Random NIN Thoughts

[GibbonBlack]

This is pretty amazing, considering..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7Jufq1q348

Well done that lad! I love it when someone completely changes a song but keeps the essence in tact

[virushopper]

Currently I am booking a mini vacation in the Fall and hoping a NIN arena tour doesn't happen when I am out of town.

[Prettybrokenspiral]

I finally got my hands on this today:

http://www.valueyourmusic.com/items/201639658198-nine-inch-nails-live-8-x-cd-set-nyc-2009-wave-goodbye-tour


Does anyone else have this? I paid a grip for it, but I don't care. It only shows up every once in a great while, as far as I could tell. I was outbid on it the last three or four times it appeared. Those four NY shows were cumulatively the greatest live experience of my life and a physical document of it is a must-have.

[Prettybrokenspiral]

Also, this is hauntingly brilliant..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgL7JipWiss

[eversonpoe]

This is pretty amazing, considering..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7Jufq1q348

i can't believe i'm going to say this but i like that better than the original (i've also been getting into way heavier music lately, so that probably has something to do with it).

[niggo]

Random thought: That guitar riff from Heresy that kicks in right after the first chorus makes me wanna break stuff. So fucking awesome. I think it's even better than the post-chorus guitar riff from Last.

[ultimatebdp]

Saw APC last weekend and getting yelled at for standing up, then going through the whole show sitting pretty much ruined the concert for me.

What is the point of standing at an APC show? I love the first album and the second album was good, but they are one of the most boring live bands of all time.

NIN is 1,000,000 (pun) times better of a live band, so standing is actually an option.

[fillow]

I never was at APC show, but I was once at a concert where the pre-show music was just APC's 13th Step played from start to finish. Pretty much everyone who came early just stood uninterested, while I was rocking out with air drumming and miming to lyrics.
There are many ways to enjoy the show while standing other than moshing. APC is not that slow/quiet band to make me want take seats.

[Disassociative]

The show at Perth Arena in 2014, I was in the seating area which was still pretty damn close, and raised a decent amount too so the view wasn't obstructed or anything. Crowds really set off my anxiety so the idea of standing in GA surrounded and getting jostled around by people was a bit overwhelming. Still enjoyed the show immensely even though I was seated.

[Krazy]

What is the point of standing at an APC show? I love the first album and the second album was good, but they are one of the most boring live bands of all time.

NIN is 1,000,000 (pun) times better of a live band, so standing is actually an option.

I've stood at a Pearl Jam concert with seats in the nose bleeds, and they were 1,000,000 (no pun intended) times more boring than APC. If people sat for an entire APC set I can see them sitting for A LOT of NIN material.

I realize APC isn't a hard core thrash metal band, but they aren't Kenny G either.

[_T_B_W_]

I absolutely love going back to Gladcarrot's Wanted Recordings page and reading up on the Dance Party USA section which talks about buying the video for 1k+ from historicfilms if you really wanted it (for educational purposes) and probably having to sign a license to not put it up on video sites. We all know how that worked out in the end.

[sweeterthan]

I absolutely love going back to Gladcarrot's Wanted Recordings page and reading up on the Dance Party USA section which talks about buying the video for 1k+ from historicfilms if you really wanted it (for educational purposes) and probably having to sign a license to not put it up on video sites. We all know how that worked out in the end.

I sent that guy $5 because that shit was awesome. It went around like wild fire that day. My sister sent it to me and said "look at this guy doing nine inch nails karaoke." I replied "no, that's Trent." [emoji23]

[ultimatebdp]

I've stood at a Pearl Jam concert with seats in the nose bleeds, and they were 1,000,000 (no pun intended) times more boring than APC. If people sat for an entire APC set I can see them sitting for A LOT of NIN material.

I realize APC isn't a hard core thrash metal band, but they aren't Kenny G either.


Either way, standing at shows all depends on the crowd around you and the song being played. There have been times I’ve wanted to stand at big shows because I was excited, but if everyone around me is sitting down and I can still see…I sat down as a courtesy to the person behind me. If the person in front of me is standing, I’ve told people yelling at me to sit down to yell at that guy first!!

Sorry that I snapped about APC…I’m so turned off by anything sociopath-MJK related at this point that the only money he’s getting from me going forward is when I buy the next Tool album in 2025. He does nothing but treat his fans like shit, but has no problem milking them for cash playing the same set lists with a band(s) he won’t talk about. Aenima Tour in a relatively small club was one of the best shows I’ve ever seen, but now he only stands at the front of the stage for that overrated Poopcifer project. I guess that original excuse of camera flash bothering him doesn't apply when it's his solo project and he's getting all the attention. Seeing Tool nowadays is the same set list as the last 10 years, but at least you get to watch Danny Carey drum his ass off. Seeing APC means watching…Billy Howerdale and James Iha stand there? Forget sitting...that would make me lay on the floor!!

Give me Kenny G!! ;)

[Prettybrokenspiral]

http://riotfest.org/2017/05/riot-fest-horoscopes-may-15-2017/

I love everything about this :D

[tony.parente]

Everything about the rollout of NTAE/the fragile rerelease/the reissues (minus the music) has been a gigantic bummer from the start. I was looking forward to new music/the fragile DE and in a way firebrand completely ruined the excitement for me. The music is dope, but fuck man, everything else got completely fucked and it almost ruined this entire era for me.

[Rubeninphoenix]

and in a way firebrand completely ruined the excitement for me. The music is dope, but fuck man, everything else got completely fucked and it almost ruined this entire era for me.Quoted for truth! Firebrand has been so absolutely shitty to deal with that if I had to pick between giving the band most of the money or letting Amazon take a cut, I'd consider Amazon.

[Haysey_Draws]

http://riotfest.org/2017/05/riot-fest-horoscopes-may-15-2017/

Gemini (May 21 – June 20)
You are alone, but then again you always were. I think maybe it’s because you were never really real to begin with.


Yep, that's me alright! :D

[simonn]

This is old but Josh Freese put out a clip on instagram of a touring video he made with NIN

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUIyzWZhC7E/
I thought his drums at the end of piggy on the LITS tour were amazing. Wish i'd seen that tour

is the full video of this available anywhere, as if so, I've never seen it...?

[fillow]

is the full video of this available anywhere, as if so, I've never seen it...?
On his Youtube profile

[skullboy0]

On his Youtube profile

For the lazy:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v8MX1cF4jc

[blassster]

I'd like to hear more about the fully (?) analog remastering process for all of the DEs that TR briefly mentioned on here somewhere.

[HWB]

Everything about the rollout of NTAE/the fragile rerelease/the reissues (minus the music) has been a gigantic bummer from the start. I was looking forward to new music/the fragile DE and in a way firebrand completely ruined the excitement for me. The music is dope, but fuck man, everything else got completely fucked and it almost ruined this entire era for me.

The NTAE Era will be remembered as kickass and most of the Firebrand stuff will be remembered only by us who were here to witness it and just laught at that while we rock out to this badass EP

[HWB]

In order to celebrate Trent's birhtday I am listening to the entire discography (at least the main albums, therefore no really singles or remix albums) of NIN in one sitting.

Currently at "Kinda I Want To" and holy shit this track kinda kicks ass. I remember being bored by most of PHM but I am fuckin' pumped, OH SHIT HERE COMES SIN THIS SHIT COMES IN HARD.

[Kulerage]

http://riotfest.org/2017/05/riot-fest-horoscopes-may-15-2017/
Cancer here. I certainly hope I get what I deserve. ):<

[butter_hole]

not sure if this is NIN spotting but now YOU can buy Trent Reznors house. For Sale. a cool 6 million should cover it

http://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/hot-property/la-fi-hotprop-trent-reznor-beverly-crest-20170516-story.html
Is it me or have they turned the studio into a movie room?

[ninjaw]

not sure if this is NIN spotting but now YOU can buy Trent Reznors house. For Sale. a cool 6 million should cover it
http://www.latimes.com/business/realestate/hot-property/la-fi-hotprop-trent-reznor-beverly-crest-20170516-story.html

Is it me or ̶h̶e̶ ̶t̶u̶r̶n̶e̶d̶ ̶5̶1̶ ̶t̶o̶d̶a̶y̶ ̶?̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶a̶r̶t̶i̶c̶l̶e̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶r̶e̶a̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶u̶p̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶d̶a̶t̶e̶ they're wrong about his age with 24h late.

[implanted_microchip]

Annoying people who aren't at all familiar with NTAE by putting on Burning Bright has become a new hobby of mine -- it makes Broken sound accessible and I love it for it so, so much.

[Halo Infinity]

The NTAE Era will be remembered as kickass and most of the Firebrand stuff will be remembered only by us who were here to witness it and just laught at that while we rock out to this badass EP
That's one of the things I've always kept noticing with NIN. Aside from the actual music itself, just about every single major release has a special/unique memory/experience attached to it, good, bad and all in between. It's yet another thing that has made the NIN ride so worthwhile.

[buckaroo]

I feel like the new season of Twin Peaks might be a springboard for one of the new Nine Inch Nails projects coming out this year. Maybe I am crazy.

[eversonpoe]

About a minute in. (http://www.npr.org/2017/05/18/528922892/composer-angelo-badalamenti-master-of-mood-returns-to-twin-peaks)

:D


three posts above you, bub :p

[Shadaloo]

Fuck. Well, The mental image of TR binge-watching TP is a great one. :P

[somewhat_]

I get the sense that next week will be a big week in the world of nin.

- With vinyl releases and more festival announcements coming, plus for whatever reason, I'm hopeful for proper tour dates. Who knows, maybe we will even get new album info with the 10th anniversary of year zero being Monday (I'm thinking there is a year zero tie in with the next album) - probably a stretch, but a random thought.

Well, the only thing that came to fruition from that was the riot fest announcement.

Here's to hoping next week with twin peaks and possibly the vinyls coming out that there will be a major uptick in nin activity (like some proper tour dates announced).

[_T_B_W_]

I hope one day Trent gets to make the intro theme to Doctor Who. Who nose, Peter Capaldi may have gifted him a functioning Tardis for his recent birthday and used it to travel forwards to where his theme was appropriate enough for the BBC to give it the greenlight.

[nooneimportant]

I figured you guys would like my emblem that I use on Call of Duty: Black Ops III.

http://i.imgur.com/b7pyioZ.png

[eversonpoe]

I hope one day Trent gets to make the intro theme to Doctor Who. Who nose, Peter Capaldi may have gifted him a functioning Tardis for his recent birthday and used it to travel forwards to where his theme was appropriate enough for the BBC to give it the greenlight.

i got to do a metal version of it for a doctor who play i worked on a couple years ago. it was a lot of fun.

[sick among the pure]

I figured you guys would like my emblem that I use on Call of Duty: Black Ops III.

http://i.imgur.com/b7pyioZ.png

My emblem is the AIR flag :D

[CaptainSelection]

Don't know if this counts as a strictly random Nine Inch Nails thought but fuck it.

I hope beyond hope that someday soon there will be new How To Destroy Angels. It was criminally underrated and I fear that TR might be under the impression that there's just not enough interest to justify the cost of composing, recording, and releasing any more of it. But maybe someday they'll release more. If you believe in it. Keep believing it.

[kel]

Don't know if this counts as a strictly random Nine Inch Nails thought but fuck it.

I hope beyond hope that someday soon there will be new How To Destroy Angels. It was criminally underrated and I fear that TR might be under the impression that there's just not enough interest to justify the cost of composing, recording, and releasing any more of it. But maybe someday they'll release more. If you believe in it. Keep believing it.

here ya go:

http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/forums/9-How-to-destroy-angels_

[Ryan]

Not sure where to really put this but I just came across this on youtube, a bunch of kids covering The Collector.


https://youtu.be/uS_1dKJFNG0

Something seems wrong with that kid singing the open my mouth / good boy / swallow it all part.

[Kulerage]

Something seems wrong with that kid singing the open my mouth / good boy / swallow it all part.
It was already weird when Trent sang it, now it's like creepy.

[Prettybrokenspiral]

Lost Highway put David Lynch onto America’s car stereos (http://www.avclub.com/article/lost-highway-put-david-lynch-americas-car-stereos-254610)

Posted this over in the Twin Peaks thread, too

Though the only reason I think that soundtrack got so much attention at the time was because Trent's first new song in three years was on it.

That being said, it's still an excellent collection of music when taken as a whole. The Smashing Pumpkins song on it is still one of my favorite songs by them ever..

[HWB]

This is the most random thing to post, but thanks to one YouTube comment on "Letting You" I laught my ass off sometimes whenever I connect the comment and the song to it.

"I'M GUNNA GO SUPER SAYAANN ON YOUR AAAASSSSSSS!!!!!"

I don't know, what it is, the image of Trent going Super Sayan in Letting You just gets to me, especially how hardcore that particular song is.

Just random thought.

[imail724]

Interview with Rob about NIN, Year Zero ARG, HTDA, etc....:

http://warp.la/editoriales/from-the-mag-rob-sheridan-art-is-resistance-2
Without reading through the whole article right now, does he mention at all whose decision it was for him to leave? Curious if he decided he wanted a break or Trent just decided he wanted to go in a different direction.

[baudolino]

Without reading through the whole article right now, does he mention at all whose decision it was for him to leave? Curious if he decided he wanted a break or Trent just decided he wanted to go in a different direction.

"After 15 years, it was just the right time, for everyone. Fresh talent will be good for NIN, and I’ve been thinking about personal projects I’ve wanted to do for years that I now have the time for."

[TheRealNs1]

all he says

Why are you currently taking a break from NIN’s world?After 15 years, it was just the right time, for everyone. Fresh talent will be good for NIN, and I’ve been thinking about personal projects I’ve wanted to do for years that I now have the time for.

[imail724]

Yeah I saw that bit. That can really be taken either way.

[WorzelG]

Interesting that he mentioned Tension as the most stressful thing, wouldnt blame him for wanting a break after that. He looked like he was about to collapse with exhaustion in the tour documentary

[TheRealNs1]

Yeah I saw that bit. That can really be taken either way.

it can't be that bad if Trent doesn't throw your equipment into the garbage

[sonic_discord]

it can't be that bad if Trent doesn't throw your equipment into the garbage

LOL!! I remember reading about that here years ago.

[GavinCollins420]

LOL!! I remember reading about that here years ago.

What is this referring to?

[_T_B_W_]

What is this referring to?

Charlie Clouser being unceremoniously kicked out of the band.

[GavinCollins420]

Charlie Clouser being unceremoniously kicked out of the band.

Pardon my ignorance, but I don't think I've heard this story. Have you got a link?

[_T_B_W_]

Pardon my ignorance, but I don't think I've heard this story. Have you got a link?

PMed

[fillow]

At least he didn't piss in anyone's shoes this time

[GavinCollins420]

At least he didn't piss in anyone's shoes this time

Um...

[Krazy]

Pretty sure that's a reference to Robin when Aaron North was named the NIN guitarist.

EDIT: here's Meathead on it, this is the only place I've heard it so not sure if that was an actual TR quote. Gonna have to read down some:

http://www.theninhotline.net/meatpers/html/mp080405.htm

[blassster]

Pretty sure that's a reference to Robin when Aaron North was named the NIN guitarist.

EDIT: here's Meathead on it, this is the only place I've heard it so not sure if that was an actual TR quote. Gonna have to read down some:

http://www.theninhotline.net/meatpers/html/mp080405.htm
http://www.nin.wiki/images/7/7c/2005_01_22Questions1.gif

TR can be harsh. I'm glad it didn't scare Robin away for good.

[sick among the pure]

Same. It was upsetting to read that, as a fan of Robin's playing and singing as well as his general stage presence. I'm just glad Robin is back, seemingly for good.

[xolotl]

TR can be harsh. I'm glad it didn't scare Robin away for good.

Same. It was upsetting to read that, as a fan of Robin's playing and singing as well as his general stage presence.

Yeah, I remember being rather surprised by that statement as well, but I think that it comes off sounding more harsh than it was intended, really. The "[pissing] on Robin's shoes and [kicking] them out the door where they belong" bit stands out as being rather aggressive, but it's bookended by stuff like "looking for someone to fill [his] shoes," and calling his time with Robin "a great chapter." I think the pissing on shoes was more just about Aaron's general fuck-everything attitude while playing, and an indication of intentionally severing ties with the past, rather than an attack on Robin. I too am glad that it didn't cause a rift! I suspect that their parting of ways was actually quite amicable behind the scenes.

[Halo Infinity]

It still occurs to me that whenever I think about Trent's picture inside With Teeth, I still always ending up picturing this, thanks to Meathead. :)

http://www.theninhotline.net/meatpers/img/042205_westside.jpg

http://www.theninhotline.net/meatpers/html/mp050422.htm

@reznovka (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=471) Destruct26 - I just thought that you might like to see this, also in some hopes for the trend to continue. ;)

[Halo Infinity]

I suppose I kept forgetting it, because I hardly ever thought about it, but it sometimes seems like certain Nine Inch Nails lyrics and moments can be also interpreted as passive-aggressiveness and sarcasm. (Kind of like in a "All right, just pound a stake in my heart some more, why don't you!?" or "Ah, I feel like a million bucks. Couldn't get any better than this. Don't mind the knives in my back." type of way.)

It makes even more sense now that it has occurred to me, because it's very much possible to have those traits sometimes mix in with emotions such as rage, emptiness and misery, or themes such as addiction and ego. It certainly adds more dimensions than I've previously considered or even known to my listening experience so far, while also giving me some dark humor to boot. (Which I'm sure was implied in some of his videos too.)

Some examples I could think of for now would be Head Like A Hole, Ringfinger, Wish and Happiness in Slavery. I'm also feeling a lot of it in Burning Bright (Field on Fire) as far as his most recent work goes. I'm sure that's also yet another reason as to why I love that song so much as it's also one of the NIN songs that has me feeling multiple emotions at once. Break through the surface and breath. Indeed.

I just wanted to get that out there before I forget about it again.

[Destruct26]

it still occurs to me that whenever i think about trent's picture inside with teeth, i still always ending up picturing this, thanks to meathead. :)

http://www.theninhotline.net/meatpers/img/042205_westside.jpg

http://www.theninhotline.net/meatpers/html/mp050422.htm

@reznovka (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=471) @destruct26 (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=4049) - i just thought that you might like to see this, also in some hopes for the trend to continue. ;)

long live meathead!!!!!!

[reznovka]

It still occurs to me that whenever I think about Trent's picture inside With Teeth, I still always ending up picturing this, thanks to Meathead. :)

http://www.theninhotline.net/meatpers/img/042205_westside.jpg

http://www.theninhotline.net/meatpers/html/mp050422.htm

@reznovka (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=471) @Destruct26 (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=4049) - I just thought that you might like to see this, also in some hopes for the trend to continue. ;)


made my day <3

[cashpiles (closed)]

What destroyed NIN? Atticus Ross.

[Prettybrokenspiral]

After slamming the album on Twitter (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/trent-reznor-uses-twitter-to-slam-chris-cornells-scream-20090312), Reznor told Rolling Stone he “immediately regretted” doing so.

Uh huh. Regretted it so much, he made that hilarious Strobe Light parody a month later ( http://www.nin.wiki/Strobe_Light )


Ahead of NIN’s 2014 tour (http://www.spin.com/2014/03/soundgarden-nine-inch-nails-tour-collaboration-trent-reznor-chris-cornell-feud/) with Soundgarden, Reznor said he emailed Cornell to apologize. “He was very cool and generous about it – ‘It’s the past, fuck it. Let’s go on,’” he said. “The Chris I met on that tour was a gentleman that completely had his shit together.”

I can't wait for 'Scream' to get that inevitable vinyl release in the next few years, so we can see critics and musicians alike suddenly praising it for being a daring experimental excursion that was far ahead of its time..

[Prettybrokenspiral]

I got the "Feel The Pain" 1995 soundboard bootleg in the mail today: https://www.discogs.com/Nine-Inch-Nails-Feel-The-Pain/release/1412249

This was the second NIN show I ever saw, preceded by the show in Hershey five days prior (found on the 'Monsters In Space" boot: https://www.discogs.com/Nine-Inch-Nails-Monsters-In-Space/release/1413833)

Feel The Pain is the same as the Children of the Night bootleg, but with way better packaging, including an 8-page booklet of photos and tour dates. These were the first two "real" concerts I ever attended and I had to do hilariously shitty work for my parents for months afterwards just so I could go. Still worth it though; seeing and hearing that version of 'Hurt' with Bowie was absolutely soul-consuming and was the closest thing to an out of body experience I've ever known..

[Helpmeiaminhell (is now in hell)]

Uh huh. Regretted it so much, he made that hilarious Strobe Light parody a month later ( http://www.nin.wiki/Strobe_Light )



I can't wait for 'Scream' to get that inevitable vinyl release in the next few years, so we can see critics and musicians alike suddenly praising it for being a daring experimental excursion that was far ahead of its time..

Or Audioslave for that matter....Critics MASSACRED everything Cornell has done post 1996...Audioslave got horrific reviews (esp their 2nd and 3rd albums) and his 2007 solo album Carry On got almost as bad reviews as Scream..now everything will be regarded as unappreciated works of genius....Apparently sales and streams of Cornell albums are up 550% this week....550%!!!

[sonic_discord]

Uh huh. Regretted it so much, he made that hilarious Strobe Light parody a month later ( http://www.nin.wiki/Strobe_Light )



It's entirely possible that I'm missing something due to my ignorance of Cornell's solo material (I'm most familiar with his Soundgarden output), but what does Strobe Light have to do with him? The only thing I see is the "PRODUCED BY TIMBALAND" mention, which seems more like a dig on Timbaland (I am aware that he produced Scream, though) than anything.

[sick among the pure]

If I could ever find even a mediocre recording of my first show (Erie 06) I would be so happy. I've only ever found 2 very low quality old cellphone clips from the 200-300 level seats which I think have been removed from YouTube anyway.

[hani]

http://i.imgur.com/ySLQWse.png

spotify what are you doing

[HWB]

What destroyed NIN? Atticus Ross.

Where did this Ross hate start even? Taking away the "dirty" sound? The Slip, Year Zero were dity as fuck and raw as hell, don't even get me started how dirty Not The Actual Events is.

I don't get it.

[eversonpoe]

Where did this Ross hate start even? Taking away the "dirty" sound? The Slip, Year Zero were dity as fuck and raw as hell, don't even get me started how dirty Not The Actual Events is.

I don't get it.

not to mention Ghosts. even if you don't LIKE that album, you have to acknowledge that it was trent as his most experimental and fresh, and atticus co-wrote the whole album with him.

[HWB]

not to mention Ghosts. even if you don't LIKE that album, you have to acknowledge that it was trent as his most experimental and fresh, and atticus co-wrote the whole album with him.

And Tetsuo Bullet Man Theme.

[PhoenixML]

Oho... I've made the realisation that I never had Deep 4:06 version. :O What do I do?

[niggo]

And Tetsuo Bullet Man Theme.

I always thought Trent wrote that on his own, I just recently found out that Atticus was involved in that, too.

If you ask me, one of the best songs they ever did.

[xolotl]

spotify what are you doing

Are you saying that their tracklisting is... broken??!?

I... I'll see myself out.

[SM Rollinger]

Ive said it before and I'll say it again, ive just listened to Beside You In Time, Trent is totally yelling "START THE SONG!!!" at the beginning of Burn & Witha Teetha.

Of course he is, TR is sick of listening to the loops and wants to RAWK.

Come on guys, wut else could it be?

[sheepdean]

What destroyed NIN? Atticus Ross.
One of my favourite things is reading articles from the early 90s saying Broken's new sound ruined NIN's appeal, and that TDS's weird piano stuff ruined NIN, and don't forget P4K saying Fragile ruined NIN.

Everything apparently ruins NIN depending on what eras you enjoy. Personally I think not releasing Strobe Light ruined NIN

[niggo]

Ive said it before and I'll say it again, ive just listened to Beside You In Time, Trent is totally yelling "START THE SONG!!!" at the beginning of Burn & Witha Teetha.

Of course he is, TR is sick of listening to the loops and wants to RAWK.

Come on guys, wut else could it be?

That must be an insider. I don't get the joke. :(

[HWB]

One of my favourite things is reading articles from the early 90s saying Broken's new sound ruined NIN's appeal, and that TDS's weird piano stuff ruined NIN, and don't forget P4K saying Fragile ruined NIN.

Everything apparently ruins NIN depending on what eras you enjoy. Personally I think not releasing Strobe Light ruined NIN

The ambient opening of Head Like A Hole ruined NIN, obviously.

[fillow]

I thought it was obvious that Ruiner ruined NIN.

[Ryan]

I thought it was obvious that Ruiner ruined NIN.

It infected NIN too.

[Microwave Jellyfish]

Everything apparently ruins NIN
It definitely did, according to a lot of folks circa summer 2013

[niggo]

It definitely did, according to a lot of folks circa summer 2013

*ba dum tss*

Nice one.

[virushopper]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BUvpNoxFcDq/?hl=en

I like to believe that this is Alessandro's live rig for the upcoming dates.

[r_z]

Making fun of yourself as a rock icon from the 90s for doing an album with Timbaland has nothing to do with Cornell, of course. Except for the fact that Cornell was the only rock icon from the 90s who did an album with Timbaland. Which T-Rez heard. And publicly trashed.

[zecho]

Ive said it before and I'll say it again, ive just listened to Beside You In Time, Trent is totally yelling "START THE SONG!!!" at the beginning of Burn & Witha Teetha.

Of course he is, TR is sick of listening to the loops and wants to RAWK.

Come on guys, wut else could it be?

He says "three, four." He's counting the band in.

[sonic_discord]

interview with TR claiming the record label wanted him to record with Timbaland or have Timbaland remix some of his songs during the With Teeth era. He even says how he let Timbaland remix "Hand That Feeds' and that it was a piece of shit. I think the Timbaland dig on Strobe Light had more to do with that than Cornell actually

http://pitchfork.com/news/35745-reznor-reveals-rejected-timbaland-remix/

I DO remember that and I think that makes more sense.

[niggo]

He says "three, four." He's counting the band in.

I think that's pretty easy to hear, hence my comment that it's probably an inside joke. :D

[Haysey_Draws]

Is this an Onion article?

http://clrvynt.com/trim-the-fat-nin-fragile/

DID THEY JUST SAY LA MER COULD BE "TRIMMED"?! FUCKING MUPPETS!

...sorry, lost myself for a second, yeah that is a very...strange article.

[niggo]

Is this an Onion article?

http://clrvynt.com/trim-the-fat-nin-fragile/

Wish I hadn't read that.

[Ryan]

Is this an Onion article?

http://clrvynt.com/trim-the-fat-nin-fragile/

“PLEASE”
It sounds like one of the most straightforward songs on the record, but look a little closer and there’s a great deal of detail in this seemingly simple song. The themes of an internal void, of insatiability, of want or desire unfulfilled are reaffirmed here. If you can, get your hands on “Please + Appendage,” which appears in the special edition and originally appeared on the vinyl pressing of the album, and gives the song a little more room to breathe.


WRONG!

[niggo]

Not only wrong but also fucking strange. How does Appendage give "the song a little more room to breathe"? Appendage melts your fucking ears off. In a good way, but still.

[Haysey_Draws]

I think we can all agree whoever wrote that was a fucking spanner! That wasn't "trimming the fat", it was just taking off songs, from a nearly 20 year old record, just because he personally didn't like them. What's next, trimming the fat from Pink Floyd's the Wall because he didn't like the weird interludes and some of the non radio friendly songs?! Trimming the Led Zeppelin catalog to make one complete hour of songs he personally thinks are the only good ones!? Smashing the Big Four together and discarding most of the tracks as they're all "too heavy for him"!?!

...i may have ranted a bit there.

[fillow]

What's next, trimming the fat from Pink Floyd's the Wall?

Take it easy. It seems to be MO of this particular website - cutting big pieces of work down just for fun. Of course this will generate traffic with all the angry fanbase reposts. Right at the bottom of the article is a link to a similar one, where they trim Pumpkins' MCIS, for example.

It's also funny how a half of your forum posts are rants, immediately followed by apologies.

[Haysey_Draws]

It's also funny how a half of your forum posts are rants, immediately followed by apologies.

You're not the first person to bring this up, apparently i do it in person as well :rolleyes:

You are right though, it is the point of some of their pieces. I just find that a bit lazy to be honest, but each to their own.

[Kulerage]

So, we're halfway through the year and no word on the two upcoming projects. I'd say we're off to a great start tbh

[GibbonBlack]

So, we're halfway through the year and no word on the two upcoming projects. I'd say we're off to a great start tbh

Dude, it's Nine Inch Nails. That's kinda how it works :p

[_T_B_W_]

I hope Closer To God is performed on any future dates, even if it's a one off.

[implanted_microchip]

To be fair, we got to December of last year increasingly concinced all we'd get was a new single and then NTAE happened. I'm at a point where I'm not going to worry until it's New Year's Eve.

[HurtinMinorKey]

DID THEY JUST SAY LA MER COULD BE "TRIMMED"?! FUCKING MUPPETS!

...sorry, lost myself for a second, yeah that is a very...strange article.


I pretty much agree here with the exception of La Mer and JLYI.

[ultimatebdp]

So, we're halfway through the year and no word on the two upcoming projects. I'd say we're off to a great start tbh

Just means the last half of the year should be a good time...or at least the last two weeks of the year. :p

[neorev]

Alright seriously,... WTF. http://clrvynt.com/trim-the-fat-nin-fragile/

The Mellon Collie one they did infuriates me even more. Cut some amazing tracks.

[Prettybrokenspiral]

http://clrvynt.com/trim-the-fat-nin-fragile/

I agree with this Mike Rancid guy, as great as the Fragile truly is, Trent made some poor judgement calls on his sequencing and which tracks were included. A much better version would be:

1. Somewhat Damaged
2. The Day The World Went Away
3. The Frail
4. The Wretched
5. Missing Places
6. We're In This Together
7. The Fragile
8. Just Like You Imagined
9. The March
10. Deep
11. Even Deeper
12. Pilgrimage
13. One Way To Get There
14. No, You Don't
15. Taken
16. La Mer
17. The Great Below

18. Not What It Seems Like
19. White Mask
20. The New Flesh
21. The Way Out Is Through
22. Into The Void
23. Where Is Everybody?
24. The Mark Has Been Made
25. Was It Worth It?
26. Please
27. +Appendage
28. Can I Stay Here?
29. 10 Miles High
30. Feeders
31. Starfuckers, Inc.
32. Complication
33. Claustrophobia Machine (Raw)
34. Last Heard From
35. I'm Looking Forward To Joining You, Finally
36. The Big Come Down
37. Underneath It All
38. Ripe (With Decay)
39. And All That Could Have Been
--. The Perfect Drug (Hidden Track)

After almost five years of waiting, this tracklisting would have made much more sense to me..

[sonic_discord]

As much as I love The Perfect Drug, I don't think it would fit on The Fragile. It would stand out as an anomaly, especially if it were just tacked on at the end. Ripe (with Decay) is the perfect way to end that album. I do think that And All That Could Have Been would feel at home on The Fragile, but I don't think I'd place it there, after Ripe for the same reason (perhaps before it?). As for Deep, it's a decent song, but it's nowhere near the caliber of quality of most of the songs on The Fragile and I don't feel that it belongs there either. That being said, I would definitely give the rest of your customized version a spin!

[neorev]

I honestly never really dug Ripe (With Decay). It's alright, but probably the weakest closing track for an NIN album in my book.

And All The Could Have Been would definitely be my choice as a closer. Such an amazing track, up their with the best Fragile tracks. If it's not the last track, then it would be second to last with Underneath It All as the closer.

I think it's a perfect ending, quite a sad ending too, especially when you look at it lyrically with the rest of the album. The album is called The Fragile. There's lots of "we're in this together" and "I won't let you fall apart" type lyrics within the album. Chasing a love, a fix, a cure. Only then to realize in the end that he is tainted, he is not complete, and realizes he can't be with the one he's been chasing and yearning for this whole time. A moment of beauty and sharing love only to be shattered with the inability to deal with one's inner demons. Hence being fragile. Something that feels so beautiful in the moment, but easily breakable. Ending with And All That Could Have Been would have been perfect. Like this whole album was a thought or a wish. Things could have been beautiful, but in the end they are falling apart. Love is fragile, life is fragile, being/existence is fragile. That song is like looking at the past and thinking "oh how amazing it could have all been." And if you're unhappy with yourself, you will never feel complete. Your personal demons will continue to erode the one you love if you can't fix yourself from being fragile.

Or I'm looking way too much into this.

[Ryan]

Is this an Onion article?

http://clrvynt.com/trim-the-fat-nin-fragile/

These people =


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en-lWUxhcuw

[GibbonBlack]

I just found out that Craig Ferguson has a podcast (https://www.thecraigfergusonshow.com/), then I found out that he recently had Bill Burr on (two of my absolute favorite comedians, listening to it right now (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VGr29aIGn4)) :)

That exact thing happened to me today. It showed up on my youtube recommendations. I love Burr!

[seasonsinthesky]

I honestly never really dug Ripe (With Decay). It's alright, but probably the weakest closing track for an NIN album in my book.

And All The Could Have Been would definitely be my choice as a closer. Such an amazing track, up their with the best Fragile tracks. If it's not the last track, then it would be second to last with Underneath It All as the closer.

I think it's a perfect ending, quite a sad ending too, especially when you look at it lyrically with the rest of the album. The album is called The Fragile. There's lots of "we're in this together" and "I won't let you fall apart" type lyrics within the album. Chasing a love, a fix, a cure. Only then to realize in the end that he is tainted, he is not complete, and realizes he can't be with the one he's been chasing and yearning for this whole time. A moment of beauty and sharing love only to be shattered with the inability to deal with one's inner demons. Hence being fragile. Something that feels so beautiful in the moment, but easily breakable. Ending with And All That Could Have Been would have been perfect. Like this whole album was a thought or a wish. Things could have been beautiful, but in the end they are falling apart. Love is fragile, life is fragile, being/existence is fragile. That song is like looking at the past and thinking "oh how amazing it could have all been." And if you're unhappy with yourself, you will never feel complete. Your personal demons will continue to erode the one you love if you can't fix yourself from being fragile.

Or I'm looking way too much into this.

And it musically contains a reprise of a motif from The Great Below, tying the ends of both discs together.

I think it was either unfinished or simply too perfect/rounded-out for how The Fragile needed to feel. I don't think we are supposed to feel like TF is in any way a complete thought or a story with a beginning, middle and end. It's supposed to be fragments and hanging disconnects, incomplete, multiple roads to nowhere that sometimes intersect. You're not supposed to find anything – you're supposed to stay lost.

[SarahConnor]

I wonder if Reznor's credit in the Twin Peaks cast will be a performance in the Bang Bang Bar that closes the episodes. Most musicians in the cast-list appear to be playing themselves at those shows. But then again, he may have a cameo. Lynch is writing in alot of one-scene stuff for a variety of well-cast players. ...I also expect one of those releases before these June/July festival shows.

[cheddamash]

I just found out that Craig Ferguson has a podcast (https://www.thecraigfergusonshow.com/)...

I'm having the same realization boys! I love Ferguson! I find it super annoying that he seems to exclusively be on SiriusXM, not to mention super poorly advertised as well. There's only the tiniest of reference to SiriusXM on his own damn website and no mention of it at all on his Twitter. This might be why we've only come to realize this show exists today and why in the Bill Burr episode he has to completely make up the notion that he has the "#2 radio show in the world".

[sick among the pure]

Once the episode goes up with Trent and Robin, I expect you guys to let me know.

[blassster]

Alessandro is in it too, but just a scene of him playing keys (heard of this via Jeordie's Hour of Goon podcast).

[Prettybrokenspiral]

As much as I love The Perfect Drug, I don't think it would fit on The Fragile. It would stand out as an anomaly, especially if it were just tacked on at the end. Ripe (with Decay) is the perfect way to end that album. I do think that And All That Could Have Been would feel at home on The Fragile, but I don't think I'd place it there, after Ripe for the same reason (perhaps before it?). As for Deep, it's a decent song, but it's nowhere near the caliber of quality of most of the songs on The Fragile and I don't feel that it belongs there either. That being said, I would definitely give the rest of your customized version a spin!

That post I made was supposed to be a joke. The guy was bitching about the length of The Fragile, and cut it in half.

I made it twice as long, with every known track from that era, plus TPD as a hidden track.

Nevermind..

[sonic_discord]

That post I made was supposed to be a joke. The guy was bitching about the length of The Fragile, and cut it in half.

I made it twice as long, with every known track from that era, plus TPD as a hidden track.

Nevermind..

Sorry, your post didn't come across as a joke to me. I have seen a LOT of very similar posts here in which people create their own custom super, ultra, mega deluxe version of The Fragile and it didn't appear to be dripping with sarcasm, so I took it at face value. Anyway, I did read part of that article and got the general gist of it, but I couldn't bring myself to read the whole thing.

[HWB]

Find My Way is drastically underrated.

Also my mind was blown

When I noticed that during 2:55, Trent is actually saying in whispers "I never meant to..", that line really hits into the guts.

[fillow]

Lethal Weapon finale had a song that sounded very similar to Trent and Atticuss - Still Gone

https://youtu.be/vRhDSNfh7zk?t=30

yeah, it's a thing to do now. this isn't the first show to blatabtly rip off TRAR scores in recent years

[eversonpoe]

Not new at all, but I've never seen this pre-NIN picture before

https://twitter.com/InsaneArticles/status/871615179917864960

OH MY GOD YOU CAN SEE HIS GINGER HAIR what a cutie! <3 <3 <3

also, it's weird to see trent playing a fender strat. great color for that guitar.

[sonic_discord]

yeah, it's a thing to do now. this isn't the first show to blatabtly rip off TRAR scores in recent years


Yeah, I've definitely noticed a few that sound remarkably similar. The music Mac Quayle made for Mr. Robot is another example, although it's fantastic and if you ask me, falls more into "heavily inspired by" territory than "ripoff" territory. The show is amazing too.

[Kulerage]

Not new at all, but I've never seen this pre-NIN picture before

https://twitter.com/InsaneArticles/status/871615179917864960
Curious as to what band this was

[Frozen Beach]

http://i.imgur.com/jMQwFv7.jpg
Found this comment on a BloodyDisgusting article and couldn't help but laugh at it. What the hell is this guys problem?

[thevoid99]

http://i.imgur.com/jMQwFv7.jpg
Found this comment on a BloodyDisgusting article and couldn't help but laugh at it. What the hell is this guys problem?

What an asshole this guy is.

[sweeterthan]

Meh. There's always some dumbass who thinks they know the score because they listened to pretty hate machine a couple of times.


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[Xvostya]

Hmm..

http://nin.su/nin-shortly.png

[LOVEANDZOMBIES]

^Not sure how to resize that LOL, but NIN, MANSON, APC, and OZZY... Maybe it should be big.

[Detunez]

randomly thinking about a mechanical anus pushing out a pile of tortured has been.

[imail724]

Anyone else find it interesting that the nin.com post regarding that festival specifically mentions "Manson the next night" considering their past? First Trent posted about Antichrist on his Instagram, then I think he followed him on IG or Twitter or something, and now this? Probably doesn't mean anything, just seemed worth mentioning.

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[ninjaw]

Anyone else find it interesting that the nin.com post regarding that festival specifically mentions "Manson the next night" considering their past? First Trent posted about Antichrist on his Instagram, then I think he followed him on IG or Twitter or something, and now this? Probably doesn't mean anything, just seemed worth mentioning.


No, when did you think they didn't like each other ?

[sick among the pure]

No, when did you think they didn't like each other ?
Probably during that time when they talked shit about eachother?

[Haysey_Draws]

https://scontent.fsnc1-4.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18922552_1577124048964924_8423927034569468139_o.jp g?oh=c632de452c99c96b97d5afb0930962da&oe=599F33AB

OH WOW :eek:

[ninjaw]

Probably during that time when they talked shit about eachother?

Was it before the reunion in the 2002 dvd ?

[fillow]

Was it before the reunion in the 2002 dvd ?
Did you live under the rock or what?
It all went downhill very long ago, after the 2002 DVD.

Exhibit 1
http://www.nin.wiki/images/2/2b/7_21_04questions2.gif

Exhibit 2
http://www.nin.wiki/images/d/d5/2004_05_07Questions5.gif

Then there was TR calling MM a 'dopey clown' and then later Manson accusing TR of losing Antichrist Superstar master tapes on purpose.

And so on.

[ninjaw]

Did you live under the rock or what?
It all went downhill very long ago, after the 2002 DVD.

Exhibit 1


Exhibit 2


Then there was TR calling MM a 'dopey clown' and then later Manson accusing TR of losing Antichrist Superstar master tapes on purpose.

And so on.

Yeah well master tapes were found a long time ago now, and TR still love ACS. MM is still clearly highly on dope, more and more. Did you just used 2005 pictures ?

[Haysey_Draws]

Finally, the single piece of merch we have all been waiting for! (https://smile.amazon.com/Tri-Spinner-Reducer-Perfect-Anxiety-Children/dp/B071FTM5LQ/ref=pd_cart_sbs_1_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=2P4QZTK6WNSF3AG6WGHV fuck yeahhhhhh)

"Feels Smooth And Comforting Right In Your Pocket"

...i don't think that's how they work :rolleyes:

[tony.parente]

So...guys. I saw a NIN tribute band tonight...

http://youtu.be/2a-7lXI3A-0

[otnavuskire]

http://mikegarson.com/reznor_hurt2017.html

That is beautiful and haunting. It's imperfect, but it works.

[sheepdean]

So...guys. I saw a NIN tribute band tonight...

http://youtu.be/2a-7lXI3A-0
It didn't turn out the way you wanted it, did it

[sheepdean]

>note, given permission to post
PeedroPaula / PeedroPaula54 , a long time NIN community member has had a terminal diagnosis and there's a GoFundMe to get her over for one last NIN show, if anyone feels like some community spirit

https://www.gofundme.com/send-paula-to-nin-one-last-time

[katara]

Then there was TR calling MM a 'dopey clown'
That is an accurate statement, though.

MM is a dopey clown.

[botley]

Now, now. He's a doped clown, there is a big difference!

Kidding aside, there is still significant overlap between NIN's and MM's fanbases. They didn't need to point out that they're sharing a stage on social media, but for casual fans who might not drop big bucks on a festival just to see NIN play may want to see both for the same price. Simple marketing, not necessarily an artistic endorsement.

[bobbie solo]

So...guys. I saw a NIN tribute band tonight...

http://youtu.be/2a-7lXI3A-0

Their look aside, this could have gone way, way worse. They sound fine to me.

[Prettybrokenspiral]

Something I Can Never Have is my favorite song ever

...unless it's Hurt w/ David Bowie. That might be the only thing that trumps it.

How is that even possible..?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7_Te7iDojA

[sweeterthan]

>note, given permission to post
PeedroPaula / PeedroPaula54 , a long time NIN community member has had a terminal diagnosis and there's a GoFundMe to get her over for one last NIN show, if anyone feels like some community spirit

https://www.gofundme.com/send-paula-to-nin-one-last-time

You guys did it. Way to go.

[eversonpoe]

So...guys. I saw a NIN tribute band tonight...

that guitar player on the right really has a Chrissie Hynde look happening and i love it

[SM Rollinger]

So...guys. I saw a NIN tribute band tonight...

http://youtu.be/2a-7lXI3A-0
love how the singer has the the rubber gloves from the demos & remixes cover. og AF yo

[tony.parente]

love how the singer has the the rubber gloves from the demos & remixes cover. og AF yo
I've seen them 3 times, they're decent. No idea why they brought mansbob on though.

They played sanctified, sin, ruiner AND the perfect drug that night and they did them all pretty well.

I live streamed the show, I went landscape halfway through not known it didn't register for the viewers that way, but it's most of the show. The perfect drug starts at about 10 minutes in.

https://www.facebook.com/562717830/videos/10154768548672831

[butter_hole]

Not new at all, but I've never seen this pre-NIN picture before

https://twitter.com/InsaneArticles/status/871615179917864960

Really hope TR ditches the black dye and goes full ginger at some point

[Kulerage]

Really hope TR ditches the black dye and goes full ginger at some point
There's another photo of him from maybe 2008 that also has his natural hair color.

[Ryan]

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/9c/40/2c/9c402c3836ae1f1706a0a0cb1175409a.jpg

[Ryan]

Just wanted to say that i verified that it is indeed a NIN reference in case there was any doubt.

I contacted a level designer who worked on the game, just ignore the other part of his comment.. lol

http://i.imgur.com/O4NB6vF.jpg

So good until FDTS?!

[piggy]

Really hope TR ditches the black dye and goes full ginger at some point
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I look forward to seeing TR as a silver fox one day.

[streetman]

Really hope TR ditches the black dye and goes full ginger at some point

Full ginger? His hair is like dark brown.

[Prettybrokenspiral]

http://mikegarson.com/reznor_hurt2017.html

It amazes me that for the respect they have for each other and for the amount of piano in Trent's music, he hasn't asked Garson to be at least a part of his touring ensemble. Even another installment of Ghost improvisations with this man on keys would probably be nothing short of amazing..

[eversonpoe]

It amazes me that for the respect they have for each other and for the amount of piano in Trent's music, he hasn't asked Garson to be at least a part of his touring ensemble. Even another installment of Ghost improvisations with this man on keys would probably be nothing short of amazing..

the problem for trent is that he's a perfectionist and a control freak, and garson, in his "live in the moment" style might pull out a fucking ragtime piano solo in the middle of "just like you imagined" which would be...awkward.

[Art Vandelay]

I'm conflicted, I love Trent's music and I love Mike Garson's piano playing. Even if everything went sideways it would still be fucking awesome.

[kel]

that looks decent. plus, tilda swinton, so ...

[sonic_discord]

I want to hear the whole version of that Piggy choir version now. Think it's another cover by Scala & Kolacny Brothers? They have some fantastic takes on other songs on their Dream On album, including Underneath It All and Radiohead's Creep from the trailer for The Social Network.

[Papagolash]

New trailer for the HBO Documentary series The Defiant Ones


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT5FeylUWO0

That last song HAS to be Trent.

[Toadflax]

That last song HAS to be Trent.

Well, the score is by Atticus, Leopold, and Claudia, so I'd wager it's them (though I wouldn't be surprised if the other guy popped in to lend a hand).

[Reaps]

Might buy as pin art toy like the one in the only video and create a NIN logo in it because of reasons..

kinda funny when i looked for one on Amazon it recommended a Newtons cradle like the one used in the video!

[nooneimportant]

I had a dream about the 2017 tour. NIN opened with Branches/Bones in a stage that just consisted of a giant LED screen. 6 members just standing around not playing any instruments. Dear World came on and then all 6 members traded vocals as the stage was revealed to be In the Round. I woke up and was glad it wasn't real.

[streetman]

Well, the score is by Atticus, Leopold, and Claudia, so I'd wager it's them (though I wouldn't be surprised if the other guy popped in to lend a hand).

But those piano notes are signature Trent. Anyone think they may be sampling some of the new album?

[Toadflax]

But those piano notes are signature Trent. Anyone think they may be sampling some of the new album?

Yeah, I guess at this point I just feel like anything that sounds like Trent could easily be Atticus, but you're right- I did a quick listen of some Atticus-only stuff, and he never quite matches that piano sound. Resident Atticus expert @sheepdean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=350): what say you?

[Toadflax]

botley u tryna fight?

[sheepdean]

Yeah, I guess at this point I just feel like anything that sounds like Trent could easily be Atticus, but you're right- I did a quick listen of some Atticus-only stuff, and he never quite matches that piano sound. Resident Atticus expert @sheepdean (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=350): what say you?
Whilst it could be Tront, more likely to be Claude, she can do that whole piano thingy. As can Leo, but he's more on the synths and guitars

>also Leo's band Io Echo recently got signed so yay

[Toadflax]

also Leo's band Io Echo recently got signed so yay

Nice! I enjoyed them at the Wiltern in '09 when they opened for the final last NIN show of all time ever.

[cheddamash]

It could be nothing but nin.com is not loading currently for me.

[WorzelG]

It could be nothing but nin.com is not loading currently for me.
Same here, fingers crossed something is being announced

[sick among the pure]

Maybe "someone kicked the plug" again? Still down for me as well.

[Detunez]

New trailer for the HBO Documentary series The Defiant Ones


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT5FeylUWO0


NASA Saturn video set to Ghosts
https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

Is it just me or is Nin having a revival in terms of their music being used in trailers and movies. Almost as if there is a sudden interest in their music for such ends, or did people never realize that ghosts was under the CC ?

[blassster]

I wanna see live Atticus smash some equipment.

[ninjaw]

Same here, fingers crossed something is being announced

Wait a fucking minute ! is it me or TR is fucking spelling next halo again ? a letter appeared !
COMING SOON TO THE STORE: QUAKE VINYL REISSUE, ███ ███████E, PATRIOTS DAY VINYL

[fillow]

Wait a fucking minute ! is it me or TR is fucking spelling next halo again ? a letter appeared !
COMING SOON TO THE STORE: QUAKE VINYL REISSUE, ███ ███████E, PATRIOTS DAY VINYL

This letter was added, like, a week ago. Do you read the Trilogy thread?

[ninjaw]

This letter was added, like, a week ago. Do you read the Trilogy thread?

No ! thx you for the tip

[streetman]

Is it just me or is Nin having a revival in terms of their music being used in trailers and movies. Almost as if there is a sudden interest in their music for such ends, or did people never realize that ghosts was under the CC ?

A revival? When did they ever stop using NIN music in movies and trailers and tv shows? From over the last few years, I've heard NIN used in Fringe promos, Law & Order, The Hangover sequel, Cabin in the Woods, Person of Interest, that crappy Doom movie, various Cash version Hurts in that Wolverine movie and other places. You can't have a revival if it never ended.

[HWB]

A revival? When did they ever stop using NIN music in movies and trailers and tv shows? From over the last few years, I've heard NIN used in Fringe promos, Law & Order, The Hangover sequel, Cabin in the Woods, Person of Interest, that crappy Doom movie, various Cash version Hurts in that Wolverine movie and other places. You can't have a revival if it never ended.

To be frank, all those examples are at least like ten years old. And I wouldn't count Cash's version of Hurt.

Particularly Doom example is twelve years away now.

[fillow]

TDTWWA in Terminator Salvation trailer
EDIETS in Wanted
JLYI in 300 trailer
I'm pretty sure I remember The Wretched used in some trailer a year or two ago

[HWB]

I'm pretty sure I remember The Wretched used in some trailer a year or two ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rx0UmJTFX4

This?

Also, there was Eraser in the other 300 movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9jAEgGetxg

[Detunez]

I never even once noticed that. Or there are differences between European trailers and U.S. trailers in terms of music, or i simply never noticed it. thanks for the sum-ups.

[ziltoid]

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this before but the bass on the song White Mask somewhat reminds me of The New Order's song 586.
Meh I just might be going crazy from working in the sun all day in this heat.

[simonn]

Lethal Weapon finale had a song that sounded very similar to Trent and Atticuss - Still Gone

https://youtu.be/vRhDSNfh7zk?t=30

Defo sounds like a remix of that song.

[Lew]

NIN was mentioned by JackSepticeye (one of the more popular YouTube gamers, 15m subs) today (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6fxNeyNdbQ). Not exactly sure what the game he's playing is about, but some character had a pixelated cover of Year Zero for an avatar and Survivalism is mentioned briefly.

http://i.imgur.com/oMDSgBc.jpg

that is rad. i am going through my second kid who loves jacksepticeye :) i always thought the guy was great but now it is solidified *and* i can bug the first kid about the nin connection. sweet.

[frankie teardrop]

TR & Flood's "Screaming Bird" remix of the song "Missing Link" by Curve is included on their upcoming deluxe reissue (http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/curve-doppelganger-cuckoo-reissues/) of Cuckoo.

Here's a reminder of what that sounded like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WYFu4a9GCg

i wish i liked that mix as much as i love the original...

[xolotl]

TR & Flood's "Screaming Bird" remix of the song "Missing Link" by Curve is included on their upcoming deluxe reissue (http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/curve-doppelganger-cuckoo-reissues/) of Cuckoo.

Here's a reminder of what that sounded like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WYFu4a9GCg

Awesome, I don't think I'd actually heard that before - thanks!

[Shadaloo]

Sometimes I go over a mental list of almost every single artist I grew up loving and I look at where they are today, and I am thankful as fuck that TR is alive, doing well, and continuing to make music - doesn't even matter whether I like it or not (which I do). Just something I'm very, very grateful for.

[GentlemanLoser]

I see that this was briefly discussed in her own thread on here that died last year, but that would have been missed by most.

This rips off elements from Somewhat Damaged in very obvious ways. Her song Viciousness rips off elements of Discipline as well.

...Slow news cycle.

https://youtu.be/d9Yv-Iruw_E

Wow, these Kanga tracks even worse than Halo In Reverse songs...

[Bachy]

I'm doubtful it will be played live during the upcoming shows, but I'd still love to see "Before the Flood." I just can't decide which instrument I'd prefer to see Trent playing on the track.

However, in relation to the album of the same name, I do feel we'll get to see "A Minute to Breathe." It just seems like a nice closer, especially if you use the "Na-Na-Na" verse to lead into the closing of "The Day the World Went Away."

[bobbie solo]

Hadn't thought about BTF. I'd love to hear that live. Hope they maaaaybe do it.

[scorpiusdiamond]

My last post here was months ago. It's 6.30am in the UK and I've just watched the Twin Peaks video
I AM FREAKING THE FUCK OUT.
I missed NIN.

[sheepdean]

So, Mariqueen is officially a member of NIN. Headcanon confirmed

https://68.media.tumblr.com/1f9b426266394f57a802deeab546a983/tumblr_os5kb9UKpd1sv9lmgo1_540.png

[eversonpoe]

So, Mariqueen is officially a member of NIN. Headcanon confirmed

https://68.media.tumblr.com/1f9b426266394f57a802deeab546a983/tumblr_os5kb9UKpd1sv9lmgo1_540.png

well, for that performance, yeah. but so is joey, for that performance. and we know he's not touring with them. i hope mariqueen will, though :D

[Toadflax]

So, Mariqueen is officially a member of NIN. Headcanon confirmed

https://68.media.tumblr.com/1f9b426266394f57a802deeab546a983/tumblr_os5kb9UKpd1sv9lmgo1_540.png

No, she's a member of TNIN, which is a fictional band in the Twin Peaks universe. Duh.

[Toadflax]

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s292/brianbitner/800px-Nine_Inch_Nails_logo.jpg

[sweeterthan]

well, for that performance, yeah. but so is joey, for that performance. and we know he's not touring with them. i hope mariqueen will, though :D

I hope they play this song and she comes out every night. [emoji7]


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[HWB]

brb rewritting all albums in Google Play to be done by The Nine Inch Nails

[Toadflax]

brb rewritting all albums in Google Play to be done by The Nine Inch Nails

I hope they play The The Frail / The The Wretched off The The Fragile when I see them next month.

It would also be cool if some other Nothing Records bands ended up on Twin Peaks. The Prick, The Pig, or maybe The The The.

Thank you, I'll be here all night.

[thevoid99]

a TNIN tour designed by David Lynch would be awesome yet I think fans should be given a discount for wearing the appropriate attire which is black and leather.

[sweeterthan]

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s292/brianbitner/800px-Nine_Inch_Nails_logo.jpg

I shared this on the hotline twitter.

[butter_hole]

Full ginger? His hair is like dark brown.
its like pennywise red if he goes even a single fortnight without dying it black

[polski]

While this is pretty shitty for an artist to do, it should probably be pointed out that Trent took 'inspiration' from Resident Evil's 'Plant 42' boss fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY9Ea5X4gD4

I'm not hearing it.

[katara]

You guys are either pulling my leg, completely deaf, or in denial.

[polski]

I mean, you could always maybe explain why you think that's the case. Because to me that sounds like a fairly generic VGM tune from the PSX era, and nothing about it sticks out as something that would have directly influenced TR.

[polski]

The RE music sounds like MIDI with some SNES-level cheapo samples over it. It sounds like it might as well be from a haunted castle level in a Mario game. I'm not really hearing anything structurally (other than it's "scary" sounding) that would have influenced NIN, much less imply it's some sort of ripoff on a KANGA level. That's just a reach.

Unless you have some sort of quote one way or the other establishing otherwise.

[katara]

I mean, you could always maybe explain why you think that's the case. Because to me that sounds like a fairly generic VGM tune from the PSX era, and nothing about it sticks out as something that would have directly influenced TR.
The main riff is almost identical to Somewhat Damaged.

[GentlemanLoser]

I think he may have mixed up the DualShock Director's Cut replacement score. Read my post above with the actual original score that is beloved and has some NIN elements.

Actually, I think he was making a joke.

[polski]

The main riff is almost identical to Somewhat Damaged.

Are you talking about either of those Resident Evil songs? Because that's what I'm talking about.

On top of not hearing that at all, the opening riff of Somewhat Damaged is just four notes over and over again. EEEG I think?

I'm not insulting TR here, he loves to do intricate and interesting things with deceptively simple parts working almost polyrhythymically.

[GentlemanLoser]

The main riff is almost identical to Somewhat Damaged.

Insofar that it has a repeating series of four ascending notes? Because that's not really the same as being "almost identical"

[HWB]

That's the shitty DualShock Director's Cut score...


yes, it was a joke.

[Pyract]

The Director's Cut score actually has a story:
http://kotaku.com/resident-evil-composer-admits-to-being-a-fraud-1516435701

[neorev]

The Director's Cut score actually has a story:
http://kotaku.com/resident-evil-composer-admits-to-being-a-fraud-1516435701

Imagine hiring someone else and they deliver that shite DualShock score to you and you having to take credit for it. Now it makes sense why that specific score was so trash lol.

Makoto Tomozawa, Koichi Hiroki, & Masami Ueda's original score is so much more haunting. It really is what helped made the game as great as it is.

[HurtinMinorKey]

The main riff is almost identical to Somewhat Damaged.

I wouldn't call it identical, but seriously, how do people not hear the obvious similarity? This is the first time I have heard this BTW, so thanks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY9Ea5X4gD4

edit: included the right version for reference because there are a few floating around in the thread that are just wrong.

[Jon]

On top of not hearing that at all, the opening riff of Somewhat Damaged is just four notes over and over again. EEEG I think?

Really not the place, but it's a progression: D > D# > E > F

[Kulerage]

I was watching an episode of Full House (season 8 - 1994/95) tonight and these teenage dudes asked Stephanie Tanner and her friend Gia if they were "the two girls that jumped on stage at the Nine Inch Nails concert."
I think the ninwiki actually mentions that

[Toadflax]

I was watching an episode of Full House (season 8 - 1994/95) tonight and these teenage dudes asked Stephanie Tanner and her friend Gia if they were "the two girls that jumped on stage at the Nine Inch Nails concert."

I remember seeing that on TV in the 90's! I think Six mentioned NIN on Blossom once, too.

[Kulerage]

https://www.instagram.com/p/BV5S7j4gKx5/
He's got a really nice set-up. My two percussionist friends would love that.

[eversonpoe]

there's a NIN Collecting And Trading group on facebook that a few of us ETSers are in, and there are so many IDIOTS in there. a guy just posted his "favorite concert shirt" that he was "thinking about framing and hanging on the living room wall" and it's a TERRIBLE bootleg from 2013 that uses the band photo from the 2009 lineup on the cover. the printing was SO fucked up and it was just hideous. a bunch of people pointed out that it was a bootleg and he deleted his post. then there's all the people asking for copies of deviations from people who ordered extras...even though they're still readily available from nin.com... so are people just really dumb, really lazy, or somehow both?

[hologram parade]

^theyre just dumb

people are are trying to sell deviations for $150 on Discogs. I pointed out it's still $80 through store.nin and kindly told the guy to fuck off!

[tony.parente]

there's a NIN Collecting And Trading group on facebook that a few of us ETSers are in, and there are so many IDIOTS in there. a guy just posted his "favorite concert shirt" that he was "thinking about framing and hanging on the living room wall" and it's a TERRIBLE bootleg from 2013 that uses the band photo from the 2009 lineup on the cover. the printing was SO fucked up and it was just hideous. a bunch of people pointed out that it was a bootleg and he deleted his post. then there's all the people asking for copies of deviations from people who ordered extras...even though they're still readily available from nin.com... so are people just really dumb, really lazy, or somehow both?

LOL I saw that, do you think that they just don't know?

[eversonpoe]

LOL I saw that, do you think that they just don't know?

i think if you're in a group dedicated to the collecting and trading of items released by a particular band, you should be able to do the minimal amount of research to figure out how to get something. i'm not an elitist and i'm not trying to be a jerk, these people are just so frustrating.

[Kulerage]

You know, it terms of WHAT the songs are, The Slip kind of reminds me of Bowie's "Low" and ""Heroes"". For instance, the first half of all three albums are songs that are more conventional than the second half, which is more ambient and less "typical". Another parallel is that both TS and Low were made right after both artists had just come out of a experimental phase (Ghosts I-IV and Station to Station (which had Krautrock influences)).

[polski]

LOW was the experimental phase.

[Jg23666]

I don't know whether this has been mentioned before, but "Fuckin' Up the Count" by Freddie Gibbs samples "Right Where It Belongs", specifically the back left channel of the 5.1 mix.

Here's "Fuckin' Up the Count": https://youtu.be/23O2U41p6cY?t=21

And here (at least for the next 24 hours) is the relevant portion from the isolated back left channel of RWITB: https://clyp.it/lywqsc5j

[Kulerage]

LOW was the experimental phase.
Rereading my post, I did kind of phrase it awkwardly. But, I still think I got most of what I was saying doing pretty well

[Jon]

Too slow, cocktease. Looks like that delivery date just became next Wednesday.

http://i65.tinypic.com/119sdpg.png

[katara]

Note: I would have posted this in the Deviations thread but that thing has devolved into something between an argumentative shitstorm and a penis-measuring contest of whose package is damaged the most. So.

Just now finished listening to Deviations 1 for the first time. This is also the first time I've heard any material from The Fragile in over 10 years (aside from songs played live in front of me). Here are some brief thoughts:

Removing the lyrics makes several songs more interesting, while others are undermined by their simplicity. Loops become more obvious, resulting in tedium in the most extreme examples.

It seems like many tracks are mislabelled. Some are alternate takes and labelled as "(instrumental)" while others are virtually identical to the album version and are called "(alternate version)". Complication comes to mind as something that sounds exactly the same to me (albeit with a slightly extended outro) but it's apparently "alternate".

Probably controversial: I feel this release does not warrant a new halo number. The unreleased material is great but the majority of what's on offer here is essentially the album minus vocals. I was under the impression that TRAR had actually gone into the songs, revisiting them and tweaking them to form a new album. Nope. This is basically just The Fragile sans vocals with some bonus content. Mind you, what's on offer here is excellent, but then, the original release was excellent, so... anyway, imo this should have been halo 14 (deviations 1) or something. They did something similar for The Downward Spiral remaster, so why not here? I'm sure I'm completely wrong here and Tront knows best. ♥

Ripe With Decay + drums is funky as shit.

One Way To Get There is eh.

I almost wish TR had never given Saul Williams a bunch of TF outtakes to use on Niggy Tardust. Skin of a Drum is great but I'd personally prefer it if The March was its own thing. I can't listen to it without Saul's voice floating over the top. Who knows what the heck happened to the other tracks.

Why is Feeders not before No, You Don't? Weird placement, but maybe it would have made the album lop-sided. Interesting to realise that that short intro was a snippet of a full song all along, and no one had any idea.

Seems that TRAR forgot to remove the faded-in lyrics from Underneath It All. Bizarre.

Listening to the original version of 10 Miles High is surreal.

I still can't hear The Big Come Down in any format without feeling like it's about the fear of taking a dump (thanks, internet person, for etching that image into my head forever).

There's a NIN logo on page 22 (+28) of the pdf that's the wrong aspect ratio, and it's really fucking annoying. It's like a bad bootleg. Also, that blobby 'F' is rubbish, both conceptually and visually (sorry, DC).

Speaking of artwork, is Deviations 1 sponsored by Leffe? I spy a little logo that may or may not be a blunder.

Not What It Seems Like and Was It Worth It? are really cool. Why were these not on the original album?

Hearing a few of the Lost Fragile tracks is a dream come true. But there's a problem. They have no vocals. Hearing D1 just makes my loins burn harder for the full versions of these songs.

[GentlemanLoser]

It seems like many tracks are mislabelled. Some are alternate takes and labelled as "(instrumental)" while others are virtually identical to the album version and are called "(alternate version)". Complication comes to mind as something that sounds exactly the same to me (albeit with a slightly extended outro) but it's apparently "alternate".

What tracks were alternate takes but labeled '(instrumental)'? I'm curious as I must have missed them when I listened.

Also, I think that slightly extended outro is what makes it an '(alternative version)', some of the alt takes have broad stroke differences, others are tiny I guess.

[katara]

What tracks were alternate takes but labeled '(instrumental)'? I'm curious as I must have missed them when I listened.

Also, I think that slightly extended outro is what makes it an '(alternative version)', some of the alt takes have broad stroke differences, others are tiny I guess.
I won't list them all. However, Ripe With Decay is one of the more obvious ones. The drum completely changes the feel of the song.

I'd go as far as to say that Somewhat Damaged is more worthy of being called an "alternate version" than Complication, seeing as there's a whole synth section at the end which aren't present in the original. Complication just copy/pastes a few extra bars at the end.

JLYA is just missing a bit of static, otherwise it's identical to the original instrumental. Not really an alternate take.

Pilgrimage lives up to its parentheses. Practically the entire song is different. But 10 Miles High should have been an alt version too.

[GentlemanLoser]

I won't list them all. However, Ripe With Decay is one of the more obvious ones. The drum completely changes the feel of the song.

Oh shit, I totally missed that it wasn't labeled as an alt take. It totally is, and the drum totally does. Frankly, it's one of the more extreme alt takes. Also didn't notice that Somewhat Damaged wasn't listed as an alt take, it also was one of the bigger changes.

I really wasn't paying attention I guess. The labeling of 'alt' verses 'instrumental' is, in fact, completely jacked up.

[HWB]

I'd go as far as to say that Somewhat Damaged is more worthy of being called an "alternate version" than Complication, seeing as there's a whole synth section at the end which aren't present in the original.


This is nothing new, Somewhat Damaged instrumentally was avaible like this ever since Itunes made The Fragile instrumentally for free

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1o6MszdZlk

Just look at the date of the video, a lot of stuff from deviations isn't all that different from "The Fragile Instrumentals", The Fragile instrumental tracks I believe have better quality in deviations, I've yet to find a deeper difference though.

[Deacon Blackfire]

One Way To Get There is eh.

That's actually one of my favorite new tracks on Deviations. It's like a soundtrack for the best Syphon Filter level never made.

[katara]

This is nothing new, Somewhat Damaged instrumentally was avaible like this ever since Itunes made The Fragile instrumentally for free

Just look at the date of the video, a lot of stuff from deviations isn't all that different from "The Fragile Instrumentals", The Fragile instrumental tracks I believe have better quality in deviations, I've yet to find a deeper difference though.
Uh... you *do* realise that Deviations 1 is just a slightly more souped-up version of the Apple instrumentals? Not sure why you're calling me out; this is practically common knowledge.

According to ninwiki (http://www.nin.wiki/The_Fragile:_Deviations_1), Deviations is much more polished. Also, Deviations is lossless whereas the Apple edition was only available as a fairly low quality mp3 (that we had to essentially steal).


I really wasn't paying attention I guess. The labeling of 'alt' verses 'instrumental' is, in fact, completely jacked up.
Tbh, it doesn't really matter too much. It just bothers me personally that it's so inconsistent.

[HWB]

Didn't want to call you out and I am aware of the ninwiki and the mp3 quality of the originals, I just felt like ponting it out to someone who may not know, not here to start any fights, I am here just to state stuff 90% of people here alreadly know.

[implanted_microchip]

Just look at the date of the video, a lot of stuff from deviations isn't all that different from "The Fragile Instrumentals", The Fragile instrumental tracks I believe have better quality in deviations, I've yet to find a deeper difference though.

TDTWWA's instrumental on Apple was the Quiet version while Deviations is an instrumental of the studio cut, which is a pretty massive difference.

[katara]

Howard Stern loves Trent...

https://www.alternativenation.net/howard-stern-reveals-why-he-preferred-creepy-trent-reznor/
This is a simple case of 'don't meet your idols'. Whatever mystique they had will be lost when you find out they're just ordinary people.

Trent is still an artist who expresses himself. Since he's retreated from social media, and especially since this new NTAE era began, I feel like he's reclaimed some of that mystique. One might say that he's made a few mistakes recently, but hey, he's only human.

[tony.parente]

I've spent so much time this past week being pissed at Trent for ripping us off on that deviations release that I forgot the dude made music.

NIN is pretty good guys.

[bobbie solo]

Howard Stern loves Trent...

https://www.alternativenation.net/howard-stern-reveals-why-he-preferred-creepy-trent-reznor/

Howard Stern knows nothing about music, part. if it was made after 1975. Any time he would talk about music i wanted to reach through the radio & strangle him. I can't fucking stand the guy anymore, but I was a fan for a long time. His opinions about music, especially modern music, are cringeworthy.

[Hyperpower]

so...my brother and i were discussing the upcoming shows and randomly Supernaut comes on (was listening to music in the car) and my brother asked "what would happen if suddenly at one of these festival shows they start playing Supernaut?" now, that probably is not happening (i don't wanna say ever) for various reasons but one would think definitely not at a festival, right?

[bobbie solo]

so...my brother and i were discussing the upcoming shows and randomly Supernaut comes on (was listening to music in the car) and my brother asked "what would happen if suddenly at one of these festival shows they start playing Supernaut?" now, that probably is not happening (i don't wanna say ever) for various reasons but one would think definitely not at a festival, right?

A) There's no way this will happen.
B) If it were to somehow defy all logic and actually happen, it would be in Chicago for Riot Fest as Ministry is playing the same day. Still, there's no way Trent, Al & co. are gonna reunite, and rehearse enough to make this work.
C) I would come out of mosh retirement again and destroy everyone in my path.

[sheepdean]

Trent failed to release pre order for Quake on Quake's 21st anniversary

[Ryan]

I've spent so much time this past week being pissed at Trent for ripping us off on that deviations release that I forgot the dude made music.

NIN is pretty good guys.

When I type ryan to login, hitting the 4 buttons on my phone sounds like the opening to Somewhat Damaged.

[Krazy]

Trent failed to release pre order for Quake on Quake's 21st anniversary

Its OK, Quake was so drunk during its 21st b-day it already forgot about Trent forgetting. All is forgiven when Quake pukes it's brains out.

[tony.parente]

If the song Everything was a physical object it would be the deviations packaging.

[HWB]

If the song Everything was a physical object it would be the deviations packaging.

Everything was great and clever though.

[Helpmeiaminhell (is now in hell)]

A) There's no way this will happen.
B) If it were to somehow defy all logic and actually happen, it would be in Chicago for Riot Fest as Ministry is playing the same day. Still, there's no way Trent, Al & co. are gonna reunite, and rehearse enough to make this work.
C) I would come out of mosh retirement again and destroy everyone in my path.

Would prefer it if Trent does not step on the same stage with Al....Al seems to be the epitome of washed up has been. 60 years old still running around with 9 million piercings playing the same lame post 2004 era death metal Ministry songs..The industrial psycho genius of 1986-1992 Jourgensen is long gone

[jmtd]

I'm just feeling for all the fans who are pissed off with the delays and quality of the delivery/packaging for Deviations 1. I'm still in a weird place, coming to terms with having cancelled my order. Not schadenfreude exactly, but all these problems are helping me to feel I made the right decision for me. I also feel for Trent. I get the feeling he wants to keep that stuff, to some extent, at arm's length: trust the people who's jobs it is to get the stuff put together at the right quality and handle deliveries and leave him to do the music, but he keeps getting let down too. Which must be very frustrating indeed.

[Hyperpower]

I also feel for Trent. I get the feeling he wants to keep that stuff, to some extent, at arm's length: trust the people who's jobs it is to get the stuff put together at the right quality and handle deliveries and leave him to do the music, but he keeps getting let down too. Which must be very frustrating indeed.

at first when when The Slip was released and then the other releases he ended up doing on his own, sounded/was exciting because first and foremost, he was getting the share of the profits from his music that he deserves but (theres always a but right? :( ) with releasing something on your own it comes with its own set of problems.
i dunno if TR is weighing the idea of releasing music on his own in the future vs going with a label because despite all the problems his fanbase is going through right now, he is still getting value for his music this way. and he probably feels bad about how NTAE's release has/is going on, still tho... some things are out of his hands regardless of how hands on he gets with all his releases.

has TR ever talked about being on a label for Hesitation Marks? i mean in terms of release, not having to worry about that end of things as opposed to how NTAE's release has gone on? i'd like to know his thoughts on these two releases from that end.

[Krazy]

Would prefer it if Trent does not step on the same stage with Al....Al seems to be the epitome of washed up has been. 60 years old still running around with 9 million piercings playing the same lame post 2004 era death metal Ministry songs..The industrial psycho genius of 1986-1992 Jourgensen is long gone

I dunno, saw Ministry for the first time a couple years ago and all things considered thought they put in a great show- including Al. Played many of the hits and liked it since it was the first time I experienced it I get what you're saying though, don't think it would be all that great to see Supernaut at this point in both careers. Now if you wanna see a live train wreck and wanting your money back look no further than Manson. That would be an oddity to see them on stage together.


RANDOM THOUGHT: why does Hesitation Marks have the "explicit" tag on it? I can't think of any overly suggestive lyrics or swear words at the moment.

[sheepdean]

RANDOM THOUGHT: why does Hesitation Marks have the "explicit" tag on it? I can't think of any overly suggestive lyrics or swear words at the moment.
Ghosts has one on iTunes :P

Also All Time Low has fuck in it

[GentlemanLoser]

RANDOM THOUGHT: why does Hesitation Marks have the "explicit" tag on it? I can't think of any overly suggestive lyrics or swear words at the moment.

The album title itself is a suicide reference, so that probably played into it. All Time Low does the whole sex=drugs kind of lyrics. I seem to think there is a 'fuck' or two in there somewhere too. All that together could warrant an explicit tag. I don't think it really takes too much to get an explicit tag on an album these days.

[Krazy]

I still hear "Shit... brushes skin". But those aren't the lyrics.

They should be.