The missing live songs

[Ryan]

Updated November 21, 2013:


http://www.ninwiki.com/NIN_songs_never_played_live



NIN songs never played live This is an ongoing list of songs that Nine Inch Nails (http://www.ninwiki.com/Nine_Inch_Nails) have never played live, ordered by album and their album order. Remixes or songs appearing on The Social Network Soundtrack (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Social_Network_Soundtrack) or The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo Soundtrack (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Girl_With_The_Dragon_Tattoo_Soundtrack) are not included in this list.



Notable unplayed songs Despite being released as standalone singles or having been nominated for an award, the following songs have never been played live:


"The Perfect Drug (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Perfect_Drug_%28song%29)"
"34 Ghosts IV (http://www.ninwiki.com/34_Ghosts_IV)"
"Everything (http://www.ninwiki.com/Everything)"

In addition, the song "Lights In The Sky (http://www.ninwiki.com/Lights_In_The_Sky_%28song%29)" was never played on its eponymous tour (http://www.ninwiki.com/Lights_In_The_Sky_Tour), nor was "And All That Could Have Been (http://www.ninwiki.com/And_All_That_Could_Have_Been_%28song%29)" played on Fragility 2.0 (http://www.ninwiki.com/Fragility_2.0) despite the accompanying live album and film (http://www.ninwiki.com/And_All_That_Could_Have_Been_%28halo%29) being named for the song.

Pretty Hate Machine (http://www.ninwiki.com/Pretty_Hate_Machine) Era

"Purest Feeling (http://www.ninwiki.com/Purest_Feeling_%28song%29)"


The Downward Spiral (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Downward_Spiral_%28halo%29) Era

"Memorabilia (http://www.ninwiki.com/Memorabilia)"
"A Violet Fluid (http://www.ninwiki.com/A_Violet_Fluid)"
"TOH (Top Of The Hour) (http://www.ninwiki.com/TOH_%28Top_Of_The_Hour%29)"
"The Perfect Drug"

The Fragile (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Fragile_%28halo%29) Era

"Where Is Everybody? (http://www.ninwiki.com/Where_Is_Everybody%3F)"
"10 Miles High (http://www.ninwiki.com/10_Miles_High)"
"Appendage (http://www.ninwiki.com/Please#Please_.28.2Bappendage.29)"
"The New Flesh (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_New_Flesh)"
"I'm Looking Forward To Joining You, Finally (http://www.ninwiki.com/I%27m_Looking_Forward_To_Joining_You,_Finally)"
"Underneath It All (http://www.ninwiki.com/Underneath_It_All)"
"Ripe/Ripe (With Decay) (http://www.ninwiki.com/Ripe)"
"The Great Collapse (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Great_Collapse)"
"And All That Could Have Been (http://www.ninwiki.com/And_All_That_Could_Have_Been_%28song%29)"
"The Persistence Of Loss (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Persistence_Of_Loss)"
"Leaving Hope (http://www.ninwiki.com/Leaving_Hope)"

With Teeth (http://www.ninwiki.com/With_Teeth_%28halo%29) Era

"Sunspots (http://www.ninwiki.com/Sunspots)"

With Teeth Rehearsal Audio Unofficially released tour rehearsal audio for the Live: With Teeth (http://www.ninwiki.com/Live:_With_Teeth) tour was made available by Echoing The Sound (http://www.ninwiki.com/Echoing_The_Sound) user mofoboy25, which included live audio of the song "Sunspots". This means that, whilst as-live audio of this song exists, it was not played to an audience and thus doesn't strictly count as "live".
Year Zero (http://www.ninwiki.com/Year_Zero) Era

"My Violent Heart (http://www.ninwiki.com/My_Violent_Heart)"
"Zero-Sum (http://www.ninwiki.com/Zero-Sum)"

Ghosts I–IV (http://www.ninwiki.com/Ghosts_I%E2%80%93IV) Era

"2 Ghosts I (http://www.ninwiki.com/2_Ghosts_I)"
"3 Ghosts I (http://www.ninwiki.com/3_Ghosts_I)"
"4 Ghosts I (http://www.ninwiki.com/4_Ghosts_I)"
"7 Ghosts I (http://www.ninwiki.com/7_Ghosts_I)"
"9 Ghosts I (http://www.ninwiki.com/9_Ghosts_I)"
"11 Ghosts II (http://www.ninwiki.com/11_Ghosts_II)"
"12 Ghosts II (http://www.ninwiki.com/12_Ghosts_II)"
"13 Ghosts II (http://www.ninwiki.com/13_Ghosts_II)"
"15 Ghosts II (http://www.ninwiki.com/15_Ghosts_II)"
"16 Ghosts II (http://www.ninwiki.com/16_Ghosts_II)"
"18 Ghosts II (http://www.ninwiki.com/18_Ghosts_II)"
"20 Ghosts III (http://www.ninwiki.com/20_Ghosts_III)"
"22 Ghosts III (http://www.ninwiki.com/22_Ghosts_III)"
"23 Ghosts III (http://www.ninwiki.com/23_Ghosts_III)"
"26 Ghosts III (http://www.ninwiki.com/26_Ghosts_III)"
"27 Ghosts III (http://www.ninwiki.com/27_Ghosts_III)"
"29 Ghosts IV (http://www.ninwiki.com/29_Ghosts_IV)"
"30 Ghosts IV (http://www.ninwiki.com/30_Ghosts_IV)"
"33 Ghosts IV (http://www.ninwiki.com/33_Ghosts_IV)"
"34 Ghosts IV"
"35 Ghosts IV (http://www.ninwiki.com/35_Ghosts_IV)"
"36 Ghosts IV (http://www.ninwiki.com/36_Ghosts_IV)"
"37 Ghosts (http://www.ninwiki.com/37_Ghosts)"
"38 Ghosts (http://www.ninwiki.com/38_Ghosts)"

The Slip (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Slip) Era

"The Four Of Us Are Dying (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Four_Of_Us_Are_Dying)"
"Demon Seed (http://www.ninwiki.com/Demon_Seed)"
"Theme For Tetsuo: The Bullet Man (http://www.ninwiki.com/Theme_For_Tetsuo:_The_Bullet_Man)"
"Zoo Station (http://www.ninwiki.com/Zoo_Station)"

Hesitation Marks (http://www.ninwiki.com/Hesitation_Marks) Era

"Everything"




For me, in order:

10 Miles High
Sunspots
Where Is Everybody?
And All That Could Have Been
Demon Seed
I'm Looking Forward To Joining You, Finally


Please (+ Appendage) would be a nice surprise as well.

[Sesquipedalism]

A friend recently asked me to cobble together my dream setlist. I kept it realistic (clocking in at exactly two hours, and on par with some shows Nine Inch Nails has done in the past). I was sort of shocked by how many of my favorite songs, which were of course on it, were ones Trent has never performed live.

10. "Sunspots"
09. "Where Is Everybody
08. "Leaving Hope"
07. "I'm Looking Forward to Joining You, Finally"
06. "The Four of Us Are Dying"
05. "My Violent Heart"
04. "The Perfect Drug"
03. "Underneath It All"
02. "All the Love in the World"
01. "And All That Could Have Been" (second only to "Somewhat Damaged" as my favorite Nine Inch Nails song)

[utterben]

Oddly, most of the more quiet songs from The Fragile that haven't been performed live would probably sit quite well amongst the quieter Hesitation Marks material.

Underneath It All would make a great intro to open a set with. Doubt it'd ever happen though.


Please (+ Appendage) would be a nice surprise as well.

Holy fuck yes.

[Transfixed]

He never played Where Is Everybody?? Weird.

[PUNCHLINE]

He never played Where Is Everybody?? Weird.

http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/2242-Where-is-Everybody-live-version

[dlb]

In order:

sunspots
where is everybody? (even the remix version would make me smile as we have Josh in the band now)
my violent heart
demon seed
and all that could have been

For the rest I don't really care all that much which makes me realize that TR seems pretty fond of his material since that's only 5 songs I really want to hear in some fashion.

Top songs from Hesitation Marks that need to be played in order to make me a happy man (as I think that these should translate very well live):

in two
I would for you
(sattelite)
(all time low)

And I can not stress this enough, but happiness in slavery will forever be the song that follows help me I am in hell and I'd die to see it done with this live incarnation of NIN. PLEAAAZEEEE-UH!!!

[Transfixed]

http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/2242-Where-is-Everybody-live-version

Right... so no, they didn't play it live. Got it :)

[nemesiswontdie]

happiness in slavery

Honestly, if they play The Great Destroyer with the HiS breakdown implemented into TGD like how they did on the Year Zero tour, I'd be completely happy with it.

[EndlessLoveless]

I know its been played as an intro, but just the beginning, and i know its pretty abstract.....but i would love to hear the new flesh played in its entirety. The last few minutes of that song fucking kill. One of my favorites. So Floyd-ish.

[sheepdean]

I would love to see Ghosts played in full, so yeah.

[KingDeathMachine]

1. Everything from the Fragile era - I can't choose favorites here! But particularly 10 Miles High, I'm Looking Forward To Joining You Finally, and Where is Everybody? The Fragile doesn't get enough love on the live setlists, and I've never understood why.

2. Memorabilia (Possibly my favorite non-LP song in the NIN catalogue)

3. My Violent Heart (Really shocked this never got played. One of the best on Year Zero)

4. The Perfect Drug (Another one I'm shocked they never played live. I realize the song and video are a little dopey in retrospect, but it was cool at the time and it remains one of the most popular NIN songs to this day)

5. Not in front of my iTunes at the moment, so not sure which Ghosts tracks are which, but I'm of the opinion that NIN doesn't play enough off Ghosts. My favorite track off Ghosts is I think either 32 or 33, can't remember which. It's one of the last tracks, but apparently none of them have been played either, so...yeah, play that one.

[NINfan04]

On top of everything that has been mentioned...even though it HAS been played live, it hasn't been played live in 18 years: "HAPPINESS IN SLAVERY"!

that is all :)

[dlb]

Honestly, if they play The Great Destroyer with the HiS breakdown implemented into TGD like how they did on the Year Zero tour, I'd be completely happy with it.

That one was great yes! And I don't even remember if they played it like this at the show I was at, but if they manage to put that particular break down in any other environment that could fit I'd be happy. Still the whole song is a force of nature! I don't listen to many bootlegs from that era, but the Woodstock gig has me all excited in all the right spots. :D

[toomanyrifts]

1. Demon Seed

Everything else, is well, it's no biggie...

[slave2thewage]

If Zero-Sum was broken out, I would collapse in a puddle of tears.

[Skeptikk]

Damn, I guess I'll never see Where is Everybody feat. Eminem... YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE TRENT! YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE!

But seriously.... All That Could Have Been would be #1 on my wishlist.

[Volband]

I love the whole hype around The Perfect Drug, and I like the song as well, but I guess that's a boring ass answer, so...

Sunspots, AATCHB, Leaving Hope, The Bullet Man. But there are soo many songs he barely played - or a very long time ago -, like HIS or Even Deeper.

[PhoenixML]

Can we start the debat "either A New Flesh is in the list, or Zero-Sum is out of the list"?

[voidnz]

And All That Could Have Been and Sunspots!

[EndlessLoveless]

Can we start the debat "either A New Flesh is in the list, or Zero-Sum is out of the list"?

Exactly.^^^^^^

[Ryan]

Can we start the debat "either A New Flesh is in the list, or Zero-Sum is out of the list"?

I'd argue that The New Flesh, although only partially used, opened the AATCHB live DVD and isn't a song as epic or moving as Zero-Sum, and only the piano from that has been played after In This Twilight live, so I'd leave the list as-is really.

[millhouse]

Honestly, if they play The Great Destroyer with the HiS breakdown implemented into TGD like how they did on the Year Zero tour, I'd be completely happy with it.

Holy fuck, I'd forgotten about this.

[Tyson]

The Fragile (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Fragile_(halo)) Era



"Where Is Everybody? (http://www.ninwiki.com/Where_Is_Everybody%3F)"
"Appendage (http://www.ninwiki.com/Please#Please_.28.2Bappendage.29)"
"I'm Looking Forward To Joining You, Finally (http://www.ninwiki.com/I'm_Looking_Forward_To_Joining_You,_Finally)"
"Underneath It All (http://www.ninwiki.com/Underneath_It_All)"
"Ripe/Ripe (With Decay) (http://www.ninwiki.com/Ripe)"
"10 Miles High (http://www.ninwiki.com/10_Miles_High)"
"And All That Could Have Been (http://www.ninwiki.com/And_All_That_Could_Have_Been_(song))"
"The Persistence Of Loss (http://www.ninwiki.com/The_Persistence_Of_Loss)"
"Leaving Hope (http://www.ninwiki.com/Leaving_Hope)"
You forgot The Great Collapse.

[PhoenixML]

I'd argue that The New Flesh, although only partially used, opened the AATCHB live DVD and isn't a song as epic or moving as Zero-Sum, and only the piano from that has been played after In This Twilight live, so I'd leave the list as-is really.

Reads : "only partially used". A New Flesh has lyrics but it was never sung. I believe Zero-Sum has lyrics too, and although it wasn't sung, it was partially played, A New Flesh wasn't even played by the band (right?). Both are in, or both are out.

The debate is ON!!

And yes, let's add The Great Collapse.

[thatguymark]

Of those listed, I'd go:

And All That Could Have Been
The Perfect Drug
Leaving Hope
Zero-Sum
The Four of Us Are Dying (I always dug this one a lot and don't know why it's not more loved)

But, there are tons of songs that I've yet to see live that aren't on this list that would excite me just as much:

Burn (I know they play it all the time, but they didn't at the 2 shows I attended, so it's necessary for me)
Sin
Ruiner
Eraser
We're In This Together
The Great Below
The Mark Has Been Made

....and so many more.

Whatever the case, I'm looking forward to any surprises TR has in store. 6 weeks to go for me and it can't go fast enough.

[Moebius]

Year Zero (http://www.ninwiki.com/Year_Zero) Era



"My Violent Heart (http://www.ninwiki.com/My_Violent_Heart)"
"Zero-Sum (http://www.ninwiki.com/Zero-Sum)"
"Another Version of the Truth" has not been played either.

[Moebius]

Without going too crazy, my picks would have to be:

* "Memorabilia" - would fit in great live, although I guess it's probably considered too sample-heavy
* "The Perfect Drug" - of course
* "All the Love in the World" - sort of surprising that the lead track was never, played, though the vocal range is obviously why
* "My Violent Heart" - this has to be played someday, another surprising omission since it was the first YZ track leaked!
* "Zero Sum" - not to take away from the gorgeous ITT/ZS ending from the LITS shows, but this MUST be heard in its entirety

I'd also love to hear "I'm Looking Forward to Joining You, Finally" but I can understand why he might not want to play it.

[OSLIN]

And All That Could Have Been/Leaving Hope outro
The Perfect Drug
The New Flesh

I need to hear these live please. Thank you.

[EndlessLoveless]

Reads : "only partially used". A New Flesh has lyrics but it was never sung. I believe Zero-Sum has lyrics too, and although it wasn't sung, it was partially played, A New Flesh wasn't even played by the band (right?). Both are in, or both are out.

The debate is ON!!

And yes, let's add The Great Collapse.

This. Exactly. The intro played live was missing pretty much the whole song. And it def was a tape, not the band.

[mr9inchnail]

I think "And all that could have been" and "Leaving Hope" would be absolutely amazing to see live!! and I agree that Happiness in Slavery should make a live comeback =)

[ManBurning]

When you don't count the Ghosts stuff, there really isn't many songs that haven't been played live when you think of it. With the exception of a few of those, most of those are "b-sides" and/or rare songs not from albums, so it's no surprise they don't play them live.

Not saying I wouldn't want to hear those, most of the above songs make up my top 10 NIN songs of all time!

-Sunspots
-The Perfect Drug
-AATCHB
-Demon Seed
-Where is Everybody
-Underneath it all
-I'm looking forward to joining you finally

are all extreme favourite's of mine. Now the question is, are they only precieved as favourite songs amungst the die-hard fans because the songs AREN'T overplayed, or are they really really that special? Think about it, these songs are never played live, so that gives us fans a less of a chance of getting tired of hearing them, as opposed to the songs that are played on a regular basis that most of us would rather see retired from the setlist.

Are these songs just too hard to play? Does Trent not like them? I would be happy with at least one of these songs played live on the upcoming tension 2013 tour (not including the Ghosts stuff).

Honestly, the only songs I can actually see being played from that list would be Where Is Everybody, The four of us are dying or Sunspots. Everything else just seems to be either too rare/obscure/hard to play/hated by Trent.

HOWEVER, with the new setup, and as electronic and synth heavy that it is, I can actually see maybe The Perfect Drug making a debut, even if it's a "reworked" version like Sanctified was. I feel Trent is comfortable with stepping outside the box now and not afraid to present a song in a different format that what we are used to. So I think a reworked Perfect Drug would flow nicely into the set.

I doubt any of these are showing up though, but if anything will happen I think Where Is Everybody will be paired beside "All Time Low" on the new tour, that I can see happening, the songs are similar.

[hani]

UNDERNEATH IT ALL.
THE FOUR OF US ARE DYING.
SUNSPOTS.
DEMON SEED.

and also, I'm Looking Forward etc., All The Love in The World, and of course The Perfect Drug

[henryeatscereal]

I would love to hear "Zero-Sum", "Where is everybody" and "All the love in the world"

Don't care too much for the covers, but hearing "Zoo Station" would be interesting...

[Moebius]

Are these songs just too hard to play? Does Trent not like them? I would be happy with at least one of these songs played live on the upcoming tension 2013 tour (not including the Ghosts stuff).

Definitely some are too difficult vocally; as we saw from WITT, there's things Trent can pull off in the studio that are difficult or taxing on his voice live. I'd put "Sunspots" and "All the Love in the World" in this category.

Some are just weird/atmospheric/quiet and arguably wouldn't fit within a normal NIN set; though that's changed a bit since Ghosts, and the regular inclusion of a few Still tracks. These songs tend to be b-sides/bonus tracks, though, so the ship has probably sailed on them by now. I'd include "Violent Fluid", "Appendage", "Ripe", "10 Miles High", the Still and Ghost tracks and "The Four of Us Are Dying"

After those, there's not really that much left.

[EndlessLoveless]

I think they should just do one show only consisting of songs that they have never done before. That would be amazing. It will never happen and to rehearse all of that would be crazy, but one can dream....

[Moebius]

I think they should just do one show only consisting of songs that they have never done before. That would be amazing. It will never happen and to rehearse all of that would be crazy, but one can dream....

They could do a short warmup club show with just HM tracks. Arcade Fire has been previewing their upcoming album this way.

Not that I think NIN will do this, but it's not such a far-fetched concept when you've got an entire album of new material.

[Failure]

Ringfinger!

[ninja77]

Now the question is, are they only precieved as favourite songs amungst the die-hard fans because the songs AREN'T overplayed, or are they really really that special?
Of the songs you just mentioned, "I'm looking forward to joining you, finally" is the one I like the most, and not just because it's rarely mentioned or discussed. When I think back 14 years to when "The Fragile" first came out, that song seemed like a contradiction of sorts - unusual even for Trent's work, yet increasingly accessible after a few listens. If that made sense.

[nowimnothing]

Porter Ricks version of TDTWWA would be interesting :eek:

[eversonpoe]

Porter Ricks version of TDTWWA would be interesting :eek:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/cdedf678a1db4f534f79ddcf5403159a/tumblr_mlblgsXDAV1s78pr2o1_500.gif

[nooneimportant]

Ringfinger!

Don't forget Kinda I Want To!

I know Trent has said he hated it before and one of the NIN drummers said that anything was on the table except that song, but man, that version from the 1989 Tour is awesome.

[fillow]

They need to bring along John 5 and remake Kinda I want to into this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=646tD2oNoJk

[wunderpanda]

I checked ninwiki to verify it wasn't played... Purest Feeling.

[Volband]

I checked ninwiki to verify it wasn't played... Purest Feeling.
Maybe Just Once 1,000,000 times better. I'd rather have the 2013 version if it, than having Purest Feeling on the setlist. That song is sooo boring, all I can remember is that he says PUREST. FEELING. a lot. How would you dance to that?:(

[Ryan]

Reads : "only partially used". A New Flesh has lyrics but it was never sung. I believe Zero-Sum has lyrics too, and although it wasn't sung, it was partially played, A New Flesh wasn't even played by the band (right?). Both are in, or both are out.

The debate is ON!!

And yes, let's add The Great Collapse.

The New Flesh/Pinion - Every show during the Fragility Tours opened with these two songs blended together, again both recordings. On at least one occasion (Yokohama), Trent sings lyrics to The New Flesh. Festival shows in Australia and Europe opened with Head Like a Hole.

http://www.gladcarrot.com/intro_songs.htm

[Ryan]

Also, The Great Collapse is just re-using vocals from The Wretched, so it's pretty redundant.

[Fred]

Lyrics, not vocals. Pretty sure The Great Collapse has a unique vocal take, and it's certainly not a remix, but an original piece of music.

[Ryan]

Lyrics, not vocals. Pretty sure The Great Collapse has a unique vocal take, and it's certainly not a remix, but an original piece of music.

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7028529408/hD4FA1AF1/

[fillow]

Just imagine them playing I'm Looking Forward.
Trent on keys, Josh on bass, everyone else go on drumpads and custom (Ghosts-like) drums.

[Lastentrance]

I really hope we get more Ghosts in Tension.

[frankie teardrop]

Also, The Great Collapse is just re-using vocals from The Wretched, so it's pretty redundant.

nah, it's an independent creation. thought that was pretty much considered fact by now... by that logic, anything with 'nothing can stop me now' is also redundant.

not to split hairs then, but 'appendage' doesn't count, as it's a remix by charlie clouser re-using some of the same lyrics. i'm fine with it being on here, but if you have that one listed, then 'the great collapse' DEFINITELY deserves to make the list.

just being thorough...

[frankie teardrop]

this also begs the question if singing/performing over tape counts. i'd go with 'yes' to make it easier for everyone's brains, but it's a grey area with 'the new flesh,' 'another version of the truth,' 'pilgrimage,' and hell, even 'pinion'... i also recall 'the greater good' wasn't actually played by the band, just sung over tape to give the rest of the band a break during lights in the sky...

[EndlessLoveless]

They need to bring along John 5 and remake Kinda I want to into this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=646tD2oNoJk

No, thats ok, please dont.

[Fist Fuck]

Do we know WHY Trent hates Kinda I Want To?

[NINfan04]

The often overlooked score from inside Hell itself....Quake soundtrack. Perhaps Driver Down or TPD from Lost Highway too. AATCHB, Leaving Hope, Maybe Just Once, etc...

Remember when Trent decided to revitalize "Last"?! That was awesome and unexpected even if they had to play in a lower key (HiS would probably be dropped too if played today).

[Thor]

For me it would be:
4. Sunspots - Because I love that bass, and also because it has on it my favourite recurring NIN lyric, nothing can stop me now.
3. Where Is Everybody? - It has so much groove, I think that a live version would be one of those that are better than the studio one.
2. The Perfect Drug - When I first heard this song I hated it, I didn't thought it was a good NIN song but recently I have been dig in it much, and it would be amazing to hear that drum solo live, if it's done right, it would be epic.
1. And All That Could Have Been - There is a fucking live album with that name on but we don't have it's live version? I mean, c'mon Trent, really? Plus it is one of those quiet songs that I just simply love and that totally breaks my heart, one of my all-time favourites.

[Bachy]

This probably deserves a thread of its own, but does anyone think Trent will ever play "Happiness In Slavery" live again?

Selfishly, I hope he does.

[Ryan]

I hope so too.

Slave screams, Ryan creams.

[GrayscaleRain]

I would seriously go nuts if Maybe Just Once was played. But who knows, Trent's trying some new (and old) stuff so it's always a possibility. ^_^ Aside from that, I'd definitely like to hear 10 Miles High live. If not in person, at least a recording of it. That's one of my favorites and it's a shame that it hasn't ever been attempted live.

[Ryan]

Reads : "only partially used". A New Flesh has lyrics but it was never sung. I believe Zero-Sum has lyrics too, and although it wasn't sung, it was partially played, A New Flesh wasn't even played by the band (right?). Both are in, or both are out.

The debate is ON!!

And yes, let's add The Great Collapse.

Actually, I think The Great Collapse should be added now after re-reading this part from the AATCHB DVD -

http://www.ninwiki.com/images/8/84/About_tfa.jpg

[fillow]

^^
It's not from AATCHB DVD, it's from (now defunct) TFA website. You're right either way, The Great Collapse isn't a remix.

[Ryan]

Actually, I think The Great Collapse should be added now after re-reading this part from the AATCHB DVD -

http://www.ninwiki.com/images/8/84/About_tfa.jpg

Yep, will add TGC to unplayed songs.

[Ryan]

http://www.ninwiki.com/NIN_songs_never_played_live#The_Fragile_Era

[ManBurning]

Well, I guess this thread deserves an edit since "All the love in the world" can be scratched off the list of songs that have never been played live.
Who ever saw that coming?

Guess after Robert Smith decided to bust out playing "Burn" live for the first time ever in 19 years, TR decided he needed to bust out a rare one too. It's no "The Perfect Drug" but i'm gonna take it and run with it! ATLITW is in my top 10 NIN songs, so i'm very satisfied I got to hear it live.

[hani]

still, The Four Of Us Are Dying plox. imagine an encore starting with A Warm Place going into TFOUAD into Somewhat Damaged or Wish or Mr Self Destruct

[ryanp16]

I seem to be the only person here that hates The Perfect Drug.

[Ryan]

Well, I guess this thread deserves an edit since "All the love in the world" can be scratched off the list of songs that have never been played live.
Who ever saw that coming?

Guess after Robert Smith decided to bust out playing "Burn" live for the first time ever in 19 years, TR decided he needed to bust out a rare one too. It's no "The Perfect Drug" but i'm gonna take it and run with it! ATLITW is in my top 10 NIN songs, so i'm very satisfied I got to hear it live.

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[sheepdean]

I seem to be the only person here that hates The Perfect Drug.
Regardless of your opinion on it, the fact an artist has never played a single that charted very highly and had an elaborate music video is extremly unusual, if not almost unique.

[icecream]

I seem to be the only person here that hates The Perfect Drug.
I don't like it either, seems thrown together.

[Jon Griffin]

I seem to be the only person here that hates The Perfect Drug.
*raises hand*

[hani]

I love TPD, but as someone (Jerome? Charlie? can't remember) said, it's probably very hard to translate to stage since the last part kind of ruins the aggresive mood and even on the studio version the transition between the drum'n'bass motherfucking hardcore stuff and the slow piano coda is awkward. that's prolly why it wouldn't fit for the live show.

[kenthebear]

wasn't it mr. freese who said they spent fucking ages rehearsing it in 2005 then went back to it in 2007 and they just couldn't nail an ending for it

i imagine it would be shit live anyway tbf, i wish the rehearsal audio got leaked so people would stop talking about it

[screwdriver]

wasn't it mr. freese who said they spent fucking ages rehearsing it in 2005 then went back to it in 2007 and they just couldn't nail an ending for it

i imagine it would be shit live anyway tbf, i wish the rehearsal audio got leaked so people would stop talking about it

I think someone asked Freese about it during a phone call with him as part of one of his gimmicky (no insult intended) package pieces for his album, and he said essentially what both of you did, which was that they couldn't nail the live transition from heavy drum break to soft piano outdo.

it totally works on the record because of studio wizardry, but live I could see that being awkward. Still, I'd love to see it.

[ManBurning]

This is a long shot... but did anyone see and save this video from 2009?

http://www.hardrockchick.com/2009/04/11/ilan-rubins-drum-channel-interviews/

Ilan Rubin apparently played a little bit of Demon Seed live in this video... but the video seems to not exist anymore. I'd really like to hear this as I have a feeling this song will NEVER surface live ever based on this comment:

"Ilan: I only wrote out a chart for one song, "Demon Seed." The pattern is very cut up; it doesn't sound human. I wrote out a three-page chart for the song, note for note. We played it once. Trent laughed because I nailed it, but he didn't want to play it live anymore."


http://www.readperiodicals.com/201108/2388624411.html#ixzz38HAC8ODY

I wonder why he didn't want to play it anymore.

[fillow]

Yeah I asked here somewhere about this vid a while ago, and someone replied that that video has been put behind the paywall since then.
The video was cool, but you aren't really missing much. It was really just isolated drum part played on live drumkit by Ilan note-for-note, no fun fills or anything.

[ManBurning]

Ah, i'd still wanna hear whatever it was that was played. Demon Seed is on my must see live songs list, and that teaser will probably be the best any of us ever get. Even if it's just isolated drum parts, it has a pretty distinctive beat. Oh well.

Least I know my 3 favourite songs (The Perfect Drug, Demon Seed and AATCHB) were all rehearsed at one point in time and planned to be played live (based on what I found out reading NINwiki tonight). I think the only hope in hell of ever hearing any of these live is through a leaked rehearsal recording now.

Then again... I donno if that makes me feel better knowing they had all been rehearsed and planned to be played live and scrapped or worse. If I never read that they had been rehearsed, I wouldn't have the opportunity to be upset , as now i'm just sad that we ALMOST got to hear them.

[TheBang]

This is a long shot... but did anyone see and save this video from 2009?

http://www.hardrockchick.com/2009/04/11/ilan-rubins-drum-channel-interviews/

Ilan Rubin apparently played a little bit of Demon Seed live in this video... but the video seems to not exist anymore. I'd really like to hear this as I have a feeling this song will NEVER surface live ever based on this comment:


I believe it's right here:

http://www.drumchannel.com/articles/20100902_20

You just have to sign up, save the video, and then cancel with the 30 day money back guarantee. :)

[Throw_it_away9]

Ah, i'd still wanna hear whatever it was that was played. Demon Seed is on my must see live songs list, and that teaser will probably be the best any of us ever get. Even if it's just isolated drum parts, it has a pretty distinctive beat. Oh well.

Least I know my 3 favourite songs (The Perfect Drug, Demon Seed and AATCHB) were all rehearsed at one point in time and planned to be played live (based on what I found out reading NINwiki tonight). I think the only hope in hell of ever hearing any of these live is through a leaked rehearsal recording now.

Then again... I donno if that makes me feel better knowing they had all been rehearsed and planned to be played live and scrapped or worse. If I never read that they had been rehearsed, I wouldn't have the opportunity to be upset , as now i'm just sad that we ALMOST got to hear them.


Dido. Certainly the top three that I want to see.

[piggy]

Dido.
I assume you meant "ditto", because otherwise I just think of this chick:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dido_(singer)

Not being snarky, just sayin'.

[eversonpoe]

I assume you meant "ditto", because otherwise I just think of this chick:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dido_(singer)

Not being snarky, just sayin'.

i assume you meant Dido, Queen Of Carthage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dido_%28Queen_of_Carthage%29)

totally being snarky ;)

on topic: i would love it if a real brass section was brought out to play pilgrimage in full. that would be awesome.

[BenAkenobi]

I accidentally read this topic's title as "the missing five songs"