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pushingreality
05-02-2013, 03:44 PM
https://beta.indabamusic.com/opportunity-series/how-to-destroy-angels-welcome-oblivion-remix-contest

On The Wing, How Long?, and Strings and Attractors available for remixing.

The 'advance pack' downloads have extras that seem to be outtakes/demo material for each song, which is pretty neat.

sheepdean
05-02-2013, 04:55 PM
I can't get the fucking thing to download (not that I remix, I'm just really, really OCD) - anyone got a hotlink that doesn't require me crashing facebook?

Also, the idea of TR doing a competition that actually ends with an actual winner is hilarious.

Reaps
05-02-2013, 05:09 PM
Indabamusic.com would like access to your email, facebook profile, friends and would like to post on facebook on your behalf.. fuck.that.shit.

Better off signing up to Indabamusic instead.

Not that i've got the time to remix them but i've always wanted to hear 'How Long' in instrumental form.

BRoswell
05-02-2013, 05:23 PM
I was hoping this would happen after they mentioned Indaba on their AMA. Have to wonder if it was already a go or if they really didn't know much about it at the time.

butter_hole
05-02-2013, 05:32 PM
you dont need to use your FB if you just create a regular account

xolotl
05-02-2013, 05:37 PM
Indabamusic.com would like access to your email, facebook profile, friends and would like to post on facebook on your behalf.. fuck.that.shit.
The only thing I needed to give them to have an account was my email. Just don't log in using facebook - they'll let you create a "local" account.
Edit: Er, which I see you actually already mentioned. I fail.

Anyway, there's definitely some fun stuff in there; I'm looking forward to hearing what people create with all this!

sheepdean
05-02-2013, 05:45 PM
Well I managed to get the files through a friend - anyone who knows anything about anything know if the "extra" bits can be used to create a track or are they simply out takes?

BRoswell
05-02-2013, 05:55 PM
I may be wrong (I've only listened to a few of the tracks), but I think the advanced pack is just the song broken up into more parts so that you can really experiment with it.

xolotl
05-02-2013, 05:59 PM
I may be wrong (I've only listened to a few of the tracks), but I think the advanced pack is just the song broken up into more parts so that you can really experiment with it.
On the Wing and Strings+Attractors also have an "extras" folder of extra stuff. I didn't take more than a cursory look at them, but they're not just extra multitrack components; their lengths are different from the rest of the tracks, and can't be just played on top of the main components. So yeah, it's extra stuff of one sort or another.

neorev
05-02-2013, 06:02 PM
damn, i used up all of download contest points on Indaba... anyone able to PM How Long? and String & Attractors? i got On The Wing.

pushingreality
05-02-2013, 06:40 PM
On the Wing and Strings+Attractors also have an "extras" folder of extra stuff. I didn't take more than a cursory look at them, but they're not just extra multitrack components; their lengths are different from the rest of the tracks, and can't be just played on top of the main components. So yeah, it's extra stuff of one sort or another.

They seem to be demo/idea tracks which are pretty neat to listen to. Example: "TR_Idea 2.01_02" in the Strings and Attractors extras is an 18 minute file that's basically Trent messing around with an idea before it resulted in the "Pitch Machine 1 Stem" track. It has lots and lots of variations of that stem; people can easily cut portions of it and utilize it for remix means.

butter_hole
05-02-2013, 07:38 PM
They seem to be demo/idea tracks which are pretty neat to listen to. Example: "TR_Idea 2.01_02" in the Strings and Attractors extras is an 18 minute file that's basically Trent messing around with an idea before it resulted in the "Pitch Machine 1 Stem" track. It has lots and lots of variations of that stem; people can easily cut portions of it and utilize it for remix means.
Sick. SICK.

So glad they put that there.

slave2thewage
05-02-2013, 08:25 PM
Why not "The loop closes"? WHY NOT?!

I'd take a crack at "On the wing" but I've a project due the week before the deadline and I only have access to Logic during the working week. Here's hoping someone else on here will take away the prize.

bgalbraith
05-02-2013, 11:33 PM
Looking forward to putting something together for these, even if just for fun. While waiting for one of the advanced packs to download, I read through the entire legal terms text. Two things stuck out:

1) By submitting, you forfeit all rights and claims to the work. This is probably standard, and I can see why they require that, but it's worth noting.
2) The judging criteria is as follows: Originality (0-25 points), Creativity (0-25 points), Concept (0-25 points), and Musicality (0-25 points)

BRoswell
05-03-2013, 12:33 AM
So what's the rule about posting our entries here? Obviously flooding the thread with posts isn't going to happen, but are we allowed to post a link to them if we submitted a remix?

bgalbraith
05-03-2013, 01:11 AM
So what's the rule about posting our entries here? Obviously flooding the thread with posts isn't going to happen, but are we allowed to post a link to them if we submitted a remix?

You can link to your submission. In fact, that's encouraged if you want to get Facebook votes. What you aren't supposed to do is also post your submission to soundcloud or some other host.

Space Suicide
05-03-2013, 01:58 AM
https://soundcloud.com/howtodestroyangels/between-the-spaces-sonoio/s-N91ql

Alessandro had a go at the Spaces In Between. Sounds great.

wizfan
05-03-2013, 05:34 AM
Is this the first time Trent has offered 24/48 multitracks? I can't remember about the soundtracks, but the YZ, Ghosts, Saul Williams and Slip multitracks were in 16/44, I think.

sheepdean
05-03-2013, 12:59 PM
Surprised Ice Age wasn't one of them ones chosen, still it's nice having multitracks to toy with (though I don't plan to make anything further than some stripped down versions that just focus on vocals)

BRoswell
05-03-2013, 01:26 PM
Here's my remix for On The Wing. Threw it together in an hour just for the hell of it, so I'm not expecting to win or even be a runner up.

http://indaba.us/q7QE

gorast
05-03-2013, 02:34 PM
Where are the advanced packs located? I only got the multitracks without the extras.

wizfan
05-03-2013, 02:35 PM
Just below the individual stem buttons.

downward
05-03-2013, 04:25 PM
Never messed around with the remix stuff b4, what software do you use to mix everything? I have cool edit pro but I think I need something else

bgalbraith
05-03-2013, 04:45 PM
Never messed around with the remix stuff b4, what software do you use to mix everything? I have cool edit pro but I think I need something else

You typically used a digital audio workstation (DAW). Depends on your computer platform and what kind of effects you want to play with. Mac uses get Garageband for free or you can upgrade to Logic, which is aimed at professionals. In terms of free and cross-platform, there is Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/) on the simple end to more powerful DAW tools like Reaper (http://www.reaper.fm/). Reaper nags you to buy a license, but does not require it and doesn't disable any features if you go past the trial date.

There are of course other commercial DAWs (Ableton Live and Renoise to name a couple), and everyone has their own they tend to swear by. I use Reaper at the moment and find it's more than sufficient for my hobby-level needs.

Torgo
05-03-2013, 05:04 PM
I hope every remix has a dubstep drop.

DVYDRNS
05-03-2013, 06:57 PM
Working on mine.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/04/e3usyrap.jpg

bgalbraith
05-04-2013, 02:26 AM
I'm going for an 8-bit arcade feel for How Long? I've also got some ideas to try for String and Attractors, but nothing really concrete for On the Wing yet.

274

downward
05-04-2013, 08:14 AM
You typically used a digital audio workstation (DAW). Depends on your computer platform and what kind of effects you want to play with. Mac uses get Garageband for free or you can upgrade to Logic, which is aimed at professionals. In terms of free and cross-platform, there is Audacity (http://audacity.sourceforge.net/) on the simple end to more powerful DAW tools like Reaper (http://www.reaper.fm/). Reaper nags you to buy a license, but does not require it and doesn't disable any features if you go past the trial date.

There are of course other commercial DAWs (Ableton Live and Renoise to name a couple), and everyone has their own they tend to swear by. I use Reaper at the moment and find it's more than sufficient for my hobby-level needs.

Thanks for the info !

[carbon]
05-05-2013, 02:58 PM
Just posted my remix for "How Long?". Didn't stray too far away from the original, not in my opinion at least. I will try to make remixes for the other tracks as well.

http://indaba.us/r7rg


Good luck to everyone else who decides to participate.

downward
05-05-2013, 06:33 PM
Here's my stab at it...give it a listen if you like it....vote for it...thanks

http://api.awe.sm/url/share?campaign_name=how-to-destroy-angels-welcome-oblivion-remix-contest-how-long&v=3&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbeta.indabamusic.com%2Fopportuni ties%2Fhow-to-destroy-angels-welcome-oblivion-remix-contest-how-long%2Fsubmissions%2F43398190-b5d2-11e2-a617-12313d026137&key=57bc4952c4de7cca02ec623bd15e47cc7b2ff9e3e8da73 02375c991afe999215&tool=YbFZAb&destination=https%3A%2F%2Fbeta.indabamusic.com%2Fo pportunities%2Fhow-to-destroy-angels-welcome-oblivion-remix-contest-how-long%2Fsubmissions%2F43398190-b5d2-11e2-a617-12313d026137&channel=link&campaign=how-to-destroy-angels-welcome-oblivion-remix-contest-how-long&errors=false&

DVYDRNS
05-05-2013, 09:42 PM
I think 40 tracks is enough for this recreation. I think I am finalized.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/06/avagasyh.jpg

ecirb
05-06-2013, 11:25 AM
Totally NewB to remix, but here is my take on How long? http://indaba.us/q895

Tambourine fans unite!

uroboros
05-06-2013, 01:23 PM
anyone willin to make some instrumentals for the masses?

DVYDRNS
05-06-2013, 02:30 PM
Here we go.
http://indaba.us/i87c

No original tracks were used in this track. Just the vocals. Everything is yours truly.

I hope you enjoy it as much as I enjoyed recreating it.

DVYDRNS
05-11-2013, 07:10 PM
I really dont understand the way this contest works. I cant figure out how to vote or to be voted for. ive had mine up for a week and i only have 100 listens. and not to be a jerk, but theres a lot of really poopy remixes up there that seem like people are just goofing around that are getting promoted hard as HOT tracks. I dont really get it.

[carbon]
05-12-2013, 10:53 AM
Voting starts after the submission period. So the voting period will take place between May 29 and June 12. After that they will pick a winner and announce it "on or about" June 26.

With a place like Indaba I think you have to be prepared for a lot of "bedroom-producers" making dubstep tracks.

wizfan
05-12-2013, 12:02 PM
Is your wub strong enough?

bgalbraith
05-12-2013, 01:46 PM
There are two parts to this contest:

1) Grand prize winner ($500). This is the remix selected by HTDA and is not supposed to have anything to do with the voting. Instead, they are going to grade each submission on the four criteria I had mentioned earlier. My guess is they will have an intern assigned to go through all the tracks and filter it down to a high quality selection which they will then score.

2) Runner-Up(s) (Indaba pro for a year). This is based on popular vote. The top ten vote getters will be be reviewed, also by HDTA I think, and they will select three to be runner-up winners, who will receive a pro subscription to Indaba for a year.

It's also possible that the 10 from (2) will end up being the tracks under consideration for (1), but I'd like to think they actually have at least one person listen to all of them. I think they recognize that online popularity contests are not the best way to find the top quality submissions.

jmtd
05-12-2013, 03:40 PM
Here's my stab at it...give it a listen if you like it....vote for it...thanks

http://api.awe.sm/url/share?campaign_name=how-to-destroy-angels-welcome-oblivion-remix-contest-how-long&v=3&url=https%3A%2F%2Fbeta.indabamusic.com%2Fopportuni ties%2Fhow-to-destroy-angels-welcome-oblivion-remix-contest-how-long%2Fsubmissions%2F43398190-b5d2-11e2-a617-12313d026137&key=57bc4952c4de7cca02ec623bd15e47cc7b2ff9e3e8da73 02375c991afe999215&tool=YbFZAb&destination=https%3A%2F%2Fbeta.indabamusic.com%2Fo pportunities%2Fhow-to-destroy-angels-welcome-oblivion-remix-contest-how-long%2Fsubmissions%2F43398190-b5d2-11e2-a617-12313d026137&channel=link&campaign=how-to-destroy-angels-welcome-oblivion-remix-contest-how-long&errors=false&

This URL is so long I wondered whether encoding the mp3 in the URL would end up shorter

ninjaw
05-13-2013, 08:40 AM
Here are my instrumental mixes in glorious 24/48 flac http://ul.to/f/it9mlj obviously i made them for you, not for contest

erasemoi
05-14-2013, 04:57 PM
http://indaba.us/tBPl
always feel cheap asking for plays but well, yaknow..hahah

DVYDRNS
05-14-2013, 05:30 PM
Its a fantastic remix!

erasemoi
05-14-2013, 06:44 PM
cheers man! :o

[carbon]
05-15-2013, 03:44 PM
I made another one.

http://indaba.us/rBW8

bgalbraith
05-19-2013, 08:35 PM
Submitted!

I went with a stripped down acoustic version with alternating vocals. Enjoy.
http://indaba.us/aBji

n30fr05t
05-21-2013, 03:33 AM
https://beta.indabamusic.com/opportunity-series/how-to-destroy-angels-welcome-oblivion-remix-contest

On The Wing, How Long?, and Strings and Attractors available for remixing.

The 'advance pack' downloads have extras that seem to be outtakes/demo material for each song, which is pretty neat.

i seem to be the only one that noticed that "How Long" didn't quite have all of the stems in it
mainly referring to the environmental noises in the beginning and end

n30fr05t
05-21-2013, 03:52 AM
There are two parts to this contest:

1) Grand prize winner ($500). This is the remix selected by HTDA and is not supposed to have anything to do with the voting. Instead, they are going to grade each submission on the four criteria I had mentioned earlier. My guess is they will have an intern assigned to go through all the tracks and filter it down to a high quality selection which they will then score.

2) Runner-Up(s) (Indaba pro for a year). This is based on popular vote. The top ten vote getters will be be reviewed, also by HDTA I think, and they will select three to be runner-up winners, who will receive a pro subscription to Indaba for a year.

It's also possible that the 10 from (2) will end up being the tracks under consideration for (1), but I'd like to think they actually have at least one person listen to all of them. I think they recognize that online popularity contests are not the best way to find the top quality submissions.

I really hope you're right about that being as i have roughly 10 plays total(if that) on each one of these
anyway, i'd really appreciate people listening to these and giving me some feedback on them


On The Wing (n30fr05t remix) (http://indaba.us/jCfT) (i was going for something that the average listener wouldn't really notice the difference, but would like more; very subtle changes)

How Long? (n30fr05t remix) (http://indaba.us/bDMQ) (an orchestral remix using just string quartet and the vocals, along with some environmental sounds)


and hope you enjoy listening

Reaps
05-21-2013, 12:26 PM
Turns out i had the time to remix a track so i chose 'How Long?'

http://indaba.us/pD11

Reaps
05-22-2013, 11:46 AM
You can link to your submission. In fact, that's encouraged if you want to get Facebook votes. What you aren't supposed to do is also post your submission to soundcloud or some other host.

Hosting a remix on soundcloud/other is allowed only if you own the material you worked on.

If it includes copyrighted material you do not own, you won't be able to. That's what i read in the rules.
If it's true and you can't host a track even if you own the material you worked on, can i have a link to the official statement.

bgalbraith
05-22-2013, 02:36 PM
Hosting a remix on soundcloud/other is allowed only if you own the material you worked on.

If it includes copyrighted material you do not own, you won't be able to. That's what i read in the rules.
If it's true and you can't host a track even if you own the material you worked on, can i have a link to the official statement.

The way I read it, if you used any of the stems (which you have to for it to be a valid entry), you now have included copyrighted material you don't own, thus the rule applies.

Also, from the terms:


By entering this Contest, Entrants assign away and transfer (as set forth below) any and all rights in the Remixes on a worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable and royalty-free basis, for any and all purposes including, but not limited to, display, public performance, posting for streaming and/or download, making of derivative works, reproduction, distribution, and all other means of exploitation of the Remixes. Entrants agree that the Artist, or a designee of Artist, shall, from inception, own all right, title and interest in each Remix (including, but not limited to, the copyrights in the sound recording) in perpetuity, free from any claims by Entrant or any other person and all such works shall be deemed "works made for hire" for the Artist or such designee. Entrants shall have no ownership rights or interest whatsoever in the applicable Remix, and shall not commercially use or exploit the Remix in any manner whatsoever. Entrant is permitted to use the Audio Assets solely for the creation of Submission Materials and Remixes and participation in this Contest.

So you assign away all rights to the work. I doubt, however, that anyone will actually try to stop you from re-using your own works created for the remix (aside from the stems) should it not be selected.

Bonedwarf
05-22-2013, 05:48 PM
Here are my instrumental mixes in glorious 24/48 flac http://ul.to/f/it9mlj obviously i made them for you, not for contest

Thank you! Would love to find some stems for "Ice Age". Hell, all the other tracks, but mostly that one.

bgalbraith
05-22-2013, 11:46 PM
Added another! This time it's a gameboy chiptune remix of Strings and Attractors.
http://indaba.us/jDFq

Schmillbick
05-23-2013, 08:52 PM
Hi everyone !

Here's an orchestral remix by a friend, it's awesome :) Enjoy !

http://indaba.us/cCf6

n30fr05t
05-25-2013, 02:39 AM
i'll be uploading an edited version of my Strings and Attractors remix soon
just wanted to emphasize that I would greatly appreciate getting some feedback
i have spent at least 12 hours plus on each individual remix (probably a lot more, but to be honest i lost count)
so, if you could take the time to listen to them i would really appreciate it

n30fr05t
05-25-2013, 03:42 AM
here it is :)
my Strings and Attractors remix:

Strings and Attractors (n30fr05t remix) (http://indaba.us/aDBt)

hope you listen to it and enjoy it

eversonpoe
05-26-2013, 11:07 AM
here it is :)
my Strings and Attractors remix:

Strings and Attractors (n30fr05t remix) (http://indaba.us/aDBt)

hope you listen to it and enjoy it

it's kind of jarring and uncomfortable, honestly. if that's what you were going for, then ok. but i didn't really enjoy listening to it.

(i'm really not trying to be a jerk. just being 100% honest. i understand your frustration with wanting people to listen to and enjoy your music. i make music. i have several albums, most of which are free to download, and i can't even get my friends to listen to them. but you're making remixes of other people's work, and there are SO MANY other people doing that, so it's not surprising you're not getting that many plays.)

wizfan
05-29-2013, 03:19 AM
How many hours is it until the contest closes? Do I still have time to enter? I couldn't work on the remix for weeks, but I'm getting back on track.

EDIT: Eight hours left. I just finished my remix and am uploading it right now. I'm so excited to share it with you guys!

wizfan
05-29-2013, 08:45 AM
Sorry for the double post, but my "Last Minute" remix is up! http://indaba.us/tFVv

pushingreality
05-29-2013, 04:30 PM
Like a kid finishing up his term paper right before class, here's my submission for How Long?: http://indaba.us/qFb6

bgalbraith
05-29-2013, 05:19 PM
Voting time! I've made a handy collection of ETS user submissions so you can easily vote for all of us :D If I missed one of yours, let me know the shortcut indaba url and I'll add it to the list.
You have to use Facebook to vote though...

@bgalbraith (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=10)
On the Wing - http://indaba.us/aBji
How Long? - http://indaba.us/iFGb
Strings and Attractors - http://indaba.us/jDFq

@wizfan (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=94)
On the Wing - http://indaba.us/tFVv

@n30fr05t (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=2665)
On the Wing - http://indaba.us/pFdr (http://indaba.us/jCfT)
How Long? - http://indaba.us/bDMQ
Strings and Attractors - http://indaba.us/aDBt

@Reaps (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=761)
How Long? - http://indaba.us/pD11

@[carbon] (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=2238)
On the Wing - http://indaba.us/rBW8
How Long? - http://indaba.us/r7rg

@erasemoi (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1354)
Strings and Attractors - http://indaba.us/hFmf

@DVYDRNS (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=132)
How Long? - http://indaba.us/i87c

@ecirb (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=209)
How Long? - http://indaba.us/q895

@pushingreality (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=36)
How Long? - http://indaba.us/fFNc

Indefinite_Cure
05-29-2013, 05:33 PM
Didn't know the time limit was at 17pm eastern time, missed submission time by 15 minutes dang it...

This is more frustrating then it appears

TomVX
05-29-2013, 07:10 PM
Didn't know the time limit was at 17pm eastern time, missed submission time by 15 minutes dang it...

This is more frustrating then it appears

RIGHT????? The same thing happened to me. Fuck it, everyone can have it. I put a lot of work into this one... Let me know what you guys think.

https://soundcloud.com/tomvx/htda-how-long-crashed-burned

neorev
05-30-2013, 01:13 AM
This is my friend/musical collaborator Susan a.k.a. It Was July's amazing remix of "Strings And Attractors"

http://f0.bcbits.com/z/29/24/2924463310-1.jpg
https://beta.indabamusic.com/opportunities/how-to-destroy-angels-welcome-oblivion-remix-contest-strings-and-attractors/submissions/4d528960-c7d4-11e2-80d2-12313d026137?sort=hottest

She's an amazing vocalist and producer. You can find her original work here: http://itwasjuly.bandcamp.com

Unfortunately, I didn't have time to submit my own remix... I was trying my hand at "On A Wing"

Susan and I met on the official NIN's forums, she stumbled upon my music thread on the "Your Music" section of the forums and asked about collaborating on something. So we came up with this... http://neorev.bandcamp.com/track/no-control-featuring-it-was-july

wizfan
05-30-2013, 04:45 AM
Good luck, everyone!

Wait, the Indaba accounts only last for one year? Even the free ones? Lame.

colton
05-30-2013, 10:49 AM
just missed this contest and the DL links seem to be disabled. does anyone have the zip files that they could share?

Reaps
05-30-2013, 03:22 PM
It seems getting votes through facebook is pretty tough going, i've nearly 1k of followers on there an most of them are put off by voting because of Indaba wanting full access to their facebook page. It puts me in a bad light for trying to get them to do it as well.

Of course it could have nothing to do with this and it may just be because i've put out a shit remix.

Hope everyone else is doing well though.

Indefinite_Cure
05-30-2013, 03:50 PM
It was so frustrating to have put effort on a mix and miss the deadline by 15 minutes that I put it up on soundcloud for your enjoyment, it'll be there as long as I don't get anything telling me to remove it: https://soundcloud.com/indefinitecure/strings-and-attractors

bgalbraith
05-30-2013, 04:46 PM
It seems getting votes through facebook is pretty tough going, i've nearly 1k of followers on there an most of them are put off by voting because of Indaba wanting full access to their facebook page. It puts me in a bad light for trying to get them to do it as well.

Of course it could have nothing to do with this and it may just be because i've put out a shit remix.

Hope everyone else is doing well though.

I let it have access to the friends list, but I keep forbidding it access to post on my behalf (it asks every time I vote and I just keep selecting skip). It's really obnoxious and I bet that turns a lot of people off. I voted for all ETS remixes as a way to at least bump people up (you can and should vote for yourself as well if you haven't).

I'd love it if we got to see our scores from the grand prize evaluations (not related to facebook votes), but I doubt that gets released.

wizfan
05-30-2013, 09:19 PM
I have it, though I compressed it to FLAC (still 24-48, of course). PM'ing.

bgalbraith
05-30-2013, 09:44 PM
If my counting is correct, the submission totals are:

On the Wing - 295
How Long? - 492
Strings and Attractors - 460

Assuming an average track length of 4:24 (the average of the three source songs) gives you about 91.5 hours or 3.8 days worth of continuous remixes. I don't envy the people who have to wade through all that to find the winning entries.

BRoswell
05-31-2013, 01:32 AM
ToToM (who did the awesome Bootleg Is Resistance series of mashups) did a mashup of all three tracks, plus a few Nine Inch Nails tracks:

http://soundcloud.com/totom/how-to-destroy-angels-how-long

Torgo
05-31-2013, 02:28 PM
Ahahaha... it extremely amusing to see some of the people that are ranked in the top three for each song are completely terrible. Like - you know they had to have use some sort of hack to get up there in the popular vote? Right?...

I mean, come on - one of them has a guy adding his own vocals to it while the other is some sort of latin inspired, beat missing cover of the song.

DVYDRNS
05-31-2013, 03:12 PM
The whole stupid thing is a joke. I promptly put my version on soundcloud because I dgaf.

BRoswell
05-31-2013, 03:26 PM
Ahahaha... it extremely amusing to see some of the people that are ranked in the top three for each song are completely terrible. Like - you know they had to have use some sort of hack to get up there in the popular vote? Right?...

I mean, come on - one of them has a guy adding his own vocals to it while the other is some sort of latin inspired, beat missing cover of the song.

Then again, one man's trash is another man's treasure.

bgalbraith
05-31-2013, 04:04 PM
Ahahaha... it extremely amusing to see some of the people that are ranked in the top three for each song are completely terrible. Like - you know they had to have use some sort of hack to get up there in the popular vote? Right?...

I mean, come on - one of them has a guy adding his own vocals to it while the other is some sort of latin inspired, beat missing cover of the song.

This is exactly why the actual winner ($500 prize) is supposed to be based on a scoring of the track's merits in four categories. Winning the popularity contest only gets you a free year of Indaba Pro, which, whatever. And even to win that, HTDA gets to pick three from the top ten, so just because someone managed to convince more people to install the stupid voting app in facebook than anyone else doesn't guarantee they get anything.

wizfan
06-01-2013, 06:36 AM
I did get a lot of my friends to vote for me. I am currently 8th on the popular vote category (and will most likely fall until the voting closes). I did like a few of the remixes I heard in there, but some of the most-voted, most-played and commented on ones sound lazy at best. People like me and DVYDRNS composed the whole thing ourselves and only kept the vocal stems. I mean, sure, mine may not be a very good remix. After all, it's the first remix I ever did. But at least I put some fucking effort on it, and tried to make it as listenable and fresh as possible. The ones that get the most attention feel like slightly tweaked rehashes of the originals. The only thing that assures me is that HTDA themselves will have the final word on both prizes.

I wish everyone the best, but Indaba's system needs to be improved. The current version of their site is still in its beta phase, and, in my opinion, wasn't ready for this sort of thing.

TomVX
06-01-2013, 09:53 AM
I did get a lot of my friends to vote for me. I am currently 8th on the popular vote category (and will most likely fall until the voting closes). I did like a few of the remixes I heard in there, but some of the most-voted, most-played and commented on ones sound lazy at best. People like me and @DVYDRNS (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=132) composed the whole thing ourselves and only kept the vocal stems. I mean, sure, mine may not be a very good remix. After all, it's the first remix I ever did. But at least I put some fucking effort on it, and tried to make it as listenable and fresh as possible. The ones that get the most attention feel like slightly tweaked rehashes of the originals. The only thing that assures me is that HTDA themselves will have the final word on both prizes.

I wish everyone the best, but Indaba's system needs to be improved. The current version of their site is still in its beta phase, and, in my opinion, wasn't ready for this sort of thing.


Same here with the "only keep the vocal stems" approach (although i also lifted the "snare" sound for the end section)... not that there is anything WRONG with keeping more of the track than that, it's just not my style. I'd love to hear your version, you should put a link to it up! Here's mine... https://soundcloud.com/tomvx/htda-how-long-crashed-burned

Indaba has been around for a couple years now.... beta or no they should have their systems worked out by now. I'm not going to knock them too hard though, they DID give us the opportunity to remix this!

wizfan
06-01-2013, 10:00 AM
Look for bgalbraith's last post in the previous page, all ETS member remixes are listed there, including mine.

pushingreality
06-02-2013, 04:35 PM
Indaba seems to be a more social ACIDplanet. I signed up for Indaba a while back for the Scott Pilgrim remix contest but never entered, so this is my first time seeing how this all plays out. I used to be prevalent on ACIDplanet years ago when Vrenna was hosting the Tweaker remix competitions. There were popular people who went around commenting on everything to get listens/plays; they just enter every single thing and have their following comment/circlejerk about how great it is even though it's honestly a mediocre track. With Indaba, it's more of the same, except now there's a voting system in place to actually move tracks around. Indaba's layout is good for people to randomly and easily go through tracks and listen/vote; I've barely promoted mine and it's getting plays/votes/comments/etc (not sure if that's ETS at work or random people though). I think it's better than hosting it on remix.nin.com, because The Social Network remix thing resulted in people going around giving out zeroes to every track and lowering score averages.

I'll also echo what people are saying here about the overall quality. I went through and listened to several "popular" tracks and...yeah. But, different strokes for different folks. However, it's important to keep a level head about it. If you're proud of your own work, that's what counts. It shouldn't be measured by hours of time spent or votes tallied. It's nice to feel validated by comments and whatnot, but it's also good to challenge yourself with these sorts of things, take criticism in stride, and learn from the whole experience so as to apply it to other competitions/personal recordings.

InversePhase
06-10-2013, 06:49 PM
Late to the post party, but I didn't submit to this because of the ownership and "don't post anywhere else" clauses, and also because I didn't actually want to submit a remix using the stems. That way I can do an HTDA project in the future. =] But my best wishes and good luck to anyone that entered!

n30fr05t
06-10-2013, 07:02 PM
If you haven't gotten a chance to check out my remixes, i'd appreciate you taking the time to listen/vote for them. I tried to make each remix sound more like NIN but without using guitar(s), so I hope you enjoy them:

Strings and Attractors (n30fr05t remix): http://indaba.us/aDBt (http://indaba.us/aDBt)

On The Wing (n30fr05t remix): http://indaba.us/gF28 (http://indaba.us/gF28)

How Long? (n30fr05t remix): http://indaba.us/cDC9 (http://indaba.us/cDC9)


and, if you've already listened to them/voted for them, thank you for the support

shagg_187
06-13-2013, 07:17 AM
All files are 24-bit/48kHz WAV.


DOWNLOAD (https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4uLRvbL70w9WmJYdEtEaFJVZGM&usp=sharing)
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How long? | (7) basic stems | 150MB
How long? (Advanced pack) | (30) advanced stems | 671MB (rezipped from 687MB)

On the wing | (5) basic stems | 154MB
On the wing (Advanced pack 1) | (13) advanced stems; (5) extra stems | 813MB
On the wing (Advanced pack 2) | (13) advanced stems | 359MB

Strings and attractors | (4) basic stems | 118MB
Strings and attractors (Advanced pack) | (15) advanced stems; (3) extra stems | 761MB
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Hi! Thanks for this! The link is dead though... :(

Anyone else can upload the files for "on the wing"? Thank you in advance!

jmtd
06-13-2013, 11:40 AM
Hi! Thanks for this! The link is dead though... :(

Anyone else can upload the files for "on the wing"? Thank you in advance!

If I can get a copy I'll see about seeding a torrent for a long while.

wizfan
06-27-2013, 06:58 PM
Winners will be announced on July 3! Good luck, everyone!

wizfan
07-02-2013, 10:37 PM
Announcement pushed back to July 10. I guess they're not done listening to every single remix.

bgalbraith
07-09-2013, 05:01 PM
Hooray! Another week delay!
I like how they wait until 5 minutes before the deadline to shift it back. What are they doing?

Huh, never mind. Looks like that is just an automated trigger if they haven't pushed the winners by a certain time. Looks like they are posted now.

katara
07-16-2013, 03:38 AM
Strings & Attractors: I think I like this more than the original. Great stuff.

On The Wing remix really picks up after the first half. I like this, but maybe it's a little long and sparse at the beginning. Nice to see a familiar name; melodywhore was on the old tweaker message boards and was a runner-up in two tweaker remixes contests over on acidplanet.com

How Long?: Kind of... dubstep-inspired? It's very in-your-face and bombastic, and feels like it's clipping horribly, and not in a cool way. Can't stand this.

melodywhore
07-30-2013, 12:39 PM
thanks for the comments and the shout-out! i entered all three contests and i didn't have the extra stems as i am just a lowly basic account holder at indaba.

if you're interested in checking 'em out, here is my indaba page: https://beta.indabamusic.com/people/melodywhore?tab=overview

on the wing, i completed first. i didn't follow the original's structure as i was going for an extended version. sparse is usually what you'll find coming from me as i enjoy taking the minimalist approach... or at least leading to some built-up cacophony. i used reason 7 as my main daw and fucked shit up in sound forge when appropriate. one of the truly interesting things about this remix is the intro/verse resonant synth you hear is actually a loop of trent's vocal running through reason's alligator filter. the bottomless bass is provided by that wonderful korg polysix rack extension. in the mid part, i combined some of the original noise with my own elements doing some old-fashioned ACID chopping and slicing here and there. the "live" sounding drums kind of reminded me of vrenna for some reason and that is why it is in there.

how long was a more direct approach using mostly just the vocals. i thought that the contrasted feels between the verse and chorus made it a bit more challenging. on all of these, actually. i think it was this mix that i struggled with the chorus drums because the original sounded so great... and having it as a place-holder was probably not helping.

strings and attractors i almost didn't do. but i chose to go for a more unconventional mix.

all in all, it was a decent contest. it certainly is humbling to be chosen as one of the winners. especially considering reznor's one of my major influences. one of the hardest things i had to do was keep this under my hat for FIVE days... i was notified on july 3rd but didn't see the email until the 4th and i couldn't say anything to anyone about it until it was announced on the 9th. drove me nuts. one of the things i like about indaba over acidplanet is it's a site more focused on opportunities. acidplanet was more focused on the acid software and anything you made with it (essentially... users were never limited to using just acid in order to participate in that community).

i wonder if indaba will be hosting a NIN remix contest after the new album is released.

tiempo
07-30-2013, 09:22 PM
The Social Network remix thing resulted in people going around giving out zeroes to every track and lowering score averages.


I'll also echo what people are saying here about the overall quality. I went through and listened to several "popular" tracks and...yeah. But, different strokes for different folks. However, it's important to keep a level head about it. If you're proud of your own work, that's what counts. It shouldn't be measured by hours of time spent or votes tallied. It's nice to feel validated by comments and whatnot, but it's also good to challenge yourself with these sorts of things, take criticism in stride, and learn from the whole experience so as to apply it to other competitions/personal recordings.

I swear there are a couple remixer's who made it a full time job to rate other people's mixes down. I got a lot of good feedback too, but there seemed to be a lot of negativity in the remix community. Ninremixes.com was even worse...

Since 94, I have been trying to decipher what sounds were that Trent was using. Couldn't count how many hours I spent on TDS and TF in my headphones. I spent many an hour making music dreaming I was in NOLA hanging at Nothing Studios and a chance to peek behind the curtain/into the vaults. To think we would have all of the song stems that we do now, and all of the new tricks we all learned remixing some of those tracks I would never believe it. Seeing how song stems are still a rarity from bands, I still can't believe that a majority of ones out there are from Trent!

Criticism is tough but your work is only a part of you and not what defines you as a human. Everybody has different creative levels and for me the joy is in the making. I love constructive criticism and usually welcome it. Honest input is really hard to get and if coming from the right person/place can be invaluable. As I get older, any other criticism isn't as stinging.

sirry
08-11-2013, 05:18 AM
Does anybody know if there are plans for the multitracks to be u/l'd onto remix.nin.com or NINRemixes.com? I had them saved on my laptop until my friend dropped it & busted my Hard Drive. I would be Soooo grateful for any help!!!

_miles
08-11-2013, 10:11 PM
My band missed the deadline. But here it is anyways! https://soundcloud.com/threehives/strings-and-attractors-remix

VALC0NE
08-18-2013, 04:41 PM
Could anybody PM me a download for the multitracks?
Much appreciated.

trollmanen
08-27-2013, 12:41 AM
Did they ever announce winners or the remixes the band chose as their favorites?

trollmanen
09-03-2013, 11:17 PM
I'm guessing that's a no.

wizfan
09-03-2013, 11:48 PM
Of course they were. Check back to the Indaba pages for each song contest. They added a category called Winners.

Avarik
12-13-2014, 02:13 AM
Bump
Does anyone have high quality files of the winning 3 mixes? Ripping the website is 192kbps

BRoswell
12-17-2016, 08:07 PM
Does anyone still have the multitracks from this contest? I lost my copy last year and have been trying to hunt them down since then with no luck.

bgalbraith
12-17-2016, 10:45 PM
I should still have them on an old computer. Will have to check


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

BRoswell
12-17-2016, 11:18 PM
I should still have them on an old computer. Will have to check


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Someone already hooked me up, but thanks!

r_z
12-27-2016, 06:20 PM
I'm, too, looking for those multitracks. Had them but apparently lost them when my hard disk crashed a couple weeks ago... :(

ninjaw
12-28-2016, 01:41 PM
I'm, too, looking for those multitracks. Had them but apparently lost them when my hard disk crashed a couple weeks ago... :(

Here you go, 7 files, 3GB.

http://jheberg.net/captcha/how-long-advanced-pack/
http://jheberg.net/captcha/how-to-destroy-angels-welcome-oblivion-remix-conte/
http://jheberg.net/captcha/how-to-destroy-angels-welcome-oblivion-remix-con-2/
http://jheberg.net/captcha/how-to-destroy-angels-welcome-oblivion-remix-con-3/
http://jheberg.net/captcha/on-the-wing-advanced-pack-1/
http://jheberg.net/captcha/on-the-wing-advanced-pack-2/
http://jheberg.net/captcha/strings-and-attractors-advanced-pack/

MAD
12-30-2016, 07:11 AM
Thanks for the links. I will do some remixes in the next couple of weeks.

untold
12-30-2016, 07:24 AM
does anyone have the remix of the contest winners ?

untold
12-30-2016, 07:37 AM
nevermind i found how to download them

MAD
01-03-2017, 11:57 AM
does anyone have the remix of the contest winners ?
Do you know where that list currently is? The Indaba link is not loading for me at all.

untold
01-03-2017, 12:14 PM
strings & attractors
https://beta.indabamusic.com/…/how-to-destroy-angels-welcom… (https://beta.indabamusic.com/opportunities/how-to-destroy-angels-welcome-oblivion-remix-contest-strings-and-attractors)

how long?
https://beta.indabamusic.com/…/how-to-destroy-angels-welcom… (https://beta.indabamusic.com/opportunities/how-to-destroy-angels-welcome-oblivion-remix-contest-how-long)

on the wing
https://beta.indabamusic.com/…/how-to-destroy-angels-welcom… (https://beta.indabamusic.com/opportunities/how-to-destroy-angels-welcome-oblivion-remix-contest-on-the-wing)

epsey
08-02-2018, 09:30 PM
Does anyone have a copy of the multitrack advanced packs? I'm looking for the folders of extras that have the demo materials and outtakes.

ninjaw
08-03-2018, 03:00 AM
Does anyone have a copy of the multitrack advanced packs? I'm looking for the folders of extras that have the demo materials and outtakes.

I just tested links a few post right up and they still work ??

BRoswell
08-03-2018, 03:55 AM
I just tested links a few post right up and they still work ??

The downloads themselves don't work though.

ninjaw
08-03-2018, 04:11 AM
The downloads themselves don't work though.

Oh yeah ? strange ! they were showing like still up. I'm in work right now.

ninjaw
08-04-2018, 01:30 AM
Does anyone have a copy of the multitrack advanced packs? I'm looking for the folders of extras that have the demo materials and outtakes.

Here's a new big upload 7 files 3GB (with the very powerful freeware Jdownloader, simply copy these links and it will handle everything)

http://jheberg.net/captcha/how-long-advanced-pack-2/
http://jheberg.net/captcha/on-the-wing-advanced-pack-1-2/
http://jheberg.net/captcha/on-the-wing-advanced-pack-2-2/
http://jheberg.net/captcha/strings-and-attractors-advanced-pack-2/
http://jheberg.net/captcha/how-to-destroy-angels-welcome-oblivion-remix-con-4/
http://jheberg.net/captcha/how-to-destroy-angels-welcome-oblivion-remix-con-5/
http://jheberg.net/captcha/how-to-destroy-angels-welcome-oblivion-remix-con-6/

epsey
08-04-2018, 02:36 PM
Awesome! Thanks for uploading those again.