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Halo Infinity
11-30-2011, 11:49 PM
I just got into Killing Joke this year, and I wish I had discovered Killing Joke much sooner. I hope I'm off to a good start with their music as I have gotten Night Time, and have thought about getting Brighter Than a Thousand Suns and Hosannas from the Basements of Hell next. I've also kept reading good things about their self-titled debut, so I'm definitely going to check that album out without a doubt too.

http://www.killingjoke.com/

https://www.facebook.com/killingjokeofficial

https://twitter.com/Killingjokeband

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_Joke

frankie teardrop
12-06-2011, 12:17 PM
killing joke are amazing- top shelf. from the self titled up to and including brighter than a thousand suns, it's all awesome. i can't vouch for anything after (haven't listened), but i'll get back to you on that.

GoodSoldier333
12-11-2011, 12:02 PM
First learned of these guys after playing Need For Speed Underground 2 on the xbox way back. Their track The Death and Resurrection Show was on it, and i've loved that track ever since.

Piko
12-11-2011, 12:58 PM
Amazing band! I started on the 2003 album. Brighter Than A Thousand Suns and Night Time are great, different, but great. I'm very partial towards What's THIS For. Fall of Because and Butcher slay me every time.

Halo Infinity
12-11-2011, 10:59 PM
I might actually get the self-titled 2003 album next. (And no, I will not overlook the 1980 one either. ;)) I have ordered Hosannas from the Basements of Hell though, and like other bands, I'm just amazed at all the changes they went through.

Piko
12-11-2011, 11:09 PM
Seems like they're done with changing it up though. Last few albums are pretty identical, almost. Luckily, the albums don't suck (most of them anyway).

Highly Psychological
12-13-2011, 01:36 AM
This was the first band i ever saw live, dont want to say how long ago because its embarrassing and makes me sound really old. Their 1980 debut is their best record, it one of my favorite albums of all time. Its much better than you think its going to be.

It sounds like Public Image Ltds first record. But better. I love a lot of the suff this band have done. Their 2003 comeback album was amazing.

Requiem and Wardance =awesome. That guitar sound is epic.

frankie teardrop
12-13-2011, 11:15 AM
that first record is amazing. my favorite tracks:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvnJ2-owQXw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDwhZEFk5W4

(b-side to 'requiem' on some of the pressings of the LP as well)

Piko
12-13-2011, 11:41 AM
Bloodsport!

JamesKKelly
12-13-2011, 04:43 PM
I love quite a lot of their albums but I decided the compilation 'Chaos for Breakfast' is never getting deleted from my Ipod...ever. For spacial reasons a few bands only get the greatest hits or singles treatment but this a damn good representation of their sound.

Halo Infinity
12-13-2011, 08:32 PM
(b-side to 'requiem' on some of the pressings of the LP as well)
Awesome, just brilliant. I'm definitely looking forward to try to get as much Killing Joke as possible. A favorite Killing Joke B-side of mine as of now has been Universe B.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2GAZfZ1RqI

dlb
12-14-2011, 06:24 PM
Geordie Walker is one of my favorite guitar players out there! Every KJ album has its highlights in my book, while my favorites are "night time", "brighter than a thousand suns" and the later self titled together with "hosannas from the basement of hell". Their new one is pretty solid too and I can't wait for their next one and the supporting tour in 2012.

While that band is a bitch to be a fan of, since they like to cancel tours and postpone their albums with alot of unofficial and not really worthy stuff being released, a proper album from KJ is sure to make an appearance on any of my "best of year XXXX" lists!

I'd like to know what Trent thinks of them now. I know he has mentioned them a few times, but a collaboration would be out of this world!

dlb
02-07-2012, 08:40 AM
I just love this band:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCsRwRYXFkg

As of now The Icarus Line and The Crying Spell will be supporting their European Tour.

xmd 5a
02-07-2012, 07:18 PM
I've heard bits and pieces from all over their discography. Great band.

I know it's like their most well-known song, but I cannot overstate how much I enjoy "Love Like Blood". The guitar in that track is eargasmic.

Hazekiah
02-08-2012, 02:07 AM
Every single album is amazing and somehow they just keep kicking MORE AND MORE ass the older they get!

Easily one of my favorite bands.

Really hoping they tour the U.S. again soon and that I DON'T forget my camcorder battery like a retard this time, lol. Oh, well...it was pretty epic almost SINGLEHANDEDLY getting the Chicago indie-shoegazer crowd to remember they had a fucking pulse, at least! Wouldn't have been able to rock out like that if I'd been filming, so it's all good.


I'd like to know what Trent thinks of them now. I know he has mentioned them a few times, but a collaboration would be out of this world!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfdBjuOdmHQ

dlb
02-08-2012, 02:17 AM
Wow, I totally forgot about that remix. Guess that's what brought the NIN/KJ connection to my mind.

Hazekiah
02-08-2012, 02:54 AM
Youth did a badass mix of "mOBSCENE" for Manson with Kieth Flint on vocals, too:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZFqM-h_Cf0


And is everyone here familiar with The Damage Manual?

It's probably one of my all-time favorite quasi-indie supergroups and has Geordie on lead guitar:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmoVIKDlZS8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zri8N2Z7Ulg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2DLl3EF4vk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spCcsdmXi1E


Just a taste for teh n00bs, of course. There's TONS more, but NOWHERE NEAR enough!

\m/

Piko
02-08-2012, 08:53 AM
Damage Manual is pretty awesome. Shame there won't be anymore. The EP's easily got to be my favorite.

Hazekiah
02-08-2012, 09:32 AM
Did I miss something?

Did someone die or officially declare there's never gonna be a follow-up or something?

I mean, I know it's been a while and no one's getting younger or anything...but, hell, look at Killing Joke still out there kickin' ass!

Just curious and on the cusp of a broken heart here, lol.

I <3 DAMAGE.

;)

uroboros
03-22-2012, 12:18 AM
KJ's new album, MMXII, is set to be unleashed April 2nd.

New single and video are also out there.

Has it oozed out onto the net yet though?

Carpathian Psychonaut
03-22-2012, 03:15 AM
KJ's new album, MMXII, is set to be unleashed April 2nd.

New single and video are also out there.

Has it oozed out onto the net yet though?

Have heard of any drippage yet but I'm trying to be good on this one as it's so close already.

Having heard half the new one live and also caught how some of the tracks sound in their studio form, either leaked or promo wise, I can honestly say I have very high hopes for this one. It's sounding pretty damn majestic. If any of you catch them playing "Polar Shift" live then watch out for the mosh pit when the mad, mad, chorus bits drop in - that was insane!

Piko
03-22-2012, 08:10 AM
Going to try holding off until the release date. Not everyday I do a thing like that.

Space Suicide
03-22-2012, 08:42 AM
I like 'em and welcome any new material that comes our way.

Carpathian Psychonaut
03-28-2012, 06:42 AM
You know when bands that have been around for ever start to trot out that line that their forthcoming album "is the best they've ever done" or "a new defining point in their career" or even that all their previous albums were them "leading up to this album" and it all sounds like a bit of a marketing cliché written by committee and it has the effect of setting a bar so high in fan's minds that when the release drops it's never quite that good?

MMXII does not have that problem. It IS that good.

Yeah, the mastering and production could do with a tweak here and there - that's a given for KJ these days - but by good god does it deliver!

There are touchstones all through that remind but never copy classic periods in their career but this is one solid, cohesive body of work with power and emotion absolutely undimmed & unbowed.

I've been listening to this band for the 31 years from "Killing Joke" to "MMXII" and I'm truly overjoyed this is now where they've got to.

If you're fan then prepare to be very pleased indeed.

Piko
03-28-2012, 07:32 AM
Maybe I haven't given the album enough of a chance yet. But, so far I've only managed to click with just a couple of songs. I've yet to sit down and really absorb it though. It's good, but as of right now, I might like Absolute Dissent a little bit more. That could change though.

Carpathian Psychonaut
03-28-2012, 08:03 AM
I'm surprised at that though it is, of course, all just personal opinions.

I really wanted to love Absolute Dissent but for parts of it I couldn't help feeling it was a bit of a "nearly" album for me.

Still very good and in parts brilliant but that thought in the back of my mind was that it was a half-step to one side of the rest of the catalogue like it needed to be/do something specific for the band for that release.

This one just seems like it sits absolutely with the back catalogue right back through the stand out releases - not so much an album at a point in time but one on the same ongoing trajectory.

Hard to explain - hope it makes some sort of sense!

Piko
03-28-2012, 08:59 AM
Of course. AD did have some stinkers/filler tracks. But the songs that were good, really excelled. In Excelsis is easily a KJ favorite of mine now. One thing I'm noticing with this album, though, is that there seems to be remnants from every album prior. I hear a little bit of Night Time, a little bit of Pandemonium and Democracy, and a lot of the older stuff. It mixed well. Maybe my expectations were set a little too high. And maybe when I come back down to earth, I'll "get it". Regardless, I'm still buying this on Tuesday.

dlb
03-31-2012, 08:58 AM
I really like this album as expected! While I love this band I have a hard time enjoying their albums as a whole, but this delivers! AD grabbed me immediately but I soon left it staying on my CD shelf and never really came back for it.

Instant favorites so far: polar shift, corporate elect, trance and rapture

EDIT: The album is really a grower. It's gotten better and better with each listen. I think they might have outdone themselves with this one. It just flows so well and neatly combines everything that I love KJ for. Can't wait for their show in almost 3 weeks!

exilajei
04-13-2012, 04:32 PM
Just thought I'd chime in on how great the new album is. I was pretty bummed I missed their last stop in Toronto, hopefully they'll be back in North America in the not too distant future.

Sutekh
04-14-2012, 08:23 AM
Extremities, dirt and various repressed emotions is my favourite, i'm surprised it doesn't get more praise. If you like NINs broken ep, manics holy bible, early PiL its a sure bet.... Money is not our god is one of their best ever and i am astounded they do not play it live

Halo Infinity
09-01-2013, 01:21 AM
If I wasn't away, I would've posted about the Killing Joke concert on April 19th at the Irving Plaza ASAP. It was also very nice to see that Killing Joke played Money Is Not Our God, and felt very fortunate to have seen them play Turn To Red, Empire Song, Chop-Chop, Sun Goes Down, and Pssyche, especially when I looked them up after the show. (I'm still fairly new to them, so I had no idea about those songs before.) I also liked the way Jaz Coleman moved on stage. I can see how it very likely of Jaz to have also influenced Al Jourgensen in that way too.

My other highlights from that gig were also Requiem, The Wait, Eighties, Money Is Not Our God, The Beautiful Dead, Whiteout, Pandemonium, and The Death and Resurrection Show. I thoroughly enjoyed the entire show, and would like to see them again if given the chance.

As for any news on the latest release, all I found was the The Singles Collection 1979-2012, which came out on June 4th, but I've figured that most longtime/huge fans would've already heard it all by now. I actually thought of getting it too, but I also thought of getting the rest of the actual albums first.

ziltoid
06-23-2015, 10:50 PM
Killing Joke announced a new album called Pylon it will be out later this year. So far details about the album is scarce.
http://www.killingjoke.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/10464246_931383120246407_2696921246343625984_n.jpg

A new song off of the album Pylon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo82-yCFnWs
I'm not really feeling this song. Hopefully the album version will get more of my attention.

Shadaloo
06-29-2015, 01:52 PM
Frigging NICE. Been on a major KJ trip for much of the last year, on and off.

And GO SEE THEM if they come to your neck of the woods. Can't emphasize that enough. When they came to my town for The Singles Collection, they destroyed. I went from casually interested to die-hard overnight.

\m/Brighter Than A Thousand Suns\m/

ziltoid
09-11-2015, 09:47 AM
The new album, released on October 23rd via Spinefarm Records (https://www.facebook.com/spinefarm), PYLON is available to pre-order now from http://bit.ly/KJpylon.

10 track album + second CD including 5 bonus studio tracks.
Disc One
01 Autonomous Zone
02 Dawn Of The Hive
03 New Cold War
04 Euphoria
05 New Jerusalem
06 War On Freedom
07 Big Buzz
08 Delete
09 I Am The Virus
10 Into The Unknown
Disc Two
01 Apotheosis
02 Plague
03 Star Spangled
04 Panopticon
05 Snakedance (Youth ‘Rattlesnake Dub’ Remix)
*All tracks featured on disc 2 are brand new studio recordings

I can hardly wait! I need me some new Killing Joke!
Hopefully next year the do an expansive tour in the U.S.

Also they have a new music video up for I Am The Virus but for some reason its region locked :(.

ziltoid
09-11-2015, 12:26 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4wdbibV3IM
Holy shit! Definitely worth the wait!
Strong song to debut the album and I hope the rest of the songs are just as good.

Reaps
09-11-2015, 12:51 PM
Sounds pretty good though the whole 9/11, terrorism, oil, anti goverment etc thing is getting so tiresome now. Especially since Ministry have been flogging the same shit for the last ten years or so. Also like the fact that it's got a proper chorus in this and not repeating the same line(title track) over and over..like oh so many KJ songs before it.

Mutilated
09-14-2015, 05:49 AM
Psyched for the new album. But the Pledge pre-orders are super expensive, cheaper on Amazon anyway.

Shadaloo
09-14-2015, 10:06 AM
At the very least, Jez keeps it entertaining due to his belief in half of the conspiracy theories that come down the pike. I can forgive that, unlike Al's rambling incoherent mess (not that i disagreed with the sentiment).

MAINTAIN GLOBAL POPULATION BELOW 500 MILLION!!!!!! :D

2CD version for me.

Maximilian
09-14-2015, 10:49 AM
Great mother of fuck, has this been one of the greatest years for new music since the mid-90s or what?

I'm feeling that way, too.

Mutilated
09-15-2015, 07:18 AM
Psyched for the new album. But the Pledge pre-orders are super expensive, cheaper on Amazon anyway.


Jeeezuz, the Amazon price just jumped up to 20.16GBP for the deluxe version. FFS.

Shadaloo
10-02-2015, 10:02 AM
Are these guys even capable of disappointing? Awesome, awesome track.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVf4_aicuHg

Jord
10-03-2015, 12:14 PM
I snagged a ticket to the Manchester Ritz gig in a month, cannot wait. Last time I saw them was the Hosannas tour, and the last tour with Raven. The sound wasn't too good that gig, but Hosannas holds a special place in my heart. Strength to strength since the reunion and Absolute Dissent, they can not put a single foot wrong.

pulse
10-03-2015, 11:42 PM
Jaz is one of the greatest rock vocalists of all time. So excited for the new album. So stoked I will get to see them perform live. Oh man, what a way to kick off 2016.

caca
10-05-2015, 12:50 AM
This is one of those bands I'd heard a lot about over the years, but for some reason, I just never bothered to check them out.

They popped in my head last week, so I grabbed my headphones and finally gave them a proper listen. Now I'm completely hooked. Wow!!! These guys are badass!

"Discovering" a band that's been around for 35+ years, with a large discography, that's still making great music is a rare treat for me. I'm still combing through their albums, but so far, I'm really digging their early-mid 80's stuff and their 2003+ albums.

They'll be in Phoenix in January, along with The Soft Moon (love 'em). I can't wait to hear the new album and catch them on tour.

Exocet
10-05-2015, 03:21 AM
Indeed, this band are amazing. So influential. I like many still hold in affection ....their first self titled album from 1980 the most, one of my fav albums of all time. Just Post Punk at its finest. Its the type of debut album most bands would dream of making. however

I think the album Pandemonium (1994) their first with Youth for a decade is jawdropping at points, followed by Killing Joke 2003, i love the production on that album. The nasty crunchy guitar sounds particuarly epic on that album.
I was never a massive fan of Whats this For?? or Revelations, but loved the slightly New Wave sounding mid 80s album Night Time.

Probably their most underrated and heaviest album Extremities, Pain Dirt is great too.

I really want to see them live on this tour.

frankie teardrop
10-05-2015, 07:45 AM
i LOVE what's this for....!, especially 'follow the leaders'- though i generally go for new wave more than a lot of folks around here. revelations never did much for me though...

i also have a LOT of love for brighter than a thousand sons which is universally shunned. i love it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5MftVtnU_k

i caught their last (?) tour at irving plaza and it kicked ass...basically a greatest hits set that was all killer, no filler.

Piko
10-05-2015, 09:45 AM
Only album I consider "weak" is Outside the Gate, which technically isn't really a KJ album to begin with. Brighter than... is one of my favorites.

ziltoid
10-05-2015, 02:03 PM
Killing Joke has many hidden gems, out takes, alternative versions, remixes, dub variations, and rarities with so many different songs.
Chaos For Breakfast is a great example and one of my favorite releases.
Absolute Respect has some really good to ok covers and interpretations and its definitely work checking out for those who haven't.

pulse
10-16-2015, 03:33 PM
Jesus Christ... This sounds like '81-'85 Killing Joke. They're on fucking fire right now. I'm going to lose my mind at this upcoming show.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUdFffQRVDI

Shadaloo
10-17-2015, 01:06 AM
Jesus Christ... This sounds like '81-'85 Killing Joke. They're on fucking fire right now. I'm going to lose my mind at this upcoming show.


You're not kidding. They're doing 30-second clips of every song on their FB and holy shit does New Cold War ever make me salivate to hear the rest. I thought Absolute Dissent was a frigging outstanding album for a band to make after such a huge career, but this is legit shaping up to maybe be one of their very, very best.

Fuck, I HOPE AND PRAY they come back to Montreal...

Shadaloo
10-19-2015, 11:08 AM
Drippity drip drip

Spoilers: It's fucking amazing

Reaps
10-19-2015, 12:54 PM
^Agreed! 'Dawn of the Hive' is fucking incredible, god knows how KJ are still capable of this level of quality after all this time..

Piko
10-20-2015, 03:28 PM
They've done it again! Most bands after 30 years lose a few steps. Not KJ. Another solid album. Unless they go the Outside the Gate route again, I don't think they can do any wrong. Only way I see age catching up to them is Jaz's lack of screaming. Aside from that, he sounds great. You would think after all the years of screaming, his voice would be shot. How it isn't is beyond me. Musically, this is a great album. No signs of them losing it or slowing down.

Exocet
10-20-2015, 09:58 PM
This is their best album since Killing Joke 2003... Its fucking intense

One thing ive noticed, The post punk era bands have had the longest longevity of any form of rock music, maybe its some sort of mindset thing , Killing Joke, Wire, Swans, Foetus, i even like PILs new album, ....i saw Cabaret Voltaire last year blow me away with new music.....they have been around for decades yet they still kick ass and sound vital.
They never sterilized their sound like so many do. Its awesome.

caca
10-23-2015, 10:28 AM
I just downloaded it from Rdio. About to take it for a spin...

Shadaloo
10-23-2015, 10:54 AM
That's really saying something, considering we've gotten Hosannas and Absolute Dissent since KJ2003.

Am I the only one here who would NOT fucking be disappointed AT ALL if they made another album or two in the same vein as their 80's new wave phase? The last record had a sort of throwback to that era with "In Cytherea"; does this new one have anything similar on it?

I think myself and frankie_teardrop would be right there with you. I know we all hold Night Time and Brighter Than A Thousand Suns in pretty high regard.

And I'd say that this album definitely calls back to those in a few places. Euphoria and New Cold War come to mind.

Hazekiah
10-23-2015, 11:51 AM
Honestly, I'd rather have another KJ album with Grohl on drums...but ANY KJ album is a GREAT KJ album so it's w/e.

Anything they feel like recording and releasing is something I fucking DESPERATELY want to hear.

\m/

Shadaloo
10-24-2015, 12:33 AM
Picked up my 2-disc edition today. The bonus disc hadn't surfaced beforehand.



And I'd say that this album definitely calls back to those in a few places. Euphoria and New Cold War come to mind.

Adding Plague to that list. Holy fuck, adding Plague. Bonus disc is very very well worth the few extra bucks if you're going CD.

pulse
10-24-2015, 08:05 PM
This is my favorite motherfucking album of the year! Holy shit I can't believe how amazing this album is....just absolute power on every track. The level of tribal power and intensity Paul Ferguson is playing at on these tracks at his age is insane.

pulse
10-24-2015, 08:11 PM
Jaz's voice is just on fire right now. If you can't get up and lose your shit to these choruses, you need a body bag.

pulse
10-24-2015, 08:32 PM
"Delete" is incredible. So is "Into the Unknown". I'm addicted to the entire album. A complete throw it on and just go crazy album. There's not a poor track on it. They just handed everyone their asses.

pulse
10-27-2015, 08:31 PM
Am I the only one geeking out over this album? Come on now...

ziltoid
10-28-2015, 09:29 AM
You’re not the only one but I like some time to get an emotional bond with the album just like Night Time.
It hits the right spot when I feel a certain mood for it or any of their albums for that matter.
It takes me a while for any album or a particular song to grown on me.

For example, This world Hell, and New Uprising, really get me pumped up and those where the first songs to really capture my full attention when I first heard them.
The entire album of Brighter Than a Thousand Suns makes me feel like I'm not alone when I'm feeling a bit down.
I mean the songs Adorations and Sanity help me cope with looking at what’s wrong with the world as a whole.

Not many artists let alone a band play their music truthfully and with conviction. This is why I hold Killing Joke in high regard.
Then there is The Raven King, that song to me has a lasting appeal and reminds me one of my favorite and most influential artist that has played in nearly every band that I care for.
(Prong, Ministry, and the web of other artist that he worked with that led me to discover more amazing music).


I always have no expectations when I listen to a new Killing Joke album and try to let the music speak to me and see what the band intentions are and the meaning they try to portray.
Sometimes it takes a little longer to fully comprehend and digest the music such as Pylon.
So far Pylon is an incredible album but I don't want to get swayed by the hype and like to draw my own conclusions.


Edit: I completely forgot the reason I came to post here was to link this article, which is a short and really good interview with Jaz.
http://www.teamrock.com/features/2015-10-27/thinking-out-loud-killing-joke-s-jaz-coleman-1

uroboros
11-03-2015, 03:47 PM
and only two live bonus tracks of songs that have zero relation to the album proper.

Live tracks? on the Pylon LP? IS this true? I thought it was Panopticon & snakedance only...

uroboros
11-03-2015, 05:38 PM
But snakedance on the vinyl is the original song, right? lucky dog. That's exclusive, unlike that unlistenable dub remix of snakedance. be happy! You have PYLON on vinyl! I am jealous, but the lack of lyrics is silly.

caca
11-07-2015, 10:40 AM
I was about to buy tickets for their show in Phoenix, but noticed that there's a meet-and-greet/soundcheck option for an extra $75. Worth it? Are they pretty chatty/cool guys?

Jord
11-07-2015, 11:26 AM
Pylon is way more stunning and incredible than I ever thought it would be, I loved AD, MMXII wasn't too bad and had a load of belters but this one just tops them all. It's still kinda revealing its power to me after a lot of listens, but to produce something like this so far into their career is incredible. Apotheosis is so very Hosannas-esque in all the right ways. All the riffs are killer and there is a lot of weight to the album, truly brilliant.

I saw them at Manchester last weekend, and they brought it harder than bands half their age struggle to. I was a few pints deep, and Geordie's guitar onstage was just otherworldly. They also played Panopticon & Exorcism which made my evening.

Long Live The Joke.

Halo Infinity
11-13-2015, 11:41 PM
I'm definitely happy and thankful that I'll hopefully get a chance to see Killing Joke for the second time on a Saturday night next year. I felt like I lucked out as the first Killing Joke concert I've attended was a Friday night. As for Pylon, I really don't have much to say or add right now as other posters have summed up my exact thoughts. Dare I say though, it seemed to click with me a lot faster than MMXII did.

I Am The Virus also seems to be their latest music video to date, and even though it's a lyric video, I'll still take it. Aside from it being Killing Joke, I've always liked lyric videos anyway, and heck, they're sometimes fun to sing along to. :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4wdbibV3IM

caca
11-14-2015, 09:22 PM
My boner for this band is raging right now. I've been listening to them pretty much daily for the past couple of months. Does anyone know where I can download/purchase digital copies of their 90's albums? They're not on iTunes/Apple Music, Amazon, Rdio, or any of the places that I normally visit.

Findus
11-18-2015, 12:21 AM
Jaz talking about various things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC8xpCqt2hs

Halo Infinity
11-19-2015, 09:49 AM
@NYRexall (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=911) - Please pardon my ignorance as I'm still roughly new to Killing Joke. I forgot to ask this question earlier, but is Democracy hardly played anymore? (I was actually hoping to hear Prozac People and Pilgrimage on my first concert, but noticed that they didn't touch Democracy at all.) And if I'm not mistaken, is Outside the Gate the only Killing Joke album that sticks out like a sore thumb among The Gatherers?

As for calling the fan-base Gatherers, when did that actually come about?

I also like to sometimes make analogies when talking about certain bands, but as far as standing the test of time since the 1980s, would Killing Joke sort of be like the Deftones and would Ministry be like Korn? (This is more like a reverse analogy as you can see, but I thought you'd be the perfect person to ask as I've noticed that you also loved the Deftones.)

Would it also be safe to assume that there is a huge crossover between The Piss Army and The Gatherers?

As for a random Killing Joke thought, Money Is Not Our God really struck a nerve with me along with Age Of Greed. (Which I'm sure can also refer to the greed with in, which also ties in with gluttony.) Those songs really won me over as it's always thought-provoking to for me to be reminded of seeing just how money can be exactly like a god, especially after always seeing "In God we trust." on United States currency. I ended up chasing possessions and experiences a lot more than I should've and just forgot to live life and also took things for granted without even realizing it. And well, I'm still thankful and appreciative for what I've got, but those songs really reminded me to put such things into perspective in a sort of George Carlin/Bill Hicks sort of way. And with that being said, I also loved the video too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vVDWQlHLOE

ziltoid
03-29-2016, 12:26 AM
Jaz Coleman's reinterpretations of classic Killing Joke songs with the St Petersburg State Symphony Orchestra.


(http://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/symphonic-killing-joke)The new album from Jaz Coleman sees the Killing Joke frontman collaborate with the St Petersburg State Symphony Orchestra on new versions of classic Killing Joke songs from throughout the band’s career. (http://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/symphonic-killing-joke)
(http://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/symphonic-killing-joke)‘Symphonic Killing Joke’ will be available on download and signed CD or LP, alongside a host of exclusives – from attending the recording of the album in Russia to signed music scores and artwork. There will also be a very exclusive one-off London ‘PledgeMusic Presents’ show, featuring Jaz and accompanying orchestra – to be added at a later date.
(http://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/symphonic-killing-joke)


(http://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/symphonic-killing-joke)
What I really want is for Jaz to record Sanity, Nigh Time, Love Like Blood and, Kings and Queens for this album.

ziltoid
03-30-2016, 11:47 AM
New music video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDwx9JOy4LU

ziltoid
06-22-2016, 06:25 PM
The Death and Resurrection Show: ILC Productions and Coffee Films present a feature length music documentary charting the turbulent, dramatic and often unbelievable journey of the British post-punk industrial legends Killing Joke. Through a barrage of music, video and deeply personal interviews shot across six continents over the last twelve years, the film traces three and a half decades of turbulent, chaotic history through both archive and new footage. From rituals at Stonehenge to worship on the Nazca Lines, recording sessions in the heart of the Great Pyramid and exploration of a parallel universe on an Icelandic glacier, and the search for a mysterious island that could survive the Tribulation: this is the definitive story of Killing Joke, and you’ve never heard anything else like it.




https://vimeo.com/98608624

http://killingjokemovie.com/product/buy-the-deluxe-dvd/

Holy shit this is going to be f'n amazing. I can not wait to get my hands on it.

astfgyl
04-18-2017, 05:55 PM
Ok bit of resurrection here but I skipped page 2 and I'm relatively new to these forums so what is anybody's favourite era of this band and care to elaborate? Been a personal favourite of mine for many years now.

pulse
04-18-2017, 06:11 PM
The Extremities, Dirt and Various Repressed Emotions through Pandemonium with Paul Raven had always been my favorite Killing Joke era; however, the past few albums have topped everything for me. The original lineup has been fire and on top of their game for a while now.

pulse
04-18-2017, 06:26 PM
In retrospect, this is kind of a tough decision because at times I also heavily enjoy their Post-Punk New Wave, early-to-mid 80s material as well. Love Like Blood, Nighttime, etc.; but I suppose nothing tops the newer stuff for me.

I apologize for clearly not being helpful at all here.

astfgyl
04-18-2017, 06:52 PM
I don't mind the new stuff myself but I like all eras of the band. Extremities is probably my favourite. Night time, pandemonium and Absolute Dissent ater that, but I like all of it. I don't think the last couple have been as good as AD, but close in places. I wouldn't mind some sort of a shift in style with whatever comes next though as I sort of feel that the current sound has reached its logical conclusion.

Piko
04-19-2017, 12:42 AM
My favorite is probably What's THIS For?! They only really have one bad album. And it's not really a KJ album.

Shadaloo
04-19-2017, 12:54 AM
It's a hard choice. In a pinch I'd give it to the Night Time - Brighter Than A Thousand Suns period, but there's no denying most of their material is top-notch. Very few albums even come close to being bad, and yeah, Outside The Gate was just a Jaz Coleman solo album rebranded because record label bullshit so it barely counts.

Know what I think's an underrated album though? Democracy. It gets lost amidst everything else and I goddamn well love it.

dlb
04-19-2017, 02:08 AM
Very few bands like Killing Joke out there anymore. Sometimes it's hard to be a fan with all the promies being made, yet they continue to release quality albums and their live shows are still amazing. Personally I cannot name a favorite, but I love the stuff from 2003 self titled onwards as much as I adore the "eighties" (literally) era. Too bad they don't play that stuff often apart from of course eighties and love like blood. Geordie Walker might easily be one of the most underrated guitar players out there.

But I do have to confess that I really have to be in the mood for KJ to fully appreciate them. Sometimes their albums are released and I couldn't care less, yet again there are times where they fully hit the nail on its head for me. Either way, I keep coming back to this band all the time and I always look forward to a new tour date near my area.

ziltoid
04-10-2018, 07:30 PM
Killing Joke are celebrating their 40th anniversary this year with two editions of special career-spanning Fortieth Anniversary Ultimate Collection box sets. The first version is a set of 16 double CDs, including expanded editions of each of the band’s 15 albums, plus a collection of further bonus material, priced at $232. The vinyl edition includes 16 colored double LPs packaged in a flight case with a set of headphones and a signed lyric book, priced at $852.


http://www.post-punk.com/killing-joke-announce-40th-anniversary-box-set/
It's a shame that the one really fantastic track off of MMXII "New Uprising" is nowhere to be seen on these releases.
This is insanely overpriced and the shipping cost sounds like it's going to be very expensive.

Space Suicide
04-10-2018, 07:55 PM
and love like blood.

Such a perfect song can never be overplayed or performed.

pulse
04-10-2018, 09:21 PM
Really tempted for the VIP package. But their last two attempts at touring the States ran into snags. Better make certain those packages are refundable if they cancel; but as the old saying goes, third time's a charm. Still, this could very well be the last opportunity to see one of the most iconic and important post-punk alternative acts of the last 40 years.

Shadaloo
04-10-2018, 09:40 PM
No Canada dates. Shame. Still count myself crazy lucky I got to see them in 2012.

Also: where the hell is the Goodbye To The Village B-side from from BTATS?

armogi
04-10-2018, 10:37 PM
These are some small venues, they aimed bigger last time, maybe why they cancelled...

pulse
04-10-2018, 10:53 PM
These are some small venues, they aimed bigger last time, maybe why they cancelled...

They claimed "health issues" within the band as reason for canceling the 2016 NA tour. No idea how that tour was selling; however, I do prefer the intimate setting with this band. It should be glorious and intense as it's the fucking Killing Joke!

henryeatscereal
04-11-2018, 09:12 AM
Oh my god, i can't wait to watch them live for the very first time!

ziltoid
04-11-2018, 03:46 PM
Oh my god, i can't wait to watch them live for the very first time!

Same here, I got time to save up for it, might as well go big!
I just gotta make sure I can get some of those dates off for work.

NotoriousTIMP
08-29-2018, 02:07 PM
Anyone have an extra ticket for the SF show that happens next tuesday?

pulse
08-29-2018, 02:11 PM
I'm seeing the Killing Joke next week!

pulse
09-09-2018, 01:16 AM
So excited and full of emotions right now. I am seeing a favorite band, since I first got into music as a kid, tomorrow evening for the very first time.

Jord
09-09-2018, 11:52 AM
So excited and full of emotions right now. I am seeing a favorite band, since I first got into music as a kid, tomorrow evening for the very first time.

Hyped for you! I caught them on the Hosannas tour, and most recently on the Pylon tour. Three outstanding albums deep into the reunion and still a very very powerful live force to be reckoned with - not a lot of bands are like KJ this far into their career.

pulse
09-09-2018, 10:25 PM
Mind.. Blown...

Jord
09-10-2018, 05:35 AM
Mind.. Blown...

What was the setlist, anything really juicy?

pulse
09-10-2018, 12:36 PM
What was the setlist, anything really juicy?

Love Like Blood
European Super State
Autonomous Zone
Eighties
New Cold War
Requiem
Butcher
Follow the Leaders
Loose Cannon
Labyrinth
Corporate Elect
Asteroid
The Wait
Pssyche

Encore:
Death and Resurrection Show
Wardance
Pandemonium

They were on fire!

ziltoid
09-10-2018, 03:33 PM
I’m about to do the VIP meet and great in an few. Is there anything you guys want me to ask Jaz on your behalf?

henryeatscereal
09-10-2018, 03:37 PM
I don't have tickets yet, but i'm planning to catch them next week!

pulse
09-10-2018, 03:40 PM
I’m about to do the VIP meet and great in an few. Is there anything you guys want me to ask Jaz on your behalf?

Just thank the band for rewarding their U.S. fans with this tour. Oh, and also please tell them to not give up on the people that live here. Most Americans feel ashamed about our politics/government and change is coming. There is hope.

ziltoid
09-10-2018, 03:47 PM
Lol, I was going to do that regardless. I might bring up Mont Sherar and the book he worked on, The Twilight of Mortals. I’ve yet to buy it.

Jord
09-10-2018, 04:11 PM
Lol, I was going to do that regardless. I might bring up Mont Sherar and the book he worked on, The Twilight of Mortals. I’ve yet to buy it.

Have a good time! Ask when we can expect a new record ��

Good to see DARS, Asteroid and LOOSE CANNON!! Looks like geordie eventually relented on some more 2003 stuff

ziltoid
09-10-2018, 05:43 PM
Jaz was the fucking coolest! I asked about the symphonic album and he had someone bring a luggage to him and he dugout an old MP3 player and played the Symphonic version of Absent Friends for us! He said it’s coming out soon!

Helpmeiaminhell (is now in hell)
11-01-2018, 10:51 PM
I said it before and will say it again...Pandemonium is fucking brilliant.....That record needs to get more attention. One of their top 3 albums

Prettybrokenspiral
11-11-2018, 07:43 AM
Let's do this..

1. Democracy
2. Hosannas
3. Night Time
4. Absolute Dissent
5. Fire Dances
6. Killing Joke (2003)
7. Pandemonium
8. Extremities
9. What's THIS For...!
10. Brighter Than a Thousand Suns
11. Revelations
12. Killing Joke (1980)
13. MMXII
14. Pylon
15. Out the Gate

Pylon and MMXII are both perfectly fine, I just haven't lived into them yet as much as their other albums. Outside the Gate...yea, fuck that album lmao.

While other legacy bands like the RHCP, Smashing Pumpkins, Tool and Pearl Jam continue to embarrass themselves year after year, KJ fucking deliver with virtually every album. No band in their late 50s should be expected to make music that stands up to their prime era from 20-30 years ago, and yet this band always manages to do so just fine. Maybe only NIN can say the same..

Helpmeiaminhell (is now in hell)
11-11-2018, 11:58 AM
While other legacy bands like the RHCP, Smashing Pumpkins, Tool and Pearl Jam continue to embarrass themselves year after year, KJ fucking deliver with virtually every album. No band in their late 50s should be expected to make music that stands up to their prime era from 20-30 years ago, and yet this band always manages to do so just fine. Maybe only NIN can say the same..

And Dinosaur Jr who are also making their best music ever

1. Pandemonium
2. Killing Joke (1980)
3. Killing Joke (2003)
4. Democracy
5. Revelations
6. Fire Dances
7. Absolute Dissent
8. Night Time
9. Exremities
10. Whats THIS For...
11. MMXII
12. Hosannas
13. Brighter Than a Thousand Suns
14. Pylon
15. Outside The Gate (does this count as an album?)

Bear in min 7-12 are all basically equal and great.....13 is solid but was getting too close to Duran Duran territory. Pylon I havent absorbed yet....Pandemonium is their best. Full on fucking assault. The Ministry album Al Jourgensen wishes he made....2003 is also a masterpiece..Revelations is the under-rated masterpiece that gets overlooked. Honorable mention goes to their 1979 debut EP Turn To Red which is also great and would fit in somewhere between 10-12

Shadaloo
11-11-2018, 11:14 PM
1. Night Time
2. Democracy
3. Killing Joke (1980)
4. Killing Joke (2003)
5. Brighter Than a Thousand Suns
6. Hosannas From the Basements Of Hell
7. Pandemonium
8. Absolute Dissent
9. Extremities, Dirt etc.
10. Revelations
11. Whats THIS For...
12. Fire Dances
13. Pylon
14. MMXII
15. Outside The Gate

Still fuming they toured with Pig and it was absolutely nowhere near me. The 2012 tour remains one of the best shows I've ever seen.

Shadaloo
11-14-2018, 12:43 PM
Question for anyone who's got 'em: How do the later remasters compare to the originals? Only remasters I have are up to Brighter Than...

Much as I love Pandemonium I always felt the mix was really muddy.

uroboros
11-15-2018, 01:43 PM
I found the remasters for download on mp3caprice.

Shadaloo
11-18-2018, 12:51 AM
Did anyone get that RSD remaster of Absolute Dissent this year? And if so, did it come with a download?

ziltoid
11-08-2019, 08:29 AM
Holy shit this brought tears to my eyes. This is so wonderful and amazing. A tasteful way to remember and honor Raven.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTX7X5GzGsw

I can't find any physical pre-orders for Magna Invocatio all I can find are digital:

https://jazcolemankillingjoke.lnk.to/MagnaInvocatio

https://www.normanrecords.com/records/179268-jaz-coleman-magna-invocatio-a-gnostic-mass

https://www.target.com/p/jaz-coleman-magna-invocatio-a-gnostic-mass-cd/-/A-78652979

imail724
11-08-2019, 09:16 AM
Relieved to see Pylon near the bottom of everyone's lists. I've just been really getting into Killing Joke lately and Pylon was the first album of their's that really didn't click with me. I haven't listened to them all yet, but so far I'm feeling their mid-late 80's albums the most. Need to continue listening to the rest.

Shadaloo
11-27-2019, 11:58 AM
Just gonna drop this here. Been on a kick lately.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI75AEXoaW0

Unrelated: Walking With Gods is my jam.

fillow
11-27-2019, 01:38 PM
Unrelated: Walking With Gods is my jam.

Here's an unpopular opinion: Hosannas is their best album

Jord
11-27-2019, 04:43 PM
Here's an unpopular opinion: Hosannas is their best album

It's up there in my top 3 I'll give you that. So is their second self titled.
@Shadaloo (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=685) thanks for posting that live gig, what a hell of an hour I had enjoying that today.

For a band who I thought were not going to come back following Raven's sad passing, they ended up reforming and over ten years later really haven't let up ever since, which is impressive in any band that's been around as long as KJ have. Long may it continue!

caca
11-27-2019, 08:36 PM
Here's an unpopular opinion: Hosannas is their best album

It's probably in my top 3, along with the two self-titled albums.

Shadaloo
12-03-2019, 06:55 PM
The 2003 self-titled apparently came out on vinyl this year for the first time. I need to go check my local record shop.

Looking over their recent pledgemusic history, there was an LP set which was planned but fell through. It would be nice if we were starting to the the results of those initial plans as I really don't have the funds to pay $200 apiece for basically half of their discography.

imail724
10-13-2020, 03:44 PM
https://store.spinefarmrecords.com/Killing-Joke/?utm_campaign=KillingJokePylon%28Deluxe%2920201001&utm_content=&utm_medium=genericlink&utm_source=OriginalLink&utm_umguk=www.facebook.com%2F&utm_campaign=KillingJokePylon%28Deluxe%2920201001&utm_content=&utm_medium=genericlink&utm_source=OriginalLink

Reissues of Pandemonium and the S/T debut up for preorder here. Has anyone found these for sale anywhere in the US?

Piko
10-13-2020, 04:44 PM
What's the deal with the remixes on Pandemonium? Kind of prefer they leave the songs be. Particularly Millennium.

Shadaloo
10-14-2020, 10:22 AM
Reissues of Pandemonium and the S/T debut up for preorder here.

Holy shit yes. Crossing fingers they do Democracy next.

imail724
02-12-2021, 12:37 PM
Jaz Coleman, Geordie Walker, and Peter Hook are putting out an EP next month made up of 3 tracks recorded in 1993. Preorders here (https://www.kd93.co.uk/?fbclid=IwAR3J2uq-QJtNthn45q8kJjXI-HcMAgoV7iDFs_WXrDbLKaMzNdSeeVUEU4U).

Shadaloo
02-25-2022, 11:32 PM
It's getting to be that time again:


https://youtu.be/SSVjEc5rIMc

Frozen Beach
02-26-2022, 04:51 PM
Been listening to Killing Joke for the last three months. One of the best bands I've ever listened to. I think my favorite album is Pandemonium.

AndItKeepsRepeating
02-26-2022, 09:14 PM
Been listening to Killing Joke for the last three months. One of the best bands I've ever listened to. I think my favorite album is Pandemonium.

One of the few bands who actually get HEAVIER and MORE interesting as their career progresses. Pandemonium was a BIG step in that direction for sure. Though I love a good bit of their earlier post-punk and new wave output too!

imail724
02-27-2022, 09:23 AM
All eras of KJ have been great. From the early post punk stuff, to the more new wave/synth poppy albums, to the later more industrial metal stuff, they really haven't put out a bad record. The two self titled albums are probably my favorites, and they're such totally different sounds from one another.

Shadaloo
03-05-2022, 10:32 AM
Forgot to menton, KJ 2003 and Pylon recently got reissues. Pylon benefited from it a ton, the mix feels less muddy and the drums have more punch. I hesitated before jumping on it as it felt like it only came out yesterday (2015! How?!). But it was worth it. The original version of Snakedance is a fun, groovy track.

Jury's out still for me on the 2003 rerelease. Maybe a bit more balance, less loud. Not sure.

Picked up the the 2020 Pandemonium reissue last month, same deal, less muddy. Only thing is the CD has "front cover" printed in the middle of the artwork and 'back cover" on the rear page of the booklet. At least it comes in a slipcase :p

Frozen Beach
04-01-2022, 11:18 PM
https://youtu.be/U04x3W2T38k
This performance might be the most intense performance I have ever seen from any band. Jaz looks like he's about to explode. It makes me actually want to start a band.

Frozen Beach
04-26-2022, 04:01 PM
So I'm looking around to find a mint copy of Fire Dances, and I've noticed there's quite a number of test pressings. Aren't test pressings generally rare? How are there so many and reasonably priced?

armogi
11-26-2023, 11:29 PM
fucking hell.

dlb
11-27-2023, 09:09 AM
That one hurts. Geordie's been one of my most favorite guitarists out there and eventhough I'm not following the band as much as I used to they released some kick ass tunes once in a while over recent years. :(

Jord
11-28-2023, 03:24 AM
Absolutely gutted at this news. A true original from one of my favourite bands who I've been lucky enough to see twice.

Especially sad as they were working on a new album I believe, and would have been back on tour next year.

RIP Geordie.

pulse
11-28-2023, 02:51 PM
Heartbreaking. RIP Geordie. You legend among the greats.

Deacon Blackfire
11-28-2023, 10:25 PM
Absolutely crushed by the loss of Geordie. One of my favorite guitarists of all time and a wholly unique ingredient to Killing Joke's sound over its forty year existence as a band. As with the band in general, he may not be a household name but he had a profound influence on those household names that cannot be understated. Was lucky enough to see the original lineup perform three times - the first time in 2008 when the then newly reunited original four played all of the self-titled debut and What's THIS For...! plus more at Irving Plaza in NYC, and the final time at an unbelievably tiny and intimate show at Saint Vitus in Brooklyn - and they rank among the best shows I've ever seen. Very little beyond NIN compares. And now those memories are even more treasured in my heart.

The bandmates and his family are in my thoughts. He leaves behind an incredible body of work, was active and kicking ass for decades (they released a great single just this year around the time of what is now sadly Geordie's last performance at Royal Albert Hall) and all the same was taken far too soon. Certainly an unprecedented time for Killing Joke. Jaz and Geordie have been the only constant members throughout its existence so I'm not even sure Killing Joke exists anymore, especially because he was so instrumental to the band's sonic quality. When I consider that the original lineup got back together when they were reunited by Paul Raven's death, I consider that maybe they will want to make something of this and move forward in some fashion. But whatever happens from here, Killing Joke will never be the same if it has a future at all.

Selfishly hoping that this year's single, Full Spectrum Dominance, was a tease of an album and that there is at least some finished material we haven't heard. When they were scheduled to play Sick New World last year I was hoping they'd book a few other US dates while they were stateside but then they dropped out. When they were scheduled to appear at next year's Sick New World I got up the same hope and I do believe they were gearing up to tour again but sadly it is not to be.

RIP Geordie. When it comes to your art you are irreplaceable. Thanks for all the music and memories. I'm gonna miss you.

Shadaloo
11-29-2023, 11:44 PM
Just found out. All I can say is FUCK. I'm sufficiently miserable that I'm angry, and I echo the above thoughts.

Their show here in 2013 or so was one of the greatest by any band I've ever attended. I only knew a select few songs at that time, and I was instantly converted overnight. They absolutely pummeled me to oblivion.

This is a tremendous loss, and I can't fucking compute it.

Shadaloo
11-29-2023, 11:55 PM
Drug was my first one, off the More Kombat soundtrack. Still one of my favorites.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_dYEwUWHDc

use you up
12-03-2023, 06:16 PM
Sanity(The Insane Mix)no one will ever play guitar like that again,RIP Geordie.