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Malechite
11-28-2011, 09:28 PM
So they're working on a new album. Here's hoping its more like the first two, and less like the most recent two :)

voidnz
12-01-2011, 12:10 AM
Looking forward to the album. The U2 cover isn't half bad. I just wonder if they all still have it.

LaneSax
12-01-2011, 12:21 AM
I actually found Bleed Like Me good enough to be grouped with their first two albums. Beautifulgarbage had some good moments too with some of the slower songs.

voidnz
05-12-2012, 05:04 PM
Anyone get the new album. I wasn't impressed from first listen.

Anyone else think the 4 bonus tracks are better than the songs on the album?

frankie teardrop
05-13-2012, 10:33 PM
i haven't heard the bonus tracks yet, but the album is solid. best thing they've done in a while, in my opinion. the single was a bit of a dud, but there's some great moments, some fantastic pop songs.

Magtig
05-14-2012, 02:08 AM
I'm liking this record more and more with each spin. I actually really liked Bleed Like Me, but 2.0 still remains their best.

LaneSax
05-31-2012, 12:23 AM
The album sounds like where they left off from Bleed Like Me but I think NYKOP is better.

As for the bonus tracks, The One, What Girls are Made Of and Love Like Suicide are great! The other two, are alright.

henryeatscereal
05-31-2012, 09:42 AM
NYKOP grows on you, i remember putting it on my CD player and hating the first second and third song, now i like them except for "Blood for poppies", it sounds too generic to me, luckly the album has a lot more to offer, "Control" is awesome for instance.
Still i think is very smilar to "Bleed like Me" i do like the CD, but i think Garbage missed a good opportunity to reinvent themselves or maybe explore more the darker style of their first album, my favorite one of them.

frankie teardrop
05-31-2012, 06:28 PM
i legitimately love the goodbye mr. mackenzie stuff:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_2n0VZKUUQ


& speaking of garbage, caught the NYC show last week, and they've still got it in the live setting as well. in fact, i may have enjoyed last week's show more than the bleed like me tour. they walk a perfect line between rawness and slickness, and one of the most fun bands i've seen on stage. eric avery on bass certainly doesn't hurt.

Archive_Reports
05-31-2012, 07:27 PM
I've never liked any Garbage album right off the bat and this one's no different. I hope it grows on me like the rest.

voidnz
05-31-2012, 10:05 PM
The albums grown on me big time. Really rate it now. I actually like it more than Bleed Like Me and easily better than Beautiful Garbage.

jmtd
07-06-2012, 04:07 PM
Reading a lot that this is brick wall mastered. True?

lady weetly
08-22-2012, 04:14 AM
I met Shirley before the Chicago show and she is literally the sweetest. Told off some dudes trying to have her sign a guitar that "allegedly" Tom Petty signed so they could just stick it up on ebay. They got pissed and left, but she was standing up for us fans and pretty much got to all of us waiting. This was my first Garbage show though I've been a fan since a kid and was fantastic. The show was at the Metro so it was really intimate and special. She stopped the show a few times to tell some stories of the band's history relating to the venue and Chicago too. The setlist is a perfect mix of old and new stuff (love the new album though it grew on me) and everyone should go see them this tour!

LaneSax
05-06-2014, 06:51 AM
that kiss...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkpT948yTGw

GulDukat
05-06-2014, 07:33 AM
Nice. Sounds good.

I'm a huge Garbage fan--seen them 3x. I like the s/t. v2.0 and Bleed Like Me the best.

They have a ton of b-sides. I'd love for them to put them on a double-CD compilation.

LaneSax
05-06-2014, 10:47 AM
They have a ton of b-sides. I'd love for them to put them on a double-CD compilation.
Garbage fans have been wanting a B-side collection since 2001. Felt it would have been a good timing to have released one after beautifulgarbage.

Hopefully we dont have to wait much longer

caught them at their last tour, Shirley is ever charismatic! the crowd was just so mesmerised by all her stories and rants haha.

GulDukat
05-06-2014, 12:36 PM
They released a live DVD last year, One Million High Live, it's great.

voidnz
05-06-2014, 09:13 PM
I enjoyed the DVD too. I like these songs and I really liked Not Your Kind of People. I hope they release another album soon.

GulDukat
05-06-2014, 09:28 PM
I enjoyed the DVD too. I like these songs and I really liked Not Your Kind of People. I hope they release another album soon.

I liked NYKOP but was maybe a little letdown. To me it sounded like they were in their comfort zone and played it safe. There's nothing really wrong with the album, it's good--but I was hoping for something a little more adventuress. I actually really liked Beautiful Garbage and LOVED Bleed Like Me. Those albums weren't as well received, but they were a little more daring, IMO.

DVYDRNS
02-14-2015, 03:06 PM
someone on reddit asked for this. so i made it and uploaded it. 5 minutes of the end of queer. maybe you want it for valentines day or something too. i don't know...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frI1-lAUPYw&feature=youtu.be

Camille
02-14-2015, 05:04 PM
Fucking hell I'm old!!
I remember seeing Shirley when she was in Goodbye Mr Mackenzie when they supported Big Audio Dynamite in Edinburgh about a hundred years ago.
I loved the first two Garbage albums but lost interest after that. I recently met a Fan of Garbage though and he has been playing me more recent material. Not bad at all.

ChipRock
03-05-2015, 05:49 AM
So, I got my ticket for the Brixton show in November. Billed as a 20th anniversary show, along with another in Paris, for the first album. Presumably there will be more dates added. I was set on seeing them for a third time, having seen them in '98 and '02, but then they cancelled in '05. Not sure why I didn't see 'em in 2012, but from watching clips on youtube it seems like they're better than ever, at least as a live act.

As much as I love that first album, I'm kinda hoping they don't just play it all in full, in order. For something like The Downward Spiral that really works, but I'd prefer to just see a nice mixed up setlist that just happens to include a good chunk of songs from that period (including b-sides, of course). Perhaps they'll break out some new material as well? I'm sure they've been working on a new album recently.

November is a long time away yet of course, but I believe they're doing something for Record Store Day. Presumably we won't see anything else until 2016.

LaneSax
09-03-2015, 12:35 AM
they will be releasing a 20th anniversary remaster of their debut

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CN6EuIqUkAE7Uwj.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CN6ExvXUYAEWT2H.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CN6ExPKUwAApLVw.jpg

CD1 - Garbage
1. Supervixen
2. Queer
3. Only Happy When It Rains
4. As Heaven is Wide
5. Not My Idea
6. A Stroke of Luck
7. Vow
8. Stupid Girl
9. Dog New Tricks
10. My Lover's Box
11. Fix Me Now
12. Milk

CD2 – G-Sides
1. Subhuman
2. Girl Don’t Come
3. Sleep
4. Driving Lesson
5. Trip My Wire
6. #1 Crush (Nellee Hooper mix)
7. Butterfly Collector
8. Alien Sex Fiend
9. Kick My Ass

uroboros
09-03-2015, 01:11 AM
CD2 – G-Sides
1. Subhuman
2. Girl Don’t Come
3. Sleep
4. Driving Lesson
5. Trip My Wire
6. #1 Crush (Nellee Hooper mix)
7. Butterfly Collector
8. Alien Sex Fiend
9. Kick My Ass

The itunes version includes 62 tracks altogether! Remixes galore but also demo versions! ahhhh! Strangely it seems to lack the "Torn Apart" mix of Vow. huh. Nevertheless....

PhoenixML
09-03-2015, 09:14 AM
Release: Oct 2nd

GulDukat
09-03-2015, 09:17 AM
They are coming to Boston the same night as Chris Cornell, bummer.

I wish they would just release all their b sides.

Archive_Reports
09-03-2015, 10:16 AM
It would be nice to be able to order just the vinyl without all the extra stuff.

ChipRock
09-04-2015, 04:24 AM
A_R - I'm sure the standard double LP will show up eventually. Not sure why it seems to be European only at the moment. I'm half tempted by the super box set, but mainly I'm after the remixes and unreleased tracks. Reminded me of a tweet from a while back now: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COC3lpwWEAAx6t5.png Weird about the Torn Apart mix, but I guess maybe one of the new Vow mixes might be the same/similar. Be nice to see some new merch show up.. even if only at the gigs. Can't believe I lost my pink girls cut Garbage t-shirt from back in the day. Not that I'd be able to wear out now.
Anyway, worth noting (and this is UK I'm talking about) that the full super deluxe set is way cheaper on Amazon than it is on iTunes. Guessing they've made a mistake and it'll change nearer the release date, but you never know. Also, the later albums are showing as reissued remasters on iTunes. I wonder if this means we might see full expanded versions in the near future? A touch optimistic perhaps, but it would be nice to have all the b-sides at least.

LaneSax
09-04-2015, 05:53 AM
The itunes version includes 62 tracks altogether! Remixes galore but also demo versions! ahhhh! Strangely it seems to lack the "Torn Apart" mix of Vow. huh. Nevertheless....
that sucks if they don't get a physical release!

not arsed about the remixes but sure as hell would be keen on demos or more G-sides

LaneSax
09-04-2015, 05:58 AM
I wonder if this means we might see full expanded versions in the near future? A touch optimistic perhaps, but it would be nice to have all the b-sides at least.
I hope!

I really want them G-sides on CD!

LaneSax
09-04-2015, 12:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni4nyNblA5I

icklekitty
11-09-2015, 07:18 AM
I saw them last night. It was a fairly tight show but I think Shirley forgot the tune more than a few times.

I like this approach to a retrospective more than just playing the albums through from start to finish. It really did feel like a celebration of the whole era, with anectodes, video footage, and b-sides/rarities.

frankie teardrop
11-09-2015, 08:07 AM
she tends to forget lyrics sometimes. i've always found it kind of charming. i was surprised when they got through the nyc gig without incident!

that said, agreed. i generally dislike the full album runs (with few exceptions, like hearing the holy bible from front to back), but this tour was perfectly executed. mixing the setlist up to flow as a proper show and covering all songs from the era was a really classy move and set the bar for this kind of tour for sure.

ChipRock
03-10-2016, 10:57 AM
At long last - details for the new album have been released this afternoon. Strange Little Birds will be released on 10th June. Details are on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/GarbageOfficial/photos/a.252533808090811.78027.243166889027503/1157622607581922/?type=3&permPage=1 along with tour dates. I'm extremely put out that the London show is at the busiest time of year for me at work so I'm unlikely to be able to make it. I enjoyed the Brixton show so much last year I was set on seeing them next time. Crap.
Oh yeah, and there's a tiny snippet of a song on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/p/BCxtzonMyrf/ to whet our appetites. Sounds pretty good to me! Shirley has suggested it will be a 'dark' record, but we'll see.

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/v/t1.0-0/p480x480/12794445_1157622607581922_6761725768951761723_n.jp g?oh=32a76628880692ae0da54d13538c9381&oe=5757F0B1

GulDukat
03-10-2016, 03:50 PM
Always liked Garbage, looking forward to hearing this.

LaneSax
03-12-2016, 09:55 PM
Love Garbage but damn that artwork looks bad

LaneSax
04-21-2016, 07:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5ZgmPpDtXs

Archive_Reports
04-21-2016, 11:10 AM
I really want to like it so much more than I do.

Archive_Reports
05-03-2016, 05:20 PM
https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13096185_1199817526695763_1735945833667878487_n.jp g?oh=4ce9e7f29ea001647e3f3cbb37d2a8ff&oe=57A2B06D

Fuck yes, Indianapolis!

voidnz
05-04-2016, 09:11 PM
I really like the new track (Empty). It's got the good old dark garbage vibe. Looking forward to the record.

ChipRock
05-06-2016, 04:18 AM
Yeah, it's a good track. It hasn't blown me away at all, but it's not quite as different as I was expecting. I'm being a bit hopeful here, but we know a video is coming 'soon' (directed by the guy who did Vow, Only Happy When It Rains and Stupid Girl), and I can't help wonder if this might get a full 'old-school' single release. My reasoning being that the Strange Little Birds bonus tracks seem to have disappeared from pre-order pages. Perhaps they had planned to do the same as NYKOP and release a deluxe version, but have since changed their minds and we'll now get proper b-sides. Maybe even on a CD and everything. Just a thought.

GulDukat
05-07-2016, 11:03 AM
Going to the Boston show this summer. Seen them a few times. LOVED this band when I was in my late teens, early 20's. Kind of lost interest, but am still looking forward to the new album and tour.

GulDukat
05-10-2016, 07:31 AM
I really want to like it so much more than I do.
I hear you. I like "Empty," it's a good, solid single that should appeal to fans of their first two albums, very 90's. I just don't love it. While their last album Not Your Kind of People did really well with fans and critics, I thought it was kind of a disappointment. I felt it was a good album, but more of the same, like a lost album that should have been released around 1999 or 2000. While Beautiful Garbage and Bleed Like Me weren't as popular as their first two, I liked how they were trying to branch out and experiment with the formula, dance-pop with the former and more guitar rock with the latter.

With "Empty," the band sounds good, the single is catchy, but it feels a little recycled.

LaneSax
05-23-2016, 10:33 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSa_hbutFt0

amazing how Shirley still looks sooooo goooood

Kodiak33
05-23-2016, 11:15 AM
Looks like Butch Vig is out for the first leg of the tour (Matt Walker filling in) until June 18th.

Archive_Reports
05-23-2016, 01:52 PM
Pretty spiffy video.

FernandoDante
05-23-2016, 05:29 PM
New album is pretty great. I interviewed Shirley a couple of weeks ago. Waiting on my editor to post it.

ChipRock
05-25-2016, 03:59 AM
New album is pretty great. I interviewed Shirley a couple of weeks ago. Waiting on my editor to post it.
So you got an advance copy huh? Do let us know when the interview is up.
It seems they're doing a lot more promo for this record than they did for NYKOP. Plus, that is a very cool video for Empty. I've not listened to the track a great deal, but I'd say it was more of a grower than an immediate hit. I'll certainly be glad if there's more like this on the album. I've seen a couple of pretty good reviews, and a couple that are a bit more 'average', but I get the feeling it will be a bit more consistent than the last album.
I guess some people will be gutted about Butch's absence on tour right now, but Matt Walker is about as good a replacement you can get. So here's Vow from France last night:

https://youtu.be/oqctE8qZWVg

LaneSax
05-28-2016, 12:58 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lpcdAR9ij0

perceptionnexus
05-29-2016, 06:08 PM
I prefer Curve, but I've always kinda liked Garbage. Haven't really listened to anything much past Version 2.0 though. But I really dig what I'm hearing from their new album, I must say. It gives me that old "i'm young and full of life in the summer" feeling. Might go see em on this summer tour. anyone know if there's gonna be an opening band?

dlb
05-30-2016, 12:34 PM
I saw Garbage on Saturday at a metal festival where they were quite out of place, but I really loved the old 90ies vibe, Shirley was in a good mood and pretty much all the girls loved her antics, stage banter and the nice little set they played. Too bad it was only like 10 songs and only "empty" as a new one, but I really enjoyed it. Especially since I never had the chance to see them before.

Curve for me as well. All the way, but it's nice to have another band having that particular sound going for them and being successsful with it.

Sadly Butch Vig was missing, but I totally forgot that Eric Avery is a touring member, so I was positively surprised to see him on stage. :)

voidnz
05-30-2016, 09:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lpcdAR9ij0

This is really great!

ChipRock
05-31-2016, 06:59 AM
I prefer Curve
I don't think Curve have their own thread, but as there are a few fans here - did everyone see the 'new' Foetus remix single? Check their Bandcamp page https://curve.bandcamp.com/ - previously unreleased mixes, presumably from '91.

Back to Garbage - I'm enjoying Doomed for sure. I don't always get on with their more downbeat material, but On Fire from the last single was really good too. I believe there may be live clips of other new songs, but I think I might hold back from teasers for now, especially as it's not long until the album is out.

I've seen Garbage live three times now, and I wouldn't hesitate to see them again (except when I just can't make it... grumble...). Music wise they're pretty powerful - perhaps more so than you'd think from the records - and of course any Shirley banter adds to the experience.

Archive_Reports
06-10-2016, 11:08 AM
Strange Little Birds is out today, and I'm in love. It has a very dark vibe which is almost NIN-ish at times. Probably my favorite since Version 2.0.

LaneSax
06-10-2016, 12:37 PM
I need more listens

As of now only "Empty", "So We Can Stay Alive" and "Magnetized" stand out for me.

VenitianScum
06-10-2016, 02:20 PM
If I lost you definitely has a Year Zero vibe

liquidcalm
06-10-2016, 05:22 PM
picked up the album after reading a forum thread ripping on it for being too 90's, I was like 'but I liked that sound!', and hey, whaddya know, its pretty damn good. Sorta feels like where they would have headed after Version 2.0 in an alt. universe. I think I was one of the few who really liked beautifulgarbage but something about the super slick production always felt off. Love the soft industrial vibes on a few of the new tracks too.

LaneSax
06-12-2016, 11:06 PM
the new record is growing on me

Blackout and Night Drive Loneliness are great too

LaneSax
06-12-2016, 11:59 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4KmJgpgSWU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E-CKcOPgPU

LaneSax
06-13-2016, 11:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKLhV6ERRBk

GulDukat
06-15-2016, 08:57 PM
New album is awesome, their best since Bleed Like Me.

I might rank order the albums like this:

6. Not Your Kind of People
5. Beautifulgarbage
4. Strange Little Birds
3. Bleed Like Me
2. Garbage
1. Version 2.0

LaneSax
06-15-2016, 10:04 PM
I take back my initial thoughts on the album, I think it's their best since Version 2.0

My ranking as follows:

1. Version 2.0
2. Garbage
3. Strange Little Birds
4. Bleed Like Me
5. Not Your Kind of People
6. Beautifulgarbage

GulDukat
06-16-2016, 05:28 AM
While I ranked Beautifulgarbage lower on my ranking, I felt it was an underrated album. Shame it didn't really catch on and kind of hurt their career.

LaneSax
06-16-2016, 06:07 AM
While I ranked Beautifulgarbage lower on my ranking, I felt it was an underrated album. Shame it didn't really catch on and kind of hurt their career.
same here

I do not think Garbage has ever released a poor album. All their albums have been hits to me.
I would say Bleed Like Me is an underrated album too, people seem to only care about their first two records

GulDukat
06-16-2016, 06:20 AM
same here

I do not think Garbage has ever released a poor album. All their albums have been hits to me.
I would say Bleed Like Me is an underrated album too, people seem to only care about their first two records
I loved Bleed Like Me. Loved the guitars, total 90's record, released ten years after the fact. While some fans and critics saw Not Your Kind of People as a sort of "return to form," to me I saw it as sort of a retread of their first two albums.

With their new album, the band seems to have retained the sound of the first two albums, but they are also exploring new sounds. It goes for a very dark, moody kind of vibe.

ChipRock
06-16-2016, 07:48 AM
I see a lot of love for Beautiful Garbage, but it has to be bottom of the pile for me. Partly because it just feels a bit inconsistent, but also because Androgyny was a weak first single. It has its moments of course, but I probably need to revisit it. I agree that Bleed Like Me seems underrated. It reminds me very much of With Teeth actually - both fairly safe and straight forward rock records that actually contain some great songs, but lack the spark of earlier work. I'm so glad that most people agree on Strange Little Birds though. I've yet to give it a thorough listen in full, but it really does come across as being up there with their best. You can tell they have just gone ahead and produced a record that they wanted to make, with little or no restraint, or worry about fitting in. NYKOP was a really good comeback for them, and I love most of it, but I'm not sure it came across as well as it should have. So to join in on the ranking:

01 Garbage
02 Version 2.0
03 Strange Little Birds
04 Not Your Kind Of People
05 Bleed Like Me
06 Beautiful Garbage

We'll see how Strange.. holds up over time though. It's also difficult when they have so many great remixes, b-sides and odd tracks. I really love Tell Me Where It Hurts, for instance.

Oh yes, and it seems they are planning on a reissue of Version 2.0, as well as a corresponding tour. Looking forward to that then!

Archive_Reports
06-16-2016, 09:20 AM
I love a good list!

1 - Version 2.0
2 - Garbage
3 - Strange Little Birds
4 - Beautiful Garbage
5 - Bleed Like Me
6 - Not Your Kind of People

LaneSax
06-17-2016, 10:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL1SYw1Ceac&feature=share

GulDukat
06-18-2016, 09:13 AM
Shirley Manson's pre-Garbage band, Angelfish, was pretty good.

frankie teardrop
06-21-2016, 05:04 PM
^ this predates angelfish even (and shares a lot of the same members):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_2n0VZKUUQ

LaneSax
06-22-2016, 05:54 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe12CRUNNh8

LaneSax
06-22-2016, 10:27 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf3e3BZWS8s

LaneSax
07-02-2016, 01:17 PM
track by track album commentary...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHQBvGqi784&list=PLVnhQPW2EvrmS3Eh3cfqaeUyGro1Q7FEa

Vertigo
07-02-2016, 06:43 PM
The new album's got me back into Garbage, hadn't been following them since Beautiful Garbage (which I do feel is underrated, if nowhere vaguely near Version 2.0). It's an amazing piece of work, lots of hooks, lots of emotion, raw, exciting, deep and interesting. [edit: Strange Little Birds, not Beautiful Garbage]

Picked up Not Your Kind Of People today to see what else I'd been missing, and am considerably less thrilled. It's dancy and easy to listen to, but extremely short on hooks, and nothing like the other four albums I own. Maybe it's a grower?

Only thing with Strange Little Birds is, the writing sounds a lot more introverted to me, much more Trentian. It feels like it's coming out of a state of depression, much more so than any of the others. Not that that's a bad thing, artistically speaking.

LaneSax
07-03-2016, 01:52 AM
The new album's got me back into Garbage, hadn't been following them since Beautiful Garbage (which I do feel is underrated, if nowhere vaguely near Version 2.0). It's an amazing piece of work, lots of hooks, lots of emotion, raw, exciting, deep and interesting. [edit: Strange Little Birds, not Beautiful Garbage]

Picked up Not Your Kind Of People today to see what else I'd been missing, and am considerably less thrilled. It's dancy and easy to listen to, but extremely short on hooks, and nothing like the other four albums I own. Maybe it's a grower?

Only thing with Strange Little Birds is, the writing sounds a lot more introverted to me, much more Trentian. It feels like it's coming out of a state of depression, much more so than any of the others. Not that that's a bad thing, artistically speaking.
Get Bleed Like Me, definitely a better effort than NYKOP

Archive_Reports
07-16-2016, 08:59 AM
Caught them last night, and they were phenomenal.

Kodiak33
07-16-2016, 09:27 AM
Caught them last night, and they were phenomenal.

I was there too! Crowd was lame as usual for a rock show.

Archive_Reports
07-16-2016, 10:32 AM
I was there too! Crowd was lame as usual for a rock show.

Indy crowds are always lame.

Kodiak33
07-16-2016, 01:59 PM
Yeah, that's unfortunately true.

GulDukat
07-16-2016, 03:35 PM
I was there too! Crowd was lame as usual for a rock show.
Count me in as someone lame at a rock show. I usually attend shows after a long day of work and a long, tedious subway ride and am tired by the time I arrive at a venue. If a pit does form and I find myself in it, I get the hell out of there.

kel
07-16-2016, 04:29 PM
i'm with RhettButler. shows are too expensive and too exhausting, so take me as i am when there. give me reasonable space, don't spill on me, stop screaming in my ears.

do pits form at garbage shows nowadays? that'd be weird, y'all.

GulDukat
07-16-2016, 04:36 PM
i'm with @RhettButler (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=3921). shows are too expensive and too exhausting, so take me as i am when there. give me reasonable space, don't spill on me, stop screaming in my ears.

do pits form at garbage shows nowadays? that'd be weird, y'all.
Yeah. Most Garbage fans are going to be 35-40-ish and they're not really a mosh-pit kind of band anyway.

Archive_Reports
07-16-2016, 07:30 PM
A pit would be strange for sure. Most people seemed disinterested past the first 10-15 rows. I had two people standing next to my wife and me that would not shut up and kept bumping into us.

GulDukat
07-16-2016, 07:37 PM
A pit would be strange for sure. Most people seemed disinterested past the first 10-15 rows. I had two people standing next to my wife and me that would not shut up and kept bumping into us.
So annoying. And put your damn tablet/phone down.

Kodiak33
07-18-2016, 08:57 AM
Yeah I don't mean that the crowd was lame and wasn't moshing...they just didn't seem to care at all. I took a girl who had no idea who Garbage was, and she had a better time than most people there (plus she had to deal with me).

GulDukat
07-29-2016, 07:22 AM
Garbage last night in Boston was awesome. Seen them four times now. They seemed to try to represent each album, with the setlist tilted more towards their first two albums. Didn't play "Queer," but almost every other single. Shirley looks and sounds awesome. She didn't introduce the band or have a lot of interaction with them, but they were otherwise very tight.

GulDukat
07-29-2016, 07:26 AM
Yeah I don't mean that the crowd was lame and wasn't moshing...they just didn't seem to care at all. I took a girl who had no idea who Garbage was, and she had a better time than most people there (plus she had to deal with me).
A couple of drunk bros at last night's shows. Overweight dudes about 6'2, drunk as shit, waving their arms, cutting right in front of people as soon as the band hit the stage, etc. You always come across these types and I wonder if they know any of their songs.

LaneSax
10-05-2016, 11:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcfOmhGJ8G4&feature=share

Hyperpower
10-13-2016, 05:38 PM
i checked out 2-3 songs on youtube and just based on that bought the Strange Little Birds album and yep, album is on repeat.
money well spent and i do think not theres been all that much talk about this album sadly.

cahernandez
10-13-2016, 08:17 PM
i checked out 2-3 songs on youtube and just based on that bought the Strange Little Birds album and yep, album is on repeat.
money well spent and i do think not theres been all that much talk about this album sadly.

It may be my favorite Garbage album to be honest. I love it when bands release such a great album late in their careers (like Deftones' Koi No Yokan). I saw Garbage live last month and they only played 4 albums off the new album, sadly. I would had preferred a more Strange Little Birds heavy set.

voidnz
10-17-2016, 08:12 PM
I love Strange Little Birds. It's really grown on me. I actually think it's right up there with the Debut and Version 2.0 as one of the best albums.

halo eighteen
02-08-2017, 10:36 AM
Blondie & Garbage

July 5 - The Mountain Winery, Saratoga, CA*
July 7 - Santa Barbara Bowl, Santa Barbara, CA*
July 8 - The Pearl Concert Theater, Las Vegas NV*
July 12 - Edgefield, Troutdale, OR*
July 14 - Idaho Center Amphitheatre, Nampa, ID*
July 16 - Fiddler’s Green Amphitheatre, Englewood, CO*
July 18 - Kauffman Center for the Performing Arts, Kansas City, MO*
July 19 - Harrah’s Council Bluffs Hotel & Casino, Council Bluffs, IA*
July 21 - Mystic Lake Casino—Mystic Showroom, Prior Lake, MN*
July 22 - Ravinia Festival, Highland Park, IL*
July 25 - Artpark, Lewiston, NY**
July 26 - Sony Centre For Performing Arts, Toronto, ON**
July 28 - Count Basie Theatre, Red Bank, NJ**
July 29 - Bethel Woods Center for the Arts, Bethel, NY**
July 30 - Blue Hills Bank Pavilion, Boston, MA**
August 1 - Beacon Theatre, New York, NY**
August 2 - Mann Center for the Performing Arts, Philadelphia, PA**
August 5 - The Red Hat Amphitheater, Raleigh, NC**
August 8 - Seminole Hard Rock Live Arena, Hollywood, FL**
August 9 - Hard Rock Live, Orlando, FL**
August 11 – ACL Live, Austin, TX **
August 12 - Southside Ballroom, Dallas, TX**
MORE DATES TO BE ADDED
* w/ John Doe & Exene Cervenka
** w/ Deap Vally

SM Rollinger
02-08-2017, 11:29 AM
Damn Council Bluffs is only like 2 hours away, might have to go.

kel
02-08-2017, 11:23 PM
awesome. i'll be at the nampa show.

ChipRock
07-13-2017, 04:11 AM
New song "No Horses"
coming this Friday!
(https://twitter.com/garbage/status/884819142230003712)

I'm guessing this is a one-off single for the Blondie tour, rather than being part of a new album. Looks like there will be a video, but no b-sides or anything, and no physical release as far as I know.

They've played it live already, which you can see on YouTube, but I'm waiting to listen to the proper release first. Has anyone been at the recent dates? Footage looks a bit strange, playing in sunlight to half empty venues. Looks like Blondie fans are in the majority for these shows.

neorev
07-14-2017, 01:32 PM
Garbage goes apocalyptic...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2szL13y9Bpk

benoοde
07-14-2017, 02:42 PM
Garbage goes apocalyptic...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2szL13y9Bpk

Nice, I like the song. Strange Little Birds is a great album, up there with the first one imo (always been my favorite).

LaneSax
08-02-2017, 12:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxkE0Nj4Dgw

ChipRock
09-04-2017, 03:48 AM
Just announced yesterday - 20 Years Paranoid show for London, September 2018. Tickets on sale Friday.
https://twitter.com/garbage/status/904389064052367360

Presumably we'll see further European dates added to this. I feel a bit odd about this as the Strange Little Birds tour didn't really cover much for Europe, so I hope they include a whole lot of the new songs for this run. Guess there would be US dates too, but what with SLB and Blondie tours it's not like you guys haven't had a good fill of Garbage recently.

I'm not sure I feel too fussed about the Version 2.0 reissue though. The debut was a real treat with all the b-sides and remixes together, but I'm not sure the bonus material for this record will match that.

Archive_Reports
03-29-2018, 08:40 AM
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/garbage-prep-20th-anniversary-reissue-of-version-20-w518476

halo eighteen
04-24-2018, 03:45 PM
https://www.spin.com/2018/04/garbage-us-tour-version-2-0/

"20 Years Paranoid" U.S. Tour

09/29 – Seattle, WA @ Showbox SoDo
09/30 – Portland, OR @ Roseland Theatre
10/03 – Oakland, CA @ Fox Theater
10/05 – Las Vegas, NV @ Cosmopolitan Hotel
10/07 – Tempe, AZ @ Marquee Theatre
10/09 – Albuquerque, NM @ Sunshine Theatre
10/11 – Dallas, TX @ House of Blues
10/12 – Houston, TX @ House of Blues
10/13 – Tulsa, OK @ Paradise Cove
10/17 – Chicago, IL @ The Riv
10/18 – Northfield, OH @ Hard Rock Live
10/20 – Port Chester, NY @ Capitol Theatre
10/21 – Washington, DC @ Lincoln Theatre
10/23 – Boston, MA @ House of Blues
10/25 – Philadelphia, PA @ The Fillmore
10/26 – Atlantic City, NJ @ Borgata Spa & Resort
10/27 – Brooklyn, NY @ Kings Theatre

GulDukat
05-20-2018, 10:11 AM
Anyone going to the Version 2.0 tour?

Seeing them in Boston a few days after NIN.

burninglard
05-20-2018, 11:43 PM
Anyone going to the Version 2.0 tour?

Seeing them in Boston a few days after NIN.

I might try to go to the Oakland show. I am not a huge fan, but I do like enough of their material to check them out live and have a good time. 2.0 was a big album, I liked a lot of the songs from it.

ickyvicky
05-21-2018, 02:28 PM
Anyone going to the Version 2.0 tour?

Seeing them in Boston a few days after NIN.

Yes, I'll be at the Port Chester, NY show. This will be my 3rd time seeing them. They kick ass live.

halo eighteen
05-21-2018, 02:31 PM
It breaks my heart to be missing the V2.0 album live, but I can't make it to any of the shows. I was lucky enough to see one of the debut album shows a few years back though, and that's the album that I have the fondest memories of.

GulDukat
06-30-2018, 08:13 AM
I hope they do a 20th anniversary edition of Beautiful Garbage in three years--tons of b-sides from that era too.

renton44
07-01-2018, 08:37 AM
Anyone get a copy of the orange vinyl for 2.0 yet? I ordered it months ago via amazon, and they are saying it will be delivered by the end of August. I don't feel like waiting...haha, so I ordered it from a local guy.

Archive_Reports
07-01-2018, 11:30 AM
Anyone get a copy of the orange vinyl for 2.0 yet? I ordered it months ago via amazon, and they are saying it will be delivered by the end of August. I don't feel like waiting...haha, so I ordered it from a local guy.

I ordered mine from Amazon and got it a day early. Sounds great.

Vertigo
07-01-2018, 01:19 PM
Is the difference from the original version noticeable?

GulDukat
07-02-2018, 09:13 AM
Is the difference from the original version noticeable?

I did a side-by-side comparison today and couldn't tell a noticeable difference. Maybe the new disc is louder, but they sound pretty much the same, to my ears. If the anniversary edition didn't include the bonus disc with b-sides, I wouldn't have bothered getting it and just stuck with the original CD. I have the 1998 disc uploaded onto my i-tunes/i-pod and am just going to leave it.

Honestly, for most albums, is it even worth remastering albums released after say, 1994? Some CDs issued in the 80's/early 90's do sound thin, and the remasters were a big improvement, i.e. The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Van Halen, etc. But can you really improve upon the sound quality of a CD issued in 1998 all that much?

Some of the b-sides here are quite good, so this was still a worthwhile purchase. I really like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqKgXldBO60

renton44
07-02-2018, 01:10 PM
I did a side-by-side comparison today and couldn't tell a noticeable difference. Maybe the new disc is louder, but they sound pretty much the same, to my ears. If the anniversary edition didn't include the bonus disc with b-sides, I wouldn't have bothered getting it and just stuck with the original CD. I have the 1998 disc uploaded onto my i-tunes/i-pod and am just going to leave it.

Honestly, for most albums, is it even worth remastering albums released after say, 1994? Some CDs issued in the 80's/early 90's do sound thin, and the remasters were a big improvement, i.e. The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Van Halen, etc. But can you really improve upon the sound quality of a CD issued in 1998 all that much?

Some of the b-sides here are quite good, so this was still a worthwhile purchase. I really like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqKgXldBO60

I was/am a big fan of the B-Side, Lick the Pavement from this era. Though, I did find the B-Sides for the first record to be stronger than those from the second (does it really get any better than Butterfly Collector?). I collected those slim case singles back in the day, and have quite the Garbage Collection.

I agree 100% that any remaster of something form the 90s isn't going to be that huge of a step up from the original master, especially if Butch Vig was in that band. I am just excited to finally have this in my vinyl collection. I didn't have the original pressing of this or the first record, so it is sweet to have them both.

GulDukat
07-02-2018, 01:54 PM
I was/am a big fan of the B-Side, Lick the Pavement from this era. Though, I did find the B-Sides for the first record to be stronger than those from the second (does it really get any better than Butterfly Collector?). I collected those slim case singles back in the day, and have quite the Garbage Collection.

I agree 100% that any remaster of something form the 90s isn't going to be that huge of a step up from the original master, especially if Butch Vig was in that band. I am just excited to finally have this in my vinyl collection. I didn't have the original pressing of this or the first record, so it is sweet to have them both.Some remasters from the 90's sound worse than the original release, Superunknown being the best example. I uploaded the 2014 remaster of Superunknown to my ipod and couldn't believe how bad it sounded. It was like my headphones had both blown, everything was just very loud and muffled.

renton44
07-02-2018, 02:38 PM
Some remasters from the 90's sound worse than the original release, Superunknown being the best example. I uploaded the 2014 remaster of Superunknown to my ipod and couldn't believe how bad it sounded. It was like my headphones had both blown, everything was just very loud and muffled.

I heard that one and the remaster for the first Rage Against the Machine record are to be avoided at all costs. I am not a guy who can tell you what is what, but I guess they claim both are 'brickwalled' to death, which I guess means they pumped up the volume on them to the point where finer details are lost?

frankie teardrop
07-02-2018, 03:24 PM
(does it really get any better than Butterfly Collector?)..

it's a jam cover, which isn't as good as the original, but still a damn fine track.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdFZSF_LmVo

my fav. b-sides from garbage are 'girl don't come,' 'trip my wire,' 'subhuman,' and 'sleep' - hearing those (and more) live was a real treat.

as for version 2.0, my fav. from that era is 'deadwood' and the big star cover 'thirteen.' overall, i love all the b-sides from the first record and am hit or miss on the second (not a fan of 'tornado' at all). the albums are mostly neck-and-neck, though i slightly prefer the first as well.

i have original wax for both, but i've been tempted by both reissues so i could have the b-sides on vinyl... hard to justify though, considering how much i paid for and cherish the originals...

halo eighteen
07-02-2018, 03:26 PM
"Soldier Through This" is immaculate, and probably the biggest reason I'm torn up about missing one of these shows this fall.

Archive_Reports
07-02-2018, 03:39 PM
my fav. b-sides from garbage are 'girl don't come,' 'trip my wire,' 'subhuman,' and 'sleep' - hearing those (and more) live was a real treat.

"Trip My Wire" is such a good song but the live version is so much better.

Disassociative
07-03-2018, 04:52 AM
Mostly it seems to add a bit of clarity to some songs, like Dumb and Temptation Waits. In a good way though, some elements are easier to hear like the backing vocals in the chorus of the latter. You Look So Fine seems to have a different vocal take in the outro refrain (Drown in me one more time, hide inside me tonight etc.).

It isn't brickwalled either, the main album disc all the songs have plenty of breathing room. The bsides disc is a little more compressed dynamically but I wouldn't call it loud or brickwalled either. Still room for the audio to breathe and no clipping on either disc.

Vertigo
07-03-2018, 05:39 AM
That sounds more like what I was hoping for. With a remaster, I'm not necessarily looking for better sound quality or a tweaked dynamic range, I'm looking for different elements to be made prominent, and maybe new takes from the recording session mixed in. The gold standard for me is TDS' 5.1 mix, in which many tracks sound quite different, even if converted to stereo.

Disassociative
07-03-2018, 06:53 AM
Plus I've somehow never heard it before despite having all the other b-sides in some form, but the acoustic version of Medication is beautiful.

frankie teardrop
07-03-2018, 08:02 AM
You Look So Fine seems to have a different vocal take in the outro refrain (Drown in me one more time, hide inside me tonight etc.)

as much as that part of the song gives me chills, i hate when reissues do this.

PhoenixML
07-03-2018, 11:26 AM
Version 2.0 was probably the first album I bought by myself at 13 years old. Before that, I was mainly listening to pop radio songs like Spice Girls and Backstreet Boys before shifting it all to "alternative-rock".

I still love it. I haven't been a fan of their latter albums, but I still hold this one highly in my all time favorite albums.

You Look So Fine is my favorite closer song ever.

frankie teardrop
07-03-2018, 12:36 PM
as much as that part of the song gives me chills, i hate when reissues do this.

responding myself to report that the vocals on 'you look so fine' sound exactly the same as i remember them, so no need to worry about any take/version differences across the reissue. it souns great!

PhoenixML
07-03-2018, 01:15 PM
At 3:02 to 3:25, the backvocals are different, and even on different notes.

GulDukat
07-03-2018, 09:33 PM
I bought Version 2.0 in 1999, after seeing their video for "Special."

That album really brings me back to when I was 19, a very transitional year for me, good memories. Looking forward to the Boston show.

halo eighteen
07-03-2018, 09:54 PM
I was a junior in high school when 2.0 came out and had already been downright obsessed with the debut album for a couple years prior to that. "Push It" was absolutely everything I wanted their sound to be. They have a true knack for mixing pop sensibilities with more abrasive sounds and textures and I think 2.0 delivers that in spades. It's probably objectively the superior of the first two albums, but I just have way too much personal attachment to that first one.

Is there any truth to the reasoning of Trent being thanked in the liner notes of the first album for "naming" the band, after he supposedly used that exact word to describe Butch Vig's "Last" remix? I can't seem to find any evidence of this now but I swear this was stated somewhere, or I've just been erroneously making myself believe it all these years haha.

cahernandez
07-03-2018, 10:14 PM
I was a junior in high school when 2.0 came out and had already been downright obsessed with the debut album for a couple years prior to that. "Push It" was absolutely everything I wanted their sound to be. They have a true knack for mixing pop sensibilities with more abrasive sounds and textures and I think 2.0 delivers that in spades. It's probably objectively the superior of the first two albums, but I just have way too much personal attachment to that first one.

Is there any truth to the reasoning of Trent being thanked in the liner notes of the first album for "naming" the band, after he supposedly used that exact word to describe Butch Vig's "Last" remix? I can't seem to find any evidence of this now but I swear this was stated somewhere, or I've just been erroneously making myself believe it all these years haha.

According to the "This is the noise that keeps me awake" book, the name comes from Butch Vig's studio journal from 1993 "I hope all this garbage will become something beautiful" (referring to their output from those recording sessions)

GulDukat
07-03-2018, 10:33 PM
Wish Garbage would tour with NIN.

Hyperpower
07-03-2018, 10:55 PM
Wish Garbage would tour with NIN.

that would be killer!

frankie teardrop
07-04-2018, 06:40 AM
At 3:02 to 3:25, the backvocals are different, and even on different notes.

yeah just did an a/b and it's slightly different. on the original, she appears to oscillate the pitch more with each note.

did they explain why they switched the vocals? as such, my previous annoyance is reinstated.

ChipRock
07-06-2018, 04:11 AM
I've put off getting a copy of the reissue as I have all the b-sides already - I was hoping instead for a full package, as per the debut, with at least all the remixes. Anyway, I see a remix package has now been made available digitally (which suits me fine) eg this from 7digital at 320 or FLAC https://www.7digital.com/yourmusic/artist/garbage/release/version-20-the-offical-remixes-8025436/8025436

I'm intrigued by some changes as mentioned here. I know they had issues before with remastering where original tapes (or whatever) were missing so some material was reconstructed from other sources, or something along those lines. That was for the Absolute compilation, if I remember correctly.

I'm rather gutted to be missing the London show. I'm not a big gig goer, and a night out up to London can end up costing more than I can really spare, but I was all set to give in and get tickets (Dream Wife in support swayed it a bit) when the Nine Inch Nails show came up. No contest then, but yeah, if the two bands could play together I'd be thrilled.

halo eighteen
09-05-2018, 03:27 PM
Setlist spoiler; tour kicked off in Scotland last night!!

http://www.garbagebase.com/2018/09/edinburgh-festival-theatre-edinburgh-scotland/

Archive_Reports
09-06-2018, 03:32 PM
Setlist spoiler; tour kicked off in Scotland last night!!

http://www.garbagebase.com/2018/09/edinburgh-festival-theatre-edinburgh-scotland/

Not sure why, but the lack of S/T love makes me sad.

GulDukat
10-24-2018, 07:51 AM
Saw them last night in Boston--another outstanding show. They played Version 2.0 (not front-to-back), some covers, b-sides, a new song, and ended with OHWIR. Game one of the World Series was right next door, so that was exciting. Never disappointed with this band.

Vertigo
10-24-2018, 08:13 AM
Saw them last night in Boston--another outstanding show. They played Version 2.0 (not front-to-back), some covers, b-sides, a new song, and ended with OHWIR. Game one of the World Series was right next door, so that was exciting. Never disappointed with this band.

I saw them last month in London, they finished with an audience vote between a David Bowie song (Starman I think?) and Cherry Lips, with the latter winning out. Was No Horses the 'new' song?

GulDukat
10-24-2018, 08:59 AM
I saw them last month in London, they finished with an audience vote between a David Bowie song (Starman I think?) and Cherry Lips, with the latter winning out. Was No Horses the 'new' song?No, it was a brand new song written last year, not yet recorded.

NotoriousTIMP
10-24-2018, 09:09 PM
still bummed that there wasn't an LA or San Diego date :(

ChipRock
01-04-2019, 04:05 AM
Just having a listen to the Destroying Angels / Starman single which is now available to download after being a Record Store Day vinyl exclusive. The A side is good - another interesting collaboration, this time with the guys from X, but not quite a Garbage classic. I'm always wary of any David Bowie covers, and I'm not entirely sold on their Starman for the B side. I'm willing to bet it sounds good live (will check YouTube in a bit) but otherwise... it is what it is.
Really looking forward to some proper new material though - I can't help feel that Strangle Little Birds was rather underappreciated personally. So I also see that they're heading to Europe for some festival dates this summer... not rushing to get tickets for Kew The Music in London, even thought it is a headline show. Got my fingers crossed for an additional indoor (club?) show while they're here.

MrLobster
01-04-2019, 04:42 AM
Just having a listen to the Destroying Angels / Starman single which is now available to download after being a Record Store Day vinyl exclusive. The A side is good - another interesting collaboration, this time with the guys from X, but not quite a Garbage classic. I'm always wary of any David Bowie covers, and I'm not entirely sold on their Starman for the B side..

I was able to grab the 7" on RSDBF and yeah... that's pretty much the way I feel about it. The murder ballad is great by the cover is... well, I'm not much of a Bowie fan to begin with, so... I'm just happy with the A-side.

Failure
05-04-2019, 12:47 AM
Just got back from their tour kickoff at The Tabernacle (in Atlanta). Great to see the band firing on all cylinders. They played 3 songs in off Garbage, 7 songs off V.2, 3 songs off BG, 2 songs off BLM, 2 songs off NYKOP, 2 songs off SLB. Plus #1 Crush and Horses. Shirley sounded fantastic. But they fucked up some songs and had to restart them (Parade, Blood for Poppies); plus had a big “to-do” during Push It (some dude punched a girl and Shirley made sure that nobody got arrested for better or worse). My 6 year old, who is obsessed with the band, wasn’t a huge fan of the setlist. So that must mean I’ve done something right in life. All in all, the experience makes me realize how painfully underrated Garbage is.

halo eighteen
05-04-2019, 11:21 AM
I'm so glad Dumb and Wicked Ways are still kicking around. The return of Parade is definitely welcomed as well. Apparently they performed On Fire for the first time, too? All in all, looks like a very typically Garbage setlist! (Not a bad thing)

Archive_Reports
05-04-2019, 03:10 PM
https://youtu.be/8hL9TyNNZ-4

halo eighteen
12-03-2019, 07:51 AM
They'll be touring next summer with Alanis Morissette and Liz Phair, ahead of their 7th full length album coming out later in the fall. I've somehow never actually seen Alanis or Liz before, so I'm pretty geeked about the lineup!

GulDukat
12-03-2019, 09:14 AM
They'll be touring next summer with Alanis Morissette and Liz Phair, ahead of their 7th full length album coming out later in the fall. I've somehow never actually seen Alanis or Liz before, so I'm pretty geeked about the lineup!

Great Scott! Marty, we must have traveled to 1995! Funny, I also see that Motley Crue, Def Leppard and Poison are touring together! There must be a tear in the space-time continuum!

GulDukat
12-03-2019, 09:44 AM
Honestly, I would like to see this tour. I love JLP and this bill looks great.

bobbie solo
12-03-2019, 03:47 PM
the three of them toured together in 1998.

SM Rollinger
12-04-2019, 11:34 PM
Damn their gonna be playing the DTE, I'm on the fence about this one. It's a 16 hour drive, but I just NEED to get a good tape outta this venue...

(That and the place is just damn cool, if you've been there you know what I mean)