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Microwave Jellyfish
08-18-2014, 06:33 AM
Just found out that my interpretation of The Four of Us Are Dying's artwork - I always thought it's a pretty clear representation of four clocks - is not shared by NINwiki. Strange. Feels like I've been living a lie.

eversonpoe
08-18-2014, 02:08 PM
Just found out that my interpretation of The Four of Us Are Dying's artwork - I always thought it's a pretty clear representation of four clocks - is not shared by NINwiki. Strange. Feels like I've been living a lie.

that's how i've always seen it, too.

seasonsinthesky
08-18-2014, 03:43 PM
add it to the wiki, y'all!

sheepdean
08-18-2014, 04:17 PM
If that track isn't about the Twilight Zone then my life is a lie

hani
08-18-2014, 06:57 PM
I feel like The Slip would be a much better record if they didn't put Lights In The Sky, Corona Radiata, and The Four Of Us Are Dying in that order. Not that any one of those three are bad songs, particularly Lights In The Sky, but the record starts with a ton of momentum and then really slams on the brakes for almost 15 minutes.

no. just . . . no.

those three tracks, EXACTLY IN THAT ORDER, are what makes this album so great.

icecream
08-18-2014, 08:24 PM
I thought it was four coffins with the top part opened so you could see the dead people inside.

kleiner
08-18-2014, 08:43 PM
This is exactly why I like The Slip's artwork; it's so open to interpretation that everyone has their own take on something so simplistic looking that all give the song a different vibe or add a different layer to it.

Microwave Jellyfish
08-18-2014, 09:48 PM
If that track isn't about the Twilight Zone then my life is a lie
Well, some of the TZ openings did feature ticking clocks floating in space. ;] I think even the track's main beat reminds me of that sound... but that's just an interpretation. As kleiner said, it's ambiguous enough so everyone can have their own take on it.


no. just . . . no.

those three tracks, EXACTLY IN THAT ORDER, are what makes this album so great.
Yep, they are a good listen, and Demon Seed is one kick-ass ending. I really like The Slip, I just wish the first half would sound more like the Rehearsal versions.

GlitchyFlame
08-18-2014, 11:33 PM
Is it just me, or does The Hand That Feeds sound pretty similar to The Fight Song?

hani
08-19-2014, 05:33 AM
This is exactly why I like The Slip's artwork; it's so open to interpretation that everyone has their own take on something so simplistic looking that all give the song a different vibe or add a different layer to it.

I still think that TS has the best artwork in the whole NIN catalog. Rob is the best.

*edit* The Fragile comes 2nd, then Year Zero 3rd and honorable mention to PHM Remaster

fillow
08-19-2014, 06:03 AM
*cough* [With_Teeth] *cough*

tony.parente
08-19-2014, 06:17 AM
http://i.imgur.com/jatYg8K.jpg

Was going through trez' twitter and found this.
Made me lol

elevenism
08-19-2014, 07:19 AM
I finally read that Rolling Stone article (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/2863-NIN-Spotting-2014?p=206453#post206453). Ended with this quote: "The next incarnation might be limited in scale -- not presented as rock band Nine Inch Nails but something else, flipped on its head. That feels exciting to me. We'll see how it goes."

I wonder if he's thinking of just touring as Trent Reznor. The entire concert could be a mashup of NIN material, HTDA songs, soundtrack material. I would personally love that.
we've talked a little about that sort of thing you know?
i honestly think that it's inevitable. i REALLY think that trent will age gracefully, and i don't see him screaming fist fuck into his late sixties.
i want, and think that we will get, something like a Still tour.

martin_b
08-19-2014, 09:21 AM
I finally read that Rolling Stone article (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/2863-NIN-Spotting-2014?p=206453#post206453). Ended with this quote: "The next incarnation might be limited in scale -- not presented as rock band Nine Inch Nails but something else, flipped on its head. That feels exciting to me. We'll see how it goes."

I wonder if he's thinking of just touring as Trent Reznor. The entire concert could be a mashup of NIN material, HTDA songs, soundtrack material. I would personally love that.

So, in this case we need to create a new template for this future tour with "Trent Reznor and His Laptop 20xx Tour" as its title.

r_k_f
08-19-2014, 09:25 AM
this works quite well.. surprisingly. don't know where else to put it and it's pretty random sooooo......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMAA9zgXr0I

seasonsinthesky
08-19-2014, 10:04 AM
Is it just me, or does The Hand That Feeds sound pretty similar to The Fight Song?

it's just you.

tony.parente
08-19-2014, 10:20 AM
this works quite well.. surprisingly. don't know where else to put it and it's pretty random sooooo......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMAA9zgXr0I

Oh my god this is the most amazing cover/mashup/whatever i've ever heard involving any band ever.

eversonpoe
08-19-2014, 10:23 AM
this works quite well.. surprisingly. don't know where else to put it and it's pretty random sooooo......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMAA9zgXr0I

a couple of these guys are also in pelican. they did a 7" split with dust moth (also amazing)

r_k_f
08-19-2014, 11:22 AM
Oh my god this is the most amazing cover/mashup/whatever i've ever heard involving any band ever.

it's stuck in my head.... can't get it out. listening to it like 10x this morning didn't help. lol

r_k_f
08-19-2014, 11:57 AM
I got my learn on today.
Never knew.
http://i57.tinypic.com/aa860l.jpg

ManOfAtom
08-19-2014, 12:13 PM
a couple of these guys are also in pelican. they did a 7" split with dust moth (also amazing)

Aeges old drummer is in Pelican, but he's left Aeges now.

Halo Infinity
08-19-2014, 04:31 PM
@jezstyle (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=260) @october_midnight (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=288) @kleiner352 (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=4417) @tony.parente (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=2107)

It seems like The Slip and Hesitation Marks on Provider Module are exactly what Eat Me, Drink Me and The High End of Low are on Echoing the Sound. It also seems like you can say that there's some fans on Provider Module that look at With Teeth the way some fans also looked at The Golden Age of Grotesque on Echoing the Sound. I still can't help but find that interesting or even ironic, as I've frequented both forums.

*I didn't know where else to put this because I didn't feel like it warranted a bump for the actual Provider Module thread. However, it still had something to do with Nine Inch Nails, and I was also a bit surprised as to how the reaction to later Nine Inch Nails on Provider Module sort of mirrored the reaction of later Marilyn Manson on Echoing the Sound.*

Deepvoid
08-19-2014, 04:35 PM
Someone needs to challenge Trent to do the ALS ice bucket challenge.
I thought Dave Grohl would have nominated him but he went with Jack Black, Stephen King and John Travolta.

tony.parente
08-19-2014, 05:25 PM
@jezstyle (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=260) @october_midnight (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=288) @kleiner352 (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=4417) @tony.parente (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=2107)

It seems like The Slip and Hesitation Marks on Provider Module are exactly what Eat Me, Drink Me and The High End of Low are on Echoing the Sound. It also seems like you can say that there's some fans on Provider Module that look at With Teeth the way some fans also looked at The Golden Age of Grotesque on Echoing the Sound. I still can't help but find that interesting or even ironic, as I still frequent both forums.

I'm a HUGE fan of both bands, but on the NIN side of the argument manson hasn't had a quality live show in almost 10 years. NIN may have resorted to a lame set this specific leg of the tour but the show is still entertaining in a non laughable way.

I will say in my personal opinion mansons born villain is a better manson album than hesitation marks is a nin album.

kleiner
08-19-2014, 05:44 PM
Manson's been getting brought up way more than usual around here lately, what gives?

Back OT: Trent seems far better at sequencing an album than most bands; there really aren't many things I can complain about with the order of songs on almost any album. It's just a fantastic detail, and as someone who is big on full-album listens as opposed to song to song jumping around, it's just a really nice aspect of NIN that was a big draw early on. And it's not just a matter of using cross-fades all the time like a lot of other bands rely on for that. It's almost hard to notice or appreciate sometimes for me, simply because it's so well done that you hardly notice it.

Oh, and the transition from Closer into Ruiner might be one of the greatest transitions into another song on any album I've ever heard. Especially being used to the radio edit of Closer before hearing TDS, having it cut off and abruptly go right into Ruiner was an eye-popping moment for me the first time around, and I've never forgotten that feeling.

Halo Infinity
08-19-2014, 05:51 PM
Manson's been getting brought up way more than usually around here lately, what gives?
I know you liked my post and all, but my bad. I just couldn't help but notice it, since it mirrored the reactions about MM I've seen and known all too well on ETS. I also thought that I'd re-post my edit.

*I didn't know where else to put this because I didn't feel like it warranted a bump for the actual Provider Module thread. However, it still had something to do with Nine Inch Nails, and I was also a bit surprised as to how the reaction to later Nine Inch Nails on Provider Module sort of mirrored the reaction of later Marilyn Manson on Echoing the Sound.*

And yeah, it's quite the irony, since most of their arguments can easily become thrown back at MM. I also suppose that the history between the two is just that strong, regardless as to whether it's positive or negative. (I admit that it's mostly negative though.) :p

tony.parente
08-19-2014, 05:52 PM
Oh, and the transition from Closer into Ruiner might be one of the greatest transitions into another song on any album I've ever heard.

I take your Closer -> Ruiner and raise it a TLBtB -> BYIT -> RWIB

kleiner
08-19-2014, 05:53 PM
I know you liked my post and all, but my bad. I just couldn't help but notice it, since it mirrored the reactions about MM I've seen and known all too well on ETS. I also thought that I'd re-post my edit.

*I didn't know where else to put this because I didn't feel like it warranted a bump for the actual Provider Module thread. However, it still had something to do with Nine Inch Nails, and I was also a bit surprised as to how the reaction to later Nine Inch Nails on Provider Module sort of mirrored the reaction of later Marilyn Manson on Echoing the Sound.*

And yeah, it's quite the irony, since most of the arguments I've seen from either camp can always bounce off of each other. I also suppose that the history between the two is just that strong, regardless as to whether it's positive or negative. (I admit that it's mostly negative though.) :p

I'm not complaining or anything, it's just in the past few days I've noticed a lot of discussions popping up dealing with him, and in general this site's always seemed more uninterested/uncaring towards Manson than a lot of NIN forums often are.

@tony.parente (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=2107) : yeah, that's been a holy trinity of mine for a long time! Some of the best song to song flows seem to come in pairs of three, and that's one of the primary ones I've used to show people what I mean who are unfamiliar with NIN. Ruiner > The Becoming > I Do Not Want This, AATCHB > Persistence of Loss > Leaving Hope, Corona Radiata > Four of Us Are Dying > Demon Seed, there's a ton of examples.

Halo Infinity
08-19-2014, 06:03 PM
I'm not complaining or anything, it's just in the past few days I've noticed a lot of discussions popping up dealing with him, and in general this site's always seemed more uninterested/uncaring towards Manson than a lot of NIN forums often are.
I see what you mean. My only guess aside from the history between the two, would be that there's still an enormous crossover of fans from both fan-bases. And yes, I've also noticed that the Marilyn Manson discussion overall has subsided considerably over the years, especially in comparison as to how it was during most of 2002-2008.

It's probably just people like Hazekiah and I that somehow keep those topics alive, if not for just some brief/sporadic moments. I also don't mean to be a bother, but perhaps that will hopefully be the last Marilyn Manson-related observation/thought I've had tied with Nine Inch Nails for a while. :p

kleiner
08-19-2014, 06:17 PM
I see what you mean. My only guess aside from the history between the two, would be that there's still an enormous crossover of fans from both fan-bases. And yes, I've also noticed that the Marilyn Manson discussion overall has subsided considerably over the years, especially in comparison as to how it was during most of 2002-2008.

It's probably just people like Hazekiah and I that somehow keep those topics alive, if not for just some brief/sporadic moments. I also don't mean to be a bother, but perhaps that will hopefully be the last Marilyn Manson-related observation/thought I've had tied with Nine Inch Nails for a while. :p

Oh dude don't worry, you're totally fine. There's nothing wrong with it. Just surprising to see a lot of references and talk of the guy the past week or so, from a lot of different members.

Fitting with the thread and kinda addressing that whole topic, too: I'm super happy Trent and Manson cut ties when they did and haven't done anything since. Not to offend Manson fans but I can't imagine him being on the same professional level as Trent anymore, if anything it would be a mess of Trent approaching things with a serious attitude and Manson just fucking off and turning it into the same kind of thing he's been doing. Trent grew up and grew out of the mid-90's music scene, Manson never really did. There's a lot of fans that have mentioned wishing they'd kiss and make up or tour together or whatever, but holy shit, I can't imagine anything high-lighting how awful Manson's live shows are now than having it follow or come before a NIN show.

Halo Infinity
08-19-2014, 07:08 PM
I can't believe that I sometimes forgot just how much of a tease this can be. I wasn't at this concert, but the mere idea a few seconds of Happiness In Slavery being played near the end of The Great Destroyer was awesome. It's even much bigger than the tease I've gotten from a few seconds of The Only Time being played in the middle of Closer.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atWREh2X-WQ

r_k_f
08-21-2014, 11:42 AM
Stuck in a rut of only listening to live show recordings, I forgot how good Year Zero was..
Random thought complete [continues to bob head to Vessel breakdown]

Halo Infinity
08-21-2014, 04:23 PM
I sometimes like listening to Something I Can Never Have, A Warm Place, The Day The World Went Away, La Mer, Every Day Is Exactly The Same and In This Twilight while staring at an overcast sky.

kleiner
08-21-2014, 04:25 PM
The Lolla Brazil show from this year is maybe the coolest setlist of 2014. That and Japan night 2. I love the setlists I got on the Soundgarden tour, but wow, that Japan -> QOTSA -> Latin America time for setlists seems really underrated and overlooked. Opening with Wish, Letting You instead of 1,000,000, Burn into The Great Destroyer into The Big Come Down into Gave Up, Beside You In Time, this could count as a realistic dream setlist for me.

WorzelG
08-21-2014, 04:55 PM
The Lolla Brazil show from this year is maybe the coolest setlist of 2014. That and Japan night 2. I love the setlists I got on the Soundgarden tour, but wow, that Japan -> QOTSA -> Latin America time for setlists seems really underrated and overlooked. Opening with Wish, Letting You instead of 1,000,000, Burn into The Great Destroyer into The Big Come Down into Gave Up, Beside You In Time, this could count as a realistic dream setlist for me.
I put the lollapalooza brazil recording onto my iPod I liked it so much, I would prefer beginning with something slightly less heavy / aggressive though. I thought I wouldn't like them starting with me, I'm not until I saw it in Birmingham and London, then going into copy of a was great

sheepdean
08-21-2014, 08:59 PM
I wonder why Interscope haven't just reissued The Fragile by themselves, an album that went to #1 on billboard and 2x platinum, even if they weren't aware of the amount the vinyl goes for (and they have people whose sole job it is to know), you'd think they'd just do their own standard reissue/repress.

tony.parente
08-21-2014, 09:38 PM
I wonder why Interscope haven't just reissued The Fragile by themselves, an album that went to #1 on billboard and 2x platinum, even if they weren't aware of the amount the vinyl goes for (and they have people whose sole job it is to know), you'd think they'd just do their own standard reissue/repress.

It's probably stuck in some legal pergatory with paperwork signed by Trent that has a huge red stamp on it that says "SOON".

sheepdean
08-21-2014, 09:48 PM
Can an artist actually block a label releasing an album? He couldn't stop the Back in Black TDS issue, or the PHM reissue that was weeks before PHM-R

fillow
08-22-2014, 02:07 AM
Well, TR blocked Capital G, but it was just a single.

TheBang
08-22-2014, 04:40 AM
Can an artist actually block a label releasing an album? He couldn't stop the Back in Black TDS issue, or the PHM reissue that was weeks before PHM-R
I would imagine ultimately probably not, but he sure could make a stink about it to all the fans. And they know he's working on the super-deluxe special edition. A plain vanilla reissue is not likely to burn up the charts, so they really have nothing to gain by trying to circumvent him.

nooneimportant
08-22-2014, 07:05 AM
Speaking of Capital G, the Promo artwork seems familiar...

http://www.ninwiki.com/images/thumb/6/65/CapitolGpromocover.jpg/697px-CapitolGpromocover.jpg

http://www.ninwiki.com/images/d/d3/Halo25_cover.jpg

tony.parente
08-22-2014, 07:08 AM
Can an artist actually block a label releasing an album? He couldn't stop the Back in Black TDS issue, or the PHM reissue that was weeks before PHM-R

Well, I mean since they've gotten to the point to having product prototypes delivered to them I think it would be safe to say there may be some kind of deal inked without a due date. I think interscope probably knows they're sitting on a cash cow and doing a vinyl rerelease would destroy the market.

You know, me being an expert in marketing and stuff haha

niggo
08-22-2014, 07:53 AM
So I'm right now at work editing a clip for a client and suddenly there pops up this shot. I honestly can't tell if this is NIN or not. I guess not, but it really looks like it, especially in motion!

http://p35.imgup.net/nin-Copyae0b.jpg

Large version (http://o70.imgup.net/ninafaa.jpg)

r_k_f
08-22-2014, 08:50 AM
looks like the setup for Vessel to me..

nooneimportant
08-22-2014, 09:01 AM
That's definitely them playing Vessel from LITS.

sick among the pure
08-22-2014, 09:22 AM
That's definitely them playing Vessel from LITS.


This. I'd recognize JMJ's hair anywhere.

nooneimportant
08-22-2014, 09:35 AM
Vessel is also one of the first NIN songs I've ever listened to. It's probably top 5 or top 10 to me.

niggo
08-22-2014, 09:56 AM
Well, that's really fucking random. I found that shot in a clip about Beck's beer on german festivals, so I don't get why someone would put in an old NIN sequence from LITS. It's even the last shot of the whole clip.

I guess the person who did that is a fellow NIN fan :)

BenAkenobi
08-22-2014, 10:03 AM
Did someone use nin imagery as 25th frame?

sheepdean
08-22-2014, 06:38 PM
Well, that's really fucking random. I found that shot in a clip about Beck's beer on german festivals, so I don't get why someone would put in an old NIN sequence from LITS. It's even the last shot of the whole clip.

I guess the person who did that is a fellow NIN fan :)
Beck's Beer
JMJ was in Beck
JMJ was in NIN then

It's clearly 6 degrees of separation :P

eversonpoe
08-22-2014, 08:29 PM
Well, TR blocked Capital G, but it was just a single.

wait, what? is that why the vinyl single doesn't have a halo number?

sheepdean
08-22-2014, 08:39 PM
wait, what? is that why the vinyl single doesn't have a halo number?
http://www.ninwiki.com/Capital_G_(halo)
The Capital G single was released in Europe on June 4, 2007, on vinyl only (9"). Trent Reznor made this decision after Interscope initially wanted to release the single in a manner similar to Survivalism. Reznor has expressed his displeasure with multiple-part CD singles, feeling that they force his fans to spend more on a single than they really should.


Because it is a vinyl-only single, Capital G has not been designated as a Halo. To clarify, Rob Sheridan posted the following on The Spiral:
"It will not be a halo. It's a simple 9" vinyl release the record company really wanted to put out - Europe only, I believe. Side A is Capital G, side B is the Dave Sitek Survivalism remix. It will be nice for the people who have the 9" collector box, but we kept a halo # off of it because it doesn't warrant one, and so regular collectors wouldn't feel any pressure to pick it up just for the sake of completeness."

r_k_f
08-24-2014, 03:01 AM
This live version of TDTWWA is amazing.. Robin is killing it.


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ys6vyxRDtM

nooneimportant
08-24-2014, 03:11 AM
I love the version of SICN on the Natural Born Killers soundtrack. Dark stuff.

EDIT: I was checking out Nothing Studios on Google Maps to see what it looks like today, and I noticed that the Buddha Belly Bar is still located across the street from it. That's awesome. For those that don't remember or may not know, Trent got people to come in from that bar to sing on The Day The World Went Away. As for the studio, it seems to be entirely rebuilt and now a place for Pet Grooming...

kel
08-24-2014, 03:42 PM
goddamn, i wish reznor would've returned madonna's calls in the mid/late 90's.

whatever it's hypothetical potential, it woulda been THE TITS.

especially considering her artistic approach at the time (her best, 'erotica,' her weirdest, 'bedtime stories, her most ethereal, 'ray of light.').

sheepdean
08-24-2014, 08:28 PM
goddamn, i wish reznor would've returned madonna's calls in the mid/late 90's.

whatever it's hypothetical potential, it woulda been THE TITS.

especially considering her artistic approach at the time (her best, 'erotica,' her weirdest, 'bedtime stories, her most ethereal, 'ray of light.').
HTDA need to cover Ray of Light like yesterday

MrSlfDstruct
08-24-2014, 09:59 PM
I love the version of SICN on the Natural Born Killers soundtrack. Dark stuff.

EDIT: I was checking out Nothing Studios on Google Maps to see what it looks like today, and I noticed that the Buddha Belly Bar is still located across the street from it. That's awesome. For those that don't remember or may not know, Trent got people to come in from that bar to sing on The Day The World Went Away. As for the studio, it seems to be entirely rebuilt and now a place for Pet Grooming...


Wow, Google must've updated their street view recently, I just looked at it a few months ago and it was the old building, complete with the infamous door. I really want to know what happened to the door. Probably just got tossed when they remodeled. Kind of a shame, it was a weird piece of history.

Ash512
08-24-2014, 10:53 PM
Has anyone got a link with the full list of all the Spiral videos from the With Teeth/Year Zero days? I'm feeling nostalgic I guess...

Microwave Jellyfish
08-27-2014, 10:26 AM
I played the song for Chris, our drummer, and I was thinking, "He's going to start laughing. It's silly." But he goes, "Man, that guitar section was fucking great."

http://www.ninwiki.com/Ruiner

So... does anyone else think that Vrenna is the nicest guy ever? In the scene, at least. I've only listened his Tweaker albums and a podcast he was in, but still.

If you guys have a story about him being an asshole, or any knowledge about his latest work, or where we can catch him live, or just a fanmail address, feel free to contribute. Million thanks!

icecream
08-27-2014, 12:00 PM
This got me reading about Nothing Studios on Ninwiki. On the list of people who have visited, Three Doors Down was pretty random. Does anyone know the story of how they ended up there?

captainbeyond
08-27-2014, 01:14 PM
This got me reading about Nothing Studios on Ninwiki. On the list of people who have visited, Three Doors Down was pretty random. Does anyone know the story of how they ended up there?


They are from the coast of Mississippi which is only about an hour away from New Orleans. I can only assume its highly likely due to the location and possible connections to engineers, techs, people they know in the biz in the region, etc. I know a lot of people who used to hang out with those guys and its actually pretty random that they got famous and popular. Someone up top green lighted them into mainstream airplay.

captainbeyond
08-27-2014, 01:18 PM
EDIT: I was checking out Nothing Studios on Google Maps to see what it looks like today, and I noticed that the Buddha Belly Bar is still located across the street from it. That's awesome. For those that don't remember or may not know, Trent got people to come in from that bar to sing on The Day The World Went Away. As for the studio, it seems to be entirely rebuilt and now a place for Pet Grooming...


My band played at the Buddha Belly a few years ago and I kept walking across the street and just standing around the old Nothing Studios building and sorta daydreaming while staring at certain doors, windows,...visualizing parts of The Fragile and Still being created and played.

EndlessLoveless
08-27-2014, 04:10 PM
I'm not complaining or anything, it's just in the past few days I've noticed a lot of discussions popping up dealing with him, and in general this site's always seemed more uninterested/uncaring towards Manson than a lot of NIN forums often are.

@tony.parente (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=2107) : yeah, that's been a holy trinity of mine for a long time! Some of the best song to song flows seem to come in pairs of three, and that's one of the primary ones I've used to show people what I mean who are unfamiliar with NIN. Ruiner > The Becoming > I Do Not Want This, AATCHB > Persistence of Loss > Leaving Hope, Corona Radiata > Four of Us Are Dying > Demon Seed, there's a ton of examples.

I couldnt imagine playing corona radiata without lights in the sky before it.

FernandoDante
08-27-2014, 04:39 PM
If there ever was a NIN lineup capable of pulling off The Fragile live, it was the Tension lineup.

Enough members on stage to handle all the parts necessary, with ease. Excellent stage design ready to upgrade some visuals from the Fragility tour, add new stuff to the songs that have never been played live.

Joy Prevention Hotline
08-27-2014, 11:07 PM
I couldnt imagine playing corona radiata without lights in the sky before it.
Agreed, but CR seems like it should lead right into Demon Seed. It feels like you're coming to the end.

And it's so weird that after five loud songs, the album takes this sudden turn into Ghosts territory. Maybe slotting TFOAD in earlier would make it less weird — but I haven't tried that yet.

kleiner
08-27-2014, 11:12 PM
Agreed, but CR seems like it should lead right into Demon Seed. It feels like you're coming to the end.

And it's so weird that after five loud songs, the album takes this sudden turn into Ghosts territory. Maybe slotting TFOAD in earlier would make it less weird — but I haven't tried that yet.

It's almost like it "slips" into a different mood/style.

Sorry for how lame that was but someone had to make the pun.

Charmingly Miserable
08-27-2014, 11:36 PM
I think Ally has a great sense of humor. See: IG.

sheepdean
08-28-2014, 01:09 AM
And it's so weird that after five loud songs, the album takes this sudden turn into Ghosts territory. Maybe slotting TFOAD in earlier would make it less weird — but I haven't tried that yet.
I think it's a good representation of how a live show should work, noise noise noise and then the wash of the final, gentle tracks

Actually I think The Slip is the best live album never made, imo its concept is that of the performance of a live concert

Khrz
08-28-2014, 02:04 AM
^ Agree, I actually prefer the rehearsal renditions, they're slightly wilder, and the "garage" sound is a great change while we're used to an otherwise extremely airtight, obsessively controlled mastering when it comes to NIN's sound.

FernandoDante
08-28-2014, 02:14 AM
^ Agree, I actually prefer the rehearsal renditions, they're slightly wilder, and the "garage" sound is a great change while we're used to an otherwise extremely airtight, obsessively controlled mastering when it comes to NIN's sound.
Tjat "garage" sound is what rendered some of the best versions of NIN songs, IMO. Terrible Lie in 2008, best ever.

seasonsinthesky
08-28-2014, 02:28 AM
Agreed, but CR seems like it should lead right into Demon Seed. It feels like you're coming to the end.

And it's so weird that after five loud songs, the album takes this sudden turn into Ghosts territory. Maybe slotting TFOAD in earlier would make it less weird — but I haven't tried that yet.

it starts in Ghosts territory, though. and the basic blueprint The Slip intentionally follows is Bowie's Low — probably makes more sense if you listen to the vinyl (two different sides, one expected, one not).

r_k_f
08-28-2014, 12:19 PM
Just listened to The Slip straight thru for the 1st time in like forever thanks to you clowns ^

-thanks

kleiner
08-28-2014, 12:27 PM
Just listened to The Slip straight thru for the 1st time in like forever thanks to you clowns ^

-thanks

It's one of those albums I often forget about or neglect, then sporadically come back to and find myself thinking "Wow, this is a whole lot better than I remember it being, why don't I listen to this more?"

FULLMETAL
08-28-2014, 12:56 PM
This is faux spotting, but it would be interesting if there was a NIN component to the upcoming Apple iPhone-whatever announcement.

http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Screen-Shot-2014-08-28-at-12.02.27-PM1-640x633.png

tony.parente
08-28-2014, 01:07 PM
This is faux spotting, but it would be interesting if there was a NIN component to the upcoming Apple iPhone-whatever announcement.

Off topic, but

"Wish we could say more"

I see this as beats being integrated into into iOS and allowing it to be siri activated. But I see Dre on stage before Trent.

Joy Prevention Hotline
08-28-2014, 01:47 PM
I think it's a good representation of how a live show should work, noise noise noise and then the wash of the final, gentle tracks
I hope the show would be longer than 43 minutes, though. :p


it starts in Ghosts territory, though. and the basic blueprint The Slip intentionally follows is Bowie's Low — probably makes more sense if you listen to the vinyl (two different sides, one expected, one not).
I know, and he's always said he's a fan of Low. Still weird.


This is faux spotting, but it would be interesting if there was a NIN component to the upcoming Apple iPhone-whatever announcement.
I like to imagine NIN as Apple's new house band, but somehow I think it would be more than Apple could handle …

Still, I bet Trent and Rob could really amp up the keynotes. ("More screens!")

WorzelG
08-28-2014, 01:55 PM
I like to imagine NIN as Apple's new house band, but somehow I think it would be more than Apple could handle …

Still, I bet Trent and Rob could really amp up the keynotes. ("More screens!")
i wonder if The Downward Spiral is still so objectionable to Apple

virushopper
08-28-2014, 02:36 PM
I like to believe Trent stuck with the "Fuji" setlist for this tour to coast through it.

kleiner
08-28-2014, 02:50 PM
I like to believe Trent stuck with the "Fuji" setlist for this tour to coast through it.

I'd argue that's a more "controversial" opinion.

The Fuji set honestly just works. It really does. If you see one of these shows, the band is into it, the visuals are flawless, the audience seems to love it, it just creates a really wonderfully designed show that flows and fits the time limit. It contrasts everything Soundgarden does in their show, it offers a great experience and is just really, wonderfully executed. That entire setlist works really well. It has a flow, it gives and takes the energy, it balances the loud and the soft and manages to feel immediate and complete. Seeing the Fuji set in West Palm Beach, I can thoroughly say that I and the person I went with found it as satisfying as could be, and that was with people too fucking tall with sunglasses on top of their head standing in front of me blocking my view half the time and an older drunk lady who kept falling into my side. Each song follows the last really well, there's a sensible structure to it and it fits a co-headlining summer evening show so well, it's all it needs to be for this tour. Trent seems really into it, his energy is full and even more intense than it was at the Tension show I saw, he's just deeply enthusiastic and the rest of the band seems just as into it. If this is Trent coasting through a tour then he's just that good I guess.

screwdriver
08-28-2014, 11:08 PM
fragile on vinyl …. mmm, thanks @dJason (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=4759)

nooneimportant
08-28-2014, 11:42 PM
Off topic, but

"Wish we could say more"

I see this as beats being integrated into into iOS and allowing it to be siri activated. But I see Dre on stage before Trent.

Gonna be iPhone and iPad announcements.

tony.parente
08-29-2014, 12:11 AM
Gonna be iPhone and iPad announcements.

iPhone yes, I think iPad is announced in March. I think music integration will be the big software seller and a larger screen is going to be the big hardware seller. We'll see.

Ryan
08-29-2014, 12:25 AM
iPhone yes, I think iPad is announced in March. I think music integration will be the big software seller and a larger screen is going to be the big hardware seller. We'll see.


http://i.imgur.com/HDjAaIF.gif

Ryan
08-29-2014, 06:41 AM
Probably still the favorite of any song I've recorded:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0B6kncKKeY

tony.parente
08-29-2014, 06:51 AM
I can't stress enough how under-represented with teeth is live. SO GOOD live, all of it. Everything. (not everything)

Ryan
08-29-2014, 06:56 AM
Probably still the favorite of any song I've recorded:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0B6kncKKeY


...and these. I'm reminiscing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iVsMwNYqjA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o5cnvvqsJI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUD9IxvL_Eo

Ryan
08-29-2014, 06:58 AM
I can't stress enough how under-represented with teeth is live. SO GOOD live, all of it. Everything. (not everything)

This I agree with.

Ryan
08-29-2014, 07:41 AM
haha, skip to the 6:30 mark of this video of mine (been going back and re-watching the more recent ones)... Trent totally fucks up a part of Copy Of A. Didn't notice until now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0RB_9bB3Sg

r_k_f
08-29-2014, 08:40 AM
Love the live version of "Meet Your Master"...

niggo
08-29-2014, 10:01 AM
haha, skip to the 6:30 mark of this video of mine (been going back and re-watching the more recent ones)... Trent totally fucks up a part of Copy Of A. Didn't notice until now:

Is he smiling there? I can't turn the resolution up because of my shitty internet.

Either way, awesome video!

nooneimportant
08-29-2014, 10:03 AM
I can't stress enough how under-represented with teeth is live. SO GOOD live, all of it. Everything. (not everything)

I'm kinda bummed I didn't get to hear Only the other night.

Sarah K
08-29-2014, 10:13 AM
I wish that they would fucking play Just Like You Imagined more often... That is probably my second favorite instrumental track.

tony.parente
08-29-2014, 10:42 AM
I wish that they would fucking play Just Like You Imagined more often... That is probably my second favorite instrumental tract.
La Mer and JLYI should be staples, we should make a change.org petition to put a bill on the books.

pwing47
08-29-2014, 11:08 AM
Is he smiling there? I can't turn the resolution up because of my shitty internet.

Haha, that's what it looked like to me, too. It looks like he's trying to hold in a smile/LOL while thinking "uh, whoops."

Great videos, Ryan. I hope someday I'll get a chance to see MYM and TLBTB live :)

botley
08-29-2014, 12:37 PM
I wish that they would fucking play Just Like You Imagined more often... That is probably my second favorite instrumental track.
The harmonies in the middle are to hard to 'nail' (LOOL)… in the rehearsal video and the 2009 Wave Goodbye performance, they kinda blow through it without actually hitting the notes; on the Fragility 2.0 version, they used a backing tape with TR's multitracked voices for additional support. I think between the voices of TR, Ilan, Ally and (quiet) Robin they could probably do it for real but it'd take lots of rehearsing.

hobochic
08-29-2014, 01:10 PM
I haven't seen NIN live since the "WHOA WOW OH OW C'MON WHOA!" days... Has he stopped bodypumping on stage these days?

gorast
08-29-2014, 01:13 PM
Is he smiling there? I can't turn the resolution up because of my shitty internet.

Either way, awesome video!

It definitely looks like he was like "wow, that was embarrassing but also pretty funny." He was certainly smiling a bit after he tried the line.

Ryan
08-29-2014, 08:19 PM
Is he smiling there? I can't turn the resolution up because of my shitty internet.

Either way, awesome video!

haha yes he is.

tony.parente
08-30-2014, 12:14 AM
haha yes he is.

That was a look of sheer self-disappointment, he couldn't blame anyone but himself for that one haha

botley
08-30-2014, 01:36 AM
I haven't seen NIN live since the "WHOA WOW OH OW C'MON WHOA!" days... Has he stopped bodypumping on stage these days?
What the hell are you talking about?

BenAkenobi
08-30-2014, 02:10 AM
... "WHOA WOW OH OW C'MON WHOA!" days...

how could you forget to mention "HEY"?!

nooneimportant
08-30-2014, 03:34 AM
I haven't seen NIN live since the "WHOA WOW OH OW C'MON WHOA!" days... Has he stopped bodypumping on stage these days?

Still does it.

pinata89
08-30-2014, 10:26 PM
...I think between the voices of TR, Ilan, Ally and (quiet) Robin....

(quiet) Robin is imperative, hahaha! His attempts at vox make me cringe sometimes.

nooneimportant
08-30-2014, 10:47 PM
(quiet) Robin is imperative, hahaha! His attempts at vox make me cringe sometimes.

Robin nails the "Rain, rain go away" part of Down In It, though.

sick among the pure
08-31-2014, 04:57 AM
(quiet) Robin is imperative, hahaha! His attempts at vox make me cringe sometimes.

I will never not love Robin's vocals. HATERS BE DAMNED. ;)

Trains
09-01-2014, 07:58 AM
Random thought...I am really damn happy that I got to see NIN play this year, bearing in mind I thought it was a definite game-over for them after the Wave Goodbye days. Just putting that out there.

BenAkenobi
09-01-2014, 10:01 AM
nin.com front page still says “on tour now” ;)

nooneimportant
09-01-2014, 10:04 AM
Random thought...I am really damn happy that I got to see NIN play this year, bearing in mind I thought it was a definite game-over for them after the Wave Goodbye days. Just putting that out there.

I feel the same way. Didn't think they would hit up Northern California since they haven't since 2008 and before that 2000, but they did and it was great.

sick among the pure
09-01-2014, 10:11 AM
Since I started listening to NIN right after Fragility, and having my first 4 years of being a fan comprised mostly of rumors of Trent being dead or else giving up music forever, I treat every single tour as "it COULD be my last time seeing NIN live, at least, with this setup/lineup/sound". (Especially since Robin wasn't here for WT. Yes, I know, second post in a row about loving Robin, whatev.)

dlb
09-01-2014, 04:14 PM
Just re-watched BYIT after a really long time and somehow fell back in love with the sound of that era. Say what you want but WT-era NIN was all kinds of amazing and probably my favorite touring-leg when it comes to Trent's voice. Perfect combination of his younger self and current more growling vocals and a great transition to current live NIN which is pretty damn amazing in its own right.

ethan829
09-02-2014, 08:26 AM
They're still selling the deluxe TGWTDT soundtrack on the nin.com store...

sheepdean
09-02-2014, 08:43 AM
They're still selling the deluxe TGWTDT soundtrack on the nin.com store...
That would be because it hasn't sold out yet (so ignore the scalpers on eBay if you want one)

r_k_f
09-02-2014, 09:03 AM
nothing like starting a productive day in the office with my NINstrumentals playlist on Beats music.. love just putting on shuffle and letting it go. 7+ hours of magic. https://listen.beatsmusic.com/playlists/pl170192188259565824

misternegative
09-02-2014, 12:05 PM
They're still selling the deluxe TGWTDT soundtrack on the nin.com store...

(As if you needed confirmation that this was legitimate but) I ordered one a few weeks ago, and may I say, it is truly beautiful. Shipping was extremely high ($60), but even the box has TGWTDT embroidered on it (which may be a cool or worrisome thing, depending where you live). Top-notch, all the way.

sheepdean
09-02-2014, 04:43 PM
nothing like starting a productive day in the office with my NINstrumentals playlist on Beats music.. love just putting on shuffle and letting it go. 7+ hours of magic. https://listen.beatsmusic.com/playlists/pl170192188259565824
Calling them ninstrumentals is the stupidest, nerdiest thing that I love to do. I need to come up with a good pun for my covers playlist too

GibbonBlack
09-02-2014, 10:11 PM
come up with a good pun for my covers playlist too

NINitations?

screwdriver
09-02-2014, 11:23 PM
http://www.chaoscontrol.com/nine-inch-nails-1992-exclusive-interview/

Old, old Trent interview that the zine site reposted, I've not seen it before so I imagine others haven't either. He talks mostly about Broken and PHM. key quote: "I like my version of “Suck” a lot better than the Pigface one"


love this quote:

The prediction is that it will be less dense. It will be more demo sounding and less produced. You can bog yourself down with overproduction. “Broken” was overproduced. Too much thought went into that, too many layers of things went in.

so in other words, Trent has been saying this basically for every album. if i wasn't so lazy, I would compile quotes from every era, but trust me

Charmingly Miserable
09-02-2014, 11:32 PM
What are your thoughts on NIN tribute bands?
http://www.nin-tribute.com

Your Name Here
09-02-2014, 11:47 PM
Tribute bands are a necessary evil, they can actually aid and generate sales of the artist that they tribute. At the same time if they are good and put on a good show you will still long to see the actual artist they are tributing and if they suck you will want to see the original artist. I think for artist that are dead like Jimi Hendrix or Jim Morrison it's a way for that artists music to live on. However for current and still touring artists it does nothing for me. Since I'm a recluse and am just short of agoraphobia the only thing that is getting out of the house is the actual artist.

Little_Dreamer
09-03-2014, 01:09 AM
After listening to the remastered PHM quite often since it came out, I was quite surprised to suddenly hear the 'Dear Mom and Dad' part in Sanctified in my left ear. It's really, really quiet and first I thought someone was talking to me. Made me way happier than it probably should have.

Edit: Nope, I was wrong. Sorry

WorzelG
09-03-2014, 02:15 AM
love this quote:


so in other words, Trent has been saying this basically for every album. if i wasn't so lazy, I would compile quotes from every era, but trust me
When he was talking about how sparse the last album was and I listened to it and thought it sounded really layered, I was just eh?

Omega
09-03-2014, 03:13 AM
Haven't listened to the remastered PHM. Guess I should. Never liked tribute bands, kinda just lame to me or comical depending on. Haha, some songs sound so silly or just bad. It's like they all sound like Stabbing Westward Lol! No trib albums for me, thx.

sheepdean
09-03-2014, 09:02 AM
I only like tribute bands that change the sound (Tragedy (http://www.letsmaketragedyhappen.com/) are a great example).

And PHM-R improves some tracks but some were hurt by being turned up. The vinyl is totally better though, as the audio is much less tight (and I still have no idea if they even touched GDML, it sounds the same to me)

hologram parade
09-03-2014, 04:54 PM
I had a dream that Trent & Co had a subscription service like Third Man's The Vault which has lead to me thinking abt the idea all day. Heres what I came up with

Releases included:

HTDA Sigil 1: The Drowning/Between The Spaces(Sonoio Rework) 7"

Saul Williams: Niggy Tardust Demos and Instrumentals LP

HTDA: Live Album CD/BluRay

NIN: Things Falling Apart LP Remaster w/ a extra LP with all those awesome Fragile remixes that werent used like La Mer (version) and No You Dont (version) etc etc

NIN: AATCHB BluRay w/ a few added songs in the bonus features

NIN: BYIT audio LP and CD

TR/AR: Social Network LP box set with a 180g 45 rpm pressing, expanded artwork etc

NIN: TDS, HM and YZ Instrumental LPs

wizfan
09-03-2014, 05:34 PM
We have a dream thread for that. (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/threads/2868-Dreams-with-Trent-NIN-in-them)

cahernandez
09-04-2014, 01:22 AM
I was talking to a fellow ETSer that I met at the Houston show, and it turned out that he was also at the same Wave Goodbye show I went to (Camden), and also got to see soundcheck and meet the band, as part of the Eric de la Cruz fundraiser. I thought it was a big coincidence, so that made me reminisce about the concert, and the meet & greet experience. That made me want to see again the picture they took of us, and I was looking at it...and realized that JOSH FREESE was also in the photo! (I'm the guy kneeling down, with the backpack in front of me...look at the dude above me, blonde hair...)

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5589/15134557702_e959a5ccde_b.jpg

piggy
09-04-2014, 03:16 AM
After listening to the remastered PHM quite often since it came out, I was quite surprised to suddenly hear the 'Dear Mom and Dad' part in Sanctified in my left ear. It's really, really quiet and first I thought someone was talking to me. Made me way happier than it probably should have.
I thought that sample was supposed to have been omitted for the remaster. I sure as hell can't hear any of it.

Little_Dreamer
09-04-2014, 06:04 AM
I thought that sample was supposed to have been omitted for the remaster. I sure as hell can't hear any of it.

I listened to it again and didn't hear it this time around. I dunno, my left ear is kinda fucked up at the moment anyway, but I swear I heard it.
Maybe someone who's a bit more tech-savvy could check this out?

Edit: okay, it seems I was imagining things. No wonder with all the stress I'm having lately. Sorry about the confusion.

sheepdean
09-04-2014, 06:14 AM
It's not there, that's one of my chief problems with PHM-R, that a couple of samples are awol

r_k_f
09-04-2014, 09:39 AM
Is it just me or does All Time Low seem like its riddled with old 8 bit arcade sounds? example: 1:20-1:40

nooneimportant
09-04-2014, 10:12 AM
Is it just me or does All Time Low seem like its riddled with old 8 bit arcade sounds? example: 1:20-1:40

Also the ending arpeggio synth sounds like Final Fantasy's infamous Prelude.

burn.
09-04-2014, 10:30 AM
OMG ARG!!!1!

http://s15.postimg.org/6ofgcutgr/sniper.png (http://fat.gfycat.com/BlackDistantFritillarybutterfly.gif)

No seriously, I was all "oh shit, it's happening".

http://fat.gfycat.com/BlackDistantFritillarybutterfly.gif

kel
09-04-2014, 01:16 PM
I was talking to a fellow ETSer that I met at the Houston show, and it turned out that he was also at the same Wave Goodbye show I went to (Camden), and also got to see soundcheck and meet the band, as part of the Eric de la Cruz fundraiser. I thought it was a big coincidence, so that made me reminisce about the concert, and the meet & greet experience. That made me want to see again the picture they took of us, and I was looking at it...and realized that JOSH FREESE was also in the photo! (I'm the guy kneeling down, with the backpack in front of me...look at the dude above me, blonde hair...)

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5589/15134557702_e959a5ccde_b.jpg
are you sure that's josh freese?

cahernandez
09-04-2014, 01:20 PM
are you sure that's josh freese?

It's only a joke, my friend. But the guy looks quite a bit like him.

That Camden show was great, the meet & greet was excellent. I remember I got my Ghosts DE book to be signed by the band, Justin saw it and he smiled at me and said "oooh, very nice". Super cool guy.

That day I also met Leo Herrera, backstage...for some reason he knew I spoke Spanish (my looks?) so he decided to speak Spanish to me. He told me he was from Colombia, I didn't know that. Very chill dude, he signed my With Teeth copy. Does anyone know if he kept working with the band in a studio environment? Ninwiki says that his last record as a studio engineer was Still, and "went back to touring in 2008". What would he be doing with the band in a tour environment?

Omega
09-04-2014, 01:53 PM
Haha, I am totally dating myself here lol but I remember that Hard Copy episode, when it first aired. Yep, lol. I was like oh, that's my new fave band, how cool but what are they doing on this show? My sister would watch Hard Copy lol..so I had seen it a few times. I remember kinda yelling at the tv for him saying, "Nine Inch Noise." "Nine Inch Noise! Shut up you old man! You don't know good music!". Lol! And they misspelled his name, Trent Resnor. Lol.

Halo Infinity
09-04-2014, 03:47 PM
A very little thing that cheers me up that is also a random NIN thought. It has almost seemed to work each and every time.

Successfully introducing Nine Inch Nails to fans of Guns N' Roses, Nirvana, Radiohead, Marilyn Manson (Yes, I have actually met MM fans that never heard of NIN, or just never bothered checking NIN out.) and/or Linkin Park that have never ever heard of NIN before. It's often 99.9% a lock for them to become NIN fans in minutes, or even seconds as I've seen it work out in real life.

And even though it's only happened a few times in my life, it feels very satisfying and pleasant to see it NIN albums work their magic. :) I also have yet to introduce NIN to a Tori Amos fan or a Tool fan that hasn't heard of NIN before either.

*I think I've probably said this before. If so, and you remember, my bad, but I still enjoy it whenever that happens.*

Microwave Jellyfish
09-04-2014, 08:26 PM
Can't say I have a lot of experience with that (had huge success turning a grunger into a fan, on the other hand my Toolhead friend barely tolerates anything by T-Rez), but I really like to shock people who are still unaware about the origins of Hurt.

nooneimportant
09-05-2014, 07:58 AM
You know, I've been thinking and it occured to me that the 1995 Club Tour is really shrouded in mystery. I've never heard or seen anything about it whatsoever. Judging from the venues on the NIN Wiki, it was about as small as the Wave Goodbye shows were in 2009 based on Google searching the venue names.

r_k_f
09-05-2014, 10:12 AM
With T & A (giggle giggle) working with the orchestra for the Gone Girl soundtrack maybe it will inspire him to do some kind of one off performance like the `97 Portishead Roseland show... I know he had the string quartet for that Bridge School benefit but that wasn't anything like Portisheads performance or the Gone Girl arrangement...
Just another item for the wish list.

For those who know not of that Portishead performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW1lBAkGt3s

eversonpoe
09-05-2014, 02:56 PM
With T & A (giggle giggle) working with the orchestra for the Gone Girl soundtrack maybe it will inspire him to do some kind of one off performance like the `97 Portishead Roseland show... I know he had the string quartet for that Bridge School benefit but that wasn't anything like Portisheads performance or the Gone Girl arrangement...
Just another item for the wish list.

For those who know not of that Portishead performance.

that portishead DVD is my most-watched concert film ever. there's nothing crazy going on in terms of performance, but it is just so compelling to watch. i also adore how they allowed the musicians to dress casually.

henryeatscereal
09-05-2014, 06:09 PM
"Roseland NYC" by Portishead is one of the greatest concerts 've ever heard, they took an idea that can backfire easily (Metallica and KISS i'm looking at you...) and they ruled ass! I bet Trent can do something similar, yet i don't want to hear just "loud music" over an orchestra, they have to adapt just like Portishead did...

Joy Prevention Hotline
09-06-2014, 07:34 PM
What are your thoughts on NIN tribute bands?
http://www.nin-tribute.com
Well, at least there's no danger of their singer getting hired to replace Trent if he "leaves" NIN. :p

"Nine Inch Nails is some dude you've never heard of."

Mmmm, that gives me an idea for Controversial Music Opinions.


"Roseland NYC" by Portishead is one of the greatest concerts 've ever heard, they took an idea that can backfire easily (Metallica and KISS i'm looking at you...) and they ruled ass! I bet Trent can do something similar, yet i don't want to hear just "loud music" over an orchestra, they have to adapt just like Portishead did...
The Bridge School show is the only band + orchestra project (well, rock musician + orchestra) I can remember that didn't end in tears. But I'll check out that Portishead show first song sounds promising enough.

nooneimportant
09-06-2014, 07:51 PM
Any solo I hear on a NIN record, I immediately imagine Robin playing it.

God damnit.

m15a
09-06-2014, 08:03 PM
Any solo I hear on a NIN record, I immediately imagine Robin playing it.

God damnit.

Do you mean every solo he plays live? (I can identify with that.) Or do you mean, like, you imagine him playing drums at the start of MOTP? (:confused:)

r_k_f
09-06-2014, 08:11 PM
Any solo I hear on a NIN record, I immediately imagine Robin playing it.

God damnit.

As as much as I love Robin... I wonder what Belew would have been like?
Also, I wonder what Trent soloing some of the solos would sound like?

nooneimportant
09-06-2014, 08:41 PM
Do you mean every solo he plays live? (I can identify with that.) Or do you mean, like, you imagine him playing drums at the start of MOTP? (:confused:)

I imagine he's playing the guitar on Ruiner and stuff like that, even though Trent is playing the solo on the studio version of that. I was listening to My Violent Heart earlier and once the Guitar solo came in, I imagined Robin playing it and Trent playing Tambourine. I'm weird.

kleiner
09-06-2014, 08:44 PM
As much as I believe that Robin is the definitive live NIN guitarist, every time I listen to recordings of Performance 2007 I always find myself thinking of how insane Aaron's guitar playing was on so many of TDS songs they did. Seriously, what he did on Reptile and The Becoming is incredible sounding and so beyond what I'd expect.

henryeatscereal
09-07-2014, 12:10 AM
The Bridge School show is the only band + orchestra project (well, rock musician + orchestra) I can remember that didn't end in tears. But I'll check out that Portishead show — first song sounds promising enough.
Do it, you won't be disappointed, that concert is so good it gives me goosebumps just to think of it...

Now, on topic: Listening to "Hesitation Marks" the other day i thought it's one of his most diverse works yet: doing Noise, Rock, Electro and even Pop, i consider "The Fragile" his richest musical work, yet HM has to be the most diverse one yet...

r_k_f
09-07-2014, 01:02 AM
As much as I believe that Robin is the definitive live NIN guitarist, every time I listen to recordings of Performance 2007 I always find myself thinking of how insane Aaron's guitar playing was on so many of TDS songs they did. Seriously, what he did on Reptile and The Becoming is incredible sounding and so beyond what I'd expect.

North owns The Big Come Down... Owns it!

pwing47
09-07-2014, 01:54 AM
North owns The Big Come Down... Owns it!

Very weird. I came here specifically to post a super random thought about Aaron North, and here he is in the last post.

Anyway, the in-the-works Live release got me watching BYIT, so I've had it on a few times this week. I must have been watching more closely than previous viewings, because even though I know the general playing style AN had, I didn't realize how much energy he has throughout the entire set. It makes me a little sad inside knowing I won't get to see him play with NIN. Would really love to see that dynamic in person.

nooneimportant
09-07-2014, 02:35 AM
Listening to the final Wave Goodbye show and I'm honestly wondering why Mike Garson hasn't joined the live band by now. Good god.

WorzelG
09-07-2014, 04:22 AM
Just been playing Silent Hill Downpour, and I thought Murphy looked quite Trent-like and just last night while playing with headphones, Murphy said 'oh God why are you doing this to me' while climbing through a window, so that clinches it

kleiner
09-07-2014, 05:40 AM
Listening to the final Wave Goodbye show and I'm honestly wondering why Mike Garson hasn't joined the live band by now. Good god.
Garson is phenomenal. If you like the Smashing Pumpkins at all, there was an acoustic show he performed that is absolutely spectacular.

Ryan
09-07-2014, 06:50 AM
As as much as I love Robin... I wonder what Belew would have been like?
Also, I wonder what Trent soloing some of the solos would sound like?

They would have needed to play The Great Below if he was on board.

You know..

The Great Belew...




...I'll see myself out....

screwdriver
09-07-2014, 11:45 AM
man, that extended guitar intro on TDTWWA on the fragile vinyl is nice. nothing groundbreaking but made this song seem fresh again

loving rediscovering this album thanks to @dJason (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=4759)

I'm sure now that I've done this, the super deluxe edition will come out any day now….

r_k_f
09-07-2014, 01:26 PM
Listening to the final Wave Goodbye show and I'm honestly wondering why Mike Garson hasn't joined the live band by now. Good god.
I'd love to hear what it would be like if he was playing a synth w/ NIN patches as opposed to straight up piano-y sounds..... Know what I mean?

fillow
09-07-2014, 01:44 PM
I might be wrong, but I suppose after years of touring with Pumpkins and David Bowie (especially during 96-97, supporting very electronic Outside and Earthling albums and without extra keyboard personnel in the band) he can play any synth patch you need, not only piano.

nooneimportant
09-07-2014, 03:12 PM
I'd love to hear what it would be like if he was playing a synth w/ NIN patches as opposed to straight up piano-y sounds..... Know what I mean?

His addition of regular piano to The Becoming is very interesting, especially during the "Annie hold a little tighter" part. What was a dark and brooding song becomes beautiful for a few seconds, almost as if the character in TDS has an inkling of hope before descending back into madness.

sick among the pure
09-07-2014, 06:59 PM
North owns The Big Come Down... Owns it!

I should really go to controversial opinions for this post, but you misspelled "ruins".
I expect many thumbs down now.

r_k_f
09-07-2014, 08:03 PM
I should really go to controversial opinions for this post, but you misspelled "ruins".
I expect many thumbs down now.
Hmmmm.. I can understand maybe liking it Finck-ified... But to say North "ruins it" is a bit much. Most live tracks I do give the nod to Finck, but not this one.

bgalbraith
09-09-2014, 12:42 AM
10 years ago, today (September 9th), Trent announced the closing of Nothing Studios. This is how ETS reacted to it:
http://archives.echoingthesound.org/topics/6192/index.html

EDIT:
Internet Archive reference to the post: http://web.archive.org/web/20040911032240/http://www.nin.com/current/index.html

gorast
09-09-2014, 01:10 AM
Announcement of the Closure DVD right under it.

Good times.

FULLMETAL
09-09-2014, 01:12 AM
Hey, let's not forget about the 15th anniversary of this one:

http://youtu.be/hv5JNtcjExE?list=UUQd9tUB7DNgc8LhVX9N723Q

(http://youtu.be/hv5JNtcjExE?list=UUQd9tUB7DNgc8LhVX9N723Q)

WorzelG
09-09-2014, 02:18 AM
10 years ago, today (September 9th), Trent announced the closing of Nothing Studios. This is how ETS reacted to it:
http://archives.echoingthesound.org/topics/6192/index.html

EDIT:
Internet Archive reference to the post: http://web.archive.org/web/20040911032240/http://www.nin.com/current/index.html

Reading one of the updates underneath that one, he said 'returning to NOLA for treatments / labwork' meaning the record and a bunch of people took that to mean he was ill or had cancer!

FernandoDante
09-09-2014, 04:03 AM
Announcement of the Closure DVD right under it.

Good times.
"in stores fall 2004"

BRUTAL

cahernandez
09-09-2014, 10:11 AM
I really like the description of The Line Begins to Blur in the first one of those updates "The latter's structure was changed several times to no avail -it's slow and brutal and heavy and blew up the genelecs. oh well. i'm sure i'll be hearing that one again tomorrow (on different speakers)."

Who was writing these updates? Rob?

sweeterthan
09-09-2014, 12:42 PM
Glad I'm not the only one who recognized the back of Trent's head in that Gwen Stefani Instagram.

sheepdean
09-09-2014, 12:47 PM
Glad I'm not the only one who recognized the back of Trent's head in that Gwen Stefani Instagram.
We're creepy tbh

sweeterthan
09-09-2014, 12:50 PM
We're creepy tbh

I know :( but what can you do? At least we have company.

Edit: the first time I met trent, I recognized him from behind too. I blame him for looking like himself ;).

WorzelG
09-09-2014, 01:11 PM
Glad I'm not the only one who recognized the back of Trent's head in that Gwen Stefani Instagram.

So apple are making some big announcement? To be honest I just hope they incorporate Beats music service into itunes for free - I'd like that

Vertigo
09-09-2014, 05:29 PM
They're announcing that the new iPhone is thinner than the old one. Black-polo-neck-wearing population of the planet collectively jizzes.

screwdriver
09-09-2014, 05:37 PM
So apple are making some big announcement? To be honest I just hope they incorporate Beats music service into itunes for free - I'd like that

yes, and if they started giving out free iphones I would like that too

Halo Infinity
09-09-2014, 07:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBKwtK1J30c

Throw_it_away9
09-09-2014, 11:41 PM
^Makes me think of all that could have been...if NIN would have played the VMAs with the pic of George W Bush behind them...

Charmingly Miserable
09-10-2014, 12:04 AM
Once again, Ally rules IG (http://instagram.com/p/sv-WiyKjWk/?modal=true).

cahernandez
09-10-2014, 12:10 AM
Goddamn, that's such a great performance of The Fragile. I was lucky to see it in Austin 09, I believe it was not performed that much during NINJA.

Even though I became a fan after that touring era had finished, seeing Danny Lohner scream into the microphone made me feel nostalgic. It's great to see artists giving it their all during a show, even if it's only one song. The video made me want to listen to Still again, to hear that version of The Fragile, haven't listened to it in a while

nooneimportant
09-10-2014, 03:17 AM
Glad I'm not the only one who recognized the back of Trent's head in that Gwen Stefani Instagram.

Yeah, that's gotta be him.

I'm terrible.

sweeterthan
09-10-2014, 02:10 PM
Yeah, that's gotta be him.

I'm terrible.

Nah. Apparently a ton of folks recognized that neck.

Halo Infinity
09-11-2014, 02:41 AM
It's been a while since I've done this, but I want to unwind to Closure on any given Friday night or Saturday night again. I've missed doing that. :)

hani
09-11-2014, 01:12 PM
Once again, Ally rules IG (http://instagram.com/p/sv-WiyKjWk/?modal=true).

*the world.

you're welcome

Harry Seaward
09-11-2014, 01:50 PM
Nah. Apparently a ton of folks recognized that neck.

Or lack thereof.

kleiner
09-11-2014, 04:44 PM
I'm listening to Things Falling Apart again and realized that the Tension tour totally missed the opportunity to do The Great Collapse, considering they had the female vocalists. That right after The Wretched could've been fantastic.

pwing47
09-11-2014, 05:04 PM
I'm listening to Things Falling Apart again and realized that the Tension tour totally missed the opportunity to do The Great Collapse, considering they had the female vocalists. That right after The Wretched could've been fantastic.

TGC is one of my favorite songs on any of the remix albums (though I know it's technically not a remix). Would kill to see that live. Guess I had never thought about Tension being a good op for it; I've always kinda assumed it's one of those that's just obscure enough to forever fall into the "never to be played" bucket.

screwdriver
09-11-2014, 05:18 PM
I'm listening to Things Falling Apart again and realized that the Tension tour totally missed the opportunity to do The Great Collapse, considering they had the female vocalists. That right after The Wretched could've been fantastic.

oh man, that is a great idea

dvdglss
09-11-2014, 05:26 PM
I'm listening to Things Falling Apart again and realized that the Tension tour totally missed the opportunity to do The Great Collapse, considering they had the female vocalists. That right after The Wretched could've been fantastic.

The entire Fragile era songs would be awesome with a Tension sized band.

imagine 10 miles high....

Halo Infinity
09-12-2014, 05:33 PM
It's seems like I've finally narrowed it down to three websites when it comes to promoting Nine Inch Nails and NIN sites outside of NIN.com. The first two are clearly no-brainers, especially as one that has frequented ETS a lot. I have it in mind a lot, as I've still met NIN fans that have never heard of these sites anyway.

The NIN Hotline - It would seem better if they became fans to the point of following NIN before checking it out, but at the same time, The NIN Hotline paved the way for ETS, and it feels unfair for me to plug ETS without plugging The NIN Hotline anyway. They'd also be in for a real treat if they have no idea about The Meathead Perspective.

Echoing the Sound - To hopefully find me as Kris, and ETS as another place on the Internet to chill and socialize that isn't Facebook and/or Twitter.

The Nine Inch Nails Wiki - Especially for new fans. I also like how informative and organized it is, and how easy it is on the eyes. Wikipedia seems to be a bit of a glaring eyesore to me after a while.

kleiner
09-12-2014, 05:37 PM
The Nine Inch Nails Wiki - Especially for new fans. I also like how informative and organized it is, and how easy it is on the eyes. Wikipedia seems to be a bit of a glaring eyesore to me after a while.

I owe it to that site entirely for making me as aware as I am of the entire YZ ARG, something that helped me become a bigger fan overall. Seriously, the amount of info compiled on that subject alone is just incredible.

Ryan
09-12-2014, 08:53 PM
I think I recognise the back of that head

From Gwent Stefani's FB "On my way to apple launch w dr dre (https://www.facebook.com/gwenstefani/photos/a.10151329855804873.493794.19074699872/10152827576029873/?type=1&permPage=1)"

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10255221_10152827576029873_1495840406765173735_n.j pg?oh=1a63920140546ed8adac43fe41420050&oe=5492098D&__gda__=1419909096_b180275365afc9384cc8d1293f55b0e 7



This needs captions.


"Lol, I'm about to pat TR on the head."


"Seriously, he's only this tall man."

nooneimportant
09-12-2014, 11:14 PM
The Nine Inch Nails Wiki - Especially for new fans. I also like how informative and organized it is, and how easy it is on the eyes. Wikipedia seems to be a bit of a glaring eyesore to me after a while.

This site is incredibly useful. I became a NIN fan in 2008 and thanks to the Wiki and NIN Live, I feel like I've been a fan since the 90's. It's great.

Ryan
09-12-2014, 11:20 PM
This site is incredibly useful. I became a NIN fan in 2008 and thanks to the Wiki and NIN Live, I feel like I've been a fan since the 90's. It's great.


All I know about ninwiki is that I always OCD-edit all of the tour pages for each show and piggy edits or fixes any errors I make once I create the page. :D

botley
09-13-2014, 04:03 AM
oh man, that is a great idea
It is... they should bring back Fischer & Gibson, for a start. I'd like to see Ilan playing more 'cello again.

Man, does "The Great Collapse" sound like the blueprint for HTDA or what?

Ryan
09-13-2014, 07:26 AM
Now
you
know
this is what
it feels like

pinata89
09-13-2014, 06:23 PM
now
you
know
this is what
it feels like

(this is what it feels like!!)

botley
09-13-2014, 09:16 PM
(this is what it feels like!!)
THAIS AIS WHADDIT FAAAAIIIIIIIIIILS LAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIAIAIAIAIAIAIIIIIIIIIKKEhuh

nooneimportant
09-13-2014, 10:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcja8UBtXdk

Watch this video while listening to Eraser.

kel
09-13-2014, 11:47 PM
"pilgrimage" is like cilantro.

i love it, but those that don't loathe the shit out of it.

slave2thewage
09-14-2014, 12:16 AM
Turns out the guy who directed the video for Deep is from the next town over from mine.

I apologise on behalf of my people.

Halo Infinity
09-14-2014, 02:19 AM
I'm sure this is a very common thought, but I've always figured that a minimum gap of 2 years or 3 years in between Nine Inch Nails albums would seem to be just right aside from the regular 4 years or 5 years. I also only say 4 years, because Pretty Hate Machine was still 4 years old when The Downward Spiral came out.

As nice as it always was to get a new album, 1 year just felt too fast, even though that only happened with Year Zero, Ghosts I-IV and The Slip.

Oh yes, and seeing the gap between The Fragile and With Teeth being called a gap of 6 years is still burnt into my memory because The Fragile was still 5 years old when With Teeth came out.

Joy Prevention Hotline
09-14-2014, 09:48 PM
Watch this video while listening to Eraser.
<snark>"Music by Godspeed You Black Emperor." That explains why it was so dull.</snark>

Eraser is an improvement, though the last part of the song really calls for a change in pacing.

Endlessly
09-15-2014, 12:39 AM
I noticed a little while back that AiR sells (non-limited) booklet-only versions of In A Frozen Sea, since the full sets have long been sold out. Wonder if NIN would ever do the same for the Ghosts LE?

nooneimportant
09-15-2014, 07:38 PM
I just had a hearing test (I'm partially deaf) and I realized that "999,999" sounds alot like a hearing test.

howdidislipinto
09-15-2014, 07:43 PM
I just had a hearing test (I'm partially deaf) and I realized that "999,999" sounds alot like a hearing test.

Having had a few MRIs this year (it's been fun!), I think Tetsuo is definitely MRI-inspired.

pwing47
09-16-2014, 01:26 AM
I've heard the audio before, but I'm watching the video for the first time.

This transition (at ~59 min and 0 sec) from TGD into The Big Come Down seriously makes me want to cry. It's so beautiful and perfect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6fnc1q3A3g&t=59m

TBCD is on my NIN bucket list. If I ever see it get intro'd like that I will fall over dead in the crowd and call it a good life.

Halo Infinity
09-16-2014, 04:39 PM
Every Day Is Exactly The Same still seems to hit me the most on Monday and Wednesday.

misternegative
09-16-2014, 05:59 PM
Going through some old videos I recorded of Tension, and you know what pisses me off?

People in the audience who feel the need to shout "Whoo!" and yell/talk during songs like The Frail. I get singing along, and yelling at the beginning of a rare song or a hit song, but during moments like The Frail? Silence is so much more beautiful.

/rustled jimmies

GibbonBlack
09-16-2014, 06:01 PM
Going through some old videos I recorded of Tension, and you know what pisses me off?

People in the audience who feel the need to shout "Whoo!" and yell/talk during songs like The Frail. I get singing along, and yelling at the beginning of a rare song or a hit song, but during moments like The Frail? Silence is so much more beautiful.

/rustled jimmies


People tend to not care as much during instrumentals :(

pwing47
09-16-2014, 08:47 PM
People tend to not care as much during instrumentals :(

Yeah, and it's too bad. It happens during slower songs, too, like Find My Way.

The only time I've ever not cared about someone making noise during an instrumental is on one of the TOIOU discs, when some guy yells, "FUCKIN BEAUTIFUL" during a great shot of Robin playing Ghosts 28. Because that's exactly what it is.

screwdriver
09-16-2014, 08:49 PM
i've honestly never understood the "bro" culture that seems to exist around certain aspects of NIN. when i saw them in 2005, there were SO MANY BROS at the show, with their backwards hats and their ultra-misogyny and their spilling their beer all over me (ah, i digress...) and i don't get it. i'm not saying anyone can't enjoy any kind of music, and i'm not an elitist or a hipster that's going to get pissed off because someone else likes the band i do, but i really just don't get how people who generally seem like unintelligent jerks with no regard for anyone but other like-minded white dudes would like something with the emotional depth and complexity of NIN.

/rant

dude I love you muchly but stop commenting in the spotting thread! :-) :-) :-)

as for your comment... yeah, I dont really know. outside of this board, I've really felt pretty alone in my NIN-love for years now, so it's always weird to me to go to see shows and see hundreds of people into them, no matter what subculture they're in

that said, I think NIN has got an amazing reputation for live shows, and people who wanna get fucked up at concerts could do a lot worse than a nin show for raw aggression

Halo Infinity
09-16-2014, 09:38 PM
I thought I'd also take it here. With the "bros" or "jocks" at Nine Inch Nails concerts, I was always under the impression that they just found a way to use the aggression they've gotten from Broken and The Downward Spiral, but clearly not in a good way from the looks of it. I could obviously be wrong, but that's my been my guess so far whenever it came to that topic.

kel
09-16-2014, 10:45 PM
i'm a t-shirt and jeans kind of guy who often wears baseball caps to nin shows. and sometimes it's even (gasp!) backwards. i've been stone cold sober at every show. here's the thing -- drunken jerks who look like "bros" are no worse than judgemental goths who've tried to make me feel like i don't belong there, as if i'm a lesser fan.

i should say that this hasn't happened since probably 2005 (in line at the first reno club show, you would've thought i had the plague -- i went by myself and tried to talk to those around me, but had back after back turn once they eyed me up and down). it's like the nin live community (at least to me) as a whole grew up after the wt shows.

yay for that.

nooneimportant
09-16-2014, 10:53 PM
I got pretty lucky when I saw them in August. The Amphitheatre was silent during "The Frail" and you could hear a pin drop. When he went into the final notes and transitioned into "The Wretched" it was sick. Wasn't expecting that for the show I went to.

eversonpoe
09-17-2014, 08:51 AM
i'm a t-shirt and jeans kind of guy who often wears baseball caps to nin shows. and sometimes it's even (gasp!) backwards. i've been stone cold sober at every show. here's the thing -- drunken jerks who look like "bros" are no worse than judgemental goths who've tried to make me feel like i don't belong there, as if i'm a lesser fan.

i should say that this hasn't happened since probably 2005 (in line at the first reno club show, you would've thought i had the plague -- i went by myself and tried to talk to those around me, but had back after back turn once they eyed me up and down). it's like the nin live community (at least to me) as a whole grew up after the wt shows.

yay for that.

honestly, i don't give a crap what someone wears, i was just using that as an example, because the people who tend to have that attitude at shows are usually dressed like that. i don't like it when anyone is a dick, regardless of bro-status or goth-status. when you're at a concert, the collective audience attitude is important to being able to enjoy the show. if most of the people there are elitist assholes (in one direction or another), you're gonna have a bad time.

p.s. sorry, screwdriver. i was just commenting in the thread where the relevant item was posted. i didn't know we weren't supposed to discuss things in that thread. i'll make sure i move it over here next time ;)

Halo Infinity
09-17-2014, 02:02 PM
@elevenism (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=2475) - After having bad luck with headphones for quite some time, it's pretty sweet knowing that I actually don't have to put the volume all the way up on my Sades headphones whenever I'm listening to the regular version of Pretty Hate Machine. Like Hesitation Marks, it sounded thicker and deeper than it ever did to me before, and it just feels so great knowing that it's only from the regular 1989 version. I'm definitely supporting this brand of headphones, and I hope it lasts.

I also hope that you like it too, should you ever give it a shot. It just occurred to me more and more after testing my Sades headphones on Pretty Hate Machine several times, and thought that I'd state this once more. :D

elevenism
09-17-2014, 02:04 PM
Kris , i am so fucking bad at physical reality. I would never buy expensive headphones because i would promptly lose or break them.

Halo Infinity
09-17-2014, 04:44 PM
I've unfortunately gone through the same problem. However, my Sades are just for my computer, and after learning the hard way so many times, I know not to sleep or lie down with headphones ever again, perhaps with the exception of AcousticSheep SleepPhones. (I also have ASMR, so I was even more tempted to do that lots of times.)

http://www.sleepphones.com/

I just hope that there's also Sades for iPods as well. In the meantime, I just stuck to using Panasonic again, which I'm cool with anyway. And well, to fit this into another random NIN thought, I noticed that as of now, Pretty Hate Machine, The Fragile, With Teeth and Hesitation Marks are my most favorite Nine Inch Nails albums to test headphones on.

seasonsinthesky
09-17-2014, 05:45 PM
well, i got the shipping notification for my Hesitation Marks orders.

... a year later. today. ​what?

Prettybrokenspiral
09-17-2014, 07:24 PM
honestly, i don't give a crap what someone wears, i was just using that as an example, because the people who tend to have that attitude at shows are usually dressed like that. i don't like it when anyone is a dick, regardless of bro-status or goth-status. when you're at a concert, the collective audience attitude is important to being able to enjoy the show. if most of the people there are elitist assholes (in one direction or another), you're gonna have a bad time.


Hahaha at bro-status and goth-status assholes at NIN shows. I've seen these tards before. One dude at the 2009 Ninja in NY was all decked out -- in the middle of summer -- in his goth regalia and acting like an elitist asshole to the people outside of his shitty little goth clique. At the security check, he was asked to remove the spiked belt he was wearing, and when he refused because his oversized black Juggalo jeans would have fallen off his scrawny ass, they wouldn't let him in and he threw a little goth hissy fit.

One of the funniest things I've ever seen at a show, NIN or other. Myself and the others around me openly pointed and laughed at this doof as we filed in past him and his bewildered gang of pseudo-misfits. Do not pass go, do not meet Trent, and Livenation keeps your $200 ticket price, asswipe :eek:

GulDukat
09-17-2014, 07:58 PM
Hahaha at bro-status and goth-status assholes at NIN shows. I've seen these tards before. One dude at the 2009 Ninja in NY was all decked out -- in the middle of summer -- in his goth regalia and acting like an elitist asshole to the people outside of his shitty little goth clique. At the security check, he was asked to remove the spiked belt he was wearing, and when he refused because his oversized black Juggalo jeans would have fallen off his scrawny ass, they wouldn't let him in and he threw a little goth hissy fit.

One of the funniest things I've ever seen at a show, NIN or other. Myself and the others around me openly pointed and laughed at this doof as we filed in past him and his bewildered gang of pseudo-misfits. Do not pass go, do not meet Trent, and Livenation keeps your $200 ticket price, asswipe :eek:

I thought that most people outgrew that kind of shit after high school... The internet has shown me otherwise.

Omega
09-18-2014, 11:30 AM
i should say that this hasn't happened since probably 2005 (in line at the first reno club show, you would've thought i had the plague -- i went by myself and tried to talk to those around me, but had back after back turn once they eyed me up and down). it's like the nin live community (at least to me) as a whole grew up after the wt shows.

yay for that.

Ditto on everything in this quote. I was at that show, and had sort of the same experience at that show and at couple others, lol. I would have talked to ya:). I noticed on this last tour, there seems to have been some maturity..which made it a better experience overall. The people in line still could have been friendlier but the ppl in the crowd during the show were for the most part, very nice and courteous. Was a nice change. Really was the best NIN crowd I have been in. The last show I went to was during LITS...ya, the crowd was much better this time! lol. I was like..ooh, ppl grew up, very cool, this makes it so much better. There was a huge age range this time around too, which could play a part.

kel
09-18-2014, 02:51 PM
Ditto on everything in this quote. I was at that show, and had sort of the same experience at that show and at couple others, lol. I would have talked to ya:). I noticed on this last tour, there seems to have been some maturity..which made it a better experience overall. The people in line still could have been friendlier but the ppl in the crowd during the show were for the most part, very nice and courteous. Was a nice change. Really was the best NIN crowd I have been in. The last show I went to was during LITS...ya, the crowd was much better this time! lol. I was like..ooh, ppl grew up, very cool, this makes it so much better. There was a huge age range this time around too, which could play a part.
once inside the theater, the crowd was great. i was dead center on the rail that looked down on the small pit. i met a girl and her brother who were very nice and a lot of fun to dance with.

how weird was that booth seating?

Omega
09-18-2014, 03:59 PM
Lol...I don't remember the booth seating much but did remember it being kinda strange. Idk. Like it looked like the seating was for something else besides a concert? Like it was just like a casino lounge thing going on, then the pit? Haha.

jonhedoesit
09-18-2014, 04:02 PM
You dance at a NIN concert? You're obviously not a REAL NIN fan lol.

kel
09-18-2014, 04:05 PM
Lol...I don't remember the booth seating much but did remember it being kinda strange. Idk. Like it looked like the seating was for something else besides a concert? Like it was just like a casino lounge thing going on, then the pit? Haha.
i guess it was designed for performers like frank sinatra. the booths were a hideous lavender color. a weird but awesome place (and so tiny!) to see a band like nin. totally unforgettable.

i hate myself for selling my f/r/d litho to that guy who used to facilitate the spiral entrances. i got $300 for it, but fuck me for doing that ...

Omega
09-18-2014, 04:19 PM
Lol, I don't remember lavender, haha. But yes, it was a very cool venue, everyone got a good view cause it was pretty small. Guess that's why they went there twice..like Red Rocks.

What is an f/r/d litho?

jessamineny
09-18-2014, 06:27 PM
Lol, I don't remember lavender, haha. But yes, it was a very cool venue, everyone got a good view cause it was pretty small. Guess that's why they went there twice..like Red Rocks.

What is an f/r/d litho?

Fresno/Reno/Davis (http://nincatalog.com/item.asp?key=01-90183). The first club show, and the only true litho. IIRC, a bunch were damaged by water (??) so fewer were sold/in circulation

nooneimportant
09-19-2014, 07:19 AM
Before David Letterman finishes hosting his show, I think NIN should finally perform there. Seems like a good time to do so. I would love a "Live on Letterman" streamed set.

r_k_f
09-19-2014, 01:18 PM
Before David Letterman finishes hosting his show, I think NIN should finally perform there. Seems like a good time to do so. I would love a "Live on Letterman" streamed set.

yes.......

kleiner
09-20-2014, 12:04 PM
It'll never happen, but damn would it be great if Trent and Atticus were to score a Silent Hill game. That role belongs to Akira Yamaoka, but considering he seems done with the series, and how he's openly cited NIN as a strong influence in the past to begin with, I could see them doing a great job at it.

Airbornefeline
09-20-2014, 09:43 PM
When do you guys think Trent will stop playing songs like March of The Pigs and Wish live? He's turning 50 soon and for me at least, the thought of him playing these angry songs he wrote decades ago is a bit weird. Assuming that NIN will tour again, when do you think the expiration date for these songs are? I'd assume that would have to be soon. Trent playing March of The Pigs at age 60 is a really crazy thought.

sentient02970
09-20-2014, 09:50 PM
Those songs will get sung until he can't sing anymore. Although I have had enough of hearing Terrible Lie at every show. That one hit its expiration for me like 3 shows ago.

nooneimportant
09-20-2014, 10:26 PM
When do you guys think Trent will stop playing songs like March of The Pigs and Wish live? He's turning 50 soon and for me at least, the thought of him playing these angry songs he wrote decades ago is a bit weird. Assuming that NIN will tour again, when do you think the expiration date for these songs are? I'd assume that would have to be soon. Trent playing March of The Pigs at age 60 is a really crazy thought.

If it feels right, he will continue to do it. I think the one thing he doesn't want to do is put himself out way past his expiration date. He clearly doesn't want to be a nostalgia act and that's why his shows have been much more than just "Hi, here's a song, bye!"

allegro
09-20-2014, 11:28 PM
If it's any consolation, here's Iggy at 56 singing "Loose" with the Stooges ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKhuadIq62o

Halo Infinity
09-21-2014, 09:59 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4K4r2gxIkU

Halo Infinity
09-21-2014, 10:00 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9BfvPjsXXw

Halo Infinity
09-21-2014, 10:01 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4lTMOmH8Dw

Halo Infinity
09-21-2014, 10:02 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omWQzYycyJk

Halo Infinity
09-21-2014, 02:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHB-bCZQQ3o

Halo Infinity
09-21-2014, 03:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAgVaOGXgRE

Halo Infinity
09-21-2014, 03:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7vxCMRLHHo

Halo Infinity
09-21-2014, 03:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqeK8Ir97t8

Halo Infinity
09-21-2014, 03:30 PM
All right, I suppose that I'm done for now as these were some of my favorite findings concerning The Fragile. The Fragile has clearly meant a lot me, and it still does, as it was on my mind all day. :p


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfzPlh-eSwY

Halo Infinity
09-21-2014, 06:21 PM
I'm sorry. I don't know how this slipped my mind. Just one more for the road.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWMsQ6Yx_Ps

cahernandez
09-22-2014, 12:48 PM
This past weekend I finally watched the movie "Walk The Line". About a year ago (a bit more, maybe) I bought "Live at Folsom Prison" (first Johnny Cash album I've ever had) and was completely moved by it (I would go on record saying this is the best live album I've heard by any artist, for many reasons), and I put "Walk The Line" on the list of movies I wanted to watch, for some reason I delayed it until this past Saturday. What a superb movie. I bring this up in this particular thread because the movie made me realize that Cash was THE artist that should had covered Hurt. And, like TR said, I think Johnny Cash absolutely owns the song now, seeing what he went through. There's that line in the movie, when he is in his house in TN, and he tells June "all I do is hurt everyone around me" or something to that effect. When you hear the lyrics of Hurt, you truly believe that Cash could had penned it easily. What a guy.

If I LOVED Folsom Prison...which Johnny Cash album should I get next?

sheepdean
09-22-2014, 01:03 PM
This past weekend I finally watched the movie "Walk The Line". About a year ago (a bit more, maybe) I bought "Live at Folsom Prison" (first Johnny Cash album I've ever had) and was completely moved by it (I would go on record saying this is the best live album I've heard by any artist, for many reasons), and I put "Walk The Line" on the list of movies I wanted to watch, for some reason I delayed it until this past Saturday. What a superb movie. I bring this up in this particular thread because the movie made me realize that Cash was THE artist that should had covered Hurt. And, like TR said, I think Johnny Cash absolutely owns the song now, seeing what he went through. There's that line in the movie, when he is in his house in TN, and he tells June "all I do is hurt everyone around me" or something to that effect. When you hear the lyrics of Hurt, you truly believe that Cash could had penned it easily. What a guy.

If I LOVED Folsom Prison...which Johnny Cash album should I get next?

This should probably go in the Cash thread, but hey: At San Quentin is the kinda obvious answer, a just as good live album at a prison. But I'd also add you should get American IV: The Man Comes Around, because that has Hurt on, along with other great covers.

dlb
09-23-2014, 01:06 PM
Dear lord, copy of a gets so much better when you see Trent getting into it like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or1-k9-l_hM

Two hour NIN set with just Trent bobbing his head and twiddling on some synth? Count me in! :D

pwing47
09-23-2014, 01:53 PM
Dear lord, copy of a gets so much better when you see Trent getting into it like this

Nice video! This was one of my fav CoA performances of the tour. I didn't notice at the time how much Trent was into it here, but looking back and comparing to the other shows I was at, he seems a lot more energetic. Maybe cuz it was early in the tour?

I was down in the pit area, and the weird thing is that it was almost 1/3 (or more) empty during this song (SG fans off getting drinks, mostly likely). And dozens of ppl in first several rows were sitting throughout. Meanwhile I was in 100% rock-out mode probably looking like an insane ragdoll :D


Two hour NIN set with just Trent bobbing his head and twiddling on some synth? Count me in!

Yes. The encore would be TGD concluded by a two hour breakdown with trippy visuals.

nooneimportant
09-23-2014, 11:28 PM
Nice video! This was one of my fav CoA performances of the tour. I didn't notice at the time how much Trent was into it here, but looking back and comparing to the other shows I was at, he seems a lot more energetic. Maybe cuz it was early in the tour?

When I saw them (Aug. 27th) towards the end of the tour, he was still super into it and twirling around and jamming out during Copy of A. Also threw the mic in the air during The Wretched when he was trying to sing "and it keeps on coming" but the mic wasn't working, got a good laugh out of that.

pwing47
09-24-2014, 12:57 AM
When I saw them (Aug. 27th) towards the end of the tour, he was still super into it and twirling around and jamming out during Copy of A. Also threw the mic in the air during The Wretched when he was trying to sing "and it keeps on coming" but the mic wasn't working, got a good laugh out of that.

Haha, pretty awesome. I think when all is said and done, CoA will be one of my fav NIN songs.

First time I saw it was during the live stream of Lolla '13 in Chicago (first time North America saw that set). I'll quote my friend, who was watching with: "Holy God, what is happening :O"

nooneimportant
09-24-2014, 03:35 AM
Haha, pretty awesome. I think when all is said and done, CoA will be one of my fav NIN songs.

First time I saw it was during the live stream of Lolla '13 in Chicago (first time North America saw that set). I'll quote my friend, who was watching with: "Holy God, what is happening :O"

It really is an incredible way to start a show. I especially love when he does a little improv and morphs the opening synth, jamming on it for about 30 seconds like at the Lollapalooza show.

I'd say Copy of A and Somewhat Damaged are the best openers for NIN shows.

Ink
09-24-2014, 11:41 AM
The version from Fuji Rock is still the best imo. Great sound, great filming, and you can hear the crowd is really into it. And the whole show is flawless. Once, I watched it focusing on the light show. That particular stream constists almost exclusively of panoramic shots, so one can truely see how elaborate it is.