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ghostaustin
08-01-2012, 09:57 AM
every time I listen to EDIETS, I still hear "I think I used to have a porpoise"

sheepdean
08-01-2012, 11:46 AM
every time I listen to EDIETS, I still hear "I think I used to have a porpoise"
http://sheepdean.weebly.com/uploads/3/7/4/3/3743345/every_fish_is_exactly_the_same.txt

Highly Psychological
08-01-2012, 03:49 PM
Where is Everybody? should have been a single from The Fragile. Listening to that today im amazed Interscope did not push for that to be a single.
That era The Fragile was released was weakest time for music and,mainstream rock. But if you listen to Where is Everybody you can hear the hit potential there. Its so enormous sounding in every sense.
Its been used in about 20 movies and adverts since??? Ive heard it on a few really, really random shows for the BBC over the years.

They took a risk with Closer in 94 but not that track? Odd.

eversonpoe
08-01-2012, 04:27 PM
http://sheepdean.weebly.com/uploads/3/7/4/3/3743345/every_fish_is_exactly_the_same.txt

i was trying SO HARD to come up with some good rhymes to do that, but i kept failing. i salute you, sir.

sick among the pure
08-01-2012, 04:57 PM
every time I listen to EDIETS, I still hear "I think I used to have a porpoise"


Oh, how I miss the days when the Photoshop thread was updated constantly.

Findus
08-02-2012, 04:10 AM
What do nin and geography have in common?
http://i1260.photobucket.com/albums/ii574/benakenobi/ninworld.jpg
Probably nothing...

Europe looks like a dog. Maybe a cocker spaniel.

princessomega
08-02-2012, 08:51 AM
Call me insane, but I have always thought that the very beginning of "were in this together", the distorted parts in the beginning always seem to be saying "Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger"
Ive ruined that beginning for a few people I know now, because ive convinced them to hear it too...

Leman Russ
08-02-2012, 11:38 AM
Call me insane, but I have always thought that the very beginning of "were in this together", the distorted parts in the beginning always seem to be saying "Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger, Cheeseburger"
Ive ruined that beginning for a few people I know now, because ive convinced them to hear it too...

:D wow now that's all I can hear. On a related note, my friend and I ruined the kind of slappy bass notes that precede the "Help me" portions of Closer. We imagined that was the noise a penguin would make as it walked, and now anytime I listen to Closer, I imagine penguins marching along with it.

eversonpoe
08-02-2012, 01:03 PM
:D wow now that's all I can hear. On a related note, my friend and I ruined the kind of slappy bass notes that precede the "Help me" portions of Closer. We imagined that was the noise a penguin would make as it walked, and now anytime I listen to Closer, I imagine penguins marching along with it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRHn6TsvteQ

dcl
08-04-2012, 09:55 PM
Does anyone have the ultimate fragile playlist handy? with tracks from still and whatnot incorporated?

ImTheWiseJanitor
08-04-2012, 11:02 PM
:d wow now that's all i can hear. On a related note, my friend and i ruined the kind of slappy bass notes that precede the "help me" portions of closer. We imagined that was the noise a penguin would make as it walked, and now anytime i listen to closer, i imagine penguins marching along with it.

"March, penguins!"

pigpen
08-05-2012, 02:05 PM
I LOVE 10 Miles High and The New Flesh I don't know why those two tracks didn't make it onto the standard tracklist..

wizfan
08-05-2012, 02:18 PM
Please, don't turn this thread into "The Ultimate Fragile Reissue Part Deux."

sheepdean
08-05-2012, 02:32 PM
Further Down The Spiral: Tour features no songs from the album
And All That Could Have Been: tour doesn't have song on, standard album doesn't have song on
With Teeth: tour barely features song
Lights In The Sky: tour doesn't have song on, EP doesn't have song on

Does Trent pay attention to what he calls his tours?

fillow
08-05-2012, 03:04 PM
^^
Further Down The Spiral: pretty sure the title is not official. Too lazy to search, but I think the passes/posters/whetever memorabilia from that tour reads Self Destruct tour. And oh, the album happened a few months after said tour ended.
And All That Could Have Been: lyric is featured in The Great Below and The Wreteched
With Teeth: still played more than 50 times
Lights In The Sky: agreed (though the song was soundchecked)

sick among the pure
08-05-2012, 11:46 PM
Lights In The Sky: agreed (though the song was soundchecked)

Trent said something about it being too quiet a song (in reference to the assholes who like to yell things during quiet songs) but later got the courage to play it on the Wave Goodbye tour.

Jumprof
08-06-2012, 04:05 AM
I LOVE 10 Miles High and The New Flesh I don't know why those two tracks didn't make it onto the standard tracklist.. Imho The New Flesh fits quite good to the third version of the We're In This Together single. The single all works out with this track in the middle. But I'm not sure if I would like it on The Fragile CD.

AgentofChaos
08-06-2012, 08:06 PM
Need some help. Lost all my nin files. Was able to redownload everything I needed except one thing.

I absolutely LOVE the soundboard cut Another Version of the Truth gift 2 disc live cd. Except for whatever reason they used the Victoria version of Terrible Lie instead of Portland, which is subtly different but in my mind, vastly better. I originally made my own mix with the Portland cut, except now I can't download Lights over Portland anywhere. No seeders.

If someone can seed on the bay, or pm me to send me just that specific track so I can recreate my mix, I would greatly appreciate it. Flac is preferred, but I am going to convert it regardless, so mp3 is fine too if you only have that. Thanks,

gorny540
08-07-2012, 08:32 PM
Driving out to Ohio (from New Jersey) last weekend I had to stop in Mercer, PA (home of Trent) as its right off of the highway, after a 5 minute detour through Mercer I fully understood where Trent's teenage angst came from.

FULLMETAL
08-07-2012, 09:52 PM
^^
Further Down The Spiral: pretty sure the title is not official. Too lazy to search, but I think the passes/posters/whetever memorabilia from that tour reads Self Destruct tour. And oh, the album happened a few months after said tour ended.

http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r110/soppingwetlabia/ScreenShot2012-08-07at105021PM.png

Leviathant
08-07-2012, 10:46 PM
See also http://nintourhistory.com/tours.php

Self Destruct Warm-up
Self Destruct Tour
Further Down The Spiral Tour
Alternative Nation Festival
Dissonance Tour
Fall 1995 Club Tour
Nights Of Nothing Tour

Ash512
08-09-2012, 05:58 AM
What about we all put The Fragile #1 on our Pitchfork lists?
http://pitchfork.com/news/47423-announcing-the-peoples-list-your-favorite-albums-since-pitchfork-began/

Indefinite_Cure
08-09-2012, 11:37 AM
What about we all put The Fragile #1 on our Pitchfork lists?
http://pitchfork.com/news/47423-announcing-the-peoples-list-your-favorite-albums-since-pitchfork-began/

I did the list, but sorry, The Fragile is #2 on my list...I just loved Sounds of the Universe THAT much!

frankie teardrop
08-09-2012, 12:34 PM
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r110/soppingwetlabia/ScreenShot2012-08-07at105021PM.png

i miss this shirt. this was my consolation prize for my mom not letting me to see the outside tour.

gorny540
08-10-2012, 12:00 AM
What about we all put The Fragile #1 on our Pitchfork lists?
http://pitchfork.com/news/47423-announcing-the-peoples-list-your-favorite-albums-since-pitchfork-began/

The Fragile is top of my list but I really didn't need to be convinced, http://peopleslist.pitchfork.com/list/56a254d0/ , my list really shows my lack of diversity, kind of just added whatever albums they had that were also in my itunes then ranked them

TheBang
08-10-2012, 12:33 AM
i miss this shirt. this was my consolation prize for my mom not letting me to see the outside tour.
I still have my original shirt, purchased Jan 5, 1995, at the Worcester show. The spiral and words are getting a little worn with age, but it still looks good, and I still wear it every once in a while.

BenAkenobi
08-10-2012, 05:00 AM
At ~ 50 seconds in album version of Right where it belongs there's an effect that feels like airplane taking off and keeps ascending until 3 minutes when it sort of reaches the "ceiling" (don't know correct english equivalent) and the earth slowly floats somewhere deep below. pity it doesn't stay there very long.

dlb
08-10-2012, 06:29 AM
I hate listening to my NIN bootlegs collection once in a while. Makes me miss seeing Trent and Co. on the stage to an unhealthy extent. I think I can safely say that even in 10 or 20 years from now THIS is the band I cared for the most and that has given me the most to drool over. I did not like everything and I even hated some, but damn these guys (all of them!) are great and I love every line-up for what it was!

AgentofChaos
08-12-2012, 08:34 PM
Need some help. Lost all my nin files. Was able to redownload everything I needed except one thing.

I absolutely LOVE the soundboard cut Another Version of the Truth gift 2 disc live cd. Except for whatever reason they used the Victoria version of Terrible Lie instead of Portland, which is subtly different but in my mind, vastly better. I originally made my own mix with the Portland cut, except now I can't download Lights over Portland anywhere. No seeders.

If someone can seed on the bay, or pm me to send me just that specific track so I can recreate my mix, I would greatly appreciate it. Flac is preferred, but I am going to convert it regardless, so mp3 is fine too if you only have that. Thanks,

Anyone? Would appreciate it big time. My youtube rip is simply not cutting it.

BenAkenobi
08-13-2012, 03:21 AM
i have it in mp3 http://www.sendspace.com/file/d72xne but have you tried this?
http://reflectinginthechrome.com/shows/2008/20081207.html
if download is too big i might extract one song for you later

AgentofChaos
08-14-2012, 08:35 AM
Perfect! Thanks, you've made me very happy.

Indefinite_Cure
08-20-2012, 08:33 AM
When I re-listen to the amazing Girl with the dragon tattoo soundtrack and I hear the quality of music in pieces like What if WE Could?, Parallel Timeline with Alternate Outcom, the two covers, and many others, I just can't fuckin' wait to hear what Trent did with HTDA and what he's up or may be up to with Nine Inch Nails...news are so slow right now. Give us a hint, a studio snippet...anything?...

Am I not a little greedy fucking pig fan? :D

wizfan
08-20-2012, 08:40 AM
I remember downloading a rip of an unauthorized CD called "Nine Inch Nails - The Interview" (I think). It ran for about half an hour (again: I think), and there were various interviews of Trent over some dumb "industrial" loops. Most of these interviews must have been from radio shows. Some of them were recorded from a shitty telephone connection, full of static and buzzing, making Trent's voice even more hard to listen to along with the stupid music in the background. People were actually selling this shit back in the day.

kercyx
08-21-2012, 05:15 AM
Is it bad to be still hoping for a Wave Goodbye DVD/blu ray ?... just to hear/see Ruiner, Heresy, etc with soundboard audio ( I know the hurricane festival has Heresy but it's only on the NIN Drive but I am still waiting for mine and it's killing me )

Harry Seaward
08-21-2012, 05:24 AM
Is it bad to be still hoping for a Wave Goodbye DVD/blu ray ?... just to hear/see Ruiner, Heresy, etc with soundboard audio ( I know the hurricane festival has Heresy but it's only on the NIN Drive but I am still waiting for mine and it's killing me )

Yeah, whatever happened to those onstage HD videos Rob had? I seem to remember him saying there were more, am I remembering right?

imail724
08-23-2012, 11:19 AM
Anyone see Trent is thanked in credits of the new black light burns album? Pretty cool.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

sheepdean
08-24-2012, 06:40 PM
Is it just me, or does Hans Zimmer have the same Skull lamp as Trent? http://www.rsvlts.com/2012/08/24/the-secret-lair-of-hans-zimmer/

wizfan
08-24-2012, 06:50 PM
Yeah, I've noticed that, too. I remember posting about it in Ye Olde ETS and a user (can't remember who) said "now we know the source of their powers".

r_z
08-29-2012, 04:53 PM
I think it's really awkward that someone posted their own interpretation/speculation on the concept behind "The Slip" on the ninwiki. Especially since it tries so hard to connect it to "Year Zero".

bwary
08-30-2012, 10:06 AM
I'd like this to be crawled and indexed by the Internet Archive Wayback Machine since it's not linked to on the site.
http://phm.nin.com/img/phm_wallpaper_iphone2.jpg
http://phm.nin.com/img/phm_wallpaper_iphone2_tn.jpg

Leviathant
08-30-2012, 11:10 AM
I think it's really awkward that someone posted their own interpretation/speculation on the concept behind "The Slip" on the ninwiki. Especially since it tries so hard to connect it to "Year Zero".

Edit that shit out.

Indefinite_Cure
09-05-2012, 02:21 PM
Where's teitan and what is he up to these days, news have been slow!

theimage13
09-06-2012, 12:30 PM
Super, super random: I wonder if Rob is going to check out Batman Live when it's in L.A.

sick among the pure
09-07-2012, 12:38 AM
So, browsing thedailywhat, and saw a posting
"Mohawked Robot Drummer of the Day (http://cheezburger.com/41283841)
Oh, yeah -- he also has four arms."
and legit thought it was going to be a video of Josh Freese.

wizfan
09-10-2012, 02:03 PM
Time for some NINerdiness:

Ever heard of the HDCD technology? It's a (rather wonky, in my opinion) technology which adds extra audio data to a CD for (sometimes) better audio quality. Usually, it adds four bits on the standard 16-bit depth, making it 20-bit. I think there's also some thing called "Super HDCD" which claims to make it 24-bit, but we'll skip that.

Anyway, the technology used to be fairly popular about a decade ago. The HDCD's play as regular 16/44 CD's on normal players, so a HDCD-compliant player is required to decode the extra signal. One of the most popular HDCD's is Tool's Lateralus. The technology is still used today, albeit only by annoying audiophiles (read: Neil Young).

Trent had used this technology on some releases during the Fragile era. I used foobar2000's HDCD decoder addon to scan NIN's FLAC discography for compliant tracks, and found that the TDTWWA single, as well as all We're In This Together singles, contain HDCD data (though I can't tell if they actually sound better). A track off The Fragile, "Into The Void", also lights up the HDCD indicator, as well as parts (I can't figure this out) of the following track, "Where is Everybody".

I believe all of this will be a moot point if Trent releases a 24-bit stereo version of The Fragile on a DVD/Blu-ray/stick, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

BenAkenobi
09-10-2012, 02:31 PM
Re: HDCD
i've used a decoder on all those mentioned and it made zero changes. probably false trigger is accidental bit combination.

marodi
09-11-2012, 08:37 PM
I saw this in NIN Spotting:


This is a video from the 'Sound City' documentary... it is a 30 second snippet of Trent's first musical memory.

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81T1ogFRsc4&feature=player_embedded)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81T1ogFRsc4

and I immediately thought of this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz42TcHxWrk

After all this years, the smile is still the same. Corny, I know but hey, news are slow.

seasonsinthesky
09-12-2012, 09:38 PM
Time for some NINerdiness:

Ever heard of the HDCD technology? It's a (rather wonky, in my opinion) technology which adds extra audio data to a CD for (sometimes) better audio quality. Usually, it adds four bits on the standard 16-bit depth, making it 20-bit. I think there's also some thing called "Super HDCD" which claims to make it 24-bit, but we'll skip that.

Anyway, the technology used to be fairly popular about a decade ago. The HDCD's play as regular 16/44 CD's on normal players, so a HDCD-compliant player is required to decode the extra signal. One of the most popular HDCD's is Tool's Lateralus. The technology is still used today, albeit only by annoying audiophiles (read: Neil Young).

Trent had used this technology on some releases during the Fragile era. I used foobar2000's HDCD decoder addon to scan NIN's FLAC discography for compliant tracks, and found that the TDTWWA single, as well as all We're In This Together singles, contain HDCD data (though I can't tell if they actually sound better). A track off The Fragile, "Into The Void", also lights up the HDCD indicator, as well as parts (I can't figure this out) of the following track, "Where is Everybody".

I believe all of this will be a moot point if Trent releases a 24-bit stereo version of The Fragile on a DVD/Blu-ray/stick, but I thought it was worth mentioning.

indeed, i investigated this with Sheepdean a couple years ago using the TDTWWA CD single. far as i could tell, it's basically the same as the Lateralus HDCD, which is to say that the grand effect is simply adding headroom above the already-clipped waveform - essentially making the music quieter, without actually adding anything where the extra bit depth would matter (the quietest sounds).

however, it might have something to do with the way Windows Media Player was ripping the HDCD information.

i didn't know the WITT singles had it too. hmmm...

scorpiusdiamond
09-13-2012, 06:55 PM
If anyone's a fan, it looks like Aaron North is finally resurfacing (https://twitter.com/whtgreyblk/status/114646043328655360). This makes me happy...
edit: Note that White/Grey/Black is the Aaron's current (?) project.

pcpunk
09-13-2012, 07:14 PM
ummm, that tweet is almost a year old.

botley
09-13-2012, 07:46 PM
That was supposed to be a record label of some kind, but the website never opened and I don't think I ever got email from their listserv. It's a shame that Aaron couldn't get his band Jubilee off the ground enough to put out a full-length album. What they did put out seemed pretty awesome. Dude just can't seem to keep his shit together solo.

pcpunk
09-13-2012, 08:14 PM
yeah, i had hopes for him. his first two releases were great, and i was looking forward to the album (also the fan-exclusive album/ep/whatever). haven't seen an update from him for quite some time. hope he's doing ok.

scorpiusdiamond
09-15-2012, 04:00 PM
Crap, here's me not looking at the date correctly.
Damn it Aaron, where did you go? I had the opportunity to see Jubilee live and they kicked ass. Erik (the other half of W/G/B) is active on Twitter but never mentions Aaron.

Endlessly
09-16-2012, 01:58 AM
Erik (the other half of W/G/B) is active on Twitter but never mentions Aaron.

Yeah, and a few weeks ago he was giving away the last of the W/G/B slipmats (inexplicably packaged in an Exmortus sleeve, at least in my case).

bgalbraith
09-16-2012, 02:41 AM
Not sure where this goes, but here seems reasonable.

I've managed to acquire a large number of poster images from the Live: With Teeth Tour. Here they are compiled into a collage for your enjoyment:

http://i.imgur.com/86YVu.jpg

BenAkenobi
09-16-2012, 04:23 AM
are these chronological?

dlb
09-16-2012, 08:52 AM
no, the war-themed posters only came in 2006. 2005 was albout the with_teeth inspired artwork (a personal fave of mine btw), while the very first 2005 posters were more in vain with the viral videos for the album (e.g. the line begins to blur).

they are all amazing and I could punch myself for never obtaining some of them. the ones on nin.com are good, but not the posters I was craving back then like the Cleveland one.

bgalbraith
09-16-2012, 01:17 PM
are these chronological?

These are in order by filename, starting with the lower left and snaking around up to the upper left. I can rearrange them to be in chronological order if you would want that.

sick among the pure
09-16-2012, 10:46 PM
no, the war-themed posters only came in 2006. 2005 was albout the with_teeth inspired artwork (a personal fave of mine btw), while the very first 2005 posters were more in vain with the viral videos for the album (e.g. the line begins to blur).

they are all amazing and I could punch myself for never obtaining some of them. the ones on nin.com are good, but not the posters I was craving back then like the Cleveland one.


I have the Cleveland poster, actually. And I would think about parting with it for a 2006 East poster for my first show in Erie.

jessamineny
09-17-2012, 08:20 PM
Copied from AAISAD thread, because it's off-topic

Something tells me that Trent & co. aren't too keen on releasing the final concert in its entirety. I think they'd rather select the top performances from that last run of gigs. Not to be a dick here, but there were very clear fuckups at the Wiltern, that weren't necessarily present at the previous gigs. It's like the focus was on the special guests, rather than on playing the best version of each song.

Concerts aren't about perfect experiences. (And actually, the imperfect is where the magic usually happens.) As a very small, concrete example: Know how TR -- unlike any other artist I've ever seen -- never lets photographers come out into the pit until well into the show? Not the first three songs when he's picture-perfect, but when the photos will be real.

The Wiltern show in its entirety is the documentation of a moment in NIN history, one with a lot of significance to fans (and, I'm sure, the band). To suggest that TR would be narcissistic and egocentric enough to not release it because of something you perceive as fatal fuckups... that seems fucked up to me.

FernandoDante
09-17-2012, 09:37 PM
Copied from AAISAD thread, because it's off-topic


Concerts aren't about perfect experiences. (And actually, the imperfect is where the magic usually happens.) As a very small, concrete example: Know how TR -- unlike any other artist I've ever seen -- never lets photographers come out into the pit until well into the show? Not the first three songs when he's picture-perfect, but when the photos will be real.

The Wiltern show in its entirety is the documentation of a moment in NIN history, one with a lot of significance to fans (and, I'm sure, the band). To suggest that TR would be narcissistic and egocentric enough to not release it because of something you perceive as fatal fuckups... that seems fucked up to me.
Not narcissistic. Just a desire to release a better product. Wasn't that the case with the multiple recordings on ATCHB? What about recording two nights for BYIT, and even then rumors of overdubbing it? Or providing footage from THREE concerts for AVOTT?

The moment in NIN history was real - for the people who were there. As you said, concerts are imperfect experiences, where the little changes tend to matter the most. A live release is not a concert. I'm all for capturing the best versions of the songs, which doesn't necessarily mean Numan singing Metal or Mike Garson playing wonderfully.

I'm not saying that all fuckups are bad - just not a huge fan of the ones that happened at the Wiltern. During the 2009 tour, the lack of Alessandro forced Trent to make up for little mistakes tremendously well, and from what I recall of those last few bootlegs, the best examples of that were during the pre-Wiltern gigs.

bwary
09-18-2012, 11:49 PM
These are in order by filename, starting with the lower left and snaking around up to the upper left. I can rearrange them to be in chronological order if you would want that.
missing some? (http://www.portraitofdecay.com/nin.com/tour/previous1.html)

scorpiusdiamond
09-19-2012, 07:40 AM
Just had the bright idea to get NIN on FLAC...
Only tried The Great Destroyer so far... hnnghghh...
Listening party is happening later.

sheepdean
09-21-2012, 04:46 AM
Disclaimer: I was bored


If NIN releases were children:
PHM is the first child, and is into all kinds of weird music that you've never heard of
Broken, being the second child, has to be angry and noisy to get any attention
TDS is the depressed teenager who works at McDonalds
The Fragile has a scholarship for piano playing, but wishes they were in a metal band
TFA is the accident child that you never really loved, but put up with just to keep up appearances
With Teeth watches MTV
YZ and YZR are identical twins, and though they swear they have many differences, no one can tell them apart
Ghosts is the kid that looks nothing like the father, but is a academic genius so no one mention's anything
The Slip is a baby that tries to emulate all of its siblings, but hasn't found its own voice yet

Big Fat Matt
09-21-2012, 11:43 AM
NIN.com blueballs aside, Happy Birthday, The Fragile! I KNEW there was a reason i kept the "OMG why is this like 8 discs long"/"ETS DE Fragile" playlist

somewhat_
09-22-2012, 06:47 PM
Reading the beginning of TR's news:

"Sorry for the radio silence lately... I've been busy! There's a number of things to be revealed over the coming months. Some you may expect, others you may not. Patience, my friends.

Today's news is about my band How To Destroy Angels.">>> etc.

Tell me I'm crazy, but the way I read it he is speaking about any project he may be working on in that first paragraph, not particularly HTDA.

I wouldn't be surprised if some NIN gets released in the near future. I'm not sure it will be any new material or it might be the The Fragile Deluxe and/or Wave Good Bye DVD. Thoughts?

gorast
09-22-2012, 07:59 PM
Reading the beginning of TR's news:

"Sorry for the radio silence lately... I've been busy! There's a number of things to be revealed over the coming months. Some you may expect, others you may not. Patience, my friends.

Today's news is about my band How To Destroy Angels.">>> etc.

Tell me I'm crazy, but they way I read it he is speaking about any project he may be working on in that first paragraph, not particularly HTDA.

I wouldn't be surprised if some NIN gets released in the near future. I'm not sure it will be any new material or it might be the The Fragile Deluxe and/or Wave Good Bye DVD. Thoughts?

I don't think we'll be getting anything NIN-related in the "near future" because it would most definitely eclipse the HTDA full length. If we're getting anything, it'll be probably mid 2013, and an announcement probably won't be until the beginning of 2013, after An Omen has had some time to breathe.

It's really weird talking about new HTDA now that we know what the release is going to be called. It's a good feeling.

jessamineny
09-22-2012, 08:45 PM
I don't think we'll be getting anything NIN-related in the "near future" because it would most definitely eclipse the HTDA full length. If we're getting anything, it'll be probably mid 2013, and an announcement probably won't be until the beginning of 2013, after An Omen has had some time to breathe.

I'm not sure. It seems like Omen serves at least a couple of purposes: to fulfill TR's promise to give us new HTDA music this year, and as a teaser to get people psyched about the full release in the spring. I don't know if the band would be too worried about other releases overshadowing Omen. In fact, if there were NIN releases (like the Fragile deluxe or Wave Goodbye DVDs) that got a lot of attention in between Omen and the LP, it might actually bring more attention to the HTDA releases.

BRoswell
09-22-2012, 09:43 PM
Was watching part of And All That Could Have Been earlier. Honestly, I think if Trent and Co. handed over the soundboard audio for the final show to the TOIOU guys and they edited the various camera angles that were shot by fans, you'd get a release that would be fairly similar in approach to AATCHB. As much as I'd love to see a professionally shot video, the almost chaotic nature of AATCHB seems more appropriate, and I think a release like that would be the best of both worlds. Fan created video, band created audio.

gorast
09-22-2012, 10:21 PM
I'm not sure. It seems like Omen serves at least a couple of purposes: to fulfill TR's promise to give us new HTDA music this year, and as a teaser to get people psyched about the full release in the spring. I don't know if the band would be too worried about other releases overshadowing Omen. In fact, if there were NIN releases (like the Fragile deluxe or Wave Goodbye DVDs) that got a lot of attention in between Omen and the LP, it might actually bring more attention to the HTDA releases.
That's definitely how I seen An Omen too, but I feel like the momentum would be derailed if they released something between Omen and the LP. Like, yeah, NIN releases would bring more attention to Trent's projects in general (which includes HTDA), but I can't help but feel that the casual fan would end up completely ignoring the LP because now they have The Fragile deluxe or the Wave Goodbye DVD to occupy themselves with.

I just feel like An Omen would serve its purpose much better if it was the only thing we got until the LP. That way, that's all we have to focus on until the LP comes out, because there's no way that An Omen could overshadow the LP.

joplinpicasso
09-23-2012, 05:59 AM
I know this technically isn't the right place, but damn, that new forum welcome page is hilarious/awesome.

hobochic
09-25-2012, 02:13 PM
Stumbled upon an album/EP cover (http://www.shemusic.org/insomnia/index.html)that reminds me of the original Bleedthrough artwork:

She - Insomnia:
http://www.shemusic.org/insomnia/shemusic-insomnia-cover.jpg

Bleedthrough:
http://rasmus.radioface.se/image/bleedthrough.jpg

Leman Russ
09-25-2012, 02:45 PM
Bleedthrough:
http://rasmus.radioface.se/image/bleedthrough.jpg

I like this better than the final With_Teeth cover.

sheepdean
09-25-2012, 03:22 PM
I remember I asked Rob a while back for a print of it, he said the art was still owned by people, I wonder if, when Interscope decide to release Bleedthrough because they're broke, it'll come with a nice big poster.

Leviathant
09-25-2012, 03:23 PM
As much as I know that following The Fragile with a sci-fi concept album probably wouldn't have gone over as well (despite Year Zero killing it in that regard), I do kind of wish Bleedthrough happened instead of With Teeth. I liked the art direction better, and I seem to like the known-to-be-Bleedthrough-era songs best off W_T.

Edit: sheepdean, very interesting. The largest version I've found (http://www.ninwiki.com/images/f/fb/Bleedthrough.jpg) was on Rob's portfolio site, after chasing down the XML that feeds the Flash frontend.

sheepdean
09-25-2012, 03:31 PM
W_T always looks like an emo kid to me

joplinpicasso
09-25-2012, 03:59 PM
I wish I could have the best of both worlds - mix that Bleedthrough graphic with the gorgeous turquoises and teals of With Teeth.

sheepdean
09-25-2012, 04:18 PM
Edit: sheepdean, very interesting. The largest version I've found (http://www.ninwiki.com/images/f/fb/Bleedthrough.jpg) was on Rob's portfolio site, after chasing down the XML that feeds the Flash frontend.
Yeah, apparently it's owned by NIN, who at the time were of course "owned" by Interscope, so Trent has some of the rights, Rob probably has some, and there's a person at a desk in a skyscraper who has 1% of the rights and probably doesn't even know what an iPod is. #musicindustry

Leman Russ
09-26-2012, 07:18 AM
I wish I could have the best of both worlds - mix that Bleedthrough graphic with the gorgeous turquoises and teals of With Teeth.

I first read your statement as "gorgeous tortoises and seals of With Teeth", and was really confused. It could have lead to some interesting titles, though.
All The Doves In The World
Dogspots
Mites Where It Belongs

Vertigo
09-26-2012, 10:48 AM
I'll bet that was his original intention - there's a caged animal reference lurking in Right Where It Belongs. What if he was originally going to write a concept album about his favourite animals, with music built entirely from processed wildlife vocalisations? I can only imagine the pain and angst in the demo version of Love Is Not Enough, in which he sings about how much he'd adore a pet big cat, but can't have one because it'd be too dangerous.

We've all been there, Trent.


(I really need to come off these painkillers)

hobochic
09-26-2012, 10:54 AM
Ok, we need a new "Cuckoo" action on this board

http://www.flix66.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/One-Flew-Over-The-Cuckoos-Nest-Blu-ray-2.jpg

sick among the pure
09-26-2012, 11:03 AM
I first read your statement as "gorgeous tortoises and seals of With Teeth", and was really confused. It could have lead to some interesting titles, though.
All The Doves In The World
Dogspots
Mites Where It Belongs

I think I used to have a porpoise.

jrdsctt
09-26-2012, 11:09 AM
The Lions Begin to Blur

Leman Russ
09-26-2012, 11:09 AM
I'll bet that was his original intention - there's a caged animal reference lurking in Right Where It Belongs. What if he was originally going to write a concept album about his favourite animals, with music built entirely from processed wildlife vocalisations? I can only imagine the pain and angst in the demo version of Love Is Not Enough, in which he sings about how much he'd adore a pet big cat, but can't have one because it'd be too dangerous.

I mean, the first line of the album is "watching all the insects march along". It's pretty obvious.



I think I used to have a porpoise.

Awesome. Hats off to you

fillow
09-26-2012, 11:49 AM
I heard it was originally planned to end the album with the cover of Several Species of Small Furry Animals...

Leman Russ
09-26-2012, 12:00 PM
Every Ray Is Exactly The Same

snaapz
09-26-2012, 12:02 PM
I thought WT & Bleedthrough were the same thing? They decided on With_Teeth because Bleedthrough didn't sound right or can be misinterpreted.

Leman Russ
09-26-2012, 12:58 PM
Correct

I hate the 10 character limit. SO Stupid.

MAD
09-26-2012, 01:02 PM
The Lions Begin to Blur
I both liked and facepalmed your post!

WorzelG
09-26-2012, 01:29 PM
...., and I seem to like the known-to-be-Bleedthrough-era songs best off W_T.

Which ones were these? I had a look on the ninwiki but couldn't find any mention

gorast
09-26-2012, 01:54 PM
I thought WT & Bleedthrough were the same thing? They decided on With_Teeth because Bleedthrough didn't sound right or can be misinterpreted.
Yeah, I think some of the songs were shuffled around and tweaked to remove the overarching concept of the album. What we got is more or less what we were going to get.

DigitalChaos
09-26-2012, 02:24 PM
I'll bet that was his original intention - there's a caged animal reference lurking in Right Where It Belongs. What if he was originally going to write a concept album about his favourite animals, with music built entirely from processed wildlife vocalisations? I can only imagine the pain and angst in the demo version of Love Is Not Enough, in which he sings about how much he'd adore a pet big cat, but can't have one because it'd be too dangerous.

We've all been there, Trent.


(I really need to come off these painkillers)

This is 100% true. However, you missed the part about why he changed things. There was one wildlife vocal that he couldn't find a way to properly filter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdZ9weP5i68


Now you know who killed Bleedthrough

gorast
09-26-2012, 03:23 PM
This is 100% true. However, you missed the part about why he changed things. There was one wildlife vocal that he couldn't find a way to properly filter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdZ9weP5i68


Now you know who killed Bleedthrough
Just like she killed the Beatles.

There, now no one else has to make that joke.

jrdsctt
09-26-2012, 05:27 PM
I both liked and facepalmed your post!

That you did, that you did.

sick among the pure
09-26-2012, 06:07 PM
Awesome. Hats off to you



To be fair, that joke line has been used since the album first came out. Both in "misheard lyrics" threads and in the old photoshop thread here on ETS.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls2p2ySRi11qkfwf2o1_400.png
Hell, go a google image search for the phrase.

Big Fat Matt
09-26-2012, 11:06 PM
one of my co-workers said he had his girl over and she left the house with his red robe.

red robe.




there was a period of my life where i had forgotten about that picture. fml.

Leman Russ
09-27-2012, 07:24 AM
To be fair, that joke line has been used since the album first came out. Both in "misheard lyrics" threads and in the old photoshop thread here on ETS.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ls2p2ySRi11qkfwf2o1_400.png
Hell, go a google image search for the phrase.

True, but it still made me laugh. I had forgotten about his hidden and misheard love for dolphins.

Henrie_Schnee
10-06-2012, 08:27 AM
You know, Trent Reznor being at the forefront of a revolution in musical distribution is all sweet and dandy, but then again I kinda miss the olden days when his stuff would just leak at any random day, weeks before the release.

GibbonBlack
10-06-2012, 08:54 AM
You know, Trent Reznor being at the forefront of a revolution in musical distribution is all sweet and dandy, but then again I kinda miss the olden days when his stuff would just leak at any random day, weeks before the release.

and he'd then get all mad and spoil the end of good movies for people?

Henrie_Schnee
10-06-2012, 09:19 AM
and he'd then get all mad and spoil the end of good movies for people?

Indeed! I actually never saw the movie because of this. But in hindsight, listening to [With_Teeth] a month in advance strikes me as a good deal. But back on (some) topic: I'm looking forward to the single release an the ep... the old NIN-goosebums are still there.

Horican
10-06-2012, 03:05 PM
Indeed! I actually never saw the movie because of this. But in hindsight, listening to [With_Teeth] a month in advance strikes me as a good deal. But back on (some) topic: I'm looking forward to the single release an the ep... the old NIN-goosebums are still there.
I wasn't around here in 2005, could you please tell me what are you talking about? it sounds interesting

Henrie_Schnee
10-06-2012, 03:23 PM
I wasn't around here in 2005, could you please tell me what are you talking about? it sounds interesting

I'm not quiet sure anymore wether it was the radio-leak of "The Hand that feeds" in shitty quality or the leak of the complete "With Teeth" record, but anyway, Reznor posted a statement later that day where he would spoil the end of Clint Eastwoods "Million Dollar Baby", which was just released at that time.

So, when you now hear him in interviews saying something along the lines of "Well, I used to get mad when leaks happened, but then I realized why am I mad at these guys?", he's thinking back to that evening.

EDIT: Hihihi, gotta love the ninternet, it's still there:
http://www.ninwiki.com/images/2/26/2005_02_26Questions1.gif

blassster
10-06-2012, 03:32 PM
Edit:nevermind, see above! :)

Conan The Barbarian
10-06-2012, 04:05 PM
This is 100% true. However, you missed the part about why he changed things. There was one wildlife vocal that he couldn't find a way to properly filter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdZ9weP5i68


Now you know who killed Bleedthrough


What the fuck did I just watch here? And why the fuck are those people applauding?

MAD
10-09-2012, 03:13 AM
I miss TOTOM :(



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc3grEt9kBQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBi3TnxXM0s

sick among the pure
10-09-2012, 11:47 PM
MAD, why was the second one so awesome?

wizfan
10-09-2012, 11:53 PM
I loved how well the TPD drum break was mixed with Session. And I usually hate mashups.

somethingelse
10-10-2012, 06:23 AM
Does anyone know the origin of this little beauty? https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-74YqzAu7lZ0/UHVXmeFIziI/AAAAAAAAAd8/j2WVx_msbrc/w551-h714-p-k/154905_170584116309841_199706_n.jpg

MAD
10-10-2012, 06:24 AM
^ Meathead?


MAD, why was the second one so awesome?
Because you are awesome too.

GibbonBlack
10-10-2012, 06:55 AM
Does anyone know the origin of this little beauty?


I don't know for sure, but I'd bet it's from Meathead

henryeatscereal
10-10-2012, 09:10 AM
Does anyone know the origin of this little beauty?
It's Meathead's "Lights in the sky tour funbook", awesome stuff as usual

http://www.theninhotline.net/meatpers/html/mp080912.htm

Reaps
10-10-2012, 04:31 PM
Was thinking someone should get to work on a series of unofficial nin/related compilations. So much shit out there that would be cool to have together on a couple of cd's. or just to keep things neat on itunes/mediamonkey etc..

somethingelse
10-10-2012, 06:15 PM
^ That's a good idea.


It's Meathead's "Lights in the sky tour funbook", awesome stuff as usual

http://www.theninhotline.net/meatpers/html/mp080912.htm

Thank you for that :) I have heard of Meathead of course, but have not gone a searchin' for the history.

Frozen Beach
10-12-2012, 07:40 PM
Am I the only one who thinks The Great Destroyer is terrible? That cheesy 80's scream doesn't help it at all either. Much prefer the Modwheelmood remix.

BrokenSpiral
10-13-2012, 04:25 AM
I always thought the modwheelmood remix would have made a great Bond opening song.

sweeterthan
10-13-2012, 06:08 PM
I remember not liking TGD at first but it grew on me. I think the scream is supposed to be a bit cheesy and throw back-ish. I also love that it totally freaks out my aunt if she's in my car when it comes on.

dominik
10-13-2012, 06:12 PM
I actually think the scream and then the transition to noise is the best part of the song

scorpiusdiamond
10-15-2012, 04:57 PM
The breakdown is my ringtone, always fun in public.

fortheloveofgod
10-16-2012, 12:13 PM
I can't get over the amount of TR stuff that has gone as of late

HTDA EP and LP
Gaming soundtracksCall of Duty Black Ops 2 Theme
Beats Audio
Secret Studio work (Gary Numan)
New NIN
Telpathe Remix

r_z
10-16-2012, 01:42 PM
Yeah, we'll probably see "New NIN" not sooner than 2014.

NotoriousTIMP
10-17-2012, 10:03 AM
I can't get over the amount of TR stuff that has gone as of late

HTDA EP and LP
Gaming soundtracksCall of Duty Black Ops 2 Theme
Beats Audio
Secret Studio work (Gary Numan)
New NIN
Telpathe Remix

Beats Audio and Secret Studio work? Got anymore info on this?

Henrie_Schnee
10-17-2012, 12:55 PM
Reznor went back to the label infrastructure = Dylan went electric

WorzelG
10-17-2012, 05:13 PM
About the whole hero in the studio thing, what about Robert Smith / The Cure? I remember a tweet about Trent seeing them in LA and it reminded me of this interview (the para beginning Every city in America)

http://www.theninhotline.net/archives/articles/ap_97d_a.shtml

allegro
10-17-2012, 05:29 PM
He said we're not likely to guess this one, and that one is pretty obvious, so ... He said "experimenting" so the David Lynch speculation seems really off-the-wall weird and therefore plausible. David Lynch making music is the last thing *I'd* guess.

sheepdean
10-17-2012, 05:39 PM
He said we're not likely to guess this one, and that one is pretty obvious, so ... He said "experimenting" so the David Lynch speculation seems really off-the-wall weird and therefore plausible. David Lynch making music is the last thing *I'd* guess.
He is rumoured to be working on Lynch's daughter's upcoming film http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1621415/

Frozen Beach
10-17-2012, 05:58 PM
If David Lynch and Trent Reznor work together again, I seriously might blow into a million pieces because of the overwhelming awesomeness.

bgalbraith
10-17-2012, 06:51 PM
I'm in New Orleans for a conference, and happen to be staying within walking distance of the site of Nothing Studios. Gonna wander over there tomorrow before I fly out.

GoodSoldier333
10-17-2012, 07:29 PM
I'm in New Orleans for a conference, and happen to be staying within walking distance of the site of Nothing Studios. Gonna wander over there tomorrow before I fly out.

You should take pictures my good friend.

sweeterthan
10-17-2012, 10:27 PM
I'm in New Orleans for a conference, and happen to be staying within walking distance of the site of Nothing Studios. Gonna wander over there tomorrow before I fly out.
I did that when I was there in 2010. My friends & husband were nice enough to humor me and go with.

I snapped this one:
http://mobile.carrieclarkphotography.com/2010/10/formerly-nothing.html

I listened to with teeth today for the first time in a very long time. It's funny to get the chills from my "least favorite" nin album. I didn't expect that.

MAD
10-18-2012, 09:07 AM
If you're thinking what I'm thinking, then we're both going to hell for it!

[NSFW] http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/11okv5/boat_propellers_can_be_dangerous/

Reaps
10-18-2012, 09:29 AM
^Not so pretty hate machine..

Fixer808
10-18-2012, 09:31 AM
The breakdown is my ringtone, always fun in public. I miss my old phone,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDbpzjbXUZI
Ringtone started at 1:12.

NotoriousTIMP
10-18-2012, 09:52 AM
I miss my old phone,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDbpzjbXUZI
Ringtone started at 1:12.

That is the coolest ringtone....ever

hobochic
10-18-2012, 01:05 PM
I haven't followed the fan speculations on Trent's mystery lab partner, but I wouldn't mind it being:

Tom Waits – Junk, samplers and tape recorders. This should have happened a decade ago
Lou Reed – didn't Bowie once envision Trent remixing Metal Machine Music? (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/100-greatest-artists-of-all-time-19691231/nine-inch-nails-19691231)
Elvis Costello – I've always thought a cover of Oliver's Army would be insane


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVwrrkt22Ag

screwdriver
10-18-2012, 02:16 PM
I did that when I was there in 2010. My friends & husband were nice enough to humor me and go with.

I snapped this one:
http://mobile.carrieclarkphotography.com/2010/10/formerly-nothing.html



I did the same when I was in NOLA (about a year ago, actually). My now-wife was totally nice enough to humor me. Stopped and had a beer at the Buddha bar across the street, suddenly got the reference in the Fragile booklet. Its quite silly and I'm very aware of that, but it felt very neat to me to be able to see the place where my favorite album was made.

bgalbraith
10-18-2012, 02:47 PM
I did the same when I was in NOLA (about a year ago, actually). My now-wife was totally nice enough to humor me. Stopped and had a beer at the Buddha bar across the street, suddenly got the reference in the Fragile booklet. Its quite silly and I'm very aware of that, but it felt very neat to me to be able to see the place where my favorite album was made.

Only managed a quick walk by due to time constraints. Had The Fragile on while I walked there and back.

It's being converted to retail space. There was construction going on when I walked by. Looked fairly gutted.

botley
10-18-2012, 03:01 PM
I did the same thing! We were in town for Mardi Gras a couple years ago (this was right after NOLA had won the Superbowl) and my traveling companion was very amused that I had diverted our trip that far down on Magazine St. just to gawk at an empty building, haha.

sweeterthan
10-18-2012, 04:41 PM
Only managed a quick walk by due to time constraints. Had The Fragile on while I walked there and back.

It's being converted to retail space. There was construction going on when I walked by. Looked fairly gutted. I read about the retail conversion. Did you take any pics?

allegro
10-18-2012, 04:59 PM
203
Nothoney was there this past June and took this picture.

simonn
10-18-2012, 05:05 PM
We just got a new phone system at work, and I was going through the potential ring tones for my phone - the usual bland 5 or 6 note thing on repeat. Except one of them was a dead ringer for the intro for the Vessel Stevolectric mix from remix.nin.com (which appears to have vanished, thank god I downloaded it!). Had to have it!!

bgalbraith
10-18-2012, 07:10 PM
I read about the retail conversion. Did you take any pics?

I did manage to grab a few pictures on my phone. You can see them here: http://imgur.com/a/BBraH
The facade is now finished from the one allegro posted. They were working on the inside when I got there and had the doors open, so I was able to grab this (sadly fuzzy) shot of the staircase.
http://i.imgur.com/fu5FBs.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/fu5FB.jpg)

botley
10-19-2012, 10:02 AM
A little shitty to see yet another site of so many great recordings and stories turning over to a faceless retailer, but that's life I suppose.

allegro
10-19-2012, 10:36 AM
Yeah, what do you think it's like for us TDS fans? Or us Broken fans?

(At least one thing remains constant. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitsville_U.S.A.) Paul McCartney visited a few years ago and promptly touched the piano that has a giant sign above saying DO NOT TOUCH.)

konstantin
10-19-2012, 11:04 AM
A little shitty to see yet another site of so many great recordings and stories turning over to a faceless retailer, but that's life I suppose.

if the Oatmeal was a fan he could have raised money to turn it into a NIN museum!

eversonpoe
10-19-2012, 12:15 PM
if the Oatmeal was a fan he could have raised money to turn it into a NIN museum!

i can not wait for my Tesla Museum goodies...and to eventually go visit the Tesla Museum!!!

sweeterthan
10-19-2012, 03:21 PM
I did manage to grab a few pictures on my phone. You can see them here: http://imgur.com/a/BBraH
The facade is now finished from the one allegro posted. They were working on the inside when I got there and had the doors open, so I was able to grab this (sadly fuzzy) shot of the staircase.
http://i.imgur.com/fu5FBs.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/fu5FB.jpg)
Is the gate still there? I couldn't tell from your wide shot but you posted a close up of the gate too.

frankie teardrop
10-19-2012, 04:04 PM
Only managed a quick walk by due to time constraints. Had The Fragile on while I walked there and back.

It's being converted to retail space. There was construction going on when I walked by. Looked fairly gutted.


I did the same thing! We were in town for Mardi Gras a couple years ago (this was right after NOLA had won the Superbowl) and my traveling companion was very amused that I had diverted our trip that far down on Magazine St. just to gawk at an empty building, haha.


guilty as charged. did this in 2007 or so as well. even took a photo of myself in front of the gate. will try and find it.

Incendiary Lover
10-20-2012, 01:12 AM
I'm in New Orleans for a conference, and happen to be staying within walking distance of the site of Nothing Studios. Gonna wander over there tomorrow before I fly out.

I just returned from the SFN conference that ended on Wednesday... does that happen to be the meeting you attended?

Wandering down Toulouse St, and exploring St Louis Cemetery while listening to Still was totally appropriate.

wizfan
10-20-2012, 01:30 AM
if the Oatmeal was a fan he could have raised money to turn it into a NIN museum!

Hah! Actually, Inman is a good friend of Rob Sheridan. He even made a drawing of Rob as a dinosaur once.

bgalbraith
10-20-2012, 07:33 AM
I just returned from the SFN conference that ended on Wednesday... does that happen to be the meeting you attended?

Wandering down Toulouse St, and exploring St Louis Cemetery while listening to Still was totally appropriate.

Indeed it was. SfN is insane as far as academic conferences go. I must have walked several miles over the course of it for just the poster sessions alone.

joplinpicasso
10-21-2012, 11:43 AM
This is one of my favorite NIN covers, and something I found on MySpace a looong time ago:
http://www.herohill.com/2007/12/word-on-beat-jon-jackson-vs-nine-inch.htm

joeyjojo
10-26-2012, 05:59 AM
I was listening to In This Twilight live compilation the other day (the one that compiles all songs performed during 2005-07) and totally forgot about We're In This Together. And when it suddenly started... HOLY SHIT. I know it was really hard to sing live, but why didn't they play it a little more? They played Last a lot and I remember him saiying that it's also hard to sing. (Yeah I know they changed the key). I think that to really enhance the song (WITT) live, they should've add one more guitar layer during the solo part. Trent doesn't sing there anyway.

I can't find any other references to it on the forum so will start here. A few chunks of my torrent of this ("nine inch nails - In This Twilight (Live 2005-2007) FLAC") got messed up and I'm stuck on 98.2%. Can somebody please seed the last little bit?

Highly Psychological
10-28-2012, 06:04 PM
Listened to Year Zero for first time in ages other day.......The lyrics to Vessell from Year Zero......sounds like a track about a homosexual relationship under an oppressive tyrannical government. Thats the most obvious assumption to my ears? And the effect this has on a persons faith? I suppose you can interpret in any way you want to. But the lyrics make a hell of a lot more sense when using a homosexual context. I know Trent is not gay, but that album covers many themes about being enslaved by some sort of system and being liberated, Vessell so happens to be the track that covers themes about standing up for an alternative type of love? And fighting for individuality. Etc. Lyrics on Year Zero are Trents best i think.

wizfan
10-28-2012, 06:18 PM
To me, Vessel always was about a character leading themselves to drug overdose so that the government couldn't capture and torture them. "My God, can it go any faster? I don't think I can last here" could refer to the drugs taking effect, and the instrumental outro symbolizes the slow and painful death. That's my take on it. Never thought it could be about homosexuality (though Meathead did make this connection once...).

cashpiles (closed)
10-29-2012, 02:04 AM
I've long suspected Trent of being somewhat of a charlatan. I believe he played up some of his psychological weaknesses to attract a certain market. Also, to say that Trent wa doing this purely for the art of it would be a lie as he obviously cares about profits.

sweeterthan
10-29-2012, 10:38 AM
I thought I read somewhere that "Vessel" is about two personalities inside one mind that's being taken over by drugs called parepin and opal. In year zero, parepin was in the water and opal was a recreational drug. The person in vessel is experiencing reactions from both drugs. I have always interpreted the noisy outro of the song to be one of the personalities winning out over the other.

BRoswell
10-29-2012, 01:28 PM
I've long suspected Trent of being somewhat of a charlatan. I believe he played up some of his psychological weaknesses to attract a certain market. Also, to say that Trent wa doing this purely for the art of it would be a lie as he obviously cares about profits.

Heaven forbid an artist cares whatsoever about making money. I guess the only REAL artists are the ones that do it for free.

I think we all dream about doing what we love AND making money while doing it, including Trent. Does that make him less of an artist? No. In fact, I'd say that makes him very human. There ARE people who only care about making money, with no concern over the quality of the work they are putting out, but Trent isn't one of them.

r_z
10-29-2012, 02:59 PM
Yeah, I don't think cashpiles was making an accusation.

I kind of noticed that too... all the talk about his weaknesses gets pretty repititive when reading a couple of interviews from a certain era. I guess he/they laid out some kind of plan about what he'd talk about in those interviews (he sometimes even used the exact same phrases or sentences, etc..). That being said, I think, there's nothing wrong with it. Trent always stroke me as someone who's rather in control of things. So this makes perfectly sense.
Also I wouldn't go as far as calling him a charlatan, since some of his "weaknesses" surely happend, but I'm also sure, he embraced them publicly for matters of promoting his music and creating a certain "dark" persona.

BRoswell
10-29-2012, 03:50 PM
On stage he might have played it up, but I think he was sincere when he wrote those songs and when he spoke in interviews. I remember reading Saul Williams talk about one of the songs on NiggyTardust and how he "raped" his life for arts sake, and I feel that Trent is probably the same way. After all, for as transparent as Trent has been with his fans, there's probably a lot we DON'T know about him.

thefragile_jake
10-29-2012, 10:21 PM
Been watching a lot of old YouTube videos of the concerts I had been to and I've been really bumming on the fact that there could possibly never be another NIN tour again. I think we were completely spoiled from 2005-2009 on NIN live that we kind of took it for granted. I know I sure did, I've only had the chance to see the band 3 times in 2005, 2008 and 2009 respectively. I had the chance to see them again in Columbia in 2008 (with fuckin Boris nonetheless, one of my favorite bands) but plans didn't work out. I was going to see them again in 2009 at Aragon Ballroom but I made the stupid mistake of thinking "Well, I'll just skip presale and get the tickets when they go on sale..." and they all ended up selling out through presale. I wasn't thinking obviously.

I just realized that no artist has a more collective body of work and material that I know and appreciate more than Trent Reznor and basically anything Nine Inch Nails related (I mean, I've been on a steady NIN kick again recently and I can't stop listening to Things Falling Apart)...I just hope we get another chance to experience this music again live...and not through maybe How to Destroy Angels throwing in a NIN cover for live material sake...I mean Nine Inch Nails again live. I won't hold my breath for awhile but I sure hope it happens before the end of this decade.

sick among the pure
10-30-2012, 03:53 AM
On stage he might have played it up, but I think he was sincere when he wrote those songs and when he spoke in interviews. I remember reading Saul Williams talk about one of the songs on NiggyTardust and how he "raped" his life for arts sake, and I feel that Trent is probably the same way. After all, for as transparent as Trent has been with his fans, there's probably a lot we DON'T know about him.

From stories I've been told, I am sure that there are a lot of things fans don't know. And I'm completely fine with that. He can be sincere and open and raw in his music, perform like a fucking boss, and still have a private life.

Zipfinator
10-30-2012, 04:05 AM
I was going to see them again in 2009 at Aragon Ballroom but I made the stupid mistake of thinking "Well, I'll just skip presale and get the tickets when they go on sale..." and they all ended up selling out through presale. I wasn't thinking obviously.


Actually they didn't all sell out in presale, unless I'm confusing sales. I was in the first 500 for the presale for the 8/29 show and a few weeks later more tickets went on sale and I got a pair for 8/28 then.

SM Rollinger
10-30-2012, 12:30 PM
I agree with Jake a couple posts back, in regards to the touring from 05-09. i only saw nin once during that period, and that was during the lights in the sky tour. the closest they came to me on the ninja tour was kansas city and i kick myself to this day for not going, because they opened that show with now im freakin nothing (favorite song from phm era).

aside from the lits tour, the only other time i saw em was back in 2000 on fragility 2.0, in minneapolis. april 17th if i remember correctly, because maynard (apc opened) said something to the effect of "its my birthday, and if you want to do someting for me, go home after the show, put on an elton john record, and masturbate till you pass out"

they played my hometown on sioux falls back in the day on the 2nd leg of the self destruct tour, but i was in middle school at the time and dint really listen to any music at all. i know that show was a film date too, along with omaha, and i can tell they used some of the footage from that show in the live medly of eraser/hurt/wish on closure from the wide shots. totally the sioux falls arena.

oh well, im sure once tr gets back into the groove of performing with htda, itll only be a matter of time before we get another nin tour. thats how it always happens, said artist 'retires' from playing live, gets talked into doing a festival or short tour, and gets bitten by the "performance" bug.

allegro
10-30-2012, 12:52 PM
I think most artists enjoy performing.

It's the monotonous TOURING that is supposedly mostly no fun.

Unless you're Sting and you use private jets and schedule 3-day breaks between each show and you take your brood and three nannies with you during a school break.

(Or you only do, say, 5 shows and that's it for the year.)

Trains
10-30-2012, 01:43 PM
On stage he might have played it up, but I think he was sincere when he wrote those songs and when he spoke in interviews. I remember reading Saul Williams talk about one of the songs on NiggyTardust and how he "raped" his life for arts sake, and I feel that Trent is probably the same way. After all, for as transparent as Trent has been with his fans, there's probably a lot we DON'T know about him.

I've always thought Trent's stage act is quite sincere and I doubt he has to play it up much. I'm sure I've heard him say in the past that playing certain songs takes him back to the place he was when he wrote them. And I imagine that was one of the main reasons he decided to stop touring; you know, if he was getting married and planning a new life around that then I can't imagine him wanting to keep playing all these songs that make him feel shit on stage. And his recent work with HTDA and Atticus has certainly been a lot less aggressive and angsty. I kind of doubt we'll see NIN again as they were, and if they do tour again I think Trent will pull a 'Bowie' and resign from playing most (if not all) of the old songs. TBH I can't really imagine him wanting to go back to singing songs that are potentially going to bring up a lot of old shit for him.

(Not that I wouldn't kill for a chance to see them play And All That Could Have Been live........)

botley
10-30-2012, 03:02 PM
Bowie didn't really stop playing old songs (http://bowiesongs.tumblr.com/post/29900916399/did-bowie-really-retire-his-oldies), he just paused his solo career to work with Tin Machine (which pointedly ignored his back catalogue). Eventually, he went back to conventional touring after a couple of years, beginning with the 1995 Outside/NIN tour, though for a while after that his band played old tunes as revamped arrangements to better fit in with the then-contemporary music he was making. Maybe HTDA will do the same with NIN's old stuff, la the 2006 radio show sessions with Peter Murphy.

wizfan
10-30-2012, 03:22 PM
Or like Devin Townsend did with the Retinal Circus performance a few days ago. He had disbanded Strapping Young Lad six years ago, yet he did bring SYL guitarist Jed Simon as a surprise guest performer for the night and they played two SYL songs along with the rest of the Devin Townsend Project band.

thefragile_jake
10-30-2012, 07:15 PM
Actually they didn't all sell out in presale, unless I'm confusing sales. I was in the first 500 for the presale for the 8/29 show and a few weeks later more tickets went on sale and I got a pair for 8/28 then.

I think you may have been confusing sales, of course I don't want to put words in your mouth or anything. I just remember thinking I would just get my girlfriend and I at the time's hotel that Friday that the presale happened and the next thing I knew, that Saturday when I was checking out ETS everyone was talking about how all the tickets were gone. I remember being really pissed off at this as it's been something I never forgave myself for. haha. I had to cancel the hotel and everything.


I agree with Jake a couple posts back, in regards to the touring from 05-09. i only saw nin once during that period, and that was during the lights in the sky tour. the closest they came to me on the ninja tour was kansas city and i kick myself to this day for not going, because they opened that show with now im freakin nothing (favorite song from phm era).

aside from the lits tour, the only other time i saw em was back in 2000 on fragility 2.0, in minneapolis. april 17th if i remember correctly, because maynard (apc opened) said something to the effect of "its my birthday, and if you want to do someting for me, go home after the show, put on an elton john record, and masturbate till you pass out"

they played my hometown on sioux falls back in the day on the 2nd leg of the self destruct tour, but i was in middle school at the time and dint really listen to any music at all. i know that show was a film date too, along with omaha, and i can tell they used some of the footage from that show in the live medly of eraser/hurt/wish on closure from the wide shots. totally the sioux falls arena.

oh well, im sure once tr gets back into the groove of performing with htda, itll only be a matter of time before we get another nin tour. thats how it always happens, said artist 'retires' from playing live, gets talked into doing a festival or short tour, and gets bitten by the "performance" bug.

Yeah, I was only 13 when they came to St. Louis for the Fragility tour and although I would discover and love the band incredibly just a year later I don't think my parents were too okay with most of the lyrical content enough to take me to a concert where their 13 year old son would be yelling "STARFUCKERS!!". I have amazing parents though, haha.

I really hope that after this HTDA stuff that Trent does get bitten by a "performance" bug, even if it's not a full tour and only a couple of cities...I will make damn sure that I travel and get to see NIN live one more time. Rollinger, the KC show was pretty amazing...although I wish I would've been able to hear more rarities from that tour like Metal, Americans and such it was really awesome to get Now I'm Nothing, (which in every YT video of the song you can hear my warrior cry of excitement when the drums kick in), Piggy (Nothing Can Stop Me Now), The Becoming, Way Out Is Through and Physical..

blassster
10-31-2012, 04:49 PM
Most of the Quake OST could be good to have playing in your front porch tonight for atmosphere.

Virtua Afro DJ
10-31-2012, 04:59 PM
Most of the Quake OST could be good to have playing in your front porch tonight for atmosphere.
I actually did that one year. Good times.

Bluegirl
10-31-2012, 10:12 PM
I've long suspected Trent of being somewhat of a charlatan. I believe he played up some of his psychological weaknesses to attract a certain market. Also, to say that Trent was doing this purely for the art of it would be a lie as he obviously cares about profits.
That is not called being a charlatan. That is called not being a complete moron. Only morons share every aspect of themselves with the world. And is it really something to figure out. He has said in many interviews that most of the happier and positive parts of his life he keeps to himself. And people who do art purely for art without trying to make money don't have careers they have hobbies.

mfte
11-01-2012, 01:50 PM
I wish Trent had some in the studio type videos>

Virtua Afro DJ
11-02-2012, 12:24 AM
Or like Devin Townsend did with the Retinal Circus performance a few days ago. He had disbanded Strapping Young Lad six years ago, yet he did bring SYL guitarist Jed Simon as a surprise guest performer for the night and they played two SYL songs along with the rest of the Devin Townsend Project band.
That show was phenomenal, and he's already writing two more albums! Dude's a beast.

seasonsinthesky
11-02-2012, 10:40 AM
Bowie didn't really stop playing old songs (http://bowiesongs.tumblr.com/post/29900916399/did-bowie-really-retire-his-oldies), he just paused his solo career to work with Tin Machine (which pointedly ignored his back catalogue). Eventually, he went back to conventional touring after a couple of years, beginning with the 1995 Outside/NIN tour, though for a while after that his band played old tunes as revamped arrangements to better fit in with the then-contemporary music he was making. Maybe HTDA will do the same with NIN's old stuff, la the 2006 radio show sessions with Peter Murphy.

i love the rework of "The Man Who Sold the World" from those days. it's stunning.

and i think there are lots of recent NIN songs that would work as is for HTDA, but it'd also be interesting to see stuff redone like "Reptile" from the aforementioned 2006 radio sessions.

bgalbraith
11-02-2012, 12:56 PM
Our office decided to construct our own mini-golf course for the day. Each hole was themed - Key Hole, Fishing Hole, Loop Hole, etc. I, of course, made Head Like A Hole :D. Here are some pictures http://imgur.com/a/prze1

screwdriver
11-13-2012, 01:31 PM
the post about the deluxe fragile on the AMA just made me so happy. that is all.

icklekitty
11-13-2012, 01:41 PM
It's cute how so many people are asking when Broken and Closure will come out on DVD.

redshoewearer
11-13-2012, 01:47 PM
TR on reddit - 'cryptic additional comment: 2013'

henryeatscereal
11-13-2012, 01:54 PM
Im so glad, Trent is releasing The Fragile 5.1 Remixes, can't wait!

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/134vgv/i_am_trent_reznor_of_nine_inch_nails_and_how_to/

opal
11-13-2012, 01:59 PM
The segue from "Dick Laurent is dead" BRRRRRRRRT to the opening beat of Driver Down is awesome!!

dominik
11-13-2012, 02:01 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/134vgv/i_am_trent_reznor_of_nine_inch_nails_and_how_to/c70t4r2

this is why I love Trent so much

gorast
11-13-2012, 02:07 PM
I think my favorite so far was the question about YZ:

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/134vgv/i_am_trent_reznor_of_nine_inch_nails_and_how_to/c70tb7v

"staging an appearance of The Presence in real life" jesus christ trent

dominik
11-13-2012, 02:13 PM
I like how right now Trent is just fooling around with people

The Reason Being
11-13-2012, 03:25 PM
Rehearsals for two bands...

somewhat_
11-13-2012, 03:26 PM
NIN tour in 2013!

sheepdean
11-13-2012, 03:26 PM
Rehearsals for two bands...
omg, this means .... OPTION 30 REUNION TOUR!

witte
11-13-2012, 03:34 PM
Live rehearsal for two bands - involved in a song for QOTSA - NIN tour 2013
Now I understand that pic with Josh, Josh and Lohner ;)

r_z
11-13-2012, 03:45 PM
There can't possibly be a new NIN Tour without new music, right?

The Reason Being
11-13-2012, 03:50 PM
There can't possibly be a new NIN Tour without new music, right?

Of course, It'll be in support of Zoo Station & Tetsuo

ibanez33
11-13-2012, 03:51 PM
Either way, I'm going.

somewhat_
11-13-2012, 03:53 PM
There can't possibly be a new NIN Tour without new music, right?

It's quite possible since he didn't mention recording new NIN music in this comment:

Aside from destroy angel's new EP, what's next for you?


[–] (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/134vgv/i_am_trent_reznor_of_nine_inch_nails_and_how_to/#)trent-reznor (http://www.reddit.com/user/trent-reznor)[S (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/134vgv/i_am_trent_reznor_of_nine_inch_nails_and_how_to/)] 227 points 1 hour ago
A number of things. Tweaking some things for the HTDA full LP (coming in Spring), helping Josh out on a new QOTSA track, working with Roy, starting rehearsals for two bands.





But the Rolling Stone article is making me believe he might already have a new NIN album finished!

scorpiusdiamond
11-13-2012, 03:57 PM
I think the real question is:
Is "poop." the new "soon."...?

thefragile_jake
11-13-2012, 04:28 PM
Originally I was thinking that the cryptic "2013" might be addressing what How to Destroy Angels might be doing for a full show experience...but the fact that it was addressed during a Lights in the Sky/Nine Inch Nails question has me all excited!

scorpiusdiamond
11-13-2012, 04:36 PM
Um, you know QOTSA are coming back next year...
and Trent worked on a QOTSA song...
I missed that tour, being the uninformed teenager that I was... could we hope for it to return, with Grohl in tow?

ibanez33
11-13-2012, 05:15 PM
If Trent and Dave tour with QOTSA I will fucking die.

jrdsctt
11-13-2012, 07:33 PM
Simply be responding with the words "Yes please." before anyone else could comment on one of Trent's responses on his AMA, my reddit comment karam jumped up into the thousands.

Shnoorum
11-13-2012, 09:38 PM
I posted a few question to Trent but sadly no answer. One in particular is killing me. I'm almost positive it's a no but does anyone know if this actually has anything to do with NIN? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4bsEgZrw-Y

Heard it ages ago and ever since I've been trying to track down who in the hell did it. It sounds similar to Trents style but I reeeeeeeeally doubt it is. I'd say it sounds more like Boards of Canada to NIN to be honest. 100% confirmation would be nice though. Maybe someday I'll find out who the hell did it...

BRoswell
11-13-2012, 09:58 PM
I posted a few question to Trent but sadly no answer. One in particular is killing me. I'm almost positive it's a no but does anyone know if this actually has anything to do with NIN? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4bsEgZrw-Y

Heard it ages ago and ever since I've been trying to track down who in the hell did it. It sounds similar to Trents style but I reeeeeeeeally doubt it is. I'd say it sounds more like Boards of Canada to NIN to be honest. 100% confirmation would be nice though. Maybe someday I'll find out who the hell did it...

As far as I know, that's an original instrumental that somebody posted on the remix site.

Leviathant
11-13-2012, 10:03 PM
Heard it ages ago and ever since I've been trying to track down who in the hell did it. It sounds similar to Trents style but I reeeeeeeeally doubt it is. I'd say it sounds more like Boards of Canada to NIN to be honest. 100% confirmation would be nice though.

Allow me to say with conviction: I can confirm with 100% certainty that this has nothing to do with Trent Reznor.

Shnoorum
11-13-2012, 10:07 PM
As far as I know, that's an original instrumental that somebody posted on the remix site.

I suppose that makes sense. Would easily be mistaken somewhere along the lines through chinese whispers. I remember finding it uploaded there by one of the users but the date it was uploaded to the NIN remix site was after the track was uploaded to youtube although It's entirely possible that its from someone else on the site and that person just stole it for credit. Regardless, it's a very pretty track


Allow me to say with conviction: I can confirm with 100% certainty that this has nothing to do with Trent Reznor.

Thank you sir. I was always pretty certain that was the case but a good ol' 100% confirmation never hurt. Almost became obsessed with finding out who did it when I first heard it. Gonna have to trawl through remix.nin to see if I can find the original uploader at some point

ImTheWiseJanitor
11-13-2012, 10:48 PM
Live rehearsal for two bands - involved in a song for QOTSA - NIN tour 2013
Now I understand that pic with Josh, Josh and Lohner ;)

I can't be the only one who read the "QOTSA - NIN tour 2013" part and had to re-read it like, 4 times. My heart completely stopped for a second there.

WorzelG
11-14-2012, 12:39 AM
Since there's a trend to play albums in full live, I'm going with a tour of 'the fragile' all the way through to coincide with fragile deluxe because I just want it to happen!

MAD
11-14-2012, 02:39 AM
Am I the only one who thinks this was more a publicity stunt than an AMA? I mean, 22 answers only? Make that 21.

sheepdean
11-14-2012, 02:51 AM
Am I the only one who thinks this was more a publicity stunt than an AMA? I mean, 22 answers only? Make that 21.
yeah, for an AMA, it was rather short and uninformative

WorzelG
11-14-2012, 03:17 AM
I prefer the Digg Dialog format where questions are chosen and asked - no cherry picking what you want to answer

Fixer808
11-14-2012, 03:45 AM
yeah, for an AMA, it was rather short and uninformative
Hey everyone, who remembers "soon..."?! Freakin' wealth of information jamberoo where Rez-bot is concerned.

dominik
11-14-2012, 05:01 AM
I wanted him to answer the sandwich-question. :(

and mine of course (which music he likes lately)

acidpolly
11-14-2012, 06:02 AM
not sure if I wanna (travel to) see HTDA live so really curious what that second band is.

icklekitty
11-14-2012, 06:13 AM
If Trent and Dave tour with QOTSA I will fucking die.

It'd be leaps and bounds ahead of that NINJA rubbish.

simonn
11-14-2012, 07:02 AM
It's quite possible since he didn't mention recording new NIN music in this comment:

Aside from destroy angel's new EP, what's next for you?


[] (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/134vgv/i_am_trent_reznor_of_nine_inch_nails_and_how_to/#)trent-reznor (http://www.reddit.com/user/trent-reznor)[S (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/134vgv/i_am_trent_reznor_of_nine_inch_nails_and_how_to/)] 227 points 1 hour ago
A number of things. Tweaking some things for the HTDA full LP (coming in Spring), helping Josh out on a new QOTSA track, working with Roy, starting rehearsals for two bands.

Sorry if it's a dumb question, but who the hell is Roy?

ghostaustin
11-14-2012, 07:25 AM
according to this: http://www.hitfix.com/news/trent-reznor-and-dave-grohl-working-on-new-queens-of-the-stone-age-album

Roy Bennet is NIN's tour producer

jessamineny
11-14-2012, 07:43 AM
Roy Bennett, lighting designer (http://livedesignonline.com/concerts/nine_lives_1008/)

Also, I really hope TR goes back to a five-piece band.

r_z
11-14-2012, 07:51 AM
It's quite possible since he didn't mention recording new NIN music in this comment:

Aside from destroy angel's new EP, what's next for you?


[] (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/134vgv/i_am_trent_reznor_of_nine_inch_nails_and_how_to/#)trent-reznor (http://www.reddit.com/user/trent-reznor)[S (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/134vgv/i_am_trent_reznor_of_nine_inch_nails_and_how_to/)] 227 points 1 hour ago
A number of things. Tweaking some things for the HTDA full LP (coming in Spring), helping Josh out on a new QOTSA track, working with Roy, starting rehearsals for two bands.





But the Rolling Stone article is making me believe he might already have a new NIN album finished!

Yes. Plus: I remember him saying in interviews about The Slip that he got into making this album because he at least wanted to have a new song or EP out for the run of shows he had already booked (which became the LITS tour). Also, we know he's been in the studio with Alessandro and Atticus while HTDA's debut was already (almost) finished by the beginning of the year. It certainly would feel strange if he'd start touring again with the exact same batch of songs as last time - especially considering his words from said Rolling Stone article: "I never said that that wasn't going to happen, just that it couldn't go on as it was."

jessamineny
11-14-2012, 07:55 AM
Yeah, he'll have a hard enough time explaining why he's going back out on tour less than four years later. (Not that *I* will complain.) There will have to be new music backing a tour.

Chuck
11-14-2012, 09:29 AM
I'd hope for not just new music, but a completely different way of presenting NIN. Trent mentione once about how he wanted to tour Europe with a string quartet. Something like tha, or something equally different and fresh, would be really good. To bring back a relatively similar version of NIN, so soon after saying an indefinite good bye, would be a bit anti-climatic I think.

sukey
11-14-2012, 09:39 AM
If Trent and Dave tour with QOTSA I will fucking die.
I highly doubt this will happen, but if it did, I swear I would stop at NOTHING to go to one of the shows.

Highly Psychological
11-14-2012, 10:46 AM
I want Dave to tour with NIN for a bit, Dave plus Robin Finck, Danny Lohner, Allesandro Cortini, that would be a powerful line up!

witte
11-14-2012, 12:03 PM
I'd hope for not just new music, but a completely different way of presenting NIN. Trent mentione once about how he wanted to tour Europe with a string quartet. Something like tha, or something equally different and fresh, would be really good. To bring back a relatively similar version of NIN, so soon after saying an indefinite good bye, would be a bit anti-climatic I think.
Same thoughts here. Everyone talks about the past, refers new songs with old songs. Please...., the past was another era with other emotions.
Look to the future exploring new things, new sounds and new limits.

simonn
11-14-2012, 12:50 PM
Ghostaustin and jessamineny - thanks for your replies.:D

icklekitty
11-14-2012, 02:01 PM
Trent mentione once about how he wanted to tour Europe with a string quartet.


Ooh yes. At the Royal Albert Hall. Picture that.

Turning up to the venue when doors open, sitting down, wearing heels, and still being able to see the stage. The Dream.

sick among the pure
11-14-2012, 04:43 PM
I'd hope for not just new music, but a completely different way of presenting NIN. Trent mentione once about how he wanted to tour Europe with a string quartet. Something like tha, or something equally different and fresh, would be really good. To bring back a relatively similar version of NIN, so soon after saying an indefinite good bye, would be a bit anti-climatic I think.

Fans have brought up the idea of a Trent + piano tour many times before, and I swear at one point (I think on The Spiral) he said he liked the idea. When he's too old to run around stage throwing guitar players into the crowd, I'd love to see a show like that.

opal
11-14-2012, 04:50 PM
Trent mentione once about how he wanted to tour Europe with a string quartet

Call me close-minded, but I'd hate to see that. Seems like a lost opportunity to see the real NIN.

However, I also hate the fact that Trent would probably pull this off in a way that you'd HAVE to go and see this because it would be so good.

Endlessly
11-14-2012, 04:56 PM
Throw in champagne and evening gowns... A black tie affair? le sigh

I can see it now: beautiful gowns, sharp suits...it'll all go so nicely, covered in cornstarch.

jessamineny
11-14-2012, 06:31 PM
When the Beastie Boys toured in 2007 for The Mix-Up, they would do two shows in each market. One night was a regular show in a large venue; the second night was in a concert hall setting with instrumentals, acoustics and stripped-down songs. For those "Gala Events," they encouraged people to "dress to impress," and some people really did show up in tuxes and evening gowns. I thought it was a really creative (and exciting) way to structure a tour.

butter_hole
11-14-2012, 08:02 PM
. Also, we know he's been in the studio with Alessandro and Atticus while HTDA's debut was already (almost) finished by the beginning of the year.
wasnt that for that remix thing they did?

jessamineny
11-14-2012, 08:33 PM
wasnt that for that remix thing they did?

Why would he call Ally into the studio to help remix one song for a minor band? It's more likely that they were all already working on something together when that came across his desk, and they teamed up on that, too.

BRoswell
11-14-2012, 08:44 PM
Why would he call Ally into the studio to help remix one song for a minor band? It's more likely that they were all already working on something together when that came across his desk, and they teamed up on that, too.

I don't see why he wouldn't do that, though. Maybe they asked them to do the remix and Trent thought it would be a good idea to bring him in on it (you can certainly hear his style on it). Sure, they might have worked on some other stuff (I'm sure Alessandro will be on the next Ghosts record), but it's not a definite thing.

redshoewearer
11-14-2012, 08:50 PM
Call me close-minded, but I'd hate to see that. Seems like a lost opportunity to see the real NIN.

However, I also hate the fact that Trent would probably pull this off in a way that you'd HAVE to go and see this because it would be so good.

Now might be a good time to view the Bridge School acoustic videos - I have always found them strange (in a medieval sort of sense, not negatively strange) and absolutely captivating.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3odA5MJ00oU (Non-Entity)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0-n4PO4JFc&list=PL0835977477965FC3&index=2&feature=plpp_video - Piggy - there's a lot of background noise, but just listening to this done with strings is pretty otherwordly.

There's more if you just search around.

marodi
11-14-2012, 09:08 PM
Fans have brought up the idea of a Trent + piano tour many times before, and I swear at one point (I think on The Spiral) he said he liked the idea. When he's too old to run around stage throwing guitar players into the crowd, I'd love to see a show like that.

I don't know how and I don't know when but I am going to get my "Trent and a piano" tour, damn it! That would have been my question on this AMA thing, had I got to it in time...

Frozen Beach
11-14-2012, 10:40 PM
Didn't Trent actually go into the studio and record those arrangements for an album they were going to do? I remember reading that. I wonder what happened...

Torgo
11-15-2012, 01:57 AM
I don't know how and I don't know when but I am going to get my "Trent and a piano" tour, damn it! That would have been my question on this AMA thing, had I got to it in time...

Well, if it makes you feel any better - when I did that interview with Trent once upon a time, he said he was very interested in that idea and that it would definitely be something that he would consider in the future. It was - by no means - something that was set in stone though.

sheepdean
11-15-2012, 02:05 AM
Well, if it makes you feel any better - when I did that interview with Trent once upon a time, he said he was very interested in that idea and that it would definitely be something that he would consider in the future. It was - by no means - something that was set in stone though.
Don't bring that up again dammit

simonn
11-15-2012, 06:59 AM
Well, if it makes you feel any better - when I did that interview with Trent once upon a time, he said he was very interested in that idea and that it would definitely be something that he would consider in the future. It was - by no means - something that was set in stone though.

Still gutted we never got to see/hear the results of that! Any other shareable titbits?

fillow
11-15-2012, 08:06 AM
I just missed a local Garbage show a few days ago. Turns out Justin-MJ was playing with them and I didn't even knew!

FULLMETAL
11-15-2012, 08:41 AM
I just missed a local Garbage show a few days ago. Turns out Justin-MJ was playing with them and I didn't even knew!

What?! When did JMJ replace Eric Avery?

fillow
11-15-2012, 09:30 AM
Nevermind, I'm an idiot. (So is a reporter whose review I happened to stumble across)

scorpiusdiamond
11-15-2012, 03:55 PM
Ugh, I may be a massive fan boy for him, but Aaron's guitar in this is just.... urnnfff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvTBgDTKIlU
Has anyone got any idea at all where he is right now and what he's doing? I miss that guy.

marodi
11-15-2012, 06:32 PM
Well, if it makes you feel any better - when I did that interview with Trent once upon a time, he said he was very interested in that idea and that it would definitely be something that he would consider in the future. It was - by no means - something that was set in stone though.

* grab the tiny shred of hope and hang on to it for dear life*

Thanks, Torgo!

Torgo
11-15-2012, 08:07 PM
Still gutted we never got to see/hear the results of that! Any other shareable titbits?

Nothing that isn't old news by now.

butter_hole
11-15-2012, 08:57 PM
such as...

Callahan
11-16-2012, 11:15 AM
I've been revisiting a lot of Clint Mansell's musical scores lately, and am always amazed at how awesome they are. I would love to see the outcome of a Clint and Trent collaboration.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa33P9A5iHs

this just gives me goose bumps.

ItsJustDave
11-16-2012, 11:32 AM
I would love to see the outcome of a Clint and Trent collaboration.

Trent is credited on World Traveler. If I recall correctly, with piano or keyboards.

Leviathant
11-16-2012, 12:11 PM
I've been revisiting a lot of Clint Mansell's musical scores lately, and am always amazed at how awesome they are. I would love to see the outcome of a Clint and Trent collaboration.

Ask and ye shall receive! Hehe. Renowned film composers, rocking out together in the 90s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZtXNgVIQHo

There's also Clint's remix of "You Know What You Are"

Conan The Barbarian
11-16-2012, 03:45 PM
My neighbor upstairs is either listening to Ghost I or watching the social network.

Endlessly
11-16-2012, 07:17 PM
In the wake of the Hostess shut-down news today:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdly5u3gTU1qa86ezo1_500.png (https://twitter.com/seanbeavan/status/269517908542115840)

FernandoDante
11-20-2012, 06:38 AM
I was having breakfast today, with a track from The Social Network stuck in my head, and while I took bites from the coxinha and the pastel, I thought of an alternate title for the track.

The Unmistakable Taste of Fried Goods

wizfan
11-20-2012, 04:30 PM
Ugh, I may be a massive fan boy for him, but Aaron's guitar in this is just.... urnnfff

Has anyone got any idea at all where he is right now and what he's doing? I miss that guy.

Jubilee just followed me back on Twitter, for some reason. Which means they're still using that @Jubilee_LA (https://twitter.com/Jubilee_LA?uid=36052959&iid=am-134278427213534501044725967&nid=23+112) account. Perhaps they're up to something...

buckaroo
11-21-2012, 09:51 AM
i really wish they would release a nice set of all of trent's remixes. even though i have most of them some are really difficult to find (vertigo/growing up) and it would be nice to have them on in one cool physical set.

sheepdean
11-21-2012, 11:04 AM
i really wish they would release a nice set of all of trent's remixes. even though i have most of them some are really difficult to find (vertigo/growing up) and it would be nice to have them on in one cool physical set.
I can imagine a bigger hassle for labels than releasing all of an artist's remixes onto one compilation - so many labels, ownerships and royalties to deal with!

dlb
11-22-2012, 10:25 AM
That Peter Gabriel mix is one of the best Trent has ever done. Another one of my favorite's is the Puff Daddy victory remix. Badass when Busta Rhymes comes in and it has Trent all over the place. Strange combo of styles, but it works somehow.