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eversonpoe
01-14-2021, 02:17 PM
Today I learned NIN did a unique version of Terrible Lie intro on Australian 2009 tour with TR playing keys. They abandoned this intro for NINJA and later tours.

is there a show that contains this version on ninlive ?

fillow
01-14-2021, 02:56 PM
is there a show that contains this version on @ninlive (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1141) ?

These two shows have TL but Trent don't play that synth at the start :( so no.
https://ninlive.com/shows/2009/20090217.html
https://ninlive.com/shows/2009/20090224.html (https://ninlive.com/shows/2009/20090217.html)

Here's a video (by our Ryan I think?) from Sydney you can see a tech with a flashlight doing something on that synth, probably trying to fix it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAE0VhG90wg

TheBang
01-14-2021, 03:05 PM
is there a show that contains this version on @ninlive (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1141) ?
There's no recording of that Adelaide show, but the other recordings on that tour had similar, but different and unique, improvised intros to Terrible Lie. Worth a listen:

https://ninlive.com/archives/2009.html

Erneuert
01-14-2021, 06:46 PM
These two shows have TL but Trent don't play that synth at the start :( so no.
https://ninlive.com/shows/2009/20090217.html
https://ninlive.com/shows/2009/20090224.html (https://ninlive.com/shows/2009/20090217.html)

Here's a video (by our Ryan I think?) from Sydney you can see a tech with a flashlight doing something on that synth, probably trying to fix it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAE0VhG90wg

Ah, I miss those days. My camera died right when The Fragile started.

Exocet
01-14-2021, 10:19 PM
you pick that over the Perfect Drug single?

Perfect Drug EP is weird too, but i think some of the remixes are interesting, Trent seemed like he was taking things in an exciting direction.

its only the Orb remix which sucks, although the Orb is one of my favourite artists and legendary, the remix was a joke.

the EP is Very 1997
Meat Beat Manifesto, Plug, Spacetime Continuum are all really great electronic artists, Trent spoke a lot in the mid 90s talking about being influenced by electronica a lot more.
He spoke fondly of Goldie and Drum and Bass...

he had Nothing records promote and release loads of. warp records electronic material like Autechre into American markets.
this electronic influence did not really emerge on the Fragile which came out two years later, but Perfect Drug EP is an insight to something interesting from that period which might have gone somewhere.

sweeterthan
01-15-2021, 08:47 AM
please let him tour with the longer hair. please!


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bgalbraith
01-23-2021, 01:19 AM
Thinking of 2021 as just the next loop of the tape in The Background World, so made this
https://youtu.be/qLNGsuqASPA

Erneuert
01-23-2021, 02:47 AM
These two shows have TL but Trent don't play that synth at the start :( so no.
https://ninlive.com/shows/2009/20090217.html
https://ninlive.com/shows/2009/20090224.html (https://ninlive.com/shows/2009/20090217.html)

Here's a video (by our Ryan I think?) from Sydney you can see a tech with a flashlight doing something on that synth, probably trying to fix it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAE0VhG90wg

Speaking of this show, they should open with The Frail/The Wretched more often.

https://youtu.be/x7tW0cdbevo

NIN –Downward Spiral Book
01-23-2021, 12:16 PM
NEW – Edith Bowman interviews Reznor and Ross on Soundtrack Podcast!


Hello NIN fans!


BBC Radio presenter Edith Bowman talks to the dynamic duo about their soundtrack work – a really great podcast series – definitely check out the other episodes!

https://adamsteiner.uk/2021/01/23/new-edith-bowman-interviews-reznor-and-ross-on-soundtrack-podcast (https://adamsteiner.uk/2021/01/23/new-edith-bowman-interviews-reznor-and-ross-on-soundtrack-podcast)


I’ll be publishing a long form essay going in-depth on the making-of The Social Network soundtrack soon – coming soon on my blog.


My book INTO THE NEVER – a deep dive through The Downward Spiral is available now!

https://adamsteiner.uk/nine-inch-nails-into-the-never/


(https://adamsteiner.uk/2021/01/23/new-edith-bowman-interviews-reznor-and-ross-on-soundtrack-podcast)

Endlessly
01-24-2021, 03:58 PM
Today I was again reminded of the Rock-afire Explosion cover of 1,000,000:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbnN6QmdrH4

Frozen Beach
01-26-2021, 09:05 PM
Dear Trent, please cover Shock the Monkey by Peter Gabriel. Thanks.

eversonpoe
01-26-2021, 11:55 PM
Dear Trent, please cover Shock the Monkey by Peter Gabriel. Thanks.

i feel like that'd be a great HTDA cover!

Disassociative
01-27-2021, 12:25 AM
I’ve been watching some concerts from 1994 and 1995, specially performances of Happiness in Slavery. Good lord those poor keyboards.

MrLobster
01-27-2021, 02:32 AM
I’ve been watching some concerts from 1994 and 1995, specially performances of Happiness in Slavery. Good lord those poor keyboards.

They insulted his choice of corn starch... it was completely understandable. :)

Endlessly
01-27-2021, 02:48 PM
I’ve been watching some concerts from 1994 and 1995, specially performances of Happiness in Slavery. Good lord those poor keyboards.

What was that one interview where TR explained "well, when the electronics fuck up, they deserve to be punished"?

botley
01-27-2021, 03:15 PM
What was that one interview where TR explained "well, when the electronics fuck up, they deserve to be punished"?

They're DX7s, they deserve whatever punishment is doled out regardless.

On the Fragility tour, they smashed so many of these they had to advertise on Sweetwater (https://www.sweetwater.com/insync/nine-inch-nails-needs-dx-7/) for more.

Pyract
01-27-2021, 03:20 PM
What was that one interview where TR explained "well, when the electronics fuck up, they deserve to be punished"?
@ 1:52


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOf8kaj5cks

m0reta
01-27-2021, 06:23 PM
For you Self Destruct Tour keyboard enthusiasts out there:

http://web.archive.org/web/19990429181025/http://www.wmld.com/album_main.html

Shout out to IRC channel #amnin circa 1997 for the memories tied to this topic!

Disassociative
01-28-2021, 12:46 AM
I just found the scope and thoroughness of the destruction fascinating. The only Self Destruct era concert I had watched through until now was Woodstock and some of the shows later in the tour make that one look tame lol.

TheBang
01-28-2021, 08:31 PM
For you Self Destruct Tour keyboard enthusiasts out there:

http://web.archive.org/web/19990429181025/http://www.wmld.com/album_main.html

Shout out to IRC channel #amnin circa 1997 for the memories tied to this topic!
https://web.archive.org/web/19990209093247/http://www.wmld.com/alb/album13.html
My first show. I remember walking past that twisted pile of wreckage on the way out.

Magnetic
01-28-2021, 11:00 PM
My first big concert, and first NIN was Nov '94. My older sister graciously took me and my bf, even though she wasn't as into NIN as I was. I think it was a Pinion intro, but Mr. Self Destruct was the chaotic beginning. I was right up against the rail with my sister and bf.
My ears were ringing for a solid day after. Going to school the day after was weird. I had this TR image bootleg t-shirt I bought in Philadelphia in July '94. I couldn't hear much, but suddenly I was a not-so-anonymous goth kid.

I wish I could go back for that.

Max
01-29-2021, 12:40 PM
My first big concert, and first NIN was Nov '94. My older sister graciously took me and my bf, even though she wasn't as into NIN as I was. I think it was a Pinion intro, but Mr. Self Destruct was the chaotic beginning. I was right up against the rail with my sister and bf.
My ears were ringing for a solid day after. Going to school the day after was weird. I had this TR image bootleg t-shirt I bought in Philadelphia in July '94. I couldn't hear much, but suddenly I was a not-so-anonymous goth kid.

I wish I could go back for that.

SO funny, my memory of Night of Nothing show with NIN in ATL is the same - walking out after the show feeling like my hearing was lost forever. It was such a small venue and the speakers were SO loud. I cannot imagine how Trent or any of these guys have ANY hearing left.

WorzelG
01-29-2021, 02:22 PM
I’ve read something quite sinister on Twitter about QAnon’s early attempts to infiltrate groups and this guy says there was a 2003-2005 attempt to radicalise fans of ICP and NIN? I wasn’t around online till about 2007 so can anyone remember if this is a thing?

https://twitter.com/JerryFalwellJrP/status/1355214927666020353?s=20

Indefinite_Cure
01-29-2021, 03:45 PM
I’ve read something quite sinister on Twitter about QAnon’s early attempts to infiltrate groups and this guy says there was a 2003-2005 attempt to radicalise fans of ICP and NIN? I wasn’t around online till about 2007 so can anyone remember if this is a thing?

https://twitter.com/JerryFalwellJrP/status/1355214927666020353?s=20

If that is true, not only is it completely nuts, but it may have fuelled Trent's inspiration for Year Zero. Pure speculation of course!

WorzelG
01-29-2021, 04:20 PM
If that is true, not only is it completely nuts, but it may have fuelled Trent's inspiration for Year Zero. Pure speculation of course!
I’ve been reading a load of stuff about QAnon because of Marjorie Taylor Greene who is QAnon and shouted abuse at some poor lad involved in a school shooting which she says is a hoax and she’s on a fucking education committee for the Republicans and I came across this!

onthewall2983
01-31-2021, 02:48 PM
I read a Letterboxd review of Rush: Beyond the Lighted Stage, that used one of his quotes and all I could think of was "'concoction' is such a Trent word".

HWB
01-31-2021, 03:51 PM
Just re-listened to Not The Actual Events and I am blown away at how good it is, I feel spoiled as a fan to get some thing like "Burning Bright" this late into Trent's career, some people felt like the EP was not heavy enough..which I don't get, some of these songs are heavy as fuck

Max
02-01-2021, 02:54 PM
If that is true, not only is it completely nuts, but it may have fuelled Trent's inspiration for Year Zero. Pure speculation of course!
NO, this is not true at ALL. Q-Anon was not a thing back then. It did not exist until October of 2017. It began in the bowels of the internet (4chan. etc.) as much of the Alt-Right and other bullshit originally excreted from.

So no, that was not a thing.

zecho
02-01-2021, 07:09 PM
NO, this is not true at ALL. Q-Anon was not a thing back then. It did not exist until October of 2017. It began in the bowels of the internet (4chan. etc.) as much of the Alt-Right and other bullshit originally excreted from.

So no, that was not a thing.

Even without the qanon tie in, it's still not true. At no point in NIN's history has anything like that happened. Also, nothing else in that guy's twitter thread is true either. And outside of that thread, he posts a lot of other conspiracy theory bullshit as well.

Disassociative
02-02-2021, 12:46 AM
Just re-listened to Not The Actual Events and I am blown away at how good it is, I feel spoiled as a fan to get some thing like "Burning Bright" this late into Trent's career, some people felt like the EP was not heavy enough..which I don't get, some of these songs are heavy as fuck

After HTDA and Hesitation Marks (both of which I loved don't get me wrong) Not The Actual Events blew me away. Heavy, noisy, gritty sounding NIN found its way back to us. First time I listened to Burning Bright I put it on repeat for so long.

WorzelG
02-02-2021, 05:03 AM
NO, this is not true at ALL. Q-Anon was not a thing back then. It did not exist until October of 2017. It began in the bowels of the internet (4chan. etc.) as much of the Alt-Right and other bullshit originally excreted from.

So no, that was not a thing.
Fair enough I wasn’t online or using forums till 2007 but ETS was pretty shitty back then so it wouldn’t surprise me that’s all

Haysey
02-02-2021, 06:53 AM
Fair enough I wasn’t online or using forums till 2007 but ETS was pretty shitty back then so it wouldn’t surprise me that’s all

I remember originally joining the ETS back in 2007 (i had only got into the net as a thing in 2004, but this was the first forum i joined...actually one of the only ones!) I remember i caused a bit of an argument when i asked how likely a recording on one of the Brixton shows would show up. Some were angry i asked so soon after the show and others defended me for just asking and not demanding the info...i didn't come back for awhile lol.

WorzelG
02-02-2021, 07:57 AM
I remember originally joining the ETS back in 2007 (i had only got into the net as a thing in 2004, but this was the first forum i joined...actually one of the only ones!) I remember i caused a bit of an argument when i asked how likely a recording on one of the Brixton shows would show up. Some were angry i asked so soon after the show and others defended me for just asking and not demanding the info...i didn't come back for awhile lol.
It was just filled with people getting ludicrously angry over everything, I mean some of it was entertaining but not in a ‘I’d like to join in’ kind of way

allegate
02-02-2021, 11:06 AM
semi-related: there's a message board I used to frequent and now only lurk because of how toxic the members got. they act like complete asses and then bitch like little kids when one of the abusive fucks get banned.

I now have all of those people on mute and there are sometimes entire pages of "this post is by someone on your list" and it's so much easier. until someone quotes them, ugh. lol

HWB
02-02-2021, 01:14 PM
After HTDA and Hesitation Marks (both of which I loved don't get me wrong) Not The Actual Events blew me away. Heavy, noisy, gritty sounding NIN found its way back to us. First time I listened to Burning Bright I put it on repeat for so long.
I have a very vivid memory of me listening to NTAE for the first time, it's probably one of the best album/EP launches I've ever experienced. Listening to Branches/Bones and The Idea Of You for the first time..dude I was SO happy, this was so fucking nasty and heavy and I never imagined Trent would ever scream like that ever again, it was like a dream come true. I always wanted NIN to put on this incredibly dark/slower more tense sound and they did it perfectly.

Haysey
02-03-2021, 03:56 AM
semi-related: there's a message board I used to frequent and now only lurk because of how toxic the members got. they act like complete asses and then bitch like little kids when one of the abusive fucks get banned.

I now have all of those people on mute and there are sometimes entire pages of "this post is by someone on your list" and it's so much easier. until someone quotes them, ugh. lol

Not to derail this tread but that sounds a lot like the few anime forums i joined...a lot of those places are filled with the worst people. Which sucks because i'd love to talk about anime, but not with the people on them :(

thefragile_jake
02-03-2021, 10:59 PM
It’ll probably never happen, but I think the live album of And All That Could Have Been would be incredible on vinyl. Would love for it to get an LP release, but won’t hold my breath.

eversonpoe
02-04-2021, 12:38 PM
It’ll probably never happen, but I think the live album of And All That Could Have Been would be incredible on vinyl. Would love for it to get an LP release, but won’t hold my breath.

as long as they fix the audio (or properly extract it from the DVD)

personally i'm more invested in Still eventually being pressed (which trent promised in...2017 at the Reckless Q&A)

thefragile_jake
02-04-2021, 02:29 PM
as long as they fix the audio (or properly extract it from the DVD)

personally i'm more invested in Still eventually being pressed (which trent promised in...2017 at the Reckless Q&A)

Oh for sure, I think outside of grabbing the Slip which is still in "coming soon" mode ... finally getting Still on wax is what I'm most eager on. I watched the video below last night and it got me thinking to what a fun listen that album is.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYKHkXMEczQ

r_z
02-08-2021, 03:14 PM
So I managed to smuggle some NIN coolnes into the promotional video of our school by scoring a scene with a song from Ghosts. ;)

eachpassingphase
02-08-2021, 05:12 PM
I love the Target "Buy 2 get 1 free" deals that happen for vinyl somewhat regularly. Snatched Deviations and Quake among my 3, and saved a good chunk of change.

Endlessly
02-14-2021, 11:23 AM
A blast from the past...

https://64.media.tumblr.com/b1d3b5daa62a758e843a182f9cbb5367/tumblr_n0z5eeWr1V1qa86ezo1_640.png

HWB
02-15-2021, 04:34 AM
Listening to Together, still holds up as a very quality Ambient record

HWB
02-15-2021, 11:00 AM
I'm in that mood again where The Slip is my favorite album, very tightly put together, superb album, very underrated.

thefragile_jake
02-15-2021, 01:10 PM
I had read online a few years ago there was a weird segment during the MTV VMAs in 1998 where Courtney Love and Marilyn Manson were shit talking Trent Reznor on live TV. I always wanted to see if I could find proof of it somewhere but never could come up with anything. Oddly enough, I went down a YouTube wormhole last night and found it.


https://youtu.be/ylvBPPHM2ps?t=90

Starts at 1:30, but it's Love with the newly reunited Hole. She asks "whatever happened to Trent Reznor?" and proceeds to tell this weird story about how she has a theory that her and Marilyn Manson ate his nuts or something. It's bizarre. It's also hilarious because apparently after this segment was when the first tease of the Fragile in the "ninety nine" commercial debuted.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Hywi7FtEo4

Crazy to think Trent was hard at work on the Fragile which wouldn't be released until a year later and he had peers talking trash on TV.

Tom
02-15-2021, 01:25 PM
I had read online a few years ago there was a weird segment during the MTV VMAs in 1998 where Courtney Love and Marilyn Manson were shit talking Trent Reznor on live TV. I always wanted to see if I can proof of it somewhere but never could come up with anything. Oddly enough, I went down a YouTube wormhole last night and found it.

"He gone. And we're thriving!"

Time is a funny old thing.

thefragile_jake
02-15-2021, 01:26 PM
"He gone. And we're thriving!"

Time is a funny old thing.

Exactly.

Also wanted to share that because of the context in 1998 vs. 2021.

WorzelG
02-16-2021, 04:51 AM
Exactly.

Also wanted to share that because of the context in 1998 vs. 2021.
This whole ‘Marilyn Manson ate the father’ narrative is in this interview with Howard Stern too. Almost like they got together to push this narrative. It’s from about 2 mins or so.

https://youtu.be/awWZeg7MmcY

eachpassingphase
02-16-2021, 12:36 PM
Vaguely NIN-related and I can’t remember if I mentioned this or not.

One of my hobbies is indie perfumes, and many of my favorite houses occasionally have slots for collaboration on custom scents. So when I was able to nab custom slots, I decided to have some fun with it and do perfumes that were NIN-themed. I basically just told the perfume houses “can you make a perfume that you think embodies this song or music video?” Both houses seemed to have a blast doing it, especially since I gave them total creative freedom with the notes.

One I’ve had for a few months, the other just arrived today.

The first one is from a company called Death and Floral out of Texas. The perfume is inspired by “The Perfect Drug”, and has notes of absinthe, black musk, velvet, silk and cold metal.

The second one is from a company called Stereoplasm out of Canada, and it’s inspired by Head Like a Hole. It has notes of black (as your soul) coffee along with leather, amber resin, clove and teak wood.

Both of them are extremely atmospheric and masculine, I’m hoping to get a custom slot somewhere else in the future to do a more feminine scent with my “theme”. I thought it might be neat to do something using the song La Mer next time.

But yeah, fun experience for a fan who also loves perfume and cologne!


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210216/a9ee32e4bc8d0679d51ca01e7b59eaf3.jpg


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EvilGobi
02-16-2021, 09:18 PM
Vaguely NIN-related and I can’t remember if I mentioned this or not.

One of my hobbies is indie perfumes, and many of my favorite houses occasionally have slots for collaboration on custom scents. So when I was able to nab custom slots, I decided to have some fun with it and do perfumes that were NIN-themed. I basically just told the perfume houses “can you make a perfume that you think embodies this song or music video?” Both houses seemed to have a blast doing it, especially since I gave them total creative freedom with the notes.

One I’ve had for a few months, the other just arrived today.

The first one is from a company called Death and Floral out of Texas. The perfume is inspired by “The Perfect Drug”, and has notes of absinthe, black musk, velvet, silk and cold metal.

The second one is from a company called Stereoplasm out of Canada, and it’s inspired by Head Like a Hole. It has notes of black (as your soul) coffee along with leather, amber resin, clove and teak wood.

Both of them are extremely atmospheric and masculine, I’m hoping to get a custom slot somewhere else in the future to do a more feminine scent with my “theme”. I thought it might be neat to do something using the song La Mer next time.

But yeah, fun experience for a fan who also loves perfume and cologne!


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210216/a9ee32e4bc8d0679d51ca01e7b59eaf3.jpg


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That HLAH one sounds like my jam

Exocet
02-16-2021, 11:07 PM
i didnt know until today that the track Ruiner sampled this massive 1984 hip hop breakdance classic for its main beat. have known both songs for many years but never made connection.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSgIwp-lJhs

piggy
02-17-2021, 01:06 AM
i didnt know until today that the track Ruiner sampled this massive 1984 hip hop breakdance classic for its main beat. have known both songs for many years but never made connection.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSgIwp-lJhs
I came across this info last year and never added it to the wiki. Thanks for reminding me.

Ruined
02-17-2021, 01:40 AM
This whole ‘Marilyn Manson ate the father’ narrative is in this interview with Howard Stern too. Almost like they got together to push this narrative. It’s from about 2 mins or so.

https://youtu.be/awWZeg7MmcY
I try to avoid being petty, but this feels appropriate: I find it laughable that Courtney Love is talking like Trent's career was over in 1998 (mere months before he dropped another classic album in The Fragile). Fast-forward to now and I have no idea if Love has put anything meaningful out and, well, not much to be said about Warner. Meanwhile, Trent put out even more excellent albums, got inducted into the Rock 'n Roll HoF, won an Oscar and continues to do amazing work with both NIN and his scores.

alfonso99
02-17-2021, 10:11 AM
This whole ‘Marilyn Manson ate the father’ narrative is in this interview with Howard Stern too. Almost like they got together to push this narrative. It’s from about 2 mins or so.

https://youtu.be/awWZeg7MmcY

She should go to Howard Stern again and being asked if she hates Trent now every time she's watching movies...

Leviathant
02-17-2021, 10:44 AM
i didnt know until today that the track Ruiner sampled this massive 1984 hip hop breakdance classic for its main beat. have known both songs for many years but never made connection.

If it makes you feel any better, I had the same reaction when I learned about this connection last year. Before I found Nine Inch Nails, "The Best of the Art Of Noise" was kinda all I listened to for months, and is still an album I return to from time to time. For as much as that album is embedded in my mind, I listened to TDS probably 100x as much, if not more, than that, and never picked up on that those were Art of Noise samples either.

ncrecc
02-18-2021, 03:53 PM
Considering pasting together parts of the Terrible Lie multitrack to make a sort of differently mixed Terrible Lie (Empathetic Mix) instrumental. Has anyone else done this already?

bobbie solo
02-19-2021, 03:56 AM
I try to avoid being petty, but this feels appropriate: I find it laughable that Courtney Love is talking like Trent's career was over in 1998

Fuck that. Revel in that feeling. It's Courtney Love. She has quintupled down on this approach to her celebrity. She deserves that exact response from the public, part us NIN fans. And that comes from a huge fan of Hole (would have killed to see them live at all...and even moreso pre-Celebrity Skin).

WorzelG
02-19-2021, 07:11 AM
Fuck that. Revel in that feeling. It's Courtney Love. She has quintupled down on this approach to her celebrity. She deserves that exact response from the public, part us NIN fans. And that comes from a huge fan of Hole (would have killed to see them live at all...and even moreso pre-Celebrity Skin).
Yes, if she says she wants to be competitive with men in rock like in this interview, she needs to record an album and tour it, she just does nothing for years except spew this blah crap. When was her last album, 2010? Put up or shut up. Having said that my oldest boy loves Courtney Love from that song on Captain Marvel. Watching the video he said ‘mummy do you love Courtney Love? I do’

blassster
02-19-2021, 05:17 PM
I wanna see Trent and Atticus in a heist movie as part of the group of robbers

pcpunk
02-19-2021, 07:31 PM
‘I’m gonna go make a withdrawal’

tony.parente
02-20-2021, 10:34 PM
My GF and I were listening to Vessel and out of nowhere she spouted out “this is a toot song”. She ruined it for me, now I can’t hear anything but farts on the beat of the track. I’ve been listening to that song for almost 14 years.

toot song

JamieMoon
02-20-2021, 10:57 PM
Ha, when I first listened to that one all I could think was "This sounds like farts." Anytime I listen to YZ I think "Okay, maybe this time it will sounds less like farts, it has to."

I'm never proven right.