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billpulsipher
08-13-2013, 09:31 PM
the greatest concert in NIN history took place.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOaksbDV81A

thevoid99
08-13-2013, 10:16 PM
Where Woodstock '69 made the Who superstars despite the fact that they thought it was one of their worst shows. Woodstock '94 made Trent Reznor into a superstar himself.

Krazy
08-13-2013, 10:19 PM
Big pimpin'....

"Nine Inch Nails were considered to have the largest crowd density at the event, overshadowing many of the more mainstream bands of the time."

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodstock_'94

Kyle
08-13-2013, 10:44 PM
Most important I'll grant you. Greatest is definitely pushing it.

RGM81
08-13-2013, 11:11 PM
It was definitely a breakthrough performance, but it's tough to overlook those EPIC sets played during the Wave Goodbye tour.

AlanMorlock
08-13-2013, 11:11 PM
Full set.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mWWsJnUbIc

Cat Mom
08-14-2013, 12:56 AM
This mostly reminds me that my ex husband had a really good cable pirate box so I watched all of Woodstock for free. Sorry, but my primary memory is still Dave Navarro in a light bulb costume.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aoUqSPQQuW4&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DaoUqSPQQuW4


Oh, and Perry's Porno for Pyros doing "Pets" so awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEn8EyM_A-U


It was definitely a breakthrough performance, but it's tough to overlook those EPIC sets played during the Wave Goodbye tour.
The WITH TEETH tour is still most epic for me.

FULLMETAL
08-14-2013, 01:02 AM
Ugh, I wish whoever owns the Polygram library would pull out that NHK prototype HD recording and release it. I have a clip from that feed somewhere in my work archive and it looks so much better than the PPV feed.

Fred
08-14-2013, 02:10 AM
I still think this is a great performance to watch. Sure, it's a bit sloppy (in a charming "we're so angry we can't play our instruments properly"-way) and the PPV sound mix honestly isn't very good. But the energy and "danger" put on display here are still absolutely unmatched. No wonder it was their major breakthrough performance.

Coincidentally, I stumbled upon a DVD-R of this gig a few days ago. I was looking for Closure, and I didn't realise I still had this lying around. Might give it a spin later in honour of the anniversary!

Max Leo
08-14-2013, 02:39 AM
But where is the tambourine? And where are the "heys" and the clap alongs? Is this really NIN??? :p



PS: Put your headphones:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wBaQMCE9aQ

That sounds so much better than other youtube videos for this show...

The rest of the serlist:

http://www.youtube.com/user/headlikeabowl?feature=watch

Prettybrokenspiral
08-14-2013, 02:46 AM
This mostly reminds me that my ex husband had a really good cable pirate box so I watched all of Woodstock for free. Sorry, but my primary memory is still Dave Navarro in a light bulb costume.


Wasn't that his very first live performance as a Chili Pepper?

What an embarrassing way to make your debut...

Prettybrokenspiral
08-14-2013, 02:53 AM
I remember back in early-2003, I think…before there was serious talk about ‘Closure’ seeing a late-2004 DVD release…wandering around this shithole record store in Brooklyn, and there were all these bootleg DVDs of band performances and what not. I remember flipping through the ‘M’ section and sitting there was a lone bootleg copy of ‘Closure’ in a slim-line DVD case. The artwork was just one of those shitty print-off paper sleeves of the VHS art, but there was a description on the back telling you what ‘Closure’ contained and that it included “unreleased footage”.

Needless to say, I nearly shit myself on the spot. This was ‘Closure’ on DVD in 2003. Not supposed to be possible.

In addition to a VHS-transfer of the entire ‘Closure’ footage/videos, the ‘unreleased footage’ turned out to be the PPV broadcast of the Woodstock concert. I’d never seen it in its entirety at that point, so it was well worth the $15 I paid for the whole thing.

I still have that bootleg, just for posterity’s sake, even though I long upgraded to the Trent-approved DVD leak with the actual ‘unreleased footage’. I know somebody on these forums has to own a copy of this bootleg, too…

m0reta
08-14-2013, 02:54 AM
The only thing I remember about Woodstock is the MTV coverage and thinking Trent had some serious chicken legs.

Now look at how our boy has grown! *sniffles with weird misplaced pride*

jezstyle
08-14-2013, 03:17 AM
PS: Put your headphones:

http://www.youtube.com/user/headlikeabowl?feature=watch

That sounds so much better than other youtube videos for this show...


Has anyone gotten in touch with headlikeabowl ever since their uploads as to where he sourced his particularly incredible quality audio?

spiralhate
08-14-2013, 03:23 AM
This site http://industrialskads.blogspot.co.uk/2009/04/nine-inch-nails-1994-live-at-woodstock.html seems to have a link for the torrent of this 'remastered edition' but I don't know if it's working.
Can someone check? I'd love to get my hands on this version

slave2thewage
08-14-2013, 06:59 AM
I remember buying a bootleg of this ON CASSETTE in Dublin about ten years ago. I thought it was the closest I'd ever get to seeing NIN live. Oh, how wrong I was *goes back to prepping for shows #18 and #19*.

dlb
08-14-2013, 07:04 AM
Where to download the definite audio of this? I doubt that the mud pigs bootleg is the best source available anymore. Thanks for a link etc.! :)

kevinbeetle
08-14-2013, 07:53 AM
i remember watching this on pay per view with my girlfriend at the time. right after i graduated college. she recorded it all on vhs, then we broke up in the fall. was pissed for years that i never got a copy made. then, 10 years or so later, i got a dvd copy. i still get douche chills when i see trent crawling out on stage.

hobochic
08-14-2013, 08:06 AM
Gotta love Danny Lohner's live intensity. He makes every guitar strum or keyboard hit feel like a good old punch in the balls.

Fred
08-14-2013, 09:15 AM
This site http://industrialskads.blogspot.co.uk/2009/04/nine-inch-nails-1994-live-at-woodstock.html seems to have a link for the torrent of this 'remastered edition' but I don't know if it's working.
Can someone check? I'd love to get my hands on this version

It seems to throw me into an infinite loop of captchas and ads, so no, not on my end.

Besides, judging from the YouTube videos, I'm not sure what to make of the remastered version. Video is the same as always, and the audio sounds as if the person responsible just throw it into iZoTope Ozone or similar mastering tool and jacked everything up so everything's louder than everything else. Sure, it sounds less hollow and more in-your-face than before, but only because the audio is compressed to smithereens. Sounds great on computer speakers. Probably sounds like hard lumps of shit hitting a brick wall on your stereo. So as a semi-audiophile, I'd personally hate it if this "remastered" and "superior" version was the only one circulating in 20 years...

Max Leo
08-14-2013, 10:42 AM
Maybe I'm asking too much or even the impossible, but couldn't the TOIOU people remaster this show somehow like that youtube guy did, but maybe even better?

Sadly, I have no idea about audio and video manipulation, but I guess that the people working on the TOIOU project know how to do these kind of things, they have done it not only with "The Gift" stuff but also with tons of videos from youtube or from fan recordings, so I guess they know how to do something similar to that remaster but maybe even better (I'm not an audiophile, for me that remaster sounds great just because it sounds louder, and I was used to the crappy vhs bootlegs sound and when I bought a dvd bootleg I thought that it sounded amazing in comparison, and that dvd sounds pretty bad compared to those "remastered" youtube videos).

I know that the TOIOU people are busy with other HTDA/NIN related stuff, but maybe a supercool remastered edition for the 20th anniversary would be pretty great. Because there is no chance for an Interscope/UMG official release for said anniversary, right?

Blackbookpress1984
08-14-2013, 11:47 AM
Trent has actually stated that the bands performance the day off Woodstock 94 was particularly sub par.

Fred
08-14-2013, 11:47 AM
@Max Leo (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1390): I reckon the possibilities for improvements are rather limited. A VHS tape from 1994 can only be made to look and sound so good. Did it even look substantially better to begin with? I'm not an expert either, but the old saying about polishing a turd definitely applies.

If a master tape was somehow unearthed, maybe. But god knows where that is. The rough state of the Woodstock footage on the official Closure Appendage indicates the band hasn't been able to utilise one. So I think we're stuck with the off-air-sources. Which is fortunately more than good enough, in my opinion.

billpulsipher
08-14-2013, 12:16 PM
Trent has actually stated that the bands performance the day off Woodstock 94 was particularly sub par.
I think he was referring to the fact the show was very sloppy etc....In recent interviews he has praised that performance saying it's one of the most memorable

SM Rollinger
08-14-2013, 12:25 PM
Hell yes, i just found a pressed bootleg of "When the whip comes down" the other day too. Glad you mentioned this, as this is my favorite NIN live show too.

And for those who dont know, it was this performance of Happiness In Slavery that was featured on the Woodstock 94 live compilation, that won TR a Best Metal Performance Grammy.

Max Leo
08-14-2013, 12:28 PM
Fred: Yeah, I understand that a remaster would hardly look like the BYIT blu-ray. XD :-(

But I would be happy if something similar to what "Headlikeabow" has uploaded on youtube was eventually released in a dvd format as a torrent.



Blackbookpress1984: Trent said that, but Woodstock 94 is undoubtly a classic performance that deserves something better than what is available right now (imo).

Pyract
08-14-2013, 01:02 PM
@Max Leo (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1390): I reckon the possibilities for improvements are rather limited. A VHS tape from 1994 can only be made to look and sound so good. Did it even look substantially better to begin with? I'm not an expert either, but the old saying about polishing a turd definitely applies.

If a master tape was somehow unearthed, maybe. But god knows where that is. The rough state of the Woodstock footage on the official Closure Appendage indicates the band hasn't been able to utilise one. So I think we're stuck with the off-air-sources. Which is fortunately more than good enough, in my opinion.
Have you by chance seen Collected? There was a Woodstock clip on there (Reptile) and it was very clear, which indicates they at least had access to some kind of master tape for Collected. My theory is if Closure would have actually been released commercially, the clip there would've been replaced with one from a master.

Fred
08-14-2013, 02:39 PM
I have, but don't remember that clip being clearer than the usual. You could be right about Closure. Too bad sharing a copy straight from the master is probably too hot for Trent.

Papagolash
08-14-2013, 09:18 PM
But where is the tambourine? And where are the "heys" and the clap alongs? Is this really NIN??? :p



PS: Put your headphones:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wBaQMCE9aQ

That sounds so much better than other youtube videos for this show...

The rest of the serlist:

http://www.youtube.com/user/headlikeabowl?feature=watch

This has by far, and always will be the best performance of Terrible Lie ever. Absofuckinglutely love it.

pigpen
08-14-2013, 10:49 PM
And all you miserable muddy fuckheads are alright!!!

Conan The Barbarian
08-15-2013, 05:33 AM
Awww man.

This brings so many memories back into the mix.

This was pretty much the beginning of me getting serious into music.

We had a black box so I got to watch the whole festival.

This and green day's gig were my favorite.

I miss the 90's.

Halo Infinity
08-20-2013, 08:24 AM
I'm still very much addicted to this performance. It's what I usually look up every time I search for Nine Inch Nails on YouTube. My most favorite songs from that gig would have to be Terrible Lie, Down In It, The Only Time, Happiness In Slavery, Closer, and Reptile.