Type O Negative

[Ryan]

Latest release (RIP Pete):

http://www.recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/5149

Type O Negative Type O Negative Vinyl Box Set

DETAILS
Format: Vinyl Box Set
Label: Roadrunner
Release type:
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The vinyl box includes all Roadrunner released Type O Negative material contained within one collector's box. Each album will be issued on double green vinyl, with the album art recreated, including the controversial, rarely seen original cover of The Origin of the Feces. Type O fans know all about that cover and the anatomy which it features. Each album will also have new, branded liner notes documenting the genesis and completion of each album. An exclusive sticker sheet with six mini bumper stickers will also be included in this "must own" set for Type O Negative diehards. It's an instant collector's item. This set includes the following releases: Slow, Deep and Hard, The Origin of the Feces, Bloody Kisses, October Rust, World Coming Down, Life Is Killing Me

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[Totally]

How much & how ltd is this baby?

[Ryan]

1,000 copies

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LP-RSD-2011-Green-Vinyl-Type-O-Negative-Black-Friday-Box-Set-New-Sealed-Limited-/320804791112?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab174a348

[Maximilian]

I bought it online at a store called Looney Tunes. Gonna save it for a rainy day.

[Wolfkiller]

Bought two sets at Looney Tunes. Now I need to invest in a quality record player....

[bobbie solo]

they planted a tree in memory of Mr. Steele in Prospect Park. so awesome.

[Ryan]

My "Dead Again" ("Red Again") box now has a companion!

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[seasonsinthesky]

gah. is it that hard to reissue each album on vinyl over the course of a year or something?

[Virtua Afro DJ]

The only thing I didn't like about the box set was how they changed the songs to finish a side of a record. Green Man did not fade out originally.

[Wolfkiller]

The only thing I didn't like about the box set was how they changed the songs to finish a side of a record. Green Man did not fade out originally.


It certainly did not!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpzXHuGqb3E&feature=related

[Virtua Afro DJ]

That... was surprising.

[theimage13]

Does anyone have clear directions on how to find Peter Steele's tree in Prospect Park? I'm working there next weekend, and if I have the time, I'd really like to go find it if it's not too far away. Thanks!

[Ryan]

Play "Green Man" and you'll be drawn to it.

[henryeatscereal]

Does anyone have clear directions on how to find Peter Steele's tree in Prospect Park? I'm working there next weekend, and if I have the time, I'd really like to go find it if it's not too far away. Thanks!
These are the clues, good luck!

https://www.facebook.com/groups/203500079683198/photos/

[Ryan]

Thanks to Wolfkiller and the TON community for getting this out there.

Type O Negative - October Rust Promo Version and Pre-Release Mix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54ugzJNjMR0

[Maximilian]

Thanks for posting that, I don't bother looking at the official forum anymore. It's so dead there now and there's really no bringing it back. Shame.

[Ryan]

There is now with the resurgence of the October Rust demos and perhaps more to come.

[Space Suicide]

There is now with the resurgence of the October Rust demos and perhaps more to come.

Do NOT WANT: NEED!

[henryeatscereal]

^second that

[Wolfkiller]

http://youtu.be/B9mmTSxn8xg
http://youtu.be/9nUQPQSPX0s

[Ryan]

Downloadable files:

Type O Negative - After Dark (Part 1 of 2) - Unreleased (.FLV file; will open in VLC media player) :

http://www.sendspace.com/file/fn4omt

Type O Negative - After Dark (Part 2 of 2) - Unreleased (.FLV file; will open in VLC media player):

http://www.sendspace.com/file/6khew6

[Cameron]

Do you have a decent rip of the Live at the Wacken Open Air? I've got one, but it's not really great quality.

[theimage13]

Anyone else here still have - and watch - a VHS copy of After Dark?

[Ryan]

Peter's last interview from the Living The American Nightmare DVD. It's been spliced together so just the TON footage is all together:

http://vimeo.com/65314308

[aggroculture]

One of my fave TON songs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MHgUoN0fbw

[Highly Psychological]

I love Everything Dies too, Cant believe that interview was only a few weeks before his death he looks really healthy there.

Life is Killing Me is underrated, the production and guitar solo in this track is beautiful. The Cure/The Cult/Curve plus Black Sabbath comes to mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXFUazsIZjc

[henryeatscereal]

^Agreed! "Life is killing me" is my second favorite, my favorite track is "Nettie", i think it's one of the saddest Type O albums, i'm glad it wasn't the last one, since "Dead Again" it's a bit more "upbeat"

[Space Suicide]

This thread bump has given me the inkling to listen to some Type O Negative tonight. Will work swimmingly well when I drive home from work. Type O and night time go together so wonderfully.

[Wolfkiller]

Happy to see so much love for Type O in here. <3

[Sebek]

I've been on a big Type O kick myself lately... it might been a fall / Halloween seasonal thing. I saw them maybe 4-5 times in concert, made me sad to think that these songs will probably never be played live again. Two of the guys were in a new band, no? Never got around to checking that out... any news lately on them?

[Ryan]

I've been on a big Type O kick myself lately... it might been a fall / Halloween seasonal thing. I saw them maybe 4-5 times in concert, made me sad to think that these songs will probably never be played live again. Two of the guys were in a new band, no? Never got around to checking that out... any news lately on them?

The original drummer, Sal Abruscato, formed A Pale Horse Named Death, and they just released their second album Lay My Soul To Waste which is AMAZING. Kenny formed Seventh Void but hasn't done much more with that apart from release one record called Heaven Is Gone.

APHND is currently on tour with Danzig. Essential listening. Ironic how the original TON drummer is now on vocals, and Johnny Kelly plays drums for APHND.

APHND are probably in my top 5 favorite bands now. I like to look at this project as a continuation of TON and Peter's spirit lives on in it. Listen to these songs:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjtM5QJOvRk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvIiBuBx7vQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cK-OJDnpSI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V9RKxRmWGg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgwiQHvxUjU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVVDQwKsf4A



Shallow Grave live:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv_c_IGgzFU

[henryeatscereal]

^ didn't knew about "A pale Horse called Death", good stuff!

On Topic: I'm "rating" the Type O, albums just for the kicks, i love them all obviously i'm just arranging them from my favorite to my least favorite...

1. Bloody Kisses
2. Life is Killing Me
3. October Rust
4. World Coming Down
6. Slow, Deep, Hard
7. Origin of the feces
8. Dead Again

...still, they never recorded a bad album!

[Senateguard33]

Here's how I would rate them.

1. October Rust
2. Bloody Kisses
3. World Coming Down
4. Origin of the Feces
5. Dead Again
6. Life Is Killing Me
7. Slow, Deep and Hard (I felt these songs are presented WAY better on OOTF)

[Ryan]

Pretty awesome:

A Guide to TON's Borrowed and Derivative Riffs
http://forum.typeonegative.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=41644

So, I created a thread devoted to cataloging the riffs Type O borrowed over the years, but it was eaten by the board. I'm trying to put that list back together, but this time in a Google Doc spreadsheet (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0ArjZ5sK94QMLdE1ybm43bUtsenlmOG9qTm9mTXFsb Wc&output=html) for posterity.

So help me out and fill in the missing pieces. I know there were more examples on the old list.

[Ryan]

http://www.bravewords.com/news/220801

Metal Blade To Release TYPE O NEGATIVE, KARMA TO BURN Vinyl For Record Store Day Rarities Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2014 at 21:59:08 EST

In celebration of Record Store Day 2014 on April 19th, Metal Blade Records will be releasing two exclusive vinyl pressings.

TYPE O NEGATIVE's Slow Deep And Hard, and KARMA TO BURN's self-titled album will be released as double 180 gram vinyl in gatefold sleeves. The vinyl will be available at participating Record Store Day locations. To find a retailer near you, click here (http://recordstoreday.com/).

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[Charmingly Miserable]

I got into TON very late in the game (like about 3 years ago). I love how they were very tongue in cheek. RIP Peter.

[NotoriousTIMP]

My very first concert was Type O Negative in 1997 during the October Rust Tour. I was 15 years old and Peter kept talking about how good his alcoholic gatorade was......

[Space Suicide]

This is stupid necroposting but listening to the band earlier (Bloody Kisses) made me realize something. With all the musician deaths and premature talent endings in the music industry, Peter Steele's passing is the ONLY one that actually pisses me off and makes me upset to a degree. I know I don't personally know the man or his family or band mates but fuck, it's such a horrible loss. Seriously. Even 4 years later. Damn. :(

For laughs, as I always find this hilarious to watch:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhNRHI64m9U

[elevenism]

I saw Type O on October Rust too, in dallas.
I met peter that night, and he humbly thanked me for spending my money to come to the show, said he knew i worked hard for it and it meant a lot to him that i would buy a ticket. The only part of that night that i didn't like was someone on type o's crew trying to get my girl and her best friend (who was secretly kinda my girl too) backstage, along with a third girl who was with me. They said that the band wanted to hang out with us, but oh, geez, they only had three backstage passes so how about the girls come back first and then...luckily one of the girls knew what time it was, lolz.

I was sixteen, and needless to say, peter's words meant a WHOLE lot to me.
He was always humble and self effacing (like calling their best of the "least worst of.")
It really broke my heart when he died. He was such a hopeless romantic and i related to that a lot.

October is definitely type o season. I have a tradition of blasting Creepy Green Light on October 1st.
I think my favorite album of theirs is WCD.

edit:don't feel stupid about your post, Space Suicide . i know how you feel and i think a lot of the rest of us do too. Peter really seemed to share his essence with us through his lyrics and he made music for the broken hearted. i think that's why he is so sorely missed.

[WorzelG]

I saw Type O Negative pretty much every time they came to London, he did seem quite ill last time, which would have been 2000 and something, 2007? He was sat down most of the show. We saw him in 1999 at the Astoria the day after seeing NIN on the Fragility tour. They were playing the same night (as NIN were doing two nights) and Pete Steele thanked everyone for not going to see NIN!

[Ryan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLfa5V0uF-Q

[Maximilian]

I miss and think about Type O all the time, one of my top 5 bands for sure.

I saw them twice back in the Bloody Kisses days and met them another night when they were supposed to play, but Pantera cancelled the show because the venue wouldn't take the seats off the floor.

I've got that vinyl box set that came out years ago, still sealed. It goes for crazy money on eBay even opened.

[ManBurning]

Type O was always on my list of bands that I needed to see live, but for some odd reason would very rarely, if at all, come to Canada. There may have been the odd show in the 90's in Toronto, but he never did a full fledged Canadian tour. I wonder why that was...

Because of this thread popping up, I listened/watched like an hours worth of Type O music videos last night for the first time in years. Classic stuff!

He's also sooooo young in that Jerry Springer clip, wow. Don't blame the girls for throwing themselves at him back then, he was a good looking guy.
His comments are so funny though. "I don't care about the women, i'm just trying to pay my phone bill" haha

[Exocet]

October Rust is a gorgeous album. A real gloomy goth classic, that crushing guitar sound is orgasmic....Its weird how this group never became million sellers in the alt-rock boom in the 90s, with NIN Nirvana or even Alice in Chains or Soundgarden etc.
They had some real hits on their albums a great image but they never cracked the top 50.

[Aywok]

I find listening to Type O these days semi-eerie, with the "obsession" with death and references to heart attacks. That being said, Type O Negative is one of maybe 10 groups or so that I discovered in high school and still listen to on a constant basis.

October Rust is an absolute masterpiece. Wolf Moon, Haunted (the Per version is awesome), Love You To Death, Bacchus; shit, the entire album, even the "throw-away" skits.

And who can forget 'Bloody Kisses'? I always wondered why Suspended In Dusk never made the final cut. Can't Lose You as a closing track makes me want to tear up every time.

[henryeatscereal]

Never saw Type O, live and that pisses me off a lot...

[Wolfkiller]

Type O is the only band that dethrones NIN for me personally. It breaks my heart knowing I'll never see them live ever again and we'll never hear any more new music. They never put out a bad album. I don't think I can even think of any songs that I ever find myself skipping really, unless I'm in a certain mood. I can't say that for anyone else I've listened to over the years.

[Ryan]

Has anyone here read this and is it any good? I remember the remaining band members didn't want to contribute to it for whatever reason. Just ordered a copy -

http://www.petersteelebio.com

[Arcspiral]

Has anyone here read this and is it any good? I remember the remaining band members didn't want to contribute to it for whatever reason. Just ordered a copy -

http://www.petersteelebio.com


I did. I ordered the book months ago and devoured the e-book in a matter of days. When the physical book showed up a month or so later, I read it again. It was a fascinating read that was meticulously researched and thought out. Personally, I loved it. Type O has always been one of my favorite bands, so it was nice to have a book about them.

Now, if I could only track down that vinyl boxset.....

[Ryan]

I did. I ordered the book months ago and devoured the e-book in a matter of days. When the physical book showed up a month or so later, I read it again. It was a fascinating read that was meticulously researched and thought out. Personally, I loved it. Type O has always been one of my favorite bands, so it was nice to have a book about them.

Now, if I could only track down that vinyl boxset.....

Awesome! I wish the band members contributed. Did Sal contribute?

I has a sealed copy of the vinyl box set. ;-)

[Arcspiral]

Awesome! I wish the band members contributed. Did Sal contribute?

I has a sealed copy of the vinyl box set. ;-)

There was a little blurb from Sal, and there was quite a bit from the Carnivore guys too. I had a pretty wide understanding of the Type O world prior to the book, but I learned a lot more after reading Soul on Fire. Especially about the Dead Again era and towards the end of Peter's life (which I will warn you, does get kind of emotional).

I became a Type O fan right before October Rust came out and was lucky enough to see them on the World Coming Down tour. I always intended to see them again, but kept putting it off until it was too late. At least I saw them once.

I don't suppose that box set would be up for sale/trade negotiations??? It's a longshot but worth asking...

[Ryan]

There was a little blurb from Sal, and there was quite a bit from the Carnivore guys too. I had a pretty wide understanding of the Type O world prior to the book, but I learned a lot more after reading Soul on Fire. Especially about the Dead Again era and towards the end of Peter's life (which I will warn you, does get kind of emotional).

I became a Type O fan right before October Rust came out and was lucky enough to see them on the World Coming Down tour. I always intended to see them again, but kept putting it off until it was too late. At least I saw them once.

I don't suppose that box set would be up for sale/trade negotiations??? It's a longshot but worth asking...

Nah, don't want to part with it really.

I can imagine the DA era would be pretty emotional to read about. I downloaded the eBook version but I'm old fashioned and prefer actual books, so will wait for the physical product to arrive before I dig in.

[Ryan]

Random question:

As we all know, the original version of Summer Breeze that TON covered by Seals & Crofts was called Summer Girl with different, more obscene lyrics and transitioned right into Set Me On Fire, making it one, long 8+ minute track that was available on a promo CD. Seals & Crofts didn't like it, and made them re-record it with the original lyrics, and then Set Me On Fire comes after it on the album as a seperate track.

I remember reading a long time ago that the digipak, re-released version of Bloody Kisses has a lyric booklet that contains the lyrics for the originally intended version of Summer Girl. Is this true? And if so does anyone have a scan they can provide? Wolfkiller ?

[elevenism]

hey have you guys seen Nosferatu-The First Vampire?

It's Nosferatu but with type o for the soundtrack.

i saw it years ago and wanted to see it again so i dug it up on you tube and watched it.

it's pretty fucking cool

[Arcspiral]

Yup. The original lyrics are in the digi version.

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[Ryan]

Yup. The original lyrics are in the digi version.

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So the lyrics for Summer Girl are printed in the digipak, but Summer Breeze is on the CD itself. Weird how they did it like that.

[Wolfkiller]

I'm out of town at the moment so I can't take a picture of my copy, sorry. I never understood why they needed permission to use the alt lyrics. They should have just pulled a Weird Al and called it a parody.

[Wolfkiller]

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[henryeatscereal]

Didn't Pete also used to sing "Summer Breeze" as a reference to pills? "Some of these... make me feel fine..." etc... i thought that was the version you guys were talking about...

[Ryan]

Didn't Pete also used to sing "Summer Breeze" as a reference to pills? "Some of these... make me feel fine..." etc... i thought that was the version you guys were talking about...

Never heard of that before!

[henryeatscereal]

Never heard of that before!
I think Pete comments this on the liner notes of the digipack version of "Bloody Kisses", as soon i'm home i'll check and let you know...

[henryeatscereal]

Ok, sorry for the delay Ryan, last couple of days, i've been between my work and house but only to eat/sleep and work so i didn't had the time to check my "Bloody Kisses" booklet and post about "Summer Breeze", but here it is (I'll transcript the whole context of the question asked about the song...)


Q: Whose idea was it to cover "Summer Breeze"
A: Hickey: It certainly wasn't me -i never liked the song.. But Peter grew up listening to that kind of soft rock -he got it from his sisters. I like ou version; I just don't like the original. It's elevator rock. It makes me feel like i'm sitting at the dentist, waiting to get a molar removed.
Steele: Most bands like to take heavy songs and redo them as if they can do them better. I like to take light songs and turn them into something heavy. I'm not sure exactly how that one came abut, but i think at rehearsal about 4,000 years ago, I said to Kenny, "Play this fuckin' riff". Someone in the band had some pills, and we were chewing them up and swallowing them, so i started singing, "Some of these make me feel fine".

So there it is, i always thought they might have recorded another version for the song with alternative lyrics (just like they did with their "Black Sabbath" cover) and that the other version had the "pills" lyrics, but "Summer Girl", never mentions the pills.

[Wolfkiller]

Maybe there is a demo version like that sitting in Josh's basement that will never see the light of day. :(

[EndlessLoveless]

Weve got b sides from WCD but thats it right? Maybe one from LIKM. Too bad there isnt any more. I find it hard to believe that everything theyve ever recorded is released but i think i read Josh saying just that.

edit 1- Also, two songs that wouldve sounded perfect as TON covers....'the black widow" by alice cooper (specifically the the ending part, you can just imagine the gang vocals and pete's 'ooh's and ah's fitting perfectly), and 'suppers ready' by genesis.

edit 2- fav part of a TON song, the 'chorus' and outro of a dish best served coldly....the "how many times...part. Perfection.

[henryeatscereal]

I certainly hope they release some of their demos or/and B-sides, that's why i loved the digipack version of Bloody Kisses, the special edition of "Life is Killing Me", also has a great "bonus CD", maybe it's time to release a "Type O Box" with all the "lost" stuff in one place...

[EndlessLoveless]

I wouldve even bought that vinyl set a few years back if it had dead again with it. (roadrunner deal)

[Arcspiral]

I certainly hope they release some of their demos or/and B-sides, that's why i loved the digipack version of Bloody Kisses, the special edition of "Life is Killing Me", also has a great "bonus CD", maybe it's time to release a "Type O Box" with all the "lost" stuff in one place...

Also, how about a vinyl reissue of World Coming Down? That's one of my favorite albums of all time and it can only be found in that damn boxset. It feels like hunting for a white whale trying to find that stupid thing.

[henryeatscereal]

I also missed the "Vinyl set" but it would be great to be able to buy them again, either as the box or as "single discs".
As for the "B sides" box, i imagine a boxset with 4 CD's: B-Sides, Live Tracks, Covers and Remixes, i would buy ASAP.

[Ryan]

Weve got b sides from WCD but thats it right? Maybe one from LIKM. Too bad there isnt any more. I find it hard to believe that everything theyve ever recorded is released but i think i read Josh saying just that.

Pretty much, but they were then released on The Least Worst Of.

Which b-side are you referring to from LIKM? The promo CD had those alternate mixes, and Drunk In Paris is called Loud And Queer and sounds reasonably different.

[Shadaloo]

This thread being active is making me miss them all over again. :(

[EndlessLoveless]

Pretty much, but they were then released on The Least Worst Of.

Which b-side are you referring to from LIKM? The promo CD had those alternate mixes, and Drunk In Paris is called Loud And Queer and sounds reasonably different.

On the LIKM bonus disk, isnt there an instrumental Out of the Fire? Sounds like it was recorded during that era. Also Highway Star sounds LIKM-ish. I love Drunk in Paris. Not sure if ive heard the alt.

[Wolfkiller]

On the LIKM bonus disk, isnt there an instrumental Out of the Fire? Sounds like it was recorded during that era. Also Highway Star sounds LIKM-ish. I love Drunk in Paris. Not sure if ive heard the alt.

Out Of The Fire was recorded for the WWE but they didn't end up using it and Highway Star was for a Nascar soundtrack I think.
I too don't believe it when they say everything is out. There has to be demos for at least every album after Origin Of The Feces. They mentioned Dead Again being cut way down because they jammed on most of the songs and it was super long. There just HAS to be more stuff, I think they just have zero interest in putting it out.

[henryeatscereal]

On the LIKM bonus disk, isnt there an instrumental Out of the Fire? Sounds like it was recorded during that era. Also Highway Star sounds LIKM-ish. I love Drunk in Paris. Not sure if ive heard the alt.
Wasn't "Out of the Fire" a "proposed" theme song for the WWE Wrestler Kane? (for all non wrestling fans: Kane's song in the WWE is called "Out of the Fire" and sounds similar to the one Type O, did...)

[Arcspiral]

There just HAS to be more stuff, I think they just have zero interest in putting it out.

Truer words have never been spoken...

[Wolfkiller]

Wasn't "Out of the Fire" a "proposed" theme song for the WWE Wrestler Kane? (for all non wrestling fans: Kane's song in the WWE is called "Out of the Fire" and sounds similar to the one Type O, did...)

You are correct. WWE went with a more nu-metal batch of bands at that point instead of investing in good music. The day The Undertaker came out to Limp fucking Bizkit was when wrestling died to me. :(

[henryeatscereal]

You are correct. WWE went with a more nu-metal batch of bands at that point instead of investing in good music. The day The Undertaker came out to Limp fucking Bizkit was when wrestling died to me. :(
"Out of the Fire" was so much better than that horrible "Slow Chemical" song Finger Eleven did, wish Kane used the Type O, song instead...

[EndlessLoveless]

Both of those songs have the LIKM sound to me though. That drum sound is so distinct.

Josh seems to want to act like none of it happened unfortunately. Its sad.

[elevenism]

this is kind of random but WCD wound up being my favorite.

I remember during a particularly dark depression in about 2000, i kind of locked myself in my room and listened to it on repeat for about 3 days.

it seems like the first (and only) truly serious type o record

[Ryan]

Out Of The Fire was recorded for the WWE but they didn't end up using it and Highway Star was for a Nascar soundtrack I think.
I too don't believe it when they say everything is out. There has to be demos for at least every album after Origin Of The Feces. They mentioned Dead Again being cut way down because they jammed on most of the songs and it was super long. There just HAS to be more stuff, I think they just have zero interest in putting it out.

Like how the Per Version of Haunted came out in 2003 and was from 1996!

[Ryan]

What were working titles of albums and songs? I remember World Coming Down was to be called Aggroculture or The Profit$ Of Doom at one point.

And "...A Dish Best Served Coldly" was going to be called "Truth Decay".

[henryeatscereal]

I just know that "Slow, Deep and Hard" was originally going to be titled "None More Negative".

[Ryan]

This will keep me entertained for a while.


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[EndlessLoveless]

This will keep me entertained for a while.


http://i57.tinypic.com/2dumh47.jpg

God seeing a green pic with the words around the corners makes me sad. I miss them. That looks really cool. Let us know how it is.

[W Axl Rose]

Of the many Type O shows that I saw beginning in 1993,only once did I meet Peter Steele. This was the LIKM Tour in Syracuse,NY 2003. He just came out and sat down and talked to the fans that were still hanging around. I don't think he disliked meeting fans but maybe he was more of a private or shy person offstage.

https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/l/t1.0-9/26531_412122692455_1054079_n.jpg?oh=4dd5c4c9464fbe 7fe3383bed969e2233&oe=554AEEC4

[Ryan]

This little guy arrived today... Wolfkiller


http://i59.tinypic.com/23t2put.jpg

[Charmingly Miserable]

Ryan You know I'm jealous.

[Wolfkiller]

Ryan Sexy. Gimme that. :D

[Ryan]

Where are people posting at now that the official forum is gone aside from Facebook, which I don't use?

[Wolfkiller]

Jus varioust Facebook groups, as far as I know. Sorry homie.

[Ryan]

Jus varioust Facebook groups, as far as I know. Sorry homie.

Kinda makes me want to register a new domain and set up a forum.

If I did that would you help spread the word?

[Ryan]

Kinda makes me want to register a new domain and set up a forum.

If I did that would you help spread the word?

I've registered a domain - more info soon.

[Wolfkiller]

Absolutely, sir! I'd love a new forum.

[Ryan]

Brilliant! Just sorting out some connectivity issues. I think I'll just opt with a free phpbb forum and give it a black and green theme.

[Ryan]

Wolfkiller - http://www.typeonegative.co

[Wolfkiller]

Ryan I posted the link at all the groups I'm a part of on Facebook. I'll bump it again when the forums are active!

[Space Suicide]

@Wolfkiller (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=675) - http://www.typeonegative.co

I'll bite when it's up.

[Ryan]

Cheers guys!

[henryeatscereal]

I just saw you site announced on the facebook group i attend, cool!

I'll join too, can't get enough of Type O...

[Ryan]

I just saw you site announced on the facebook group i attend, cool!

I'll join too, can't get enough of Type O...

Oh, awesome! I'm not on Facebook anymore so that's a good thing.

Can you send me a link?

[henryeatscereal]

Can you send me a link?
No prob, it's a closed facebook group called: "Peter's Tree"

https://www.facebook.com/groups/203500079683198/

The post said:


New unofficial Type O Negative forums coming soon!
http://www.typeonegative.co/

[Ryan]

I chose the .co extension for two reasons:

1) It is reminiscent of TON songs typically cutting off early and suddenly, thus omitting the m in com, and

2) the .com domain is for sale for $13,000

[Ryan]

Update:

I was initially just going to use a free forum, but since I already run a vBulletin forum I'm just going to get another licence and make this a vBulletin as well. Going to put time aside this weekend to get it up and running!

[Ryan]

This little guy arrived today... @Wolfkiller (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=675)


http://i59.tinypic.com/23t2put.jpg



This cutie followed:

P.S. - I have the above and below CDs ripped to mp3 if you want them. Just PM me.


http://i61.tinypic.com/bio49g.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/29zx5wk.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/2im3kmd.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/nxoy6a.jpg

http://i60.tinypic.com/2e5qwrb.jpg

[Wolfkiller]

Ugh I miss getting stuff like that back in the nineties.

[Ryan]

I got it because I've been confused about it for a couple of reasons.

1) Summer Breeze was from Bloody Kisses but this has October Rust artwork,

2) The "new version" of Summer Breeze. Like I just PMed to Space Suicide, I think it was just called that at the time, and is now what we know as the Rick Rubin Remix on The Top Shelf Editon of Bloody Kisses.

...I think...




p.s. - the forum is well underway to be launched within a week now.

[Ryan]

God seeing a green pic with the words around the corners makes me sad. I miss them. That looks really cool. Let us know how it is.

Just finished it and it is a fascinating read; found out some things I didn't know about before, like how Kenny mentions they tried playing Suspended In Dusk live once but the audience hated it. Alternate artworks for albums and titles, etc.

It does get very sad towards the end, and even sadder to now know that what Peter actually died from could have been prevented if he had gone to a hospital sooner and not ignored the vomiting and stomach pain he had.

I had no idea that he even had a new album title, "Double Crossed," in mind for the next record, inspired by one of the images he saw in a church he was attending (a vertical line with a typical horizontal one at the top to make a cross, and one at the bottom), accentuating the motif of him feeling "double crossed" by his sisters institutionalising him and all that.

There are even hand written lyrics printed in the book for a song he was working on for it called Seven Stars. So sad to know he was so ready to record a new record and in a total happy mindset. The final cause of death was necrosis of the organs to due something wrong with a part of his stomach, but he kept ignoring the warning signs and was too concerned at the time with one of his cats who had a tumour and was dying. All so sad.

[Ryan]

P.S. - the cover for that Summer Breeze promo was going to be the cover for October Rust at one stage.

Also, they constantly mention demo versions of Bloody Kisses played to Roadrunner, etc, so there is definitely a lot of stuff yet to be released from the vaults.

[EndlessLoveless]

Ive heard alot on youtube that ive never heard before. The 'demo' for 'pictures of matchstick men' with petes vox, a cover of u2's 'pride' and a few others....they dont sound rough, they sound pretty good. i want it all.

[Space Suicide]

Just finished it and it is a fascinating read; found out some things I didn't know about before, like how Kenny mentions they tried playing Suspended In Dusk live once but the audience hated it. Alternate artworks for albums and titles, etc.

It does get very sad towards the end, and even sadder to now know that what Peter actually died from could have been prevented if he had gone to a hospital sooner and not ignored the vomiting and stomach pain he had.

I had no idea that he even had a new album title, "Double Crossed," in mind for the next record, inspired by one of the images he saw in a church he was attending (a vertical line with a typical horizontal one at the top to make a cross, and one at the bottom), accentuating the motif of him feeling "double crossed" by his sisters institutionalising him and all that.

There are even hand written lyrics printed in the book for a song he was working on for it called Seven Stars. So sad to know he was so ready to record a new record and in a total happy mindset. The final cause of death was necrosis of the organs to due something wrong with a part of his stomach, but he kept ignoring the warning signs and was too concerned at the time with one of his cats who had a tumour and was dying. All so sad.

Nice tidbits, might be worth a buy.

[Ryan]

Nice tidbits, might be worth a buy.

Definitely. Lots of talk about Fallout tracks that I hadn't heard of before too.

Do you know if the original Repulsion cassette has different versions of the songs that made it on Slow, Deep and Hard? Makes me want to track it down now to compare.

[Ryan]

Ive heard alot on youtube that ive never heard before. The 'demo' for 'pictures of matchstick men' with petes vox, a cover of u2's 'pride' and a few others....they dont sound rough, they sound pretty good. i want it all.


That version of Matchstick Men was leaked by Wolfkiller and I. ;)

[Ryan]

The author makes a mistake about "Summer Girl" though, and states that it is in low quality YouTube "limbo" - not the case at all if you have the ? promo CD I have posted above.

[Ryan]

@Wolfkiller (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=675) - http://www.typeonegative.co

Almost launch time. Just getting the color scheme sorted out and systems will be go.

[Maximilian]

I've been playing the shit out of this one lately:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7IGcOh5-Ks

[Ryan]

I'm partial to the Wombs And Tombs mix myself.

[henryeatscereal]

I like the remix version better, you can tell they wanted this one to go in a different direction...

[Ryan]

Wolfkiller Space Suicide henryeatscereal

We are up and running!

Please spread the word on Facebook groups, etc -


http://www.typeonegative.co/forum.php

[Wolfkiller]

Spammed it the fuck out on all the groups and registered as my old name, EvenSnowDies

[henryeatscereal]

I think i will be HenryeatsBloodandFire, lol

[Ryan]

@Wolfkiller (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=675) @Space Suicide (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=532) @henryeatscereal (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1572)

We are up and running!

Please spread the word on Facebook groups, etc -


http://www.typeonegative.co/forum.php


So, we have some quite good discussions going on in these early stages. If you guys could please promote some more that'd be great.

Perhaps even message Johnny and Sal on FB and get them to sign up. I'm eager to hear updates from Sal on there for A Pale Horse Named Death!

[Ryan]

We are having a ball at the new forum but some more regular active members would be cool. Feel free to sign up and join in on the chat.

[Ryan]

My legs are wide open to let the insects in.

[Ryan]

Please
don't
hurt
me.

[Halo Infinity]

@Wolfkiller (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=675) @Space Suicide (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=532) @henryeatscereal (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=1572)

We are up and running!

Please spread the word on Facebook groups, etc -


http://www.typeonegative.co/forum.php
Will do. I'll make sure to let any Type O Negative fans around my way know about your forum, should I encounter them. It really does look very legit and you did a great job on the overall design and sections. I can also definitely relate to this, as I actually hope to create an actual .com or .org forum or two in the future. But yeah, overall, the design is pretty sweet.

I'll also be Kris over there too. :)

[EndlessLoveless]

I joined. Good shit man.

[Ryan]

seasonsinthesky

You may now commence your project!

http://www.typeonegative.co/showthread.php?12-Promo-version-or-final-mix-which-do-you-prefer&p=473

[Ryan]

For anyone interested, seasons has compiled together and edited the final version of LIKM to the pre-mixes, removed the audio watermark and normalised all the audio with my FLAC rip. Be sure to check it out!

[Ryan]

P.S - a while back someone sent me a PM on here of handwritten lyrics by Peter for the song Gimme That from Life Is Killing Me. If said person could kindly re-PM me with an image of it I'd much appreciate it!

[Ryan]

RIP Peter. Five years.

[Maximilian]

He was not exactly thrilled with life, so I assume he would consider that an accomplishment.

Either way RIP.

[ziltoid]

I didn't know that he was fluent in Russian. Which makes sense since I believe he made up a language for the song Enemy of the state. Rest in peace Peter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHMwF9qxFPM&app=desktop

[Shadaloo]

For anyone interested, seasons has compiled together and edited the final version of LIKM to the pre-mixes, removed the audio watermark and normalised all the audio with my FLAC rip. Be sure to check it out!

Due to the fall arriving, I'm on a major Type O kick again and find this very interesting indeed. :)

[Shadaloo]

So I really, really paid attention to the I Am The Walrus-like chanting at the end of Can't Lose You today (I've always spun World Coming Down and October Rust waaaay more often than Bloody Kisses), and started giggling in public. Now....why does Monte Connor suck cock again?

[Ryan]

So I really, really paid attention to the I Am The Walrus-like chanting at the end of Can't Lose You today (I've always spun World Coming Down and October Rust waaaay more often than Bloody Kisses), and started giggling in public. Now....why does Monte Connor suck cock again?

Kind of an in-joke; he signed them to Roadrunner Records.

More info about what else is being chanted/sung here:

http://www.oocities.org/frigidstatue/QUOTES-FACTS.html

The blood and semen part is referencing when Peter signed the RR contract literally in his own blood and semen.

[Krazy]

Due to the fall arriving, I'm on a major Type O kick again

Seriously. Even to a casual fan like me why does fall remind me of Type O and vice versa? Is it the haunting vocals mixed with gothic type metal that leans towards Halloween? Have they released a lot of albums in late summer/fall?

Weird. o_O

[Ryan]

Seriously. Even to a casual fan like me why does fall remind me of Type O and vice versa? Is it the haunting vocals mixed with gothic type metal that leans towards Halloween? Have they released a lot of albums in late summer/fall?

Weird. o_O

Because of


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhYNsRLJglg


and


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yong-3x9WB4

[Krazy]

Because of


I always associated it even before that, they just have a sound that's associated with a time of season for me I guess. A Title like October Rust helps too.

Also looking at release dates in the 90's they do release them late summer/fall:

BK: August 17, 1993 (this was my introduction to them)
OR: August 20, 1996
WCD: September 21, 1999

[Ryan]

Everybody smokes pot. Krazy loves to suck Ryan's cock.

[Krazy]

Like a lemon to a lime, a lime to a lemon.

Wait, WUT???

[Ryan]

Like a moth drawn to a flame, we're the same, all masturbating equally.

[Ryan]

Wolfkiller

http://www.typeonegative.co/showthread.php?189-Sorry-about-that-folks&p=1025#post1025

[Dr Channard]

October Rust or Life is Killing Me? Which album do you prefer? Any thoughts?

[seasonsinthesky]

OR has way less filler than LIKM. YEAH, I WENT THERE

[Ryan]

October Rust or Life is Killing Me? Which album do you prefer? Any thoughts?

October Is Rusting Me

[Ryan]

OR has way less filler than LIKM. YEAH, I WENT THERE

Just spoke to peter from Valhalla, he says

"PLEASE BUY OUR PRODUCT!"

[henryeatscereal]

October Rust or Life is Killing Me? Which album do you prefer? Any thoughts?
October Rust is a better album, BUT i feel "closer" to Life is Killing Me, so i guess it's my "personal" favorite...

[Shadaloo]

October Rust has Love You To Death. LIKM has good tracks, but it ain't even close.

[seasonsinthesky]

It's a very weird comparison. Shouldn't it be OR vs. BK and LIKM vs. WCD? The style change is just prominent enough between OR and WCD.

[Wolfkiller]

October Is Rusting Me

Killer Life?

[Ryan]

October Rust has Love You To Death. LIKM has good tracks, but it ain't even close.

LIKM has Anesthesia though.

[Dr Channard]

It's a very weird comparison. Shouldn't it be OR vs. BK and LIKM vs. WCD? The style change is just prominent enough between OR and WCD.

My bad, I didn’t mean for it to be a vs. sort of thing. I was going through my music and realized that I never got around to buying either October Rust or Life is Killing Me, and other than a few songs on each, I haven’t heard either album all the way through. I may try to pick one up this month if the money is there, and just wondered peoples general opinion as to which one would be more worth it. Listening to them on youtube is probably an option, but who has time for that? My music listening is usually mostly while driving or jogging.

So far everyone agrees on October Rust. Thanks. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[Ryan]

Wolf moon was the song that got me into music in the first place, from October Rust.

[EndlessLoveless]

I agree 100% that fall is my TON time. Just dusted off the Biohazard song 'Plastic' with the whole Pete ending. That and 'Just say no to love' with Tony Iommi. Good stuff.

[Ryan]

Need more ETS folk here plz

http://www.typeonegative.co/forum.php

[Ryan]

@Arcspiral (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=2102) @elevenism (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=2475) @wizfan (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=94) - check your PMs.

@Wolfkiller (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=675) - they are now a part of the inner circle.


edit: Fuck it, ManBurning too.

[Maximilian]

Wut? I want a PM of this secret Type O shit, too!!!!!

[theimage13]

@Arcspiral (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=2102) @elevenism (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=2475) @wizfan (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=94) - check your PMs.

@Wolfkiller (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=675) - they are now a part of the inner circle.


edit: Fuck it, @ManBurning (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=33) too.

Woah wait whatnow? As someone who grew up with a VHS copy of After Dark hidden in the sock drawer, I am intrigued by whatever shady stuff is happening right now.

[Ryan]

Delicious October Rust and Bloody Kisses demos!

[Shadaloo]

Can I be cool too?

[rampface]

Can I have a PM as well? This is exciting!

[Arcspiral]

Holy shit, talk about a nice surprise to wake up to. Thanks Ryan!

[elevenism]

woah hot holy damn! thx Ryan

[Wolfkiller]

If any of you think you know someone with the October Rust demos, try to use this as leverage for trade ;)

[elevenism]

Ryan , in Australia, when do the leaves turn and you get "swirling fog gloom" and such?
I feel this fucking quickening in october when it starts to get cooler and the leaves crackle under my feet and it seems like everything is exciting and possible and it is my absolute favorite season. I blast Creepy Green Light every October 1st.
So is this season april or may, something like that, in australia?

I just realized autumn's almost here and i can't fucking wait. it DOES something to me.

Back on point, i am listening to Bloody Kisses demos ;)

[Ryan]

Roadrunner need to release a box set with all exclusive shit like this, I'm sure there is much more lying around.

[Ryan]

@Ryan (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=67) , in Australia, when do the leaves turn and you get "swirling fog gloom" and such?
I feel this fucking quickening in october when it starts to get cooler and the leaves crackle under my feet and it seems like everything is exciting and possible and it is my absolute favorite season. I blast Creepy Green Light every October 1st.
So is this season april or may, something like that, in australia?

I just realized autumn's almost here and i can't fucking wait. it DOES something to me.

Back on point, i am listening to Bloody Kisses demos ;)

March, April, May is Autumn here. We only have two weeks of winter left - my birthday falls at the end of September, the first month of Spring; I love it for the warmer weather but hate it for my fucking allergies to pollen.

[Ryan]

Oh and now with this it means we have THREE versions of Summer Breeze

- LP version
- Summer Girl with the banned lyrics
- Demo version of Summer Girl with banned lyrics that are slightly altered

[allegate]

Huh. I just threw a TON playlist on my ipod too because I was feeling nostalgic.

Makes me remember buying the Bloody Kisses cd while on a school trip and listening to it on the way home. My friend was pissed because I had a different cover than him, and mine had more songs as well.

[elevenism]

What do you guys think after hearing them? Roadrunner need to release a box set with all exclusive shit like this, I'm sure there is much more lying around.

And if someone can kindly leak it to the masses, that'd be great.
i fucking love them
and i will leak it to anyone who wants it on facebook

[Ryan]

I love how improvised the "KENNY HICKEY LYING ON THE SIDEWALK" part sounds in Summer Girl.

[Arcspiral]

What do you guys think after hearing them? Roadrunner need to release a box set with all exclusive shit like this, I'm sure there is much more lying around.

That would be amazing! I'm still kicking myself in the ass for not picking up that vinyl set on RSD a few years back. I would kill to have that, but there's no way in hell I'm gonna spend over 500 bucks for what essentially amounts to two albums (LIKM and WCD). Really, would it kill Roadrunner to release those albums outside of that box? They are the only ones I need...

And thanks again for the PM Ryan. That was beyond cool of you to share w/ us!

[seasonsinthesky]

If any of you think you know someone with the October Rust demos, try to use this as leverage for trade ;)

THE GOALten characters

[Shadaloo]

Jesus Christ looks like @Ryan (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=67)
Jesus Christ :eek:

I'm really digging them. Can't Lose You has a really different feel to it, a bit more on the serious side without the chanting. I think I like it better.

The tremolo in Blood & Fire really threw me! That song was my intro to the band (good ol' Mortal Kombat soundtrack) and it's so wonderful to hear yet another version. :)

I've passed these on to a few folks already :D And joined up on TON.co, because why the heck not.

Fall's a' comin'. I'm gonna want to expand my TON palate. Recommend any particular recordings?

[Ryan]

That would be amazing! I'm still kicking myself in the ass for not picking up that vinyl set on RSD a few years back. I would kill to have that, but there's no way in hell I'm gonna spend over 500 bucks for what essentially amounts to two albums (LIKM and WCD). Really, would it kill Roadrunner to release those albums outside of that box? They are the only ones I need...

And thanks again for the PM @Ryan (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=67). That was beyond cool of you to share w/ us!

I sold my box set when I needed money!

[Arcspiral]

Recommend any particular recordings?

Do yourself a favor and pick up World Coming Down and prepare to get crushed. Such an amazing album!!!

[Shadaloo]

Oh, I've had the whole discography for a good long while now. I was thinking more in terms of memorable live dates. >_>

[wizfan]

Let's go back to the very first post of this thread. How is the None More Negative boxset sound-quality wise? Virtua Afro DJ said that they broke the segues so that the albums fit to two vinyl sides.

[Ryan]

Y'all can join the forum I made at www.typeonegative.co if you like.

[Space Suicide]

Ryan I'm a fan and interested.

[Ryan]

Looks like someone leaked them on YouTube.

[Maximilian]

I sold my box set when I needed money! I sold mine, too. Got $700 USD on eBay and the buyer was totally happy.

[Ryan]

I sold mine, too. Got $700 USD on eBay and the buyer was totally happy.

I think I sold mine for about the same actually.

[Ryan]

Jesus Christ looks like @Ryan (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=67)
Jesus Christ :eek:


Man, the way Pete sings that in the last 30 seconds or so of the demo version of Christian Woman is freakin awesome.

[elevenism]

So hey... these are still super rare.
I will share these with a few facebook friends, but they aren't like us about music.
It won't even cross their minds to sell them or trade them or anything so what i'm getting at is....

Should we share this with "the masses" before trying to trade for October Rust demos?

[Shadaloo]

Do we know that those are circulating? How much in the way of demo stuff's out there, anyway?


Man, the way Pete sings that in the last 30 seconds or so of the demo version of Christian Woman is freakin awesome.

It really, really is. I love how he just cuts loose :D

[Atu]

Could I also get the Bloody Kisses demos? Pretty please.

[rampface]

October Rust demo's??? This has renewed my interest in Type O

[SIR.LONDONCLEANLILY]

Holy crap, count me in. I am the guy who has the entire discography on my iphone at all times. I've been listening to Carnivore a lot too lately. I have some rare Pantera/Dimebag stuff that is not in circulation if that helps. Hit me up.

[Ryan]

God I love this band. Let's work out how to resurrect Pete. Get some creepy green light going.

[ziltoid]

Anyone know where I can get the Dead Again (Rasputin picture) on a hoodie or any clothing that is Type O Negative be it official or unofficial?
I really want a new Type O hoodie but I'll buy a shirt if I can't find any hoodies.

[Space Suicide]

God I love this band. Let's work out how to resurrect Pete. Get some creepy green light going.

The heartbreaking thing is that he'd probably laugh at that comment.

[Ryan]

Bloody Kisses Demos:

http://www.typeonegative.co/showthread.php?197-Bloody-Kisses-Demos

[Ryan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyW_eSteRgU

c0f3d
eversonpoe

Skip to the 4:40 mark. ^

[Ryan]

If She Loved Me? Why the fuck am I just learning about this now? Demo?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLnKG7wKgbY

[Shadaloo]

...okay yeah, wow. Apparently it's a Corey Tourigny cover.

I feel like a list of circulating demos and unreleased tracks is a thing that should be made personally...

Maybe there should be a TON wiki?

[seasonsinthesky]

Maybe there should be a TON wiki?

Create and I will contribute.

[wizfan]

Maybe there should be a TON wiki?

I'm game. I use Wikia for this stuff, it's free and easy. It's not perfect (and seasonsinthesky will attest to that), but it should be good for now. Ryan could also host a wiki on the typeonegative.co server, which should give us more creative freedom than Wikia, so we can bring it to Ninwiki levels, but... it won't be easy.

[Shadaloo]

Welp, the demos are on youtube now. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2U0RVZai6Q) I think it's safe to assume they're spreading like wildfire.

[Ryan]

Sweet! I need to fix my tags, Can't instead of Can on Scream.

[Ryan]

I'm game. I use Wikia for this stuff, it's free and easy. It's not perfect (and @seasonsinthesky (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=485) will attest to that), but it should be good for now. @Ryan (http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=67) could also host a wiki on the typeonegative.co server, which should give us more creative freedom than Wikia, so we can bring it to Ninwiki levels, but... it won't be easy.


That's a good idea. It reminds me of this thread I made a while back wanting to re-find handwritten lyrics by Pete, check it out:

http://www.typeonegative.co/showthread.php?111-Handwritten-song-lyric-archive

Especially that one for The Subhuman. I wish I saved it all those years ago.

[Ryan]

You know I was thinking in bed last night before I drifted off,

When you look at interviews and whatnot from 1996 during October Rust Peter was so happy and talkative, what the hell happened to Pete in 1997 and 1998 to lead to a title track like World Coming Down?

[Atu]

Some death in the family, as far as I remember - his father. Also some depression; I remember reading an interview (in Polish Metal Hammer, i think) with him around 1999, where he talked about dreams he had where he'd kill "people close to him", and stuff like that.

EDIT: Scratch father's death - it happened earlier.

[seasonsinthesky]

Playlist of the Ages:
White Slavery
Sinus
Everyone I Love is Dead
12 Black Rainbows
Who Will Save the Sane?
Liver
World Coming Down
Everything Dies
Lung
Stay Out of My Dreams
Creepy Green Light
Pyretta Blaze
All Hallows Eve
It's Never Enough

INE really should have closed the album. How could they leave it behind? That ending!

[Shadaloo]

I'm in that boat too; about the only TON albums whose tracklists I wouldn't fuck with are SD&H/OOTF and October Rust.

It might be heretical but...I tend to remove 90% of the interludes whenever I play WCD or Bloody Kisses.

[Ryan]

I just started this discussion:

http://www.typeonegative.co/showthread.php?198-Artwork-if-Pete-stuck-with-TDID-title&p=1063#post1063

I've always wondered what album artwork Peter would have had in mind before the eleventh hour decision to change the title from The Dream Is Dead to LIKM. Obviously he wouldn't have used the flatline image, I don't think. I wonder if there are any artwork prototypes out there for TDID idea?

[Ryan]

Also, can't believe how Peter could take an (already) juggernaut like this and refine it even further to Suspended In Dusk. What do you think he meant by the demo lyrics? A vampire asking it's victim to metaphorically scream because it is unable to do all the things a regular human can? How do you interpret it?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDz2SCh0HN4

[Ryan]

I kinda wish Pete kept the "with meeeeee" part of Burnt Flowers Fallen as seen in this demo:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOQrX7S5QRA

[Maximilian]

http://www.metalinjection.net/av/type-o-negatives-1993-demos-for-bloody-kisses-have-surfaced

[Atu]

I kinda wish Pete kept the "with meeeeee" part of Burnt Flowers Fallen as seen in this demo:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOQrX7S5QRA

How do people find gems like this?!

About the "with meeeeee"part, it's similar to "am I?" part in the end of Love You to Death, so they might want to leave one out.
Also, with Burnt Flowers Fallen being one of my favourite TON songs, I wouldn't change one sound in it (maybe except ditching the drum machine for live drums). Nonetheless, I'd love to hear full demo version.

[seasonsinthesky]

why did i only realize just now that the UCWTNBOI live (IKYFSE) intro is the first section of "Prelude to Agony"

[Dr Channard]

Hard to believe next month will be 10 years for Dead Again. Easily one of my top 10 albums from the 00s decade. Music just isn’t the same without TON around. :(

[Sebek]

Hard to believe next month will be 10 years for Dead Again. Easily one of my top 10 albums from the 00s decade. Music just isn’t the same without TON around. :(

Agreed. I just read the Soul on Fire biography and found it fascinating to learn more about the man. So sad that what happened to him was very avoidable.

[Ryan]

The closest thing we'll get to more Pete is the next A Pale Horse Named Death record. I wish Sal would give more updates.

[Maximilian]

The closest thing we'll get to more Pete is the next A Pale Horse Named Death record.

Or maybe this new Paradise Lost tune. An homage or a rip-off...however you want to look at it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufs-kLZFyjU&amp;lc=z121zx4hpor4dj4zi04citywcru3zf4goho.149 9536391424758

[Shadaloo]

Kenny and Johnny in a new band called Silvertomb (http://www.metalinjection.net/latest-news/type-o-negative-agnostic-front-members-team-up-for-silvertomb)

[Dr Channard]

It's a Type O Negative kind of a day. Life Is Killing Me seems like a good one to give a spin tonight.

[bobbie solo]

It's a Type O Negative kind of a day. Life Is Killing Me seems like a good one to give a spin tonight.

1,2...1,2,3,4!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXIWRan3XGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXIWRan3XGY

[Steven]

Anyone else just love going for long walks at night in the Summer/Fall and playing Bloody Kisses and/or October Rust all the way through?

[Shadaloo]

Type O are THE fall metal band. :)

[Space Suicide]

Type O are THE fall metal band. :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNo7ZZryuSQ

[Steven]

Just came back from a walk, listened to Bloody Kisses. Ahhh so many good songs and memories...

[Shadaloo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNo7ZZryuSQ

Yes but the real version is more about devil music, stepping over Kenny in a pool of his own vomit...sex drugs and rock and roll. Also it's a cover so blah.

I mean...All Hallows' Eve, October Rust, Creepy Green Light, Wolf Moon (which is obviously not really about werewolves but the spooky imagery is there), September Sun...

[henryeatscereal]

Just came back from a walk, listened to Bloody Kisses. Ahhh so many good songs and memories...
great idea, i'll do the same after work, here is raining like crazy, so it's bound to be a great soundtrack...

[NotoriousTIMP]

I get all excited whenever this thread gets bumped because I think there is something new being released (like B-sides collected, unreleased material, etc.)

[Arcspiral]

I get all excited whenever this thread gets bumped because I think there is something new being released (like B-sides collected, unreleased material, etc.)

Isn't that the truth. I regret not getting that box set in 2011 so badly. People selling em for $1000+ is fucking insane. I wish Roadrunner would issue copies of WCD and LIKM.

[deadwinterskies]

Yes but the real version is more about devil music, stepping over Kenny in a pool of his own vomit...sex drugs and rock and roll. Also it's a cover so blah.

I mean...All Hallows' Eve, October Rust, Creepy Green Light, Wolf Moon (which is obviously not really about werewolves but the spooky imagery is there), September Sun...

Let's just split the difference and say that their cover is about an Indian summer.

[SIR.LONDONCLEANLILY]

This is not exactly Type O Negative news but it is related. Recently Johnny Kelly moved to Frisco, TX which is a suburb of Dallas. There was a an article in the local Observer that he was doing private drum lessons. I decided to take it a step further and ask him if he would be interested in doing some studio work. Long story short, he said said he had not before but still said yes. For a VERY reasonable price Johnny brought his kit to my house and we tracked drums in the living room. He spent about 5 hours there and we got about 6-7 drum tracks recorded for our album. We are currently recording the rest and editing. It should be out the first quarter of next year. It was a great experience and we got a ton of random stories out of it. We all tried to be professional and not ask but he took it upon himself to tell away. He was a super nice guy and we may even do it again some time. At the very end my buddy nerded out and asked him to play along to "Love it to Death" and he did. It was freaking badass!

https://youtu.be/RFxCS5U0Oow

[theimage13]

How recently is recently? Spent a few weeks working there last May ('17) and I joked at one point that there was a guy who looked astonishingly like him, but never thought for even a second that it actually was. I'm still willing to bet that it was just some random person, but...man, now you've got me wondering.

Either way...in the most non-sarcastic way possible: cool story, bro!

[SIR.LONDONCLEANLILY]

The article was posted in November 2017. When I first contacted him he said that he had not yet completely moved so I don't think he was living here at that time. I don't know exactly though. He did play some shows with Rex Brown here though. Maybe that was it. Here is the article: http://www.dallasobserver.com/music/sam-damask-aka-grand-commander-learned-stop-motion-animation-for-his-bad-bad-rabbit-music-video-10815025

[Sebek]

I've been on a bit of a TON kick lately and it got me wondering about which bands that've broken up for good would you kill to get one more new album from? By that, I mean at the end they were on the upswing or still on top of their game producing quality material... I'd put Typo O right up there. Damn shame.

[Steven]

I've been on a bit of a TON kick lately and it got me wondering about which bands that've broken up for good would you kill to get one more new album from? By that, I mean at the end they were on the upswing or still on top of their game producing quality material... I'd put Typo O right up there. Damn shame.

Never had a bad or even average album imo.

[Erneuert]

Sal’s upcoming third album (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_World_Becomes_Undone) with A Pale Horse Named Death is sounding really amazing - “When The World Becomes Undone”.

First single, “Love The Ones You Hate”:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3izOfg-lpOI

The second single, “Vultures”, premiered today:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvWF1lRyYVY

[ManBurning]

Sal’s upcoming third album (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_World_Becomes_Undone) with A Pale Horse Named Death is sounding really amazing - “When The World Becomes Undone”.

First single, “Love The Ones You Hate”:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3izOfg-lpOI

The second single, “Vultures”, premiered today:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvWF1lRyYVY

3rd album!? Damn... I was wondering what was going on with this project. I didn't even know there was a second album! I have some catching up to do.

[Erneuert]

3rd album!? Damn... I was wondering what was going on with this project. I didn't even know there was a second album! I have some catching up to do.


Oh man, you’re missing out!


Lay My Soul to Waste came out in 2013. Some of my faves -


“Cold Dark Mourning” is so funereal and perfect. Dare I say, even better than “Die Alone” from the debut album:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRmYQFiRQAQ



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XS2pejCfLQ



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBS8VwcS69A




And they did a music video for DMSLT (Doesn’t Make Sense Living Today):



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjtM5QJOvRk




Also check out Killer By Night, Growing Old and... well, everything he puts out is flawless! Listen to it all.

[ManBurning]

Oh man, you’re missing out!


Lay My Soul to Waste came out in 2013. Some of my faves -


“Cold Dark Mourning” is so funereal and perfect. Dare I say, even better than “Die Alone” from the debut album:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRmYQFiRQAQ



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XS2pejCfLQ



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBS8VwcS69A




And they did a music video for DMSLT (Doesn’t Make Sense Living Today):



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjtM5QJOvRk




Also check out Killer By Night, Growing Old and... well, everything he puts out is flawless! Listen to it all.

Oh... lay my soul to waste IS their 2nd album??? It's the only one I thought existed. Yes, I am very well acquainted with that record. Fantastic record. Been patiently waiting for the follow-up. So what you posted above is the follow-up that I've been waiting for. Ok... I had a feeling there hadn't been another release between them. Thought I was going crazy there for a minute.

A pale horse named death does not get nearly enough credit. This band deserves a spot on most festivals these days. Do they even tour for this project? It's a shame if they don't. Great stuff! They deserve more recognition.

Edit: after I finished typing this, the next song to come on my playlist on my mp3 player (which is on shuffle) was actually "cold dark mourning" what a coincidence lol.

[Erneuert]

Oh... cold dark mourning IS their 2nd album??? It's the only one I thought existed. Yes, I am very well acquainted with that record. Fantastic record. Been patiently waiting for the follow-up. So what you posted above is the follow-up that I've been waiting for. Ok... I had a feeling there hadn't been another release between them. Thought I was going crazy there for a minute.

A pale horse named death does not get nearly enough credit. This band deserves a spot on most festivals these days. Do they even tour for this project? It's a shame if they don't. Great stuff! They deserve more recognition.

Ohh, right. Well the first album was “And Hell Will Follow Me” in 2011. Definitely check out that album - As Black As My Heart, To Die In Your Arms, Serial Killer, Meet The Wolf, When Crows Descend Upon You (the song from which the band name is derived), Pill Head, Cracks In The Walls, Devil In The Closet, Die Alone... there’s also a vinyl-only exclusive song called Pickup Truck you can find on YouTube: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_Hell_Will_Follow_Me

Sal mentioned the first record was heavily influenced by Peter [Steele]. Hell, he may have even given him ideas on the album since he only passed in April 2010 and the debut record saw a 2011 release.

They’re touring Europe early next year: https://www.facebook.com/APHND/ (https://m.facebook.com/APHND/)

Also did some recent gigs in NY a month or two ago.

[Erneuert]

Edit: after I finished typing this, the next song to come on my playlist on my mp3 player (which is on shuffle) was actually "cold dark mourning" what a coincidence lol.

Haha, nice. Sal noticed that Ghost named their current tour “A Pale Tour Named Death” and suggested they must be fans. I’d personally put it down to coincidence.

[ManBurning]

Haha, nice. Sal noticed that Ghost named their current tour “A Pale Tour Named Death” and suggested they must be fans. I’d personally put it down to coincidence.

I remember when the name of that tour came out, tons of comments were saying how a pale horse and Ghost should totally tour together. Totally a missed opportunity with a tour name like that. APHND opening for Ghost... Christ, what a show that would be.

[elevenism]

This is not exactly Type O Negative news but it is related. Recently Johnny Kelly moved to Frisco, TX which is a suburb of Dallas. There was a an article in the local Observer that he was doing private drum lessons. I decided to take it a step further and ask him if he would be interested in doing some studio work. Long story short, he said said he had not before but still said yes. For a VERY reasonable price Johnny brought his kit to my house and we tracked drums in the living room. He spent about 5 hours there and we got about 6-7 drum tracks recorded for our album. We are currently recording the rest and editing. It should be out the first quarter of next year. It was a great experience and we got a ton of random stories out of it. We all tried to be professional and not ask but he took it upon himself to tell away. He was a super nice guy and we may even do it again some time. At the very end my buddy nerded out and asked him to play along to "Love it to Death" and he did. It was freaking badass!

https://youtu.be/RFxCS5U0Oowok so I'm six months late here, but JESUS, dude. That's so fucking cool. So this album of yours: how can I put it in my earholes? :/

[SIR.LONDONCLEANLILY]

Hey man, at this point we are not as far along as we want to be. Both of us have full time jobs and I have a wife and kids. I have a few little blips I can share in the meantime.
#1 This is just a clip of us jamming live trying to sound like Type O poorly! https://soundcloud.com/lance-dillon-lyon/jared-lance-jk-jam-clip-4-22-18
#2 This is the bare bones of a song that will probably make the record. There are guitars and vocals and it will probably be arranged differently. This is just synths and I programmed the drums from one shot samples from the session. https://soundcloud.com/lance-dillon-lyon/petes-will-its-never-enough It will not be called Pete's Will, that was just a joke.
#3 (This one is for fun and not related to the band) I make comedy videos as well and this is a theme song for a video we are making about a 90s style board game called "Hit (The Game)". Think like Crossfire and games like that where they just had these intense hard rock/metal songs. I told Johnny about this during a smoke break and he jammed to the track two takes and that was that. Of course, we kept the first one: https://soundcloud.com/lance-dillon-lyon/hit-the-game-jk-on-drums-quicky-mix

Anyways, I appreciate your interest. I will post back here once we have a date. We actually had a little meeting yesterday and mapped out some things we need to do. Maybe by summer time? I don't know.
In other news I am working with a parody youtube channel and I am the music making portion of it all. They want to do something Type O related so I am going to ask Johnny and maybe see if Kenny or Josh would be interested. It is a parody site but they want to be respectful. I'll let you know how that goes!



ok so I'm six months late here, but JESUS, dude. That's so fucking cool. So this album of yours: how can I put it in my earholes? :/

[Erneuert]

It’s that time of year!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqa5FqbH-Vc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzaflC73iTk

[Erneuert]

@ManBurning (https://www.echoingthesound.org/community/member.php?u=33) - new APHND album is out on the 19th. Here’s one of the first reviews (8/10). Interesting that they don’t mention “The Woods,” as I think that’s going to be the first music video.

http://allabouttherock.co.uk/a-pale-horse-named-death-when-the-world-becomes-undone/


A Pale Horse Named Death – When The World Becomes Undone

3rd January 2019 0 (http://allabouttherock.co.uk/a-pale-horse-named-death-when-the-world-becomes-undone/#comments)By DONK (http://allabouttherock.co.uk/author/donk/)New York City Doom with tender harmonies and riffs that could literally crush bones!
Doom intros tend to fall into two categories, either A, ones of epic proportions or B, there isn’t an intro, this album has the one in category A! It has a torturous and malevolent feel to it. The chanting, water dripping and cries give you the feeling of walking through a world of fear and pain. Which leads down a sorrowful path culminating with a piano on the title track ‘When The World Becomes Undone’. This track has many faces. The eerie piano leads to a thumping, crushing riff which continues for several bars before lending into a very doomy and emotive guitar part. With each second that passes in the main body of the track, even though it’s a fairly standard verse, chorus, verse song, it has so many levels to it that are accentuated with layers of vocal and piercing effects.

We head on feet first in to the album with some excellent songs. Love The Ones You Hate, Vultures and End Of Days being prime examples of tracks that you can listen too on repeat without fear of them blowing and loosing interest in. I love how End Of Daysbuilds as a song. The slow, deliberate tempo with a driven bass leading the way, ending in a crushing wall of fuzz.
One continuous theme through the entire album is the feeling of eeriness, whether between the tracks, footsteps, crunching through a wood or a harmonic feedback, there is something there that makes the hair stand on end and look over your shoulder in-case your being followed by some other world apocalyptic creature or cult.
Lay With The Wicked, Splinters and We All Break Down add some solemn proceedings to the album with a much more intense, thought-provoking feel. Then Dreams Of The End comes along and takes you on an epic journey of some of the darkest, most hidden corners of the mind. Listening to it is like walking through a Labyrinth of your worst fears, not knowing what is around the next corner or where the door leading from the nightmare is!
For me though the stand out track is Fell In My Hole, from the intro riff to the hook I thoroughly enjoyed every part of the song. Big guitars, solemn solos, driven bass and huge drums accompanying the vocals tick every box for me.
This album has something fresh and exciting to it. Something that makes you want to listen to it time and time again and not be bored or fed up with it. Something that makes you check over your shoulder when getting off the bus in the middle of nowhere in the dark.
It’s not for everyone, but it is for me.
Score 8/10

[ManBurning]

^ First release of the year on my "most anticipated records", Looking forward to giving it a spin!

[Steven]

Happy Birthday Pete, would've been 57 today :')

[Erneuert]

Happy Birthday Pete, would've been 57 today :')

That’s hard to get my head around.

[Space Suicide]

I enjoyed their last two records so I'll check this out.

[Erneuert]

New Greek interview about When The World Becomes Undone -

http://www.rockway.gr/synenteykseis/item/22090-a-pale-horse-named-death

[Erneuert]

A funny little video of Sal promoting the new record while enjoying some red: https://tinyurl.com/ybgteftf

[Erneuert]

Sal’s upcoming third album (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_the_World_Becomes_Undone) with A Pale Horse Named Death is sounding really amazing - “When The World Becomes Undone”.

First single, “Love The Ones You Hate”:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3izOfg-lpOI

The second single, “Vultures”, premiered today:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvWF1lRyYVY

World premiere of the title track, When The World Becomes Undone:

http://www.metalinjection.net/av/new-music/get-doomed-with-a-pale-horse-named-deaths-ex-type-o-negative-new-song-when-the-world-becomes-undone


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rUQF6D3j4Q&amp;feature=youtu.be

[Erneuert]

Well now this is pretty amazing:

https://gleam.io/xHdzn/type-o-negative-tattoo-giveaway



​ (https://louderthanlifefestival.com/)Original Members of TYPE O NEGATIVE are coming to New York and they want to tattoo you! Revolver and Inked (https://www.inkedmag.com/) Magazines have teamed up with legendary NYC tattoo shop East Side Ink (https://eastsideinktattoo.com/) to offer one fan the prize of a lifetime. One lucky winner will get a custom Type O Negative tattoo and Type O Negative merch from their upcoming collection. As if that's not enough, the winner will meet Sal and Johnny later that night at their new band's, A Pale Horse Named Death, record release show at Mercury Lounge in Manhattan. Enter now for a chance to win!

​One Winner Will Receive

​A custom Type O Negative tattoo from East Side Ink
A meet and greet with Sal Abruscato + Johnny Kelly
Two (2) tickets the A Pale Horse Named Death show on 1/18
Brand new Type O Negative merch
A one-year subscription to REVOLVER Magazine
Bragging rights for life!