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accelestar
05-28-2013, 03:45 PM
http://pitchfork.com/news/49730-nine-inch-nails-new-album-finished-out-this-year-on-columbia-records/

Signed to Columbia, and it's "frankly fucking great."

http://www.columbiarecords.com as of 1:53 pm (pst) on may 28 confirms it.

frothy_ham
05-28-2013, 03:49 PM
I'm having trouble finding this news from any other source than Pitchfork. Any other confirmations/links?

Edit: Okay, it's true. It was just odd that Pitchfork was the only place reporting it, and with it being such terrific news I wanted to make sure 10000000% before I let myself get too excited.

october_midnight
05-28-2013, 03:51 PM
Was wondering how long it'd take for a new thread. Batten down the hatches! New album = Server overload time. (until the album drops and they all go away again, that is...)

thefragile_jake
05-28-2013, 03:51 PM
Holy crap! I was just getting off work from my new job today and I guess I was driving home when the news broke. This is awesome!!

accelestar
05-28-2013, 03:52 PM
I'm having trouble finding this news from any other source than Pitchfork. Any other confirmations/links?
look at http://www.columbiarecords.com

They seem to confirm it too.

skullboy0
05-28-2013, 03:55 PM
look at http://www.columbiarecords.com

They seem to confirm it too.

Kind of odd that the "More Information Here" link on there leads to nin.com which doesn't have any more information yet.

Edit: Not odd in a suspicious way, just odd that they hadn't updated nin.com yet. My guess is somebody got their timing wrong, & things should be official "soon"

Callahan
05-28-2013, 03:55 PM
I hope there's some legitimacy to this! my hunch is that the wave of festival touring will be to raise money for the real tour that he wants us to see. With the work that he's been spending on HTDA over the past year or so, he's probably been inspired from the whole presentation aspect. Really looking forward to seeing how this turns out...and there goes any financial plans I had in 2014 :(

butter_hole
05-28-2013, 04:00 PM
Ah guys, you can probably believe Pitchfork. You think they'd make this up?

opal
05-28-2013, 04:04 PM
Somehow, I'm not too surprised. I kinda saw that one coming.

But still, how great/weird is this ... There actually IS a new NIN album existing now. Wonder what it sounds like.

fortheloveofgod
05-28-2013, 04:08 PM
Ninternet explodes!!!!! Can't wait..... I knew it.

october_midnight
05-28-2013, 04:08 PM
Confirmed via the official Twitter.

Shadaloo
05-28-2013, 04:08 PM
Aaand bricks were shat. Funny actually, today was the first I've loaded NIN onto my mp3 player in a few months. Fitting.

skullboy0
05-28-2013, 04:10 PM
Billboard posted right after the NIN twitter:

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/1565000/nine-inch-nails-signs-to-columbia-will-release-new-album-in-2013?utm_source=twitter

somewhat_
05-28-2013, 04:14 PM
Yep, pretty sure pitchfork didn't make it up and have Columbia stick a big NIN label on their website. Have the doubters finally learned to pick up on TR's hints yet? They said there would be no tour even though TR made it all but certain during the reddit session. He hinted that he was recording more material than just a couple greatest hits tracks too (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/trent-reznor-nine-inch-nails-working-on-new-music-possible-tour-20121107); did you really think there wouldn't be any new music to tour with when he has had over a year to work on it (Welcome Oblivion was basically completed in Feb. 2012)?

october_midnight
05-28-2013, 04:16 PM
did you really think Adrian Belew was just helping out with a track or two? And there wouldn't be any new music to tour with when he has had over a year to work on it (Welcome Oblivion was basically completed in Feb. 2012)?

There are probably a lot of people who thought this since...you know, nobody knew about the album until today.

accelestar
05-28-2013, 04:18 PM
There are probably a lot of people who thought this since...you know, nobody knew about the album until today.
I just assumed they were working on maybe 2 songs that would go on the greatest hits album that he owes to Interscope. Never expected a new album this year.

Krazy
05-28-2013, 04:18 PM
Thumbs up to the surprise element of this. As good as Trent can be to his fans it's a cool change of pace to not know exactly what he's doing all the time musically.

So maybe June 6th it is for a single, and tour dates.

Conan The Barbarian
05-28-2013, 04:19 PM
Yes!!!! Fuck Yea I'm excited. Hopefully its not too far down the road.

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thefragile_jake
05-28-2013, 04:19 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/b28416bb5c4a367617cf7b54a424dac1/tumblr_inline_mn1enc7Om41qz4rgp.gif

This news makes me wanna soar.....

carpenoctem
05-28-2013, 04:21 PM
I'm gonna be honest with you guys, I nearly started crying when I saw this. My year = made.

BrokenSpiral
05-28-2013, 04:21 PM
YES!! First Queens now NIN.

somewhat_
05-28-2013, 04:22 PM
I guess I shouldn't have sounded so harsh. He did outright lie in an interview recently and state that there was no new material for the tour. There were other hints that something was coming though (working with his hero; kronos quartet tweet about working on new NIN) and I don't think people should be too surprised. It's just that some people around here thought it was the most ridiculous thing ever to think that a new EP or LP could be coming.

thefragile_jake
05-28-2013, 04:23 PM
Seriously, this year has been crazy for music. New albums from Daft Punk, My Bloody Valentine, Boards of Canada, Kanye West, Sigur Ros.....and now Nine Inch Nails! On top of the fact I'm finally going to see Bjork, Neutral Milk Hotel and Death Grips live. 2013 is incredible!

Reznor2112
05-28-2013, 04:23 PM
Oh my fuck!

mostlymad
05-28-2013, 04:25 PM
Pretty damned good year in music, I must say. I'm excited.

miss k bee
05-28-2013, 04:30 PM
Time to reinforce my bank account!.

dlb
05-28-2013, 04:31 PM
Fuck yes! I'm psyched as hell!

What I'm most curious about at this point is the artwork. nin.com looks classy, but totally stripped down so I'm looking forward to Rob revealing the artwork step by step on a new page (probably why the official forum is getting a revamp).

O Trent you sneaky ol' bastard!

Fangster_
05-28-2013, 04:31 PM
I'm gonna be honest with you guys, I nearly started crying when I saw this. My year = made.

Pretty much this. I have those teenage love tummy butterflies.

MAD
05-28-2013, 04:33 PM
IT HAS BEGUN!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrQ2pKMwQC4

manik instandin
05-28-2013, 04:33 PM
I am sooooo ready for this. :D

BipolarMike
05-28-2013, 04:37 PM
It's an album of dubstep remixes. [WITH_WUBS], The Dropped Spiral, Da Fragile, Pretty Bass Machine, Broken Subwoofer, Year Wub, The Sli-WUB WUB WUB BZZZZZ WUB SCREEEEE

Malechite
05-28-2013, 04:37 PM
The Slip part 2!

thefragile_jake
05-28-2013, 04:38 PM
The Fragile part 2!?! :eek:

somewhat_
05-28-2013, 04:45 PM
No part 2's please! It will be interesting to see what avenue this album takes musically and conceptually. I am expecting more guitars than year zero and welcome oblivion (yeah I know that isn't NIN) since Adrian Belew was involved. I wouldn't be surprised if Josh Eustis and Alessandro were involved either so that should bring some interesting electronic elements to the table.

cabezas
05-28-2013, 04:50 PM
Strobe light

reseen_lamenti
05-28-2013, 04:50 PM
Purest Feeling, Part 2: Electric Saxaphone Boogaloo

keysersoze
05-28-2013, 04:51 PM
New album is finished (according to NIN facebook page)

noneofthem
05-28-2013, 04:51 PM
I honestly hope that this album will sound different to what Trent has been up to in recent years. Many things sounded far too familiar and I hope that this will album will give us some true new music and not just stuff that sounds similar to what we already listened to a while ago. Apart from that I am freaking excited to get more details. This is the best news of 2013 for me so far.

Twiggy
05-28-2013, 04:53 PM
This is amazing!!!

Now where to see them in Europe this yr. I wonder if they will announce some Brixton gigs.

I'm absolutely loving the new Queens album and now this. Awesome...

Deepvoid
05-28-2013, 04:56 PM
Best news of the year! The whole "no new material" was so strange. Now it all makes sense

halo33
05-28-2013, 04:59 PM
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines.

otnavuskire
05-28-2013, 04:59 PM
I already miss the self release format. If the album's finished, Trent would probably be releasing it tomorrow!

tremolo
05-28-2013, 05:04 PM
AMAZING NEWS!

Very stoked about this! Hope we get more details "soon."

Lookig forwrard to the hints/teasing.

somewhat_
05-28-2013, 05:06 PM
I wonder if this will be out before touring starts? If the June 6 date holds up for the single, I wouldn't be surprised if the album comes out in July. It would be interesting to hear new tracks live before the recorded material though.

bgalbraith
05-28-2013, 05:10 PM
Ghosts V-VIII!

arsenic
05-28-2013, 05:13 PM
Funny tweets between rob and mariqueen going on right now:



MARIQUEEN MAANDIG ‏@mariqueen (https://twitter.com/mariqueen)12m (https://twitter.com/mariqueen/status/339501089873338369)
the new @nineinchnails (https://twitter.com/nineinchnails) album is going to make everyone so happy, it's incredible.




https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/3628319046/bd9abe9df1fc61e5b6213d0e38af12b1_normal.jpegRob Sheridan ‏@rob_sheridan (https://twitter.com/rob_sheridan)4m (https://twitter.com/rob_sheridan/status/339503238720139265)
@mariqueen (https://twitter.com/mariqueen) What's your favorite song? Mine is the one with the PSY rap break. So daring, so "now."




https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/2843465152/c2d165ca1c3e43970e31efb4f1b5fc72_normal.pngMARIQUE EN MAANDIG ‏@mariqueen (https://twitter.com/mariqueen)3m (https://twitter.com/mariqueen/status/339503466739269632)
@rob_sheridan (https://twitter.com/rob_sheridan) i like the one with the dub step break down with my featured vocals OBVI.




https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/3628319046/bd9abe9df1fc61e5b6213d0e38af12b1_normal.jpegRob Sheridan ‏@rob_sheridan (https://twitter.com/rob_sheridan)44s (https://twitter.com/rob_sheridan/status/339504124313890816)
@mariqueen (https://twitter.com/mariqueen) Trent's wubs are sick. Sick, sick wubs. And I dig that autotune thing you did.

Dingerz
05-28-2013, 05:15 PM
Depeche Mode signed to Columbia too. Now all I need is DM and NIN on the next LittleBigPlanet. ;P

ryanmcfly
05-28-2013, 06:52 PM
holy shit.

edit: So new song next week?

gorast
05-28-2013, 07:09 PM
Ah, yeah, that new song rumor sounds a hell of a lot more credible now. Rev up the promotional machine, the 5-year wait is over.

Ghostofme
05-28-2013, 07:20 PM
So, New NIN.. Deluxe Reissue NIN.. and Greatest Hits NIN.. All in the same year?? Thoughts?

DigitalChaos
05-28-2013, 07:21 PM
Funny tweets between rob and mariqueen going on right now:



MARIQUEEN MAANDIG ‏@mariqueen (https://twitter.com/mariqueen)12m (https://twitter.com/mariqueen/status/339501089873338369)
the new @nineinchnails (https://twitter.com/nineinchnails) album is going to make everyone so happy, it's incredible.




https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/3628319046/bd9abe9df1fc61e5b6213d0e38af12b1_normal.jpegRob Sheridan ‏@rob_sheridan (https://twitter.com/rob_sheridan)4m (https://twitter.com/rob_sheridan/status/339503238720139265)
@mariqueen (https://twitter.com/mariqueen) What's your favorite song? Mine is the one with the PSY rap break. So daring, so "now."




https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/2843465152/c2d165ca1c3e43970e31efb4f1b5fc72_normal.pngMARIQUE EN MAANDIG ‏@mariqueen (https://twitter.com/mariqueen)3m (https://twitter.com/mariqueen/status/339503466739269632)
@rob_sheridan (https://twitter.com/rob_sheridan) i like the one with the dub step break down with my featured vocals OBVI.




https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/3628319046/bd9abe9df1fc61e5b6213d0e38af12b1_normal.jpegRob Sheridan ‏@rob_sheridan (https://twitter.com/rob_sheridan)44s (https://twitter.com/rob_sheridan/status/339504124313890816)
@mariqueen (https://twitter.com/mariqueen) Trent's wubs are sick. Sick, sick wubs. And I dig that autotune thing you did.



They are surprising reserved for the amount of power they poses. I could not restrain myself to such minimal trolling if I were in their shoes.

WorzelG
05-28-2013, 07:25 PM
What's this stuff about Adrian Belew not being in the band? It was tweeted that he was by the official NIN Twitter account?

skullboy0
05-28-2013, 07:28 PM
What's this stuff about Adrian Belew not being in the band? It was tweeted that he was by the official NIN Twitter account?

So far just Pitchfork (http://pitchfork.com/news/49730-nine-inch-nails-new-album-finished-out-this-year-on-columbia-records/) and Rolling Stone (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/nine-inch-nails-announce-new-album-20130528), nothing official from the band.

Edit: I guess not being listed in the band on the official Facebook page is pretty official.

somethingelse
05-28-2013, 07:29 PM
If I'm remembering correctly, TR had Kronos Quartet in a studio at some point? I think this album will be like the rest of his work - different and unique. Looking forward to it!

ryanmcfly
05-28-2013, 07:30 PM
Adrian Belew is not listed as a member of the band on their facebook.

Ghostofme
05-28-2013, 07:35 PM
What's this stuff about Adrian Belew not being in the band? It was tweeted that he was by the official NIN Twitter account?

Yeah... weird. He's blogged about it and has been updating his Facebook with rehearsal space photos and his tuning for the tour..packed up and moved out to LA for rehearsals, etc..

jaypayton
05-28-2013, 07:36 PM
regarding the new album, I hope its very electronic, miles away from post 2005 stuff............as far as Adrian...is he already out of the band? Maybe that's why Robin rejoined.....

PhoenixML
05-28-2013, 07:37 PM
I already miss the self release format. If the album's finished, Trent would probably be releasing it tomorrow!

That's soooo 2008.....

If the digital version is ready now, we want it NAAAOOOOWWWWW!!! The physical version can come out in 3 months it wouldn't matter.

It's obviously Columbia's fault.

jessamineny
05-28-2013, 07:39 PM
I thought he asked Kronos to come work on the album, but they were overseas at the time and couldn't. I didn't remember anything further.

And I will be so sad if Belew isn't along for the tour. I was really looking forward to seeing him.

Krazy
05-28-2013, 07:39 PM
I'm starting to believe these Belew rumors. Josh Eustis on bass then? Belew wasn't in those pics with Robin. Trent's really fucking with our heads now.

ancientlasers
05-28-2013, 07:40 PM
Sources say new song out June 6th, and that it sounds like The Fragile mixed with the last 2 albums. My friend heard it, so its out there somewhere.

DigitalChaos
05-28-2013, 07:40 PM
Adrian Belew is not listed as a member of the band on their facebook.

Yeah... weird. He's blogged about it and has been updating his Facebook with rehearsal space photos and his tuning for the tour..packed up and moved out to LA for rehearsals, etc..

regarding the new album, I hope its very electronic, miles away from post 2005 stuff............as far as Adrian...is he already out of the band? Maybe that's why Robin rejoined.....


They separated due to creative differences. Adrian Belew wanted the new NIN album to be titled "NIN feat Adrian Belew" and Trent didn't like that. So, Belew pulled out of touring since he didn't want to support the incorrectly attributed new material.

Leviathant
05-28-2013, 07:41 PM
Jesus Christ, really? I told ya man, whenever someone leaks that they're in NIN's live band before the official announcement, one way or another, they end up not being in the live lineup.

butter_hole
05-28-2013, 07:44 PM
Maybe him saying he was in the band was a ploy when he was really out there recording? (though he did explicitly say he was touring and had discussed touring in depth..)

Or maybe he jumped ship too? When Finck came back in, Eustis moved to bass full time and Finck is lead guitars?

Ghostofme
05-28-2013, 07:45 PM
There's also this... http://www.adrianbelew.net/tour/

thevoid99
05-28-2013, 08:10 PM
I'm glad a new NIN record is out although I'm skeptical about Trent going back to a major label unless he made an arrangement with Columbia Records that will help him.

butter_hole
05-28-2013, 08:15 PM
I'm glad a new NIN record is out although I'm skeptical about Trent going back to a major label unless he made an arrangement with Columbia Records that will help him.
Seemed to work pretty well for HTDA

gorny540
05-28-2013, 08:19 PM
Would've been cool to see Belew live, but I'm kind of happy he isn't touring now. It would've been awkward to have both him and Robin on stage, it would've looked too much like when Robin was in GnR and there were multiple lead guitarists.

gorast
05-28-2013, 08:19 PM
The arrangement NIN has is probably just as flexible and open as the one HTDA has, so there's most likely nothing to worry about there. Trent wouldn't sign away his music again like that just for more exposure.

It's weird that Adrian isn't listed in all those places; hopefully there's some clarification soon. A bunch of old members + Josh Eustis doesn't exactly scream 'reinvention.'

richardp
05-28-2013, 08:30 PM
It's weird that Adrian isn't listed in all those places; hopefully there's some clarification soon. A bunch of old members + Josh Eustis doesn't exactly scream 'reinvention.'

Yeah that's a super good point. With only one new member, I feel like the live shows might end up sounding the same way they did 4 years ago. Which isn't a bad thing, and I'm not complaining, but I was kind of excited to hear songs played in a completely new perspective. Either way, there's a new NIN tour and album way earlier than I ever thought there'd be, so whatevs.

somethingelse
05-28-2013, 08:35 PM
I think worries of NIN sounding the same are completely baseless.
Look at the track record. With this line up they could make it sound like anything they want.
And new songs bro, new songs.

barkhammer
05-28-2013, 08:36 PM
Not surprised that Belew isn't touring - don't you think it would have been a little weird with him noodling away up there with Finck et al all thrashing around with their eyeliner etc on?Relieved to hear he's all over the album though.

xfocalinx
05-28-2013, 08:38 PM
Where are you people getting this June 6th information from??

ryanmcfly
05-28-2013, 08:41 PM
Where are you people getting this June 6th information from??

Here: http://www.antiquiet.com/news/2013/05/new-nine-inch-nails-song-arriving-june-6/

trollmanen
05-28-2013, 08:42 PM
They separated due to creative differences. Adrian Belew wanted the new NIN album to be titled "NIN feat Adrian Belew" and Trent didn't like that. So, Belew pulled out of touring since he didn't want to support the incorrectly attributed new material.

Just wondering, where's the source on this info?

Krazy
05-28-2013, 08:42 PM
Where are you people getting this June 6th information from??

It's in the NIN-spotting thread, a tweet or something leaked and was taken down from a DJ or someone in the know.

Doing this from a phone so kinda a PITA for me to try finding it but its there.

Reznor2112
05-28-2013, 08:46 PM
Where is everyone getting that Belew is out of the the touring band???

xfocalinx
05-28-2013, 08:46 PM
Here: http://www.antiquiet.com/news/2013/05/new-nine-inch-nails-song-arriving-june-6/

ah, thank you!

ryanmcfly
05-28-2013, 08:47 PM
Where is everyone getting that Belew is out of the the touring band???

http://pitchfork.com/news/49730-nine-inch-nails-new-album-finished-out-this-year-on-columbia-records/

He's also not listed on their Facebook anymore.

tremolo
05-28-2013, 08:48 PM
Just wondering, where's the source on this info?

X2

People, if you have info, post the source where you got it in the first place, otherwise it's just rumours that lead to speculation, anxiety, stress and lots of tears.

I really hope Adrian is touring with NIN.

Edit: just read the link from Pitchfork... I guess i got confused, i thoughthe was going to tour with NIN... Bummer!


Anyway, looking forward to the album and tour!

Reznor2112
05-28-2013, 08:48 PM
http://pitchfork.com/news/49730-nine-inch-nails-new-album-finished-out-this-year-on-columbia-records/

He's also not listed on their Facebook anymore.

Damn...wonder why Trent had him listed under the touring band back in Feb?

ryanmcfly
05-28-2013, 08:51 PM
Damn...wonder why Trent had him listed under the touring band back in Feb?

I think he was never going to be a part of the touring lineup. He was probably there just to contribute on the new album. Plus the first sentence of his post today said "I've been less than honest about what I have been up to lately." Maybe I'm just nitpicking that last one.

otnavuskire
05-28-2013, 08:53 PM
Belew flat out said he was going to be touring with them, and that he was in L.A. rehearsing with them for the tour. So if it was never true, he was adding to the lie as well.

Frozen Beach
05-28-2013, 08:54 PM
Happy about the album announcement, but I'm disappointed about the lack of Adrian Belew on tour with the band. I thought it'd be amazing to see him onstage with the rest of the gang.

allegro
05-28-2013, 08:58 PM
The last several months have been loaded with bullshit.

DigitalChaos
05-28-2013, 09:01 PM
Just wondering, where's the source on this info?
Adrian Belew posted it on facebook but has now deleted the post




I was just fucking around. I have no idea what's going on, just adding to the horrible drama and baseless speculation. I thought my statement was ridiculous enough to convey that :)

spiralout
05-28-2013, 09:02 PM
New NIN album = YES!

No Adrian Belew = NO!

I was really excited to see what Belew would bring to the live show, he was posting on facebook a few weeks ago about the different types of tuning he was going to be using and what not. I can only imagine what kind of sounds and textures he was going to add to the songs. I think he really would've brought a different feel to NIN live. Now it just kind of seems like a past lineup. Still excited though....NEW ALBUM! Just a little bummed about the whole Belew situation. I will keep my hopes up until it's officially announced though.

Ghostofme
05-28-2013, 09:03 PM
I really think this is going to amount to some crossed wires on Pitchfork's part.. He's listed just about everywhere, moved out there, has been posting photos and touring tuning on his Facebook, NIN tweeted the line-up including him and Robin right after Robin rejoined(So, He's not being replaced by Robin)..that was about 10 days ago.. Belew's own website confirms it. I've yet to see anything pointing to this outside of the Pitchfork article. Crossed wires.. or my name isn't Ronald Jeremy.

skullboy0
05-28-2013, 09:05 PM
Belew flat out said he was going to be touring with them, and that he was in L.A. rehearsing with them for the tour. So if it was never true, he was adding to the lie as well.

As sneaky as Trent has been about NIN this year, I kinda doubt Belew being the only full-time guitarist in the originally announced lineup was just a cover for him to go out & record. I don't think Belew would leak in an interview that he was touring with NIN soon & post pictures of pedals he's trying out after he was announced for the tour as part of some elaborate fake-out.

The album was probably mostly finished before tour rehearsals started

gorast
05-28-2013, 09:07 PM
And new songs bro, new songs.
There is this, too. Regardless of who's in or out, there's practically a guarantee of new material.

I really do hope this album sounds as different as Trent implied it would be - he listed the two usual suspects (Atticus and Alan Moulder) as his collaborators, which worries me a little. No one else has mentioned that yet, so I figured I should so all the yelling gets directed at me.

otnavuskire
05-28-2013, 09:08 PM
I really think this is going to amount to some crossed wires on Pitchfork's part.. He's listed just about everywhere, moved out there, has been posting photos and touring tuning on his Facebook, NIN tweeted the line-up including him and Robin right after Robin rejoined(So, He's not being replaced by Robin)..that was about 10 days ago.. Belew's own website confirms it. I've yet to see anything pointing to this outside of the Pitchfork article. Crossed wires.. or my name isn't Ronald Jeremy.

The fact that he's no longer listed on NIN's facebook page lends some credence to it.

sick among the pure
05-28-2013, 09:09 PM
The last several months have been loaded with bullshit.

You know what that means...

ARG!
j/k

Ruined
05-28-2013, 09:10 PM
Wow, really happy to hear there's a new NIN album out this year. I thought there were only going to be two new songs, tacked-on to a greatest hits collection. Never thought an album was being produced; very cool! So, the announcement regarding possible new music, June 6th, doesn't seem as far-fetched as it did, earlier. I hope I get the chance to attend one of this year's NIN shows. Also, given that shows are scheduled this summer; it'll be great tracking what new songs are played.

DigitalChaos
05-28-2013, 09:13 PM
The fact that he's no longer listed on NIN's facebook page lends some credence to it.
This.
It also makes much more sense about Robin rejoining. I'm betting this all unfolded around the same time Robin rejoined. I bet Trent was hoping to change Belew's mind or something and didn't announce it.

hippygeek
05-28-2013, 09:14 PM
The last several months have been loaded with bullshit. Come on. Not just the last few months. As far back as I can remember. Never believe anything from TR until it happens. You should know that by now... The biggest question is, though, "Does Robin have to piss in his own shoes on the way in?"

allegro
05-28-2013, 09:25 PM
Come on. Not just the last few months. As far back as I can remember. Never believe anything from TR until it happens. You should know that by now... The biggest question is, though, "Does Robin have to piss in his own shoes on the way in?"
All mercenaries piss in their own shoes.

But, remember, no new material, except one song for a greatest hits album.

FernandoDante
05-28-2013, 09:30 PM
So yeah, June 6th it is.

Also, remember how Josh Homme mentioned he wanted Trent to produce the new QOTSA album, but he was busy with "the new Nine Inch Nails record"? And people just thought "oh he probably meant the compilation album, silly Homme". Yeah.

EDIT: also



They separated due to creative differences. Adrian Belew wanted the new NIN album to be titled "NIN feat Adrian Belew" and Trent didn't like that. So, Belew pulled out of touring since he didn't want to support the incorrectly attributed new material.

This sounds almost too well-constructed to be a joke. I mean, he played on a lot of Ghosts, and he gave this interview where he seemed really fucking grateful for getting songwriting credits, something most other musicians didn't grant him.

Highly Psychological
05-28-2013, 10:03 PM
Im interested to know what the music itself will sound like on this new album. Im guessing its going to be a lot more experimental and cinematic, everything he did from With Teeth to The Slip wether it be electronica with Year Zero or rock band approach on With Teeth seemed like a retaliation against what he was doing in the 1990s, it was all stripped down, less elaborate and seemed bashed out and recorded quite quickly.
With Adrian Belew being involved in recording and Kronos Quartet rumoured im expecting something like a slightly more accessible Godspeed You Black Emperor.

jaypayton
05-28-2013, 10:10 PM
I never could have pictured Belew onstage playing songs like "Gave Up" or "Wish" or "March Of The Pigs"...No offense to Belew, the dude is a guitar wizard, but it would have looked weird with a 65 year old guy onstage thrashing through these songs.... Robin is built for playing these songs live...

Ghostofme
05-28-2013, 10:26 PM
The link on the NIN tumblr announcement now points to a factmag.com article rather than Pitchfork's article.. same info. No mention of Belew not touring.

jessamineny
05-28-2013, 10:30 PM
He unlinked Pitchfork on nin.com after the somewhat unfavorable review of the HTDA album, though. He could just still be sore about that.

Or they're not ready to make an announcement, and don't want to link to an article that points out Belew's absence. Don't read too much into it.

Krazy
05-28-2013, 10:46 PM
Very fun, yet confusing times.

Reminds me of the '90s.

m0reta
05-28-2013, 10:47 PM
All I know is...my body is ready for new NIN.

(And by my body being ready I refer to new music to play during my futile attempts at jogging.)

FernandoDante
05-28-2013, 10:49 PM
I think the idea of Trent refusing to link Pitchfork is an entertaining one.

ManBurning
05-28-2013, 11:29 PM
I'm excited about a new album as much as anyone, this is amazing news.

But part of me wishes they waited until AFTER the tour had already started to drop the news, anyone with me on this one?
I would have loved to have been there at Lollapalooza and all of a sudden out of nowhere a brand new song that I have never heard came on. I would have been like
"What the fuck is this!! OMG New NIN being debuted live for the very first time ever!!!"

That would have been very exciting, and then say the album drops in october/november and then you listen to it and you hear those songs that are vaguely familuar and they bring you back to that special time you heard them played live for the first time unexpectly?

For this reason alone, I **ALMOST** want to boycott the new album if it gets released before the 2013 summer shows start (I'm attending Lollapalooza which is the 3rd gig on the tour). I would love to experience the new songs live and never before heard.

However, I think I know why he dropped this news now... Something tells me the new song hitting the radio stations on June 6th info was true, and Trent wanted to be the one to break the news about the album himself and not some random Radio Dj "Hey everyone that was the new song from Nine Inch Nails, from their new album (enter name here) dropping on July 23rd on Columbia Records"

Everyone would have been like "WTF is this guy talking about? A new album? How credible is this information!?"

BenAkenobi
05-28-2013, 11:45 PM
Man, I still haven't fully digested the greatness that is THE SLIP.

<other first thoughts censored>

ManBurning
05-28-2013, 11:59 PM
Man, I still haven't fully digested the greatness that is THE SLIP.



I'm not sure if this is sarcasm or not, as I know alot of people on this board, and in the NIN community don't take too well to "THE SLIP", but personally, it's been my favourite NIN release since "THE FRAGILE".

I originally liked [With_Teeth] when it was released, but find it hard to listen to now. I downright HATED Year Zero, except for a few tracks on that album that have grown on me, but the album as a whole never left a mark. Ghosts was a neat little experimental album that brought something new to the table, but you can only listen to 36 tracks with weird instrumental noises for so long until they start to get boring. Sometimes you just want some lyrics to sing along too.

And for some reason, I find the lyrics "I jump from every rooftop...I feel a million miles away..." from 1,000,000 to be oddly catchy. i'm not sure what it is, as I know that song isn't meant to be catchy, but it is. It's very, very catchy. And that chorus from Head Down gets me every time...

"And this is not my face
And this is not my life
And there is not a single thing here
I can recognize
This is all a dream
And none of you are real
I'll give anything
I'll give anything"

jamesd553
05-29-2013, 12:05 AM
Any bets as to 28,29,30? He sometimes releases singles before the new album.

jaypayton
05-29-2013, 12:25 AM
The Slip was a rush job to promote the tour and Robin rejoining the band. I alsmot look at that as an EP and not a true NIN album....I actually have high hopes for this album...His soundtrack work has been really dark and electronic././..if the new NIN is in that vein, it will be the best post Fragile work easily...fuck all this rock guitar With Teeth nonsense..time to go back to electronics

BenAkenobi
05-29-2013, 12:27 AM
28-first single on vinyl with remix by Sonoio
29-album
29LE-album on vinyl with a handful extra tracks, bluray and photobook
30-second single with non-album track and more remixes (including those from first single making that one redundant)
31-live album/dvd/bluray of 2013 shows with extras from 2009 shows

jamesd553
05-29-2013, 12:33 AM
28-first single on vinyl with remix by Sonoio
29-album
29LE-album on vinyl with a handful extra tracks, bluray and photobook
30-second single with non-album track and more remixes (including those from first single making that one redundant)
31-live album/dvd/bluray of 2013 shows with extras from 2009 shows



<-- Sounds legit. ;)

gorast
05-29-2013, 12:45 AM
I don't think he'll go the route of physical singles anymore, even with Columbia attempting to breathe down his neck. The Slip didn't have any physical singles, and HTDA hasn't had any ever (KIT doesn't count). 28 will be the new album.

DigitalChaos
05-29-2013, 01:00 AM
They separated due to creative differences. Adrian Belew wanted the new NIN album to be titled "NIN feat Adrian Belew" and Trent didn't like that. So, Belew pulled out of touring since he didn't want to support the incorrectly attributed new material.

This sounds almost too well-constructed to be a joke. I mean, he played on a lot of Ghosts, and he gave this interview where he seemed really fucking grateful for getting songwriting credits, something most other musicians didn't grant him.
Dude, i swear! Even worse, I wrote that thinking everyone was talking about Avery no longer being in the band. I was all "Oh man, flood of inactive members rushing here after the new album news who aren't up on the latest news... easy trolling" and Leviathant can confirm this. He was the one who was like "no dude.. ADRIAN BELEW not Eric Avery" Truth is... I am just retarded.

DigitalChaos
05-29-2013, 01:05 AM
I think the idea of Trent refusing to link Pitchfork is an entertaining one.
I'm wondering if pitchfork got a lead that they weren't supposed to. I wonder if this news was supposed to come out another way.

ManBurning
05-29-2013, 01:15 AM
it will be the best post Fragile work easily...fuck all this rock guitar With Teeth nonsense..time to go back to electronics

I 100% agree with you on this statement, I used to think that [With_Teeth] was an amazing album back in 2005, but realistically, all it was was the "God, it's been 5 years since you released an album, and went through rehab, I didn't think we would ever get new music from you ever again" part of me just being excited again that nails was back in the fold. However, as time went on, I can safely say he played his cards very safe by releasing that album. It was a very straightforward rock 'n roll album, it wasn't very experimental, it never brought in anything new to the NIN formula, in fact, it took a step back, jammed out with guitars and drums, no risks, it was a safe album to see if he was still realavent in today's music scene. After he got it out there and realized "OK. my fanbase is still there, I can do this, I played some gigs, I feel warmed up, time to get back into the whole experimental phase that NIN is known for" and then Year Zero came out.

It was new and fresh unlike anything else NIN had done, it was a full blown electronic album. The sound of [With_Teeth] was non-existant on this release what-so-ever. It was Trent Reznor with his creative juices flowing to the max once again.

HOWEVER...


The Slip was a rush job to promote the tour and Robin rejoining the band.

Can you explain how the current situation is different than your above statement?
So, The Slip was a last minute decision that was THROWN together to promote the 2008 tour and Robin coming back...
How is that any different than the situation we current find ourself in now? Hmm... There is a HUGE tour about to start and Robin all of a sudden appeared out of nowhere? Hmm... Seems like history is repeating itself here... maybe, just maybe this album was thrown together in the last 12 hours as well to promote these 2 things, what a co-incidence!

Get with it, man!

If the SLIP was rushed out to promote the 2008 tour, then yes, this new album is gonna be amazing by that standard, because I feel that the Slip is right up there with PHM, TDS and TF, it's the best of the post-fragile albums hands down! I'm sure this new one will take the cake though, as The Slip is more like a "Broken EP" rather than an official full blown release. But, sometimes quantity does not always equal quality (GHOST I-IV I'm looking at you).

For the most part (asside from 999,999 and Corona Radiata) there are 8 other amazing tracks on that album. Demon Seed is probably one of the most interesting songs he has done since The Fragile days (Asside from Sunspots... I can never get enough of Sunspots). With Lights In The Sky being my favourite "slow" NIN song of all the slow NIN songs.

There is nothing out there in Trent's catalog that he would DARE rush out to promote something, this guy is an absolute perfectionist. if something isn't up to his standards, he will not let it see the light of Day. If TR doesn't think something is quality himself, he will not subject his fans to a sub-par release just for the sake of "promoting a tour". The Tour was going to happen in 2008 regardless on whether the Slip came out or not, he wasn't thinking "oh shit, since I announced a new tour I better Jimmy up some half-assed songs to go along with it, otherwise nobody will want to come". I'm sure he had it all planned out from 2008 tour announcement, he probably had some ideas already worked out from being on the road. Who's to say Demon Seed wasn't made BEFORE Ghosts 38? (the unreleased Ghosts track that just so happened to have the same music in it?) Maybe the rest of "The Slip" songs came from early workings of Ghosts material that was fleshed out and not used, i'm willing to bet that none of those songs were thrown together at the last minute to promote the tour, they were probably very early versions of scrapped Ghosts songs that never made the cut, and the decided to tweak them and make them "proper" NIN songs to go along with the 2008 "ghosts" tour.

EDIT: Well, this was my 666th post, maybe I should call it a day on ETS now, lol

DigitalChaos
05-29-2013, 01:36 AM
The Slip wasn't something drastically different from existing work. In fact, it was very similar to some of NIN's previous most popular work. Go figure, an album designed to be a gift to the fans that is full of stuff that he knew fans would enjoy. Isn't that the point?!

Ryan
05-29-2013, 01:43 AM
Trent pulled a Bowie!

Ryan
05-29-2013, 01:44 AM
IT HAS BEGUN!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrQ2pKMwQC4

hahaha perfect.

slave2thewage
05-29-2013, 01:53 AM
So it's going to be old NIN with Josh Eustis? Slowclapping Trent right now tbh.

ManBurning
05-29-2013, 01:54 AM
The Slip wasn't something drastically different from existing work. In fact, it was very similar to some of NIN's previous most popular work. Go figure, an album designed to be a gift to the fans that is full of stuff that he knew fans would enjoy. Isn't that the point?!


EXACTLY!

(well, there goes my short lived "stop at 666 posts" theory. I knew I couldn't last that long, it was nice seeing it for the 5 minutes it lasted, lol)

The songs were not RUSHED together for the sake of the tour. They were probably songs that were sitting around on the back-burner waiting for a "proper" NIN release, and he just so happend to see an oppertunity to probably tweak them a bit, and as you mentioned, release them as a "gift" for the fans for the overwhelming success of the independant release of Ghosts I-IV.

The songs were going to show up one way or another before or after the tour. He probably just decided, hey since i'm hitting the road for Ghosts and I have the creative juices flowing, and I have all these totally awesome musicians at my disposal in my studio (Freese, Cortini, JMJ, Finck) Let's make some other awesome music to take on the road with us to promote this "Ghosts" tour, I just so happen to have some left over tracks from my Ghosts sessions that are begging for lyrics. And I know the perfect high pitched voice to add to add some "Yeah, yeah, yeah's" into Demon Seed!

But, that is probably why I like this album so much (The Slip), because as you said, it was a very "return to form" album for NIN. There was alot of familuar territory on it. It was like a flashback to the early days, loud and crunching guitar parts and interesting lyrical hooks.

onthewall2983
05-29-2013, 01:58 AM
I don't think he'll go the route of physical singles anymore, even with Columbia attempting to breathe down his neck. The Slip didn't have any physical singles, and HTDA hasn't had any ever (KIT doesn't count). 28 will be the new album.

From what I've heard, Sony might be the first of the big three to do away with physical *anything* anymore.

LexTron6K
05-29-2013, 02:10 AM
Three words: LIVE REHEARSAL VIDEOS.

kitz
05-29-2013, 02:30 AM
yeah, blah blah about who is touring and who isn't. blah blah about how the new album will sound like. Blah blah about people telling us again which is their favourite album. Seriously I DON'T CARE!

My point is:
NEW ALBUM, YEAH!

danebraddy
05-29-2013, 02:44 AM
yeah, blah blah about who is touring and who isn't. blah blah about how the new album will sound like. Blah blah about people telling us again which is their favourite album. Seriously I DON'T CARE!

My point is:
NEW ALBUM, YEAH!

I know right? It's almost like this is a discussion forum or somet- oh.

I too am pumped for this, though - given the film work and HTDA, I would be expecting a largely electronic affair -which would be awesome- but as Trent and co. have proven with almost every major release, initial expectation are usually wrong. Very wrong.

it sucks about Adrian, but I always took the 'new NIN' to mean sonically and lineup - same people doesn't mean the same results (not that I'd complain about the results, the tightness of the final shows with minimal setup was spectacular)

WorzelG
05-29-2013, 02:45 AM
Three words: LIVE REHEARSAL VIDEOS.

Except the ones so far are possibly going to have two members who have left

ManBurning
05-29-2013, 03:14 AM
Personally, i'd rather have anyone who is planning on bailing for this extensive 1.5 year world tour do it NOW while the rehearsals are taking place. We don't want this to be 2005 all over again where the tour starts and the first show gets cut in half due to issues with band members not being physcially (or mentally) capeable to handle the tour.

I'm still shocked they were able to carry that tour on with barely any cancelled shows at all. There were so many members that were in and out for the first leg of that 2005 [With_teeth] tour. But Trent is one of the greatest guys in rock and roll, if he has a tour planned, he damn well will make sure the show still goes on, even if that means hirring
Alex Carapetis.

Beta
05-29-2013, 03:35 AM
a) so on the old ets there was some guy confirming the tracklist of the slip before it was even announced officially. we need this guy now!

b) so just for the record: which albums/releases of NIN were made secretly and we did not know about it until it was finished? ghosts, the slip, and this one. any other one? about Year Zero we were informed that it was in the works, weren't we?

Vertigo
05-29-2013, 03:41 AM
[Re. live rehearsal videos]
Except the ones so far are possibly going to have two members who have left

All the more reason to have video footage, in my opinion, so we can hear how it would have sounded.

I hope we get some official statement about Adrian soon. I was ecstatic when the announcement came that he and Eric Avery would be on the next tour, and now it looks like I'm taking a double shot from the very tall disappointment glass. Still, looking forward to hearing Adrian's work on the new album; I wonder if Eric made any contributions to it. It would leave Perry Farrell as the only member of Jane's Addiction not to have a performance on a NIN song...

Regarding the new album, I'm surprised it's the Trent/Atticus/Alan triumverate producing again. Trent's tended to change co-producers frequently throughout his career, and has resulted in each album having a very fresh and different sound. I'd assumed a large part of the decision to form HTDA was to keep that team together while NIN continued to move in other directions.
As much as I love Year Zero, I kind of wish Trent had spent as long working with Keith Hillebrandt, Dave Ogilvie, Danny Lohner (on record) and Sean Beavan as he has with Atticus.

BenAkenobi
05-29-2013, 04:33 AM
By the way, no more $300 limited editions again, please Columbia.

icklekitty
05-29-2013, 04:37 AM
The last time I got excited about a NIN album The Slip happened.

*folds arms*

But I'll still spend £300 on something I'll never touch if there's a pre-order.

Trains
05-29-2013, 06:17 AM
So ready for this, feels like it's been a long wait. I genuinely thought we were going to have to wait until late 2014 for a new record.

Presideo
05-29-2013, 06:21 AM
I too am pumped for this, though - given the film work and HTDA, I would be expecting a largely electronic affair -which would be awesome- but as Trent and co. have proven with almost every major release, initial expectation are usually wrong. Very wrong.

Trent seems to do a pretty good job of separating the sound of his projects. He's been doing more minimal, electronic-based music for awhile now so I'd expect the new NIN album to be hard rocking and more guitar-driven.

Also, I highly doubt The Slip was a rush-job to help promote a tour. A tour usually promotes a new album, not the other way around. I'm assuming The Slip was made during the Ghosts sessions as a way to blow off steam from the unconventional, experimental Ghosts tracks. Demon Seed was a direct offspring of a Ghosts track and Corona Radiata could have easily fit in with the style and concept of Ghosts.

simonn
05-29-2013, 06:47 AM
The timing of the announcement does feel very much - 'good day to bury bad news'-y with regards to Adrians departure. Ecstatic about the new album announcement as I was going to bed last night, but somewhat tempered by the departure of Adrian - because it did really feel like we were going to get something unique on this tour, which I now have my (hopefully unfounded) doubts about. I await official word from either party to clarify, because this is turning into a mini-disaster for TR, losing two members of his touring band in the space of a couple of weeks - not the ideal preparation for your first tour in 3 1/2 years!

ambergris
05-29-2013, 07:26 AM
Trent pulled a Bowie!

Yes, I wanted to say something like that.
The Belew story even reminds me of Robert Fripp's almost-leak of the Bowie news.

I just hope that Trent's sound palette has been updated.

PhoenixML
05-29-2013, 08:25 AM
Let the countdown begins!

1 day without the new NIN album....

Indefinite_Cure
05-29-2013, 09:56 AM
I'm very excited about the news of a new NIN album. This has been my favourite band/musical project for most of my life. BUT, please, let it NOT be another Ghosts album! Seriously, The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo soundtrack was great, but I felt saturated when it came out: first Ghosts I-IV, then The Social Network, then another 3 discs of instrumentals (+ theme song for call of duty and theme song for Bullet Man, my personal favourite of all)

Mind you, Trent and friends' abilities to build up a mood with an instrumental piece are AWESOME, really! But, you know what I like about Nine Inch Nails? The SONGS. The ones I can sing along to, the one that fuck up my brain because my attention is instinctively focused on the voice and I miss details that after 15 years of listening to the album I suddenly find out and it's awesome.

october_midnight
05-29-2013, 10:02 AM
But I'll still spend £300 on something I'll never touch if there's a pre-order.

What about something you can never have?

BrokenSpiral
05-29-2013, 10:21 AM
What about something you can never have?

Kinda she wants to

Reznor2112
05-29-2013, 10:40 AM
Goddamn you Trent. I hate when stuff like this gets mentioned and then its just a waiting game to hear anything. Im happy its a lot sooner than next year but dammit I WANT SOME MORE INFO! ANYTHING!

andreiuc88
05-29-2013, 11:14 AM
Really excited about the new album, but really curious where the "Adrian Belew leaving NIN" info came from. I couldn't find anything.

staleincense
05-29-2013, 11:39 AM
Really excited about the new album, but really curious where the "Adrian Belew leaving NIN" info came from. I couldn't find anything.
He's only doing studio work now, apparently. Not performing live.

hobochic
05-29-2013, 12:05 PM
I'm getting passive-agressive-childhood-parents-divorce-teaching-me-not-to-expect-anything-to-last-forever flashbacks. Shit.

Oh well, that's life.

BRoswell
05-29-2013, 12:08 PM
So Pitchfork posts that Belew isn't performing WITHOUT linking to a source, and everyone believes it? Not saying it's 100% false, but I'm not believing this until I see some sort of official word.

accelestar
05-29-2013, 12:20 PM
So Pitchfork posts that Belew isn't performing WITHOUT linking to a source, and everyone believes it? Not saying it's 100% false, but I'm not believing this until I see some sort of official word.
Kinda like they posted about there being a new album without linking to a source?

skullboy0
05-29-2013, 12:24 PM
So Pitchfork posts that Belew isn't performing WITHOUT linking to a source, and everyone believes it? Not saying it's 100% false, but I'm not believing this until I see some sort of official word.

He's also not listed on the band's Facebook page (I just went & checked again & it was kinda funny to literally watch his name disappear as it replaced the cached version of the page with the current one) which is probably controlled by Trent & Rob & maybe a couple of others.

ryanmcfly
05-29-2013, 01:40 PM
I found this on instagram earlier: http://instagram.com/p/Z5lu_XnIAY/

DigitalChaos
05-29-2013, 02:04 PM
I found this on instagram earlier: http://instagram.com/p/Z5lu_XnIAY/

http://dc.moose.cc/temp/skitched-20130529-120325.jpg (http://kxxr.fimc.net/article.asp?id=1055558&SBID=4444)

virushopper
05-29-2013, 02:13 PM
http://dc.moose.cc/temp/skitched-20130529-120325.jpg (http://kxxr.fimc.net/article.asp?id=1055558&SBID=4444)

The statement posted on the site is when he left back in 2008.

And the date on the right is just the website telling you what day today is.

witte
05-29-2013, 02:13 PM
Same thought here....

DigitalChaos
05-29-2013, 02:19 PM
The statement posted on the site is when he left back in 2008.

And the date on the right is just the website telling you what day today is.
Yup. click in the image :)
I was demonstrating how random screenshots without the source can be misleading. The old Cortini news still made my heart skip a beat! There have been a lot of instances where there was "new NIN"

RJK
05-29-2013, 02:32 PM
So Pitchfork posts that Belew isn't performing WITHOUT linking to a source, and everyone believes it? Not saying it's 100% false, but I'm not believing this until I see some sort of official word.

The prp says that the Belew info comes from the press release that NIN sent out.

http://www.theprp.com/2013/05/28/news/nine-inch-nails-sign-with-columbia-records-new-album-due-this-year

jessamineny
05-29-2013, 02:35 PM
Yup. click in the image :)
I was demonstrating how random screenshots without the source can be misleading. The old Cortini news still made my heart skip a beat! There have been a lot of instances where there was "new NIN"

C'mon. Just present the information without being such a troll about it... especially with shit like this, in times like this. Aren't you an admin?

Wretchedest
05-29-2013, 02:37 PM
The worst kept secret on this forum: now official!

I am cautiously optimistic. The only rhetoric we have on this is that Trent seems to think this is a new sonic space for him/NIN and i think this is so sorely needed. Hes been dwelling with the same sound for some six years, IMHO, with some success and i would like to see him move forward.

Ill say that because I hold the controversial opinion that Trents music outside of the "NIN" label is essentially indistinct from the music within the "NIN label, i dont feel as if I havent consistently been hearing Nine Inch Nails music for the last five years. But the branding has nonetheless touched me subliminally and I am both stoked and curious.

My caution does come from the fact that the last full album of music Trent released under the NIN banner was probably his worst work. Ive observed in this thread people running to its defense, but i think there are excellent reasons why that album should have to be defended. Tonme it seems obvious that the slip was absolutely boring, in spite of the occassional decent song, and us fanboys are uust going to have to accept it as a failure.

That said, i think the Slip was recorded at a point where Trent may have been creatively exhausted, whereas he might be a little freshee and more energized for this one. Hopefully. I have a good feeling about it.

slave2thewage
05-29-2013, 02:42 PM
Keeping track of this lineup is harder to keep than keeping track of the characters in Game of Thrones.

Jadezuki
05-29-2013, 02:55 PM
As good as Trent can be to his fans it's a cool change of pace to not know exactly what he's doing all the time musically.


Bite your tongue. I still cringe when I hear the word "soon."

Senateguard33
05-29-2013, 03:10 PM
I don't think he'll go the route of physical singles anymore, even with Columbia attempting to breathe down his neck. The Slip didn't have any physical singles, and HTDA hasn't had any ever (KIT doesn't count). 28 will be the new album.

They did release an Omen, which is sort of like a teaser 12". There was a promo 12" as well for keep it together. Columbia still does singles, Depeche Mode is signed to them and released a couple remix singles on CD and 12". I'm leaning towards "expect at least a remix single or remix album"

Senateguard33
05-29-2013, 03:12 PM
I hope he follows the tradition of prior albums...an album, remix album and a couple remix singles. That would be awesome!!! I might be in the minority, but I really like NIN's remixes.

PhoenixML
05-29-2013, 03:14 PM
I love The Hand That Feeds and Discipline, but I'm hoping the new single will be a somewhat different.

Callahan
05-29-2013, 03:16 PM
The prp says that the Belew info comes from the press release that NIN sent out.

http://www.theprp.com/2013/05/28/news/nine-inch-nails-sign-with-columbia-records-new-album-due-this-year


According to the press release, Alessandro Cortini, Josh Eustis, Robin Finck and Ilan Rubin will comprise the core live lineup for the band. No mention was made of Adrian Belew—who was originally tipped—for the outfit.

I like how these guys mentioned it. They simply just made a statement that they noticed something missing, but never jumped to conclusions by announcing he was out of the band. Maybe people within the NIN camp will be able to confirm this soon, I really wanted to see what Belew could do on stage with NIN.

SM Rollinger
05-29-2013, 03:30 PM
I wouldnt call The Slip "the worst". More like "least best" (like IMO, Witha Teetha. I know alot of you guys love WT too, sorry)

jaypayton
05-29-2013, 04:16 PM
Avery out. Belew out. They are droppin like flies

carpenoctem
05-29-2013, 04:26 PM
My caution does come from the fact that the last full album of music Trent released under the NIN banner was probably his worst work. Ive observed in this thread people running to its defense, but i think there are excellent reasons why that album should have to be defended. Tonme it seems obvious that the slip was absolutely boring, in spite of the occassional decent song, and us fanboys are uust going to have to accept it as a failure.

That said, i think the Slip was recorded at a point where Trent may have been creatively exhausted, whereas he might be a little freshee and more energized for this one. Hopefully. I have a good feeling about it.

I completely agree, but The Slip was written and recorded very quickly as an experiment and should not be judged by the same standard.

Presideo
05-29-2013, 04:59 PM
I completely agree, but The Slip was written and recorded very quickly as an experiment and should not be judged by the same standard.
[citation needed]

littlemonkey613
05-29-2013, 05:03 PM
My defense of The Slip is that I still listen to it all the damn time.

sheepdean
05-29-2013, 05:03 PM
Wondering/hoping if Mariqueen will be on it in some form (she was on TGWTDT after all).

But hey, who gives a shit, new NIN

Callahan
05-29-2013, 05:11 PM
[citation needed]

NY Times article (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/08/arts/music/08pare.html?_r=0), page 2.


“The Slip” was knocked out in three weeks of studio time after a month of songwriting.

Didn't read the whole thing to see where it states that it was an experiment, but I do remember reading it somewhere. He put a time restriction on himself to see what he could accomplish in that time frame, and however it looked at the end, would be the finished product, rather than tinkering over weeks/months. I agree with what others are saying though, kinda tough to compare this album to the others based on the restrictions he put on himself. It was essentially an album that he just made for fun, to see what it would look like.

marodi
05-29-2013, 05:39 PM
My defense of The Slip is that I still listen to it all the damn time.

So am I. I really like The Slip. There, I've come out of the Slip closet.

r_z
05-29-2013, 05:42 PM
It's a regular album and therefore anything but tough to compare, imo. I don't even know why it should matter, how long it took them to record/produce The Slip... or any album for that matter. In the end, what matters is the music itself. And - as with any album - there're lovers and haters, which makes the "but he did it in only 7 minutes!!!" argument redundant to me.

[Shep]
05-29-2013, 05:54 PM
Wondering/hoping if Mariqueen will be on it in some form (she was on TGWTDT after all).

Not unless there's a HTDA song on there...

october_midnight
05-29-2013, 06:27 PM
C'mon. Just present the information without being such a troll about it... especially with shit like this, in times like this. Aren't you an admin?

Fuckin' seriously, I was thinking the same thing. *Goes to Google Images* "This'll show 'em!"

Twiggy
05-29-2013, 06:32 PM
Double album? not sure he has had the time but if energy is high anything could happen.

I'd love to see him do something as monumental as The Fragile again...

sheepdean
05-29-2013, 06:40 PM
Double album? not sure he has had the time but if energy is high anything could happen.

I'd love to see him do something as monumental as The Fragile again...
The Fragile and Ghosts aren't good for being double albums, they're good AND double albums.

carpenoctem
05-29-2013, 06:47 PM
It's a regular album and therefore anything but tough to compare, imo. I don't even know why it should matter, how long it took them to record/produce The Slip... or any album for that matter. In the end, what matters is the music itself. And - as with any album - there're lovers and haters, which makes the "but he did it in only 7 minutes!!!" argument redundant to me.

True, but it helps with the creative process to take a step back and say, "Is this really working?" or "Do I need to tweak this part a little more?" which is a luxury he purposefully didn't give himself with The Slip. More time would almost definitely have yielded more enjoyable songs, but that was the point, to knock something out and see what happened. Hence, the least enjoyable NIN record.

Ghostofme
05-29-2013, 06:51 PM
There's also this... http://www.adrianbelew.net/tour/


Aaaand now it's gone... As much as I didn't want to believe this, seems legit... No live Belew crunchies after all.
Oh well, New Album!!! Robin Fucking Finck!! Reinvention!!??!!

halo33
05-29-2013, 06:56 PM
I just hope its more like "Tetsuo" with lyrics and less like "Not So Pretty Now".

NINfanatic82
05-29-2013, 07:07 PM
Aww shit, NIN is in the Yahoo's top ten list for trending searches!! That is def a good sign of things to come this year, def excited for the album and the LIVE shows!!

slave2thewage
05-29-2013, 07:13 PM
"Adrian is currently off the road."

Strangely poignant choice of words.

BRoswell
05-29-2013, 07:14 PM
Kinda like they posted about there being a new album without linking to a source?

But in that case, we had Trent's statement to back it up, just like when Eustis left, we had his statement as well as Trent's to back it up. If he left, or if there was a misunderstanding about his exact role, you would think either Belew or Trent or somebody would clarify it.

Again, this probably is true, but I don't want to go off of what Pitchfork said. I want something official.

Krazy
05-29-2013, 07:51 PM
But in that case, we had Trent's statement to back it up, just like when Eustis left, we had his statement as well as Trent's to back it up. If he left, or if there was a misunderstanding about his exact role, you would think either Belew or Trent or somebody would clarify it.

Again, this probably is true, but I don't want to go off of what Pitchfork said. I want something official.


Dammitt... Now Eustis is gone!?!?!?!?

We're quickly losing track of names.

sheepdean
05-29-2013, 08:00 PM
Halo 28: just kidding guys this is an audiobook, everything over the past 24 years has been a lie

Jinsai
05-29-2013, 08:00 PM
I hope the news about Belew dropping out is rumor mill bs. His involvement was the thing I was most interested in with this tour.

Ghostofme
05-29-2013, 08:10 PM
I hope the news about Belew dropping out is rumor mill bs. His involvement was the thing I was most interested in with this tour.

Doesn't look like it. The tour section of his official website updated today to say "off the road"..

Reznor2112
05-29-2013, 09:13 PM
Eustis has not left. Where did you get that?

jessamineny
05-29-2013, 09:14 PM
I believe he just mixed up Eustis' and Avery's names.

Jinsai
05-29-2013, 09:17 PM
Doesn't look like it. The tour section of his official website updated today to say "off the road"..

That would be a strange way for him to announce that he was quitting the tour.

BRoswell
05-29-2013, 09:17 PM
I believe he just mixed up Eustis' and Avery's names.

Correct. I'm an idiot.

snaapz
05-29-2013, 09:41 PM
Fuck yes! I'm psyched as hell!

What I'm most curious about at this point is the artwork. nin.com looks classy, but totally stripped down so I'm looking forward to Rob revealing the artwork step by step on a new page (probably why the official forum is getting a revamp).

O Trent you sneaky ol' bastard!

I agree about the artwork. I'm hoping this summer produces a single or two and some images / texture. I know it's cliche to say but I would love to see some fragile style release... and a single for summer play (the day the world went away)

cashpiles (closed)
05-29-2013, 10:48 PM
Let's just say that TDS and The Fragile were made with Lego Technic blocks. And then albums from With Teeth and onwards were made with regular Lego blocks. What I hope Trent did with this new album is build with Duplo blocks. I am hoping for big, chunky, bombastic sounds: seemingly super simple, yet multi-layered. We need a lot of oomph and energy to this bastard - let it be a celebration of life.

Presideo
05-30-2013, 12:09 AM
NY Times article (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/08/arts/music/08pare.html?_r=0), page 2.

Didn't read the whole thing to see where it states that it was an experiment, but I do remember reading it somewhere. He put a time restriction on himself to see what he could accomplish in that time frame, and however it looked at the end, would be the finished product, rather than tinkering over weeks/months. I agree with what others are saying though, kinda tough to compare this album to the others based on the restrictions he put on himself. It was essentially an album that he just made for fun, to see what it would look like.


True, but it helps with the creative process to take a step back and say, "Is this really working?" or "Do I need to tweak this part a little more?" which is a luxury he purposefully didn't give himself with The Slip. More time would almost definitely have yielded more enjoyable songs, but that was the point, to knock something out and see what happened. Hence, the least enjoyable NIN record.

Hate to harp on this, but spending a month writing 10 songs and another 3 weeks recording the songs (with help from Freese, Cortini, Finck, Ross, and Moulder) doesn't exactly mean that he rushed it. I guess in NIN-time, where a new album was usually released every five years, it may seem like he rushed it. But bands/artists usually don't spend years tweaking every second of an album like Trent did in the 90's. Setting time constraints on a project doesn't automatically make it a rushed, half-assed project.

Most of Year Zero was written on a tour bus in the span of a few months while touring, and Trent said himself that a lot of it was improvised. Does that make it a rushed "experiment" that was "knocked out" quickly?

AgentofChaos
05-30-2013, 12:32 AM
It's interesting to see people bring The Slip up again. I suppose it makes sense since it was technically NIN's last release but it feels like so much has happened since then that it isn't entirely relevant when you want to consider artist growth from album to album. That said, I still very much enjoyed that record, and consider it to be a fine entry to the nine inch nails album collection. I think people's issue with it is less quality, and more the length, but it's never quantified in that way unfortunately. Most records these days are standard 10-11 tracks. NIN fans are spoiled (TDS 14, TF 23, WT 13, YZ 17). After all most NIN fans, even ones who aren't big fans of the record, seem to dig Echoplex, Head Down, The Four of Us are Dying, Lights in the Sky, and Demon Seed. That's half the album right there. 999 is a simple intro track. Corona Radiata was an extended Tool esque interlude. The only real songs people seem to take issue with are 1,000,000, Letting You, and Discipline, all of which were likely written/included because of their up tempo style, since most of the rest of the songs were not ideal for a live setting and he probably wanted to include a few rockers to play on the upcoming tour. I think 1,000,000 is simple, but fun. Letting You killed it live for me. Discipline was catchy but I have to say wore off quickly for me. I would love to hear someone who really disliked The Slip take a tangible issue with more than 3 tracks from it. That said, would it have worked better as EP? Probably. My ideal version goes something like this;

1. Lights in the Sky
2. Head Down
3. Echoplex [Rehearsal]
4. Letting You [Rehearsal]
5. The Four of Us are Dying
6. Demon Seed


Moving on, what if this new album is only 10 tracks though, and like usual there is an instrumental or two? Are people expecting 13-17 tracks? I would be happily surprised if there were, but it's far from a requirement for me. Sometimes less is more. I don't see why Jho can make Like Clockwork with 10 tracks and have everyone rave, but TR is forced into having everything he does be sprawling and epic. I know they are different artists with different styles, but the QOTSA example is simply a recent relevant comparision of a great album that was compact in nature. I hope if we see a tracklist posted and it's only ten songs that people don't start in with a bitchfest of 'oh great it's The Slip Part 2' or 'Oh fuck this isn't going to the Fragile 2' or some other bullshit. But that is probably inevitable.

BRoswell
05-30-2013, 01:17 AM
I've learned not to expect anything when it comes to Nine Inch Nails. It'll be what it is, for better or worse. I just have to find the patience to wait for it.

jessamineny
05-30-2013, 07:43 AM
Correct. I'm an idiot.

Your brain thought one thing, and your fingers typed another. We've all been there. :)



Hate to harp on this, but spending a month writing 10 songs and another 3 weeks recording the songs (with help from Freese, Cortini, Finck, Ross, and Moulder) doesn't exactly mean that he rushed it. I guess in NIN-time, where a new album was usually released every five years, it may seem like he rushed it. But bands/artists usually don't spend years tweaking every second of an album like Trent did in the 90's. Setting time constraints on a project doesn't automatically make it a rushed, half-assed project.

Most of Year Zero was written on a tour bus in the span of a few months while touring, and Trent said himself that a lot of it was improvised. Does that make it a rushed "experiment" that was "knocked out" quickly?

No, we can't really use TR's description of it as an "experiment" as evidence of anything negative, because he calls everything an experiment. He called Year Zero an experiment (something about how it started as an experiment with noise on a laptop on a tour bus), and Ghosts an experiment (with putting sound to visuals). I'm sure he'll call the new album an experiment in something, too.

But we are justified if we want to call The Slip rushed, because we are using TR as the yardstick. It's his album. So what if some bands spend two months writing and recording an entire album? I'm sure the music is super fly. : /

r_z
05-30-2013, 08:04 AM
True, but it helps with the creative process to take a step back and say, "Is this really working?" or "Do I need to tweak this part a little more?" which is a luxury he purposefully didn't give himself with The Slip. More time would almost definitely have yielded more enjoyable songs, but that was the point, to knock something out and see what happened. Hence, the least enjoyable NIN record.

I think, the bolded part is a wrong assumption and you're making it sound too easy. Also, there's always the danger of overthinking stuff, when you're tweaking parts over and over again. I don't even know, which parts on, say, "Head Down" he could've tweaked a little longer. If anything, that song sounds like he spent more time on it as with any of the stripped down "With Teeth" rockers, musically and lyrically.

Also, I'm with Presidio on this:


Setting time constraints on a project doesn't automatically make it a rushed, half-assed project.

witte
05-30-2013, 08:45 AM
I love The Hand That Feeds and Discipline, but I'm hoping the new single will be a somewhat different.

Please no songs like "Survivalism - THTF - Discipline" anymore! Thank you.

sheepdean
05-30-2013, 09:13 AM
So did NIN sign to Columbia the same time as HTDA or later, or earlier?

Also, does this mean a One Direction/NIN double headline tour?

hobochic
05-30-2013, 09:14 AM
I don't really get the negativity towards The Slip. I think TS is solid, plus it manages to deliver what With Teeth struggles too hard to achieve - of being the antithesis of The Fragile. While WT tries to market itself as the rock version of NIN, it still sounds like an over polished album. The Slip's got more vitality than anything on WT, plus, it finally managed to tap NIN back into the raw DIY-energy that Broken once delivered. The only thing The Slip missed out on was a remix album, like Fixed was to Broken. Would've killed to hear what Peter Christopherson (RIP), Foetus & Co. would have managed to put together.


That said, "Discipline" is probably among my top five worst NIN songs.

slave2thewage
05-30-2013, 09:41 AM
Also, does this mean a One Direction/NIN double headline tour?
Josh is clearly the Harry of this group.

Presideo
05-30-2013, 09:43 AM
But we are justified if we want to call The Slip rushed, because we are using TR as the yardstick. It's his album. So what if some bands spend two months writing and recording an entire album? I'm sure the music is super fly. : /
We're talking about a yardstick that spans 2+ decades, though. The artist has evolved. Technology has been improved. A certain comfort-zone between TR and other musicians that didn't exist before is now embraced during the recording stage of an album. I don't think an artist whose comfortable making good music at a quick pace should have a legitimate album be labelled as a rush job just because he spent more time working on albums in the past.

If you're comparing the 2 years it took to make The Fragile with the 2 months it took to make The Slip, then I guess it may seem rushed...until you read into how much of a clusterfuck the making of The Fragile truly was - so much of a clusterfuck that TR had to get outside help from Bob Ezrin just to make a cohesive tracklisting. Alan Moulder recalls that they'd constantly start and stop production of songs whenever they got bored, and wouldn't go back to working on certain songs for weeks at a time. They had days solely dedicated to buying weird instruments at music shops. They used a lot of DAWs and other software to achieve certain sounds, which can now be streamlined, resulting in less primal, faster methods of production. Other than the 25 songs that made the final cut, there's also "lost" tracks and other unused material that could be astronomically high. And although I enjoy The Fragile, I also believe it's a good double album that could have been a great single-disc album if some of the bloat were chopped off; the extensive time it took laboring over the record didn't exactly result in perfection.

Also, for the record, I never mentioned anything about other bands recording "super fly" albums in two months; I stated that most bands don't spend years recording albums like Trent did (though Deerhunter are known for creating albums quickly, and they're always pretty damn fly.)

theimage13
05-30-2013, 09:45 AM
I think The Slip probably ranks lowest on my NIN totem pole, but I still enjoy it. A lot of the songs didn't really grow on me until after hearing them live, where they took on a much higher intensity than they did on the album.

Having said that, I do hope that the new album is nothing like it. Of course I'd be happy if it was as complex, layered, and just plain friggin' good as TDS or The Fragile, but I'd also be happy to have something that you struggle to compare to any of his past releases. I just hope that it doesn't take forever to come out, since we already know that the music itself is finished.

witte
05-30-2013, 10:53 AM
...I decided to focus that energy on taking Nine Inch Nails to a new place


this line is constantly in my head.
i really hope this NIN will be complete different.

snaapz
05-30-2013, 10:57 AM
Re: When\Where\How\Why past albums were recorded...

Yes, TS & YZ sound like they weren't "take 2 years, open my journal, stare out the window, play around on piano, watch a movie 10 times in a row" productions; though YZ is brilliant and TS has it's moments.

The developing atmosphere for Halo 28 may have been more peaceful with time to be alone and reflect and re-baseline with less constraints. The creative cookie jar of emotions and opinions had a few years to refill with never before seen feelings, views, opinions and emotions. Just like me. I can't wait to listen.... rather discover.

I'm interested to see what Rob comes up with too. I hope it's more photography, rather than digital. Maybe a mix.

WorzelG
05-30-2013, 11:08 AM
^^^i don't think having two kids will help create a peaceful environment! I think being a parent may make you less nihilistic though and at least hopeful that things in the world can change for the better, rather than revelling in a dystopia (what am I saying though, welcome oblivion was totally revelling in a dystopia)

Bokononist
05-30-2013, 11:19 AM
^^^i don't think having two kids will help create a peaceful environment! I think being a parent may make you less nihilistic though and at least hopeful that things in the world can change for the better, rather than revelling in a dystopia (what am I saying though, welcome oblivion was totally revelling in a dystopia)

I want to lean this way too. Hopefully Columbia didn't give him free reign and Reznor was up to the challenge of working with a new editor. There's some promising elements floating in this news but I think I'll set my default to disappointed until I hear the music.

screwdriver
05-30-2013, 11:22 AM
Setting time constraints on a project doesn't automatically make it a rushed, half-assed project.


totally spot on

you know, the only reason any of us ever HEARD the fragile is because someone finally fucking set a deadline. you read those production diaries and they were scrambling to make the deadline. absent a release date, they might have just dicked around some more.

marodi
05-30-2013, 12:16 PM
...I decided to focus that energy on taking Nine Inch Nails to a new place


this line is constantly in my head.
i really hope this NIN will be complete different.

I can't wait to hear it too.

But you know what? Whatever NIN has become, there's one thing you can be sure of: endless bitching about it.

That's the nature of the Beast.

tremolo
05-30-2013, 12:35 PM
I've learned not to expect anything when it comes to Nine Inch Nails. It'll be what it is, for better or worse. I just have to find the patience to wait for it.

THIS.


That's how I've been facing new releases anouncements and I haven't been disappointed so far.

It is what it is, I'm just happy there will be new NIN music this year, and i'm excited as hell about everything surrounding the album... artwork, theme, length, singles, videos...

ryanmcfly
05-30-2013, 01:16 PM
The album is going to be a bunch of RnB beats with lyrics about love and going to the mall.

BrokenSpiral
05-30-2013, 01:26 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/e50395dfac9a9c4061ccf4ba902b30b3/tumblr_inline_mmz07qXJsi1qz4rgp.gif

LexTron6K
05-30-2013, 02:12 PM
totally spot on

you know, the only reason any of us ever HEARD the fragile is because someone finally fucking set a deadline. you read those production diaries and they were scrambling to make the deadline. absent a release date, they might have just dicked around some more.
I have not read these diaries. Any idea where I could find them?

skullboy0
05-30-2013, 03:03 PM
I've never seen these production diaries. . . any idea where I could find them?

http://nineinchnails.tumblr.com/

DigitalChaos
05-30-2013, 03:38 PM
^^^i don't think having two kids will help create a peaceful environment! I think being a parent may make you less nihilistic though and at least hopeful that things in the world can change for the better, rather than revelling in a dystopia (what am I saying though, welcome oblivion was totally revelling in a dystopia)
I'm very interested in how the kid dynamic has changed things for him. It absolutely changes you. However, it could have also easily made him more pissed off at the broken world and more inclined to beat the shit out of it until it gets into an acceptable state for his kid's future :) It really depends on if he is looking inward or outward. His albums for the last decade have been very outward looking.

WorzelG
05-30-2013, 03:49 PM
I'm very interested in how the kid dynamic has changed things for him. It absolutely changes you. However, it could have also easily made him more pissed off at the broken world and more inclined to beat the shit out of it until it gets into an acceptable state for his kid's future :) It really depends on if he is looking inward or outward. His albums for the last decade have been very outward looking.

Exactly - it could go either way, that's why it annoys me a bit when people say once you get 'a family' then suddenly you're not allowed to get angry anymore. I get much more angry at the world now I have kids than I ever did before, because I actually care what happens in the world after I die

DigitalChaos
05-30-2013, 04:06 PM
Yea, I don't know if it's kids or just more life experience but I am definitely more pissed off at the world now that I was before. I also have less time for creative endeavors. So, I have to concentrate my anger to ensure I get it all out during the allotted times :D

carpenoctem
05-30-2013, 04:37 PM
I can't wait to hear it too.

But you know what? Whatever NIN has become, there's one thing you can be sure of: endless bitching about it.

That's the nature of the Beast.

Try to think of it less as bitching and more as intense scrutiny and heated discussion born of love. I'll repeat what I said earlier: this news has made my year! Nothing else can come close to new NIN.

That being said, why is there not more speculation about the "new place" Trent wants to take the music to? Only for the live incarnation, do you think, or has he reinvented himself on the album à la Shaking The Habitual?

Reznor2112
05-30-2013, 04:39 PM
Just curious as to why Aly posted this on his instagram today...

http://distilleryimage2.s3.amazonaws.com/7fb2b9cec96011e2a15422000a9f19a4_7.jpg

Deepvoid
05-30-2013, 06:02 PM
Obviously because the new album will only be released on cassette.

eversonpoe
05-30-2013, 06:08 PM
Just curious as to why Aly posted this on his instagram today...

http://distilleryimage2.s3.amazonaws.com/7fb2b9cec96011e2a15422000a9f19a4_7.jpg

i have that same Tascam 4-track! but it records/plays at a completely different (higher) speed than a normal tape deck...so listening to broken on it must sound INSANE.

dpeters
05-30-2013, 07:29 PM
One of the morning DJs on 107.7 The End (KNDD) said that he's heard a track from the new album.

Are the promo/radio copies already reaching stations?

Magtig
05-30-2013, 07:45 PM
i have that same Tascam 4-track! but it records/plays at a completely different (higher) speed than a normal tape deck...so listening to broken on it must sound INSANE.
I don't think they're listening to Broken; I think they're recording over it. See that piece of tape on the upper left side of the cassette over the protection tab (http://www.online-utility.org/image/ImageCache?file=3/37/CassetteWriteProtect.jpg/800px-CassetteWriteProtect.jpg)?

SM Rollinger
05-30-2013, 07:46 PM
Cuz their gona play Happiness In Slavery live again but Trent wants it sound all Analog-y so their brushing up with some reference materials.

skip niklas
05-30-2013, 08:07 PM
That's gonna be a sweet warbly, distorted sound.

Reznor2112
05-30-2013, 08:09 PM
Cuz their gona play Happiness In Slavery live again but Trent wants it sound all Analog-y so their brushing up with some reference materials.

HOLY SHIT! THEY ARE TOTALLY GUNNA PLAY HAPPINESS IN SLAVERY! That would be fucking amazing!

allegro
05-30-2013, 08:21 PM
HOLY SHIT! THEY ARE TOTALLY GUNNA PLAY HAPPINESS IN SLAVERY! That would be fucking amazing!
Maybe they're gonna do "Last" live.

somewhat_
05-30-2013, 08:50 PM
One of the morning DJs on 107.7 The End (KNDD) said that he's heard a track from the new album.

Are the promo/radio copies already reaching stations?


Did he have anything interesting to say about it?

MrSlfDstruct
05-30-2013, 09:03 PM
Maybe they're gonna do "Last" live.

They've been doing Last live for the last couple of tours, albeit in a lower key than the original.

allegro
05-30-2013, 09:08 PM
They've been doing Last live for the last couple of tours, albeit in a lower key than the original.
I've never seen it live, would be nice to see some really creative version (it's my favorite NIN song) but this is drifting from the thread.

MrSlfDstruct
05-30-2013, 09:11 PM
I'm really hoping the Broken cassette tweet is some hint as to which direction the new album is leaning. I'd still love the mythical combo of TDS and Broken.

Ghostofme
05-30-2013, 09:12 PM
One of the morning DJs on 107.7 The End (KNDD) said that he's heard a track from the new album.

Are the promo/radio copies already reaching stations?



Did he have anything interesting to say about it?

Or maybe a track name? Was it Clap Trap Crack Slap?

MrSlfDstruct
05-30-2013, 09:15 PM
Or maybe a track name? Was it Clap Trap Crack Slap?

Fictitious or not, this is the best track name ever.

butter_hole
05-30-2013, 09:22 PM
I'd like to see them do Head Like A Hole live

allegro
05-30-2013, 10:02 PM
I'm really hoping the Broken cassette tweet is some hint as to which direction the new album is leaning. I'd still love the mythical combo of TDS and Broken.
Me, too !!!!

barkhammer
05-30-2013, 11:16 PM
Am already picturing a Meathead cartoon for Clap Trap Crack Slap...

Paperthin567
05-31-2013, 12:03 AM
Wondering/hoping if Mariqueen will be on it in some form (she was on TGWTDT after all).

But hey, who gives a shit, new NIN

You can't be serious. Can you? If he puts Q on the album, NIN's credibility will be forever lost. Sorry, but she does not belong on a NIN record. And stop trolling.

sheepdean
05-31-2013, 12:07 AM
You can't be serious. Can you? If he puts Q on the album, NIN's credibility will be forever lost. Sorry, but she does not belong on a NIN record. And stop trolling.
NIN has credibility? You know they did a song for Tomb Raider where Trent was covered in green paint?

But hey, he has a musician living in his house now, she wouldn't have to sing to be "on it", but it's hardly a crazy concept for her to have twisted a dial or given some input.

Paperthin567
05-31-2013, 12:09 AM
NIN has credibility? You know they did a song for Tomb Raider where Trent was covered in green paint?

But hey, he has a musician living in his house now, she wouldn't have to sing to be "on it", but it's hardly a crazy concept for her to have twisted a dial or given some input.
Touché. Valid points.

butter_hole
05-31-2013, 12:43 AM
You can't be serious. Can you? If he puts Q on the album, NIN's credibility will be forever lost. Sorry, but she does not belong on a NIN record. And stop trolling.
yeah! yoko all over again right!!!!!!!

NINisamazing
05-31-2013, 12:43 AM
Wondering/hoping if Mariqueen will be on it in some form (she was on TGWTDT after all).

But hey, who gives a shit, new NIN
I certainly hope not(pleasegodno). But it wouldnt be at all surprising if she at-least lays down some backing vocals.

BenAkenobi
05-31-2013, 12:47 AM
I certainly hope not(pleasegodno)...

the clouds will part and the sky cracks open and godhimselfwillreachhisfuckingarmthrough just to push her down

butter_hole
05-31-2013, 12:59 AM
yeah!!! how dare he!!!!

Presideo
05-31-2013, 01:01 AM
I wouldn't mind if Q did backing vocals for NIN - even having her sing La Mer or improvise over an instrumental during a live show wouldn't be taboo in my eyes (though I'm sure many would disagree)

m0reta
05-31-2013, 01:06 AM
You can't be serious. Can you? If he puts Q on the album, NIN's credibility will be forever lost. Sorry, but she does not belong on a NIN record. And stop trolling.

Pretty sure in the universe I live in, the only one who gets to define what does or doesn't belong on a NIN record is Trent. And whatever he puts out (heh heh *puts out* /beavis) I expect will be interesting one way or another.

But let us continue to speculate about the pointless.

Track 9....somewhere will be the sound of nappies crinkling.

No more dog barks people! It's babies crying behind that screaming guitar.

And that vacuum? It's back! But it's just a straight vroom vroom to get up the Cheerios scattered over the table and around the chairs.

No bees. Cuz no honey for those under 1 years of age.

NINisamazing
05-31-2013, 01:07 AM
I like her voice and HTDA. If she is on the new album then so be it. But from a totally outside perspective I feel like the vocals (especially lead) should be pretty much mostly all Trent considering its a NIN record (but who am I?). Clearly I can understand if she is on the record, and either way its not a big deal. I am really just beyond excited that there is going to be a new record and there is a tour. That's all.

butter_hole
05-31-2013, 01:17 AM
I like her voice and HTDA. If she is on the new album then so be it. But from a totally outside perspective I feel like the vocals (especially lead) should be pretty much mostly all Trent considering its a NIN record (but who am I?). Clearly I can understand if she is on the record, and either way its not a big deal. I am really just beyond excited that there is going to be a new record and there is a tour. That's all.
Denise Milford

Leviathant
05-31-2013, 01:19 AM
You can't be serious. Can you? If he puts Q on the album, NIN's credibility will be forever lost. Sorry, but she does not belong on a NIN record.

Totally with you bro. I stopped paying attention to Nine Inch Nails after his girlfriend showed up on that pussy piano song on The Fragile. La Mer? More like LAMER!

Edit: sonofabitch, butter_hole beat me to the punch.

jaypayton
05-31-2013, 02:03 AM
TR isn't stupid enough to put his wife on a NIN record. I am sure he is well aware he would come off like a tool by doing that and I am sure MQ realizes NIN is TR's personal playground

thelastdisciple
05-31-2013, 02:08 AM
I could actually imagine hearing Q peppered in a NIN track doing some kind of background whispery stuff during a break or some kind of cryptic chanting in between Trent heavy vocal parts or sort of similar to how Trent sings on The Greater Good but a lot more hidden within the music and not blatant or upfront.

butter_hole
05-31-2013, 02:09 AM
TR isn't stupid enough to put his wife on a NIN record.
And we all know you're a certified expert when it comes to stupidity.

accelestar
05-31-2013, 02:11 AM
TR isn't stupid enough to put his wife on a NIN record. I am sure he is well aware he would come off like a tool by doing that and I am sure MQ realizes NIN is TR's personal playground

I'd hope that he's not worrying or thinking about what other people would think if Q sang on the new NIN album. It's his project, it's his music, and he should be able to do whatever he wants with it.

My only reservation about her potentially being on a NIN album is what then would differentiate NIN from HTDA? It's him and Atticus either way, and adding his wife makes the same band.

Still, it wouldn't really bother me too much.

sheepdean
05-31-2013, 02:14 AM
I'd like to remind everyone Q can do more than sing~

reseen_lamenti
05-31-2013, 02:17 AM
I could actually imagine hearing Q peppered in a NIN track doing some kind of background whispery stuff during a break or some kind of cryptic chanting in between Trent heavy vocal parts or sort of similar to how Trent sings on The Greater Good but a lot more hidden within the music and not blatant or upfront.

Ah yes, I can almost picture Q doing it now.

"fuck you jayyyy". (ala, Physical)