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orestes
03-29-2013, 08:15 PM
http://www.seetickets.com/content/reading-leeds?src=randlf2013BN40

Trains
06-30-2013, 11:04 AM
So who's going to be at Reading/Leeds this year? I'm very, very tempted to go just for the Sunday. At the moment it looks like it might be just me on my lonesome unless I can convince one of my friends to come along. What's the consensus on going solo at festivals, is it a lonely experience?

bowler_hat
07-03-2013, 06:52 AM
I'm going to both Reading and Leeds (Day tix just for the NIN days). I've never been to a festival on my own but wouldn't have a problem doing so. If you're in the crowd then you'll soon get talking to people inbetween bands (just stay away from the drunken idiots!). It is a long day to spend solo though so I'd probably go mid afternoon. Safety wise it's probably worth keeping close to groups of people when you leave the arena.

slave2thewage
07-03-2013, 07:20 AM
I did solo for Oxegen in 2009. More or less - my friend met me there but he fucked off for four hours and came back just before Jane's Addiction to get to where I was (I was in the Trent Spot). It's a long day, but there were two others who did all-day with me in the middle and we had a great time. It's not all bad!

Scarlet Siren
07-03-2013, 10:59 AM
Same. Going to both on my own(and Belfast). Never had an issue finding people to speak to/hang out with. In fact, I've met some awesome friends this way and have been friends for years and attend other shows together.

This can't come round soon enough!

Highly Psychological
07-03-2013, 12:10 PM
Im going to go, out of principle, obviously not thrilled as i know the state of the Reading Festival these days but should be good. Its unfortunate to say the least im going to have to sit through Fall Out Boy who are on before NIN lol, Radical transition No? Oh well waited through Lost Prophets last time. But got too drunk.
But NIN at the 2007 Reading show, it was possibly the best time i ever saw them live, such an incredible atmosphere. way way better than i expected, shocked how good it turned out, there are some good youtube clips of it, it was absolutely wonderful, had such low expectations, and they drew a bigger crowd than The Smashing Pumpkins who were headlining above them. Weather was gorgeous, hopefully it will turn out similar this time.
The line up for Reading Festival this year is just a woeful and seems like it is aimed at a 14 year old boy in 2001.
System of a Down who have not released an album for nearly 10 years, Greenday, Eminem , Fall Out Boy etc...

bowler_hat
08-15-2013, 07:21 AM
Set times appear to have been leaked and show NIN getting 1 hour 20 minutes. Interestingly Filter finish there set 40 mins before NIN go on. I wonder if we're in for anything special?

WorzelG
08-15-2013, 03:55 PM
I'm really glad NIN on aren't on before Eminem because his fans seem like absolute arseholes (I went to see the film eight mile years ago and the audience were the biggest pile of twats I've ever seen in one place). I get the impression Biffy Clyro fans are ok - I hope

Scarlet Siren
08-17-2013, 06:32 PM
So how many of us here are going to this?

zsorzs
08-18-2013, 05:04 AM
I will be there (and Milan few days later this)

Scarlet Siren
08-18-2013, 05:22 AM
I will be there (and Milan few days later this)

I'm going to Milan also! :D see you there!

zsorzs
08-18-2013, 05:32 AM
see you :)

bowler_hat
08-18-2013, 06:13 AM
I'm at Leeds, Reading and Milan.

[Shep]
08-18-2013, 09:54 AM
I'm at Leeds, Reading and Milan.

Jealous! The only one I can make it to is Leeds.
Bring on Tension 2014!

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[Shep]
08-19-2013, 10:11 AM
NIN getting 90 min set, 19.30 - 21.00.

bowler_hat
08-21-2013, 07:35 AM
Looks like there will be live streaming of the full NIN set at Reading

Sunday
Main Stage: 14.05 – 23.30

http://www.readingfestival.com/news/...e-coverage-bbc (http://www.readingfestival.com/news/dont-miss-any-action-onsite-best-live-coverage-bbc)

and http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/ezc5d4

kercyx
08-25-2013, 06:30 AM
Looks like there will be live streaming of the full NIN set at Reading

Sunday
Main Stage: 14.05 – 23.30

http://www.readingfestival.com/news/...e-coverage-bbc (http://www.readingfestival.com/news/dont-miss-any-action-onsite-best-live-coverage-bbc)

and http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/ezc5d4

Is it really the full set or only 2/3 songs ?

GavinCollins420
08-25-2013, 08:23 AM
No mention of a NIN stream on that site. I'll keep checking back regardless. If not, here's hoping for some highlights on BBC3/Red button.

MacabreMagpie
08-25-2013, 10:57 AM
Well, they're (apparently) streaming the Main Stage, which NIN are on, until 23:30 so stands to reason that their set will be included.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/ezc5d4#p01fl6tb

MacabreMagpie
08-25-2013, 11:01 AM
Interesting tweets from Trent just now...

"Should be an unusual show tonight at Reading..."
"...the lying promoter and the band following us (whoever the fuck they are) fucked us on our production."

Arkadin
08-25-2013, 11:02 AM
Looks like TR is seething over the restrictions placed on them at Reading, if the latest tweets are any indication. It's a bad situation, because if the promoter violated the contract, then I suppose they could pull out, but then the attending NIN fans get screwed.

billpulsipher
08-25-2013, 11:03 AM
so kiss goodbye a chance for a stream

MacabreMagpie
08-25-2013, 11:08 AM
Maybe we'll get an old-school angry NIN performance.

They might also play some rare tracks if they're restricted with their production... so fingers crossed for that stream. No reason they shouldn't be on if they're streaming the Main Stage all night.

PUNCHLINE
08-25-2013, 11:13 AM
The last time I remember him being pissed off at playing such an event was Sonisphere a few years back when we got a REALLY weird setlist, so anything is possible. Shame for a lot of people expecting the festival stage/light show they've been doing recently :-(
Did they use the full lightshow at Leeds the other night?

billpulsipher
08-25-2013, 11:14 AM
Deftones and System of a Down were on the main stage Friday night and weren't streamed because the bands wouldn't allow it....If TR is this pissed and with no light show, he may just say fuck it...I would like to see them with no light show and in a pissed off mood, so hopefully it does get streamed...

GavinCollins420
08-25-2013, 11:17 AM
I imagine it was the exact same story at Leeds as we got no production and one angry setlist.

Kyle
08-25-2013, 11:21 AM
The last time I remember him being pissed off at playing such an event was Sonisphere a few years back when we got a REALLY weird setlist, so anything is possible. Shame for a lot of people expecting the festival stage/light show they've been doing recently :-(
Did they use the full lightshow at Leeds the other night?

If that's the one I'm thinking of, I don't think he was really pissed off. I think he was just looking at the bands he was playing with and decided not to try to compete with them on the heavy front and just go the opposite route.

Actually, I found the direct quote from Trent

We played a purposely quiet, intimate set. I figured it would either enrage or baffle the metal audience... but to our amazement it went over great! Really fun set to play in that environment.

PUNCHLINE
08-25-2013, 11:24 AM
If that's the one I'm thinking of, I don't think he was really pissed off. I think he was just looking at the bands he was playing with and decided not to try to compete with them on the heavy front and just go the opposite route.

Actually, I found the direct quote from Trent

We played a purposely quiet, intimate set. I figured it would either enrage or baffle the metal audience... but to our amazement it went over great! Really fun set to play in that environment.

Ah thats the one, my memory is bad..but the Sonisphere show was a mess, lol, the setlist and footage from Leeds looks great, angry simple songs!

Scarlet Siren
08-25-2013, 11:24 AM
I'm out in the crowd, excited and nervous about tonight :-/

Hopefully by the time the guys come on I'll be at the barrier.

halo33
08-25-2013, 11:33 AM
Every new band I accidentally hear at these festivals sound like Arcade Fire and/or Mumford & Sons.

MacabreMagpie
08-25-2013, 12:00 PM
If that's the one I'm thinking of, I don't think he was really pissed off. I think he was just looking at the bands he was playing with and decided not to try to compete with them on the heavy front and just go the opposite route.

Actually, I found the direct quote from Trent

We played a purposely quiet, intimate set. I figured it would either enrage or baffle the metal audience... but to our amazement it went over great! Really fun set to play in that environment.

Ah, looks like the chances of them playing Download one year are slim, then.

PUNCHLINE
08-25-2013, 01:27 PM
no live stream, and an unusual setlist coming up apparently..!

Sarah K
08-25-2013, 01:33 PM
I cannot wait to hear the story behind all of this... T-Rez is gonna be so ragey. <3

MrSlfDstruct
08-25-2013, 02:02 PM
Shit, hopefully somebody captures this. I can't wait to see the setlist.

Pablo66
08-25-2013, 02:05 PM
I think because it's going to be "different", is exactly why they should have gone ahead with the live stream... :confused:

MacabreMagpie
08-25-2013, 02:14 PM
Can only assume that Trent didn't want it filmed as it wouldn't be an accurate representation of their live show.... an absolute shame but understandable, being a protective artist and that.

They seem to have a criminally small crowd though...

https://twitter.com/Ceegman/status/371708489284194304/photo/1

MacabreMagpie
08-25-2013, 02:17 PM
Downside of skimming the tweets on Twitter for a setlist... catching all the bemused teenyboppers asking who "Nine Inch Nails" are and commenting on how much they suck. GRRR!

fannyb
08-25-2013, 02:18 PM
Could be nonsense, but someone on Twitter has just said they could hear Copy of A in the background of the BBC coverage.

Didn't expect that to be played tbh.

ryanp16
08-25-2013, 02:20 PM
Guy I know says his friend at the gig said Copy of A was played

filmfanb
08-25-2013, 02:22 PM
so annoyed with there no stream

rob sheridan quote
It's also the most unusually-structured setlist I've ever seen. Should be interesting

ryanp16
08-25-2013, 02:25 PM
so annoyed with there no stream

rob sheridan quote
It's also the most unusually-structured setlist I've ever seen. Should be interesting

It's not so weird so far. I'm told

Copy of A
New song; probably Disappointed
CBH
Sanctified with green lasers

FernandoDante
08-25-2013, 02:25 PM
Well they certainly played Copy of A


http://instagram.com/p/dcnyF6xEPK/

fannyb
08-25-2013, 02:25 PM
Wish I'd gone Reading rather than Leeds.... Sigh

MacabreMagpie
08-25-2013, 02:30 PM
According to BBC3's twitter account, there will be "audio highlights".

ryanp16
08-25-2013, 02:32 PM
I'm told "Something dull, then Me I'm Not"

PUNCHLINE
08-25-2013, 02:35 PM
I'm told "Something dull, then Me I'm Not"

;):D "something dull", lol...

So far we have Copy Of A, CBH, Sanctified, Me Im Not, etc.. have they played any "traditional" songs with the full band yet?(if you know what I mean?) An all electronic type set would be interesting indeed...

miss k bee
08-25-2013, 02:38 PM
According to BBC3's twitter account, there will be "audio highlights".


Waaaht??? tsk BBC3!

Fist Fuck
08-25-2013, 02:47 PM
Sarah Burdikin ‏@MrsBurdikin (https://twitter.com/MrsBurdikin)4m (https://twitter.com/MrsBurdikin/status/371718938163679232)
And what the fuck are Nine Inch Nails about, not what I expected at all, have up to watch an unknown band



I'll just leave this here.

ryanp16
08-25-2013, 02:47 PM
"I normally like NIN but this is complete shite.
It's all a bunch of drum samples and Trent warbling over the top
This is so shit bro, people are leaving"


"Fuck they just woke up and riffed!
An hour into the set?"


From someone else that isn't my setlist source

ryanp16
08-25-2013, 02:49 PM
Somewhat Damaged played

Butterscotch
08-25-2013, 02:50 PM
I'll just leave this here.

Rage.... building....

GavinCollins420
08-25-2013, 02:52 PM
According to Twitter, Trent said 'fuck rock and roll by the way' whilst on stage.

also an Instagram video of someone making a teddy headbang to Terrible Lie, so that was played.

joplinpicasso
08-25-2013, 02:55 PM
Ha, uh, what exactly is going on over there?

Fist Fuck
08-25-2013, 03:01 PM
ha, uh, what exactly is going on over there?

#shite2013

Highly Psychological
08-25-2013, 03:07 PM
its kind of like if Nine Inch Nails played the vans Warped tour in the U.S

Butterscotch
08-25-2013, 03:09 PM
its kind of like if Nine Inch Nails played the vans Warped tour in the U.S

I remember some of the lineups they had at Warped Tour when I was younger. I probably would have liked to go to a few of them.

But I saw the lineup for the latest one, and it looked like a shite sandwich.(we should use "shite sandwich" as much as possible)

ryanp16
08-25-2013, 03:26 PM
Apparently they ended with Wish. No Hurt, Head Like A Hole, Closer or Hand That Feeds!

ryanp16
08-25-2013, 03:51 PM
Copy Of A
Disappointed
Came Back Haunted
Sanctified
Find My Way
Me, I'm Not
The Warning
Somewhat Damaged
The Beginning Of The End
Terrible Lie
March Of The Pigs
Survivalism
Burn
Gave Up
Wish

filmfanb
08-25-2013, 04:01 PM
feels like the first half of two different sets

voidnz
08-25-2013, 04:05 PM
They didn't play their 4 biggest hits at a festival. Strange decision.

Vrolok1
08-25-2013, 04:05 PM
feels like the first half of two different sets
Anyway it was interesting, haha

noneofthem
08-25-2013, 04:12 PM
NIИ Live Archive ‏@RITCNIN (https://twitter.com/RITCNIN)4m (https://twitter.com/RITCNIN/status/371740653283074048)
People.. The DIME torrent of Reading will be up on RITC in a few hours. In time. Patience.

stefler
08-25-2013, 04:14 PM
FYI. You already can find the broadcast on DIME:

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=462382

antpatty
08-25-2013, 04:35 PM
i am so happy that i chose Belfast over reading/leeds we got a 2 hour set with full production and a really decent crowd full of NIN fans all for £36

MrSlfDstruct
08-25-2013, 04:52 PM
Fuck, I'd be happy with that setlist. A tad short, but a lot of the "greatest hits" I wouldn't be crushed not to hear.

Definitely an odd setlist. I could see how a newcomer wouldn't find the first half too stimulating though. Not a lot of upbeat, "rock"-y songs in there. The second half pretty much all rage though.

Cascade
08-25-2013, 04:55 PM
If Trent wasnt angry before he started touring he sure is now. I suspect that this will be the last time NIN will perform at the R+L festivals

TheRealNs1
08-25-2013, 05:05 PM
lol

https://twitter.com/nineinchnails/status/371749451356180481/photo/1

MacabreMagpie
08-25-2013, 05:11 PM
I agree it's weird that the rockier songs are at the end - you'd think they would have been more inclined to put everything from SD onwards at the start - but maybe it was deliberately disjointed so that only the fans would enjoy it, knowing the tracks. I've been to NIN club gigs right after festivals, before, and Trent has always made some comment about how fucking awful the crowds can be so perhaps that was his attitude.

miss k bee
08-25-2013, 05:15 PM
umm nice last three tunes could of gone mad to that

Urizen
08-25-2013, 05:27 PM
Did you guys hear this already?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMXWKxah5zI&feature=youtu.be

JessicaSarahS
08-25-2013, 05:39 PM
Did you guys hear this already?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMXWKxah5zI&feature=youtu.be

That's not even from this show. :confused:

Urizen
08-25-2013, 05:44 PM
Nah, I know. I found it and I just freaked out!
Reading will be up shortly apparently.

WorzelG
08-25-2013, 06:42 PM
Just got back from Reading - it was a fucking awesome gig. There was no hate where I was, got to hear the new stuff despite no production. Finally heard Me, I'm Not and The Warning. The crowd where I was clapped along to Disappointed with no prompting. Lots of people enjoying it who you wouldn't think would be into NIN, great

d-signet
08-25-2013, 08:13 PM
just got back and i'm knackered so i'll keep this brief.

they rocked. absolutely blew most of the other bands out of the water.

I was there with my kids so i wasn't deep in the pit or anything. Kept a safe distance but got a decent view due to the size of the crowd....more of that later.

trent was obviously VERY pissed off and almost spat every line that could be directed at the organisers. any time a lyric said "fuck you" he seemed to shout it a little more than usual. he kept disappearing to the back of the stage into the (very heavy) smoke and you could just catch him shouting at somebody on the video screens. there were a few moments where I thought we were about to get either a speech or a "somethings gonna get broken" moment but they held it together and just delivered a brilliant set of two halves.

as has been pointed out before by other people, the first part was mostly promotional. you can see from the setlist it seems to be the tunes that they specifically wanted to play or the label wanted them to play.

then they got angry.

and blew the roof off.

While the crowd was a LOT smaller than it was for fall out boy (kids eh?) there were obviously a lot of people there who didn't really know who NIN were but had stayed around anyway....and for every disinterested teen there was another voice somewhere deep in the crowd saying "wow, these guys are really good"

i've got a couple of short-ish vids that i might stick up if the quality is any good and nothing better surfaces.

ManOfAtom
08-25-2013, 08:49 PM
That was fucking excellent.
i knew something was up when the usual screens didn't come out, they had a wall of strobes like at the O2 in '09.
the set was so good. The low-key technoish drum machine stuff built a steady load of dancing with the faithful there early (I wasn't close to the front and there was a lot of dancing). I thought we were in for a Sonisphere repeat actually. It was exciting to not know where the set was going.
Somewhat Damaged was an arrangement that started with kinda ambient noises, then vocals, the RIFF. Soon as they hit that I knew the backend was going to be HEAVY. It bridged those two sets perfectly.
Burn was so fucking savage.
to me, Trent looked like he enjoyed it but who knows. The end was super abrupt, and twenty minutes short.
they started in daylight but by the heavy section it was total darkness, the lights were incredible.
i thought it was probably the best NIN show I've seen tbh. the unpredictability of it was exciting, and the constant mood in each half worked so well, it really let me lock into the vibe.

spahn
08-25-2013, 09:10 PM
FYI. You already can find the broadcast on DIME:

http://www.dimeadozen.org/torrents-details.php?id=462382

anyway of getting this without having to go to DIME? no DIME account here and comcast doesn't let me access it.

GoodSoldier333
08-25-2013, 10:37 PM
anyway of getting this without having to go to DIME? no DIME account here and comcast doesn't let me access it.

Same with meeee.

SM Rollinger
08-25-2013, 10:38 PM
Id prefer an audio rip, but im kinda busy at the moment... Anybody on that?

ninlive
08-25-2013, 10:57 PM
Id prefer an audio rip, but im kinda busy at the moment... Anybody on that?

Hi.

http://reflectinginthechrome.com/shows/2013/20130825.html

SM Rollinger
08-25-2013, 11:00 PM
Ryan thank you sir

trollmanen
08-25-2013, 11:40 PM
I agree it's weird that the rockier songs are at the end - you'd think they would have been more inclined to put everything from SD onwards at the start - but maybe it was deliberately disjointed so that only the fans would enjoy it, knowing the tracks. I've been to NIN club gigs right after festivals, before, and Trent has always made some comment about how fucking awful the crowds can be so perhaps that was his attitude.

It was probably logistical since all of the songs up until SD are more electronic based, and played with a particular set of instruments. Haven't seen video, but I'm guessing they had the stage set for those songs then moved to the rock stuff since they got fucked on their production. I love how they ended with Wish, I think that was only done on some of the Aussie shows in 2009.

m3chanical
08-26-2013, 12:00 AM
Has anyone else noticed the bbc site and the official reading site have cock blocked trent.. Unless I'm mistaken nin is the only main stage act they haven't posted any official photos or videos from?

LeviSnuts
08-26-2013, 12:15 AM
anyone do an album art?

WorzelG
08-26-2013, 12:41 AM
Has anyone else noticed the bbc site and the official reading site have cock blocked trent.. Unless I'm mistaken nin is the only main stage act they haven't posted any official photos or videos from?
The official reading Twitter and facebook thing posting said something like '20 years of material and they sound fucking incredible' - also NIN told the BBC not to stream so maybe that's why no videos?

They did sound incredible, I was overwhelmed when Copy of A started and everyone started dancing. Does not compute that anyone could watch that stuff and not be impressed even without the big production

jesus
08-26-2013, 12:52 AM
aint from the official stream but is something http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MoJiM2h1HU

m3chanical
08-26-2013, 01:04 AM
The official reading Twitter and facebook thing posting said something like '20 years of material and they sound fucking incredible' - also NIN told the BBC not to stream so maybe that's why no videos?


Thanks for correcting me..

WorzelG
08-26-2013, 04:36 AM
So in their blog of the festival NME link to a report on the whole thing. The promoter responds that nothing had changed from the contract they signed to. But I actually saw the full production screens behind the black curtain while they were setting up, why would NIN shaft their own production as it took so much time and effort to make. Doesn't make sense

http://www.nme.com/news/various-artists/72258

bthitman
08-26-2013, 04:48 AM
According to Twitter, Trent said 'fuck rock and roll by the way' whilst on stage.

also an Instagram video of someone making a teddy headbang to Terrible Lie, so that was played.

The teeny-bob, commercial band before (Fall Out Boy) made some speech about 'rock-and-roll being about everything and everything being about rock-and-roll' or something like that. Trent's quote was a nice dig at that.

Was a great show no matter what, but wanted to punch the douchebags that were asking 'how long is this band on for?' as they were clearly there for some Bif guy...

WorzelG
08-26-2013, 05:06 AM
^^i saw a few songs of Biffy Clyro a few years ago as they were headlining Sonisphere - we were repelled to the beer tent by sheer humdrumness. What do people see in that band?

Since when were Fall Out Boy even rock and roll anyway?

Gary Sharman
08-26-2013, 05:24 AM
DIME torrents stuck finding peers for me at about 98%, anyone else having problems? Looks like waiting for RITC to upload the video

dlb
08-26-2013, 05:39 AM
I'm still seeding so you should at least get a bit out of my files.

and yes, big love to TR for his "fuck rock 'n' roll by the way" line after me, I'm not! :D

laz001
08-26-2013, 07:15 AM
To be honest, I'm pretty disappointed that Trent took a dig a Biffy for this.

Fine, go nuts at the promoter or whatever, but Biffy are a decent, hardworking band, they are MUCH bigger than NIN here in the UK, and deserve the headlining spot.

Anywhere else in the world, and it's the other way round, but not in the UK unfortunately.

I'm sure it's not Biffy's fault that there was a screw up, they don't seem like the type of band to want to ruin anothers' performance.

jmtd
08-26-2013, 08:15 AM
Set list seems to blow Leeds out of the water. Smug that I didn't bother with leeds, I'd have been pissed that reading out classed it. Awesome list actually with SD half way. To download this tonight or HM, that's the question...

explodey
08-26-2013, 09:13 AM
I was at the right of the stage, and although crowd were fairly subdued during first half of set, they were clapping along, although didn't seem to know anything about the band - someone next to me asked if Trent was the singer after he had started singing. But during Beginning Of The End a few fans started appearing, and by end of Wish, whole place was jumping (bar those that were at the front waiting for Biffy). Having seen the band quite a few times, was delighted that got to hear new and more unusual tracks - thought it was one of the best performances I have seen them give. Although it would have been nice to see the light show, did like the freedom of not playing the arranged tracks gave them. Roll on April!

Frydek
08-26-2013, 09:38 AM
I would have loved to see this show. The setlist is very unusual for a NIN gig. Surely it's because I've seen them a few times since TF era but I've grown tired of hearing every single time Wish, MOTP, Terrible Lie, Head like a hole, Hurt, etc. These are great songs but they could play some of them and not all of them.

antpatty
08-26-2013, 10:15 AM
I would have loved to see this show. The setlist is very unusual for a NIN gig. Surely it's because I've seen them a few times since TF era but I've grown tired of hearing every single time Wish, MOTP, Terrible Lie, Head like a hole, Hurt, etc. These are great songs but they could play some of them and not all of them.

totally agree man even at the scala show i kinda did a little sigh when they played MOTP, THTF and head like a hole

[Shep]
08-26-2013, 10:52 AM
To be honest, I'm pretty disappointed that Trent took a dig a Biffy for this.
.

I agree with this. But its the scheduling I can't understand. You have system of a down, NIN, deftones, and countless other heavy bands on and you stick NIN there?

Surely NIN under System and Biffy under Green Day would've made much more sense.



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Frydek
08-26-2013, 11:57 AM
totally agree man even at the scala show i kinda did a little sigh when they played MOTP, THTF and head like a hole

Considering the gig at Scala was supposed to be for fans only, I was fairly disappointed with the setlist. I don't know why they're not a little more daring with the song selection after all these years.

captainkurtz
08-26-2013, 02:20 PM
To be honest, I'm pretty disappointed that Trent took a dig a Biffy for this.

Fine, go nuts at the promoter or whatever, but Biffy are a decent, hardworking band, they are MUCH bigger than NIN here in the UK, and deserve the headlining spot.

Anywhere else in the world, and it's the other way round, but not in the UK unfortunately.

I'm sure it's not Biffy's fault that there was a screw up, they don't seem like the type of band to want to ruin anothers' performance.

Completely agree.

I think TR was a little naive to think he would get any sort of production values at all when he wasn't the headliner and I think he is completely out of line with the BC slur - its not the first time he has been disparaging towards them either - as soon as they were announced he came out with similar missives - if they were told about this then you can hardly blame them if they had any involvement in what occurred.

Also - I'm not sure who was responsible on the band's side for getting them on this bill, but Leeds and Reading is really unsuitable to the kinds of audience that NIN attracts. The demographic seems to be 14-15 year old emo kids. Apart from anything else, at this point in his career, Trent Reznor should really not be playing support to anyone.......

FWIW, I don't know any BC stuff...

d-signet
08-26-2013, 02:21 PM
remember that biffy were confirmed headliners before nin were even announced.....possibly even before nin announced the whole reformation-album-comeback thing.


reading didn't even seem to be emo kids, it seemed to be largely trendy "top-shop's festival range" wearing pop fans who couldn't get tickets for v-festival.

antpatty
08-26-2013, 03:04 PM
Considering the gig at Scala was supposed to be for fans only, I was fairly disappointed with the setlist. I don't know why they're not a little more daring with the song selection after all these years.

i hate THTF live mainly because when they start playing it you know the show is drawing to an end

Frydek
08-26-2013, 03:15 PM
i hate THTF live mainly because when they start playing it you know the show is drawing to an end

Haha yes it's true! That's exactly what I thought at the Rock en Seine show.

During the LITS tour, I remember people leaving the venue when Hurt started. I guess they thought it was the last song but In This Twilight was coming next and many missed it. A surprise might sometimes come next, who knows ;)

Frydek
08-26-2013, 03:21 PM
Trent Reznor should really not be playing support to anyone.......

It was pretty cool when NIN opened for Jane's Addiction during the NINJA tour :)
Apart from that, right with you on this one. But that's how it goes in festivals I guess. Otherwise, they'd have to skip quite a few. It was actually OK at Rock en Seine although Phoenix was headlining.

sore_and_crucified
08-26-2013, 03:29 PM
Jane's opened for NIN.

Frydek
08-26-2013, 03:35 PM
Jane's opened for NIN.

Maybe in the UK but not in North America

icklekitty
08-26-2013, 05:06 PM
Maybe in the UK but not in North America

Would have preferred it your way around. Those nipples have scarred me.

sore_and_crucified
08-26-2013, 05:16 PM
Would you have preferred Biffy | NIN tour then?

ManOfAtom
08-26-2013, 05:23 PM
it was definitely the right way round, trent might not know them (they are only just making waves in the US) they are fucking huge here. NIN is a weird choice for that festival, or that day at least.
it won't have been Biffys doing at all either.

demo
08-27-2013, 12:20 AM
The footage is fucking awesome.
goddamn.

m3chanical
08-27-2013, 01:49 AM
Did anyone post the YouTube link yet?
http://youtu.be/xDIT4ADCXWc

humie74
08-27-2013, 02:12 AM
FUCK THE BBC
Why the fuck did bbc not show nin what the fuck were they thinking i could not go so i was looking forward to see them live from the bbc on sunday night
what a fuckin joke i dont normaly swear but that pissed me right off

nooneimportant
08-27-2013, 02:26 AM
You can tell in this performance that Trent isn't very happy with things, especially during The Warning where it seems like he's just mocking with his movements and wearing a hoodie while Josh Eustis seems to have a shit eating grin on his face about it. They also ramped up the fog machines to the point where you can barely see the band perhaps as a statement, but it makes the performance look amazing in certain ways.

ManBurning
08-27-2013, 02:51 AM
Josh Eustis seems to have a shit eating grin on his face about it..

I can barely watch that with a straight face with him in that Hoody, oh my...

zsorzs
08-27-2013, 03:28 AM
I was very close to the stage but the kids around me were so boring ... I felt they are in a wrong gig or waiting for the next band... it wasnt a good vibe unfortunately .. sounded good but the Scala gig is what THE CONCET this at Reading was something else ... Looking forward to see NIN in Milan tomorrow

will post a few pictures later...

I enjoyed the slow electro set at the beginning ... fuck rock n roll ... :)
remember when they played their slow songs at a hardcore metal Sonisphere festival in 2009 ?

and yes ..no production...I was very disappointed

icklekitty
08-27-2013, 06:35 AM
I enjoyed the slow electro set at the beginning ... fuck rock n roll ... :)
remember when they played their slow songs at a hardcore metal Sonisphere festival in 2009 ?

The songs they've played live so far from HM are basically a hipster's wet dream, and that's who populates Reading. But yeah, pretty much any time NIN plays live to strangers the audience gets a shock.

d-signet
08-27-2013, 08:06 AM
FUCK THE BBC
Why the fuck did bbc not show nin what the fuck were they thinking i could not go so i was looking forward to see them live from the bbc on sunday night
what a fuckin joke i dont normaly swear but that pissed me right off

I would guess that the band requested it be pulled - like the live stream.


It sucks, but i can understand it.

Trent's been going around the whole media-circus thing with interviews and magazine cover stories making a big deal over the stage show (which IS excellent) and if I was in his position I'd be concerned about being made to look like a dick

imagine the average viewer at home who has listened to the BBC interviews, read the NME cover story etc, then they tune in to the reading set and think "wtf? is that IT? a few backing lights and strobes? what's the big deal"

without getting the bbc and reading's streaming to put up a notice saying "the band regret that they havent been able to put on the show they promised" i think i'd want it pulled too

ManOfAtom
08-27-2013, 10:13 AM
The songs they've played live so far from HM are basically a hipster's wet dream, and that's who populates Reading. But yeah, pretty much any time NIN plays live to strangers the audience gets a shock.

that wasn't the crowd i saw! i was only there for a day but it was FULL of my-first-festival teenagers wearing Fosters boxes on their heads!

sorry, that's pretty irrelevant. but i wouldn't have said it was a particular hipster crowd.
i also think NIN won over big parts of the crowd tbh.

icklekitty
08-27-2013, 01:05 PM
Isn't being a hipster what's trendy with the young people? They all look the same.

[Shep]
08-27-2013, 03:14 PM
'Alternative' and 'hipster' aren't mutually exclusive. Not all alternative kids are hipsters.

Anyway. If I was Trent (which I'm told im not) I would've pulled the broadcast. As a fan I love that we have it, especially given how unusual a setlist it is. But for the casual viewer expecting an amazing production it must've been anti-climatic.

P.S. what is it with the UK and festival fuck ups? First sonisphere and now this?

Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 4

zsorzs
08-27-2013, 04:13 PM
made lots of pictures at the festival
a few from the campsite etc. but most of them are from the NIN gig
my Reading festival photo album is here :

https://plus.google.com/photos/112307768806664215376/albums/5916901726811399857


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-AAfmPyYIhxI/Uh0Pq9JYeII/AAAAAAAADcs/7qFmKQa91xg/w816-h459-no/IMG_0388.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-C57gHLaYnFk/Uh0PrPmuxdI/AAAAAAAADcw/ymT4kFHIQN4/w816-h459-no/IMG_0392.JPG

simonn
08-27-2013, 04:42 PM
Gotta say, from the footage I've seen so far on Youtube (Warning/Damaged) it looks pretty unique for a NIN gig. The amount of smoke is ridiculous, must've been done on purpose I reckon to scupper any possibility of broadcast, but it actually looks really good! Though during those 2 songs, didn't see Ilan once! It does look like Trent is aping it a bit during Warning - hoodie, plus some of the vocals are quite OTT, but it's almost like he seems really relaxed in a 'don't give a fuck if I get the words wrong' kind of way! This could be a classic...

TheRealNs1
08-27-2013, 05:02 PM
Gotta say, from the footage I've seen so far on Youtube (Warning/Damaged) it looks pretty unique for a NIN gig. The amount of smoke is ridiculous, must've been done on purpose I reckon to scupper any possibility of broadcast, but it actually looks really good! Though during those 2 songs, didn't see Ilan once! It does look like Trent is aping it a bit during Warning - hoodie, plus some of the vocals are quite OTT, but it's almost like he seems really relaxed in a 'don't give a fuck if I get the words wrong' kind of way! This could be a classic...

funny you mention that, I'm on "warning" now and all I see are lights and fog. LOL

and srsly, where the hell did this hoodie come from?

pretty lights exploding in my face, I love it.

filmfanb
08-27-2013, 09:49 PM
dont know about you but this is one of my favourite streams so far.
i know it wasnt what trent wanted but the setlist, production etc.... was so obscure. the production is choreographed which is brilliant but seeing it stripped back its quite fun to watch now and again
in terms of pissed of trent, i love him these days. normally guitars would be trashed etc.......but he just took the piss out of the festival. especially during the warning. those vocals were hilarious
oh and did the video editors have massive hard on for josh. ya he is pretty but....come on.

anyway, i need some london dates now!

millhouse
08-27-2013, 09:53 PM
oh and did the video editors have massive hard on for josh. ya he is pretty but....come on.


In that situation, it's probably the director (live multicam), but I would hedge a bet that Josh just happened to be in the least smokey spot... Hence the exhaustive coverage - if you can get the clearest shot of someone, they're probably going to keep going back there.

Just a thought.

filmfanb
08-27-2013, 09:54 PM
ya true that

TheRealNs1
08-27-2013, 10:30 PM
I wanna see some bored emo kids, give me the timestamps!

jesus
08-28-2013, 12:59 AM
The girl in Came Back Haunted almost ruined my night

Scarlet Siren
08-28-2013, 03:38 AM
..............

Scarlet Siren
08-28-2013, 03:39 AM
The girl in Came Back Haunted almost ruined my night

Which girl in Came Back Haunted??

dlb
08-28-2013, 04:14 AM
I CAME BACK HAUNTED!!!

http://s7.directupload.net/images/130828/gxk7loyb.gif

Scarlet Siren
08-28-2013, 05:02 AM
Haha.

Apparently i was on the screen a few times. I'm the one at the front (facing the right of the stage) wearing a red With Teeth tee.

antpatty
08-28-2013, 06:16 AM
trying to watch this without punching my laptop screen every time there is a close up of a crowd member

icklekitty
08-28-2013, 06:30 AM
;123087']'Alternative' and 'hipster' aren't mutually exclusive. Not all alternative kids are hipsters.

I was saying the opposite, actually.


Also I think they chose that setlist at Sonisphere. There was no real light show to start with (comparing with say, Rock Werchter) and Trent said that he was pleased with the atmosphere there.

simonn
08-28-2013, 06:41 AM
Also I think they chose that setlist at Sonisphere. There was no real light show to start with (comparing with say, Rock Werchter) and Trent said that he was pleased with the atmosphere there.

Not that I'm doubting you, because I'm not, but I've never heard that sentiment before. I remember the "We played a pur­posely quiet, inti­mate set. I fig­ured it would either enrage or baf­fle the metal audi­ence…” quote, but I don't remember him actually commenting on the experience itself. If he did, would like to know what was said. Just because.:p

TheBang
08-28-2013, 07:45 AM
Not that I'm doubting you, because I'm not, but I've never heard that sentiment before. I remember the "We played a pur*posely quiet, inti*mate set. I fig*ured it would either enrage or baf*fle the metal audi*ence…” quote, but I don't remember him actually commenting on the experience itself. If he did, would like to know what was said. Just because.:p
You should have just continued on with the quote a little bit more, and you'd know just how he felt about it:

http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?21,800185,800327#msg-800327

We played a purposely quiet, intimate set. I figured it would either enrage or baffle the metal audience... but to our amazement it went over great!
Really fun set to play in that environment.

dlb
08-28-2013, 08:05 AM
trying to watch this without punching my laptop screen every time there is a close up of a crowd member

there are two noticeable NIN fans (girl with red dread locks and guy with NIN shirt singing along to terrible lie), but otherwise I have to agree with your statement. Pretty much every shot of the crowd has some ridiculous people freaking out about the sheer awesomeness that is TR even without a proper light show and too much smoke. Sad and bored girl during somewhat damaged is a fave though! :D

This is my favorite stream after Fuji and before Rock n Heim.

simonn
08-28-2013, 01:07 PM
You should have just continued on with the quote a little bit more, and you'd know just how he felt about it:

http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?21,800185,800327#msg-800327
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Ah - the quote I went and retrieved didn't have that second half -wasn't from NIN.com! Cheers for the embellishment. Of course, now I've looked at the thread you directed me to, I actually posted in it, so I feel even more stoopid now!

zsorzs
09-02-2013, 03:04 AM
a few pictures of the Reading and Leeds shows at the BBC website

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/galleries/p01fqh0h (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/galleries/p01fqh0h)

Lastentrance
09-03-2013, 07:28 AM
Really interesting article on Reading by Drowned in Sound. They list NIN as the weekend's best, despite it being the least best they've seen them...

http://drownedinsound.com/in_depth/4146799-an-alternative-music-festival-or-a-clap-a-long-athon-reading-2013-reviewed

PUNCHLINE
09-03-2013, 08:31 AM
You should have just continued on with the quote a little bit more, and you'd know just how he felt about it:

http://forum.nin.com/bb/read.php?21,800185,800327#msg-800327
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yes, very quiet and intimate, with I Do Not Want This, The Wretched, Wish in the setlist...just a clusterfuck of a setlist, thrown together with total disregard and a complete lack of understanding as to the nature of the concert. A HUGE amount of people were there to see NIN do what was to be their last ever UK show and Trent just went on, played a weird setlist that just didnt work then walked off stage early, lol.

WorzelG
09-03-2013, 08:52 AM
^^^the Reading setlist would have gone down a storm at that Sonisphere

WorzelG
10-02-2013, 10:33 AM
Sorry for double post but I just read an interesting interview where Trent says that the off-the-cuffness of the Reading set is what invigorated him to mix it up a bit on the Tension tour
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20131002/ENT04/310020009

"And he was invigorated by a set at this summer’s Reading Festival, where extenuating circumstances forced Nine Inch Nails to shelve its elaborate production and more or less make things up on the spot.
“Weirdly enough, it was one of the funnest shows we had, because it felt new,” says Reznor. “It felt vital, it felt challenging.”
That show awakened Reznor to the possibility of what NIN could be — and, in his eyes, should be — in 2013."

icklekitty
10-02-2013, 12:43 PM
"Funnest".

Fuck's sake.