Random NIN Thoughts

[blassster]

Man, I hope he's not dropping a hint at a collaboration or joint tour or something of that nature. I mean I guess I wouldn't mind too much if TR helped MM with a few tracks on the new Manson album, but other than that let the past stay in the past.
I'd welcome another TR-produced MM album, but at the same time I partially agree.

[henryeatscereal]

maybe TR is helping him "find" the "Antichrist Superstar" masters?

[sick among the pure]

Maybe Trent it just happy with the work he produced with MM back in the day and is proud of how that album turned out. It honestly may not be more than that.
As cool as it would be to see Trent have any more connection with Manson, Manson's latest few albums have sucked, and he is terrible live now. I loved Manson's early stuff, and would have loved to see the two of them working together in the past, but unless Manson is suddenly sober too (the drugs and alcohol did not treat him well at all) I wouldn't be excited to see them working together on much of anything anymore.

[thefragile_jake]

Maybe Trent it just happy with the work he produced with MM back in the day and is proud of how that album turned out. It honestly may not be more than that.
As cool as it would be to see Trent have any more connection with Manson, Manson's latest few albums have sucked, and he is terrible live now. I loved Manson's early stuff, and would have loved to see the two of them working together in the past, but unless Manson is suddenly sober too (the drugs and alcohol did not treat him well at all) I wouldn't be excited to see them working together on much of anything anymore.

This. There's really no reason to connect again with Manson at this point anymore.

[billpulsipher]

Fuck Manson. 50 year old junkie falling off stages trying to be Jim Morrison.....ironic that Manson was partially behind Trents relapse in 2000, same way he was behind Johnny Depps relapse last year..Mansons like the dr feelgood for wayward celebrities

[BRoswell]

maybe TR is helping him "find" the "Antichrist Superstar" masters?

That's what I was thinking. Maybe they're going to do some sort of re-release.

[WorzelG]

Fuck Manson. 50 year old junkie falling off stages trying to be Jim Morrison.....ironic that Manson was partially behind Trents relapse in 2000, same way he was behind Johnny Depps relapse last year..Mansons like the dr feelgood for wayward celebritiesi never even liked Manson in his heyday, but to say he's behind Trent's relapse is a bit off. Everyone is responsible for themselves. This is like that annoying guy from the manson forums that kept saying trent was responsible for Al Jourgenson relapsing

[billpulsipher]

i never even liked Manson in his heyday, but to say he's behind Trent's relapse is a bit off. Everyone is responsible for themselves. This is like that annoying guy from the manson forums that kept saying trent was responsible for Al Jourgenson relapsing

thats why I said he was "partially" behind Trents relapse..The Rez made his own decisions but it is kind of ironic that when certain actors/musicians fall back into the drug scene, Manson is somehow involved

[fillow]

Don't tell me Manson's a friend with Alien Jourgensen too...

[Krazy]

Thought generated from a non-NIN related post:

Would like to hear an orchestra arrange/cover Just Like You Imagened.

[eversonpoe]

Thought generated from a non-NIN related post:

Would like to hear an orchestra arrange/cover Just Like You Imagened.

yeah, i mean there was that vitamin string tribute or whatever but i can't remember if they did that song...or if any of that album was any good

[BRoswell]

yeah, i mean there was that vitamin string tribute or whatever but i can't remember if they did that song...or if any of that album was any good

They did. Obviously it's just a string quartet and not a full orchestra, but it's still a nice cover. (This version on YouTube sounds terrible for some reason, but it's the only upload I could find.)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_4w2MQUwSU

[Krazy]

Definitely missing something... needs moar cowbell.

[tony.parente]

http://teamrock.com/feature/2016-10-10/every-nine-inch-nails-album-ranked-from-worst-to-best

every NIN album ranked...surprise surprise Ghosts comes in last place

That list is inherently flawed because broken isn't in it and hesitation marks didn't come in last.

[thefragile_jake]

That list is inherently flawed because.....hesitation marks didn't come in last.

*Year Zero
;) <3
luv u tony

[tony.parente]

*Year Zero
;) <3
luv u tony

Naw man the list goes like this:

the fragile
with teeth
broken
downward spiral
year zero
the slip
pretty hate machine
ghosts
my dogs butthole
hesitation marks

[BRoswell]

Any list that doesn't have Pretty Hate Machine last is wrong. :p

[billpulsipher]

Fragile
Downward Spiral
Broken
Pretty Hate Machine
Year Zero
Witha Teetha
Slip
Hesitation marks

[SarahConnor]

cringe like a cringe, this shit is the worst, I'd rather die, than go to that show.

[Ribbitman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJ-w0TAE-mQ


that scream at 3:40


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8zgqfTCNuk

I LOVE the part at 3:23

[Krazy]

I'd love to see the name list of who the "members of" are on that soundcheck live thing. Should be a good laugh.

[bobbie solo]

There is some kind of NIN tribute night "Celebrating the music of Nine Inch Nails" in LA tonight.

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14650299_890414787726465_7124311026229690349_n.jpg ?oh=5188674306f4dc766822d68d9d14c771&oe=58A4F3DA

No. plus 7 more characters.

[katara]

That list is inherently flawed because broken isn't in it and hesitation marks didn't come in last.
Hesitation Marks isn't that bad, though. The only parts of the album I skip every time are Running and the last 15 minutes of Disappointed.

[Detunez]

Music is so subjective to most people in terms of ratings. And my random NiN thought at the moment was: Satelite, i'm watching you.

[thefragile_jake]

Hesitation Marks isn't that bad, though. The only parts of the album I skip every time are Running and the last 15 minutes of Disappointed.

Yeah, I still think Hesitation Marks is fine. I only skip Satellite, but it's saved by the last two minutes.

[Kulerage]

I've noticed that no one seems to talk about Still. It's pretty good for something that was a second disc for a live album.

[implanted_microchip]

I'd love to see the name list of who the "members of" are on that soundcheck live thing. Should be a good laugh.
Well, bare minimum Fred Sablan was there, and he's pretty cool.

[sentient]

I continue to hope that Trent, Richard P. and Chris V will all get together sometime in the future and have a few beers maybe strum a few tunes and watch the bonfire burn down as their grandkids fall asleep in their laps.

[sick among the pure]

Trent, Richard P. and Chris V will all get together sometime in the future and have a few beers
Probably not going to happen.

[billpulsipher]

Richard and Trent are alcoholics (recovered)..so yea getting beers together would lead to a relapse

[Swykk]

The Downward Spiral
(best: Ruiner, worst: BMWAG)
The Fragile
(best left: The Wretched, worst left: Pilgrimage) (best right: TBCD, worst NIN song of all time: ILFTJYF)
Year Zero
(best: ITT, worst: TGG)
Broken
(best: Gave Up, worst: Physical)
With Teeth
(best: TLBTB, worst: ATLITW)
Hesitation Marks
(best: In Two, worst: Running)
The Slip
(best: Head Down, worst: LITS)
Pretty Hate Machine
(best: Terrible Lie, worst: TWIG)

Seems like my opinions are angering some of you. Relax. Nobody is forcing you to agree.

[SarahConnor]

If you can't tell the photoshop'd pics here from real, I ..don't know. No way that pink hat is real. And Bono is clearly green-screened

[pcpunk]

worst NIN song of all time: ILFTJYF)

I'm in Indianapolis. let's arrange a meet so we can fight this out.

[buckaroo]

The Slip
(best: Head Down, worst: LITS)
Pretty Hate Machine
(best: Terrible Lie, worst: TWIG)

I know this all opinion, but LITS is the worst? You think Corona Radiata is a better song? I'll admit The Slip isn't my favorite album, but LITS is a high point in my opinion. Also, this probably belongs in the controversial opinions thread, but TWIG is actually one of my favorite nin songs.

[SM Rollinger]

LITS is garbage, and I agree with Head Down being the best.

Although, TL the best on PHM? No way.

[katara]

I've noticed that no one seems to talk about Still. It's pretty good for something that was a second disc for a live album.
I'd say that almost the entire NIN community has a massive raging hard-on for that album. People have been clamouring for a stripped-down, unplugged Still-esque tour for years.

[Bachy]

Just some
Flesh caught
In this big
Broken machine

[piggy]

And Bono is clearly green-screened
Nope.
http://www.wireimage.com/celebrity-pictures/Trent-Reznor-and-Bono-of-U2-during-U2-Post-GRAMMY-Party-February-13/109588465

[wizfan]

How come I just find out that one of my favorite singers, Toni Halliday, is married to Alan Moulder? Now I get why she is thanked in the Hesitation Marks liner notes.

[niggo]

Now, I’d be culturally remiss if I didn’t ask you when we can expect a new Nine Inch Nails album. Will it be sometime this year?

[Laughs] I am working on music right now. That’s all I can say!

Weeeeeell, then that's a far stretch. Alright.

[Ryan]

LITS is garbage, and I agree with Head Down being the best.

Although, TL the best on PHM? No way.

What the fuck is "garbage" about the song Lights In The Sky? It's gorgeous.

[niggo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EatVznhmrxc

This is by far the best version of Starfuckers I've ever heard. Man, they're going insane. The recording on AATCHB (the one I'm used to) really can't hold up to that.

Damn!

[Krazy]

Nope.
http://www.wireimage.com/celebrity-pictures/Trent-Reznor-and-Bono-of-U2-during-U2-Post-GRAMMY-Party-February-13/109588465


2005???? Trent looks younger and skinnier, always thought that was a Fragile era pic.

[sweeterthan]

The daily beast interview is so good and he sounds so smart and passionate but still no definitive nin information is so goddamn frustrating. Fucking Reznor!


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[blassster]

From the NIN tribute the other night in LA. Fred Sablan just shared on twitter. There are more video in their channel.


https://youtu.be/l2kGZIRZaJU

[SM Rollinger]

What the fuck is "garbage" about the song Lights In The Sky? It's gorgeous.
Its boring and un-inspired.

[SarahConnor]

Can anyone link some more footage from Reading '05? Best rock incarnation of the band? I'm catching up with that decade's workhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-xWoo4q5_8&list=RDlhmeWR4-xxk&index=2

[Substance242]

Interesting article, "dumbing-down and anti-intellectualism", "death of journalism through clickbait" - reminds me also of the short "where's the revolution" Depeche Mode snippet. Hesitation Marks was personal, feels like this time NIN will be something like Year Zero again, maybe it's "in the air", a general atmosphere picked up by the ones who listen/care... or something like that. :-)

[sick among the pure]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EatVznhmrxc

This is by far the best version of Starfuckers I've ever heard. Man, they're going insane. The recording on AATCHB (the one I'm used to) really can't hold up to that.

Damn!

Is this the version where the drumming is like double time? I remember everyone making jokes about Josh Freese until that performance.

[TheBang]

Well, after watching this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8OA-qlvSS0

I think the Tension live line-up could've taken this song on and done it justice. Maybe not the right song for an arena setting, but still.

[TheBang]

Can anyone link some more footage from Reading '05? Best rock incarnation of the band? I'm catching up with that decade's workhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-xWoo4q5_8&list=RDlhmeWR4-xxk&index=2
It's Reading 07, not 05. Only 6 songs (30 minutes) were broadcast from that performance. You can view them in a playlist here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhmeWR4-xxk&list=PLcyrt_5jlhzCMdqVRnP4-HkJkh31zXAMj

[billpulsipher]

I miss the Trent from the mid 90s who said he hated politics and didnt want to end up like Bono, just preaching politics in interview after interview and song after song...

[rampface]

Looking for a live video from the Pretty Hate Machine era that was posted recently (maybe a couple of months ago?).


or the best quality of any PHM era full show on YouTube. Thanks guys!

[BRoswell]

Looking for a live video from the Pretty Hate Machine era that was posted recently (maybe a couple of months ago?).


or the best quality of any PHM era full show on YouTube. Thanks guys!

Are you referring to this?

http://ninlive.com/shows/1991/19910122.html

[rampface]

I think this is it! Looking for any YouTube links from this era to watch on my smart tv lol

[Dr Channard]

I miss the Trent from the mid 90s who said he hated politics and didnt want to end up …just preaching politics in …song after song...


In that case you may be more inclined to appreciate his most recent nin album entitled Hesitation Marks, which has little to do with preaching politics but instead draws thematic inspiration from Trent’s self reflecting on the person he was in the 90’s. Yeah, you’d probably dig that one. Or maybe his prior nin album The Slip, with its more raw unrefined approach, which also isn’t known to be a Trent musical manifesto album. Or how about Trent’s nin album just before that, Ghosts, probably safe to say this album is un-politically-preachy in 100% of its tracks.

[Khrz]

Ah, see, Reznor still has things to say!

[Mutilated]

Yeah, so he's still working on it. That means no album this year.

[Swykk]

Most days, I think pulsipher is Rob Sheridan in disguise fucking with us.

[witte]

i'm afraid that ánd working on 'before the flood' ánd working on 'patriots day' ánd working on a new nin album will be an influence on the quality of the last one.
you saw that with hm too (it was made during 'gone girl', 'htda' project).
too much in a short period....

[niggo]

you saw that with hm too (it was made during 'gone girl', 'htda' project).

It wasn't. They scored Gone Girl backstage / in between tour legs in 2014. And they released HTDA just pretty late, I doubt he was working on both albums simultaneously. People can say about HM what they want, but I woud never call it "rushed".

[Callahan]

Someone at PLEX is a fan of NIN, check out the screenshots.

https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/plex/id383457673?mt=8

[wizfan]

Someone at PLEX is a fan of NIN, check out the screenshots.

https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/plex/id383457673?mt=8

I only see The Martian and Star Trek Into Darkness.

[blassster]

i'm afraid that ánd working on 'before the flood' ánd working on 'patriots day' ánd working on a new nin album will be an influence on the quality of the last one.
you saw that with hm too (it was made during 'gone girl', 'htda' project).
too much in a short period....
HTDA LP seemed to be finished during or before early spring 2012 (look up something like "Trent Reznor Mulholland drive test" for mentions of that tweet.

HM was first teased as being finished around May 2013, and he's said that there was about a year of focused work on it; more work put into one thing than he's done in a while.

GG soundtrack announced January 2014 released in late that year, and see above post.

The timelines don't really match up.

[Callahan]

I only see The Martian and Star Trek Into Darkness.

Ah, weird, maybe it depends on the country you're viewing from? This is what I get.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161016/66ec7a0ed03b0def52d20a98c242a679.png

[Arcspiral]

What does the text below The Fragile say? Can anyone make that out?

[Merriweather]

What does the text below The Fragile say? Can anyone make that out?

Two cd set, halo fourteen

[nooneimportant]

In that case you may be more inclined to appreciate his most recent nin album entitled Hesitation Marks, which has little to do with preaching politics but instead draws thematic inspiration from Trent’s self reflecting on the person he was in the 90’s. Yeah, you’d probably dig that one. Or maybe his prior nin album The Slip, with its more raw unrefined approach, which also isn’t known to be a Trent musical manifesto album. Or how about Trent’s nin album just before that, Ghosts, probably safe to say this album is un-politically-preachy in 100% of its tracks.

I always thought Ghosts was about Abraham Lincoln.

[sick among the pure]

I only see The Martian and Star Trek Into Darkness.

You have to scroll through the screenshots.

[nooneimportant]

I really really enjoy listening to Maybe Just Once. I will not apologize for this.

[Arcspiral]

What are the odds that this could be the artwork for an impending deluxe edition redux? I may be wrong, but I don't ever recall seeing that artwork before. Thoughts?

[witte]

HTDA LP seemed to be finished during or before early spring 2012 (look up something like "Trent Reznor Mulholland drive test" for mentions of that tweet.

HM was first teased as being finished around May 2013, and he's said that there was about a year of focused work on it; more work put into one thing than he's done in a while.

GG soundtrack announced January 2014 released in late that year, and see above post.

The timelines don't really match up.

People, please. What I remembered that he managed to do HM during the HTDA sessions and around that time he started with GG. Everybody was very surprised he had worked on NIN in between producing and touring HTDA.....

Well, what I mean to say, is, that when he's doing many projects during a period it influences the quality of his product (which is still high, because it's Trent ;) ) E.g., you can hear it: the electronic sound, the style of producing he used during HTDA you can find back in HM.

It's just a feeling and a thought.
That is something, I want to discuss.

[Ryan]

What are the odds that this could be the artwork for an impending deluxe edition redux? I may be wrong, but I don't ever recall seeing that artwork before. Thoughts?

I haven't seen that artwork either.

[wizfan]

What are the odds that this could be the artwork for an impending deluxe edition redux? I may be wrong, but I don't ever recall seeing that artwork before. Thoughts?

It is not used by any release in the NINCatalog page for The Fragile. (http://nincatalog.com/the-fragile/) So, who knows?

I want a Fragile Remaster scavenger hunt/ARG now. Quick, let's look at screenshots from every single app in the iTunes page.

[thevoid99]

OK, did I just read that Trent likes the fucking Lumineers? Someone slap the shit out of him.

[WorzelG]

OK, did I just read that Trent likes the fucking Lumineers? Someone slap the shit out of him.
I read that he stood up but didn't sing, kind of as a protest

[witte]

Hopefully he meant 'the lumerians' #awesome

[Kulerage]

I'd say that almost the entire NIN community has a massive raging hard-on for that album. People have been clamouring for a stripped-down, unplugged Still-esque tour for years.
That sounds like an amazing idea for like a finale tour

[katara]

That sounds like an amazing idea for like a finale tour
TR's done something similar unplugged live stuff before but it's been limited to one-offs. I'd say that if he's still taking NIN on the road when he's 70, it'll most likely be performed in that fashion.

[Kulerage]

What are the odds that this could be the artwork for an impending deluxe edition redux? I may be wrong, but I don't ever recall seeing that artwork before. Thoughts?
Pretty sure that's the artwork for the back cover of the Fragile

[fillow]

Pretty sure that's the artwork for the back cover of the Fragile

It sure is, but that text caption is not a part of it. That's why everyone is speculating.

[sweeterthan]

No way that's for the reissue. It's just some crappy text on the artwork.


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[buckaroo]

No way that's for the reissue. It's just some crappy text on the artwork.


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Even though that is the image used for the back cover was the full un-altered image ever released? Just wondering.

[billpulsipher]

at this point a new NIN album most likely wont even see a physical release..will just be available on apple in shitty compressed mp3 format....same goes for the imaginary Fragile reissue..doubt it will be this beautiful deluxe box set..instead it will just be upped on TRs apple account and the minions will have to pay for the beauty of listening to low quality compressed mp3 shit...daddy is a corporate man these days

[SM Rollinger]

I haven't seen that artwork either.
That artwork was used on Fragility Tour shirts.

[BRoswell]

at this point a new NIN album most likely wont even see a physical release..will just be available on apple in shitty compressed mp3 format....same goes for the imaginary Fragile reissue..doubt it will be this beautiful deluxe box set..instead it will just be upped on TRs apple account and the minions will have to pay for the beauty of listening to low quality compressed mp3 shit...daddy is a corporate man these days

Before The Flood is being released on vinyl and high quality digital audio through the NIN site. But yeah, let's pretend Trent is only going to release the next album through iTunes.

[Khrz]

daddy

Never stop being a cutie pie, bill. You're like a broody, gloomy My Little Pony, farting the darkest sparkles all around!

[BRoswell]

OK, did I just read that Trent likes the fucking Lumineers? Someone slap the shit out of him.

Well, Trent also likes KISS (or at least did once upon a time), so there's that to consider. Just because he makes some great music doesn't mean he doesn't have some questionable taste. :p

[ninjaw]

Before The Flood is being released on vinyl and high quality digital audio through the NIN site. But yeah, let's pretend Trent is only going to release the next album through iTunes.

May I add "as every major nin releases" ?

He did release HM bonus on the worst store on earth...

[witte]

at this point a new NIN album most likely wont even see a physical release..will just be available on apple in shitty compressed mp3 format....same goes for the imaginary Fragile reissue..doubt it will be this beautiful deluxe box set..instead it will just be upped on TRs apple account and the minions will have to pay for the beauty of listening to low quality compressed mp3 shit...daddy is a corporate man these days

i really love your quotes/lines. you shout put them together in a pocket book and publish it for the nin community. it'd be a success for sure. people would love to read it, only to get mad about the topics :)

[botley]

^ feed the troll


He did release HM bonus on the worst store on earth... You mean HDTracks?


Even though that is the image used for the back cover was the full un-altered image ever released? Just wondering.
I don't know about un-altered, but David Carson put a less-cropped version of the photo in his book fotografix. Here it is online (http://i.imgur.com/7vyLK.jpg).

[BRoswell]

He did release HM bonus on the worst store on earth...

And to be fair, he did include some of the remixes on the deluxe edition CD of Hesitation Marks.

[Ryan]

Even though that is the image used for the back cover was the full un-altered image ever released? Just wondering.

That's what I meant - never seen the full, unaltered image before.

[billpulsipher]

HM was on a major label....If he isnt on a major anymore, and since he doesnt own his own label, you can bet any NIN related release from this point on will be somehow/someway tied into/exclusive to apple.....either the album will be on apple/ or if the album sees physical release, then the "bonus" tracks will be on apple...dont think for a second he isnt going to find a way work apple into this thing

[Khrz]

OK, did I just read that Trent likes the fucking Lumineers? Someone slap the shit out of him.

I read that he "diplomatically" stood up like everyone, I think you misread the tone of the piece.

[BRoswell]

HM was on a major label....If he isnt on a major anymore, and since he doesnt own his own label, you can bet any NIN related release from this point on will be somehow/someway tied into/exclusive to apple.....either the album will be on apple/ or if the album sees physical release, then the "bonus" tracks will be on apple...dont think for a second he isnt going to find a way work apple into this thing

The keyword is "if". There's no indication that he is or isn't going to work with Columbia again on the next album, so right now it's all speculation. Also, he could easily release it on his own if he so chooses, especially if there won't be an expensive tour to support it.

And at most, he might do a "first listen" stream through Apple before the official release, which he also did with Hesitation Marks.

[WorzelG]

HM was on a major label....If he isnt on a major anymore, and since he doesnt own his own label, you can bet any NIN related release from this point on will be somehow/someway tied into/exclusive to apple.....either the album will be on apple/ or if the album sees physical release, then the "bonus" tracks will be on apple...dont think for a second he isnt going to find a way work apple into this thing
NIN is still listed as an artist on Columbia's website but htda isn't. I guess if they removed one from the list they'd remove the other if NIN were actually a free agent again.

[somewhat_]

NIN is still listed as an artist on Columbia's website but htda isn't. I guess if they removed one from the list they'd remove the other if NIN were actually a free agent again.

Wow, don't mean to jump to conclusions, but that could be the first real sign that HTDA is done for.

[WorzelG]

Wow, don't mean to jump to conclusions, but that could be the first real sign that HTDA is done for.
I guess they could self-release

[somewhat_]

I guess they could self-release

They could, but if TR thinks Columbia is good enough for NIN then he would probably stick with it for HTDA as well.

[sick among the pure]

Wow, don't mean to jump to conclusions, but that could be the first real sign that HTDA is done for.

Or maybe he signed a longer deal for NIN and got a kind of "one and done" deal for HTDA so there was no pressure with that project to keep it going in any specific direction when it came to releases.
Who really knows other than those who are in the band.

All I know is I'm excited to hear new material from anything Trent works on.

[sweeterthan]

I really hope htda isn't dead. I want to see one live performance.


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[DVYDRNS]

I can't say how I know. But I know for a fact that HTDA is done. It was a one off.

[sweeterthan]

I can't say how I know. But I know for a fact that HTDA is done. It was a one off.

Boo. I believe you. :-/

[PhoenixML]

Well, having three kids sure can delay some stuff.

[fillow]

Yes, yes. Sure you do.

[billpulsipher]

I remember before HM came out and he was defending the movie to Columbia, he kept stressing it was something along the lines of a 1 album deal...My guess is they are free agents....someone call Mike Patton and Ipecac Records up

[BRoswell]

I can't say how I know. But I know for a fact that HTDA is done. It was a one off.

If you can't say how you know, then I can't say that I believe you. :p

[DVYDRNS]

I never said you had to

[HurtinMinorKey]

I never said you had to

I disagree with you based on the fact that Trent has never demonstrated the ability (or desire) to consistently stick to long term plans.


That being said, (1) in terms of $s, it never makes sense to release under HTDA, they will always will make more $ off releasing the exact same music as NIN. But I'm not so cynical that I think that this is purely a matter of dollar signs for TR at this point. (2) while TR isn't one for long-term plans, perhaps the other members are.

[ultimatebdp]

HTDA was probably done just to make the wife happy. Now they've got 3 boys so that project is on indefinite hiatus, but considering Q joined NIN on stage for a few dates, I wouldn't be surprised if she ended up on a NIN album doing background vocals or whatnot.

[SM Rollinger]

Why hasn't trent covered this yet? I mean come on, it would be perfect.

[eversonpoe]

HTDA was probably done just to make the wife happy. Now they've got 3 boys so that project is on indefinite hiatus, but considering Q joined NIN on stage for a few dates, I wouldn't be surprised if she ended up on a NIN album doing background vocals or whatnot.

i really, really hate it when people refer to someone's spouse or partner as "THE wife". it always comes off sexist and really disrespectful. and a lot of people around here do it, always while putting down mariqueen.

[BRoswell]

i really, really hate it when people refer to someone's spouse or partner as "THE wife". it always comes off sexist and really disrespectful. and a lot of people around here do it, always while putting down mariqueen.

Yeah, that shit drives me crazy. Also, Trent said on several occasions before How To Destroy Angels was formed that he was interested in working with a female vocalist. I doubt Trent was thinking "Well, I'm married now, so I'd better make a band to put my wife in."

[billpulsipher]

calling her "the wife" is better than calling her Yoko....

[sick among the pure]

calling her "the wife" is better than calling her Yoko....

We know you're just jealous that Trent didn't marry you and stay on hard drugs, but seriously, chill with the bullshit already.

[nooneimportant]

I have a question for @billpulsipher (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=2774):

Why the are you on ETS in the first place?

[GibbonBlack]

I have a question for @billpulsipher (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=2774):

Why the are you on ETS in the first place?

Oh oh! I know this one!

It's because people keep feeding him!

[nooneimportant]

Oh oh! I know this one!

It's because people keep feeding him!

I'm not feeding anybody. I'm no Chef. If he finds enjoyment out of this then that's sad, that's all I'm trying to say.

[somewhat_]

Interview about Before the Flood
http://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/green-life/musician-and-composer-trent-reznor-talks-about-flood

Some NIN thoughts, he says in this that he hadnt worked on vocal pieces with Atticus since HM so either NIN is only just being worked on or Atticus is not involved with the new NIN or it is instrumental?

Hopefully Atticus is not involved with the new NIN

[WorzelG]

Hopefully Atticus is not involved with the new NIN

Out of interest who would you like to see produce NIN if Trent shakes it up a bit?

[hologram parade]

Out of interest who would you like to see produce NIN if Trent shakes it up a bit?


The Haxan Cloak, The Bug, Christoffer Berg, Andy Stott or Adrain Sherwood

[Khrz]

+1 for The Haxan Cloak. I'd mention Lopatin, but I really have no idea how that'd turn out (I'm aware of the remix, but that's not the same thing imo)

Oh, and since we're putting Andy Stott, I'd love to see Tim Hecker give it a go.

[witte]

Interview about Before the Flood
http://www.sierraclub.org/sierra/green-life/musician-and-composer-trent-reznor-talks-about-flood

Some NIN thoughts, he says in this that he hadnt worked on vocal pieces with Atticus since HM so either NIN is only just being worked on or Atticus is not involved with the new NIN or it is instrumental?
I cannot follow this theory....

[GibbonBlack]

Out of interest who would you like to see produce NIN if Trent shakes it up a bit?

Dr.Dre. I'm not that big of a fan of his but I think they could do interesting stuff together providing Dre stayed as just a producer like he did on Even Deeper

[BRoswell]

Trailer for Logan uses Johnny Cash's version of Hurt
https://youtu.be/Div0iP65aZo

As much as I love Cash's version of Hurt, this is SUCH a cliche now.

[niggo]

^

Great interview.

[Krazy]

As for a "new" producer, anyone who can talk him into using more of the traditional analog instruments rather than something that feels nearly completely made from an iMac.

[hobochic]

As for a "new" producer, anyone who can talk him into using more of the traditional analog instruments rather than something that feels nearly completely made from an iMac.

The problem is not the lack of traditional analog instruments, but the way they still make it all sound like Garageband with "glitchy & noisy" patches.

[LOVEANDZOMBIES]

Oh god - here comes the morons on social media talking about much they love this Johnny Cash song...

Trailer for Logan uses Johnny Cash's version of Hurt
https://youtu.be/Div0iP65aZo

[Krazy]

with "glitchy & noisy" patches.

And let's not forget the pressing of an "air can" noise.

I just want some more beats that sound like it came from traditional drums. HM had next to none of that.

[WorzelG]

I cannot follow this theory....

After listening to the Zane Lowe interview just ignore what I said, I just assumed if NIN was coming out this year they'd have been working on it already and near completion so when he said he hadnt worked on any vocals with Atticus since HM I was Eh? However from this interview god knows when anything will be released

[joplinpicasso]

Has anybody heard this song by Derek Lamb called Nine Inch Nails? I just got his record "She Was Poor But She Was Honest" released in 1962.
Discogs: http://www.discogs.com/Derek-Lamb-She-Was-Poor-But-She-Was-Honest/release/1551804 (https://www.discogs.com/Derek-Lamb-She-Was-Poor-But-She-Was-Honest/release/1551804)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7ZH4ouQ2o8



What in the hell?

[SchwarzerAbt]

so when he said he hadnt worked on any vocals with Atticus since HM I was Eh? However from this interview god knows when anything will be released

Or maybe new NIN does not involve Atticus?

[BRoswell]

Or maybe new NIN does not involve Atticus?

Nope. He specifically said they're working on new stuff.

[ManBurning]

What in the hell?

I guess Trent's band name isn't as unique as we thought. :(

[buckaroo]

After listening to the Zane Lowe interview just ignore what I said, I just assumed if NIN was coming out this year they'd have been working on it already and near completion so when he said he hadnt worked on any vocals with Atticus since HM I was Eh? However from this interview god knows when anything will be released

i would be really surprised if they were not close to having something completed. I just assume if they were still in the writing phase he would not have alluded to something coming out this year. Why not just say, we won't have anything out this year. If it were up to me I would release The Fragile deluxe and then a new album.

[ultimatebdp]

i really, really hate it when people refer to someone's spouse or partner as "THE wife". it always comes off sexist and really disrespectful. and a lot of people around here do it, always while putting down mariqueen.

Sexist and disrespectful? Never been called that before. I thought the conversation would go down the path on whether folks had a problem with Q appearing on a NIN album, not that I used the word "the" instead of "his." Personally, I like her and don't have a problem with her appearing on a NIN album with the hubby. *Damn, there I go being all sexist and disrespectful again*

[ultimatebdp]

Yeah, that shit drives me crazy. Also, Trent said on several occasions before How To Destroy Angels was formed that he was interested in working with a female vocalist. I doubt Trent was thinking "Well, I'm married now, so I'd better make a band to put my wife in."

Hear me out, BRos. She quits West Indian Girl when they got married, so she becomes a vocalist without a band...married to an amazing producer who had just put his band on indefinite hiatus...who had also talked about doing a project with a female vocalist, but it never came about. If I were her, I'd be all over his ass to see what a collaboration could produce!! If I were him, I would think the easiest person to get along with and do such a project would be his VOCALIST WIFE. No? Ever been married? If not, you'll see. There's truth to the saying, "Happy wife, happy life." TR knows.

[billpulsipher]

I guess file this under random NIN thoughts..I'm getting exhausted already reading/hearing Trent interviews rambling on about climate control and politics and Trump etc...is he REALLY turning into Bono? I think he's been hanging around his Hollywood millionaire friends for too long...I dont give a fuck about his political views (or ANY musicians/actors views for that matter)...Please Trent..Don't turn into THAT guy....that musician who never shuts the fuck up about politics.

[marodi]

I guess file this under random NIN thoughts..I'm getting exhausted already reading/hearing Trent interviews rambling on about climate control and politics and Trump etc...is he REALLY turning into Bono? I think he's been hanging around his Hollywood millionaire friends for too long...I dont give a fuck about his political views (or ANY musicians/actors views for that matter)...Please Trent..Don't turn into THAT guy....that musician who never shuts the fuck up about politics.

You realize that Year Zero is almost 10 years old, right? Making political statements is nothing new to him. And personally, I care a little bit about what he thinks on that subject because I'd rather see him become the new Bono than the new Ted Nugent.

[Krazy]

..I'm getting exhausted already .

I was exhausted with it during the 2008 presidential campaign. This was already after he turned down THTF for an MTV performance (or was it the other way around?) and the general theme behind YZ.

[BRoswell]

Seems to me like politics and social awareness have always been a part of his music in some form or another. He's always been attacking greed or religion or some sort of power in his music. Maybe it hasn't always been as overt as Year Zero, but it's been there pretty much since the beginning.

Also, if you're "so exhausted" reading Trent's views, maybe you should go do something else. Nobody's forcing you to read his interviews.

[witte]

Out of interest who would you like to see produce NIN if Trent shakes it up a bit?
rick rubin for sure
rr + tr = gold

[sweeterthan]

Nin has been political since the beginning. What do you think head like a hole is about?


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[billpulsipher]

I'd like to find the interview he did in the mid 90s where he ranted about how he doesn't give a fuck about politics and how he thinks all politicians are corrupt and how he vows to never make NIN a political band..might have been the Raygun interview

[sick among the pure]

I'd like to find the interview he did in the mid 90s where he ranted about how he doesn't give a fuck about politics and how he thinks all politicians are corrupt and how he vows to never make NIN a political band..might have been the Raygun interview


Being against dangerous and ignorant political figures in an interview isn't really the same as NIN being a political band. I mean, he's not singing some RATM songs and telling people "vote for ___". He's saying "wow, this shit is really fucked up, and it pisses me off that someone who says these things is actually being considered as the president of the country I live in."

But yeah, if you're tired of Trent voicing his opinion, then does that mean you don't think he has run out of things to say after all? ;)

[Dr Channard]

I'd like to find the interview he did in the mid 90s where he ranted about how he doesn't give a fuck about politics and how he thinks all politicians are corrupt and how he vows to never make NIN a political band..might have been the Raygun interview

So in a mid 90s interview Trent calls out politicians for being corrupt...and the corrupt politicians are today trying to deny climate change....and (supposedly) in a more recent interview Trent again calls them out for still being corrupt...and what exactly has changed here?....what exactly has he reneged on?

[billpulsipher]

So in a mid 90s interview Trent calls out politicians for being corrupt...and the corrupt politicians are today trying to deny climate change....and (supposedly) in a more recent interview Trent again calls them out for still being corrupt...and what exactly has changed here?....what exactly has he reneged on?

Doing movie soundtracks for a hypocrite hollyood millionaire actor who preaches about climate change and saving the environment whilst flying around in private jets that spew toxins into the air and riding around in 20 million dollar yachts that spew diesel into the water and air...i think 1997 Trent would have laughed DiCaprio out of the room about what a hypocrite he is (which most of the media DOES do and why this film is most likely going to get barraged)

.Personally I prefer musicians like Mike Patton or Robert Smith, whenever they get asked about politics, they say "fuck em all" and thats the end of it. They dont do songs and albums and movie scores and interviews rambling about this shit...let Richard Patrick or Al Jourgensen or holier than thou Bono do that shit....Trent should stay silent about politics and do another NIN album. the end. I really dont give a shit that he hates Trump or loves Bernie Sanders and I dont need 2 hour interviews preaching about climate change andhow serious it is. Let DiCaprio do that...if he isnt busy riding around in his private jet to Monte Carlo or Paris to score some more model babes....dig that

[wizfan]

Listening to the Somewhat Damaged instrumental again. Ugh, those cringe-inducing techno bass synths at the end. I'm glad Trent left them out in the final version, or it would have dated the song badly.

[BRoswell]

Musicians shouldn't have thoughts and opinions about anything. After all, they only exist for our amusement. Dance, monkey, dance!

[Dr Channard]

Doing movie soundtracks for a hypocrite hollyood millionaire actor who preaches about climate change and saving the environment whilst flying around in private jets that spew toxins into the air and riding around in 20 million dollar yachts that spew diesel into the water and air...i think 1997 Trent would have laughed DiCaprio out of the room about what a hypocrite he is (which most of the media DOES do and why this film is most likely going to get barraged)

You may have a completely legitimate and respectable position about the hypocrisy thing. Although not personally having seen the film myself I‘d have to ask, is it really about someone preaching about climate change and hypocritically blaming others for something that they themselves may largely share guilt in? Or perhaps, is it simply a documentary presenting a body of evidence on the subject for everybody’s consideration? Guess I’d have to watch it first to know.

But in any event, being a rational person, surely you can appreciate that this is Mr. Reznor working along with other musicians doing this soundtrack, and not nine inch nails. This soundtrack is not a nine inch nails project, it is not a nine inch nails album, it is not a foray into politics for nine inch nails, it really has nothing to do with nine inch nails at all. Trent’s interviews about it are completely unconnected to nine inch nails. To point to Trent interviews or this soundtrack as evidence of nine inch nails being turned into a political band, it just doesn’t seem to be a fair conclusion.


.Personally I prefer musicians like Mike Patton or Robert Smith, whenever they get asked about politics, they say "fuck em all" and thats the end of it. They dont do songs and albums and movie scores and interviews rambling about this shit...let Richard Patrick or Al Jourgensen or holier than thou Bono do that shit....Trent should stay silent about politics and do another NIN album. the end. I really dont give a shit that he hates Trump or loves Bernie Sanders and I dont need 2 hour interviews preaching about climate change andhow serious it is. Let DiCaprio do that...if he isnt busy riding around in his private jet to Monte Carlo or Paris to score some more model babes....dig that

As far as personal opinions go, that’s fair enough, I dig, man.http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/images/icons/icon14.png

[billpulsipher]

I'm not arguing about climate change...but I have major issues with DiCaprio though...read up on him...He has gotten destroyed for how much of a hypocrite he is..His yachts alone are EXTREMELY pollutant and horrific for the environment...just a few articles (theres 9999 more) not sure why TR wants to get involved in this and answer these questions (hes already gotten asked about the Leo hypocrisy thing)


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3605779/Eco-warrior-hypocrite-Leonardo-DiCaprio-jets-world-partying-preaching-global-warming-Title-goes-here.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2016/03/01/leonardo-dicaprios-carbon-footprint-is-much-higher-than-he-thinks/#d8ff8d568a27

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/cody-battershill/leonardo-dicaprio-activism_b_9025188.html

http://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/How-Leonardo-DiCaprios-Carbon-Footprint-Clashes-With-His-Climate-Claims.html

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2015/05/23/environmental-hypocrite-leonardo-dicaprios-superyacht-has-huge-carbon-footprint/

[Dr Channard]

Sure, you may be 100% vindicated in proclaiming the hypocrisy of DiCaprio. Never having spent any time with him myself, I just personally don’t know. Is it possible that the guy is the real world equivalent of a Captain Planet supervillain? Yeah, it’s possible I guess. Or maybe he’s a guy who’s simply made some pretty bad environmental decisions in the past, and is now looking to proactively rectify some of that. Without spending any personal time with him, it’s just hard to know.

But if you feel the need to hold his feet to the flames on this issue, you’re within your right to do so. Trent can’t answer for DiCaprio, nor can anyone else here (unless DiCaprio is a member). Only he can answer for himself. With Trent's involvement on the project, maybe he’s able to focus on the larger importance of the documentary itself, instead of the flaws of a courier.

[GibbonBlack]

Is it possible that the guy is the real world equivalent of a Captain Planet supervillain?

well...He is producing a Captain Planet movie

[implanted_microchip]

Is ... is the Random NIN Thoughts thread now about whether Leonardo DiCaprio is cool or not?

And to think people complained that I post about liking the Tetsuo Theme too often, holy shit

[Microwave Jellyfish]

I'd like to find the interview he did in the mid 90s where he ranted about how he doesn't give a fuck about politics and how he thinks all politicians are corrupt and how he vows to never make NIN a political band
Which would have all the relevancy in the world if Before the Flood was a NIN release.

[Microwave Jellyfish]

I really like his little "Ian Curtis without arms" dance at the end of Disappointed.

Edit: aw shit, this isn't the Random thoughts thread. Sorry.

[Substance242]

About nin.com: maybe such big update is coming that it doesn't feel right to spend any effort on current version... :-)

[SchwarzerAbt]

About nin.com: maybe such big update is coming that it doesn't feel right to spend any effort on current version... :-)

As the current nin.com is only a stupid tumblr page I hope it's true. I still don't understand the lack of information though as it should be quite easy to update and maintain this tumblr page.

If I remember correctly when asked for advise for newcomer bands Trent once said they should have their own homepage and not only rely on MySpace, facebook, etc. Oh, the times, how they are changing...

[Ryan]

Is ... is the Random NIN Thoughts thread now about whether Leonardo DiCaprio is cool or not?

And to think people complained that I post about liking the Tetsuo Theme too often, holy shit

Man you really have a boner for that song don't you? Haha

[implanted_microchip]

Man you really have a boner for that song don't you? Haha
Yes, a massive, titanium, spinning digitally-infected boner that, once ejaculating, releases the cerebral bore weapon from that Turok game, the closest thing to a post-coital reprieve being a recharge session set to sparse, sad, classic Reznor piano before roaring up again for round 2: Anal boogaloo

I'' tellin' ya, when the robots overtake us and the fingers are replaced with saw blades, you'll finally understand that it was never a song, just a broadcast from the techno-king of the future.

[Ryan]

Yes, a massive, titanium, spinning digitally-infected boner that, once ejaculating, releases the cerebral bore weapon from that Turok game, the closest thing to a post-coital reprieve being a recharge session set to sparse, sad, classic Reznor piano before roaring up again for round 2: Anal boogaloo

I'' tellin' ya, when the robots overtake us and the fingers are replaced with saw blades, you'll finally understand that it was never a song, just a broadcast from the techno-king of the future.

That needs to be added to the liner notes of all future pressings of the soundtrack.

[BenAkenobi]

Said it before, will say again: i'm much more impressed with Chu Ishikawa's tracks from The Bullet Man, Trent's track simply pales in comparison.

[ninjaw]

Apologies if this has been posted before but I thought it was too good not to share.

But .. this is just l'appoule mousique !

[Hyperpower]

i was thinking earlier today about the TDS era and TF era and well, in recent years there hasn't been bonus tracks like there was with the 20th Anniversery edition of TDS and the WITT singles.
i guess the exception being WT since the Japanense edition had Home on it but anyway, i kinda miss that about more recent NIN albums.

anyone else miss that? i liked the demos on the above mentioned TDS and the rares from WITT.
wonder what bonus tracks from Year Zero, The Slip, Hesitation Marks etc.. would we have seen if that had happened.

[implanted_microchip]

i was thinking earlier today about the TDS era and TF era and well, in recent years there hasn't been bonus tracks like there was with the 20th Anniversery edition of TDS and the WITT singles.
i guess the exception being WT since the Japanense edition had Home on it but anyway, i kinda miss that about more recent NIN albums.

anyone else miss that? i liked the demos on the above mentioned TDS and the rares from WITT.
wonder what bonus tracks from Year Zero, The Slip, Hesitation Marks etc.. would we have seen if that had happened.

I miss this for music in general but I think we're out of that time period where "exclusive bonus tracks!" sell things so what maybe would have once been made for that reason or withheld for inclusion on other things later on is now either already on the album or simply not being made at all. There's simply less reason to do it.

I think a large aspect of what made NIN devour me in a band no other band ever had before it was, really, all that extra shit though -- you could hear an album, think, "I love this sound," and then be told "Oh yeah? Well guess what, there's 4+ more hours of stuff a lot like it from that time period," and you'd be down the rabbit hole. There's so much weird, interesting, dark and kinda hidden-feeling shit from TDS era and to a much lesser extent The Fragile time period. Year Zero seemed to really want to recapture that magic, but the remix album itself was largely lackluster and it's more the ARG that gives it that feel, along with the incredible wealth of amazing fan remixes.

I do kinda hate that that's gone. If you like The Slip and want more of that feel? I guess you're stuck with live takes of the same tracks. I know that Hesitation Marks feels like a massive missed opportunity every time I hear it for weird off-shoots and releases. Sorry, that meh free remix EP wasn't enough and the bonus disc felt like the start of something cool that didn't get completed. The fact that there is no real remix community left aside from a handful of those who were hardcore into it back when it was thriving and there are no neat, weird, interesting obscura and rarities anymore does make it a lot harder to get obsessive around more recent material.

If I'm in a Downward Spiral mood, I can reach for the most insane amount of stuff -- Closer to God, March of the Pigs, either version of Further Down the Spiral, the album itself, the demos, the live bootlegs, Closure and its DVD stuff, the soundtrack work Trent did at the time, etc. I can't really ... well, do that at all with something like HM. If I wanna hear that sound, I'm stuck with just that album, and some kind of lackluster "at least you tried!" related content that's very underwhelming. That's a privileged complaint but NIN is a band that really spoiled fans with explosions of content and now it's kind of the opposite -- things are almost anorexic.

I just wish Trent would've at some point done a release that had whatever material he'd made or early versions that differentiated from With Teeth that were intended for Bleedthrough. Kind of a Through the Looking Glass album for it. I love the overall aesthetic and vibe of that album and time period and yet it feels like there's a whole lot beneath the surface that you can't really get to.

[r_z]

Aren't there still unreleased songs from the WT sessions? I seem to remember an interview with TR saying something like the next album being almost ready to go... kinda like what Radiohead did with Kid A and Amnesiac. I believe he pulled Non-Entity and Not So Pretty Now from those songs.
This was before he scrapped those and went on making Year Zero the next album instead...

[fillow]

^^
No, it wasn't like that.
When asked about Non Entity and NSPN in The Spiral chat sometime in 2006 (if they are saved for the next record or what), he simply said smth like 'We'll see, you never know'
There are probably a few unfinished tracks from WT still, like those listed in a lyrics poster, but hardly an album worth.

[onthewall2983]

Watched The Accountant today. Couldn't help but think that Ben Affleck had one or two of Trent's mannerisms.

[Khrz]

Music bulb? What are you trying to say? How does that contribute to this thread or what I posted?
I'm honestly confused please explain.
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

Just a bad, impossible to translate French play on words based on the way Apple would be pronounced with a bad French accent. I think ninjaw forgot he was on an English forum and went full-on French, obnoxious attitude included.

[Ryan]

Just a bad, impossible to translate French play on words based on the way Apple would be pronounced with a bad French accent. I think @ninjaw (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=746) forgot he was on an English forum and went full-on French, obnoxious attitude included.

I love how much of a non obnoxious french person you are

[Krazy]

And why is ninjaw getting all violent facepalming users? Is that French for "slapping ass"?...

[ninjaw]

It's a video that Trent posted on Apple Music called "Recording At Risk" back in the days when Apple Music was launched and Trent contributed (it lasted like 1 week ?).
https://itunes.apple.com/us/post/idsa.7477d856-25f3-11e5-a009-3b41a61d0d7c

Thank you for focusing back on the meaning of my answer.

[neorev]

This guy is making better NIN music than Trent as of lately...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brLetwvulz8

[joplinpicasso]

Aren't there still unreleased songs from the WT sessions? I seem to remember an interview with TR saying something like the next album being almost ready to go... kinda like what Radiohead did with Kid A and Amnesiac. I believe he pulled Non-Entity and Not So Pretty Now from those songs.
This was before he scrapped those and went on making Year Zero the next album instead...

I think what we have is what we'll get (Home, Non Entity, Not So Pretty Now, RWIB v2). I'm pretty happy with that grouping and the remixes, though I would have loved a more abstract remix of YKWYA or ATLITW...

[buckaroo]

I think what we have is what we'll get (Home, Non Entity, Not So Pretty Now, RWIB v2). I'm pretty happy with that grouping and the remixes, though I would have loved a more abstract remix of YKWYA or ATLITW...

I would actually be really interested in hearing the music he demoed at Big Sur and then scrapped. I always felt like the Katrina benefit performance of Non Entity was the closest to what that would have sounded like.

[blassster]

After 11 years, time would have distorted my memory on specific numbers, but I thought I read something when the album came out saying he recorded around 20-30 songs for WT, and obviously kept the best ones for the album. Searching Google with different keywords and using the various search tools brings back nothing though. Ring a bell for anyone?

[fillow]

I think he said he demoed 20+ songs at the initial writing session at his home studio with piano and drum machine. He then took the best bunch of them to the proper studio.

[Dryalex12]

dont mind this........i replyed to an old comment


it dosnt make any sense now

im stafe from it

[sheepdean]

Aren't there still unreleased songs from the WT sessions? I seem to remember an interview with TR saying something like the next album being almost ready to go... kinda like what Radiohead did with Kid A and Amnesiac. I believe he pulled Non-Entity and Not So Pretty Now from those songs.
This was before he scrapped those and went on making Year Zero the next album instead...
The Warning (not that one), Message To No One, My Dead Friend and The Life You Didn't Lead were all mentioned, on the lyrics poster or release info. We have none of them, though from The Warning's title being recycled I assume that was at least turned into something else

[nooneimportant]

http://www.nin.wiki/images/f/fd/2005_02_26Questions8.gif

Based on that statement it seems like The Life You Didn't Lead became Zero-Sum because it's lyrical content is very similar.

[Ryan]

Has anybody heard this song by Derek Lamb called Nine Inch Nails? I just got his record "She Was Poor But She Was Honest" released in 1962.
Discogs: http://www.discogs.com/Derek-Lamb-She-Was-Poor-But-She-Was-Honest/release/1551804 (https://www.discogs.com/Derek-Lamb-She-Was-Poor-But-She-Was-Honest/release/1551804)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7ZH4ouQ2o8

Lyrics from the booklet:
http://i.imgur.com/QQwbjBg.jpg

Can anyone explain what these lyrics mean to me? The latter part.

[Kulerage]

http://www.nin.wiki/images/f/fd/2005_02_26Questions8.gif

Based on that statement it seems like The Life You Didn't Lead became Zero-Sum because it's lyrical content is very similar.
Damn. Decided to look at the lyrics to TLYDL and I could totally read them in the voice Trent used on Zero-Sum. Makes sense

[r_z]

Do we know the date of when Trent gave that answer?

[blassster]

Do we know the date of when Trent gave that answer?
2005 02 26 http://www.nin.wiki/nin.com/access#2005_02_26

[r_z]

So that might have been way before he began working on Year Zero, right?

[joplinpicasso]

I'm suddenly reminded again how much I enjoy Zero-Sum. Just haven't listened to it much in a long while.

[blassster]

So that might have been way before he began working on Year Zero, right?
Right, year zero was really started while on the road touring post-WT release. Source:

https://youtu.be/xr8FXnur5Z4

[r_z]

So when talking about "the next record" he probably meant an yet unnamed album that included those songs from the booklet he left off WT as well as probably "Non-Entity", "NSPN" and maybe an undisclosed amount of other - as in never publicly mentioned - songs, didn't he?

[sick among the pure]

Which era, for those of you who have been around longer, do you think Trent was most closely connected and open with his fans?
I personally would say Year Zero, even though it was after the Q&A section of nin.com was removed. Especially with how the ARG spilled into the tour and seemed very interactive in person (minus the obvious ARG show in LA), and the remix site going up.
He even came here to rip someone a new one who compared (Me, I'm Not?) to KMFDM.

[Dr Channard]

seed0 - Year Zero - Ghosts - The Slip, in that span he seemed pretty hands on with the community.

[PhoenixML]

Pretty much the "Bleedthrough" era. The whole Q&A thing was the best thing ever.

[Dryalex12]

So does that mean The Warning on WT could be the same one on YZ?

[wight rabbit]

Can anyone explain what these lyrics mean to me? The latter part.

My guess is that, given the use of negatives in that last sentence, they're saying that they don't know anyone that wants to die. The nine inch nails part referring to sealing a coffin.


This guy is making better NIN music than Trent as of lately...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brLetwvulz8

:eek: HOLY SHIT! :D

[Ryan]

New Billboard interview about the score and new NIN
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7557788/trent-reznor-atticus-ross-before-the-flood-nine-inch-nails-interview?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Where are you with new Nine Inch Nails material?

Reznor: It’s been something we’ve been kicking around and it’s gone through a lot of evolutions. I think it’s winding up at a place where we feel really good about it, and when it’s ready to be unleashed, it shall be unleashed.

Let's put all the pieces together.

1) "New NIN coming in 2016"

2) "2016 isn't over yet"

3) "When it's ready to be unleashed it will be unleashed"

December 31 2016. Just to be a troll, of course.

Plus, if it's gone through "evolutions" it must all be finished by now.

[niggo]

Hmm dunno, that sounds a bit wishy washy to me. "Something we've been kicking around"? Sounds like they we're doing it kind of along the way. Don't know how to feel about that.

Either way, looking forward to when it "shall be unleashed" (I don't know why that sounds so funny to me)

[cashpiles (closed)]

Hmm dunno, that sounds a bit wishy washy to me. "Something we've been kicking around"? Sounds like they we're doing it kind of along the way. Don't know how to feel about that.

Either way, looking forward to when it "shall be unleashed" (I don't know why that sounds so funny to me)

like he's some evil mastermind bad guy from a fantasy novel, comic book, or cartoon, and he will unleash his diabolical new magical weapon/monster of mass destruction..... or his dick....

[Khrz]

Plus, if it's gone through "evolutions" it must all be finished by now.

ahahahahah... AHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA ! AAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAH


No. Depending on their level of expectation and dissatisfaction, they could go back and forth forever until it sounds right. Personally, as soon as I heard of David Bowie's passing (and the brilliance that was Blackstar) I was convinced that the new NIN album would get scrapped and started over. I'm still wondering if that wasn't the case, a huge "oh shit" moment for Reznor.

[wizfan]

Listening to The Becoming off of the Sept 14 1995 bootleg (first performance of tour with Bowie). (http://ninlive.com/shows/1995/19950914.html) From what I could gather from NINwiki, this was the very first time the song was performed live. Not only it is very faithful to the album version (minus a few guitar fuck-ups at the end), but Trent actually pulled off the "I can try to get awaaaaaay" and "I can see it killing awaaaaay" parts spot-on (and he almost nailed the "I can try to scratch awaaaay", too). No wonder Bowie said that Trent would destroy him on stage. The Becoming is easily on my top 5 favorite NIN songs, so it makes me sad that the third verse is so hard for Trent to sing/scream. They didn't play it on the Fragility tours. He does the third verse screams on lower notes on the Still version and 2009 and 2014 performances. His screams on Performance 2007 (now listening to February 14, 2007 (http://ninlive.com/shows/2007/20070214.html) as I type this) are alllllmost there, although they are less melodic and more guttural and death metal-ish, heh.

[HurtinMinorKey]

I think the next NIN project is going be some sort of musical theater. Anyone know what Rob has been up to? I feel like he could be working on art direction for something like this. Doing something on Brodaway and then maybe a small tour.

[WorzelG]

I think the next NIN project is going be some sort of musical theater. Anyone know what Rob has been up to? I feel like he could be working on art direction for something like this. Doing something on Brodaway and then maybe a small tour.

Do you mean the Fight Club musical that's on the cards?

[wizfan]

I read Trent's text interviews in Trent's voice.

[billpulsipher]

Trent buddying up to Fisher Stevens..since when did Fisher become mr serious hollywood politico? I remember seeing a lot of his old movies where he was almost in Crispin Glover territory, always doing these crazy roles and anti-hollywood bizarro things....and now he's one of the establishment....when did ol Fisher get so serious

[BRoswell]

...and anti-hollywood bizarro things....and now he's one of the establishment....

The fuck are you talking about? The guy was in Short Circuit 1 and 2 and Super Mario Bros. Motherfucker has even been on Law & Order five or six times! He's never been anti-Hollywood.

[PhoenixML]

Don't forget Hackers too!

[sick among the pure]

Everyone used to be so cool and now they're all just a part of the system. All my heroes are just corporate pawns in a game we were set up to lose. So Hollywood now. Mainstream. Ugh.

[blassster]

Everyone used to be so cool and now they're all just a part of the system. All my heroes are just corporate pawns in a game we were set up to lose. So Hollywood now. Mainstream. Ugh.
Nooooooww I belong...

[billpulsipher]

Everyone used to be so cool and now they're all just a part of the system. All my heroes are just corporate pawns in a game we were set up to lose. So Hollywood now. Mainstream. Ugh.

is this a NIN song circa 1989?

[implanted_microchip]

Everyone used to be so cool and now they're all just a part of the system. All my heroes are just corporate pawns in a game we were set up to lose. So Hollywood now. Mainstream. Ugh.

Yeah fuck them and their success because I haven't had any

[Ryan]

Yeah fuck them and their success because I haven't had any

You've had success with my heart.

[joplinpicasso]

Listening to The Becoming off of the Sept 14 1995 bootleg (first performance of tour with Bowie). (http://ninlive.com/shows/1995/19950914.html) From what I could gather from NINwiki, this was the very first time the song was performed live. Not only it is very faithful to the album version (minus a few guitar fuck-ups at the end), but Trent actually pulled off the "I can try to get awaaaaaay" and "I can see it killing awaaaaay" parts spot-on (and he almost nailed the "I can try to scratch awaaaay", too). No wonder Bowie said that Trent would destroy him on stage. The Becoming is easily on my top 5 favorite NIN songs, so it makes me sad that the third verse is so hard for Trent to sing/scream. They didn't play it on the Fragility tours. He does the third verse screams on lower notes on the Still version and 2009 and 2014 performances. His screams on Performance 2007 (now listening to February 14, 2007 (http://ninlive.com/shows/2007/20070214.html) as I type this) are alllllmost there, although they are less melodic and more guttural and death metal-ish, heh.

Dear gods, I love this sort of analysis. I'm reposting/quoting here because I've always been fascinated by those screams in The Becoming as well as TR's scream evolution over time.

[niggo]

Listening to The Becoming off of the Sept 14 1995 bootleg (first performance of tour with Bowie). (http://ninlive.com/shows/1995/19950914.html) From what I could gather from NINwiki, this was the very first time the song was performed live. Not only it is very faithful to the album version (minus a few guitar fuck-ups at the end), but Trent actually pulled off the "I can try to get awaaaaaay" and "I can see it killing awaaaaay" parts spot-on (and he almost nailed the "I can try to scratch awaaaay", too). No wonder Bowie said that Trent would destroy him on stage. The Becoming is easily on my top 5 favorite NIN songs, so it makes me sad that the third verse is so hard for Trent to sing/scream. They didn't play it on the Fragility tours. He does the third verse screams on lower notes on the Still version and 2009 and 2014 performances. His screams on Performance 2007 (now listening to February 14, 2007 (http://ninlive.com/shows/2007/20070214.html) as I type this) are alllllmost there, although they are less melodic and more guttural and death metal-ish, heh.

Just listened to those two shows. Really interesting. I think around 2005-2006 Trent was on his highest level singing-wise. His voice got lower and he hit the notes a little better AND he could still pull of those insane screams (to the degree that they were sometimes even more insane than in the years before). Love that era. Although I have to agree with you – when it comes to The Becoming he's really, really close in 1995. Amazing performance.

What I also find incredibly interesting is what Aaron North is playing in 2007 later during the verses – that's got to be some sort of varation of the ending riff from I'm Afraid of Americans, right?

[wizfan]

The guy was in Short Circuit 2

"Before the Flood" perfectly describes the eyes of a five-year-old wizfan right before he witnessed Johnny 5 being beaten up. "That little robot... nooooooooooooo"

[billpulsipher]

forget before the flood..this is fisher stevens greatest work

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lekxSn2RpnM

[billpulsipher]

seeing some of the reviews of Before The Flood....YIKES..ol Leo is getting decimated....Trent looks like an even bigger fool for attaching himself to this shit

[nooneimportant]

Listening to The Becoming off of the Sept 14 1995 bootleg (first performance of tour with Bowie). (http://ninlive.com/shows/1995/19950914.html) From what I could gather from NINwiki, this was the very first time the song was performed live. Not only it is very faithful to the album version (minus a few guitar fuck-ups at the end), but Trent actually pulled off the "I can try to get awaaaaaay" and "I can see it killing awaaaaay" parts spot-on (and he almost nailed the "I can try to scratch awaaaay", too). No wonder Bowie said that Trent would destroy him on stage. The Becoming is easily on my top 5 favorite NIN songs, so it makes me sad that the third verse is so hard for Trent to sing/scream. They didn't play it on the Fragility tours. He does the third verse screams on lower notes on the Still version and 2009 and 2014 performances. His screams on Performance 2007 (now listening to February 14, 2007 (http://ninlive.com/shows/2007/20070214.html) as I type this) are alllllmost there, although they are less melodic and more guttural and death metal-ish, heh.

You know what I love about that 95 version? The fact Trent sings in a very distressed manner over the guitar outro, a sort of staple of the Self Destruct shows in general. When I first heard that, I was kinda taken back by how much that caps the song off better especially considering the story of The Downward Spiral. You can't beat the Piano ending he added in 2009 though, that's top stuff right there, bonus points for Robin Finck smashing a guitar during it once. (Video is at 4:45)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrn3FtwZrVY

[raptors661]

seeing some of the reviews of Before The Flood....YIKES..ol Leo is getting decimated....Trent looks like an even bigger fool for attaching himself to this shit
You mean the 70% on Rotten Tomatoes with an average review score of 7/10? It's not getting decimated.

[Ryan]

Every morning I login to ETS I'm anticipating a new thread saying "nin: halo twenty nine - [insert title here]".

[piggy]

I had a dream about a week ago that a new NIN EP had been announced, along with a tour. It was better than my sex dreams.

[joplinpicasso]

"I'm a pretty big NIN fan," I thought. "Those torrent seed releases were for the casual fans," I thought. Now I've learned that there is an alternate version of ATLITW I've never heard?? Any other concise way of knowing of other different takes/versions from those releases. This also applies to the damn Apple Music releases. So many cool additions in those instrumentals and I've not heard them yet...

[neorev]

"I'm a pretty big NIN fan," I thought. "Those torrent seed releases were for the casual fans," I thought. Now I've learned that there is an alternate version of ATLITW I've never heard?? Any other concise way of knowing of other different takes/versions from those releases. This also applies to the damn Apple Music releases. So many cool additions in those instrumentals and I've not heard them yet...

I thought so too, what alt version of ATLITW do you soeak of? What torrents are these?

[BRoswell]

I thought so too, what alt version of ATLITW do you soeak of? What torrents are these?

There was an alternate version included in "The Definitive NIN - Deep Cuts" torrent that features samples from The Twilight Zone episode "And When The Sky Was Opened" at the beginning. It's an interesting listen, but not something I would call essential.

[WorzelG]

There was an alternate version included in "The Definitive NIN - Deep Cuts" torrent that features samples from The Twilight Zone episode "And When The Sky Was Opened" at the beginning. It's an interesting listen, but not something I would call essential.

Trent really likes naming songs after Twilight Zone episodes doesn't he? And when the sky was opened is a title from Before the Flood

[neorev]

There was an alternate version included in "The Definitive NIN - Deep Cuts" torrent that features samples from The Twilight Zone episode "And When The Sky Was Opened" at the beginning. It's an interesting listen, but not something I would call essential.

These torrents aren't around anymore? Is there any place to still download them?

I did find them a part of a torrent, but the files were 192kbps... is that how they were uploaded? Or were there better quality in the original torrents?

[joplinpicasso]

There was an alternate version included in "The Definitive NIN - Deep Cuts" torrent that features samples from The Twilight Zone episode "And When The Sky Was Opened" at the beginning. It's an interesting listen, but not something I would call essential.

It is essential because it hath been decided upon by Trent, damnit. Also I just find it fascinating, especially because the only standout sampling I can recall from WT is in the title track intro and RWIB.

[BRoswell]

I did find them a part of a torrent, but the files were 192kbps... is that how they were uploaded? Or were there better quality in the original torrents?

I believe that's how they were uploaded originally.

[neorev]

I believe that's how they were uploaded originally.

Ah, alrighty. Thanks for the info.

[Khrz]

Yeah it was more of a generous promotional thingy rather than a full-blown gift, those files were never HD to begin with, just enough to be listenable.

[piggy]

For info on differences in the instrumentals for TF and WT, you can look them up here:
http://www.nin.wiki/Remixes

The Definitive NIN series can still be streamed at Spotify and SoundCloud. Here's more info:
http://www.nin.wiki/The_Definitive_NIN

[elevenism]

So i could handle another volume of Ghosts IF THEY WORKED ON IT MORE.
A few weeks and "everything we try is on the record" is not how i like my NIN.

Also, a subdued NIN along the lines of some of the soundtrack work, with about 1/2 instrumentals and 1/2 not, i could dig.

I was thinking about this when i heard the end credits of Before the Flood, and was reminded of Page and Plant's "walking into clarksdale."
To me it seemed like they (page and plant) were creating music that was VERY complimentary to their ages-reflective like.

[Ryan]

Seeing this post (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/4001-NIN-Spotting-2016-Edition?p=321976#post321976) just reminded me how much I love the artwork for that Ghosts track. There's something just so melancholy and alone about it, particularly the larger photo.

[ninjaw]

ninwiki it my son. As in, add the info to the page.

http://www.nin.wiki/28_Ghosts_IV

Search for Citizenfour doesnt seem to work too

[ninjaw]

For info on differences in the instrumentals for TF and WT, you can look them up here:
http://www.nin.wiki/Remixes

The Definitive NIN series can still be streamed at Spotify and SoundCloud. Here's more info:
http://www.nin.wiki/The_Definitive_NIN

I think they forgot one or two starfuckers versions, there is at least three different endings for the original song... since i got one that appears to fade on the start of complication, also in the same jap promo, there is a version with the main instrument missing on the bridge.

[wizfan]

This is a brilliant DJ mix of all things NIN. The blending in between the songs is so damn good. https://www.mixcloud.com/hungryanteater/an-introduction-to-nin-nine-inch-nails/

[ninjaw]

This is a brilliant DJ mix of all things NIN. The blending in between the songs is so damn good. https://www.mixcloud.com/hungryanteater/an-introduction-to-nin-nine-inch-nails/

Says you can download it there https://soundcloud.com/hungryanteater/an-introduction-to-nin

[ninjaw]

Wow this is the best thing I heard since rusty nails

[Microwave Jellyfish]

While I'm Still Here is about hair loss.

[blassster]

While I'm Still Here is about hair loss.
Black Noise is about finding the perfect black toupee to enhance his vocal resonance.

[cashpiles (closed)]

While I'm Still Here is about hair loss.

Black Noise is about finding the perfect black toupee to enhance his vocal resonance.

The Perfect Drug is about Rogaine.... Trent's hair loss began earlier than we had suspected.


on a side note: New NIN album will be announced within 3 weeks. EXCITED.

[Krazy]

Closer is about... shaving a certain body part?...

[Ryan]

Deep is about kleiner352 and I.

[ninjaw]

on a side note: New NIN album will be announced within 3 weeks. EXCITED.

I'm sorry what ? In 3 weeks it will still be 2016

[fillow]

I'm sorry what ? In 3 weeks it will still be 2016
Check the poster's forum posts history. He makes these claims every now and then, for whatever reason.

[Khrz]

Cashpiles is our very own buzzfeed.

[Ryan]

The Perfect Drug is about Rogaine.... Trent's hair loss began earlier than we had suspected.


on a side note: New NIN album will be announced within 3 weeks. EXCITED.

Two and a half weeks.*

[ultimatebdp]

I was kinda hoping to wake up and see a surprise, angsty new NIN song for election day... :(

[Khrz]

I was kinda hoping to wake up and see a surprise, angsty new NIN song for election day... :(


I'm kinda relieved actually, I was really not eager for some sort of The Hand That Feeds/Capital G rehash on cue for election day.

[WorzelG]

Marilyn Manson has done that, but the problem is everything Trump says is more shocking than anything Manson could come up with

[implanted_microchip]

Deep is about @kleiner352 (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=4417) and I.

I'm gonna go make a withdrawal