Random NIN Thoughts

[zaps30]

Never mind. I see that they are on here and I messaged him.

[motionlessZombie]

After that comment about one of the songs from YZ sounding like KMFDM (and Trent's reply) I doubt he would ever tour with them. Festival would be best chance of that.

What did Trent say? And what song off Year Zero was it? To me there is no KMFDM sounding songs on there.

[ryanmcfly]

What did Trent say? And what song off Year Zero was it? To me there is no KMFDM sounding songs on there.

It was Me, I'm Not. An ETS/Spral member said ""Play Me, Im not. Then play 03 - You're No Good - KMFDM - Hau Ruck, Exact same bass line ... and sounds the same. Its kmfdm revamped .. nothing new ... (kind of) again ...ITS STOLEN FROM KMFDM -but KMFDMs version is better ... You're no good - Hau Ruck."

Trent's response was ""You: go fuck yourself. Now. The day I steal something from KMFD-Fucking-M is a sad fucking day indeed. Call up Sasha and have him sue me if you feel that strongly about it, meanwhile let everyone have some goddamned fun without you pissing on the parade."

[BRoswell]

What did Trent say? And what song off Year Zero was it? To me there is no KMFDM sounding songs on there.

You can read about it here (http://www.nin.wiki/Me,_I%27m_Not#Trent_Reznor_on_sounding_like_KMFDM) .

[Tumnayar]

For those that are interested, The Inevitable Rise And Liberation Of NiggyTardust! has been re-released on vinyl.

https://shop.thefader.com/collections/fader-label/products/saul-williams-the-inevitable-rise-and-liberation-of-niggy-tardust-ltd-ed-dbl-lp?variant=7786728980508

oof $100

[neorev]

For those that are interested, The Inevitable Rise And Liberation Of NiggyTardust! has been re-released on vinyl.

https://shop.thefader.com/collections/fader-label/products/saul-williams-the-inevitable-rise-and-liberation-of-niggy-tardust-ltd-ed-dbl-lp?variant=7786728980508

$100? Seriously? Does it play with my balls while I listen to it?

[otnavuskire]

For those that are interested, The Inevitable Rise And Liberation Of NiggyTardust! has been re-released on vinyl.

https://shop.thefader.com/collections/fader-label/products/saul-williams-the-inevitable-rise-and-liberation-of-niggy-tardust-ltd-ed-dbl-lp?variant=7786728980508

Are we sure this is a repress? This is the going rate for the original pressing these days. Might just be getting rid of some old stock.

[BRoswell]

Are we sure this is a repress? This is the going rate for the original pressing these days. Might just be getting rid of some old stock.

The tweet about it that Saul Williams retweeted said it was a reissue, so make of that what you will.

[sheepdean]

Are we sure this is a repress? This is the going rate for the original pressing these days. Might just be getting rid of some old stock.
https://twitter.com/FADERLabel/status/1001589039030562817

I ... I really want this album, a lot. But I cannot justify that cost (plus int'l shipping!) for a standard double LP

[MrLobster]

oof $100

Maybe they looked at the Discogs listings and thought "Hey, it's we'll make it cheaper than that... but not by too much."

[otnavuskire]

https://twitter.com/FADERLabel/status/1001589039030562817

I ... I really want this album, a lot. But I cannot justify that cost (plus int'l shipping!) for a standard double LP

Wow. That's pretty ridiculous.

[Pbgut]

This is why the vinyl market is gonna collapse and all we're going to have left is tape labels. They're doing the same dumb shit they did with CDs but with an infinitely smaller demographic: Gen X and millennial music fans who are still obsessed with physical media almost 20 years after Napster helped blow it all up.

Capitalism is so stupid.

[implanted_microchip]

Is it not limited at all? Like, it’s a standard double LP? Black vinyl, no special extras, no numbering or anything? I don’t think I’ve ever seen something repressed on vinyl cost that much without it having some sort of unique thing that helped justify it (and even then a lot of “limited edition” releases are ridiculously priced).

[ninjaw]

..but you got a cover of U2

[Skeptikk]

Less of a random thought, more of an FYI.

Accidentally ordered a 2nd Logo zip up hoodie and had it arrive today after ordering one back when they were first put up on the store. Damn, this one is so much warmer and larger, the only downside it's like a super dark grey rather than a proper black looking black like the original was.

[WorzelG]

It's hardly KMFDMs fault what some idiot on ETS says about Me, I'm Not

[ImTheWiseJanitor]

Well, when these DE versions of WT, YZ and TS finally drop, I'd like to see some merch from that era be re-released as well.

Dude, if I can buy another Demon Seed t-shirt, I'll literally buy five.

[kaydraven]

Just got a copy of NTAE for my birthday!

[Jon]

Dude, if I can buy another Demon Seed t-shirt l, I'll literally buy five.

My OCD has been waiting 10 years for a Demon Seed sticker.

[Pbgut]

Almost all the replies to that post above on the Fader twitter account are shock and complaints about the absurd price. Maybe they'll adjust due to the consistency of the feedback.

I still feel kinda miffed that Deviations was $80 and didn't even come with a booklet, but at least that was four records!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180530/62d335b73666f568a00cec68e51c027d.png

[nmitchell86]

Dude, if I can buy another Demon Seed t-shirt, I'll literally buy five.

I love the designs from WT and YZ, TS had awesome designs and I totally agree with you and getting a few extra... for when one wears out you have a replacement. Speaking of shirts.... I'll blow this thread up also...


ETS Shirts!!! We want them!!!

From the donor's lounge...

http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/4241-Any-hope-of-a-round-of-ets-shirts-in-the-near-future

[imail724]

They trying to recoup some of the losses from so many people downloading NiggyTardust for free way back when?

[OSLIN]

Is anybody getting this message when they visit nin.com (http://www.nin.com) ?
You've been temporarily locked out due to suspicious behaviour. Please try again later.

The behavior is spelled incorrectly.

[paul_guyet]

Is anybody getting this message from nin.com (http://www.nin.com) ?
You've been temporarily locked out due to suspicious behaviour. Please try again later.

The behavior is spelled incorrectly.I am too. And that's the British spelling of the word. This pops up when they update the site. Perhaps to list more shows/sold out status?

[snichols]

yes i am as well. it seems to happen a lot.

[OSLIN]

Yeah, I figured it was the Queen's English. Thanks, I don't visit it too often, just wanted to make sure it wasn't my system.

[TheBang]

The behavior is spelled incorrectly.


that's the British spelling of the word.
nin.com is hosted in the UK.

[cheddamash]

NIN and Muse co-headlining tour... the light show... the glorious light show.

https://i.imgur.com/7RjH4tw.jpg

[Sarah K]

Yesterday, I had the opportunity of a lifetime to interview an idol of mine in Shaun King. He overheard me talking about NIN to our videographer because I had a little NIN pin underneath my graduation garb, and he saw it.

AND THEN LATER SHAUN BROUGHT UP NIN AS WE WERE FILMING. Which is just such a wild trip for me. Getting one of my idols to mention my musical obsession. Pretty cool.

Edit: Lol

https://imgur.com/a/0TvIFE5https://imgur.com/a/0TvIFE5https://imgur.com/a/0TvIFE5https://i.imgur.com/rRb2dLB.jpgs

[thefragile_jake]

There's a lot of albums I'm pumped for this summer, but I think "Bad Witch" is easily my most anticipated.

[caca]

Last night, I listened to Year Zero front to back with headphones on, which is something I haven’t done in about a decade.

In our current political climate, it’s turned out to be sadly prophetic, but goddamn, what a great record. I got really into the different narratives/perspectives, and I love all the textures, glitches, and little nuances that are lurking in the shadows of pretty much every track.

I loved the ARG and the album itself when it originally came out, and it’s a bittersweet feeling how well it’s held up 11 years after-the-fact.

I also gave the front-to-back headphone treatment this past week to The Fragile, With Teeth, Broken, NTAE, and Add Violence.

Good times.

[piggy]

Does anyone else feel like David Carson should have gotten a co-credit on the design for NTAE?

[kaydraven]

I got another NIN gift for my birthday! A definitive edition of Downward Spiral on vinyl! I've been listening to it since I got it.

[thevoid99]

Right now, I'm listening to halo 3 in its entirety as I'm also creating a new review of the maxi-single in my music blog. I wonder if anyone else here likes to revisit the entire discography in celebration of a new release or for an upcoming show?

[gorast]

Does anyone else feel like David Carson should have gotten a co-credit on the design for NTAE?

This makes me wonder what the point of using the Still artwork at all was, particularly when the vinyl and CD covers were different and are treated as the "definitive" art.

[zecho]

This makes me wonder what the point of using the Still artwork at all was, particularly when the vinyl and CD covers were different and are treated as the "definitive" art.

I'm curious as to what is considered a cover for that release. The wiki has seven, but two of them are almost exactly the same with what looks like a minor glitch in rendering, two of them are just color inversions, and only three of them were ever used as the cover. Are the other four really covers, or are they just promotional artwork?

[GentlemanLoser]

That's just a stupid price. $100... Really?

I mean, maybe the records are made out of gold?

[NotoriousTIMP]

I mean, maybe the records are made out of gold?

Based on what I read, these are the original 2008 pressing and not a repress.


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[ChipRock]

every NIN album from Worst To Best:

Falls ranking to the floor... a whole thread of its own, of course, but! Broken should be there, of course - and! does The Downward Spiral really sound dated? - happy to accept it might, but it doesn't to my (admittedly aged) ears.

[ninjaw]

Falls ranking to the floor... a whole thread of its own, of course, but! Broken should be there, of course - and! does The Downward Spiral really sound dated? - happy to accept it might, but it doesn't to my (admittedly aged) ears.

No broken ? wtf
TDS will never be aged, it just cannot. However, it's an analog record made of analog sounds, this does sound old.

[HWB]

Consequence of Sound ranks every NIN album from Worst To Best:
https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/06/ranking-every-nine-inch-nails-album/

I'd put The Slip and Hesitation Marks far higher.

Happy to see Year Zero so high.

[elevenism]

Consequence of Sound ranks every NIN album from Worst To Best:
https://consequenceofsound.net/2018/06/ranking-every-nine-inch-nails-album/
"A Warmer Place?"
"The Eater of Worlds?"

is this like a scavenger hunt to find the mistakes? Do I win a prize?

[spahn]

JB-HI is selling Bad Witch with a signed post card. https://www.jbhifi.com.au/music/browse/alternative/bad-witch/638544/

doesn't seem like they ship to the US. ugh.

[ryanmcfly]

doesn't seem like they ship to the US. ugh.

It let me order one for Denton, Tx.

[spahn]

It let me order one for Denton, Tx.

I can't get it shipped to Florida. :confused:

[ryanmcfly]

I can't get it shipped to Florida. :confused:

That's weird. :(

[sonic_discord]

I was able to order one (I'm in Minnesota), but for some reason it wouldn't accept my home address (used as a billing address) as a "valid address," so I had to use my work address for both shipping and billing.

[spahn]

I tried using my phone instead of my work PC and it went through. Let's hope this gets processed. :)

[ryanmcfly]

Good looking out my man. Purchased one just now. I hope by "postcard", they actually mean the 12x12 flat they were giving out during the Physical World sale. It's not clear enough by the picture provided:

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/Global/Starbursts/music/NIN%20Postcard%20Offer.jpg

Still, a smaller & perhaps unique promo item for the album that is signed by (hopefully) Trent plus whoever else they can get would be pretty damn cool too.

Honestly, expect it to be Richard Patrick that signs it... But for real, the only signed thing I have is a beat up Broken CD. Hopefully it is the 12x12 though.

[nmitchell86]

Order complete, thanks for looking out. Hope I was early enough to score the signed card.

[sonic_discord]

I think it's pretty clearly a standard 4.25" x 6" post card. I just wish it weren't so expensive, at $28 after shipping. Still, if it's signed by the whole band, it's worth the extra $20.

[ryanmcfly]

Yeah, as long as it's at least signed by TR and Atticus, that's a steal. The only thing I have framed by NIN in my living room is the NIN/SG Austin poster.

[caca]

Grabbed one, too (no issues to AZ). Good looking out!

[imail724]

Ordered

[kevinbeetle]

That would have been a nice physical component from the nin store.

[nmitchell86]

So the question I have about this post card (and I realize no one really has the answer) is, is the signature real hand signed (maybe numbered) or printer printed signatures?

[quietime]

is the signature real hand signed (maybe numbered) or printer printed signatures?

My guess it's a printed signature. Why would TR take time to sign a bunch of Postcards for JB hifi? It's basically Australia's BEST BUY.

[cdm]

My guess it's a printed signature. Why would TR take time to sign a bunch of Postcards for JB hifi? It's basically Australia's BEST BUY.

Bands do this type of thing all the time as part of a promotional release. The label coordinates it and ships the signed items to retailers. Newbury Comics in Boston offers signed items a lot. It might even signal some sort of tour promotion at some point in the near future. In fact I wouldn't be shocked if they added a couple of AUS dates after Japan in August.

[imail724]

If this arrives and it is a printed signature, would that be false advertising?

[ryanmcfly]

If this arrives and it is a printed signature, would that be false advertising?

I would imagine so. The thing says "POSTCARD SIGNED BY NINE INCH NAILS." If it's a re-printed signature, then technically, NIN and co did not sign it themselves.

[imail724]

I would imagine so. The thing says "POSTCARD SIGNED BY NINE INCH NAILS." If it's a re-printed signature, then technically, NIN and co did not sign it themselves.
Yes, my thoughts exactly. I just sent them an email asking if its actually being signed, who's signing it, and what the size of the postcard is. We'll see what they say soon. In the meantime, I'm saving a screenshot of the offer page in case they change it down the line.

[imail724]

So I got a response, but apparently I had emailed a specific store, not a corporate office. This is the response I got:


I’m afraid that as this is an online only offer, at a store level we actually do not have any information about who will be signing the card, nor the size of it. There is also no information on our intranet as we will not be receiving any postcards in store. The best I can do is assume, and say that it will be a standard postcard size (105mm x 148mm), and that it will be signed by both band mates (honestly this will probably be printed, too). I’m sorry I don’t have any information for you on it. If you query again closer to its release date there may be some information available to us.

So not much information there, but he did say "honestly this will probably be printed, too". Not sure how much more value his assumption has over anybody else, but there's that. Has anyone tried contacting a corporate office?

I have a feeling they're going to have quite a shitshow on their hands if these start arriving with a machine printed signature on them.

[Mutilated]

I took the risk and ordered one.

[imail724]

I took the risk and ordered one.
Oh so did I. I'd rather get it and it not be what I expected and return it, then have it turn out that it is actually signed and I missed out.

[ryanmcfly]

So I got a response, but apparently I had emailed a specific store, not a corporate office. This is the response I got:



So not much information there, but he did say "honestly this will probably be printed, too". Not sure how much more value his assumption has over anybody else, but there's that. Has anyone tried contacting a corporate office?

I have a feeling they're going to have quite a shitshow on their hands if these start arriving with a machine printed signature on them.

Honestly, if they duped everyone and gave out reprinted signatures, they deserve whatever shitshow they get.

[spahn]

well, we apparently liquidated whatever inventory they had because its no longer available.

[imail724]

Just saw this comment string on Reddit:

https://i.imgur.com/sC35fl3.png

Looks like we may actually be getting legitimate autographs for less than 30 clams.

[Mutilated]

My order now has cancelled beside its status. Lame. No idea what's going on here. I've dropped them an email.....

[imail724]

My order now has cancelled beside its status. Lame. No idea what's going on here. I've dropped them an email.....
Well they are out of stock now, so if you just ordered it today, they may have already run out. My order from yesterday says Confirmed, so I don't think they're just canceling everybody's. Looks like you can still order the vinyl with postcard though if you want that: https://www.jbhifi.com.au/music/Whats-Hot/alternative/bad-witch-vinyl/638548/

[paul_guyet]

Las Vegas magazine argueing a NIN Las Vegas residency - https://lasvegasweekly.com/ae/music/2018/jun/07/why-nine-inch-nails-should-get-a-vegas-residency/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5m_CdCzKYY

[StockAvuryah]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsYpEV2GyNU

Holy shit Josh Freese

Holy shit those quality recordings

Going directly into my Slip folder with the rehearsals

[Winter Is Coming]

Rob's got some damn good taste in comic books.

[piggy]

I wonder what ever happened to the girl from "The Perfect Drug" video.

[neorev]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsYpEV2GyNU

Holy shit Josh Freese

Holy shit those quality recordings

Going directly into my Slip folder with the rehearsals

Rubin is cool, but I do miss Josh Freese. Definitely one of NIN's top live drummers.

[thevoid99]

For me, Josh was the band's best drummer. That first NIN show I went to in the summer of '06 was still incredible. The way he hit those drums. It sounded like a fucking hammer and I felt it inside right into my heart. It was a great feeling.

[caca]

I’m listening to NIN on shuffle at the gym right now, and “Lights in the Sky” transitions rather nicely into “In Two.”

[sick among the pure]

Well they are out of stock now, so if you just ordered it today, they may have already run out. My order from yesterday says Confirmed, so I don't think they're just canceling everybody's. Looks like you can still order the vinyl with postcard though if you want that: https://www.jbhifi.com.au/music/Whats-Hot/alternative/bad-witch-vinyl/638548/


Thank you for pointing that out. I was offline all day yesterday, and by the time I heard about it this morning the CD with signed postcard was sold out. I figured that meant they ran out of postcards, and didn't even check the vinyl (plus, I was really ordering it for the postcard, so I didn't want to pay $50... but I did anyway because I'll never get anything signed in person and that's way cheaper than any autographs on eBay).

[allegate]

I went to the store because I realized the 20% coupon is expiring soon. When I got to the part where you pay for shipping, I was shocked to see that it was so expensive. I don't need anything shipped to me for almost $25.

[ImTheWiseJanitor]

I went to the store because I realized the 20% coupon is expiring soon. When I got to the part where you pay for shipping, I was shocked to see that it was so expensive. I don't need anything shipped to me for almost $25.

I was coming to post about my code, too! It would've expired yesterday, but I was curious - honestly probably gonna use it on that huge Bad Witch bundle. I'd wait for the next set of remasters and whatnot, but I don't wanna test my luck too hard and actually have it expire before then.

[nooneimportant]

I'm like one of 5 people who actually watch MTV Classic. I walked into my room tonight with some Pizza and Head Like a Hole was on. Pretty cool. Got a screencap from Xfinity Stream for unncessary proof.

https://i.imgur.com/NlXjr3S.jpg

[versusreality]

I'm like one of 5 people who actually watch MTV Classic. I walked into my room tonight with some Pizza and Head Like a Hole was on. Pretty cool. Got a screencap from Xfinity Stream for unncessary proof.

https://i.imgur.com/NlXjr3S.jpg

I love MTV Classic, but lately, they've been playing the SAME videos every week for the past few months on 120 Minutes. They have like, 8 videos they play every week, and rotate the rest of the videos every few weeks. Head Like a Hole is a weekly video. It's a shame, because when MTV Classic relaunched, 120 Mins was awesome..different videos every week. was still discovering stuff I've never heard of before.

[eversonpoe]

I wonder what ever happened to the girl from "The Perfect Drug" video.

the kid? i always thought that was a boy with long hair (and i was super jealous of that look). not that gender really matters.

anyway, yeah. like, did they become a professional actor or was that a one-off performance in a music video?

[chuckrh]

as i was having another MRI this morning, i was struck by some of the sounds coming out of the machine. they would be right at home as a component of NIN song. i've had this thought before. lot of people hate those sounds but i found them very interesting.

[eversonpoe]

as i was having another MRI this morning, i was struck by some of the sounds coming out of the machine. they would be right at home as a component of NIN song. i've had this thought before. lot of people hate those sounds but i found them very interesting.

i've heard multiple stories (including my own from when i went in to get an MRI) of techs warning people about the noise and then saying, "oh, you'll be fine, then" after being informed that the patient was a NIN fan.

edit: jeez that was barely a sentence. i blame it on the fever i've been running all day.

[piggy]

the kid? i always thought that was a boy with long hair (and i was super jealous of that look). not that gender really matters.

anyway, yeah. like, did they become a professional actor or was that a one-off performance in a music video?
Well, yeah... She certainly had an androgynous look and for years I was unsure, but if you watch the behind the scenes of TPD stuff in the Closure bonus footage, you can hear her talking and I'd definitely say it's a girl's voice.

[eversonpoe]

Well, yeah... She certainly had an androgynous look and for years I was unsure, but if you watch the behind the scenes of TPD stuff in the Closure bonus footage, you can hear her talking and I'd definitely say it's a girl's voice.

i think i always assumed the kid was meant to be young trent.

[chuckrh]

MRI is no big deal for me. As I said, I kind of like the sounds. No blood & no pain except what you went in with. There are far worse things to deal with the doctors & insurance. The MRI results are the nerve wracking part!

[sick among the pure]

i've heard multiple stories (including my own from when i went in to get an MRI) of techs warning people about the noise and then saying, "oh, you'll be fine, then" after being informed that the patient was a NIN fan.

edit: jeez that was barely a sentence. i blame it on the fever i've been running all day.


I've always enjoyed the rhythmic noises of getting an MRI, makes sense.

[Krazy]

I love MTV Classic, but lately, they've been playing the SAME videos every week for the past few months on 120 Minutes. They have like, 8 videos they play every week, and rotate the rest of the videos every few weeks. Head Like a Hole is a weekly video. It's a shame, because when MTV Classic relaunched, 120 Mins was awesome..different videos every week. was still discovering stuff I've never heard of before.

So, in other words, nothing has changed some 25-30 years later!

[BRoswell]

I love MTV Classic, but lately, they've been playing the SAME videos every week for the past few months on 120 Minutes. They have like, 8 videos they play every week, and rotate the rest of the videos every few weeks. Head Like a Hole is a weekly video. It's a shame, because when MTV Classic relaunched, 120 Mins was awesome..different videos every week. was still discovering stuff I've never heard of before.

I imagine a lot of it has to do with licensing. Back in the day, bands would beg MTV to play their videos, but now that you can look up almost any video you want online, there's no longer the need to do that. Now it's a matter of MTV begging and paying for the videos.

[Harry Seaward]

My god can she get any more amazing

[Bachy]

Are you sure?

https://media0.giphy.com/media/3o72EX5QZ9N9d51dqo/giphy.gif

[streetman]

My god can she get any more amazing

No offense but why does this make her so amazing? If some fan posted this no one would give a shit. Celebrity ass kissing much?

[Harry Seaward]

MASSEDUCTION was my favorite album of 2017 so.

[caca]

MASSEDUCTION was my favorite album of 2017 so.

Arguably mine as well. The live show was excellent.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180610/f1657dd3295b31eb477626aaad1aaca0.heic

[cheddamash]

...Cody recites lyrics to "Hurt"...

Nitpicking... “Crown of THORNS”, so it might be more Cash related. Also, more TV friendly.

[witte]

No offense but why does this make her so amazing? If some fan posted this no one would give a shit. Celebrity ass kissing much?

What’s your point?
Everything she does is amazing. I predict she will collaborate with Trent in the near future.


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[blassster]

as i was having another MRI this morning, i was struck by some of the sounds coming out of the machine. they would be right at home as a component of NIN song. i've had this thought before. lot of people hate those sounds but i found them very interesting.Relevant! http://www.nin.wiki/images/f/f6/2005_07_09Questions8.gif

[Pbgut]

Relevant! http://www.nin.wiki/images/f/f6/2005_07_09Questions8.gif

lolllll

[chuckrh]

Relevant! http://www.nin.wiki/images/f/f6/2005_07_09Questions8.gif

haha. i was on to (or possilble on) something!

[eversonpoe]

https://twitter.com/BBC6Music/status/1005153056198193152?s=20

now i just want to hear her do an entire album of acoustic TOOL covers holy shit

[caca]

Oops... didn’t mean to post that. Move along...

[tony.parente]

Sunspots has the best synth line Trent Reznor has ever released.

[Ribbitman]

Sunspots has the best synth line Trent Reznor has ever released.
My 2nd favorite song ever

[nooneimportant]

I love MTV Classic, but lately, they've been playing the SAME videos every week for the past few months on 120 Minutes. They have like, 8 videos they play every week, and rotate the rest of the videos every few weeks. Head Like a Hole is a weekly video. It's a shame, because when MTV Classic relaunched, 120 Mins was awesome..different videos every week. was still discovering stuff I've never heard of before.

I really like Total Request Playlist. Brings me back to being a stupid little kid. I didn't have any great music taste as a kid, no NIN or anything cool but the rap videos and stuff are great. I love me some old Cash Money Records! Still Fly could be the US National Anthem.

[imail724]

So I got a response, but apparently I had emailed a specific store, not a corporate office. This is the response I got:



So not much information there, but he did say "honestly this will probably be printed, too". Not sure how much more value his assumption has over anybody else, but there's that. Has anyone tried contacting a corporate office?

I have a feeling they're going to have quite a shitshow on their hands if these start arriving with a machine printed signature on them.Update:


Sorry for the delayed response. I sent an email to our music department head office and received a reply today, and the details are as follows: Unsure of sizing, but assuming it will be the size of a CD case; it will be signed by both Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross, and they are legitimate signatures, not printed.

[nmitchell86]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! That's Awesome! (The signed cards...)

[snichols]

i was loading trucks at work today when the local hard cock radio station played "the hand that feeds". it made me smile and dance:)

[barkhammer]

i was loading trucks at work today when the local hard cock radio station played "the hand that feeds". it made me smile and dance:)

:eek:

[snichols]

trust me its an awful station that plays almost nothing worth hearing, but today shortly after they played THTF, they played deftones and iron maiden. maybe there is hope after all.:)

[Krazy]

they played THTF, they played deftones and iron maiden. maybe there is hope after all.:)


THTF- followed by Deftones, then Maiden? Thats actually incredible IMHO. Probably a “Guinness Book of World Records for consecutive cool bands played on the radio in 2018”.

[snichols]

it wasnt consecutive, but they were all played in the same 45 minutes or so. still, thats quite rare for a crappy rock station in the middle of illinois.

[thevoid99]

I just re-watched the Broken Movie. Still has the power to shock. I love it.

[bgalbraith]

Everything is such a wonderful outlier of a track.

[ryanmcfly]

This is probably one of the worst/funniest bootleg shirts I've ever seen. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Trent-Reznor-Tee-Fullprint-Tshirt-New-Mens-T-Shirt/152632811443?hash=item23899fdfb3:m:m7oSrz7bpdKW2A2 6ARpNaIA

[BRoswell]

This is probably one of the worst/funniest bootleg shirts I've ever seen. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Trent-Reznor-Tee-Fullprint-Tshirt-New-Mens-T-Shirt/152632811443?hash=item23899fdfb3:m:m7oSrz7bpdKW2A2 6ARpNaIA

I was wondering when The Joker was going to start his own fashion line.

[AThousandDaysBefore]

Stupid spotify put the broken album and natural born killers album
I want to create a new playlist with Last , Help me I'm in hell and burn

[cdm]

This is probably one of the worst/funniest bootleg shirts I've ever seen. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Trent-Reznor-Tee-Fullprint-Tshirt-New-Mens-T-Shirt/152632811443?hash=item23899fdfb3:m:m7oSrz7bpdKW2A2 6ARpNaIA

It looks great on Danny Lohner.

[Pbgut]

I randomly decided to work on a cover of I Do Not Want This, more to just have fun trying to approximate the sounds and sharpen the analytical side of my music listening than to try to make something awesome.

I was listening to the instrumental, and christ, it's so beautiful. I don't know how excited and in awe I was as a kid with this music but I'm still amazed at the sound palette and how *musical* all the noise is. Trent, Sean B., Chris, Flood and any other musicians - I've never heard any popular music that is that noisy and yet masterfully tonal at time same time. The distorted, syncopated, almost subliminal rhythms being played out on what sounds like clipped synth toms and sub bass, the weird squelchy cutoff/resonant sounds, what sounds like the piano strings being played directly, the noise fading in and out perfectly, that weird synth that sounds like the "truck backing up" tone played three octaves each, the way the bass drum sound keeps being treated. It sounds like the black and white noise grain on the NTAE and BW cover looks, and like the TDS cover art at the same time.

Goddamn it, I love it. I'd kill to hear the stems somehow.

[BrokenSpiral]

I sometimes wonder if TR is going to switch it up from the very electronic sound of the last many years. Not that I want Fragile 2.0 or With Teeth 2.0. But an album that features a lot of live instruments.

[eversonpoe]

I was wondering when The Joker was going to start his own fashion line.

nah, it would need to say DAMAGED across trent's forehead :p


I sometimes wonder if TR is going to switch it up from the very electronic sound of the last many years. Not that I want Fragile 2.0 or With Teeth 2.0. But an album that features a lot of live instruments.

i think NTAE sounded extremely organic/live, for the most part. add violence less so, but even the electronic elements of it felt more natural than a lot of the sounds on hesitation marks.

[sheepdean]

Stupid spotify put the broken album and natural born killers album
I want to create a new playlist with Last , Help me I'm in hell and burn
So buy them and make it elsewhere?

[Boots]

I love NIN and I have all their albums. But with Hesitation Marks and The Slip, I think Trent was sacrificing quality for quantity.

[BRoswell]

But with Hesitation Marks and The Slip, I think Trent was sacrificing quality for quantity.

Wait, are we talking about Trent or Kanye West? :p

[GentlemanLoser]

now i just want to hear her do an entire album of acoustic TOOL covers holy shit

I don't even really *like* Tool that much but I would pay cold hard cash for her to do such an album.

[thefragile_jake]

I still love watching the 'Starsuckers, Inc'. music video.

[BRoswell]

I think I've finally come to the conclusion that I prefer the original mix of Pretty Hate Machine over the 2010 remaster, which is weird, as I've preferred all of the other remasters over the originals.

[sheepdean]

I think I've finally come to the conclusion that I prefer the original mix of Pretty Hate Machine over the 2010 remaster, which is weird, as I've preferred all of the other remasters over the originals.
Take away my Midnight Express sample and flatten Terrible Lie? Despite SICNH being far superior on the remaster, as a whole the original is better. But I do wish the original would get the 2-LP reissue just for the acoustic improvement

[katara]

It saddens me that there have been three Bad Witch discussion threads, and every one of them had to be closed due to asinine trolling and general toxicity.

[Volband]

People will disagree and argue about subjective things, especially if they hold them dear. Nothing new. Absolutely pointless closing any thread for that, except of course when it devolves into "i fuck ur mom bitchhhhhhh" comments or general harassing. Which did not happen.

[Emil Dorbell]

It saddens me that there have been three Bad Witch discussion threads, and every one of them had to be closed due to asinine trolling and general toxicity.

Na, they were closed because ETS has power tripping mods. It’s the best and worst thing about this forum. There’s low tolerance for trolling and shitposts, that’s great. In this particular case it’s pretty absurd that we’re days away from a new NIN release and we don’t have a thread to discuss it.

[StockAvuryah]

Na, they were closed because ETS has power tripping mods. It’s the best and worst thing about this forum. There’s low tolerance for trolling and shitposts, that’s great. In this particular case it’s pretty absurd that we’re days away from a new NIN release and we don’t have a thread to discuss it.

Discuss what ? No album yet Aha. Was a good call. It's just fooling around till the release, but some people are toxic whatever happens.

[icklekitty]

The album thread has been locked so I’ll post here that I’ve received a shipping notification for the Bad Witch vinyl. Looks like chances are high that it’ll arrive before Friday.

[HWB]

Discuss what ? No album yet Aha.

I mean, new track off the album was literally played live not so long time ago

[Volband]

Discuss what ? No album yet Aha. Was a good call. It's just fooling around till the release, but some people are toxic whatever happens.
Sometimes I wonder - without a malicous intent - if some people were actually born today. The internet is littered with platforms where thousands of people are talking about upcoming events: World Cup fixtures, next episode or even next season of a TV series, the games which were announced at E3, etc. I don't know if calling it a culture would be the appropriate word for it, but what I mean is that it's not a new precedent to talk about stuff we barely know about - and we already know stuff about BW, so it's even more true for it.

So yeah, I legit don't know whether you are an older folk, and this is news for you, or if it's just the highest form of elitism being presented right here.

[sweeterthan]

The bad witch thread was derailed once again so it was closed. I’m sure the mod got a total rush from closing it with all his power. Massive fucking eye roll

[Emil Dorbell]

There was a (rather short) discussion over the instrumental tracks. That’s “derailed” enough that we shouldn’t have a thread to discuss the new NIN EP mere days before its release?

[sipuss]

The bad witch thread was derailed once again so it was closed. I’m sure the mod got a total rush from closing it with all his power. Massive fucking eye roll

I mean, couldn't the derailing posts be deleted/moved with a warning instead of just shutting the entire thing down?

[insequence]

I thought the whole point of message boards was to talk about things until they "become circular. Basically until you hear more, you're just kind bitching in the dark."

Aside from "bitching in the dark", what else have we achieved on ETS over all these years? Isn't that what the founding fathers of the internet would have wanted?

Back to Reddit I go!

[paul_guyet]

Regarding the whole thing that got THE THIRD Bad Witch thread shut down (which, I actually think is hilarious)...I can get why some people are upset that on a 6-track, 31-minute release Reznor chose to make two of the longer songs instrumentals. To be more specific, I can understand why some people today are upset.
When Broken came out, there was no social media and therefore no real hype machine. There might have been a magazine ad that said "new ep coming soon" with a date and a backwards, orange "n". That was it. People could put the date on their calendar and call their local radio station to get them to play "Wish" but that was it. Fans of PHM heard that track and probably lost their minds, either in a positive way or a negative way. For some fans, they were in their local record store one day and probably did a double-take when they saw something new in the Nine Inch Nails section. I remember being in a Best Buy in Altemonte Springs, Florida when I saw the NIN logo on a set of VHS tapes. I had no fucking clue what was going on. After that, I paid more attention to Nine Inch Nails on the internet and, for the past twenty years, I have been fodder for the hype machine that's slowly gotten bigger and faster and more voracious. I must have played that "La Mer"/"Into The Void" teaser five thousand times...
Anyway.
Personally, yeah, I wish the new album was six, long, lyric-laden examples of everything I love about Nine Inch Nails. I wish Ghosts had lyrics. I wish each and every score was replaced with a full-blown NIN LP. When people say "albums have instrumentals, what's the difference?", I want to tell them that it's basic math; on a full length album, you have more time and more music and maybe an instrumental or three serves as a nice chance to catch ones' breath, but on a tight package like Bad Witch, you want as much content to dig into as possible, you want stuff to unpack. Especially with this trilogy which may or may not tie in to everything Nine Inch Nails has ever done, you want more clues and connections and hidden lyrics.
Would this trilogy have worked better as a 16-track LP? Would we be gnashing our teeth so violently if Reznor had decided to go that route? Would there be so many closed threads on ETS? Would we have gotten the Quantum Cock Incident?
Who's to say?
People have opinions about Reznor and his work.
Others can agree or disagree with these opinions.
But, at the core of all this...it's Reznor's fucking work. If people have that many problems with what he does...no one's keeping them here.

Forgive my entire rant.

[Emil Dorbell]

"become circular. Basically until you hear more, you're just kind bitching in the dark."

I think THIS thread just became circular. Lockdown of Random NIN Thoughts in 3, 2, 1...

[BRoswell]

When people say "albums have instrumentals, what's the difference?", I want to tell them that it's basic math; on a full length album, you have more time and more music and maybe an instrumental or three serves as a nice chance to catch ones' breath, but on a tight package like Bad Witch, you want as much content to dig into as possible, you want stuff to unpack.

Saying that there's no content to be found in instrumental music is like saying there's no content to be found in a painting. Not everything has to be spelled out in words. Sometimes it's all about the mood, the feel of it, that provides the context for its placement within the larger framework of the album.

[ltrandazzo]

Na, they were closed because ETS has power tripping mods. It’s the best and worst thing about this forum. There’s low tolerance for trolling and shitposts, that’s great. In this particular case it’s pretty absurd that we’re days away from a new NIN release and we don’t have a thread to discuss it.

Yes, because at around 2am, I enjoy nothing more than logging onto ETS to read a thread about an album that hasn't come out yet and see people arguing about instrumentals for an album that no one has heard yet and repeating themselves in multiple posts over and over and over. I got shivers down my spine as I clicked that lock button and such an insane rush of endorphins when I saw the several people discussing the same thing in circles cry out when they saw that padlock. I LOVE THE POWER. /sarcasim

The thread was derailed and it's happened a few times now, hence the part 3.. The LP is out in 5 days, and I'd imagine we'll all start getting emails with download links at some point Thursday night. Until then, it's staying closed until the whole damn thing is out and we can discuss whether we hate it or not.

[insequence]

I think THIS thread just became circular. Lockdown of Random NIN Thoughts in 3, 2, 1...

Yes! I'm wondering that if we keep up the discussion here, this will also get shut down. How many threads can we lock up - bets, anyone?

Fuck it, lets just delete the whole internet. People talking about stuff has always ended badly, anyway.

[ltrandazzo]

Yes! I'm wondering that if we keep up the discussion here, this will also get shut down. How many threads can we lock up - bets, anyone?

Unfortunately, this is the Random NIN Thoughts thread, the destination for wayward NIN thoughts that don't have a place in any other thread... and since there isn't a thread for Bad Witch right now, you're in the right spot!

[Emil Dorbell]

Yes, because at around 2am, I enjoy nothing more than logging onto ETS to read a thread about an album that hasn't come out yet and see people arguing about instrumentals for an album that no one has heard yet and repeating themselves in multiple posts over and over and over. I got shivers down my spine as I clicked that lock button and such an insane rush of endorphins when I saw the several people discussing the same thing in circles cry out when they saw that padlock. I LOVE THE POWER. /sarcasim

The thread was derailed and it's happened a few times now, hence the part 3.. The LP is out in 5 days, and I'd imagine we'll all start getting emails with download links at some point Thursday night. Until then, it's staying closed until the whole damn thing is out and we can discuss whether we hate it or not.

Well, my "power trip" comment has some twenty years (or however long ETS has been around now) of frustration behind it. I know all the NIN fans are here, yet when there's something new to discuss, small or large, I'll often have to jump through tens or hundreds of pages of this or the other "random" thread, because the standards for starting a separate thread are so damn high here. As I also stated I think it's mostly a good thing. Reddit always has a thread for whatever's going on, but they also have a million pictures of vinyl purchases or "DAE think Tronk Rosnir is hot?".

But instead of just facepalming my post because I called you out on being a powertripping mod, perhaps unfairly, you could address the absurdity of the fact that ETS, the biggest NIN community in the world, doesn't have a thread to discuss (as in speculate, dream, fantasize, or bitch about) the new NIN release, or even the brand new song most of us heard for the first time yesterday.

[Demogorgon]

Yes! I'm wondering that if we keep up the discussion here, this will also get shut down. How many threads can we lock up - bets, anyone?

Fuck it, lets just delete the whole internet. People talking about stuff has always ended badly, anyway.

Look, all you crybabies can go back to Reddit or whatever other barely moderated shithole you came from if you really feel that way, but ETS has tried over many years to keep some sense of decorum and polite discourse in an online world where presidents can tweet whatever stupid-ass thing comes to mind. Do you really want this nice little place of ours to end up like every other bastion of social stupidity gracing cyberspace? I don't. Yeah, I've had my share of gripes with how things are run around here sometimes, but I'd rather it be a little strict than a rampant frontier of shitposting and clickbait.

[insequence]

Look, all you crybabies can go back to Reddit or whatever other barely moderated shithole you came from if you really feel that way, but ETS has tried over many years to keep some sense of decorum and polite discourse in an online world where presidents can tweet whatever stupid-ass thing comes to mind. Do you really want this nice little place of ours to end up like every other bastion of social stupidity gracing cyberspace? I don't. Yeah, I've had my share of gripes with how things are run around here sometimes, but I'd rather it be a little strict than a rampant frontier of shitposting and clickbait.

That's fine, and I appreciate things are run differently on ETS. I haven't been massively active but I've dipped in and out enough over the years to know that this is the case. I don't agree with it, but fair enough. I think it's a free speech issue, and yes I think that's pretty serious; but that's my own thing and so I will go back to my barely moderated shithole I come from until we can actually talk about things here again :)

[ghostaustin]

I was thinking about the Year Zero ARG earlier, specifically the way in which we were introduced to Survivalism. If I remember correctly, you could call a 1-800 number that would let you hear someone talking about being fed up with society and proving a point, then a snippet of Survivalism plays, then he opens fire on a crowd of people (I think it was a stadium?). The concept of that kind of casual mass shooting seemed so bizarre and subversive in 2007, who'd of thought it would be so common a decade later?

[sweeterthan]

Well, my "power trip" comment has some twenty years (or however long ETS has been around now) of frustration behind it. I know all the NIN fans are here, yet when there's something new to discuss, small or large, I'll often have to jump through tens or hundreds of pages of this or the other "random" thread, because the standards for starting a separate thread are so damn high here. As I also stated I think it's mostly a good thing. Reddit always has a thread for whatever's going on, but they also have a million pictures of vinyl purchases or "DAE think Tronk Rosnir is hot?".

But instead of just facepalming my post because I called you out on being a powertripping mod, perhaps unfairly, you could address the absurdity of the fact that ETS, the biggest NIN community in the world, doesn't have a thread to discuss (as in speculate, dream, fantasize, or bitch about) the new NIN release, or even the brand new song most of us heard for the first time yesterday.

Perhaps unfairly? How about unnecessarily? you could make the same points about the bad witch thread without the name calling. There’s no reason for you to say anything about him other than for attention.

[paul_guyet]

Saying that there's no content to be found in instrumental music is like saying there's no content to be found in a painting. Not everything has to be spelled out in words. Sometimes it's all about the mood, the feel of it, that provides the context for its placement within the larger framework of the album.100% with you. The Fragile without the instrumentals would be a lot less impactful. Same with TDS. I'm not saying there's no content to be found in instrumentals, in fact I think it's more challenging, and therefore more rewarding, for an artist to convey meaning without lyrics. I supposed I meant concrete, lyrical content.

[Pbgut]

While I totally understand that threads tend to get locked down when we circle around a single (sometimes minor) issue like vinyl vs CD, is it an EP or an LP, sadness about not hearing Trent's smooth-ass man-voice on every track ad nauseam, it's a shame we have to post about that seriously kick ass debut of Ahead of Ourselves last night in the live thread only. It sounds like they really matched the brutality of it I remember from the listening station. I hope they liked the reaction to it and that it becomes a regular on this new tour.

[Volband]

As much as I disagree with the decision to lock down that thread - at least for the reason listed -, I can appreciate a firm and (cant find that word now...) "followable" decision process. I spent, spend a lot of time on team liquid (sorry if it's advertising, but its just a gaming site), and while the moderation can resemble Nazi Germany at times, at least the same rules apply for everyone. Also, mods here and there let grown ass people to duke out their differences.You should've seen the hayday of discussion boards and the power tripping mods there. Self-conscious teens sitting in front of their pc 0-24, searching for arguments so they can use their power. Except on friends. Oh, and many of them turned out to be cheaters too.Tl;dr: ahead of ourselves is fucking amazing, i hope they release it officially, because i dont want to listen to bad live quality :(

[r_z]

AR and TR are incredibly good producers. So I'm looking forward to the songs on this release, vocals or not. In fact, I'm really curious, how in 2018 a NIN instrumental will sound, now that it's not specifically made for a film score.

[Emil Dorbell]

Perhaps unfairly? How about unnecessarily? you could make the same points about the bad witch thread without the name calling. There’s no reason for you to say anything about him other than for attention.

Well, as I've made obvious, I think he closed that thread unfairly. And unnecessarily. That is part of my point and that's why I used the language that I did.

[ltrandazzo]

Well, my "power trip" comment has some twenty years (or however long ETS has been around now) of frustration behind it. I know all the NIN fans are here, yet when there's something new to discuss, small or large, I'll often have to jump through tens or hundreds of pages of this or the other "random" thread, because the standards for starting a separate thread are so damn high here. As I also stated I think it's mostly a good thing. Reddit always has a thread for whatever's going on, but they also have a million pictures of vinyl purchases or "DAE think Tronk Rosnir is hot?".

But instead of just facepalming my post because I called you out on being a powertripping mod, perhaps unfairly, you could address the absurdity of the fact that ETS, the biggest NIN community in the world, doesn't have a thread to discuss (as in speculate, dream, fantasize, or bitch about) the new NIN release, or even the brand new song most of us heard for the first time yesterday.

I both Facepalmed you and replied in a previous post quoting your previous post so I hit both check boxes.

I have been on ETS since November of 2002 when it was launched, and in those 16 years, I don't believe that thread standards have gotten so high that you can't determine whether to start a new thread about a NIN topic or not. I've stated my reasons in the Bad Witch thread (which is becoming the new Manson thread) why I locked it down until this coming Thursday: the thread has become a recycling of posts yelling at each other about why instrumentals are bad vs. good, which is similar to when we shut down the first two threads about the album in regards to the CD vs. Vinyl debate being repetitive and the EP vs. LP debate being SUPER repetitive. As an admin of this board, I can decide when to lock a thread down because it's been derailed past the point of the original topic and when it becomes closed off to NEW users and NEW posts because the same four people are recycling the same talking points over and over and over and over and over again.

I appreciate your concern.

[ltrandazzo]

Regarding the new song that was debuted in Vegas last night - I am honestly surprised that no one has started a thread about it yet. We've had threads for God Break Down The Door (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/4946-God-Break-Down-the-Door-first-single), The Lovers (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/4916-The-Lovers), The Background World (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/4554-The-Background-World), Less Than (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/4533-Less-Than), Not Anymore (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/4578-Not-Anymore-additional-lyrics), and so on. I'd encourage someone, anyone to make a thread about Ahead of Ourselves at anytime instead of complaining about not being able to talk about it in this thread and the GBDTD thread.

[Pbgut]

Regarding the new song that was debuted in Vegas last night - I am honestly surprised that no one has started a thread about it yet. We've had threads for God Break Down The Door (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/4946-God-Break-Down-the-Door-first-single), The Lovers (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/4916-The-Lovers), The Background World (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/4554-The-Background-World), Less Than (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/4533-Less-Than), Not Anymore (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/4578-Not-Anymore-additional-lyrics), and so on. I'd encourage someone, anyone to make a thread about Ahead of Ourselves at anytime instead of complaining about not being able to talk about it in this thread and the GBDTD thread.

Sorry TR, didn't mean to bitch, that's why I started with the point that I totally get why the thread is temporarily locked, but tried to move on to how awesome the song is - I don't think that I made that clear though. Startin' a thread.

[HWB]

i alreadly started a thread if anyone's interested.

http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/5037-Ahead-Of-Ourselves-Debuted-Live

[ltrandazzo]

Haha, just merged them for you.

[Emil Dorbell]

I both Facepalmed you and replied in a previous post quoting your previous post so I hit both check boxes.

I have been on ETS since November of 2002 when it was launched, and in those 16 years, I don't believe that thread standards have gotten so high that you can't determine whether to start a new thread about a NIN topic or not. I've stated my reasons in the Bad Witch thread (which is becoming the new Manson thread) why I locked it down until this coming Thursday: the thread has become a recycling of posts yelling at each other about why instrumentals are bad vs. good, which is similar to when we shut down the first two threads about the album in regards to the CD vs. Vinyl debate being repetitive and the EP vs. LP debate being SUPER repetitive. As an admin of this board, I can decide when to lock a thread down because it's been derailed past the point of the original topic and when it becomes closed off to NEW users and NEW posts because the same four people are recycling the same talking points over and over and over and over and over again.

I appreciate your concern.

Alright. I'll let it go now.

[pcpunk]

in light of Trent playing Joy Division's Digital, the total number of covers NIN has done of Joy Division is 5, I think. am I alone in really wanting an EP of solely studio JD covers? I think it would be rad.

[buckaroo]

in light of Trent playing Joy Division's Digital, the total number of covers NIN has done of Joy Division is 5, I think. am I alone in really wanting an EP of solely studio JD covers? I think it would be rad.

I seem to remember reading an interview where Trent said they recorded a bunch of covers around the time they recorded Broken. I think it mentioned multiple Joy Division songs. Does anyone remember that it am did I dream that?

[sheepdean]

in light of Trent playing Joy Division's Digital, the total number of covers NIN has done of Joy Division is 5, I think. am I alone in really wanting an EP of solely studio JD covers? I think it would be rad.
The only artist he's done as many covers for is Numan. So how about Numan/Reznor doing an album of JD covers

[Mutilated]

What a joke locking all the Bad Witch threads. Lame.

Got a shipping notification for my vinyl and shirt :)

[StockAvuryah]

Regarding the new song that was debuted in Vegas last night - I am honestly surprised that no one has started a thread about it yet. We've had threads for God Break Down The Door (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/4946-God-Break-Down-the-Door-first-single), The Lovers (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/4916-The-Lovers), The Background World (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/4554-The-Background-World), Less Than (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/4533-Less-Than), Not Anymore (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/4578-Not-Anymore-additional-lyrics), and so on. I'd encourage someone, anyone to make a thread about Ahead of Ourselves at anytime instead of complaining about not being able to talk about it in this thread and the GBDTD thread.

Need a thread for each track on the 22nd (or.. right now I guess, some people are getting their vinyl today/tomorrow). Just do it people.

Also got my shipping notif (uk store), life is good.

[Shnoorum]

This isn't so much a thought as a "I just saw this on Reddit" but I have no idea where else to post this. People are reporting a leak on Reddit but people are only giving vague answers as to where. Just a heads up

[ryanmcfly]

This isn't so much a thought as a "I just saw this on Reddit" but I have no idea where else to post this. People are reporting a leak on Reddit but people are only giving vague answers as to where. Just a heads up

I saw the post too. If I wasn't on a work computer, I would go searching for it, but I'm stuck here until 5pm sadly.

[ltrandazzo]

I saw the post too. If I wasn't on a work computer, I would go searching for it, but I'm stuck here until 5pm sadly.

If it has leaked, it's a transcode or weak because it hasn't shown up in the usual places I frequent.

[ryanmcfly]

If it has leaked, it's a transcode or weak because it hasn't shown up in the usual places I frequent.

Apparently more people are listening to it and confirming the leak. It apparently leaked on 4chan.

[Jetvet1975]

Some guy actually just gave a source for a leak. You can find it on 4chan/mu/. I checked it out and downloaded the album! It's legit!

[ryanmcfly]

goddamn being at work.

[firewlker]

It's true.

[ltrandazzo]

I've reopened the Bad Witch thread so folks can share reviews.

Please do not spam any threads asking for a link to be PM'ed. If you know where to look, you'll find it.

[SarahConnor]

No leaks! I’m awaiting the Apple Music post of Witch so as to be as legit as I can afford to be- goddamn, I had more money in 1995. What the fuck happened to me?

[Nini]

I came across this song while I wasn't looking to download the leaked Bad Witch album (I would never do that). I know it's not Bad Witch but what is it? Anyone know?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imf3_hjlw5U

[Shnoorum]

I came across this song while I wasn't looking to download the leaked Bad Witch album (I would never do that). I know it's not Bad Witch but what is it? Anyone know?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imf3_hjlw5U

Roughly a month ago (I think) someone posted some snippets and one full instrumental to Reddit claiming he had the whole album and was gonna leak the tracks. I think this was the instrumental

Edit: I think this was actually pre announcement of Bad Witch

[Nini]

Roughly a month ago (I think) someone posted some snippets and one full instrumental to Reddit claiming he had the whole album and was gonna leak the tracks. I think this was the instrumental

Edit: I think this was actually pre announcement of Bad Witch

Do you know the artist?

[Frozen Beach]

I came across this song while I wasn't looking to download the leaked Bad Witch album (I would never do that). I know it's not Bad Witch but what is it? Anyone know?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imf3_hjlw5U
https://ghostpassenger.bandcamp.com/album/background-noise
Perfect Stranger

[Shnoorum]

Do you know the artist?

No


https://ghostpassenger.bandcamp.com/album/background-noise
Perfect Stranger

Yes

[dvp]

Has anyone re-listened to Gary Numan's "Splinter" since BW came out? I just gave it another spin and feel like we should be calling it "Numan/Bowie Vocals" on GBDTD and OaO instead of just "Bowie Vocals". :shrug:

[Mataxia]

I apologize if this has already been discussed to death here, but did we ever get confirmation on whether or not this clyp track is legit? https://clyp.it/u5f32f0z

I mean it is sampled in the beginning of Branches/Bones after all, and it was posted long before NTAE was released.

[Pbgut]

hey shit
yeah you
hey shit shitty shit shit shit
all of my shit came true
mirroring reflecting chrome
you left me here i'm all alone
my shit mirror needed something new

Sorry, I'm obsessed.

[alfonso99]

HBO rejected Year Zero TV series, but i'm pretty sure we'll have it in Netflix...SOON!

[pcpunk]

what makes you say that? also, am I the only one abstaining from any BW leaks or reviews until the album is made available through official channels?

[BRoswell]

also, am the only one abstaining from any BW leaks or reviews until the album is made available through official channels?

Nope. I am too.

[alfonso99]

what makes you say that? also, am the only one abstaining from any BW leaks or reviews until the album is made available through official channels?

i had an astral journey to the future.
I have not heard it yet.

[dvp]

I'm never ordering from NIN.com ever again. This tracking info is garbage and I'm getting the runaround from both UPS and NIN. /rant

[Steven]

what makes you say that? also, am I the only one abstaining from any BW leaks or reviews until the album is made available through official channels?


No, I'm also waiting for Friday for the NIN topic/official channel to release all of the Bad Witch songs. I want to make sure I get the best quality of the songs and aren't getting myself into any shady sites (even though it's uploaded on Youtube which isn't shady at all). Also I'm pretty sure there will be an official music video for one of the songs on the album coming out Thursday/Friday so I want to listen to the songs with the video as well.

[Deacon Blackfire]

what makes you say that? also, am I the only one abstaining from any BW leaks or reviews until the album is made available through official channels?

Doing the same, mostly out of overly-paranoid worrying that the leaked audio files somehow won't have the specifications intended.

[eversonpoe]

what makes you say that? also, am I the only one abstaining from any BW leaks or reviews until the album is made available through official channels?


Nope. I am too.

i never listen to leaks. i always try to listen to the physical version of an album when it comes out.

[BrokenSpiral]

i never listen to leaks. i always try to listen to the physical version of an album when it comes out.

I don’t have any issue with people who do this. But I also don’t understand. Listening to a leak 2 days before, hearing it in its entirety, isn’t any different than the day it shows up in your iTunes or whatever.

[eversonpoe]

I don’t have any issue with people who do this. But I also don’t understand. Listening to a leak 2 days before, hearing it in its entirety, isn’t any different than the day it shows up in your iTunes or whatever.

because, like i said, i wait for the physical copy and listen to that. i'm a huge vinyl collector and when i buy something on vinyl, that's how i listen to it for the first time. i actually really like trent's vinyl mission statement as that's exactly how i consume new music.

[Kyle]

I'm never ordering from NIN.com ever again. This tracking info is garbage and I'm getting the runaround from both UPS and NIN. /rant

???

i have no problems at all with the tracking. UPS tracking is far superior to the post office.

[BrokenSpiral]

because, like i said, i wait for the physical copy and listen to that. i'm a huge vinyl collector and when i buy something on vinyl, that's how i listen to it for the first time. i actually really like trent's vinyl mission statement as that's exactly how i consume new music.


If you prefer to listen on vinyl, that makes sense. But just being a physical copy doesn’t make much difference imo. I say that as I’ve interacted with many who were waiting for a cd/download ON release date. Like hearing it on the date is different

[eversonpoe]

If you prefer to listen on vinyl, that makes sense. But just being a physical copy doesn’t make much difference imo. I say that as I’ve interacted with many who were waiting for a cd/download ON release date. Like hearing it on the date is different

if it was like NTAE where i knew i wouldn't have the vinyl in hand for months after the download became available, that'd be different (i listened to that as soon as it was released digitally, over and over). but since i haven't received a legit download yet (and i don't like to use leaks) and i'll have the vinyl in hand in two days, i'd much rather just wait until i can throw it on my turntable and give it all my attention.

[Fred]

Been listening a lot to Michael Jackson as of late since my fiancée is a fan. I knew MJ loved TDS, but I was still surprised to learn just how much some of his songs leaned towards industrial.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_G5DLYRz6M

I think the NIN inspiration in that one is very obvious. He even takes a stab at Trent's terraced dynamics with the piano breakdown. I'm guessing Trent wouldn't have touched him with a ten-foot pole in the mid-90s once the accusations started piling up, but if MJ hadn't passed in 2009, a collaboration would've fit very nicely into the Hesitation Marks sound.

[Microwave Jellyfish]

As much as I love Bad Witch, I'd love to hear some of that "more extreme version of Add Violence" EP3 one day - if some recorded form of it does exist, that is.

[nooneimportant]

I honestly thought it was Peter Murphy for a second when the vocals came in on "Over and Out."

Insane.

[ImTheWiseJanitor]

I’M MAKING SET LISTS FOR SHOWS COMING UP AND THERE’S VERY LITTLE ON THERE FROM THAT ALBUM BECAUSE I DON’T FEEL IT RIGHT NOW. WHEREAS, I WAS REALLY DOWN ON WITH TEETH FOR A LONG TIME BUT NOW, FOR WHATEVER REASON, IT SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. NOT THAT I LISTEN TO IT THAT MUCH BUT IT POPPED ON THE OTHER DAY AND I THOUGHT, FUCK, I FORGOT I EVEN WROTE THAT SONG.

Squeeeee, more WT on this tour please. :D

[Harry Seaward]

Who renamed my track 01 of Add Violence to "<" ??

[ltrandazzo]

I honestly thought it was Peter Murphy for a second when the vocals came in on "Over and Out."

Insane.

Ditto. I was on a quest for liner notes to confirm this and nope, it's Trent. Wild.

[Pbgut]

As much as I love Bad Witch, I'd love to hear some of that "more extreme version of Add Violence" EP3 one day - if some recorded form of it does exist, that is.

I was thinking about that quote and I figured he was referring to the concept of the lyrics being more extreme, and not the music? Since we've dialed down from "full Matrix virtual reality" to "this is dirt and a broken computer chip and everything you believe in is bullshit." Basically, the virtual reality is in your head and your own illusions. But, yeah, I don't know, and also it'd be interesting to hear either way.

[Steven]

The last two EP's feel like they're the soundtrack to a horror/sci-fi movie about time travel.

[henryeatscereal]

Gosh, that NIN.com interview reminded me to Matthew McConaughey in "True Detective"

[scorpiusdiamond]

All this love for Childish Gambino/Donald Glover from Trent, I think I might explode if they ever did anything together.

[mfte]

I could really go for some stem tracks to remix from this trilogy.

[Pbgut]

I could really go for some stem tracks to remix from this trilogy.

I want to @ teitan about this. We need the stems!

[Frolick Shiawase]

Well, I want to throw money towards NIN, but the store is declining my debit card... Why even...

[Steven]

Trent has been talking about how pessimistic/nihilistic the last few releases have been but after listening to all of them I always feel a weird sense of confidence and optimism.

[Steven]

Punk industrial jazz...never thought it could go together so well

[FernandoDante]

I thought it would be cool to have a proper list on Ranker for people to vote on their favorite NIN albums. So yeah, I took the time to do that.

https://www.ranker.com/list/ranking-nine-inch-nails_-discography/fernando-scoczynski-filho


Does it deserve its own topic?

[Bachy]

This is an extremely odd comparison. But being one who grew up watching Professional Wrestling, after listening to all of NTAE/AV/BW, I feel like I did when the “old” Stone Cold returned to WWE. All that’s missing is Jim Ross’ commentary.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhKisE5000I

[thefragile_jake]

This is an extremely odd comparison. But being one who grew up watching Professional Wrestling, after listening to all of NTAE/AV/BW, I feel like I did when the “old” Stone Cold returned to WWE. All that’s missing is Jim Ross’ commentary.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhKisE5000I

God damn I loved this era of professional wrestling. Sure, maybe the Invasion didn't turn out that great in retrospective ... but the fallout of the end of WCW and what the hell could happen next was so much fun.

[Fred]

Whenever I listen to Less Than, I want Trent to scream "IT'S COCKLIKE" at the end of each chorus. Thanks for ruining me, ETS.

[elevenism]

So I guess YZ2 in 2022, during trump's second term?
I was sort of surprised that Trent didn't go into full on blatant protest mode with this trilogy and I'm kind of glad he didn't because what we got is so vital and nuanced.
But I've got to admit that I REALLY want something from Trent that is like an obvious scathing trump indictment.

[Reaps]

Really want TR&AR to score a horror film now after listening to Bad Witch.

[caca]

Really want TR&AR to score a horror film now after listening to Bad Witch.

David Fincher is slated to direct World War Z 2, so it’s very possible.

[Amaro]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0alWxx25jo

Yes.

[elevenism]

It trips me out how much I feel like Trent and I are often on the same wavelength. I've been interpreting NTAE as being about the fear of still just ultimately being a self destructive addict in the end.
I was careful to say that it's just MY interpretation, but then, I'll be damned, that IS what it's about. Edit: per recent interview
I know music is subjective and everyone interprets this shit differently, but if you've been a struggling addict, lemme tell you: NIN lyrics hit you in a certain frightening way.
And then, lately I've been having these frighteningly nihilistic thoughts (basically that NOTHING matters) and questioning my faith in god, but I just can't put it into words. And then, here comes Ahead of Ourselves.

Fucksake.

This band has hit me on such an insanely personal level, lyrically, since I was 12. Obviously we all probably feel that way, so this isn't very goddamn profound, but I think addicts will understand what I mean here.

I hate to say it but I would imagine that some of the people who NIN touched the most are dead or in prison. I certainly know that's the case with some of my closest friends who were NIN fanatics and are now six feet under.

[StockAvuryah]

The NIN Logos :

https://i.imgur.com/b2hlp6y.png

Surprised I didn't found anything like this before. So I made one.

[sweeterthan]

The NIN Logos :

https://i.imgur.com/jeolqPv.png

Surprised I didn't found anything like this before. So I made one.

I want to post this to the hotline social accounts. Is that cool? I will give you credit.




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[sheepdean]

The NIN Logos :

Surprised I didn't found anything like this before. So I made one.
Kinda impressive that despite all the variations, Talpas' original is still the true logo and simply gets edited by his successors

[StockAvuryah]

I want to post this to the hotline social accounts. Is that cool? I will give you credit.




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Yup but take the updated version with The Fragile and C&B&I :

https://i.imgur.com/b2hlp6y.png

edit : wait a minute on the youtube channel the NTAE logo seems to be similar to HM but not exactly. Oh well.

[sheepdean]

Yup but take the updated version with The Fragile and C&B&I :

https://i.imgur.com/b2hlp6y.png

edit : wait a minute on the youtube channel the NTAE logo seems to be similar to HM but not exactly. Oh well.
Technically you are missing one - Slip liner notes

[gorast]

I like the recent trend of cutting up the logo and using pieces of it in album and promotional art. Looks really cool, especially on merch.

[StockAvuryah]

Technically you are missing one - Slip liner notes

What's that one ?

[sheepdean]

What's that one ?

https://rob-sheridan.com/design/nine%20inch%20nails%20design/19

[katara]

The NIN Logos
Nice one.

There are actually a lot more than that, mostly the With Teeth logo variants on the 2005 tour lithographs designed by Rob Sheridan (e.g.: http://www.nin.wiki/images/7/7a/3_23-25_05_warm-ups.jpg)
And also there are the very different 2006 ones (don't remember the designer), like http://www.nin.wiki/images/f/f2/6_06_06-birmingham.jpg and http://www.nin.wiki/images/7/7c/6_14_06-camden.jpg

Full listing of these in a weird order: http://www.nin.wiki/Category:Tour_Lithos

There's also a new cropping of the NIN logo on the Europe 2018 tour shirt. You can see it here: https://twitter.com/ninlive/status/1010223630276550658?s=21

[elevenism]

https://rob-sheridan.com/design/nine%20inch%20nails%20design/19Oh shit! I was never able to read that until just now. I never knew way back t it was. Thx!!

[katara]

The comments on NIN's facebook are appalling. Bad Witch is a fantastic album; I'd like it even if it didn't have TR's name all over it. I actually don't understand how anyone can say this is bad music.

I feel that people just like being enraged. They enjoy the feeling of being upset at something and all ganging together to collectively shit all over it.
Either that or I'm insane and this is a fucking terrible album and everyone on ets has that same opposing mindset; that of the unified 'yes man' circle-jerk. But somehow, I don't think that's the case.

Of course opinions are a thing, and this is different from what people are used to. But it's not *that* different. It still feels like a NIN album, even if it has a different sonic approach.

To those who have nothing but negativity in their hearts: How about measured critique next time? Sort the stuff you enjoy from the stuff you aren't so keen on rather than just moronically yelling rage blankly into the abyss and hoping someone yells with you.
Also, try listening to the LP more than fucking once before you formulate an opinion. Culture has become so throw-away. If something isn't immediately accessible and easy to absorb, it's automatically subject to hate, ridicule, and is forgotten in an instant.

@teitan (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=109), Atticus, and everyone else involved in producing this music: Please don't let these arseholes get to you. You're great, as is this LP. The perfect end to a stellar trilogy. Thanks!

PS: Looking forward to seeing you guys again tonight. ♥

[Halo Infinity]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVoSQP2yUYA

Pretty Hate Machine being on a list of cassettes being sold on the Bose Express Music Catalog at 2:00 - 2:04. And well, I still figured that NIN fans that are also cassette fans might like this too.

[StockAvuryah]

sheepdean ow shit that's a NIN logo. Wow.
katara thanks a lot, the various broken ones coming from the original all have variations, but didn't know that pixelated one.
and didn't even see that new cropping, damn

[katara]

and didn't even see that new cropping, damn
I think it may be new for the European leg of this tour, so we've only known about it for a few days.

[Halo Infinity]

@elevenism (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=2475) @Prettybrokenspiral (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=911) - I can't find it right now, but there was a press sheet of some sort that introduced The Downward Spiral. It said that some would be for the ride and some won't, and that's why I like to call following Nine Inch Nails a ride.

And I noticed yet again that I found this part of Wish one of those moments that still spoke to me at 3:00 - 3:44. I guess this is more of a personal interpretation, but I took at as somebody that actually wants to fight as much as he can, in terms of wanting everything to be real and true/right, but not without the risk/consequences of being defeated from wanting to fight, especially when trapped in a system designed to imprison and destroy in the first place. What's real and true can still do a lot of damaged or even worse than what's fake and untrue.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuoFiIFkdAA

And as for another little moment I always loved and related to was when Trent hit his head with the microphone on Closure on 1:36 - 2:00, since sometimes life seems to make less sense the older you get, right up there with realizing just how little you know the more you learn and experience life.

And I always, always loved how that fit in perfectly between "Hey pig! There's a lot of things that I hoped you could help me understand!" and "What am I supposed to do? I lost my shit because of you!"

I know that we obviously can't always have all the answers and solutions handed over the us, but sometimes aside from just being happy, all we just want is for life to also just throw us a freakin' bone every now and then, right? :p


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ASv0Ezeaww

[Steven]

Also, try listening to the LP more than fucking once before you formulate an opinion. Culture has become so throw-away. If something isn't immediately accessible and easy to absorb, it's automatically subject to hate, ridicule, and is forgotten in an instant.



I've really tried giving all new music I listen to the benefit of the doubt. There are many albums that I half listen to then write off as crap or not really that good. THEN I listen to it very focused and engaged and it sounds freaking amazing. I feel like people don't like challenging/uncomfortable music, but that's what I love about Trent/Atticus/NIN, even if there's something they make that I don't like initially, I can come to either like it more over time or just simply appreciate it. I feel like many of the NIN Facebook people listened to 15 seconds to one of the songs then gave up.

[BRoswell]

Also, try listening to the LP more than fucking once before you formulate an opinion. Culture has become so throw-away. If something isn't immediately accessible and easy to absorb, it's automatically subject to hate, ridicule, and is forgotten in an instant.

That reminds me of what Trent said about Broken:


"I wanted to make a record that the first time you hear it you don't like it, but you might want to hear it again, but by the third time it's pretty cool. By the fifth time, you really like it and possibly by the tenth time you're not sick of it and now it all makes sense."

Unfortunately, in this day and age, if you don't love or loathe something right away, your opinion might as well not matter. I was unsure how I felt about Bad Witch on the very first listen. I liked it, but I needed it to really sink in before I could make up my mind about it. I've pretty much had that experience with every Nine Inch Nails release since I became a fan. There's the uneasiness of not being able to nail down (no pun intended) how I feel about it, then after a few listens, it starts to click into place.

[firewlker]

David Fincher is slated to direct World War Z 2, so it’s very possible.

World War Z is more like a action movie than a horror one, still a good movie but the worst thing was playing the same fucking lame music from Muse almost the whole movie.

Sadly the Silent Hills from Kojima was just an illusion. it would be a interesting thing to TR&AR to score.

[Steven]

[QUOTE=BRoswell;418004:
Unfortunately, in this day and age, if you don't love or loathe something right away, your opinion might as well not matter. I was unsure how I felt about Bad Witch on the very first listen. I liked it, but I needed it to really sink in before I could make up my mind about it. I've pretty much had that experience with every Nine Inch Nails release since I became a fan. There's the uneasiness of not being able to nail down (no pun intended) how I feel about it, then after a few listens, it starts to click into place.[/QUOTE]

A lot of Death Grips albums gave me this same feeling like: "I don't even know if I love this or hate this or are somewhere in between but I need to listen to it more..." It's a cool feeling.

[sheepdean]

Tonight, Trent said that that show was the final time they're playing I Can't Give Everything Away

[FULLMETAL]

StockAvuryah don't forget about this PHM variant design. (https://24-24-1-482.tumblr.com/post/170252222710/1989-promotional-album-flat-im-not-sure-if-the)

[Ryan Tollefson]

I’m revisiting year zero and finding it more relevant than ever...


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[eversonpoe]

Tonight, Trent said that that show was the final time they're playing I Can't Give Everything Away

whoa, any reason given?

[imail724]

A lot of Death Grips albums gave me this same feeling like: "I don't even know if I love this or hate this or are somewhere in between but I need to listen to it more..." It's a cool feeling.Death Grips is a good example, and I'd throw Danny Brown in there too. Couldn't figure out his appeal for the longest time, but for some reason I felt compelled to keep going back to it. Now I love him.

[Lerxto]

Now we need pre-order links for the remaining Definitive Edition reissues and soundtracks.

[StockAvuryah]

Tonight, Trent said that that show was the final time they're playing I Can't Give Everything Away

Aw man I wanted to see that in Paris

[sheepdean]

whoa, any reason given?
They wanted to retire the song to send it off, basically I think it was a bit too emotional for Trent and the guys

[ryanmcfly]

Death Grips is a good example, and I'd throw Danny Brown in there too. Couldn't figure out his appeal for the longest time, but for some reason I felt compelled to keep going back to it. Now I love him.

Dillinger gave me the same feeling at first.

[imail724]

Robin getting to do lead on Shit Mirror: very cool

[henryeatscereal]

this is an extremely odd comparison. But being one who grew up watching professional wrestling, after listening to all of ntae/av/bw, i feel like i did when the “old” stone cold returned to wwe. All that’s missing is jim ross’ commentary.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhkise5000i

*Does his best JR*

bah gawd!!! The "shit mirror" is shattered!!! ...stone cold!!! ...stone cold!!!