioned (because I didn't remember any), but I didn't notice it. The crowd noise, of course, is very obvious, but where are these supposed traffic sounds in the song? Am I missing something obvious? Is it that background noise in the first minute of the song? That never stood out to me as any kind of discernible sounds from street traffic.

On an unrelated note, I used to be a member of the old board way back in 2002 and when the ETS server went down in 2011 and had to start over, I never signed up again until this year. I may look like a brand new member, but I used to be a regular and I've been lurking for the past 6 or so years. So, hello again!

[Toadflax]

After listening to the latest podcast (great job, as always guys! I've been listening since the first one), I went and played Right Where it Belongs to listen for the "traffic sounds" that were mentioned (because I didn't remember any), but I didn't notice it. The crowd noise, of course, is very obvious, but where are these supposed traffic sounds in the song? Am I missing something obvious? Is it that background noise in the first minute of the song? That never stood out to me as any kind of discernible sounds from street traffic.

On an unrelated note, I used to be a member of the old board way back in 2002 and when the ETS server went down in 2011 and had to start over, I never signed up again until this year. I may look like a brand new member, but I used to be a regular and I've been lurking for the past 6 or so years. So, hello again!

Welcome back to the world of posting! Yeah, I was just talking about that ambience in the first minute. It sounds to me like a motorcycle speeding down the street outside the window. Again, I listened to that album in my car a lot when it first came out, so that sound gave me a weird feeling of there being cars around me when there weren't. You can hear it more clearly in the instrumental version, which starts with several seconds of what sounds vaguely like street noise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuPmB2KBdm4

[Kulerage]

Welcome back to the world of posting! Yeah, I was just talking about that ambience in the first minute. It sounds to me like a motorcycle speeding down the street outside the window. Again, I listened to that album in my car a lot when it first came out, so that sound gave me a weird feeling of there being cars around me when there weren't. You can hear it more clearly in the instrumental version, which starts with several seconds of what sounds vaguely like street noise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuPmB2KBdm4
I always just thought that was some synthesizer-made tone, but it actually does sound like a windy city.

[botley]

I forgot to mention this tidbit in the podcast, but apparently Reznor included parts of the early vocal demos that he had made on a portable recording device on the finished product for With Teeth. Maybe that's one of those? And the background noise is genuine?

[Toadflax]

I forgot to mention this tidbit in the podcast, but apparently Reznor included parts of the early vocal demos that he had made on a portable recording device on the finished product for With Teeth. Maybe that's one of those? And the background noise is genuine?

Ooh, that's cool. I have many recordings on my phone of song ideas I recorded while walking to my car or being outside in come capacity, so that rings familiar. :)

[patj825]

Episode 13.5 - Not The Actual Next Episode (http://shoutengine.com/UnderneathItAllANineInchNailsPodcast/episode-135-not-the-actual-next-episode-31874)

Brian (@Toadflax), James (@sheepdean), and Jeff (@OSLIN) discuss the new Nine Inch Nails EP Not the Actual Events



What a great episode! It's my first UIA episode. Nice mix of people/comments. Thank you for sharing.

[Toadflax]

What a great episode! It's my first UIA episode. Nice mix of people/comments. Thank you for sharing.

Thank you! Be sure to check out the rest when you get a chance. :)

[patj825]

Yeah, I've recorded the background noise, while commuting on a bus, entering and exiting tunnels. You traffic, echos, and interior noise.

[patj825]

Episode 14 - Fourteen Good Punches in the Face (http://shoutengine.com/UnderneathItAllANineInchNailsPodcast/episode-14-fourteen-good-punches-in-the-face-34023)
Brian @Toadflax (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=669), James @sheepdean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=350), and Tim @botley (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=469) discuss NIN's 2005 full-length album ah-With-tha-Teeth-ah on this episode of UIA.

http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u344/joslinin/UIA_WT_SQ_CLN_zps0mldfjbc.jpg

Also available on iTunes and Stitcher!
Great show. Really love the chemistry between you four guys. Such a nice variety of thoughts. Thanks.

[JMB-GNR]

Ok, first post on ETS here. But, as a long time podcast listener, had a very good time listening to the show about NTAE. For sure I'll check out more past episodes and hoping for more in the future.

Keep up the good work guys!

[patj825]

Episode 13 was great. Great condensed live/tour history. The 3rd show I've listened to. This is now my work radio station.

http://shoutengine.com/UnderneathItAllANineInchNailsPodcast/episode-13-flesh-bone-22368

[Jon]

Excellent episode again all.
botley you're a great addition, sir.

[GavinCollins420]

Just listened to episode 13, and thoroughly enjoyed it. Great job with the show. Can't wait to delve into the other episodes.

[Toadflax]

There should definitely be an episode dedicated to the Firebrand fiasco, and its effect on the community. Tony Parente as one of the main guests on that, unfiltered plz..

Ha! That episode comes out right after our four part Tapeworm series and right before our extensive retrospective on the life of the great John Malm and the whiny tambourine player who took all of his money.

[GavinCollins420]

There should definitely be an episode dedicated to the Firebrand fiasco, and its effect on the community. Tony Parente as one of the main guests on that, unfiltered plz..

I'm into this. Book it.

I've now listened to episodes 10, 13.5, and 14. This is some great stuff. Can't wait for the Year Zero episode(s). ;)

[sonic_discord]

Do you guys have a new episode that reviews Add Violence coming soon? I'm very interested/excited to hear your thoughts/insights/interpretations on the new EP and your predictions for the third!

[Toadflax]

Do you guys have a new episode that reviews Add Violence coming soon? I've very interested/excited to hear your thoughts/insights/interpretations on the new EP and your predictions for the third!

are you sure
this is what you want?

... --- --- -.

[perterje]

are you sure
this is what you want?

... --- --- -.
Come on... Even Trent has moved on to saying stuff like -. . -..- - / .-- . . -.-

[Toadflax]

Come on... Even Trent has moved on to saying stuff like -. . -..- - / .-- . . -.-

Fair enough. If recording goes off without a hitch, if our editor is able to edit when he expects to be, and if the people pushing the buttons push the right buttons... -. . -..- - / .-- . . -.-

[sheepdean]

Do you guys have a new episode that reviews Add Violence coming soon? I'm very interested/excited to hear your thoughts/insights/interpretations on the new EP and your predictions for the third!
Look, recording an episode soon doesn't mean it comes out soon. We're more into the abstract idea of time

[botley]

SHUT UP. Silence! Add a little bit of my input to the next episode.

[sonic_discord]

Look, recording an episode soon doesn't mean it comes out soon. We're more into the abstract idea of time

I know that it takes time to edit them and all that. I don't mean to come off as impatient, just excited.

[Toadflax]

I know that it takes time to edit them and all that. I don't mean to come off as impatient, just excited.

He's just saying that we don't work in a linear time format. We've already recorded the episode for the third EP (Ruffhouzin') but have yet to record some of the episodes that have been out for years.

[TheBang]

He's just saying that we don't work in a linear time format. We've already recorded the episode for the third EP (Ruffhouzin') but have yet to record some of the episodes that have been out for years.
http://sm.ign.com/t/ign_me/video/a/arrival-th/arrival-the-ship-featurette_12df.640.jpg

[OSLIN]

Episode 15 - Violent Thoughts (http://shoutengine.com/UnderneathItAllANineInchNailsPodcast/episode-15-violent-thoughts-39868)

Brian, Jeff and Tim attempt to analyze chaos as they discuss the new Nine Inch Nail's EP Add Violence, plus much more...

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Also available on iTunes and Stitcher

[botley]

Another fun one! Although if you're looking for clear answers to questions you may have about this EP, we, uh, don't have any :)

[blassster]

When Discipline starts playing in the sign-off, keep it going if you normally stop it at that point. Genius.

[eversonpoe]

When Discipline starts playing in the sign-off, keep it going if you normally stop it at that point. Genius.

thanks ;)

i have put a "stinger" (as mst3k calls it) at the end of pretty much every episode...have people not been listening to the ends? for shame...

[blassster]

thanks ;)

i have put a "stinger" (as mst3k calls it) at the end of pretty much every episode...have people not been listening to the ends? for shame...I usually stop any show during whatever outro music, but especially in this case since Discipline is near my lowest ranked NIN songs :(

[eversonpoe]

I usually stop any show during whatever outro music, but especially in this case since Discipline is near my lowest ranked NIN songs :(

i'm sorry to hear that. it's one of my favorites, which is why i put it at the end of every episode. it never plays for more than about 40 seconds, though. anyway, you should go back and check out the other stingers. some of them are hilarious.

[cashpiles (closed)]

Loving the Less Than commentary and analysis.

EDIT: This is really great.

[Conan The Barbarian]

I just subbed to the podcast. You guys are currently part of my morning drives to work. Good job.

[Toadflax]

Thanks, guys! Glad our bewildered pontificating is keeping you entertained. :)

[Substance242]

This is the only podcast I follow (I don't even really know what podcast is to tell the truth, I only follow Sonicstate and ISRTV on youtube manually), and after discovering it here I downloaded also previous episodes, very interesting listen including the last one with its on-topic ending, good work! :-)

Also, sometimes I feel an urge to say "Settle down, Beavis!", but just jokingly, all good. :-)

[perterje]

Another awesome podcast, and I'm very thankful that you take the time to gather up the forces and throw one of these together as soon as Trent & Atticus decide to throw us stuff! Keep them coming! That goes for both Trent & Atticus and the podcast.

[thebigcomedown]

Just listened tithe podcast for the first time today. I really enjoyed it. Listened to the most recent one. Now I'm happy to say that I get to enjoy backtracking through all the previous podcasts. Thanks for making a great show

[Toadflax]

Thanks for all the kind words, everyone! We hope to have some more stuff for you soon.

In the meantime, if you're not subscribed to the show or following us on Facebook/Twitter, what are you waiting for? It'll fix what was wrong with you.

https://www.facebook.com/NINPodcast
https://twitter.com/ninpodcast

[perterje]

In the meantime, if you're not subscribed to the show or following us on Facebook/Twitter, what are you waiting for? It'll fix what was wrong with you.I did, and now I'm not less than anymore.

[Microwave Jellyfish]

Come on, pigs. About time for some lifesigns.

[eversonpoe]

Come on, pigs. About time for some lifesigns.

i bugged Toadflax a little while back about when we were going to do the next episode and it seems like everyone is just super busy. maybe the new release will kick 'em into gear.

[ltrandazzo]

i bugged @Toadflax (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=669) a little while back about when we were going to do the next episode and it seems like everyone is just super busy. maybe the new release will kick 'em into gear.

I can be your guest. I can easily talk myself to death for an hour if needed.