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Promethean
08-21-2013, 11:18 AM
Everything and Satellite were written for the contractually-obligated greatest hits records Trent owes Universal. While he owes them this greatest hits album, they have zero sway over what kind of music he writes. .

Wouldn't a contract to write new songs for a Greatest Hits record essentially constitute 'pressure to write a poppy hit'?

Also, someone posted a link to a song called 'Black Bomb (Jerry In The Bag) Feat.Trent Reznor' by Josh Wink. I fucking love this song! It's obviously a precursor to Year Zero. Frankly the song should be a Nine Inch Nails song featuring Josh Wink as all Wink did apparently is add some DJ noodling at the beginning and end. How this song got past me I'll never know.....I had no idea as to it's existence. Talk about hit.....this would have been one. Would have been big in the clubs too. It' pisses me off sometimes that Trent does some of his best work outside of NIN records What I wouldn't give for a record of Black Bombs and Tetsuos.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k859mg6wPuE

Leviathant
08-21-2013, 11:31 AM
Wouldn't a contract to write new songs for a Greatest Hits record essentially constitute 'pressure to write a poppy hit'?

Well, certainly not for Columbia Records. What I got from what you were implying was that it would have been a requirement of Columbia Records that NIN include a 'poppy hit' on the album, when in fact it was Trent who approached Columbia with a finished record, among the songs on it was a song that began its life as "the new song for the greatest hits album" ...and then Columbia licensed the whole album for distribution, taking it at face value for what it was. Not pressuring anyone for a poppy hit.


Also, someone posted a link to a song called 'Black Bomb (Jerry In The Bag) Feat.Trent Reznor' by Josh Wink. I fucking love this song! It's obviously a precursor to Year Zero. Frankly the song should be a Nine Inch Nails song featuring Josh Wink as all Wink did apparently is add some DJ noodling at the beginning and end. How this song got past me I'll never know.....I had no idea as to it's existence. Talk about hit.....this would have been one. Would have been big in the clubs too. It' pisses me off sometimes that Trent does some of his best work outside of NIN records What I wouldn't give for a record of Black Bombs and Tetsuos.

Something else that got past you: Trent Reznor didn't do any of the music in Black Bomb. That's Josh's cat making all those weird noises. If you want more Black Bombs, maybe check out the rest of that album. Maybe you like it so much, you'd even buy it and send some money Josh's way. Josh did the music, sent a tape to Trent, who basically rearranged it and added vocals. It's funny how you say you didn't know anything about Black Bomb until yesterday, and yet somehow you're proclaiming "all Wink did was add some noodling at the beginning and end" as if you're some kind of expert. You're coming off like a blowhard.

Here's a quote from a live-wire review about that album, circa 1998:

Other accidents include "Sixth Sense," which features horrid spoken word by that crazy Ursula Rucker, and the god-awful "Black Bomb," in which Nine Inch Nails' Trent Reznor takes on vocal duties.

Here's Alternative Press:

What's the point of bringing in Trent Reznor to sing on the cheesy hate anthem "Black Bomb (Jerry In The Bag)" other than to prove to small-minded NIN fans that Wink can also, like, get down and dirty in the same formulaic way that Trent can?

Yes, that's right, in 1998, Alternative Press was calling Nine Inch Nails formulaic. All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EternalRecurrence).

Here's Spin:

One track that might prick up the ears of the wallet-chain masses (& potentially tick off techno purists) is the unnerving "black bomb (jerry in the bag)," an industrial-tinged panic-attack featuring vocals by trent reznor. Wink says it's not a blatant commercial move, that he always envisioned the song with lyrics, & reznor is simply someone he respects. The collaboration is a real coup, but wink has rebuffed any suggestions to release "black bomb" as a single. "i don't want to," he says tersely. "i just don't."

Even in 1998, including Trent Reznor on your obscure electronic music DJ release was seen as a commercial move. I guess Nine Inch Nails was just too pop!

screwdriver
08-21-2013, 11:44 AM
The number of @Leviathant (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1) smackdowns in this thread is unprecedented and amazing to watch.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 12:10 PM
Something else that got past you: Trent Reznor didn't do any of the music in Black Bomb. That's Josh's cat making all those weird noises. If you want more Black Bombs, maybe check out the rest of that album. Maybe you like it so much, you'd even buy it and send some money Josh's way. Josh did the music, sent a tape to Trent, who basically rearranged it and added vocals. It's funny how you say you didn't know anything about Black Bomb until yesterday, and yet somehow you're proclaiming "all Wink did was add some noodling at the beginning and end" as if you're some kind of expert. You're coming off like a blowhard.



Leviathant.....do you mind if I call you asshole instead? I doubt you're a sea monster, but I'm pretty sure you are an asshole. Asshole, there is nothing in Alex Wink's catalog that even sounds remotely like Black Bomb, not even on the record 'herehear', which like everything Wink records sounds like ambient house music. Funny then that this one song of Wink's sounds just like a NIN song huh? Here's what NIN Wiki sez:

Black Bomb (Jerry In The Bag) is a song by Wink, written by and featuring the vocals of Trent Reznor (http://www.ninwiki.com/Trent_Reznor).

The song featured on Wink's 1998 album "Herehear", and gave credits to Reznor under "vocals and additional stuff".
http://www.ninwiki.com/Black_Bomb_%28Jerry_In_The_Bag%29

Thanx for playing Asshole.

Amaro
08-21-2013, 12:14 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/08/22/tehe4ype.jpg

EndlessLoveless
08-21-2013, 12:22 PM
Leviathant.....do you mind if I call you asshole instead? I doubt you're a sea monster, but I'm pretty sure you are an asshole. Asshole, there is nothing in Alex Wink's catalog that even sounds remotely like Black Bomb, not even on the record 'herehear', which like everything Wink records sounds like ambient house music. Funny then that this one song of Wink's sounds just like a NIN song huh? Here's what NIN Wiki sez:

Black Bomb (Jerry In The Bag) is a song by Wink, written by and featuring the vocals of Trent Reznor (http://www.ninwiki.com/Trent_Reznor).

The song featured on Wink's 1998 album "Herehear", and gave credits to Reznor under "vocals and additional stuff".
http://www.ninwiki.com/Black_Bomb_(Jerry_In_The_Bag)

Thanx for playing Asshole.

woah, holy shit. just because there are 'industrial' noises doesnt mean TR did it. it doesnt totally sound like nin. and if TR did the music and vocals, why isnt it just a NIN song?

Promethean
08-21-2013, 12:30 PM
woah, holy shit. just because there are 'industrial' noises doesnt mean TR did it. it doesnt totally sound like nin. and if TR did the music and vocals, why isnt it just a NIN song?

Black Bomb (Jerry In The Bag) is a song by Wink, written by and featuring the vocals of Trent Reznor (http://www.ninwiki.com/Trent_Reznor).

The song featured on Wink's 1998 album "Herehear", and gave credits to Reznor under "vocals and additional stuff".
http://www.ninwiki.com/Black_Bomb_(Jerry_In_The_Bag) (http://www.ninwiki.com/Black_Bomb_%28Jerry_In_The_Bag%29)


Now please link me to the music of Josh Wink that sounds anything like Black Bomb. Thanx in advance.

Leviathant
08-21-2013, 12:30 PM
Leviathant.....do you mind if I call you asshole instead? I doubt you're a sea monster, but I'm pretty sure you are an asshole. Asshole, there is nothing in Alex Wink's catalog that even sounds remotely like Black Bomb, not even on the record 'herehear', which like everything Wink records sounds like ambient house music. Funny then that this one song of Wink's sounds just like a NIN song huh? Here's what NIN Wiki sez:

Black Bomb (Jerry In The Bag) is a song by Wink, written by and featuring the vocals of Trent Reznor (http://www.ninwiki.com/Trent_Reznor).

The song featured on Wink's 1998 album "Herehear", and gave credits to Reznor under "vocals and additional stuff".
http://www.ninwiki.com/Black_Bomb_(Jerry_In_The_Bag)

Thanx for playing Asshole.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwccg5UinH1r75i3co1_500.gif

I'll have to go in and fix that entry, because whoever wrote it didn't have their facts straight. It's all good though, because I'm an admin on NIN Wiki. I by no means run it, but I talk to the guy who does. Every. Day. You know who might know more than a casual editor of a fan-run wiki? An asshole who has been reporting on NIN news since 1997 (http://theninhotline.net/news/archives/), who's copied a thousand articles (http://theninhotline.net/archives/articles/manager/list_articles.php) into his own database, read thousands more, and who has the contents of Interscope's Nine Inch Nails press archive from 1994-1996 sitting in a box in his closet. (A donation, not something I sought out.) Maybe someone who first heard The Fragile when Trent sent him a signed copy (http://www.nincatalog.com/item.asp?key=01-01441) before it was out. I mean, we're scratching the surface here. When USA Today and KROQ LA wanted to talk to someone about the Year Zero ARG, they called me.

Maybe I'm not being an asshole, maybe you're upset that I publicly corrected some misconceptions you publicly had, and you're butthurt.

Or maybe you're right about this Wink song, and I'm an asshole that doesn't know what I'm talking about.

I mean, if you'd called me a loser who knows way entirely too much about Nine Inch Nails and Trent Reznor, you'd be spot on. But you're trying to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about on matters relating to Nine Inch Nails and Trent Reznor. And now you're doing it with bravado.

This isn't a contest, man. All I'm saying is you're wrong. You can take my word for it, or you can keep Googling and hoping you're not wrong. But you'll find out you're wrong.

chroipahtz
08-21-2013, 12:33 PM
I don't know anything about Josh Wink or Black Bomb, but ninwiki isn't exactly a reliable, irrefutable resource. Especially on an article as obscure as that where it would rarely be seen or challenged.

Edit: Not disparaging ninwiki here, but it's a wiki for crying out loud.

sheepdean
08-21-2013, 12:35 PM
Leviathant - it DOES say "additional stuff" in the liner notes, but Promethean that DOESN'T refer to music. ( http://www.discogs.com/Wink-Herehear/release/794933 )

Everyone cool?

EndlessLoveless
08-21-2013, 12:35 PM
Black Bomb (Jerry In The Bag) is a song by Wink, written by and featuring the vocals of Trent Reznor (http://www.ninwiki.com/Trent_Reznor).

The song featured on Wink's 1998 album "Herehear", and gave credits to Reznor under "vocals and additional stuff".
http://www.ninwiki.com/Black_Bomb_(Jerry_In_The_Bag)


Now please link me to the music of Josh Wink that sounds anything like Black Bomb. Thanx in advance.

Sorry dude, i havent listened to Josh Wink since like 95. But im pretty sure TR hasnt used cheesy preset drum machine turntable sounds since the 80's. But im sure someone will post a link to prove me wrong.....let the games begin.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 12:38 PM
Maybe I'm not being an asshole, maybe you're upset that I publicly corrected some misconceptions you publicly had, and you're butthurt..

Are you talking about me Asshole? Or you? I seem to remember you responding to my query by calling me a blowhard. So who was it that was wrong? You. You were wrong. Who was it who got butthurt? You. You got butthurt. I'm still waiting for links to alllllllll that music by Josh Wink that sounds like Black Bomb and not ambient house music. I guess Wink must have been working on that ONE SONG THAT SOUNDS LIKE NIN for years, just waiting for the possibility of working with Trent Reznor. Right asshole? You been researching and reading NIN for decades but you're too stupid to recognize a NIN song when you hear it. Also Asshole, Trent wrote 'Hurt', not Johnny Cash.

Leviathant
08-21-2013, 12:42 PM
Also Asshole, Trent wrote 'Hurt', not Johnny Cash.


WRONG AGAIN ASSHOLE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvYMrqMwadY)

Promethean
08-21-2013, 12:47 PM
@Leviathant (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1) - it DOES say "additional stuff" in the liner notes, but @Promethean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1028) that DOESN'T refer to music. ( http://www.discogs.com/Wink-Herehear/release/794933 )

Everyone cool?

What does it refer to broken? Please provide links to music made my Josh Wink that sounds like Black Bomb and not ambient house. Thanx in advance.

We're just supposed to believe that an artist who never once made music that sounded like NIN, not even close, suddenly makes a song that sounds like NIN, coincidentally just when he collaborates w/ TR. Yeah right.

Jinsai
08-21-2013, 12:48 PM
Leviathant.....do you mind if I call you asshole instead? I doubt you're a sea monster, but I'm pretty sure you are an asshole. Asshole, there is nothing in Alex Wink's catalog that even sounds remotely like Black Bomb, not even on the record 'herehear', which like everything Wink records sounds like ambient house music. Funny then that this one song of Wink's sounds just like a NIN song huh? Here's what NIN Wiki sez:

Black Bomb (Jerry In The Bag) is a song by Wink, written by and featuring the vocals of Trent Reznor (http://www.ninwiki.com/Trent_Reznor).

The song featured on Wink's 1998 album "Herehear", and gave credits to Reznor under "vocals and additional stuff".
http://www.ninwiki.com/Black_Bomb_(Jerry_In_The_Bag)

Thanx for playing Asshole.

Who is Alex Wink?

EndlessLoveless
08-21-2013, 12:51 PM
What does it refer to broken? Please provide links to music made my Josh Wink that sounds like Black Bomb and not ambient house. Thanx in advance.

Josh Wink- Angel
Bet you never heard that one!! Its a deep cut.

sheepdean
08-21-2013, 12:53 PM
What does it refer to broken? Please provide links to music made my Josh Wink that sounds like Black Bomb and not ambient house. Thanx in advance.
It's acid house, not ambient house, get your genres right man.

And from what I know, Wink wrote a track, couldn't get a decent singer and his manager said "this Trent guy is good". Apparently Wink wasn't even really into NIN. Trent rolled up, laid down the vocals and collected his $5 and milkshake.

Also, people are claiming that Everything doesn't sound like NIN. Does that mean someone else had a hand in it or does it mean musicians can sometimes step out of their comfort zones? Maybe Trent AND Josh are both able to make music that doesn't always sound the same?

sheepdean
08-21-2013, 12:55 PM
Josh Wink- Angel
Bet you never heard that one!! Its a deep cut.
http://i.imgur.com/XS5LK.gif

EndlessLoveless
08-21-2013, 12:56 PM
What does it refer to broken? Please provide links to music made my Josh Wink that sounds like Black Bomb and not ambient house. Thanx in advance.

We're just supposed to believe that an artist who never once made music that sounded like NIN, not even close, suddenly makes a song that sounds like NIN, coincidentally just when he collaborates w/ TR. Yeah right.

And its quite possible that other people can make music that sounds like nin. I know that is a crazy idea to grasp. But im sure youve heard the garbage that is called stabbing westward or gravity kills. Sorry SW or GK fans...just making a point.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 12:57 PM
Josh Wink- Angel
Bet you never heard that one!! Its a deep cut.

That's because it doesn't exist. If it did, it would sound like house music and nothing like NIN.

EndlessLoveless
08-21-2013, 12:58 PM
Ok what about his cover of comfortably numb with bowie and david gilmour???
Classic track bro.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 12:58 PM
It's acid house, not ambient house, get your genres right man.

And from what I know, Wink wrote a track, couldn't get a decent singer and his manager said "this Trent guy is good". Apparently Wink wasn't even really into NIN. Trent rolled up, laid down the vocals and collected his $5 and milkshake.

Also, people are claiming that Everything doesn't sound like NIN. Does that mean someone else had a hand in it or does it mean musicians can sometimes step out of their comfort zones? Maybe Trent AND Josh are both able to make music that doesn't always sound the same?

Please provide link to anything Josh Wink has recorded that doesn't sound like house and sounds like NIN. He's not capable of writing anything like that. Thanx in advance.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 01:00 PM
Who is Alex Wink?

He's a guy who added some DJ noodling to a song Trent Reznor wrote and sang on called 'Black Bomb(jerry in the bag).

r_z
08-21-2013, 01:03 PM
We're just supposed to believe that an artist who never once made music that sounded like NIN, not even close, suddenly makes a song that sounds like NIN, coincidentally just when he collaborates w/ TR. Yeah right.

Well, maybe this is the reason why the song sucks so horribly? Just a guess here...

gorast
08-21-2013, 01:03 PM
Jesus fucking Christ, this thread is simultaneously the best and worst thing I've ever seen on ETS.

Someone make a radio drama out of Leviathant v. Promethean.

Jinsai
08-21-2013, 01:03 PM
He's a guy who added some DJ noodling to a song Trent Reznor wrote and sang on called 'Black Bomb(jerry in the bag).

are Josh Wink and Alex Wink the same person?

Promethean
08-21-2013, 01:05 PM
are Josh Wink and Alex Wink the same person?

Don't think so but if Alex Wink went into the studio and made music, IT would sound closer to NIN than anything Josh Wink has ever recorded.

sheepdean
08-21-2013, 01:05 PM
Please provide link to anything Josh Wink has recorded that doesn't sound like house and sounds like NIN. He's not capable of writing anything like that. Thanx in advance.
The clasically trained musician, who can play piano, clarinet, guitar and drums, who uses complex samples and intentional mistakes to create music through chaos within his music? Yes, Josh Wink is incapable of anything but house because that's the genre he's chosen. Clearly.

KarenLeslie
08-21-2013, 01:08 PM
are Josh Wink and Alex Wink the same person?

I like to think he's an evil twin, a sort of Shadow-Wink whom Josh Wink must defeat so he can continue his DJ noodling in peace.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 01:09 PM
Yes, Josh Wink is incapable of anything but house because that's the genre he's chosen. Clearly.

Please provide links to the music made by Josh Wink that sounds like NIN. Thanx in advance.

screwdriver
08-21-2013, 01:09 PM
What does it refer to broken? Please provide links to music made my Josh Wink that sounds like Black Bomb and not ambient house. Thanx in advance.

We're just supposed to believe that an artist who never once made music that sounded like NIN, not even close, suddenly makes a song that sounds like NIN, coincidentally just when he collaborates w/ TR. Yeah right.

I feel like you are radically overestimating both how hard it is to make imitations of NIN and also how much Black Bomb sounds like a NIN song.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 01:10 PM
I like to think he's an evil twin, a sort of Shadow-Wink whom Josh Wink must defeat so he can continue his DJ noodling in peace.

So Alex Wink is the one who sounds like NIN, not Josh Wink. Gotcha.

ChrisNotKiw
08-21-2013, 01:11 PM
I feel like you are radically overestimating both how hard it is to make imitations of NIN and also how much Black Bomb sounds like a NIN song.

Please provide a link to the overestimation.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 01:11 PM
I feel like you are radically overestimating both how hard it is to make imitations of NIN and also how much Black Bomb sounds like a NIN song.

I'm starting to get the feeling that most of the idiots here have mistaken Paul Oakenfold for NIN and are here by mistake. If you can't recognize a NIN song, you should just go to the Fall Out Boy board instead.

sheepdean
08-21-2013, 01:12 PM
Please provide links to the music made by Josh Wink that sounds like NIN. Thanx in advance.
Please provide link to music that sounds like NIN. Please tell me what NIN's sound it. Please show how Kinda I Want To and Theme for Tetsuo share a sound, how Ghosts 1 and Ghosts 2 sound similar, how the first and last tracks off any album share any level of similarity. There is no "NIN sound". And even if there was, JOSH WROTE THE FUCKING SONG BEFORE TRENT GOT INVOLVED.

broevol
08-21-2013, 01:12 PM
Please provide a link to the overestimation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2BScOV926U

chroipahtz
08-21-2013, 01:13 PM
I'm starting to get the feeling that most of the idiots here have mistaken Paul Oakenfold for NIN and are here by mistake. If you can't recognize a NIN song, you should just go to the Fall Out Boy board instead.
What is it with morons and making false equivalences and sweeping generalizations of other bands they don't like? There must be some psychological meat here to discover.

goingincirclez
08-21-2013, 01:13 PM
... Please show how kinda i want to and theme for tetsuo share a sound, how ghosts 1 and ghosts 2 sound similar, how the first and last tracks off any album share any level of similarity...

thread. Won. Done.

Jinsai
08-21-2013, 01:14 PM
I don't know about how hard it is to make an imitation of Nine Inch Nails. I mean, Weird Al did a pretty good job with that Germs song.

Also, I heard if you take Josh Wink's new song "Balls," slow it down 15 bpm, run it through a bitcrusher, and sing something like "I fade away, in the day, so stay away, from the fray" on top of it, it suddenly "sounds like NIN."

Promethean
08-21-2013, 01:16 PM
JOSH WROTE THE FUCKING SONG BEFORE TRENT GOT INVOLVED.

He is not capable of writing a song like Black Bomb. He is a house artist. Trent wrote the music, Wink added the DJ noodling.

chroipahtz
08-21-2013, 01:17 PM
He is not capable of writing a song like Black Bomb. He is a house artist. Trent wrote the music, Wink added the DJ noodling.
Promethean is starting to remind me of Wesley Willis. Just read that last post in his voice.

EndlessLoveless
08-21-2013, 01:19 PM
Please provide links to the music made by Josh Wink that sounds like NIN. Thanx in advance.

How about this...ok dude you are right. TR wrote the whole song. You really know the "NIN" sound. You are a "true fan"! Nice detective work!!

Feel better?

Moving on...... to what i dont know, but moving on nonetheless...

Promethean
08-21-2013, 01:19 PM
Let's play a game.....let's figure out which NIN song these Josh Wink songs sound most like! Ready! Okay!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOXw1xz-c8w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQhPYa6EnFo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArQI-OS5jeQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFfydjatQMU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SDVijI3wy8

goingincirclez
08-21-2013, 01:19 PM
Also, I heard if you take Josh Wink's new song "Balls," slow it down 15 bpm, run it through a bitcrusher, and sing something like "I fade away, in the day, so stay away, from the fray" on top of it, it suddenly "sounds like NIN."

Oooh! Then you can mix that with a certain infamous soundtrack work, and get "Balls Deep" and pass that as the oft-sought sequel to "Closer"!

Promethean
08-21-2013, 01:21 PM
How about this...ok dude you are right. TR wrote the whole song. You really know the "NIN" sound. You are a "true fan"! Nice detective work!!



Thanx for acknowledging the obvious, now go listen to a Nine Inch Nails record for the first time in your life. And no......Nine Inch Nails isn't spelled 'Paul Oakenfold'. Good luck.

tony.parente
08-21-2013, 01:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2BScOV926U

Oh my god that is dead on.
It's perfect.
I love it so much.

Jinsai
08-21-2013, 01:23 PM
And no......Nine Inch Nails isn't spelled 'Paul Oakenfold'. Good luck.

While you are obviously a very funny person, I would like to take this moment to point out that Josh Wink isn't spelled 'Paul Oakenfold' either, whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 01:24 PM
While you are obviously a very funny person, I would like to take this moment to point out that Josh Wink isn't spelled 'Paul Oakenfold' either, whatever the fuck that's supposed to mean.

The reading comprehension..........IT BURRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSS!

Promethean
08-21-2013, 01:26 PM
Oh my god that is dead on.
It's perfect.
I love it so much.

One the one hand it intimates that there is a NIN sound, then fails utterly to reproduce that sound. Much in the way that Josh Wink failed utterly at sounding like NIN......until he collaborated with Trent Reznor coincidentally enough.

EndlessLoveless
08-21-2013, 01:26 PM
Thanx for acknowledging the obvious, now go listen to a Nine Inch Nails record for the first time in your life. And no......Nine Inch Nails isn't spelled 'Paul Oakenfold'. Good luck.

To the biggest josh wink fan EVER-
Go to the josh wink forum and just rule.
I will go and listen to nin for the first time ever.
Paul Oakenfold????? What does that even mean?

screwdriver
08-21-2013, 01:27 PM
I'm starting to get the feeling that most of the idiots here have mistaken Paul Oakenfold for NIN and are here by mistake. If you can't recognize a NIN song, you should just go to the Fall Out Boy board instead.

shit, you're right

link pls

broevol
08-21-2013, 01:37 PM
.....the shit we do to pass the leaky time.

rhet
08-21-2013, 01:39 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2BScOV926U

i'm going to have this stuck in my head for ages now. I AM I AM TRENT REZNOR

Leviathant
08-21-2013, 01:43 PM
Blow harder! Okay, seriously, let's cut it out with the personal attacks.
Promethean - tell you what. Next time I talk to Trent, maybe when he's in Philadelphia (Hell, maybe Alex Josh will be at the show, it's his home turf), I'll ask him about Black Bomb. He's going to say "Josh sent me this track, I edited it some, and added singing to it. He thought the vocals were too high, and mixed them back down."

It's okay if you don't like "Everything."

Amaro
08-21-2013, 01:46 PM
So this thread has served as one of many moments in divisive NIN history. It's been a pleasure to have been here.

Also, I'm now compelled to check out Erasure, One Direction, and maybe both of the Winks. Maybe even Paul Oakenfold.

EndlessLoveless
08-21-2013, 01:57 PM
So this thread has served as one of many moments in divisive NIN history. It's been a pleasure to have been here.

Also, I'm now compelled to check out Erasure, One Direction, and maybe both of the Winks. Maybe even Paul Oakenfold.

Agreed. The everything thread smells alot better now (which isnt very good to begin with). Fuck i hate that i am TR video. It reduces NIN to a simple formula which isnt the case. If it were, we would have a new album every two years. I know its a joke, but fuck man. The only song that sounds like is my violent heart, for like a minute and a half.

Who knew black bomb would cause such a shitstorm however many years later........hilarious

BenAkenobi
08-21-2013, 02:00 PM
i wanna wink you like an animal

tony.parente
08-21-2013, 02:00 PM
One the one hand it intimates that there is a NIN sound, then fails utterly to reproduce that sound. Much in the way that Josh Wink failed utterly at sounding like NIN......until he collaborated with Trent Reznor coincidentally enough.

It perfectly reproduces the sound lmao

OSLIN
08-21-2013, 02:02 PM
Has anyone heard the NIN song I'm Afraid of Americans featuring that hack David Bowie?

chroipahtz
08-21-2013, 02:02 PM
Who knew black bomb would cause such a shitstorm however many years later........hilarious
It wasn't really Black Bomb, it was the attitude of the guy pushing it.

EndlessLoveless
08-21-2013, 02:06 PM
It wasn't really Black Bomb, it was the attitude of the guy pushing it.

Yep that too. Josh winks biggest fan! Or Alex wink or whatever. I still like everything better.

WorzelG
08-21-2013, 02:08 PM
So this thread has served as one of many moments in divisive NIN history. It's been a pleasure to have been here.

Also, I'm now compelled to check out Erasure, One Direction, and maybe both of the Winks. Maybe even Paul Oakenfold.

'A Little Respect' by Erasure is one of my favourite songs

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:10 PM
Blow harder! Okay, seriously, let's cut it out with the personal attacks.
@Promethean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1028) - tell you what. Next time I talk to Trent, maybe when he's in Philadelphia (Hell, maybe Alex Josh will be at the show, it's his home turf), I'll ask him about Black Bomb. He's going to say "Josh sent me this track, I edited it some, and added singing to it. He thought the vocals were too high, and mixed them back down."

It's okay if you don't like "Everything."

I do like Everything, just not all of it. I'm still waiting for someone, anyone, to show me ANYTHING from Josh Wink's catalog that sounds remotely like Nine Inch Nails so I might believe he actually wrote Black Bomb. Not all NIN music sounds alike, neither do all Bruce Springsteen songs, but you damn well know it's Bruce Springsteen when you hear it. Black Bomb was clearly written by Reznor. For those lacking common sense: two artists worked on a song. The song sounds like something from one artists catalog, but sounds nothing like the other artists catalog. Logic and reason would demand that the song was mostly a result of the artist who's catalog of music it most closely resembles. The lack of reading comprehension and reasoning capacity on this thread is mind numbing. Leviathant or Asshole, whichever you prefer......YOU ARE KING OF THE NIN FANS, mmmmmmkaaaaaaaay? No one's trying to take that away from you little buddy.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:11 PM
It wasn't really Black Bomb, it was the attitude of the guy pushing it.

I believe the phrase is 'butthurt'. You were butthurt!

Mark Fraser
08-21-2013, 02:12 PM
95% of Black Bomb sounds nothing like NIN has ever produced.

There are some unique sounds within the song that sound very Trent like, but the song as a whole is nothing like anything Trent has ever done - especially at that time.

To me, it sounds like a song that Wink wrote and shipped over to Trent to do the vocals and a bit of polishing - which is exactly what our dear leader is telling us.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:15 PM
Oh Asshole, you had start a new thread with a misleading header to make yourself not look like a butthurt, pissy bitch who knows a lot less about Nine Inch Nails than you claim. How utterly charming!

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:15 PM
95% of Black Bomb sounds nothing like NIN has ever produced.

There are some unique sounds within the song that sound very Trent like, but the song as a whole is nothing like anything Trent has ever done - especially at that time.

To me, it sounds like a song that Wink wrote and shipped over to Trent to do the vocals and a bit of polishing - which is exactly what our dear leader is telling us.

Does it sound like anything Josh Wink has recorded? Please include links if so.

OSLIN
08-21-2013, 02:19 PM
Does it sound like anything Josh Wink has recorded? Please include links if so.

Could Josh Wink have written it with Trent Reznor in mind?

GFGohmann
08-21-2013, 02:20 PM
Could Josh Wink have written it with Trent Reznor in mind?

Only one way to know for sure... SHOW ME SOME LINKS!!!

broevol
08-21-2013, 02:21 PM
Does it sound like anything Josh Wink has recorded? Please include links if so.
Yes, this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k859mg6wPuE

chroipahtz
08-21-2013, 02:22 PM
Only one way to know for sure... SHOW ME SOME LINKS!!!
I heard Obama's birth certificate isn't legit because it was signed by Trent Reznor while he was at a One Direction concert.

KarenLeslie
08-21-2013, 02:22 PM
For those lacking common sense: two artists worked on a song. The song sounds like something from one artists catalog, but sounds nothing like the other artists catalog. Logic and reason would demand that the song was mostly a result of the artist who's catalog of music it most closely resembles.

Logic fails when it's based on a bunch of questionable assumptions. Your questionable assumptions include:

1)There is some kind of definable "I know it when I hear it" NIN sound (many people don't think so, especially when the catalog includes stuff as diverse as Happiness in Slavery and Leaving Hope.)
2) Black Bomb sounds a lot like a NIN song (many people don't think so)
3) Josh Wink is physically, genetically incapable of writing a song that sounds anything like this alleged NIN-brand sound (many people don't think so, plus, ILLOGICAL; how can you know what he is and isn't capable of writing?)
4) Trent would let Wink take primary writing credit for a song that he himself wrote all of for (checks watch) 15 years- doesn't sound like a very T-Rez thing to do.

I'm not overly concerned about Black Bomb or whatever else is being argued over, I'm just pointing this out because you seem to like to think of yourself as a man of logic; you won't get credit for producing supposed logical arguments when these arguments depend entirely on priori conditions that are either tenuous or illogical in and of themselves. It's a good thing to learn, whatever the provocation.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:23 PM
Yes, this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k859mg6wPuE

Oh, that's because Trent Reznor actually wrote the music and lyrics. The only thing I'm not clear on is who produced.

KrakenWakes
08-21-2013, 02:23 PM
Someone please provide me with a link out of this thread.

OSLIN
08-21-2013, 02:24 PM
Only one way to know for sure... SHOW ME SOME LINKS!!!

http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u344/joslinin/images1_zps562484b0.jpg (http://s518.photobucket.com/user/joslinin/media/images1_zps562484b0.jpg.html)

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:25 PM
There is some kind of definable "I know it when I hear it" NIN sound (many people don't think so, especially when the catalog includes stuff as diverse as Happiness in Slavery and Leaving Hope.)

Then why are so many people complaining about Everything? Because it doesn't sound enough like Josh Wink? Or Fall Out Boy?

broevol
08-21-2013, 02:25 PM
Someone please provide me with a link out of this thread.

http://www.outofthisthread.com

Ichiro
08-21-2013, 02:26 PM
"Levianthant, or Asshole as he is know here, continues to insist that Everything was actually written by Josh Wink and that Reznor had almost nothing to do with it. Is that why this doesn't really sound so much like NIN? BTW Leviathant/Asshole insists that Josh Wink sounds almost exactly like Nine Inch Nails. Doesn't seem that way to me, but maybe Leviathant/Asshole doesn't know much about music. What say you ETS community?"

Can someone ban this clown?

This is unrelated but its nice to see the site so lively for a change.

GFGohmann
08-21-2013, 02:26 PM
http://i518.photobucket.com/albums/u344/joslinin/images1_zps562484b0.jpg (http://s518.photobucket.com/user/joslinin/media/images1_zps562484b0.jpg.html)

That artwork was obviously created by Trent Reznor, and Wink just did some doodling at the beginning and end.

sheepdean
08-21-2013, 02:28 PM
Promethean you never actually addressed this whilst claiming Wink can't do anything but House, you just asked for links whilst ignoring the actual context
The clasically trained musician, who can play piano, clarinet, guitar and drums, who uses complex samples and intentional mistakes to create music through chaos within his music? Yes, Josh Wink is incapable of anything but house because that's the genre he's chosen. Clearly.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:29 PM
No one has provided a link to music by Wink that sounds anything other than ambient house. Since no one can provide proof, it must accepted that no proof exists. I'm arguing with people who know nothing about music, and for the most part don't even like NIN, but I'm bored.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:31 PM
All of them loved it, the resonating opinion from the night was "I wish Trent Reznor would make more songs like this"


Did they confuse him w/ Josh Wink? He's the brains behind Trent or so sez Leviathant.

ComradeCornhole
08-21-2013, 02:31 PM
"Levianthant, or Asshole as he is know here, continues to insist that Everything was actually written by Josh Wink and that Reznor had almost nothing to do with it. Is that why this doesn't really sound so much like NIN? BTW Leviathant/Asshole insists that Josh Wink sounds almost exactly like Nine Inch Nails. Doesn't seem that way to me, but maybe Leviathant/Asshole doesn't know much about music. What say you ETS community?"

Can someone ban this clown?

This is unrelated but its nice to see the site so lively for a change.

LOLWUT?? Where did this take place?

sheepdean
08-21-2013, 02:31 PM
...I think I know a little about music, and I think I like NIN.

Josh Wink. Classically trained musician. Can play many instruments including clarinet (which is a sign he's not just pressing buttons). Uses complex musical techniques in his chosen genre. What makes you think he can only do one genre? If Bruce Springsteen put out a rap record, would you say it was impossible as he'd never tried that before, rather than accepting some musicians elect to play in one genre most of the time? Trent, for example, has chosen pop-metal, and that has worked wonders for him.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:33 PM
^^ ^^

I called out Leviathant, he thought he knew something he didn't, he got butthurt and shut down the thread, then he moved it to it's own thread with a misleading header. Here it is:
http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/2123-Nine-Inch-Nails-quot-Everything-quot-sounds-just-like-quot-Black-Bomb-quot-by-Josh-Wink

KarenLeslie
08-21-2013, 02:35 PM
No one has provided a link to music by Wink that sounds anything other than ambient house. Since no one can provide proof, it must accepted that no proof exists.

If you don't refute, in detail, my analysis of why your logic does not hold water, it must be accepted that you are incapable of refuting it, and are therefore not only wrong but know that you are wrong.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:38 PM
Okay, could you harken back to Wink's catalog and think of a song that sounded NIN-ish and not his usual acid house sound? Could you listen to Black Bomb and tell me which of the two musicians catalog does the song more closely approximate? Again, I'll note that NIN Wiki states Reznor wrote the music.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:41 PM
All you have to do, is point me some music Wink has made that might indicate he could have written Black Bomb. You can't, so you'll go round and round and say nothing.

OSLIN
08-21-2013, 02:42 PM
Okay, could you harken back to Wink's catalog and think of a song that sounded NIN-ish and not his usual acid house sound? Could you listen to Black Bomb and tell me which of the two musicians catalog does the song more closely approximate? Again, I'll note that NIN Wiki states Reznor wrote the music.

Could Josh Wink have written it with Trent Reznor in mind?
Answer please.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:42 PM
What makes you think he can only do one genre?

The fact that no one here can find anything other than house music from Josh Wink?

gorast
08-21-2013, 02:43 PM
How is this even still happening? Jesus, dude, just drop it.

EndlessLoveless
08-21-2013, 02:44 PM
Okay, could you harken back to Wink's catalog and think of a song that sounded NIN-ish and not his usual acid house sound? Could you listen to Black Bomb and tell me which of the two musicians catalog does the song more closely approximate? Again, I'll note that NIN Wiki states Reznor wrote the music.

Cause the nin wiki is the be all end all, right? Not.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:44 PM
Could Josh Wink have written it with Trent Reznor in mind?
Answer please.

Possibly, but there's nothing in his catalog of music that sounds even remotely like that, I've asked several times for something but people take it as a challenge to be more ironic than the last guy. If someone could show me something Wink did that has that sound or approach I might be able to believe he wrote it. I've yet to see anything other than weak attempts at humor.

Leviathant
08-21-2013, 02:45 PM
All you have to do, is point me some music Wink has made that might indicate he could have written Black Bomb. You can't, so you'll go round and round and say nothing.

Counterpoint: What Nine Inch Nails song sounds like Black Bomb?

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:46 PM
Cause the nin wiki is the be all end all, right? Not.

Uh, the word of a butthurt asshole named Leviathan is?

EndlessLoveless
08-21-2013, 02:47 PM
Possibly, but there's nothing in his catalog of music that sounds even remotely like that, I've asked several times for something but people take it as a challenge to be more ironic than the last guy. If someone could show me something Wink did that has that sound or approach I might be able to believe he wrote it. I've yet to see anything other than weak attempts at humor.I don't think anyone gives enough of a shit to go through josh winks discography, sorry dude.

KarenLeslie
08-21-2013, 02:47 PM
All you have to do, is point me some music Wink has made that might indicate he could have written Black Bomb. You can't, so you'll go round and round and say nothing.

Why do you need proof that he's written another song that sounded like Black Bomb? Do you think musicians are completely incapable of experimenting and trying different things? You are the only one who seems to think this kind of "proof" is required or makes any sense in the first place.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:48 PM
Counterpoint: What Nine Inch Nails song sounds like Black Bomb?

Sounds like an amalgam of YZ songs with a melody from Antichrist Superstar thrown in at the end.

OSLIN
08-21-2013, 02:48 PM
Counterpoint: What Nine Inch Nails song sounds like Black Bomb?

He's just gonna say all of Year Zero.
Beat him to it!

EDIT: Told ya

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:49 PM
Why do you need proof that he's written another song that sounded like Black Bomb? Do you think musicians are completely incapable of experimenting and trying different things? You are the only one who seems to think this kind of "proof" is required or makes any sense in the first place.

You couldn't find anything either huh? People sound like themselves no matter how far they try to branch out.

ComradeCornhole
08-21-2013, 02:49 PM
Okay, Prom'... after perusing the content of your kerfuffle with Leviathant, all I have to say is... Dude, not even once.

frankie teardrop
08-21-2013, 02:50 PM
it's just so amazingly stupid, presumptuous, and close-minded to assume that just because a musician chooses to operate in his genre of choice, he or she is never capable of breaking out of that comfort zone, especially when writing for someone in mind.


@spahn (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=21) - perfect example.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:50 PM
He's just gonna say all of Year Zero.
Beat him to it!

EDIT: Told ya

He's just gonna predict I'm gonna say Year Zero.

EDIT: told ya so!

BRoswell
08-21-2013, 02:50 PM
Did they confuse him w/ Josh Wink? He's the brains behind Trent or so sez Leviathant.

When did this happen again?

spahn
08-21-2013, 02:51 PM
You couldn't find anything either huh? People sound like themselves no matter how far they try to branch out.

Uh, no. Ministry's twelve inch singles sounds NOTHING like Psalm 69.

And I seriously need the facepalm option!

KarenLeslie
08-21-2013, 02:51 PM
You couldn't find anything either huh?

No, I wouldn't even try to look, because there's no need.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:52 PM
it's just so amazingly stupid, presumptuous, and close-minded to assume that just because a musician chooses to operate in his genre of choice, he or she is never capable of breaking out of that comfort zone, especially when writing for someone in mind.

Could you provide an example of Josh Wink trying to break out a comfort zone? One that wasn't written by Trent Reznor?

tony.parente
08-21-2013, 02:52 PM
The music on black bomb honestly doesn't sound like something trent would have written, even during that time period.

I would love for trent to tweet/write a post or w/e just so this dude could get publicly destroyed.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:52 PM
No, I wouldn't even try to look, because there's no need.

The need to make a vapid comment was enough huh?

sheepdean
08-21-2013, 02:53 PM
Promethean, do you think Trent wrote the music for Suck too?

tony.parente
08-21-2013, 02:53 PM
Uh, the word of a butthurt asshole named @Leviathant is?

You done goofed.

And honestly, i'd trust the levis word over some random 50 post wise guy with no credibility personally.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:55 PM
The music on black bomb honestly doesn't sound like something trent would have written, even during that time period.

I would love for trent to tweet/write a post or w/e just so this dude could get publicly destroyed.

You're right, it would sound more like Everything if he did.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:56 PM
Black Bomb (Jerry In The Bag) Black Bomb (Jerry In The Bag) is a song by Wink, written by and featuring the vocals of Trent Reznor (http://www.ninwiki.com/Trent_Reznor).
The song featured on Wink's 1998 album "Herehear", and gave credits to Reznor under "vocals and additional stuff".


Contents [hide]


1 Versions (http://www.ninwiki.com/Black_Bomb_%28Jerry_In_The_Bag%29#Versions)

1.1 Black Bomb (Jerry In The Bag) (http://www.ninwiki.com/Black_Bomb_%28Jerry_In_The_Bag%29#Black_Bomb_.28Je rry_In_The_Bag.29)


2 Appearances (http://www.ninwiki.com/Black_Bomb_%28Jerry_In_The_Bag%29#Appearances)
3 Lyrics (http://www.ninwiki.com/Black_Bomb_%28Jerry_In_The_Bag%29#Lyrics)




Versions Black Bomb (Jerry In The Bag) This is the only known version
Appearances

Herehear - Wink

Lyrics
Taking over, assisting with my revelation Empty spaces, as if it was an invitation Your invasion, exceeding every expectation Now I feed from the many mouths of your persuasion Resurrection, infection, as I fade away There's no fear, there is nothing left to make me stay Fitting in my new skin, just tell me what to do I'm defined, I am blind, I am a part of you Big black bomb, attack Break down resistance, fight back Big black bomb, attack Break down resistance, fight back Category (http://www.ninwiki.com/Special:Categories): Related to NIN (http://www.ninwiki.com/Category:Related_to_NIN)

Leviathant
08-21-2013, 02:56 PM
At this point, the guy's straight trolling. Neat trick: Don't reply, and the thread goes away on its own. @Promethean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1028) - Please, I'm glad you found a new word, butthurt. Please, use it again, just... not in this thread.

You also can stop quoting NINwiki. Sheepdean literally wrote that article (http://www.ninwiki.com/index.php?title=Black_Bomb_(Jerry_In_The_Bag)&action=history). Your sole source for the notion that Trent wrote the song is actually arguing with you. I mean, if it helps, I can ask sheepdean to update it, now that we've had this enlightening conversation.

sheepdean
08-21-2013, 02:56 PM
I should point out, I think I wrote that page. And at no point did I say Trent wrote the music on there.

KrakenWakes
08-21-2013, 02:59 PM
http://www.outofthisthread.com
I'll admit it. I clicked on it. With the tiniest bit of hope.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 02:59 PM
@Promethean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1028) , do you think Trent wrote the music for Suck too?

He did write 'Suck'. He co wrote it with the other guys in Pigface.

spahn
08-21-2013, 02:59 PM
i reached out to Josh via twitter. maybe he'll reply, probably he won't. but if he does, I'll be sure to post.

Tiz
08-21-2013, 02:59 PM
He's just gonna predict I'm gonna say Year Zero.

EDIT: told ya so!

Promethean,

Of all things to blow your e-load on, you chose a crappy, tinny sounding song that sounds NOTHING like Trent would write. I don't think you know what the fuck you're talking about.

- The production on "Black Bomb" is worse than Kanye's newest record.
- Bleep-bloop-bleep-bloop does not constitute an NIN song.
- The writing credits list this Wink dude. Not TR.
- I trust copyrights over your goofy ass.
- Lick some fly paper, and stare at the sun.

KarenLeslie
08-21-2013, 02:59 PM
@Promethean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1028) : I know you won't believe it, but I'm actually trying to help you. If you are seriously going through life with that "I'm smarter than everybody else because LOGIC!" attitude, you are probably in for some rough times.

EDIT: Read Leviathant's post, social outreach time over.

Shadaloo
08-21-2013, 03:01 PM
I heard Trent wrote "Metal" for that guy on Seinfeld

Promethean
08-21-2013, 03:02 PM
At this point, the guy's straight trolling. Neat trick: Don't reply, and the thread goes away on its own. @Promethean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1028) - Please, I'm glad you found a new word, butthurt. Please, use it again, just... not in this thread.

You also can stop quoting NINwiki. Sheepdean literally wrote that article (http://www.ninwiki.com/index.php?title=Black_Bomb_(Jerry_In_The_Bag)&action=history). Your sole source for the notion that Trent wrote the song is actually arguing with you. I mean, if it helps, I can ask @sheepdean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=350) to update it, now that we've had this enlightening conversation.

Asshole, did I really say that Everything sounds like it was written by Josh Wink? Or was your intentional mis-statement of my position the petulant act of , yes, a butthurt individual who views himself as an authority but got shown up?

OSLIN
08-21-2013, 03:02 PM
I should point out, I think I wrote that page. And at no point did I say Trent wrote the music on there.

You didn't write the page, you just did some "doodling".

Tiz
08-21-2013, 03:03 PM
Seriously. Someone get this internet warrior a jigsaw puzzle, caffeine free root beer, and a fucking chaperone.

sheepdean
08-21-2013, 03:03 PM
He did write 'Suck'. He co wrote it with the other guys in Pigface.
"the other guys"
Nah, Trent wrote the lyrics and Atkins wrote almost all of the music (iirc, Trent did some tweaks). Trent is a good musician, but he didn't write everything ever. Here, have a track with Trent on that he did very, very little on, but still sounds good due to his MINOR tweaks.
http://open.spotify.com/track/6QdVcTh95STowQFHUIIoQS

Promethean
08-21-2013, 03:04 PM
He didn't write Dead Souls. In fact, Dead Souls SOUNDS LIKE A JOY DIVISION SONG. It doesn't sound like a NIN song, or a Josh Wink song either. Black Bomb sounds like NIN and doesn't sound like Wink. Your comedy stylings need work dude.

Bokononist
08-21-2013, 03:05 PM
Asshole, did I really say that Everything sounds like it was written by Josh Wink? Or was your intentional mis-statement of my position the petulant act of , yes, a butthurt individual who views himself as an authority but got shown up?

Come on man, that was a reference to you derailing the other thread for the first time. Humor not based in repetitive profanity is a nice thing to have around here, as is a little humility 'cause it's the fucking internet. Did anyone hear the record Trent wrote for Prince? I'm sure it's all over youtube.

Tiz
08-21-2013, 03:07 PM
Black Bomb sounds like NIN

No. It REALLY doesn't.

tony.parente
08-21-2013, 03:12 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzlnsloBRN1qzlvmi.gif

Promethean
08-21-2013, 03:16 PM
Sunspots is the third best song on WT. Black Bomb by Josh Wink sounds like NIN and even has a melody from AntiChrist Superstar at the end.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 03:21 PM
Here, have a track with Trent on that he did very, very little on, but still sounds good due to his MINOR tweaks.

I feel the same way about Black Bomb, Trent wrote it and the minor tweaks Josh Wink did made it better.

Jinsai
08-21-2013, 03:23 PM
the most frustrating thing here is that this "expert on all things music" has not only just heard the term "acid house" for the first time in his life, he seemingly hasn't bothered listening to anything else off the Herehear album.

The first fucking song on the album, "Back in tha Day" sounds nothing "like his usual acid house" style. There's more to "acid house" than using a 303 for the bassline, but since you probably have no idea what that is, just take my word for it. Also, check out the last song on the album, "Simple Man."

eversonpoe
08-21-2013, 03:25 PM
Sunspots is the third best song on WT. Black Bomb by Josh Wink sounds like NIN and even has a melody from AntiChrist Superstar at the end.

dude, seriously. you have a WHOLE THREAD about black bomb going on. you don't need to bring it back over here.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 03:26 PM
the most frustrating thing here is that this "expert on all things music" has not only just heard the term "acid house" for the first time in his life, he seemingly hasn't bothered listening to anything else off the Herehear album.

Listened to all of it.....not a fucking thing sounds like NIN except Black Bomb.

tony.parente
08-21-2013, 03:27 PM
I feel the same way about Black Bomb, Trent wrote it and the minor tweaks Josh Wink did made it better.



100% serious, could you post a link to an article or interview or other legit source other than a wiki page backing up your claim that Trent was the key songwriter on Black Bomb? Why are you so sure? You have to have some reliable proof hidden up your sleeve to be so outgoing as to call the head admin of this site an asshole 1,000,000 times over.

EDIT: This guy makes me miss @paperthin

sheepdean
08-21-2013, 03:28 PM
I feel the same way about Black Bomb, Trent wrote it and the minor tweaks Josh Wink did made it better.
And ... you're wrong. That album comes, on a bonus disc, with the demo of the song before Trent was on it. Not much changed, just got a bit more wispy. Guess what, other artists can be good too! Shockingly!

Tiz
08-21-2013, 03:29 PM
Listened to all of it.....not a fucking thing sounds like NIN except Black Bomb.

Bleep-bloop-bleep-bloop NINE INCH NAILS GUYS

Promethean
08-21-2013, 03:31 PM
Funny how supposedly Black Bomb doesn't sound like NIN AT ALL, but it sure does seem to confuse people as to who's song it is:

http://www.metrolyrics.com/black-bomb-jerry-in-the-bag-lyrics-nine-inch-nails.html

http://www.songlyrics.com/nine-inch-nails/black-bomb-jerry-in-the-bag-lyrics/

http://www.lyricsty.com/nine-inch-nails-black-bomb-jerry-in-the-bag-lyrics.html

http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Black-Bomb-w-Josh-Wink-lyrics-Nine-Inch-Nails/7B664F93922D58E048256F9400239B0D

Jinsai
08-21-2013, 03:32 PM
Listened to all of it.....not a fucking thing sounds like NIN except Black Bomb.

And maybe THAT song sounds sorta "nin-ish" because it was made with Trent Reznor in mind, who did "additional stuff" on it. This isn't a very difficult concept.

I've just provided you with two examples from that same album that sound different from Wink's "usual acid house," which is what you were asking for before you suddenly changed the question. "Young Again" (also from the Herehear album) also isn't in line with what typifies the acid house genre.

It is, however, different from anything else he's done. Should we jump to wild conclusions that therefore someone else had to have written it?

OSLIN
08-21-2013, 03:32 PM
Listened to all of it.....not a fucking thing sounds like NIN except Black Bomb.

You guys he doesn't know that Josh Wink is just a pseudonym used by Trent Reznor, what an idiot!

I found proof in the album credits for PHM:

Trent Reznor is Nine Inch Nails is Josh Wink

sheepdean
08-21-2013, 03:33 PM
Um, you also can look up "Hurt - Johnny Cash" and "Metal - Nine Inch Nails"

Jinsai
08-21-2013, 03:34 PM
Um, you also can look up "Hurt - Johnny Cash" and "Metal - Nine Inch Nails"

Actually, according to Metrolyrics, Johnny Cash's song "Hurt" was originally written by Tom Petty (http://www.metrolyrics.com/hurt-lyrics-johnny-cash.html)

OSLIN
08-21-2013, 03:35 PM
Actually, according to Metrolyrics, Johnny Cash's song "Hurt" was originally written by Tom Petty (http://www.metrolyrics.com/hurt-lyrics-johnny-cash.html)

The plot fucking thickens...

Promethean
08-21-2013, 03:36 PM
100% serious, could you post a link to an article or interview or other legit source other than a wiki page backing up your claim that Trent was the key songwriter on Black Bomb? Why are you so sure? You have to have some reliable proof hidden up your sleeve to be so outgoing as to call the head admin of this site an asshole 1,000,000 times over.

EDIT: This guy makes me miss @paperthin

He's an asshole for reasons that have nothing to do with this thread, as I'm sure many here will attest. Can you post anything that backs up your claim that he didnt' write it? The song itself says Trent did vocals and 'additional stuff'. My guess is additional stuff includes actually writing the thing.

OSLIN
08-21-2013, 03:38 PM
He's an asshole for reasons that have nothing to do with this thread, as I'm sure many here will attest. Can you post anything that backs up your claim that he didnt' write it? The song itself says Trent did vocals and 'additional stuff'. My guess is additional stuff includes actually writing the thing.

Additional stuff could be a hand job in the back of a Denny's parking lot.

tony.parente
08-21-2013, 03:39 PM
He's an asshole for reasons that have nothing to do with this thread, as I'm sure many here will attest. Can you post anything that backs up your claim that he didnt' write it? The song itself says Trent did vocals and 'additional stuff'. My guess is additional stuff includes actually writing the thing.


Lets keep the namecalling out of this, you don't like the guy and you're allowed to have that opinion.
But just so we're clear, you're 100% sure of trent writing most of the music on a hunch?
I mean again that's ok for you to feel that way and there's nothing wrong with it, but as long as it's out on the table that you think he wrote it because you think it sounds like something trent would write I guess that's all there is to it.

EndlessLoveless
08-21-2013, 03:40 PM
Man this thread is way better than the bitching about everything thread. Even if that prometeus is a total douche. Hilarious!

r_z
08-21-2013, 03:40 PM
Pretty sure Promethean was send to us as a wrath of the godz for all our leak-begging.

frankie teardrop
08-21-2013, 03:45 PM
i just can't believe you don't understand that it's not possible that wink decided to write a song and hoped trent reznor would guest on it. with that in mind, it's possible wink created music that deliberately lived in that world or was suited towards it DESPITE the fact that he hadn't experimented with that sound before. you don't know what the original track sounded like, or how the collaboration came to be, or what assistance was lended by reznor(well now we know more, thanks to @untoldlb (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=827).), so don't come off like an expert on the situation and get aggressive with the ONE person that might have an idea.

regardless of how it all went down, just because wink has stuck to his guns and made a certain type of sound for the majority of his career doesn't mean he's incapable of working in another medium. people don't just fit so neatly into the little boxes you want them to, especially when it comes to art. it's fucking insulting and ignorant to assume that because someone operates in genre doesn't mean they can't step outside of it if they wish to.

long story short, you weren't there, you aren't either party or affiliated with anyone who had a hand in this song, so please stop making broad, sweeping, ignorant generalizations that imply that you know anything about this song outside of having a vivid imagination and a pair of ears. speculate all you like, but you're just going to have to take the official word about the subject until someone with the authority to do so can support your claims. otherwise, your continued rantings about this subject are frustrating for everyone.

untoldlb
08-21-2013, 03:46 PM
PROMOTHEAN:

http://dancemusic.about.com/cs/interviews/a/IntJoshWinkDave_3.htm


DMA: Speaking of "Black Bomb" how did the cameo appearance from Trent Reznor come about?
WINK: Originally, it was a track that I was playing out on DAT in the middle of my set to throw a wrench into things like I like to do. People were always running up to me wondering what the track was seeing that it was slow but it had good dynamics in it. I figured that I wanted to take the song to the next level and that because it was kinda electro-ish hip hoppy, that I would get Kool Keith from the Ultramagnetic MC's on it. We all worked it out and I was going to fly out to San Francisco and do this and in the midst of getting all this information about when I was going to go out, nobody knew where he was. His management didn't know where he was, nobody knew where he was. I didn't have time to screw around so someone suggested a couple of other singers and Trent's name came up. So I sent it to him and our A+R person at Columbia Jason Jordan knew a friend of Trent's, so he got in touch with his friend and found out Trent was interested in doing it and I sent him the ADAT and he did it. I never went down there and he didn't come up here. His crew took care of things down there and we sent tape between each other and he did his thing and I did my thing from there.

OSLIN
08-21-2013, 03:47 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trent_Reznor_discography

You can scroll down and look under vocal contributions.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 03:47 PM
And maybe THAT song sounds sorta "nin-ish" because it was made with Trent Reznor in mind, who did "additional stuff" on it. This isn't a very difficult concept.

I've just provided you with two examples from that same album that sound different from Wink's "usual acid house," which is what you were asking for before you suddenly changed the question. "Young Again" (also from the Herehear album) also isn't in line with what typifies the acid house genre.

It is, however, different from anything else he's done. Should we jump to wild conclusions that therefore someone else had to have written it?

Your reading comprehension has failed you yet again. I asked for examples of NIN like songs from Wink. No example has yet to be proffered. Try again.

tony.parente
08-21-2013, 03:48 PM
PROMOTHEAN:

http://dancemusic.about.com/cs/interviews/a/IntJoshWinkDave_3.htm

Wink is lying to cover it up. Prom is still right.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 03:48 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trent_Reznor_discography

You can scroll down and look under vocal contributions.

Vocals not in question, primary song writing is in question.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 03:50 PM
Someone ban @Leviathant (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1) for not accepting that Trent wrote Dead Souls and Ian Curtis had a time machine

So sez the confused darling who wrote the NIN wiki entry for Black Bomb which backs up my assertion but claims she didn't write it, or can't remember, or did you forget to take your meds, or......

eversonpoe
08-21-2013, 03:50 PM
i made both of these songs. i did everything in both of them (except the backing screams in "devils").

you tell me how they sound anything alike. please.

1 "devils" (http://eversonpoe.bandcamp.com/track/devils)

2 "the ghost of prom night" (http://eversonpoe.bandcamp.com/track/the-ghost-of-prom-night)

OSLIN
08-21-2013, 03:50 PM
Vocals not in question, primary song writing is in question.

That song would be under production credits or instrumental contributions on the same link if were in fact true.

sheepdean
08-21-2013, 03:51 PM
And with that, untoldlb wins

untoldlb
08-21-2013, 03:52 PM
Vocals not in question, primary song writing is in question.

then you're not able to read, or maybe not able to understand what you read.


WINK: Originally, it was a track that I was playing out on DAT in the middle of my set to throw a wrench into things like I like to do. People were always running up to me wondering what the track was seeing that it was slow but it had good dynamics in it. figured that I wanted to take the song to the next level and that because it was kinda electro-ish hip hoppy, that I would get Kool Keith from the Ultramagnetic MC's on it.

sheepdean
08-21-2013, 03:53 PM
Because Promethean considers my ninwiki entries to be the only proof needed, I also did this http://www.ninwiki.com/Black_Bomb_(Jerry_In_The_Bag)#Trent.27s_involvemen t

Promethean
08-21-2013, 03:53 PM
'His crew took care of things down there and we sent tape between each other and he did his thing and I did my thing from there. '

Which proves my point that TR did more than just sing vocals.
http://dancemusic.about.com/cs/interviews/a/IntJoshWinkDave_3.htm

Jinsai
08-21-2013, 03:54 PM
Your reading comprehension has failed you yet again. I asked for examples of NIN like songs from Wink. No example has yet to be proffered. Try again.


No one has provided a link to music by Wink that sounds anything other than ambient house.


The fact that no one here can find anything other than house music from Josh Wink?

...and, just in case you missed it, go back up and read the post from @untoldlb (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=827)

edit:
Which proves my point that TR did more than just sing vocals.
no, it doesn't prove that he "wrote it" at all. In fact, it proves pretty much THE OPPOSITE of that.

sheepdean
08-21-2013, 03:55 PM
So sez the confused darling who wrote the NIN wiki entry for Black Bomb which backs up my assertion but claims she didn't write it, or can't remember, or did you forget to take your meds, or......
Dude, check the article now. I have fixed it. I never claimed I didn't write it, but I've done over 4500 edits on the wiki so i can't remember everything...

Promethean
08-21-2013, 03:59 PM
Yes but the author of that link says what she wrote is wrong.....or something.

goingincirclez
08-21-2013, 04:00 PM
COMPREHENSION CAPS ON EVERYBODY!!!!


Josh Wink didn't have much time to chat. The Philadelphia-based DJ and electronic dance artist (whose fans include U2 and David Bowie) was on a set in New York taping the video for "Simple Man," the new single from his album Herehear (Ovum/Ruffhouse/Columbia), both of which are due June 16.

"I was very happy doing instrumentals," Wink said of his previous work. "But with [Herehear], I wanted to get to the next level."

To get to that level, Wink began writing songs with vocals. And to bring it off, he recruited the likes of Nine Inch Nails singer Trent Reznor, This Mortal Coil's Caroline Crawley and Philly poet Ursula Rucker.

The result is an album that, in fact, works on many levels. Herehear jumps from one extreme to the next, from the rap-like "Sixth Sense" to the pulsing dance-rock of "Simple Man." Reznor is in the middle of it all, providing menacing, Ozzy Osbourne-like vocals to the industrial pounder "Black Bomb (Jerry In The Bag)."

Yet all of these musical twists and moods flow seamlessly into each other. Wink's nip-and-tuck production has created a sonic seesaw that somehow stays balanced.

"I wanted to write songs," Wink said. "[I hadn't written for] vocals before; I just wrote synth lines. But this did work. [The lyricists] interpreted what I produced. They played the tracks over their lyrics."

Info from here: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/250364/josh-wink-gets-vocal-about-herehear.jhtml

Promethean
08-21-2013, 04:00 PM
...and, just in case you missed it, go back up and read the post from @untoldlb (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=827)

edit:
no, it doesn't prove that he "wrote it" at all. In fact, it proves pretty much THE OPPOSITE of that.

Wrong again Einstein. Reznor did more than vocals, it's filed under 'additional things'.

gorast
08-21-2013, 04:04 PM
Yes but the author of that link says what she wrote is wrong.....or something.

Christ, you are a fucking moron.

gorast
08-21-2013, 04:05 PM
So sez the confused darling who wrote the NIN wiki entry for Black Bomb which backs up my assertion but claims she didn't write it, or can't remember, or did you forget to take your meds, or......

Stop bringing your fucking garbage into this topic. You literally have an entire topic dedicated to your mindless blathering.

KarenLeslie
08-21-2013, 04:05 PM
Wrong again Einstein. Reznor did more than vocals, it's filed under 'additional things'.

It proves the song existed before Trent ever got a hold of it, THEREFORE, Trent couldn't have written it. Sang on it yes, maybe threw in some tambourine goodness for all we know, but he DID NOT WRITE IT. That's what I believe Jinsai was pointing out.

Jinsai
08-21-2013, 04:06 PM
Wrong again Einstein. Reznor did more than vocals, it's filed under 'additional things'.

You're claiming he wrote it. The primary songwriter is never credited with "additional things" in the liner notes, especially when someone else's name is listed right next to it as "written by."

Give it up. You lost this argument to empirical evidence... in a manner so spectacularly conclusive it's kind of astonishing that you're still talking.

tony.parente
08-21-2013, 04:06 PM
I love this board so much.

eversonpoe
08-21-2013, 04:07 PM
i made both of these songs. i did everything in both of them (except the backing screams in "devils").

you tell me how they sound anything alike. please.

1 "devils" (http://eversonpoe.bandcamp.com/track/devils)

2 "the ghost of prom night" (http://eversonpoe.bandcamp.com/track/the-ghost-of-prom-night)

just gonna ignore this, eh, promethean? because it backs up everyone else's assertion that an artist can work in more than one genre?

zecho
08-21-2013, 04:07 PM
This is the most amazing thread ever. Like, in the history of this website. It's like that time some guy told Kevin Rose that he must be new to Digg, cause he didn't know how it worked. I'm kind of in awe of it.

frankie teardrop
08-21-2013, 04:09 PM
'additional things' could boil down to making suggestions, minor tweaks, adding distortion to the drums, and so on and so forth. none of which amount to the giant leaps and bounds you've made to assume reznor wrote the track completely. you're being given concrete PROOF that this a wink creation, recorded with the similar bomb squad-esque production as a means for wink to step outside of his boundaries, as the rest of the record explores other genres outside of his usual style.

really, all you have is some far-fetched speculation that goes against rigid fact, and yet you still rage on about this as if your theory is gospel. for someone who keeps calling people assholes who haven't taken their medication, you sure project a lot.

EndlessLoveless
08-21-2013, 04:09 PM
This is the most amazing thread ever. Like, in the history of this website. It's like that time some guy told Kevin Rose that he must be new to Digg, cause he didn't know how it worked. I'm kind of in awe of it.

Its the pinacle of the entire internet. Cant keep away....

OSLIN
08-21-2013, 04:11 PM
Just give up guys, it's like explaining quantum physics to a fucking earthworm. He's just trolling because he's bored on a Wednesday. Don't worry he'll log off soon to go walk his cat, then home for a bowl of Fruity Pebbles for dinner, then nod off while masturbating to a rerun of Designing Women.

EDIT: Now that I read this post, that sounds like an alright Wednesday.

Leviathant
08-21-2013, 04:12 PM
You guys can't prove the track he was playing during his live sets wasn't just some DJ noodling. He sent the tape to Trent, who then crammed all the music in the middle.

frothy_ham
08-21-2013, 04:12 PM
Promethean has done an amazing thing for us you guys, we should be thanking him/her. He's distracted us from bickering about the new material, he/she's taken our attention away from F5'ing over and over to see if HM has leaked, she/he's united us all under a common banner of "WTF is up with this guy/gal?". She/he's not the villain we deserve right now, but the villain we need (or something).

eversonpoe
08-21-2013, 04:13 PM
Don't worry he'll log off soon to go walk his cat...

i wish i could walk my cats. promethean is a lucky guy.

frankie teardrop
08-21-2013, 04:14 PM
not that it matters in the grand scheme of things, but judging from similar comments on the youtube videos for the song, i believe promethean is a girl.

tony.parente
08-21-2013, 04:15 PM
Promethean has done an amazing thing for us you guys, we should be thanking him. He's distracted us from bickering about the new material, he's taken our attention away from F5'ing over and over to see if HM has leaked, he's united us all under a common banner of "WTF is up with this guy?". He's not the villain we deserve right now, but the villain we need (or something).


He's like a 48 year old batman.
Only with a helmet instead of a mask.

EndlessLoveless
08-21-2013, 04:17 PM
not that it matters in the grand scheme of things, but judging from similar comments on the youtube videos for the song, i believe promethean is a girl.

I wonder if she's hot.

gorast
08-21-2013, 04:17 PM
Promethean has done an amazing thing for us you guys, we should be thanking him. He's distracted us from bickering about the new material, he's taken our attention away from F5'ing over and over to see if HM has leaked, he's united us all under a common banner of "WTF is up with this guy?". He's not the villain we deserve right now, but the villain we need (or something).

Oh I definitely think we deserve him for yelling every five minutes LEAK FUCKER

OSLIN
08-21-2013, 04:21 PM
not that it matters in the grand scheme of things, but judging from similar comments on the youtube videos for the song, i believe promethean is a girl.

It does make my last comment a whole lot sexier.

PeedroPaula
08-21-2013, 04:22 PM
Please provide link to anything Josh Wink has recorded that doesn't sound like house and sounds like NIN. He's not capable of writing anything like that. Thanx in advance.

Wow. You've really got that copy and paste function down pat!

sheepdean
08-21-2013, 04:22 PM
not that it matters in the grand scheme of things, but judging from similar comments on the youtube videos for the song, i believe promethean is a girl.
on the internet, nobody knows you're a cat

kel
08-21-2013, 04:23 PM
we get a new mikeyliz, carol_reznor, what-have-you every time a new record releases. good times!

tony.parente
08-21-2013, 04:24 PM
It does make my last comment a whole lot sexier.


For whatever reason, probably because TR and I were born 24hrs apart, new NIN has always hit me emotionally in the right place at the right time. "Find My Way" is hitting me particularly hard as it perfectly fits where I am in life, moving and starting life over......again. Too old to start over but here I go, and this song is making me want to cry.

"she" is also 48 years old and from the sounds of it, most likely divorced.

SHOCKING.

EndlessLoveless
08-21-2013, 04:24 PM
I wonder if she's hot.

sheepdean facepalm-
I was only joking...kinda...

frankie teardrop
08-21-2013, 04:25 PM
well, i didn't mean to invite a different breed of comment, i just thought you all might want to know since there's similar stuff happening on youtube.

Wretchedest
08-21-2013, 04:25 PM
Oh Man!

This is exciting. ETS is kind of back now! With lively discussions, heated arguments, new guys bashing the moderators. People actually posting in the NIN forum!

It had been warming up to this for a while, but "Everything" has brought back full force. Good times.

Leviathant
08-21-2013, 04:27 PM
Wrong again Einstein. Reznor did more than vocals, it's filed under 'additional things'.

Just keep posting. Everyone else, just keep facepalming.

howdidislipinto
08-21-2013, 04:27 PM
Considering Black Bomb came out 10 years before the album that sounds like Black Bomb, I feel like Promethean and ALL OF US (he's got brain damage, what's our excuse?) missed the obvious conclusion: Josh Wink wrote Year Zero.

sheepdean
08-21-2013, 04:27 PM
Hey, prometeus is ridiculous and insane, but let's not be sexist or anything.

ultimatebdp
08-21-2013, 04:29 PM
I can't believe there's around 200 posts on a thread about an old song that rrrrrrrreally sucks. Jesus. In the history of this song, there have been more discussions about it TODAY than ever before. Even Josh Wink's mom wouldn't give this much of a shit. And it doesn't even sound like "Everything" to begin with.

COLUMBIA, RELEASE THE ALBUM EARLY AND SPARE US FROM THESE INSANE THREADS!!!

tony.parente
08-21-2013, 04:31 PM
Hey, prometeus is ridiculous and insane, but let's not be sexist or anything.

Ok fine..
HE is likely divorced.

OSLIN
08-21-2013, 04:32 PM
I can't believe there's around 200 posts on a thread about an old song that rrrrrrrreally sucks. Jesus. In the history of this song, there have been more discussions about it TODAY than ever before. Even Josh Wink's mom wouldn't give this much of a shit. And it doesn't even sound like "Everything" to begin with.

COLUMBIA, RELEASE THE ALBUM EARLY AND SPARE US FROM THESE INSANE THREADS!!!

I wonder if it's trending on twitter dude.

KarenLeslie
08-21-2013, 04:32 PM
Even Josh Wink's mom wouldn't give this much of a shit.

Ah, but can you PROVE that I'm not actually Josh Wink's mom? PROOF PLZ.

sheepdean
08-21-2013, 04:32 PM
Josh Wink wrote Year Zero.I may have stolen this to be my user title

OSLIN
08-21-2013, 04:32 PM
Hey, prometeus is ridiculous and insane, but let's not be sexist or anything.

Sorry sweet heart! ;)

Promethean
08-21-2013, 04:32 PM
No. It REALLY doesn't.

Yes, it does.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 04:35 PM
Oh no, I'm a dude. I know cuz I spend my time cracking hoes in the mouth when they step out of line. Divorced? Never stupid enough to marry a bitch. Just fuck em and use they money.

marodi
08-21-2013, 04:35 PM
...I think I know a little about music, and I think I like NIN.

Josh Wink. Classically trained musician. Can play many instruments including clarinet (which is a sign he's not just pressing buttons).

I played the clarinet for close to 10 years so I think it's time to come clean: I'm the mysterious Alex Wink. I'm a fraternal twin to Josh but we're born from different mothers (don't ask, it's complicated). I wrote Black Bomb with Trent under circumstances I can't clearly recall because my brain is fried from an overlong usage of caffeine, courtesy of a mostly reviled coffee place that I will not name in this thread.

I apologized for all the brouhaha this has caused.

*hugs monitor*

I love you, ETS.

Promethean
08-21-2013, 04:35 PM
Sorry sweet heart! ;)

Pussy whipped bitch.

mfte
08-21-2013, 04:36 PM
I can't tell if this thread is a joke or not.

I used to have the Sep 98 issue of Future Music Magazine where Josh Wink was interviewed. I am paraphrasing here since it's been a long time... When asked about Black Bomb he said that it was something he had lying around and used to drop in the middle of his DJ sets. Since the 80something BPM track was significantly different, kids used to run up on him after and ask what the hell that was. He then decided to give it a proper release. He sent it over to Trent who laid down the vocals and added his own production to them.

http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-90-776855-1220079514.jpeg

frankie teardrop
08-21-2013, 04:37 PM
oh, nevermind. any guilt i had about opening this dark path just went right out the window.

sheepdean
08-21-2013, 04:38 PM
Oh no, I'm a dude. I know cuz I spend my time cracking hoes in the mouth when they step out of line. Divorced? Never stupid enough to marry a bitch. Just fuck em and use they money.


Pussy whipped bitch.
Well that's a relief, I was worried there might be something good about you that could make me regret it when you get banned

tw3rbz
08-21-2013, 04:38 PM
This thread is awesome.

eversonpoe
08-21-2013, 04:39 PM
Oh no, I'm a dude. I know cuz I spend my time cracking hoes in the mouth when they step out of line. Divorced? Never stupid enough to marry a bitch. Just fuck em and use they money.

wow, you just went from slightly amusing troll to COMPLETE and UTTER ASSHOLE.

you're quite the misogynist, aren't you?

OSLIN
08-21-2013, 04:40 PM
Pussy whipped bitch.

Valid point, but could you find me a "link" to prove it?

tony.parente
08-21-2013, 04:41 PM
Pussy whipped bitch.

Haha now that he's been proven wrong, has become a joke in this community and know's it he is now trolling has hard as he can until he/she/whatever gets banned.

Can we archive this thread forever?

gorast
08-21-2013, 04:42 PM
Well that's a relief, I was worried there might be something good about you that could make me regret it when you get banned

I don't think I'm the only one that's hoping the banhammer doesn't drop too soon, because this topic is absolute gold.

So long as all this shit stays in this topic. Don't need the guy pissing everywhere else on ETS.

KarenLeslie
08-21-2013, 04:43 PM
I played the clarinet for close to 10 years so I think it's time to come clean: I'm the mysterious Alex Wink. I'm a fraternal twin to Josh but we're born from different mothers (don't ask, it's complicated). I wrote Black Bomb with Trent under circumstances I can't clearly recall because my brain is fried from an overlong usage of caffeine, courtesy of a mostly reviled coffee place that I will not name in this thread.

I've heard that saying a doppelganger's name backwards banishes them to the shadow realm from whence they came. Someone, please figure out how to pronounce "Kniwxela" out loud before he starts DJ-noodling the acid house remix of In This Twilight that ends the world.

frankie teardrop
08-21-2013, 04:43 PM
So long as all this shit stays in this topic. Don't need the guy pissing everywhere else on ETS.

http://tomasinoblog.com/images/stay-on-target.gif

EndlessLoveless
08-21-2013, 04:47 PM
Oh no, I'm a dude. I know cuz I spend my time cracking hoes in the mouth when they step out of line. Divorced? Never stupid enough to marry a bitch. Just fuck em and use they money.

Holy shit!! Just when i think its dying down... im proven wrong. This is really fucking up my work day looking at this every 5 mins.

imail724
08-21-2013, 04:50 PM
on the internet, nobody knows you're a cat
Nobody ever suspects the butterfly
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqu74bLlJf1qzzvp9.jpg

PeedroPaula
08-21-2013, 04:58 PM
Prometheus: Can you post anything that backs up your claim that he didnt' write it?


Uhhh...no. Because you cannot prove a negative you freakin' moron

tony.parente
08-21-2013, 05:04 PM
Oh Man!

This is exciting. ETS is kind of back now! With lively discussions, heated arguments, new guys bashing the moderators. People actually posting in the NIN forum!

It had been warming up to this for a while, but "Everything" has brought back full force. Good times.

You're actually the same person, only not as overly obnoxious and you're outspoken about something else.

r_z
08-21-2013, 05:07 PM
Pussy whipped bitch.

I wish I knew how to make this my new user title

tony.parente
08-21-2013, 05:10 PM
I wish I knew how to make this my new user title

>edit profile
>custom user title.

That is if you subscribed, which it looks like you did.

Wretchedest
08-21-2013, 05:10 PM
You're actually the same person, only not as overly obnoxious and you're outspoken about something else.

What are you trying to say here? I'm the same person as who? I wasnt even talking about a specific person.

eversonpoe
08-21-2013, 05:12 PM
I wish I knew how to make this my new user title

i literally just (finally) donated to ETS so i could change mine. hope you all like it. ;)

tony.parente
08-21-2013, 05:12 PM
What are you trying to say here? I'm the same person as who? I wasnt even talking about a specific person.
I was comparing you to Prometheus.

You are the Prometheus of the track Everything.

r_z
08-21-2013, 05:18 PM
>edit profile
>custom user title.

That is if you subscribed, which it looks like you did.

Damn. Now I really had to do it.

Wretchedest
08-21-2013, 05:19 PM
I was comparing you to Prometheus.

You are the Prometheus of the track Everything.

Yes, because my reasoned, dissenting opinion was akin to the over the top flaming and trolling found in this thread.

Honestly i cant believe i even justified that with a response.

Sesquipedalism
08-21-2013, 05:22 PM
Columbia's anti-leak strategy for Hesitation Marks is now plain: Like throwing a salmon-rubbed ball of twine into a room full of kittens, they dispatched their intern, Promethean, to distract the fanbase from any attempt at early acquisition and/or distribution. I was here for an hour this morning before I recalled that this was a Nine Inch Nails forum. It was another two hours before I remembered what it was which I'd been here impatiently awaiting.

OSLIN
08-21-2013, 05:22 PM
I really dig the break down in Black Bomb, sounds like Trent Reznor wrote it himself.

sheepdean
08-21-2013, 05:28 PM
This was a plant by ets to get more people to donate for facepalm buttons

nineismine
08-21-2013, 05:42 PM
yes, because my reasoned, dissenting opinion was akin to the over the top flaming and trolling found in this thread.

Honestly i cant believe i even justified that with a response.
any form of dissent will be viewed as an act of war

nineismine
08-21-2013, 05:43 PM
I really dig the break down in Black Bomb, sounds like Trent Reznor wrote it himself.
I don't think he wrote it but I think he sang on it.

EndlessLoveless
08-21-2013, 05:50 PM
I don't think he wrote it but I think he sang on it.

Fuck that, HE WROTE THE ENTIRE SONG. Show me a link.. show me some links!

No links?? That means IM RIGHT!

Leo_OAK
08-21-2013, 05:51 PM
@Leviathant (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1) - it DOES say "additional stuff" in the liner notes, but @Promethean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1028) that DOESN'T refer to music. ( http://www.discogs.com/Wink-Herehear/release/794933 )

Everyone cool?

Dude, your "Josh Wink wrote Year Zero" status gave me the best laugh I've had this week. Brilliant, thanks for that

eversonpoe
08-21-2013, 05:55 PM
guys, c'mon. my self-assigned sub-title on the board is unequivocal proof:

I WROTE BLACK BOMB.

because i'm josh wink. ;)

anyone have a link to prove me wrong?

marodi
08-21-2013, 05:57 PM
I've heard that saying a doppelganger's name backwards banishes them to the shadow realm from whence they came. Someone, please figure out how to pronounce "Kniwxela" out loud before he starts DJ-noodling the acid house remix of In This Twilight that ends the world.

TOO LATE MWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

As a proof, I offer no link at all which means that I'm RIGHT. Or doesn't it mean that I'm wrong?

Stop confusing me. :(

jessamineny
08-21-2013, 06:00 PM
All I can think is that Leviathant has remarkable restraint. Dayum.

EndlessLoveless
08-21-2013, 06:01 PM
Still no links???? Wheres the links??? You guys suck and should listen to paul oakenfold.

Give me a link??? Thanks in advance.

Wretchedest
08-21-2013, 06:05 PM
All I can think is that Leviathant has remarkable restraint. Dayum.

He's had practice.

thefragile_jake
08-21-2013, 06:05 PM
http://www.laughroulette.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/MEMES-dog-with-osama-beard-wat.jpg

What happened to this thread??

jessamineny
08-21-2013, 06:10 PM
He's had practice.

I invoke my right against self-incrimination.

Leo_OAK
08-21-2013, 06:11 PM
this topic was the best thing that could happen today.

1- To the Promethean Guy: dude, you started this thread by dissing the food right in Red's face. If this was prision, we would starve your sorry ass*

2- To Everyone : I love everybody, this was a pleasure to read. From now on, I'll add the expressions "thanks in advice" and "link, please" as much as I can.

*contains Orange is the New Black S01E02 reference

fillow
08-21-2013, 06:32 PM
so
much
sarcasim

eversonpoe
08-21-2013, 06:40 PM
this topic was the best thing that could happen today.

1- To the Promethean Guy: dude, you started this thread by dissing the food right in Red's face. If this was prision, we would starve your sorry ass*

2- To Everyone : I love everybody, this was a pleasure to read. From now on, I'll add the expressions "thanks in advice" and "link, please" as much as I can.

*contains Orange is the New Black S01E02 reference

i think you mean "thanx"

Vee_One
08-21-2013, 06:47 PM
http://i.imgur.com/XS5LK.gif

10 / 10
Well done

Leo_OAK
08-21-2013, 06:48 PM
i think you mean "thanx"

http://www.britishcouncil.org.za/files/2013/03/i-stand-site.jpg

marodi
08-21-2013, 06:50 PM
so
much
sarcasim

As long as ETS is online, the sarcasim will live on.

Khrz
08-21-2013, 06:52 PM
As long as ETS is online, the sarcasim will live on.

I believe you meant "sarcasm".




oh...

JessicaSarahS
08-21-2013, 07:01 PM
Jesus fucking Christ, this thread is simultaneously the best and worst thing I've ever seen on ETS.

Someone make a radio drama out of Leviathant v. Promethean.


Please provide links to prove that this is the best and worst thread. Thanx.

;) This thread was very entertaining. Thank...er, thanx to everyone involved for helping me pass the time at work.

somethingelse
08-21-2013, 07:07 PM
Aww sad. End of thread. So worth the price of admission.

jezstyle
08-21-2013, 07:09 PM
Wow. What a morning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efHCdKb5UWc

sparecactus
08-21-2013, 07:13 PM
It was fun while it lasted.. Alright! Back to wearing down your F5 key everybody!