Nine Inch Nails 2013 tour

[TheBang]

A "ticket release" system...a process in which a ticket holder starts that indicates to MusicToday the release of his/her ticket because he/she can no longer attend the show. MusicToday receives the notice, and upon receiving and once clearing the full payment (fees included) from the new party (a friend, a somebody that was tipped off about the ticket, whatever) to buy said ticket, the original ticket buyer gets a refund minus the service fees.
LOL, seriously??? Dude, it's clear you just don't get it. Here's what's wrong with your suggestion.

Under your proposal, I could have bought 2 premium tickets meant for the fans to Las Vegas, a SOLD OUT show, during the nin.com pre-sale. Suddenly, a few weeks before the show date, I have an emergency come up. My mom died. Or there's a wedding, whatever. I would then tell MusicToday, that because of these extenuating circumstances, I would like to transfer these 2 tickets to my good friend, John Doe, who can attend. John Doe pays MusicToday $100 per ticket, and I get my refund of $100 per ticket. Everyone's happy, right? These premium tickets went to a fan, and I got the flexibility I need for everyday shit that comes up.

Oh, and also John Doe paid me $200 per ticket on the side. Because I'm a scummy scalper, and I and dozens of my scalper friends scooped up all the premium pre-sale tickets, and John Doe, a huge NIN fan, wasn't able to get one. So, he ended up having to pay $300 per ticket, and I pocketed $200 in profit.

[Amaro]

LOL, seriously??? Dude, it's clear you just don't get it. Here's what's wrong with your suggestion.

Under your proposal, I could have bought 2 premium tickets meant for the fans to Las Vegas, a SOLD OUT show, during the nin.com pre-sale. Suddenly, a few weeks before the show date, I have an emergency come up. My mom died. Or there's a wedding, whatever. I would then tell MusicToday, that because of these extenuating circumstances, I would like to transfer these 2 tickets to my good friend, John Doe, who can attend. John Doe pays MusicToday $100 per ticket, and I get my refund of $100 per ticket. Everyone's happy, right? These premium tickets went to a fan, and I got the flexibility I need for everyday shit that comes up.

Oh, and also John Doe paid me $200 per ticket on the side. Because I'm a scummy scalper, and I and dozens of my scalper friends scooped up all the premium pre-sale tickets, and John Doe, a huge NIN fan, wasn't able to get one. So, he ended up having to pay $300 per ticket, and I pocketed $200 in profit.

This is true...

Ah well, I guess the current system is the best.

[witte]

Watch production highlights from the @destroyangels (https://twitter.com/destroyangels) tour (the same creative team is working on the new NIN tours) http://tmblr.co/ZW-7vso6tvzj (http://t.co/XTlyiEO0ul)

Also on the EU festival tour.
Great news, I may say.
I know, the visuals for the EU tour will be less spectacular than for the US arena tour.
Still happy with this...

[pukkelpop]

Watch production highlights from the @destroyangels (https://twitter.com/destroyangels) tour (the same creative team is working on the new NIN tours) http://tmblr.co/ZW-7vso6tvzj (http://t.co/XTlyiEO0ul)

Also on the EU festival tour.
Great news, I may say.
I know, the visuals for the EU tour will be less spectacular than for the US arena tour.
Still happy with this...

this was exactly what i wanted to ask (didnt catch it really good from the interview). 100% sure? cause it's a hell of a production to get overseas i would think

[Emil Dorbell]

this was exactly what i wanted to ask (didnt catch it really good from the interview). 100% sure? cause it's a hell of a production to get overseas i would think

"...currently hard at work on the production of both the NIN 2013 summer festival tour and the Tension 2013 fall arena tour."

What I got from the interview is that these are two different productions. Still very exciting that they're working on the european shows!

[slave2thewage]

Rob said on Twitter that there's two different productions. I thought something was up when there's "Tension 2013" and "NIN Live 2013".

[Mylipsmaypromise]

Not sure if this question has been posted, but does anyone know cameras will be allowed in at the shows?

[ninlive]

Not sure if this question has been posted, but does anyone know cameras will be allowed in at the shows?

No. Unless you're talking about digital cameras, then yes. But the recording policy is not relaxed like it was for the NINJA/Wave Goodbye tours.

[howardlouis]

Hi everyone. Forgive me if this has been answered or discussed here, but has there been any mention of extending the Tension tour in Europe? Naturally, I am temporarily living out of the US when the tour comes through!

Thanks :-)

p.s.) Not a newbie- been here before. But for some reason it wouldn't remember my e-mail address when I did a password request :-/

[jessamineny]

"The first shows will begin this summer, followed by a full-on arena tour of the U.S. this fall and lots of other dates worldwide to follow through 2014."
Article (http://pitchfork.com/news/49681-trent-reznor-announces-the-return-of-nine-inch-nails-extensive-touring-for-2013-and-2014/)

[howardlouis]

Thank you! I thought I had seen that stated somewhere, but couldn't find it. Appreciate it. Hope they venture through Copenhagen.

[Krazy]

Mods- is there gonna be a dedicated ticket trading thread, or is this kind of it?

I'm still looking for a Friday Lolla wristband, and willing to trade even up for a Saturday Las Vegas ticket for that.

Also assuming spoilers are for the show threads only- none on this thread.

[ninsp]

Got tickets for two shows, one pit (going to be front row) and one in the seats. SO EXCITED!

[thefragile_jake]

"The first shows will begin this summer, followed by a full-on arena tour of the U.S. this fall and lots of other dates worldwide to follow through 2014."
Article (http://pitchfork.com/news/49681-trent-reznor-announces-the-return-of-nine-inch-nails-extensive-touring-for-2013-and-2014/)

I wonder if these means there will be additional Tension tour dates in North America in 2014 with markets they didn't hit during the fall? Kind of similar to the With Teeth tour in 2005 into 2006?

I certainly hope so...with my work situation and only having so many days available this year with vacation time (I've got three days used up for Pitchfork Music Festival, taking a day off to wait in line for NIN and another day off to drive to Columbia for Neutral Milk Hotel) I'd love for them to hit up another market close by...perhaps Columbia, MO as well?? We'll have to see!

[Powhatan]

My guess is there will be a second leg to the tour. I doubt he would put together something this big and only do this limited leg - but who knows.

BTW -total side question. Does the NIN.com forum not exist anymore? I didnt post in it for a while but since this ramp up on all this stuff - I no longer find a link to it. Is this now the most "frequented NIN related forum?

[Star]

http://forum.nin.com/bb/?index.php

My understanding are they are going to redo it or something but you can find it and it is still active at the above link.

[jmtd]

For a loose definition of "active"

[Krazy]

Yeah, the only way I can get to the nin.com forum is to google "nin forums" and its the first thing that pops up. It's probably even less active now just because the front page doesn't have a link to it and people assume its gone until the restructure happens.

[jmtd]

We had this crazy idea called bookmarks in the pre-historic pre google era. That and just remembering "forum.nin.com" :)

[spahn]

nin.com forums was "okay" for a while. heck, i was even a mod over there when it first started up, but it went to hell in a hand basket real quick. aside from trent posting over there occasionally (and i figured he had to since it was his forum), there was nothing of interest for the most part.

ETS is and should always be "unofficially" the official NIN forum.

[somewhat_]

Some rehearsal videos sure would be pretty damn cool right now.

[sick among the pure]

Some rehearsal videos sure would be pretty damn cool right now.

Here you go. (http://www.portraitofdecay.com/nin.com/visuals/jlyi-rehearsal.html)

[suprefan]

So who was saying NIN was playing Fun Fun Fun? Oh right, the ones who dont know they wouldnt book em. Line up is out, NIN isnt there, darn.

[butter_hole]

http://m.craveonline.com/music/articles/533129-533129

Aussie tour rumours

[slave2thewage]

^Makes sense. I predicted that it would be US>Asia/Aus>Europe>US/potential South American shows. Seems that I got lucky with my guess.

[witte]

http://instagram.com/p/brOoxbzPRC/
Any idea what this is?

A sort of beamer to create special visuals? :)

[FernandoDante]

Haven't heard any more South America rumors =/

[eversonpoe]

http://instagram.com/p/brOoxbzPRC/
Any idea what this is?

A sort of beamer to create special visuals? :)

looks like a lighting rig of some kind.

[ryanmcfly]

I really hope this is the tour that they decide to make Ruiner a staple in the set.

[theimage13]

http://instagram.com/p/brOoxbzPRC/
Any idea what this is?

Yes. And past "part of the lighting rig," I'm not going to say any more.

[Krazy]

Shit moves up/down and left/right:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei4lPk_aM9Y And here's Upstaging, Inc.: http://www.upstaging.com/

[eversonpoe]

so trent is going to use the Konami code to unlock infinite lives?

[Krazy]

so trent is going to use the Konami code to unlock infinite lives?

I hope so- I mean, doesn't he need to? He's already lost two band members and it's only mid-July. ::up-up-down-down-left...::

[slave2thewage]

Came back c-c-contra.

[sick among the pure]

Times like these^ I wish teitan would come back...

[fragility3.1]

Still no word on a warm-up show? Tour is a week away, guess it's not happening this time around. :(

[sick among the pure]

Still no word on a warm-up show? Tour is a week away, guess it's not happening this time around. :(

Since NIN live 2013 and NIN Tension 2013 seem to be drastically different performances, I always figured if there was one, it would be before the arena tour.

[ryanmcfly]

Since the Fuji Rock festival is going to be streamed, is any tech savvy fan going to rip it? I'll be at a Dillinger Escape Plan show when they go on.

[nowimdowninit]

Since the Fuji Rock festival is going to be streamed, is any tech savvy fan going to rip it? I'll be at a Dillinger Escape Plan show when they go on.

You do know that Japan is 14 hours ahead of Dallas, right?

[ryanmcfly]

You do know that Japan is 14 hours ahead of Dallas, right?

Oh. Duh. Whoever posted on NIN spotting said that they'll be on at 21:30 pst time.

[Callahan]

I really hope they open with the Pinion intro again...I miss that.

[somewhat_]

Just for confirmation: this will be aired July 26 @ 7:30 am est?

[ILoveFestivals]

Trent posted this earlier today on his Instagram.

http://instagram.com/p/b9arF5zPaN/

[FernandoDante]

Trent posted this earlier today on his Instagram.

http://instagram.com/p/b9arF5zPaN/
I'm surprised people aren't going nuts over this. Pretty much confirmation of a rehearsal gig like the LITS one, right?

[JessicaSarahS]

I'm surprised people aren't going nuts over this. Pretty much confirmation of a rehearsal gig like the LITS one, right?

Not necessarily. They gotta practice with the stage setup somewhere to make sure it all works.

[nowimdowninit]

Trent posted this earlier today on his Instagram.

http://instagram.com/p/b9arF5zPaN/

It looks like they are in LA Memorial Sports Arena

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/p480x480/148378_10152503056790171_424099569_n.jpg

http://www.lacoliseumlive.com

(http://www.lacoliseumlive.com/joomla/)

[witte]

I hope it's not only for the arena tour and that the festival setup will be fine too.

[icklekitty]

I'm not worried about this festival set-up vs US arena thing. They say they're coming back to Europe, and from my experience, arena tours are the worst kind of NIN tour, no matter what country they're in.

[thatguymark]

Just for confirmation: this will be aired July 26 @ 7:30 am est?

My understanding is that they're scheduled to play at 21:30 local time in Japan, and it'll be streamed live at http://www.youtube.com/user/fujirocktv. Per google, the time difference between Japan and EST is 13 hours, so that would put them onstage at 8:30 am EST if everything stays on schedule.

[der_wahnsinn]

I'm not worried about this festival set-up vs US arena thing. They say they're coming back to Europe, and from my experience, arena tours are the worst kind of NIN tour, no matter what country they're in.

Are you saying as opposed to festivals? I really think that they are the worst kind. They, more times than not, lead to a shit crowd that has no interest and the sets are usually short and uninspired. I do agree, though versus club shows, but they are rare here in the states

[ninperu]

Hey guys, i want to send an email to Music Today about the pre-order but i've write to tix@musictoday.com & nintix@musictoday.com but they didn't answer, there is another email?

[Krazy]

Are you saying as opposed to festivals? I really think that they are the worst kind. They, more times than not, lead to a shit crowd that has no interest and the sets are usually short and uninspired. I do agree, though versus club shows, but they are rare here in the states

Maybe arenas are shaped weird in the UK and Europe? Yeah, arena > festival. On top of the things mentioned festivals are typically hotter than shit with potential rain, and its a pricey ticket if you're going to see only one band.

[jmtd]

I was quite worried that their UK arena shows in 2009 wouldn't be as good as the club tours I'd seen up until then but they didn't disappoint. Good sound techs I guess

[icklekitty]

Are you saying as opposed to festivals? I really think that they are the worst kind. They, more times than not, lead to a shit crowd that has no interest and the sets are usually short and uninspired. I do agree, though versus club shows, but they are rare here in the states

In my experience (US arena shows, US club shows, UK and Europe club shows, UK arena tours, UK and European festivals), arenas are the most underwhelming of the lot. They're not terrible - NIN would not intentionally spend four months being terrible on the road, I don't think - but given that NIN have said they will return to the rest of the world after these US arena shows, I don't feel like I'm missing out , as it seems like we're unlikely to get something worse. So it's more US arena tour vs whatever Europe has in store for it next year. Over the past few years I've vastly preferred what NIN have done outside of the US live.

And we do get some brilliant festival sets (http://www.nintourhistory.com/concert.php?concertid=827) :D You do need to pick your crowd with them, though. I wouldn't do a German festival, and would be hard pushed to redo an English one, but I'm super looking forward to Rock En Seine, and Rock Werchter was marvellous.


Maybe arenas are shaped weird in the UK and Europe? Yeah, arena > festival. On top of the things mentioned festivals are typically hotter than shit with potential rain, and its a pricey ticket if you're going to see only one band.

The only difference between our arenas and yours is that we fill the floor. None of this leave enough gaps for health and safety rubbish :P.

[witte]

.... I wouldn't do a German festival, and would be hard pushed to redo an English one, but I'm super looking forward to Rock En Seine, and Rock Werchter was marvellous.....

Agree.
Except for the Rock Werchter festival. The 2000 appearance was ok. The others (2005 - 2009) were not a success (not for the audience and not for the band).
If we're talking about Belgian festivals, Pukkelpop fits: the NIN's 2007 gig there was unforgettable! And the band enjoyed it a lot (also the backstage set up).

I'm looking forward to Rock en Seine too...

[ILoveFestivals]

I think Glastonbury would be a great fit for NIN, but not on the Pyramid Stage. I'm really hoping they play next year.

[dbrekke]

Probably didn't need to ask this, but I wanted to make sure:
rob_sheridan Is the festival stage show different then the Tension tour stage show?
dbrekke Completely different. Festival show was designed just for festivals (instead of cramming in a gimped version of the fall show)

[ryanmcfly]

I wonder how many new songs they're going to play on Friday?

[Krazy]

"Gimped"


http://www.slycomics.com/.a/6a00e551db674c8833014e8898d377970d-800wi



EDIT: fixed

[fragility3.1]

Probably didn't need to ask this, but I wanted to make sure:
@rob_sheridan (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=108) Is the festival stage show different then the Tension tour stage show?
@dbrekke (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=529) Completely different. Festival show was designed just for festivals (instead of cramming in a gimped version of the fall show)

Now I'm happy that I didn't spend the money on Outsidelands and instead used that cash for LA and both Vegas dates. I'd much rather see the show with the full Tension setup.

[littlemonkey613]

I wonder how many new songs they're going to play on Friday?

The implications of this just made me die. I hadn't even thought about the reality of hearing songs I haven't heard yet for the first time live. Never had that experience with NIN. Dying....

[Max Leo]

How well (or bad) are the tickets selling so far? Do you think that this Tension tour will sell better than the LITS one? I remember that due to the global financial crisis (american recession obviously included) the ticket sales were not as good as expected, the WT and NINJA tours sold better (and were cheaper), so I'm curious about how this new (I assume that expensive) tour could be performing so far, if the sales are being good enough.

[RJK]

I can tell you for sure that Tension is selling better than the second leg of LITS. Every one of those I went to the floor was half empty and a lot of the Tension shows the floor has sold out already.

I do attribute part of the better sales to it being the comeback tour and scalpers thinking they can make money.

[dlb]

Probably didn't need to ask this, but I wanted to make sure:
@rob_sheridan (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=108) Is the festival stage show different then the Tension tour stage show?
@dbrekke (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=529) Completely different. Festival show was designed just for festivals (instead of cramming in a gimped version of the fall show)

I wonder if "completely" means something like they've done for with teeth (club shows, festivals compared to what's on the DVD) or if this really means COMPLETELY different. Exciting times! :)

[somewhat_]

How well (or bad) are the tickets selling so far? Do you think that this Tension tour will sell better than the LITS one? I remember that due to the global financial crisis (american recession obviously included) the ticket sales were not as good as expected, the WT and NINJA tours sold better (and were cheaper), so I'm curious about how this new (I assume that expensive) tour could be performing so far, if the sales are being good enough.

I can tell you 2 (Auburn Hills and Pittsburgh) out of the 3 shows I'm attending aren't selling very well. I believe you can still get floor tickets and very good reserved seats for both shows.

[Krazy]

Some shows are selling very well (L.A., Toronto among others) and some are selling poorly as of right now (Phoenix, Detroit), and some are somewhere in between.

There is still the album to be dropped about 4 weeks prior to the start of the arena tours. If the album is good and gets positive reviews that should be a boost. Also sales will probably increase slightly as the shows get closer.

[Torgo]

I wonder if "completely" means something like they've done for with teeth (club shows, festivals compared to what's on the DVD) or if this really means COMPLETELY different. Exciting times! :)

I think Rob means that it's completely different.

[Krazy]

I'm pretty sure Rob meant it just might be completely different.

Wait, wut?... o_O

[slave2thewage]

Hopefully it'll involve giant robots.

[sheepdean]

The whole show will be performed by Cirque du Soleil on stilts whilst the music is played off a 1980s boombox

[JessicaSarahS]

Hopefully it'll involve giant robots.

They can borrow Charles from Muse. Rob's already visited the place in Tokyo where they filmed Panic Station. ;)

[dlb]

I think Rob means that it's completely different.

I perfectly understand the meaning of "completely different", but I guess I'm traumatized by too many bands saying the same and all there was for a surprise were 2 to 3 new songs and a changed colour pattern. ;)

[nowimdowninit]

It looks like they are in LA Memorial Sports Arena

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/p480x480/148378_10152503056790171_424099569_n.jpg

http://www.lacoliseumlive.com

(http://www.lacoliseumlive.com/joomla/)

It seems they were at LA Memorial...

Cortini posted this:

http://instagram.com/p/cEnmDvKjZ4/

Which is located in Exposition Park, near the arena.

[Blackbookpress1984]

Hopefully it'll involve giant robots.
Pretty sure Alice cooper might have some giant robotic spiders left over from his 80's tours.

[slave2thewage]

I wonder if we're actually going to get anything beside CBH from Hesitation Marks on the festival tour.

[ryanmcfly]

I would honestly be okay if CBH is the only song from that album that they play on the festival tour. I'm seeing them at Made in America then in Boston a month later.

[Krazy]

EDIT: reason, I can't read.

[littlemonkey613]

It seems they were at LA Memorial...

Cortini posted this:

http://instagram.com/p/cEnmDvKjZ4/

Which is located in Exposition Park, near the arena.

FUCKIN' literally 2 minute walk from my apartment....

[Krazy]

I've brought this up in an earlier post... What happens here (and possibly ETS/RITC Twitter) now that the first show is coming up in a couple days? I'm trying to avoid spoilers.

Obviously I'm not gonna go in the Japan thread and complain about seeing set lists and stage pics. Just that if it gets posted in this thread or the Nine Inch Nails sub-forum threads I'm potentially gonna have a shit fit. :D

Hopefully admin/a mod can chime in. Possibly need a sticky thread to let people know not to post spoilers, only discuss shows in their specific threads?...

[jessamineny]

In my opinion, if you don't want something spoiled for yourself, that's a personal decision, and asking a throng of enthusiastic fans to police their behavior for you is overkill. If it's that important to you, you'll just have to avoid any thread that might possibly have posts in it (or even the entire board).

[Krazy]

In my opinion, if you don't want something spoiled for yourself, that's a personal decision, and asking a throng of enthusiastic fans to police their behavior for you is overkill. If it's that important to you, you'll just have to avoid any thread that might possibly have posts in it (or even the entire board).

Agreed- I've thought about staying off ETS altogether and just looking for any possible PM's. There's also the Twitter thing to look at.

Was more thinking out loud and how it was handled in the past here. IMHO people shouldn't be posting set lists/pics/info in thread, but I'm not Leviathiant or a mod so don't want to tell people how to interact on this forum.

[bobbie solo]

IMHO people shouldn't be posting set lists/pics/info in thread


ha ha ok buddy. zero chance of that happening.

[katara]

I wonder how many new songs they're going to play on Friday?
Not including the Beside You In Time intro, they played seven new songs in 2005 at Fresno. That was the first new show since Fragility 2.0 in 2000.

So we could see a shitload of new material. Or he'll play the hits and just stick to Came Back Haunted. Either way, NIN IS BACK GUYS WOO THEY'RE GOOD

[fillow]

There is no way he'll fill a festival-oriented setlist with many new (unheard) songs. CBH will be there for sure. Other than that, anywhere between 0 and 2. If it was a club show like Fresno (or even Tension tour right away) then I'd expect no less than 5.

[icklekitty]

The whole show will be performed by Cirque du Soleil on stilts whilst the music is played off a 1980s boombox

given the band member connection this is effectively the only realistic prediction that's been made.

[sheepdean]

There is no way he'll fill a festival-oriented setlist with many new (unheard) songs. CBH will be there for sure. Other than that, anywhere between 0 and 2. If it was a club show like Fresno (or even Tension tour right away) then I'd expect no less than 5.
On the other hand, festivals pay up front. He can play nothing but Fixed and the festival would just have to deal with it. I imagine there'll be one song debut, plus CBH, the rest classics and/or a rarity (Theme for Tetsuo COME ON)

[ninlive]

I've brought this up in an earlier post... What happens here (and possibly ETS/RITC Twitter) now that the first show is coming up in a couple days? I'm trying to avoid spoilers.

No spoilers in our tweets. You're safe.

[Harry Seaward]

Is there/should there be a thread for all the NIN related social media pictures we'll surely be seeing over this tour? Basically the whole band is on Instagram now, right? Or is that all going to be contained to this thread?

[JessicaSarahS]

Is there/should there be a thread for all the NIN related social media pictures we'll surely be seeing over this tour? Basically the whole band is on Instagram now, right? Or is that all going to be contained to this thread?


There's one started up here: http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/1920-Official-NIN-posts-on-social-networks

Could do with a name change (NIN Twitter/Instagram/Facebook post thread?) and a move to the tour section to make it more visible.

[ItsJustDave]

Hopefully admin/a mod can chime in. Possibly need a sticky thread to let people know not to post spoilers, only discuss shows in their specific threads?...

Not going to happen.



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[eversonpoe]

On the other hand, festivals pay up front. He can play nothing but Fixed and the festival would just have to deal with it. I imagine there'll be one song debut, plus CBH, the rest classics and/or a rarity (Theme for Tetsuo COME ON)

oh man...i would pay good money to see them somehow do live interpretations of all of Fixed. that would be insane.

[Moebius]

Counterpoint - the Year Zero live debuts trickled out in ones and twos over a period of months.

[slave2thewage]

Counterpoint - the Year Zero live debuts trickled out in ones and twos over a period of months.
The only YZ songs played prior to release were Survivaliam and TBotE, and we already had the studio versions before they debuted.

[dominik]

Trent instagram

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/q87/1002477_4566322736141_1217953657_n.jpg

[simonn]

And we do get some brilliant festival sets (http://www.nintourhistory.com/concert.php?concertid=827) :D

Even before I clicked on that, I knew it was going to be Sonisphere Knebworth! Such a unique day. Such great memories. Never enjoyed crying as much.

[simonn]

I wonder if we're actually going to get anything beside CBH from Hesitation Marks on the festival tour.

Would be amazed if you got more than CBH, pre Tension.

[theimage13]

I perfectly understand the meaning of "completely different", but I guess I'm traumatized by too many bands saying the same and all there was for a surprise were 2 to 3 new songs and a changed colour pattern. ;)


I can confirm that that's not the case here. Rest easy.

[Ruined]

Would be amazed if you got more than CBH, pre Tension. I recall hearing 7 new songs, from "With Teeth," during a show that occurred the month before its release. So, there is a strong possibility that we get more than 2 new songs from the new album. Either way, less than 24 hours to know...

[Highly Psychological]

I think having Josh Eustis there...two guys on the electronic side of things will make a huge difference. Be interesting to see how Ilan's powerful drumming will fit in with a heavily electronic overall sound.

[jessamineny]

Would be amazed if you got more than CBH, pre Tension.


I recall hearing 7 new songs, from "With Teeth," during a show that occurred the month before its release. So, there is a strong possibility that we get more than 2 new songs from the new album. Either way, less than 24 hours to know...

The NYT article (see NIN Spotting) says "The band is introducing a few of the new songs before the album’s release as it plays headlining slots at 14 summer festivals worldwide." And in the Japan show thread (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/1544-2013-7-26-Naeba-Japan-Fuji-Rock-Festival?p=103367#post103367), @jjaks (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=86) says a friend heard the soundcheck and that it included multiple new tracks.

[dlb]

I can confirm that that's not the case here. Rest easy.

I know, I'm a fool for questioning Rob. After all these years I should know better. :D

[fillow]

Fuck. Something is telling to STOP READING ETS RIGHT NOW but just can't stop. Spoilers everywhere, and NIN haven't even played a show yet.
I think I'll just step from all NIN threads for a while... (except my show thread)... as long as there isn't any n00b starting a new thread called OMG NIN just played The Perfect Drug, it's gonna be fine.

I remember a few months when ets was in limbo between old and new boards, it was painful.

[theimage13]

I know, I'm a fool for questioning Rob. After all these years I should know better. :D

No, questioning Rob is fine. Questioning me would be fine, too. None of you know me in real life; you don't have any proof of my credentials. But yeah...it'll be more than just a couple color changes ;)


Fuck. Something is telling to STOP READING ETS RIGHT NOW but just can't stop. Spoilers everywhere, and NIN haven't even played a show yet.
I think I'll just step from all NIN threads for a while... (except my show thread)... as long as there isn't any n00b starting a new thread called OMG NIN just played The Perfect Drug, it's gonna be fine.

Just got a text from a friend who was doing rehearsals. They played it.




Just kidding.

[Moebius]

The only YZ songs played prior to release were Survivaliam and TBotE, and we already had the studio versions before they debuted.

Right, and even then, only 5 more additional YZ tracks were played on the YZ tour. It wasn't until over a year later that the remaining 6 YZ debuts occurred, on the Lights in the Sky tour.

[Moebius]

Now is definitely the time to stop reading if you don't want any tour spoilers.

http://pitchfork.com/news/51656-trent-reznor-details-nine-inch-nails-elaborate-new-live-show-inspired-by-talking-heads-stop-making-sense/

EDIT: original article in the NYTimes: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/28/arts/music/nine-inch-nails-is-back-onstage-with-a-vengeance.html?ref=arts&_r=0

[AgentofChaos]

That NYT article is very informative, thank you. Some errors of course but the substance was there. Loved hearing TR speak about this record and its connection to the NIN catalogue, and the way it became this weird mirror to TDS but in a completely different way.

"“I felt very aware that it’s 20 years later, and I’m still that guy,” he said. “I know that guy, and I feel for him. I don’t resent him, I don’t miss him. But how would things feel on the other side of that now, in a much more stable life place, mentally and physically, and with a new family?”

He added: “The incentive has changed. It’s not about, ‘I’m going to kill myself if I don’t get this out of my head.’ But the excavation and the architecture behind it, the motivation behind it, is similar.”


All but confirmed there will be a few new songs on this leg as well.

[simonn]

The NYT article (see NIN Spotting) says "The band is introducing a few of the new songs before the album’s release as it plays headlining slots at 14 summer festivals worldwide." And in the Japan show thread (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/1544-2013-7-26-Naeba-Japan-Fuji-Rock-Festival?p=103367#post103367), @jjaks (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=86) says a friend heard the soundcheck and that it included multiple new tracks.

Scary times. Good scary.

[ManBurning]

Well, now is about the time I need to stop coming to this website... at least the tour section. I do NOT want to see tomorrow's setlist or watch the video for that matter. I got lollapalooza to attend only 1 week away and I want to be surprised. This may be hard, but not THAT hard since I leave for vacation tomorrow anyway to start my trip, i'll be busy in Winnipeg with friends and family before I go to Chicago, so I don't think i'll have time for message boards anyway.

[simonn]

Standard setlist + new songs. Have to say, disappointed. Thought Trent was throwing out some of the songs that he felt didn't fit/feel right anymore (don't ask me for a link, but distinctly remember it being said). Since the departures of Belew and Avery, it seems he's backtracked and has gone back to being 'good old NIN' again. Hoped for something different. Won't stop me seeing them, obviously, but a little underwhelmed by that news. I do wonder whether he's playing it safe for festivals, and the reinvention (as he called it when he first announced the regrouping) of the live show will start when Tension does?

[Leviathant]

Standard setlist + new songs. Have to say, disappointed.

Holy shit they haven't even played a single song and this guy's disappointed. Oh, and underwhelmed.

Jesus Aitch Christ

[nowimdowninit]

You mean the band we know and love is just going to be the band we know and love? Bummer.

[icklekitty]

Holy shit they haven't even played a single song and this guy's disappointed. Oh, and underwhelmed.

Jesus Aitch Christ


How long have you been moderating NIN sites now?

[simonn]

Holy shit they haven't even played a single song and this guy's disappointed. Oh, and underwhelmed.

Jesus Aitch Christ

....basing it on soundcheck info as stated above.

Don't get me wrong, would still go mental whatever they played when I see them in the flesh, but would be nice for a bit of a change up wouldn't it? That's why many of us were stoked when that initial line up was announced and those 'reinvention' comments were made. Ditch the Closers/Hurts et al, and hear some less aired stuff - Even Deeper/Looking Forward/Sunspots for instance, and maybe even performed differently than originally recorded. That was certainly the vibe that was on this board back then anyway.

Hopefully be proved wrong...time will tell.

[jmtd]

The only YZ songs played prior to release were Survivaliam and TBotE, and we already had the studio versions before they debuted.

I'm fairly sure we got live tbote before studio, but perhaps I remember wrong. Maybe it was same day.

[BRoswell]

....basing it on soundcheck info as stated above.

You don't even know what standard means in that context. Could be a standard number of songs for a festival for all we know.

You know what they say about assuming...

[Avarik]

Man I hope they don't play any Nine Inch Nails songs I've ever heard before in my life or I'll be pissed. :rolleyes:

[thevoid99]

Hey, I'm cool with whatever they play. Just change it up every once in a while to make it more exciting. At least the set should have something sexy to groove to.

[Collin]

Imma guess what they're gonna play tomorrow. Not nessacarily what I want them to play, but just what they're most likely going to play. We'll see what happens. By the album:

PHM:

HLAH (I'd be shocked if this one doesn't get a play)
TL (Staple for a good reason)
SICNH (have a feeling they'll bust this old gem out)

B:

Wish
Physical (played a lot on the NINJA tour, and seems be a good festival-style track)

TDS:

MOTP
Closer
The Becoming
Hurt

TF: (hardest album to predict songs from)

Somewhat Damaged
WITT (A man can dream, right? But I feel it would be a good song to return with)
The Fragile

WT:

HTF
Only
The Line Beings to Blur (this one is a beast, it's GOTTA come back)
Right Where It Belongs (one of NIN's best songs, and hasn't been played too much since W_T tour, so...)

YZ: (got so much play on LITS that they'll probably give this one a little bit of a rest)

Survivalism

TS: (same mentality as YZ)

1,000,000 (this is one the best live NIN tracks, hope it stays in the set)

HM:

Came Back Haunted
The Eater of Dreams (most likely to open the show, in a very Trent-esque way)
Most likely another new track, who knows which one though

Other:

Burn (a good staple)

[Krazy]

^^^ From The Fragile- Just Like You Imagined.

Seriously one of the best live songs, and I can only imagine (no pun intended) how they can do the visuals- considering its an instrumental. Song gained a lot of ground from 300 and some of the WG shows.

Yeah, I hope they fucking play it.

[fuckit]

I hope they play more YZ songs. In this twilight seems likely. From the fragile i say TDTWWA and just like you imagined. I can't see the line begins to blur being played though

[simonn]

Dammit, in my excitement to see what they'd actually played, and hopefully to catch some of the stream belatedly before I go to work, I've got up at 4.30am UK time. Totally got the time wrong trying to convert from Japan to USA to UK times (was working backwards not forwards!!). :mad:

[thatguymark]

OK, Rob tweeted "@nineinchnails (https://twitter.com/nineinchnails) fans: If you’re going to any of the summer festival shows, try to resist spoilers (YT clips, webcasts). It will be more fun."

I'm guessing that means the festival setlist is going to be pretty rigid between shows. I'm also going to predict that the talk about "Stop Making Sense" means that Trent will play a song solo and the band will slowly join him one by one as the set progresses, meaning they play a song as a duo, one as a trio, one as a four-piece and then the rest of the set as a full band. Now what song gets the solo treatment is an interesting proposition. It seems like it would have to be one of the slower ones (Hurt, Something I Can Never Have, etc) or maybe something new, but it could be a very different version of anything else in the catalog. And then, what order will the band come on stage? My guess: 2- Robin, 3-Ilan, 4-Josh, 5-Alessandro. Or, it might all be done in the opening song, but with all the Talking Heads talk, I'm expecting a slow build throughout the set.

[Digital_Man]

opening with hurt would be really awesome and unexpected

[jessamineny]

I doubt the inspiration will that literal (one band member per full song).

[skullboy0]

OK, Rob tweeted "@nineinchnails (https://twitter.com/nineinchnails) fans: If you’re going to any of the summer festival shows, try to resist spoilers (YT clips, webcasts). It will be more fun."

Considering I couldn't see a damn thing when I saw them at Lollapalooza on the LITS tour, I'm totally watching the stream from Japan.

[Ruined]

Even though I'll be attending one of those festivals, next month, there's no way I'm missing this webcast. Damn, seeing the merch photos got me excited: It just made it real; the shows are happening, beginning in a few hours. Now I'll probably just stay up all night instead of waking at 5:30 a.m. Heh, maybe I'll use the time to finish playing "Dishonored." So glad they're webcasting it live.

[Emil Dorbell]

I'm not sure I can, but damn it, he has a point. One month of trying to hold back on all these awesome NIN news might be impossible though.

[howdidislipinto]

As I didn't manage to get SF tix in time, I won't be making it to a festival. Spoil away, internet streams!

...except then my internal debate about whether I want to hear the new songs outside of the context of the album kicks in, and I'm torn all over again.

[icklekitty]

IIRC "tour journal" is strictly for the people that attended once the show starts. Given that the first gig is in a couple of hours, should we start an "incessant sideline fapping" thread, or is that basically what this is?

I need to direct my orgasms appropriately.

[brokenfragility]

IIRC "tour journal" is strictly for the people that attended once the show starts. Given that the first gig is in a couple of hours, should we start an "incessant sideline fapping" thread, or is that basically what this is?

I need to direct my orgasms appropriately.

I would guess it would be here. On a side note I've pulled an all nighter for this one and I'm not sure I can make it. Will they be streaming any of the other bands? I would really like to see MBV. That would wake me up.

[kitz]

IIRC "tour journal" is strictly for the people that attended once the show starts. Given that the first gig is in a couple of hours, should we start an "incessant sideline fapping" thread, or is that basically what this is?

I need to direct my orgasms appropriately.
I support this idea :)

[dbrekke]

Um... http://s.ytimg.com/yts/img/meh7-vflGevej7.png
The uploader has not made this video available in your country.

[dlb]

sanctified!!!

this is so awesome!

[ltrandazzo]

I think this thread will be the fapping thread. Post over there with your excitement and jizz - http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/1948-Nine-Inch-Nails-Tour-Fapping-Thread

[slave2thewage]

I think it's a bit shit that Sanctified hasn't been played since the mid-90s. If YouKnowWho is reading, consider sorting this out.
Oh my. I'm off to play the lotto now.

[dlb]

Are there any news or rumors yet that deal with opening acts for the TENSION tour?

[icklekitty]

They were announced a while ago. Here's one of the announcements: http://www.theprp.com/2013/06/10/news/nine-inch-nails-announce-more-support-acts-for-tension-north-american-tour/

[dlb]

Thanks! I knew about Godspeed and Explosions in the Sky but Autolux and Numan are new to me. Sounds great!

[Fred]

Numan is new to you?! Man, you're gonna have a lot of really good music queued up now :D

[Beta]

sorry, i can't dig (right now) through all new threads since the tour started, but are there any shots where joshua eustis can be seen in some detail? would be interested in that. links please :)

[jessamineny]

http://fujirockexpress.net/13e/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/8_gs_nine_inch_nails_JulenEstebanPretel_DS21908.jp g

[dlb]

Numan is new to you?! Man, you're gonna have a lot of really good music queued up now :D

I of course know who Gary Numan is, but I did not know he'd be supporting NIN this time around. ;)

[nowimdowninit]

http://fujirockexpress.net/13e/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/8_gs_nine_inch_nails_JulenEstebanPretel_DS21908.jp g

Whoa, that's a Neumann mic. I'm thinking they are not planning on smashing stuff, cause that's not some disposable SM58 like the whole band had on previous tours.

http://www.neumann.com/?lang=en&id=current_microphones&cid=kms105d_description

Anyone catch what TR's got? Surely a Neumann, too?

EDIT: Looks like TR and Ally at least still have 58s. Interesting.

[scorpiusdiamond]

I think despite Trent being calmer, they'd still use the Beta 58s for him. Maybe the Neumann is a personal choice by Josh Eustis?

[nowimdowninit]

I think despite Trent being calmer, they'd still use the Beta 58s for him. Maybe the Neumann is a personal choice by Josh Eustis?

Yes, very likely. Either personal choice or for some reason it captures his voice better than other alternatives. A Neumann similar to that is favored by David Gilmour, so it's ideal for a voice with a certain ethereal quality I suppose. From what I can tell, that might describe Eustis. Note the very "sung" rather than "screamed" backing vocals in various places in the new lineup. Robin's very much a screamer, but Eustis, Rubin, and Cortini all have good singing voices, so I'm getting the feeling TR is letting that flourish a bit.

[gorast]

I think despite Trent being calmer, they'd still use the Beta 58s for him. Maybe the Neumann is a personal choice by Josh Eustis?

He demonstrated at Fuji Rock that he's not above knocking the mic stand over, still, so that might be why as well.

[littlemonkey613]

Mk so I NEED The Frail and Wretched. I NEED that new sounding awesome Nujabes like shit (Dissapointed) Wtf is going on that sounds ridiculously awesome. And I NEED The Way Out is Through and Immigrant Song with Karen O at Outside Lands. That is all. Simple requests Trent.

[scorpiusdiamond]

He demonstrated at Fuji Rock that he's not above knocking the mic stand over, still, so that might be why as well.

Wait, what? I missed that, what song?

[thefragile_jake]

In The Hand That Feeds at 2:20~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cJAciNjppvs&t=141

Although, it's the most lazy I've ever seen a mic get kicked over.

"Oh man, I've gotta kick that mic over right? Fuck, fiiiine..."

lolololololololol.

What an accurate description.

[Fist Fuck]

In The Hand That Feeds at 2:20~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cJAciNjppvs&t=141

Although, it's the most lazy I've ever seen a mic get kicked over.

"Oh man, I've gotta kick that mic over right? Fuck, fiiiine..."

"Oh shit, and now I've gotta pick it up by myself again? Ugh..."

[imail724]

In The Hand That Feeds at 2:20~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cJAciNjppvs&t=141

Although, it's the most lazy I've ever seen a mic get kicked over.

"Oh man, I've gotta kick that mic over right? Fuck, fiiiine..."lol Trent looks like a cat who just wants to knock shit down because its there.

[redshoewearer]

lol Trent looks like a cat who just wants to knock shit down because its there.

That is the most understated mic kick over I've ever seen him do.

[klyrish]

I'm watching the Fuji show now and so far I'm not sure...Trent's voice is definitely showing his age. I loved "Copy of A," though. And MotP's guitars are INSANE.

However, what the hell happened to 1,000,000? That song sounded awful! Was Robin playing a heavily-digitized steel guitar? Yikes. The best part of that song used to be him rocking the fuck out and now it just needs to be retired. At least in the current form.

[T33th]

How has no footage of Disappointed surfaced yet?! Dying to hear it.

[jmtd]

In The Hand That Feeds at 2:20~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cJAciNjppvs&t=141

Although, it's the most lazy I've ever seen a mic get kicked over.

"Oh man, I've gotta kick that mic over right? Fuck, fiiiine..."

Tried watching that over 3G but the recompression made it lol tastic. I counted three trents at one point.

[Fred]

lol Trent looks like a cat who just wants to knock shit down because its there.

:D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vepy3qghbYI

"Nothing can stop me now, cause I just don't care..."

[Emil Dorbell]

However, what the hell happened to 1,000,000? That song sounded awful!.

Unfortunately I agree with you. This used to be one of my favorite live tracks. What happened? Well, I know what happened... they scrapped guitars for synths which isn't always a great idea.

[Scarlet Siren]

Is anyone else going to Belfast > Leeds > Reading? :)

[Vertigo]

Thinking about Reading, it's just over an hour from me. Not sure yet though.

[bowler_hat]

I'm doing Leeds > Reading > Milan.

[Scarlet Siren]

I'm doing Leeds > Reading > Milan.

I wanted to go to Milan so much. Stupid bills, ugh!

[billpulsipher]

Mike Patton and Tomahawk are opening in Milan, which is sick

[thelastdisciple]

Unfortunately I agree with you. This used to be one of my favorite live tracks. What happened? Well, I know what happened... they scrapped guitars for synths which isn't always a great idea.
personally i think it sounded cool, like an electric chainsaw or something.

[thatguymark]

I have to agree with the disappointment on the new version of 1,000,000. The general electronic sound of the band threw me off on first listen, but the more I absorb the Fuji show, the more I'm loving it. The exception to that is 1,000,000. I just can't get over the synthy sound on that one particular song. It demands a guitar. But, whatever, I guess that's not going to happen this time around. I can sit through one subpar song version for a set of NIN goodness. Wasn't there a photo on twitter a while back from Josh with sheet music for The Becoming? I can't wait to hear what this band can do with that song.

[nowimdowninit]

I have to agree with the disappointment on the new version of 1,000,000. The general electronic sound of the band threw me off on first listen, but the more I absorb the Fuji show, the more I'm loving it. The exception to that is 1,000,000. I just can't get over the synthy sound on that one particular song. It demands a guitar. But, whatever, I guess that's not going to happen this time around. I can sit through one subpar song version for a set of NIN goodness. Wasn't there a photo on twitter a while back from Josh with sheet music for The Becoming? I can't wait to hear what this band can do with that song.

It was a synth patch named "Becoming" I think.

As for 1,000,000, I like the synth. The only sort of odd thing I noticed is, if you watch the 2008 DVD with The Slip, or if you were at a LITS show, you would have been treated to Ally playing backup guitar in the song. As far as I can tell from Fuji, his parts are all there, but it's taped. I didn't notice Ally playing the guitar at all, come to think of it.

Not a big deal, but I like it when TR makes Cortini work like a dog. :p

[tony.parente]

I have to agree with the disappointment on the new version of 1,000,000. The general electronic sound of the band threw me off on first listen, but the more I absorb the Fuji show, the more I'm loving it. The exception to that is 1,000,000. I just can't get over the synthy sound on that one particular song. It demands a guitar. Oh my god I just listened to it, what the fuck did they do to that track?!?!

No bueno.

[ImTheWiseJanitor]

Wait, what? I missed that, what song?

He also HURLS the mic stand during "Piggy," at 1:00, although very nonchalantly.

http://youtu.be/p5wuDHeuZ4Q?t=51s

[slave2thewage]

Josh Eustis is already my favourite bassist/whatever guy they've had in the band. Also, I'm scared because he's the first guy involved with NIN that I've found attractive. Haylp.

[scorpiusdiamond]

Is it bad that I saw that and thought nothing of it? I watch so much NIN I can almost predict his stage moves and intonations to the beat.
It kicked ass when I was photoing them though, I knew the exact moments in songs where there were cool moves coming up.

[butter_hole]

I don't mind the new 1,000,000 but I can't help but notice I think Robin doesn't play the riff right in the chorus?

[klyrish]

He doesn't. Yet another reason I don't like this new version. :-/

[Ash512]

FYI : I'm pretty sure the studio version of 1,000,000 is (for the most part) played on a synth too. That live arrangement is actually closer to the album version.
I like it.

[thelastdisciple]

I want Robin's intro to Only back! i fucking loved that shit!

[orestes]

Josh Eustis is already my favourite bassist/whatever guy they've had in the band. Also, I'm scared because he's the first guy involved with NIN that I've found attractive. Haylp.

That is one sexy bass line on "Sanctified".

[_incoma_]

Wow, really not getting the hate for 1,000,000. I wasn't like crazy hyped up till i just saw that. In a strange way it seems more vital and aggressive than ever. So far i've only seen Only, Wish and The Good Soldier. I'm really not trying to see too much of the set but it was the best of the four. I'm officially closing my eyes to spoilers till the San Antonio date.

[klyrish]

I want Robin's intro to Only back! i fucking loved that shit!

I miss Aaron's intro. The "rock" version of Only is my favorite.

EDIT:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5TrgBq-KgM

EDIT 2: after watching this, I miss the the ENTIRE "rock" version of this song.

[Emil Dorbell]

Wow, really not getting the hate for 1,000,000. I wasn't like crazy hyped up till i just saw that. In a strange way it seems more vital and aggressive than ever. So far i've only seen Only, Wish and The Good Soldier. I'm really not trying to see too much of the set but it was the best of the four. I'm officially closing my eyes to spoilers till the San Antonio date.

Maybe it comes across differently when you watch it? I only listened to the track to avoid any visual spoilers and was just sad to see those guitars scrapped. We'll get used to it though!

[Lee Hare]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGJdy2VRfDc Its in here pal, just to clarify i'm not the uploader, and take no credit.

[ensanchecedor]

Hate to say this but I think I'd be happier if one million and only were removed from the setlist. I've always liked both songs but listening to the fuji recording I've found them both somewhat anticlimatic. On the other hand, never thought I'd say this but Me I'm not should be played in every show (I guess I could change my mind about the subject anytime :D)

[gorny540]

Disappointment sounds very Radiohead like, I think the thing that needs to change in the setlists the most is the last 5-6 songs, they've basically been the same since YZ came out, would be nice to see things changed around and have shows not end always with THTF/HLAH/Hurt etc.

[sheepdean]

NHANNTNHANN into 1M (I love ridiculous acronyms) works so good as an opener, I think that's why it's weird to have just 1M by itself after a few songs

[scorpiusdiamond]

They did that a lot in the Wave Goodbye shows though.

[SM Rollinger]

Now Im Nothing, best opener ever.

I mean come on, opening a NIN show with NIN!

(in all seriousness, NIN into TL was the best ever. That and the waaaaay slowed down Pinion into Mr. Self Destruct was pretty choice too)

[thelastdisciple]

If you're doing any photography at future NIN shows, please don't forget to post them to the flickr groups!

http://www.flickr.com/groups/nin/ and http://www.flickr.com/groups/nintourarchive

[BenAkenobi]

I miss Aaron's intro. The "rock" version of Only is my favorite.


aaaaand guess what, i was DYING for this version to go away, and it did! happy happy happy :o

[jmtd]

Now Im Nothing, best opener ever.

I mean come on, opening a NIN show with NIN!

(in all seriousness, NIN into TL was the best ever. That and the waaaaay slowed down Pinion into Mr. Self Destruct was pretty choice too)

It had the happy side effect of making terrible lie rock from the outset: the buildup is otherwise a little slow for my tastes.

[pukkelpop]

Going from youtube-clips, Reptile has never sounded/looked better than in these 2 last shows.
The Way Out Is Through and Me,I'm Not are also winners in this production, imo.

[nowimdowninit]

Going from youtube-clips, Reptile has never sounded/looked better than in these 2 last shows.
The Way Out Is Through and Me,I'm Not are also winners in this production, imo.
Don't think Reptile was at Ansan, but your point is still valid.

[somewhat_]

I thought Numan was only going to be opening the Florida shows?

Numan will be joining (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/gary-numan-readies-new-album-single-out-now-20130730#ixzz2aZzF36FM)Nine Inch Nails (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/nine-inch-nails)on tour in North America from August through November at the personal invitation of Trent Reznor. (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/gary-numan-readies-new-album-single-out-now-20130730#ixzz2aZzF36FM)

[That other guy]

I putting my not so real 10 golden cookies on the line , Happiness in Slavery will be played 2x this tour and perfect drug will be played once ( Both in Cleveland , Oct 5th)...:rolleyes: ... one can dream right??

[NotoriousTIMP]

I'm seriously crossing my fingers that "Closer to God" gets played this time around.....we need a solid live recording of this track

[jmtd]

Going from youtube-clips, Reptile has never sounded/looked better than in these 2 last shows.
The Way Out Is Through and Me,I'm Not are also winners in this production, imo.

IMHO the reptile on "and all that could have been" is better than the Fuji one, but there's still time!

[kercyx]

I'm seriously crossing my fingers that "Closer to God" gets played this time around.....we need a solid live recording of this track

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyw0B1hc-fI
not too bad heh ?

[captainbeyond]

:D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vepy3qghbYI

"Nothing can stop me now, cause I just don't care..."

Nothing can stop me meow!

[howdidislipinto]

Is Rolling Stone talking out of their ass or is Numan joining the whole tour really happening? Because if so, HOLY FUCKING SHIT. Explosions/Numan/NIN? Could it get any better?

[Scarlet Siren]

I'm seriously crossing my fingers that "Closer to God" gets played this time around.....we need a solid live recording of this track

I would seriously die a happy woman if this happened! I'm pretty much done with the album version of Closer....

[jessamineny]

Is Rolling Stone talking out of their ass or is Numan joining the whole tour really happening? Because if so, HOLY FUCKING SHIT. Explosions/Numan/NIN? Could it get any better?

It's possible for the first part of the tour. Here are his tour dates (http://www.numan.co.uk/tour/). And none of the pre-Florida dates currently conflicts. And the ones in Atlanta and Brooklyn would put him in the right area for doing his own solo side-shows on adjacent off-NIN nights.

Edit: I dunno how I was lining those up before (Brooklyn?). I doubt there's anything but Florida.

[pukkelpop]

message to TR:
dont expect the same atmosphere at Pukkelpop, as on Lolla.
it was quickly sold out, and it will be packed with Eminem fans. but in the mass of teenagers, we will be there!

[NotoriousTIMP]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyw0B1hc-fI
not too bad heh ?

Oh nice find! I had no idea that there was video footage of this song being performed lived, I've only heard the shitty recordings from the warm-up tour

[Vertigo]

but in the mass of Eminem fans, we will be there!
[we will be there]

On hands and knees.

...After being knocked over by the horde of drunk kids with bleached hair and oversized sports vests.

[fuckit]

this has probably been mentioned 20 times already, but does anyone think NIN will put on a proper arena show in chicago anytime before march?

[skullboy0]

this has probably been mentioned 20 times already, but does anyone think NIN will put on a proper arena show in chicago anytime before march?

Going by what happened last time they played Lollapalooza & that was the only LITS tour show in Chicago, probably not.

[Krazy]

If there's a second US leg to the tour in 2014 I wouldn't put Chicago out of the question. It's the 3rd largest city in the US and wouldn't necessarily judge it by Lolla 2008.

Curious to find out what they plan on doing for 2014. International tour is obvious (Australian rumors are most likely legit). Perhaps a mid to late summer ampitheater tour again. Can't wait for the announcements- most likely late in the tour or December.

[fuckit]

that sounds about right. i think they didn't see the need to do a lits show here since the lolla show had the same setup anyways, minus a few songs. but tension will be different than tour 2013. bad news for me. thankfully there's a new album that'll will hold me down for a long time.

[billpulsipher]

for the record, I dig the new version of 1,000,000. I dream of the day when TR wipes out all guitars from the live show and goes all electronic

[skullboy0]

If there's a second US leg to the tour in 2014 I wouldn't put Chicago out of the question. It's the 3rd largest city in the US and wouldn't necessarily judge it by Lolla 2008.

Yeah, but I'm guessing there wouldn't be a 2nd US leg to the tour before March, which is the question that was asked. I doubt there will be any dates added to the currently announced Tension tour dates, they'll probably take December off for the holidays. & when they start up again next year I would think they'd hit overseas markets first since they just did most of the US between the festival dates & the Tension tour.

[Krazy]

Yeah, but I'm guessing there wouldn't be a 2nd US leg to the tour before March, which is the question that was asked. I doubt there will be any dates added to the currently announced Tension tour dates, they'll probably take December off for the holidays. & when they start up again next year I would think they'd hit overseas markets first since they just did most of the US between the festival dates & the Tension tour.

Ahhh... looking at it again I missed the "March/march" part. Yeah, highly unlikely unless they decide to do a 2nd US leg at the end of the year or start of 2014.

[skullboy0]

Ahhh... looking at it again I missed the "March/march" part. Yeah, highly unlikely unless they decide to do a 2nd US leg at the end of the year or start of 2014.

No problem, if it would've been just "do you think NIN will be back in Chicago by the end of next year" I probably would've replied "Yes, but the production may or may not be the same as the Tension tour"

[The_Prowler]

It had the happy side effect of making terrible lie rock from the outset: the buildup is otherwise a little slow for my tastes.
I'm of the opposite mind with the slowed down Pinion intro. They did that when I saw them in 05, and then immediately went into Love Is Not Enough. I swear Pinion lasted about five minutes and just kept getting slower and slower, and the buildup of anticipation for the first song was just driving everyone (myself included) absolutely insane. By the time the intro for Love Is Not Enough started, the crowd was completely rabid. I'm hoping they do something similar on this tour.
Then again, I'd love to see Now I'm Nothing as the opener; especially if it were as perfect as it was at Mountain View:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn-arvfoY0Q

[jmtd]

That's... A fantastic capture of those two songs. Perhaps the best I've heard. Thanks!

[icklekitty]

No problem, if it would've been just "do you think NIN will be back in Chicago by the end of next year" I probably would've replied "Yes, but the production may or may not be the same as the Tension tour"

It looks like we're going to get them in the dead of winter (i.e. any time between January and June). They seem fond of amphitheatre tours in the US, so maybe that next summer? There's a reason Chicago was a part of that final(lol) run of shows in 2009, I'm sure.

[butter_hole]

I'm of the opposite mind with the slowed down Pinion intro. They did that when I saw them in 05, and then immediately went into Love Is Not Enough. I swear Pinion lasted about five minutes and just kept getting slower and slower, and the buildup of anticipation for the first song was just driving everyone (myself included) absolutely insane. By the time the intro for Love Is Not Enough started, the crowd was completely rabid. I'm hoping they do something similar on this tour.
Then again, I'd love to see Now I'm Nothing as the opener; especially if it were as perfect as it was at Mountain View:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn-arvfoY0Qgod its weird seeing them on such a small stage with no visible crowd. i swear they're playing to about 9 people!

[SM Rollinger]

I'm of the opposite mind with the slowed down Pinion intro. They did that when I saw them in 05, and then immediately went into Love Is Not Enough. I swear Pinion lasted about five minutes and just kept getting slower and slower, and the buildup of anticipation for the first song was just driving everyone (myself included) absolutely insane. By the time the intro for Love Is Not Enough started, the crowd was completely rabid.

Kinda like Woodstock 94? Youtube some videos, that crowd was absolutley ready to explode before Terrible Lie started. My personal favorite NIN show ever. But thats besides the point.

I just wanted to drop in and say that I really hope Sin returns to the regular setlist. I know they played it in 09 and it had some killer new synth tones being used. Just totally badass sounding. If it came back in a way that was similar to Terrible Lie, that would rock.

Ok thats all i have for now.

[Krazy]

I fucking love the "extnded" Pinion as an intro. Get chills at the shows it's been played at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0uhPbZdxZo

[Torgo]

Then again, I'd love to see Now I'm Nothing as the opener; especially if it were as perfect as it was at Mountain View:


For a moment, I thought you were linking to my video - but that's not Mountain View. That's Kansas City. We - unfortunately - did not get 'Now I'm Nothing.'

[downward]

Has there been any pics of any merch at the festivals ?

[Inkë]

https://twitter.com/nineinchnails/status/365112861749559299
Oh well.

[Christo]

Aaaaaaaaarrrggggghhhhh

way to stress me out for the next 2 days!!

[dlb]

This slowly turns out to be the worst year in my life to be looking for a new job. I never needed money in my life and didn't have it, and then... NIN! :D

Cheapest flight for me is about 250€... and the flight back is from Gatwick. Never in my lifetime will I return to this airport ever again! :D

[somewhat_]

https://twitter.com/nineinchnails/status/365112861749559299
Oh well.

This is the type of thing I was hoping they would do before/after Lollapalooza. Oh well, hopefully they will do an entire club/theatre tour next year.

[sheepdean]

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

I am going to have to suck a lot of cock in the next two days

[scorpiusdiamond]

Hell yeah! And here's me thinking I wasn't going to see them til next year :)

[WorzelG]

I'm gonna be on tenterhooks till Friday

[jmtd]

Hey! I really did pick the worst time to go on honeymoon!

[Kamelion]

Fuck yeah, a shot at seeing NIN this year! A pretty small shot, given the quantum crapshoot that is buying tickets online, but hey. Roll the dice.

[TheRealNs1]

I just wanted to drop in and say that I really hope Sin returns to the regular setlist. I know they played it in 09 and it had some killer new synth tones being used. Just totally badass sounding. If it came back in a way that was similar to Terrible Lie, that would rock.



ehhhh. I heard it on the '09 tour in Santa Barbara and was not impressed...it's one of my favorite songs on AATCHB too. It just sounded....thin.

[The_Prowler]

For a moment, I thought you were linking to my video - but that's not Mountain View. That's Kansas City. We - unfortunately - did not get 'Now I'm Nothing.'
My apologies. I always thought that was the Mountain View show, and when you do a YouTube search for "Nine Inch Nails Live Now I'm Nothing Mountain View" or something similar, that's usually the first video that comes up.

[FernandoDante]

NIN supposedly playing Lollapalooza Brazil/Chile next year =)))))

[andre78]

NIN supposedly playing Lollapalooza Brazil/Chile next year =)))))

Yay! It's all over the web (http://rollingstone.uol.com.br/noticia/depeche-mode-e-nine-inch-nails-devem-tocar-no-lollapalooza-brasil-em-2014/) here in Brazil: NIN and Depeche Mode are the first two acts confirmed for Brazil and Chile's 2014 editions of Lollapallooza Festival.

Though most music websites are taking it as unconfirmed news yet, here in Brazil we got this very informed journalist, Jose Norberto Flesch ( a trusty insider in music tours and festivals, only disclosing news about upcoming concerts when everything is sure - here's a print (http://whiplash.net/diversos/imagem.mv?url=http://whiplash.org/imagens-n/temp06/1375937349.jpg) of his newspaper page with the news ), who confirmed it as 100% on. Anyways, we should hear news from festival organizers anytime this coming weeks. Chile's edition will be selling tickets anytime soon, probably right when Brazil's organizers will disclose its edition details.

Lollapalooza Chile is set to March 29 and 30th, at Parque O'Higgins in Santiago.

Lollapalooza Brazil is in and early stage of confirmation, but it all points out to be set at April 05 and 06th, at Campo de Marte in Sao Paulo.

[theimage13]

No problem, if it would've been just "do you think NIN will be back in Chicago by the end of next year" I probably would've replied "Yes, but the production may or may not be the same as the Tension tour"

If NIN plays Chicago next summer, just pray that it's not at Notherly Island.

[skullboy0]

If NIN plays Chicago next summer, just pray that it's not at Notherly Island.

& if it is it's warmer than last time.;)

If they do play there again, I'll bring a sweatshirt this time if there's any chance of it being cool. That Wave Goodbye long sleeve was paper-thin, that & the 2 shirts I had on weren't enough to keep me warm.

[ninperu]

NIN supposedly playing Lollapalooza Brazil/Chile next year =)))))


Yay! It's all over the web (http://rollingstone.uol.com.br/noticia/depeche-mode-e-nine-inch-nails-devem-tocar-no-lollapalooza-brasil-em-2014/) here in Brazil: NIN and Depeche Mode are the first two acts confirmed for Brazil and Chile's 2014 editions of Lollapallooza Festival.

Though most music websites are taking it as unconfirmed news yet, here in Brazil we got this very informed journalist, Jose Norberto Flesch ( a trusty insider in music tours and festivals, only disclosing news about upcoming concerts when everything is sure - here's a print (http://whiplash.net/diversos/imagem.mv?url=http://whiplash.org/imagens-n/temp06/1375937349.jpg) of his newspaper page with the news ), who confirmed it as 100% on. Anyways, we should hear news from festival organizers anytime this coming weeks. Chile's edition will be selling tickets anytime soon, probably right when Brazil's organizers will disclose its edition details.

Lollapalooza Chile is set to March 29 and 30th, at Parque O'Higgins in Santiago.

Lollapalooza Brazil is in and early stage of confirmation, but it all points out to be set at April 05 and 06th, at Campo de Marte in Sao Paulo.

Hey guys, i've just create a threads for this, we deserve it... http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/2012-Nine-Inch-Nails-Southamerica-2014?p=108944#post108944

[Scarlet Siren]

What's this about a Leeds show after the festival??


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[rhet]

What's this about a Leeds show after the festival??

where did you see that?

[Scarlet Siren]

where did you see that?

I read it, FB I think but I suspect it was wishful thinking on someone else's part or they were talking absolute shite and starting rumours.

It's a nice idea though right?! ;)

[rhet]

I read it, FB I think but I suspect it was wishful thinking on someone else's part or they were talking absolute shite and starting rumours.

It's a nice idea though right?! ;)

yeah i could maaaybe swing a trip to leeds as i have relatives nearby.. will just have to stick with trying to beg my way into the Scala for now!

[dbrekke]

THIS SOUNDS SO EXCITING:
"...an environment that you come into, that we created..."

And I'll be at the first show in St. Paul, MN to experience it with my 11 year old (his 1st show, my 12th)!

[jessamineny]

Dear TR: You know those "open dates" on the East Coast? My collection of club show wristbands would like some new friends...

[somewhat_damaged]

TRs latest tweet to the Aussie fans:
"Australia: we love you and we're coming. Didn't feel Soundwave was the right vibe for us or our fans - working on a better scenario"

This would be a direct stab back at soundwave organiser AJ Maddah: http://musicfeeds.com.au/news/aj-mad...ated-audience/ (http://musicfeeds.com.au/news/aj-maddah-says-nine-inch-nails-turned-down-soundwave-for-a-more-sophisticated-audience/)

[ManBurning]

Just dawned on me tonight... The festival leg of this tour is coming to an end really quickly. After Made in America, they really only have less than 4 weeks to plan the Tension part of the tour. The fellas have alot of studying to do over these next few weeks. If the next leg is supposed to be even bigger and better than the festival run, they don't have much time to perfect it!

I hope that means they won't be sticking with this run of the mill setlist, but they don't have much time to learn a whole new set of 30 songs, do they? They can't keep riding off the same 4 new songs when Tension starts. Something tells me they rehearsed alot more new songs between May-July than they want us to believe.

I wonder if the tracks we got in the "leaked" rehearsal stuff had stuff omitted. Maybe Trent knew it would leak and took precautions to omit (delete) songs he felt weren't ready to be heard by the public (like Everything for example, the song was on the original Lollapalooza setlist but was scrapped for whatever reason, so obviously the track was rehearsed). Much like SICNH, Reptile, Somewhat Damaged and The Begining Of The End have all been played live as well, but none of those tracks are in the leaked rehearsal footage either.

I have a feeling he has 2 rehearsal sets. They probably have another tape hidden away somewhere on extreme lockdown with stuff that will be debuting live for Tension 2013.

[dlb]

I guess we shouldn't get our hopes up too high and not wait for a total re-invention of the band. There are only so many songs to play and we have heard them all somewhere down the way apart from a handfull of songs that yet have to make a live debut. Guess there will always be hurt, head like a hole, march of the pigs, gave up etc. Maybe with the link that HM has to TDS we will get more songs off the latter which is perfectly fine with me.

What we definitely WILL end up with are more songs from hesitation marks and I sure as hell hope TR decides to play the majority of the album.

Most exciting thing for me is how NIN will look during the tension tour and how this differs from what we are seeing right now.

[Ryan]

TRs latest tweet to the Aussie fans:
"Australia: we love you and we're coming. Didn't feel Soundwave was the right vibe for us or our fans - working on a better scenario"

This would be a direct stab back at soundwave organiser AJ Maddah: http://musicfeeds.com.au/news/aj-mad...ated-audience/ (http://musicfeeds.com.au/news/aj-maddah-says-nine-inch-nails-turned-down-soundwave-for-a-more-sophisticated-audience/)

Awesome news.

[PUNCHLINE]

Just dawned on me tonight... The festival leg of this tour is coming to an end really quickly. After Made in America, they really only have less than 4 weeks to plan the Tension part of the tour. The fellas have alot of studying to do over these next few weeks. If the next leg is supposed to be even bigger and better than the festival run, they don't have much time to perfect it!

I hope that means they won't be sticking with this run of the mill setlist, but they don't have much time to learn a whole new set of 30 songs, do they? They can't keep riding off the same 4 new songs when Tension starts. Something tells me they rehearsed alot more new songs between May-July than they want us to believe.

I wonder if the tracks we got in the "leaked" rehearsal stuff had stuff omitted. Maybe Trent knew it would leak and took precautions to omit (delete) songs he felt weren't ready to be heard by the public (like Everything for example, the song was on the original Lollapalooza setlist but was scrapped for whatever reason, so obviously the track was rehearsed). Much like SICNH, Reptile, Somewhat Damaged and The Begining Of The End have all been played live as well, but none of those tracks are in the leaked rehearsal footage either.

I have a feeling he has 2 rehearsal sets. They probably have another tape hidden away somewhere on extreme lockdown with stuff that will be debuting live for Tension 2013.

Plans and rehearsals for the Tension leg would have started a while ago, they wouldnt just wait until after one leg finished to start planning the next one. Besides, there was a photo somewhere of someone's keyobard (Allessandro or Josh?) showing the name Becoming on the preset loaded in, so that song at least has been rehearsed, as an example.

[fillow]

The leaked rehearsal tape is obviously a full festival-production rehearsal, hence the setlist. All the songs (including all extra Tension tour stuff) has been learned and rehearsed song-by-song a long time ago, I believe.

[fabripav]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NwgIhDzlN4

[hani]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NwgIhDzlN4

I knew it, TR fucking said it - inspired by Kraftwerk. of course :D :D :D I FUCKIN KNEW IT

[Space Suicide]

I was just about to post that. Great insight and lovely backstage tidbits. Can't wait for part 2.

[hani]

I was just about to post that. Great insight and lovely backstage tidbits. Can't wait for part 2.

Rob tweeted that pt 2 is about the arena tour and it's gonna be on Vevo later this year

[snaapz]

Had an interesting thought while watching Tour Exposed. Roy Bennett mentions how many bands say "just go for it, and I piece it together" but TR & Rob want to know how everything works etc...

Reminds me of "smash it apart, just for the fuck of it" ; Maybe it never was for the fuck of it, but rather to break it down to the root to better understand it and know how it works...

Either way I can appreciate Rob and Trent, I couldn't imagine giving a role to someone which includes complete control and creativity while not having an understanding or touch points on how things are developing. Not taking away from each members input, but this video gives me a better feeling that every aspect, light colour, movement, environment etc... is crafted by TR and RS. They are simply given the tools and know how.

That's a lot of fucking software & interfaces. I'd be interested to see what backup they have. I.E. a backup system in sync they can fail over to?

Now, if TR can manage this tour without tossing a guitar at one of the risers than we may all might be able to see this in action!

P.S. I've always wanted to see a band bring the lighting off the stage too. I.E. lightweight bright LED strobes cob-webbed over GA.

/end possibly outer space thoughts

[TheRealNs1]

Just dawned on me tonight... The festival leg of this tour is coming to an end really quickly. After Made in America, they really only have less than 4 weeks to plan the Tension part of the tour. The fellas have alot of studying to do over these next few weeks. If the next leg is supposed to be even bigger and better than the festival run, they don't have much time to perfect it!

hotel rooms and busses give a lot of time for practice.