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Camille
11-13-2012, 01:11 PM
Camille,
Thanks for the tip at five.
Good luck. I had tried two different browsers both safari and google chrome, with the same results this morning.
Hopefully by the time I get out of work things will settle and they will figure out this stuff so i, and everyone else can successfully download it.

Good luck to you too. I'm sure Topspin will sort people out who are having difficulty, I have not had any problems with them in the past.
One thing is for sure, if they don't, then I will be grabbing this release from a torrent site or somewhere, I won't be paying them another $5 for a second download link. The EP is good, but not that
good.

dominik
11-13-2012, 01:22 PM
What, there is an AMA with Trent tonight? Seriously?

edit: the ep is awesome

screwdriver
11-13-2012, 01:29 PM
is it just me, or is TopSpin awful? Didn't they massively mess up TGWTDT downloads too?

gorast
11-13-2012, 02:02 PM
Yo, I'm pretty sure that if you guys just throw customer service an email, they'll send you another one-time download link. Or you could just pirate the damn thing. Topspin's customer service has been really good to be so far. I remember last year I fucked up my GDT download and had to email for another copy and they got back to me within an hour. Be patient or pirate it.

screwdriver
11-13-2012, 02:23 PM
Yo, I'm pretty sure that if you guys just throw customer service an email, they'll send you another one-time download link. Or you could just pirate the damn thing. Topspin's customer service has been really good to be so far. I remember last year I fucked up my GDT download and had to email for another copy and they got back to me within an hour. Be patient or pirate it.

you're right, and I'm just being needlessly critical. there are other options. it's just frustrating to pay for a service and not have it work, and I think its a bit ridiculous that they have such crappy quality control -- they wouldn't need that amazing customer service if they would just get it right the first time. but, I apologize for being so pointlessly negative, and they do seem to have their heart in the right place.

gorast
11-13-2012, 02:53 PM
They might have been rushing to make sure it was available right at midnight specifically to avoid the GDT-esque delays, and with that came errors with the album art and ID3 tags. It almost seemed like they didn't initially have access to a high-quality version of the artwork, though. The one initially included looks like a screencap from the preorder page almost.

witte
11-13-2012, 05:25 PM
If you got the new EP anywhere other than our store, you missed out on the art/credits PDF. Here's a direct download: http://t.opsp.in/l0OGk (http://t.co/MvdHmnON)

jhulud
11-13-2012, 06:10 PM
is it just me, or is TopSpin awful? Didn't they massively mess up TGWTDT downloads too?

I hate TopSpin. Always shitty service. My download right now is crawling and has timed-out once already. It'll be tomorrow before this thing is done. Ha!

gunn13
11-13-2012, 06:10 PM
Tried extracting and received these errors.
Tracks 2 & 6 ain't right...


Extracting to "C:\Users\...\Documents\An omen EP_ DIGITAL\"
Use Path: yes Overlay Files: no
Extracting An omen EP (VINYL)\01 Keep it together.m4a
Central and local directory mismatch for file "An omen EP (VINYL)/02 Ice age.m4a" (crc-32 - local: 6FB8A530 hex central: EDA4A37A hex).
Extracting An omen EP (VINYL)\03 On the wing.m4a
Extracting An omen EP (VINYL)\04 The sleep of reason produces monsters.m4a
Extracting An omen EP (VINYL)\05 The loop closes.m4a
Central and local directory mismatch for file "An omen EP (VINYL)/06 Speaking in tongues.m4a" (crc-32 - local: CFA94764 hex central: 8B4C6012 hex).
Extracting An omen EP (VINYL)\An omen EP_.pdf
Severe Error: Local and central CRC values don't match.

Got email back from Topspin within a few minutes with the direct links. All working fine now

jhulud
11-13-2012, 06:18 PM
I've gotten timed-outs and now after it downloads the zip file a little too quick, there is nothing in the file to extract.

TopSpin = SHIT!

butter_hole
11-13-2012, 06:34 PM
If you got the new EP anywhere other than our store, you missed out on the art/credits PDF. Here's a direct download: http://t.opsp.in/l0OGk (http://t.co/MvdHmnON)
xoxoxoxox thank you!

imail724
11-13-2012, 06:54 PM
Anyone that got the vinyl know if it comes with a sleeve or anything art-wise other than the front and back covers?

talkingnothing
11-13-2012, 07:32 PM
so in the pdf liner notes... page 2... is that an animal? like a boar or havolina or a wolf ? cool. also the page 3 photo of Mariqueen is awesome and beautiful and beautifully awesome.

Camille
11-13-2012, 07:39 PM
TopSpin finally contacted me with fresh download links and all is well this time. Sounds great, nifty artwork. Top job despite the initial download hiccup.

Shnoorum
11-13-2012, 08:26 PM
so in the pdf liner notes... page 2... is that an animal? like a boar or havolina or a wolf ? cool. also the page 3 photo of Mariqueen is awesome and beautiful and beautifully awesome.

My god that picture of Mariqueen is amazing. It's uber crunk. Is crunk good? I forget. Definately my favourite photo so far. I think thats a boar by the looks of things. Hard to tell

REPLICA
11-13-2012, 08:33 PM
Ice Age is my favorite song by far. On The Wing is probably my second favorite. Excellent EP, I can't wait for the full LP to hit us - I think I might even buy it on a physical medium at that point.

It's all good stuff but I am one of the few fans that still wishes Trent would release the killer smash hit dance album "Strobe Light" Perhaps HTDA could get in on the lighting of the strobes.

my voice just
11-13-2012, 09:01 PM
that picture of Mariqueen is amazing

http://s49.radikal.ru/i125/1211/dc/dba24f628982.jpghttp://i024.radikal.ru/1211/ec/65f77a483829.jpg

blassster
11-13-2012, 09:45 PM
Anyone that got the vinyl know if it comes with a sleeve or anything art-wise other than the front and back covers?

Yep, the sleeve has a design and is not just white.


The download key that the album comes with claims that it is only valid in the US. Going to the site to redeem the download won't work, if it doesn't think that your IP is based in the US. Fuck these artificial limits imposed on the Internet. I used a proxy and it worked, if you were curious.

Shnoorum
11-13-2012, 09:49 PM
http://s49.radikal.ru/i125/1211/dc/dba24f628982.jpghttp://i024.radikal.ru/1211/ec/65f77a483829.jpg

Whats the picture on the left side? Both very purdy pictures but I'd have to go with the HTDA picture. The colors plus the distortion together give it a very eery and beautiful look to it.

BRoswell
11-13-2012, 09:55 PM
I don't care what anyone says. The Loop Closes rocks, including the "repetitive" lyrics. I want to play it and God Given back to back. It's funky and I love it.

butter_hole
11-13-2012, 09:59 PM
Whats the picture on the left side? Both very purdy pictures but I'd have to go with the HTDA picture. The colors plus the distortion together give it a very eery and beautiful look to it.
its from TGWTDT opening credits

Shnoorum
11-13-2012, 10:03 PM
its from TGWTDT opening credits

Oh god so it is. I've yet to actually see the movie, I saw the video for the opening when it was posted online however but only watched it once or twice. Much appreciated butter_hole

richardp
11-13-2012, 10:08 PM
Fucking mail didn't deliver the LP to me today despite the fact that it was supposed to. Tracking shows it's literally been in KC all day, just not sorted for delivery. BOOOO

my voice just
11-13-2012, 10:12 PM
Whats the picture on the left side?
http://s06.radikal.ru/i179/1211/73/2dd2a3b87b23.jpg

Shnoorum
11-13-2012, 10:30 PM
http://s06.radikal.ru/i179/1211/73/2dd2a3b87b23.jpg

Well to be fair I am a complete moron so... Yeah... Thats all I got

Leviathant
11-13-2012, 10:42 PM
Well to be fair I am a complete moron so... Yeah... Thats all I got

I'd rather see people asking questions that are easily answered than see posts that consist of a completely unhelpful snarky image. Thank you butter_hole for getting right to the point and answering the question. my voice just, please, if you're going to post, try a little harder to contribute something worth posting.

my voice just
11-13-2012, 10:59 PM
i`m trying as hard as i can

but, to be fair enough, butter_hole`s not getting right to the point there
a more precise answer is that is the official wallpaper to the TGWTDT soundtrack

Leviathant
11-13-2012, 11:16 PM
i`m trying as hard as i can

but, to be fair enough, butter_hole`s not getting right to the point there
a more precise answer is that is the official wallpaper to the TGWTDT soundtrack

I was a little disappointed with your initial reply, but coming back later and seeing your edit - excellent recovery! That's what I'm talkin' about. Thank you :)

gorast
11-13-2012, 11:27 PM
Fucking mail didn't deliver the LP to me today despite the fact that it was supposed to. Tracking shows it's literally been in KC all day, just not sorted for delivery. BOOOO
Yeah, I was pissed when it didn't arrive today, too. Might've been because of the holiday yesterday. Here's hoping it gets here tomorrow.

indecisean
11-14-2012, 01:58 AM
So………I'm a bit exhausted after having dicked around for a while with no luck thus far, but has anyone else questioned the fact an 8 page (mostly txt-free) PDF (http://http://t.opsp.in/l0OGk) is over 35mb?
Well, I did…and ended up down a rabbit hole of steganographic PDF research.
I tried mucking around with it in Acrobat Pro and saw some weird results (it kept running a "detecting image" process when I tried to save a smaller version, and flat out crashed when I tried to just do a straight up "reduce size")…after that, I ran the thing through Pdfmasher and the results didn't seem to add up (it detected lines of txt/characters where none were present), but I'm in a little over my head since I've got work and sleep to catch up on. Thoughts?
I'd say "oh maybe they just didn't know how to shrink the file size down" but since none of the other digital booklets were like this - and I couldn't compress this one - it makes me wonder if something's snuck into it…

jmtd
11-14-2012, 02:40 AM
So………I'm a bit exhausted after having dicked around for a while with no luck thus far, but has anyone else questioned the fact an 8 page (mostly txt-free) PDF (http://http://t.opsp.in/l0OGk) is over 35mb?

That's 4.4M per page, which is not too unusual for a print quality JPEG. Text takes up no space in comparison to images.


Well, I did…and ended up down a rabbit hole of steganographic PDF research.

Worth a shot. I'm still waiting for my download to complete, then I might take a look.

Deadpool
11-14-2012, 03:10 AM
So... I'm finally listening to this and I'm honestly way more impressed than I expected to be. 'Keep it together' is sexy as hell, but I think it's the least "progressive" of the bunch. It's like every other song on the album took the main idea in 'The Believers' (organic/electronic disparity) and pushed it to new heights. Again, I've listened all the way through just once, but I love it, and I was not expecting to say that with such confidence. 'Ice Age' might be the standout for me (note: I can't imagine this song being as effective with TR on lead vox, go Q!!), followed closely by 'The loop closes' (so fucking badass).

On the subject of confidence, this feels like a much more confident group of songs than the material from the self-titled EP which is to be expected. Braver, more experimental, etc. I now must own this on vinyl. Of course it goes without saying that Rob did a bang-up job with the art (I knew the PDF would be exclusive to buying direct!) I think the Atticus and Mariqueen portraits are my favorites.

First quarter 2013 for the LP? I'm so ready. Still curious which tracks will carry over...

Totally
11-14-2012, 03:29 AM
listening to this on JVC XX's. this is why I bought bulging bass phones again

my voice just
11-14-2012, 03:41 AM
Rob did a bang-up job with the art
if it won`t start moving in one of next videos, i will be strongly dissapointed

dominik
11-14-2012, 08:12 AM
You know that when you listen to new music from Trent for the first time and you can't stop smiling because there is some really awesome part starting in the song and you think "fuck yeah, trent"? that was the case in the end of The Loop Closes. So so good. :D

kdrcraig
11-14-2012, 08:40 AM
After 3 listens I'm really digging this EP, more so than the first one. Ice Age is definitely the stand out for me, The Loop Closes is awesome as well. I really disliked Keep It Together when I watched the video for it but after three listens on the EP it's really growing on me, was stuck in my head all day yesterday at work.

ImTheWiseJanitor
11-14-2012, 10:01 AM
I love the length of these songs, too. The EP almost feels like a full length just because of how long these songs are. For shits and giggles, I compared the running time for An Omen to LP's latest album (ya know, since they have a habit of having more songs and shorter album lengths).

Five minute difference. That's pretty impressive, considering LP's album has twice as many tracks on it.

Chuck
11-14-2012, 10:31 AM
Where's the best place to buy the vinyl from in the UK? Amazon.co.uk list it, but with no relase date or further info. HMV list it, but aren't releasing it for two weeks, for some reason. Anywhere else?

princessomega
11-14-2012, 10:46 AM
i tried again last night when i got home and apparently the third try exceeded my download limit.
I wrote a kindly letter to topspin last night and then did exactly what you said you were going to do.
I visited a torrent site and downloaded it from there.
I figured I paid for it anyhow, and when the record arrives I still cant listen to it.
I still wonder why i buy records with no player... such a sucker!

PhoenixML
11-14-2012, 12:09 PM
As awesome as this EP is, it's a very boring one.

sheepdean
11-14-2012, 02:09 PM
thingy from topspin about stuff. we need htda spotting http://topspinmedia.tumblr.com/post/35716178335/artists-on-top-how-to-destroy-angels-goes-direct

bgalbraith
11-14-2012, 02:25 PM
thingy from topspin about stuff. we need htda spotting http://topspinmedia.tumblr.com/post/35716178335/artists-on-top-how-to-destroy-angels-goes-direct

"Topspin works incredibly well for these kinds of artists"

Hahahahaha... haha.. *sob*

So far I've had a pretty unimpressive experience with them on anything that was pre-ordered. They seem unable to cope with release day issues.

gorast
11-14-2012, 02:25 PM
Got my destroyangels.com package today.

KIT promo vinyl is in a red sleeve with white labels. Side A is Factory Floor, Side B is Dave Sitek, as expected.

sheepdean
11-14-2012, 02:30 PM
Got my destroyangels.com package today.

KIT promo vinyl is in a red sleeve with white labels. Side A is Factory Floor, Side B is Dave Sitek, as expected.
Anything on the sleeve? Track names, art etc?

NotoriousTIMP
11-14-2012, 03:05 PM
Finally got my package from Amazon.com and ended up with two copies. Looks like I pre-ordered this back in September and then again in November.

After a few listens, I like the EP minus MQ's voice. Didn't like it on the first EP and still dont like it on here. It doesn't fit the music correctly IMO. The music is awesome but when she sings I cringe (with the exception of Ice Age)

gorast
11-14-2012, 03:12 PM
Anything on the sleeve? Track names, art etc?
Nah, just a plain red outer sleeve. Looks like the inner protective sleeve is white.
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh501/Somedude179/IMG_02261.jpg
http://i1249.photobucket.com/albums/hh501/Somedude179/IMG_02271.jpg

sheepdean
11-14-2012, 03:14 PM
I hope that 33.5 RPM is a typo, because turntables play at 33 1/3...

Indefinite_Cure
11-14-2012, 03:57 PM
I hope that 33.5 RPM is a typo, because turntables play at 33 1/3...
That would only make a 15 cents difference (not even a quarter tone) but it would be audible to the average ear. Not a very big deal though

*edit*
You could always check that with the track-length (comparing the one written on the disk with a measured)

(33,5/60)*443= 247,3417

60(247,3417/(100/3))= 445,22= 7 minutes, 25 seconds, which is what it would last if it was really pressed at 33,5 RPM and played at 100/3 RPM

MAD
11-14-2012, 04:01 PM
http://ge.tt/5fHxJdR/v/0

screwdriver
11-14-2012, 04:58 PM
So wow, having let this sit for a few days, listening to it about 5-6 times, I have to say I really, really, really enjoy it. Perfect music just in time for winter.

Leviathant
11-14-2012, 05:06 PM
http://ge.tt/5fHxJdR/v/0

It's interesting that the images add up to 26.4mb but the PDF is closer to 40mb.

Camille
11-14-2012, 05:06 PM
Headphones.. check! Fat joint.. check! An Omen E.P.. check! Happy days.. check!

fortheloveofgod
11-14-2012, 05:12 PM
It's interesting that the images add up to 26.4mb but the PDF is closer to 40mb.

Adobe sometimes has the habit of enlarging pdf files depending on the driver. Unless there is something else going on here..

Torgo
11-14-2012, 05:19 PM
thingy from topspin about stuff. we need htda spotting http://topspinmedia.tumblr.com/post/35716178335/artists-on-top-how-to-destroy-angels-goes-direct

Ahaha... they mentioned the sandwich question.

MAD
11-14-2012, 05:20 PM
It's interesting that the images add up to 26.4mb but the PDF is closer to 40mb.
Keep in mind that there are four images missing. Those were white, each with a colored rectangle for text probably.

If you want to go crazy,

Page 8, 9 and 10: #6c99a9
Page 12: #3f4255

Blank images: http://ge.tt/1OZAfdR/v/0?c

Ah yeah, and I made this wallpaper for myself, but feel free to use it if you want to: http://imgur.com/NAy2S

littlemonkey613
11-14-2012, 06:19 PM
God I freaking love this whole EP. The production and the volume dynamics are really what is catching my ear. Also just like NIN, every song gets better with every listen. Can't wait for the live shows.

SIR.LONDONCLEANLILY
11-14-2012, 08:27 PM
Here is a little unboxing video I made earlier today in my office for anyone who is interested! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TKp7xjjeVuM

otnavuskire
11-14-2012, 09:35 PM
Anyone else still waiting for their vinyl to ship from Topspin?

buckaroo
11-14-2012, 11:22 PM
being old school, like i am, i bought this at a localrecord store. the download code is only good for the mp3 version. i guess ishould have assumed that. does this mean i have to pay another $5 for a flac? it's getting harder and harder to support local mom and pop shops.

bgalbraith
11-15-2012, 12:17 AM
Anyone else still waiting for their vinyl to ship from Topspin?

Yep. My live receipt thing still doesn't have a tracking number, just a status of acknowledged. If I recall we were supposed to receive these on release day.. I really do not like Topspin.

butter_hole
11-15-2012, 12:22 AM
being old school, like i am, i bought this at a localrecord store. the download code is only good for the mp3 version. i guess ishould have assumed that. does this mean i have to pay another $5 for a flac? it's getting harder and harder to support local mom and pop shops.

its not their fault columbia bitched out on flac downloads..

umdesch4
11-15-2012, 02:49 AM
You know that when you listen to new music from Trent for the first time and you can't stop smiling because there is some really awesome part starting in the song and you think "fuck yeah, trent"? that was the case in the end of The Loop Closes. So so good. :D

Well said. In general, I have a really ridiculous smile on my face through most of this EP. This is the first time in weeks I've had something new to listen to that so thoroughly grabbed my attention I had to stop what I was doing just to listen.

Trunkjob
11-15-2012, 03:21 AM
Decent EP. Their s/t EP was much hookier and more enjoyable to listen to, but An Omen EP has a more interesting atmosphere. What they have to do from here is combine both elements together and improve the lyrics, then they'll have something outstanding.

MAD
11-15-2012, 04:37 AM
improve the lyrics
Still better than

"Now I am an animal
Now I am a chemical"

http://i.imgur.com/zlMp7.gif

dzaver
11-15-2012, 05:16 AM
what about that????

Ice age video

http://shrani.si/f/19/Qn/4FwppUGv/screen-shot-2012-11-15-a.png

Trains
11-15-2012, 06:07 AM
^ For real? I went to that Lana Del Ray video but there was an advert for a completely different song in the background...

my voice just
11-15-2012, 07:35 AM
Chuck Norris` boner

[/URL][URL="http://tinyurl.com/be4rerc"]HDTA`s on vevo now (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoXSUOjGk6w&list=PL62882C5C97D014DA&index=6&feature=plpp_video)

so, we know what to expect
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoXSUOjGk6w&list=PL62882C5C97D014DA&index=6&feature=plpp_video)

reseen_lamenti
11-15-2012, 07:37 AM
what about that????

Ice age video

http://shrani.si/f/19/Qn/4FwppUGv/screen-shot-2012-11-15-a.png
Also found that link. I clicked on it and it led to the vid for Keep it Together.
Typo or Vevo spoiled the 2nd single.

Henrie_Schnee
11-15-2012, 08:36 AM
Chuck Norris` boner

HDTA`s on vevo now (http://tinyurl.com/be4rerc)

so, we know what to expect


http://s7.directupload.net/images/121115/2fium78t.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

This is why I look down on musicians going back to the label infrastructure. Yeah, I get it: It's a better deal and a superior infrastructure for your buck. But there'll always be collateral damage. Especially since VEVO usually has 24 hour exclusivity over new videos before they're allowed to be put on Vimeo et all.

princessomega
11-15-2012, 10:37 AM
I really love the music and the layers of this EP.
Very nice driving music for my mornings.
"ice age" is forever left lingering in my head, I find myself singing it often throughout my day.
"the loop closes" is my favourite off the ep. That ending is just what Ive been looking for from this band.
My wife really enjoyed the Clipd beaks feel of "speaking in tongues"
But alas I am still awaiting Topspin to ship mine also.
At least in my house its almost like a comical joke at this point.

screwdriver
11-15-2012, 11:24 AM
probably fair review from pitchfork:
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17297-an-omen-ep/

(is this review relevant? no mention of pants.)

jessamineny
11-15-2012, 11:49 AM
How seriously can you take a reviewer who keeps referencing The Slip (positively) and doesn't recognize Ghost (sic) as the most recent Nine Inch Nails album? : /

jrdsctt
11-15-2012, 11:51 AM
probably fair review from pitchfork:
http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17297-an-omen-ep/

(is this review relevant? no mention of pants.)

Probably one of the most honest reviews I've seen come out of pitchfork for a while.

jrdsctt
11-15-2012, 11:53 AM
How seriously can you take a reviewer who keeps referencing The Slip (positively) and doesn't recognize Ghost (sic) as the most recent Nine Inch Nails album? : /

Am I missing something? Ghosts came out in March of 08, The Slip came out in July of 08?

Leviathant
11-15-2012, 11:58 AM
It's interesting to me that the song that I most commonly see people heralding is the same track that Pitchfork picks as its least favorite. But then, I also disagree with their assertion that the debut EP is "easily superior" - I was not immediately taken by the debut EP, and actually don't much listen to it. I like the material on this new one so much better. I think the artwork could be swapped though - the new stuff Rob's making fits the sound of the debut EP better, and I think the debut's artwork would go better with the music on this EP. So hey, there's my opinion, added to the pile.

screwdriver
11-15-2012, 12:14 PM
It's interesting to me that the song that I most commonly see people heralding is the same track that Pitchfork picks as its least favorite. But then, I also disagree with their assertion that the debut EP is "easily superior" - I was not immediately taken by the debut EP, and actually don't much listen to it. I like the material on this new one so much better. I think the artwork could be swapped though - the new stuff Rob's making fits the sound of the debut EP better, and I think the debut's artwork would go better with the music on this EP. So hey, there's my opinion, added to the pile.

fascinating perspective. don't agree on the art -- I think new EP is really cold and winter-y, which is evocative of dark and blue to me. (the whole Videodrome aesthetic... not sure anyway, but its cool.) while I think the old EP feels a bit more summer-y and uptempo, I can't help but wonder if part of my opinion on that was informed by the art having seeped in to my brain. interesting!

I think Pitchfork was more judgmental of the singing on Ice Age; they seem to praise the production. and while the track itself isn't my "least favorite," the singing is probably my least favorite part of the track. It works, but its the least interesting part of the track.

jessamineny
11-15-2012, 12:14 PM
Am I missing something? Ghosts came out in March of 08, The Slip came out in July of 08?

Nope, you're catching my (arrogant) mistake. :)

sheepdean
11-15-2012, 12:53 PM
Just going to put this out there: if anyone comes across a promo/radio/label thing CD of An Omen, I'm VERY interested.

fortheloveofgod
11-15-2012, 01:08 PM
An Omen ad banner on Spotify today. See what major label deals get ya!

witte
11-15-2012, 01:25 PM
Just going to put this out there: if anyone comes across a promo/radio/label thing CD of An Omen, I'm VERY interested.
I think you have to stay at the back of the queue
:)

sheepdean
11-15-2012, 02:12 PM
I think you have to stay at the back of the queue
:)
A fight to the death, winner takes all? :P

Leviathant
11-15-2012, 02:15 PM
An Omen ad banner on Spotify today. See what major label deals get ya!

Could you post a screenshot when you get a chance? Thanks

ultimaton
11-15-2012, 03:39 PM
Anyone else still waiting for their vinyl to ship from Topspin?


Yep. My live receipt thing still doesn't have a tracking number, just a status of acknowledged. If I recall we were supposed to receive these on release day.. I really do not like Topspin.

Same here. Really annoying, especially when the shipping cost was over $13.

Sutekh
11-15-2012, 05:39 PM
Love it... but the 3rd track has a vocal melody a bit too much like that bright sunshiney day song XD but yep, another belter. Love the Unknown Pleasures sounding guitar on the first track

neorev
11-15-2012, 05:48 PM
Love it... but the 3rd track has a vocal melody a bit too much like that bright sunshiney day song XD but yep, another belter. Love the Unknown Pleasures sounding guitar on the first track

HAHAHA, I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thought this... I do like the track though. But yeah the melody is very close.

Harry Seaward
11-15-2012, 08:38 PM
Am I the only one who thought that the "I Can See Clearly Now" melody was intentional?

Amaro
11-15-2012, 08:58 PM
It's good some (a lot of) people like this...but I've concluded, with how I initially felt. This just doesn't feel enough like a different band. Almost in any regard. There are attempts worth noting, but that's all. My head is inevitably twisted in all sorts of directions in the past "trentse"... It's a better try than the first EP, in that sense, but...during track 5 I just wanted to put on "The Big Come Down" (from hearing that somewhat attackful Trent vocal). Listening to this EP poses more questions than when listening to the first. There, it was easier to understand where the sound was coming from, and cut some slack. Here, it's just barely any more "new," really. Apart from all that jazz, I'm still left with unimpressionable songs, pretty much. There's nothing I wanna steal...

bgalbraith
11-15-2012, 09:34 PM
Same here. Really annoying, especially when the shipping cost was over $13.

I sent them an email about this last night. I eventually got a reply that they were still waiting on the physical product to arrive at the warehouse before they could send it out. Uh.. Ok. Not great but whatever. However, just now I received a follow up that due to an internal error, some people got skipped. They have refunded the price of the shipping and will send it out soon.

I'm still exasperated with Topspin, but this was the right way to handle this, I think.

spahn
11-15-2012, 09:49 PM
I got the email about refunding my shipping costs as well. Seeing as it was a hefty $13 to ship, the additional couple of days of waiting for the vinyl is a little less frustrating right now.

harrismonkey
11-15-2012, 10:05 PM
My vinyl showed up today.

Both records skip horribly (like every single rotation jumping 5-6 groves forward). Obviously I'll need to contact them, I was just curious if this was a widespread problem or not. Sounds like I'll have to wait a day or two find out as no one else is talking about having it yet.

otnavuskire
11-16-2012, 06:09 AM
I also got the shipping refund email. They seem to have these shipping problems every time, but this time they're handling them much better, by actually communicating what's going on, as opposed to just leaving people hanging like with past releases.

fortheloveofgod
11-16-2012, 08:14 AM
Could you post a screenshot when you get a chance? Thanks
http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o744/frednin912/Capture.jpg

spahn
11-16-2012, 08:22 AM
I also got the shipping refund email. They seem to have these shipping problems every time, but this time they're handling them much better, by actually communicating what's going on, as opposed to just leaving people hanging like with past releases.

i'm just wondering if the shipping refund is due to trent & co. getting involved and insisting on them refunding the shipping costs due to past and ongoing issues every time they distribute something or if this came from the goodness of topspin's own heart.

eversonpoe
11-16-2012, 09:48 AM
My vinyl showed up today.

Both records skip horribly (like every single rotation jumping 5-6 groves forward). Obviously I'll need to contact them, I was just curious if this was a widespread problem or not. Sounds like I'll have to wait a day or two find out as no one else is talking about having it yet.

i ordered from amazon so i only have the EP, but it arrived in fine shape on tuesday and i listened to it all the way through last night with zero issues. i will say it feels a bit light for what's supposed to be 180G Vinyl, but it sounded pretty fantastic.

and sheepdean, since you asked, i will tell you that the mix is about as similar to the digital version as you can get on vinyl, but it was definitely mastered separately for vinyl, as to eliminate some of the incredibly low-end sound in the songs.

harrismonkey
11-16-2012, 12:46 PM
i ordered from amazon so i only have the EP, but it arrived in fine shape on tuesday and i listened to it all the way through last night with zero issues. i will say it feels a bit light for what's supposed to be 180G Vinyl, but it sounded pretty fantastic.

and sheepdean, since you asked, i will tell you that the mix is about as similar to the digital version as you can get on vinyl, but it was definitely mastered separately for vinyl, as to eliminate some of the incredibly low-end sound in the songs.

I should preface this by saying my record players (two in the house- same brand) aren't very high quality.

On some of my old records (thin ones that seem to be a tiny bit warped) I have to attach weight (quarters) to the arm to prevent skipping. After adding more weight than ANY of my other records require I was able to stop the skipping.

I went to repackage the records last night (Figuring I'd have to send them back) and noticed the original packaging is too small and was forcing the records to bend. I've decided to wait a few days and see if they straighten back out (they should have only been in the bad packaging for a few days).

Interestingly, both records play fine without weight one one side, but skip on the other without serious weight being added. Not sure if I'm going to bother returning these- but I most certainly will order from Amazon instead if I buy more NIN related vinyl in the future.

jessamineny
11-16-2012, 02:39 PM
I eventually got a reply that they were still waiting on the physical product to arrive at the warehouse before they could send it out.

That is the same lame-ass excuse Topspin gave when TGWTDT orders were late going out. It must be one of their stock answers to unhappy customers. Sooooo they're not meeting promised shipping deadlines -- people were supposed to have the albums in hand no later than release day -- and likely lying to the band's customers. Not cool.

Deepvoid
11-16-2012, 03:25 PM
The Loop Closes is pretty much HDTA's version of Into The Void.

jhulud
11-16-2012, 04:26 PM
Finally! Got shipping confirmation from TopSpin at about 2:30am today. And then a bit later I got this message:

Thank you for ordering An omen EP_ on vinyl.

Today we discovered an internal Topspin issue where some orders did not have their proper shipping information passed on to our fulfillment warehouse. Since your order was delayed due to this problem, we are refunding your shipping in full. Please expect to see this credit on your account within 7-10 days.

Meanwhile, we've confirmed these vinyl orders have shipped out today and you should expect an updated email receipt within 48 hours.

We apologize for the delay and any inconvenience this may have caused.

gorast
11-16-2012, 04:30 PM
Man, now I kinda wish my copy had been delayed. Would've been nice to have that 13 dollars back...

sheepdean
11-16-2012, 05:04 PM
Grabbed an animated youtube ad, anyone wanna convert this into a .gif? http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CICAgKDj3JHZ9gEQrAIY-gEyCEJHA4y3wrsC

profane
11-16-2012, 05:17 PM
Did Rob use a meme in the bottom right corner?

http://behance.vo.llnwd.net/profiles4/176175/projects/5952869/8f0ebdfbed5af504b2b49af33c4011e0.jpg http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q528/Tom_Coolen/Screenshot2012-11-16at231343.png

I'm fully aware of the randomness and it might also be ridiculous but I saw that meme thing on my facebook feed and somehow made the connection. Just thought i'd share it.

Harry Seaward
11-16-2012, 05:39 PM
^ I thought of that meme the moment I saw that artwork image.

otnavuskire
11-16-2012, 05:42 PM
Looks more like a picture of the head of some animal like a rat or something to me.

gorast
11-16-2012, 06:10 PM
Didn't he say it was a boar?

I can't even see that stupid memeface in the image. You guys need to get your eyes checked.

BRoswell
11-16-2012, 06:16 PM
I can't even see that stupid memeface in the image. You guys need to get your eyes checked.

I can see what they're talking about, but it's very obvious that it's the eye and ears of some sort of animal. I thought it looked like a rat personally, but maybe it is a boar. I definitely didn't think of that meme the first time I saw it.

witte
11-16-2012, 06:32 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nine-Inch-Nails-Trent-Reznor-HOW-TO-DESTROY-ANGELS-12-An-Omen-EP-6-Trk-500-/370691959080?pt=UK_Records&hash=item564ef66928
This auction says "500 made worldwide".
I don't think so. In that case they all were gone already...
What do you think?

harrismonkey
11-16-2012, 06:36 PM
Did Rob use a meme in the bottom right corner?

http://behance.vo.llnwd.net/profiles4/176175/projects/5952869/8f0ebdfbed5af504b2b49af33c4011e0.jpg http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q528/Tom_Coolen/Screenshot2012-11-16at231343.png

I'm fully aware of the randomness and it might also be ridiculous but I saw that meme thing on my facebook feed and somehow made the connection. Just thought i'd share it.

The texture is quite similar and the general shape. But I'm really not seeing any of the specific details.

I have to go with the boars head.

profane
11-16-2012, 06:51 PM
Indeed, I can see that now. Hey it's random, just threw it out. :)
Oh hell, lol.

DigitalChaos
11-16-2012, 07:01 PM
animal skull
http://rob-sheridan.com/analog/one.html

gorast
11-16-2012, 07:24 PM
Maybe that seller is referring to the copies sold from HTDA's website, not that its value would change because all of the EP vinyls are the same (the KIT promo is the real gem). Or they're just bullshitting.

Scramasax
11-16-2012, 07:54 PM
Just listened to it all.

You know...'I Can't keep It Together' is alright. But doesn't grab me that much. So I ordered the vinyl more from loyalty. I was still expecting to enjoy it, but not love it.

So I played it, 'I Can't Keep It Together' is still, okay. Nothing great. Then 'Ice Age' came on. Instantly fell in love. From there it just got better and better. Great work guys.

sheepdean
11-16-2012, 07:59 PM
It's called Keep It Together #readingthelinernotes

sheepdean
11-16-2012, 09:48 PM
Grabbed an animated youtube ad, anyone wanna convert this into a .gif? http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CICAgKDj3JHZ9gEQrAIY-gEyCEJHA4y3wrsC
And this one http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CICAgICQr5yF4AEQoAEY2AQyCDYsKfq5d0DC
#3 http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com/pagead/imgad?id=CICAgICQr5z3WBDYBRhaMgh_hnGEUEqNPA

Reckon there'll be more than banner, column and square?

BenAkenobi
11-17-2012, 02:12 AM
The Loop Closes is pretty much HDTA's version of Into The Void.

my impression was more like Me, I'm Not pt. 2

--edit--
looking how flac files are tagged. genre = Alternative, except 2nd track (Electronic). but that one's almost acoustic, isn't it?
does mp3 download have the same tags?

my voice just
11-17-2012, 04:12 AM
both of you are wrong

Ruined
11-17-2012, 05:50 PM
Rolling Stone Magazine review (4/5 stars), referencing Rob and Atticus as "NIN cronies":
By Will Hermes (http://www.rollingstone.com/contributor/will-hermes)
November 13, 2012
Nine Inch Nails (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/nine-inch-nails) fronted by a hot femme singer? Why didn't anyone think of it sooner? That's exaggerating the MO of this electro-pop collective (Trent Reznor, his wife, Mariqueen Maandig, NIN cronies Atticus Ross and Rob Sheridan), but not entirely. Clocking in at 30-plus minutes, this debut EP is a small masterpiece of downtempo sound sculpture, finely detailed and often as gorgeous as it is discomforting. "I feel the skin that separates us start to fade/And when I lie on top of you, I'm afraid," Maandig intones over a crushingly low frequency bass line on "Keep It Together," her ghost-babe vocals joining Reznor's butch croak near the end for a night-sweat duet. The semi-acoustic "Ice Age" sounds like Beck (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/beck) and Tom Waits (http://www.rollingstone.com/music/artists/tom-waits) conjuring a Stevie Nicks song. But imagine its antsy melody, swarming groove and bleak verses presented in Reznor's usual mode – howling industrial psychedelia – and his imprint is unmistakable. More, please.




Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/an-omen-20121113#ixzz2CWUERWPo

jessamineny
11-17-2012, 06:06 PM
Debut EP. Nice.

imail724
11-17-2012, 06:32 PM
You had me at "ghost-babe"

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

witte
11-17-2012, 08:42 PM
-Ice Age-
"But imagine its antsy melody, swarming groove and bleak verses presented in Reznor's usual mode – howling industrial psychedelia – and his imprint is unmistakable"

Well spoken! Exactly my thought too!

Shnoorum
11-17-2012, 09:51 PM
Debut EP. Nice.

Poor actual debut EP. I personally loved the original EP. Its never given enough credit i my opinion

jmtd
11-18-2012, 04:31 AM
Nope, you're catching my (arrogant) mistake. :)

Also no complaints from me re the slip being referenced positively.

DigitalChaos
11-19-2012, 12:20 PM
Tweeted by Rob: http://qz.com/28210/spotifys-plan-for-rescuing-the-music-industry-let-it-fall-apart-first/
Spotify "believes that the music industry will stop pressing CDs within 18 months." We all know how Trent was/is a big Spotify supporter. So... maybe that helps add to the reasoning why there is no physical CD.

wizfan
11-19-2012, 02:29 PM
A very fair review. http://www.dotsanddashes.co.uk/2012/11/beneath-ice-how-to-destroy-angels-omen.html

Frozen Beach
11-19-2012, 02:45 PM
I read a post made by someone on the internet that said this e.p. was as undesirable as acoustic NIN. You have no idea how hard I wished I had the ability to punch someone through the computer screen in that moment.

umdesch4
11-19-2012, 04:24 PM
A very fair review. http://www.dotsanddashes.co.uk/2012/11/beneath-ice-how-to-destroy-angels-omen.html

Yeah, a very interesting review. I disagree with much of it, but it doesn't upset me because it's obvious that the person who wrote this is well-informed, and a big enough fan to be able to write what they think referencing all that they know and love of Trent's convoluted history. I'm always ok with having differences of opinion with people who are also fans, and not just "fair weather fans" or reviewers just doing a job.

jhulud
11-19-2012, 05:40 PM
Arrived today. And this whole time I had it in my head that the EP was a 10". Huh.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff36/jhulud/Records%202/DSCN3563.jpg

jrdsctt
11-19-2012, 06:34 PM
Arrived today. And this whole time I had it in my head that the EP was a 10". Huh.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff36/jhulud/Records 2/DSCN3563.jpg

I too got a package in the mail today:

http://i.imgur.com/DIn7B.jpg

ImTheWiseJanitor
11-19-2012, 06:43 PM
As much as I love the debut EP, I think I REALLY like this EP more. The new direction (artistically and musically) is just stellar. If the full-length is a combination of the styles in both EPs, I'll be extremely satisfied.

I'm still holding out for a tour of HTDA/Sonoio/Big Black Delta. A man can dream.

PLEASE TRENT.

jessamineny
11-19-2012, 06:50 PM
Please, keep the barrel rolls in the Aussie thread. ;)

r_z
11-19-2012, 06:53 PM
I pretty much agree with most of that review above. I too grew a bit tired of this ambient/"Ghosts"/soundtrack-ish type of songs from the Reznor Camp, which most of the EP is made of. It's certainly very well produced and therefore alone it's interesting and worth a listen, but ultimately lacks some kind of element of suprise for me to keep coming back to it.

"Ice Age", featuring banjo and happy melody, possesses said element, but - in my opinion - suffers from the (character lacking) vocals, which wouldn't bother me, wouldn't the song go on for about seven minutes. I get the concept behind the song and it's production... to give it this icy feel... but I feel they've cut its qualities by giving it their standard soundtrack-treatment.

The same with "The Sleep Of Reason...". Yeah, I get it... cutting the song before a climax is reached as an equivalent to wake up or get woken up from a deep sleep or nightmare. It's really not that exciting of a concept to me. I don't see the point in it? You only can do the "song evolves slowy until it's finished" trick so often. This one strongly feels like an previously unreleased song from the TGWTDT sessions.

For me the debut EP was way more exciting for highlights like "Fur-Lined", "BBB" or "The Believers", which kicked ass, were funky, sexy AND intriguing. "An Omen" (no, I won't bow down to this pretentious "Htda_" crap) on the other hand would be certainly more interesting, hadn't they already released almost a hundred(!!!) ambient/drone-ish type of songs in the last four years. So, since they kept announcing the new HTDA as their next big statement (musically speaking - with all the major label talk, posters, banners, ads, etc.), I can't help but feel a bit disappointed. I'll pick up the full length, of course, but my expectations have been lowered.

I hope this doesn't qualify me as 'cunt' :D. Also I'm loving the Sitek remix a lot more than the original version of KIT.

buckaroo
11-19-2012, 10:33 PM
as much as i like this ep and the previous one i think is your love strong enough? is, by far, the best thing they have released. i would like to hear more straight-forward tracks like that in the future, but maybe that just isn't their thing...

thetourist
11-20-2012, 10:50 AM
For the collectors, got the order from german online store JPC of the An Omen EP_ today.

Released on Sony Music, same barcode, no sticker on shrink wrap. Contains a download card, but the code won't work. Made in the EU.

sheepdean
11-20-2012, 12:01 PM
Made in the EU.
So, 2 versions of the EP I take it?

witte
11-20-2012, 12:04 PM
Arrived today. And this whole time I had it in my head that the EP was a 10". Huh.

http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff36/jhulud/Records 2/DSCN3563.jpg
As far I can see: the promo vinyl is sealed too?

jhulud
11-20-2012, 01:00 PM
As far I can see: the promo vinyl is sealed too?

Yes, it is sealed as well.

thetourist
11-20-2012, 01:52 PM
Funny, I also thought the vinyl was 10".

FULLMETAL
11-20-2012, 04:00 PM
Has anyone compared the vinyl download from Columbia to the Topspin files?

october_midnight
11-20-2012, 06:09 PM
Sorry if already posted.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdt6qpHxgL1qbl7hpo1_1280.jpg

Andrew
11-20-2012, 06:36 PM
Download from Columbia is 320k CBR mp3. I did the flac from topspin so I can't compare, I guess.

princessomega
11-21-2012, 10:22 AM
I'm still holding out for a tour of HTDA/Sonoio/Big Black Delta. A man can dream.

PLEASE TRENT.
OMG...that would be orgasmic!!!

R37R0
11-21-2012, 03:20 PM
anyone having problems with the pin code in the EP? I just tried entering mine from the EP I got in the mail today and the website says invalid code

my voice just
11-21-2012, 05:59 PM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdus6s8CHI1qbl7hpo1_1280.jpg

John Hillcoat, Ice Age, next week
so, it`s official

Harry Seaward
11-21-2012, 05:59 PM
"@mariqueen
John Hillcoat, Ice Age, next week."

So, this means a music video right? I couldn't find anything about it in this thread or the HDTA Thoughts thread.

EDIT: Ugh, fuck you, guy above me.

my voice just
11-21-2012, 06:00 PM
a music video from the director of the road, yes

EDIT: better timing, beatch

sheepdean
11-21-2012, 08:03 PM
Ice Age is the CLEAR standout track on the EP, so I'm very happy it's getting the single treatment.

Deadpool
11-21-2012, 08:07 PM
John Hillcoat rules. I adore his unconventional music video for UNKLE's 'The Answer' so my jaw kinda dropped when I saw Mariqueen's tweet. Treat yourself to it now if you haven't seen it before! (also features the amazing Ray Winstone)

http://vimeo.com/16339115

my voice just
11-21-2012, 09:14 PM
damn you, trent, i was hoping for the third KIT video, but with a plot!

Shnoorum
11-21-2012, 09:25 PM
This is rather awesome news. Seems like a respectable director. Only seen The Road from his filmography but I really liked how it was done. I hope the video reveals more about the EP. The lyrics to the songs are very mysterious so some insight would be amazing. Looking very much forward to this

BRoswell
11-21-2012, 09:30 PM
The Proposition is one of my favorite films, and I love The Road as well. It's great to see Trent and Co. working with some of my favorite directors.

danebraddy
11-22-2012, 01:25 AM
In recent times, Hillcoat has worked very closely with Nick Cave - maybe Cave wrote the script/treatment for the video- and maybe that was the hero Trent was with a couple of weeks back...

One can dream....

witte
11-22-2012, 05:25 AM
HERE WE GO! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/How-To-Destroy-Angels-An-Omen-EP-SECRET-PROMO-12-Record-Nine-Inch-Nails-NIN-/261131872923?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item3cccac2a9b)
In case someone missed the promo sale on the HTDA site
;)

Edit: just received mine (from the german store JPC)
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii130/nine_inch_nerd/NIN collection/4490202A-6E8F-4CC3-9808-6106144C7BA5-5822-00000475161949D3.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii130/nine_inch_nerd/NIN collection/6927737F-4190-43D0-A97C-47F0B66AE3A0-5822-000004750AA17E9E.jpg


Edit 2: I just played this thing on my record player (loud): awesome sound! For sure, I can hear more details and more dynamic than on my lossless download. VINYL ROCKS!

dlb
11-22-2012, 11:44 AM
Wow, what a neat deal! 7,99€ (-60%) and no shipping costs for people within Germany. I was hesistant at first getting this, but that's a deal I can not let pass. Thanks for the info!

Camille
11-22-2012, 12:46 PM
HERE WE GO! (http://www.ebay.com/itm/How-To-Destroy-Angels-An-Omen-EP-SECRET-PROMO-12-Record-Nine-Inch-Nails-NIN-/261131872923?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item3cccac2a9b)
In case someone missed the promo sale on the HTDA site
;)



@ The price...
http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx218/MMikeyBee/Gifs/2lpe6fjpg.gif

sheepdean
11-22-2012, 12:49 PM
Edit: just received mine (from the german store JPC)
Considering you bought it in the EU, does your download code work? Apparently the US-bought ones don't (not that it matters as I have the FLAC, but still).

gorast
11-22-2012, 01:43 PM
Damn, I cannot wait to watch the video for Ice age. That's mega exciting.

umdesch4
11-22-2012, 06:19 PM
You know, critics can say what they want, and debate the merits of this EP as long as they want.

For me, the bottom line is that in the 10 days I've had this thing, I've listened to it 2-3 times a day, for a combined total of around 10-15 hours. I can't remember the last time I listened to *any* new release as much. I'm still enjoying it, and I've already gotten way more than my money's worth out of it. I still trust Trent to deliver something worth my time and money.

witte
11-22-2012, 06:51 PM
Considering you bought it in the EU, does your download code work? Apparently the US-bought ones don't (not that it matters as I have the FLAC, but still).

I don't know: I mailed the code to a friend of mine (I already have the lossless). I'll ask him.
My other vinyls stay sealed! You know why... ;)

Shnoorum
11-22-2012, 09:17 PM
@ The price...
http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx218/MMikeyBee/Gifs/2lpe6fjpg.gif

Oh my sweet lord that cracked me up in a big way. Best use of a reactional gif I've ever seen you witty son-a-bitch

thetourist
11-23-2012, 10:45 AM
Anyone knows how limited this bonus 12" is, and/or if the An Omen EP_ vinyl is limited at all?

gorast
11-23-2012, 11:36 AM
I highly doubt An omen EP_ will be limited because it's a major release. I think maybe the promo vinyl would top out at 1000 or something like that. I dunno.

Camille
11-23-2012, 03:04 PM
Anyone know if the An Omen EP_ vinyl is limited at all?

I have noticed that a couple of ebay sellers have the standard vinyl EP listed as "limited to only 500 copies."
I have no idea where they are getting this information from.
Maybe they heard about the promo, put 2 and 2 together and came up with 5.

thetourist
11-23-2012, 03:56 PM
I don't think the EP is limited, the order with the promo was limited, I guess. First HTDA EP is sold out everywhere and keeps popping up on eBay for a lot of money. And the Keep it together promos have arrived there too.

Leviathant
11-23-2012, 03:59 PM
I have not seen official numbers for the nin.com preorder vinyl. The only place I've seen the "Limited to 500 copies" verbiage lately was talking about the Telepathe record with the NIN-camp remix of Destroyer. That is numbered and limited to 500 copies.

19ninetynine
11-25-2012, 09:33 AM
I get pissed when I see these ebay auctions, I feel bad for any REAL fans who are forcing themselves to pay those fucking prices just because they missed out on the pre-order... not blaming anyone in HTDA but I do blame these people selling them, they're assholes plain and simple.

witte
11-25-2012, 10:27 AM
that's business, man.
i'd do the same.
:)


Edit: forgot to say, several of 'your eBay assholes' are from Canada. :)

R37R0
11-25-2012, 12:21 PM
I think columbia have got their act in order now as the download code included in the vinyl now seems to work from eu locations

imail724
11-26-2012, 04:38 PM
After cancelling my order at the local record shop today since it never showed up, I just found the sealed ep on ebay for $13 shipped :) That's half what I originally paid at the store

my voice just
11-26-2012, 05:34 PM
Honored to have worked with John Hillcoat on the music video for Ice age. You can see it this week!
so... it`s offcially official

acidpolly
11-27-2012, 03:33 AM
JOHN HILCOAT.

I don't even know what to add here.

sheepdean
11-27-2012, 05:51 AM
That's odd, does it mean that TR and/or HTDA were working in post production too? One doesn't normally finish shooting and then instantly release footage, but I really doubt it's the band's forte, aside from Rob.

jessamineny
11-27-2012, 08:15 AM
?? What odd thing are you referring to? Did Rob delete a tweet again?

Ruined
11-27-2012, 08:35 AM
?? What odd thing are you referring to? Did Rob delete a tweet again?
Trent tweeted:
"Honored to have worked with John Hillcoat on the music video for Ice age. You can see it this week!"
Whoah, on a side note: I had no idea that Hillcoat directed "The Proposition" and "The Road," among other films. Really looking forward to this video.

sheepdean
11-27-2012, 08:39 AM
*grumbles that the promotional poster for HTDA I bought from eBay arrived before the album*

I get it, Topspin are a great company Trent, for many things. But fast shipping internationally is not one of them.

jessamineny
11-27-2012, 11:03 AM
sheepdean Is that twitter post what you were referring to? If so, what does that have to do with post-production, and finishing a video and immediately releasing footage?

sheepdean
11-27-2012, 11:19 AM
Because to finish a video, if you're only shooting it, takes place more than a week before release, especially with the kind of videos I've seen of Hillcoat's.

Idk, it made more sense in my head

r_z
11-27-2012, 11:29 AM
A director shooting a music-video for a band = band members (such as Trent) working with that director. No?

I love the NIN community, but you guys have a way to overthink Everything_.

jessamineny
11-27-2012, 11:52 AM
Oh, I think I get what you mean now....

But the date he and/or Q tweeted about Hillcoat doesn't have to be the day they were actually with him.

jrdsctt
11-27-2012, 05:32 PM
Not sure if this got posted yet or not, but Stereogum just wrote a pretty interesting article about Trent and his Legacy: http://www.wepolls.com/p/3766817/Best-Nine-Inch-Nails-album?tag=3760924

jrdsctt
11-27-2012, 06:21 PM
Ice Age video premieres at Midnight PST: https://twitter.com/mariqueen/status/273566835918647296

PQHooligan
11-27-2012, 06:21 PM
Not sure if this got posted yet or not, but Stereogum just wrote a pretty interesting article about Trent and his Legacy: http://www.wepolls.com/p/3766817/Best-Nine-Inch-Nails-album?tag=3760924

I posted it in NIN Spotting since it deals with more than just HTDA, but to have it here works too :)

FULLMETAL
11-27-2012, 06:21 PM
Damn! The "Ice Age" video premieres at midnight PST.

Harry Seaward
11-27-2012, 06:29 PM
Video premiers at midnight PST according to Q.

EDIT: Ugh, foiled again.

sheepdean
11-27-2012, 06:59 PM
A director shooting a music-video for a band = band members (such as Trent) working with that director. No?

I love the NIN community, but you guys have a way to overthink Everything_.
In my defence, I was high off of cough medicine.

Shnoorum
11-27-2012, 07:16 PM
In my defence, I was high off of cough medicine.

Just a heads up, that excuse doesn't hold up well in court. An innocent horse is an innocent horse regardless of circumstance.... But enough about me.

Very much looking forward to seeing this video. Sadly for me it means staying up untill 3am but honestly, I seem to be doing that a lot lately so it's all good.

sheepdean
11-27-2012, 07:23 PM
Idk if anyone cares, but a little IMDB-ing leads me to believe this is the L Sandgren mentioned on the slate http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0761874/

Also, I hate being in the UK when things premier at midnight for foreigners.

gorast
11-27-2012, 07:28 PM
Reminds me of when the first EP was released. Stayed up until midnight PST (3 AM my time) and went to bed the moment I finished it. I'm expecting good things from this video.

Shnoorum
11-27-2012, 07:35 PM
I've only been here since the release of TGWTDT but I was up untill about 6am waiting for my download. Never arrived so I went to bed and got it when I woke up depressingly. Now however it isn't so bad. I work untill 1am now so I'm generally up late (or early if you prefer) all the time anyways. It just means I get to see it earlier than expected so it actually works out better for me. Huzzah!

sheepdean
11-27-2012, 07:43 PM
Nothing's as bad as when Ghosts dropped. Nothing.

otnavuskire
11-27-2012, 07:47 PM
Also, I hate being in the UK when things premier at midnight for foreigners.

At least midnight PST is 8 in the morning your time. That's not that bad. It's 3AM here.

Also, so that people don't start crying too much if it's not actually up when midnight PST gets here, their blog says it'll be up AROUND midnight, so not necessarily right then.

http://blog.destroyangels.com/post/36697299024/tonight-around-midnight-pst-check-our

sheepdean
11-27-2012, 07:54 PM
Around = preferably at midnight, but server issues may not comply, imo.

my voice just
11-27-2012, 08:37 PM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me67fbqBTt1qbl7hpo1_1280.jpg
http://www.ninwiki.com/images/5/5a/1_18_06.jpg

witte
11-27-2012, 08:51 PM
@ work nightshift
could not be better :)

DigitalChaos
11-27-2012, 09:39 PM
Nothing's as bad as when Ghosts dropped. Nothing.

Time to give a quick recap for those who weren't lucky enough to partake!

Shnoorum
11-27-2012, 10:26 PM
I seem to have made a silly boo boo. PST certainly isn't 3am here. I think it is infact roughly 8am? At any rate, bugger that. I'll catch it in the morning

BRoswell
11-27-2012, 11:19 PM
3 AM is more like 3 PM for me. I'm always awake then. I'll definitely be watching it as soon as its available. Now they need to get Fincher to do a video. :D

Leviathant
11-27-2012, 11:38 PM
Nothing's as bad as when Ghosts dropped. Nothing.
Were you around during the break between The Downward Spiral and The Fragile, or for the post-AATCHB drought of 2003? Let's talk about bad...

orestes
11-28-2012, 12:08 AM
​Bleeeeeeedthrough.

my voice just
11-28-2012, 12:29 AM
Now they need to get Fincher to do a video. :D
fincher is so 2005

ninperu
11-28-2012, 03:10 AM
--> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq3pDuJeMqQ&feature=g-all

BRoswell
11-28-2012, 03:30 AM
http://youtu.be/Oq3pDuJeMqQ

I have to say...this video takes the song to a completely different level.

Presideo
11-28-2012, 03:35 AM
They actually managed to make a video as boring as the song itself (why exactly is 'Ice Age' so well-liked again?)

Conrad Lienert
11-28-2012, 03:36 AM
Absolutely love the video! I've watched it 3 times already.

acidpolly
11-28-2012, 03:41 AM
oh love the video!
at first I thought - is she gonna stand like that the whole time and they gonna just play the instruments? but then it became interesting haha

butter_hole
11-28-2012, 03:43 AM
I quite enjoyed that and I just clued in to the fact that they're probably going to release a video for each song

Magtig
11-28-2012, 03:47 AM
I think this is kind of brilliant, and definitely beautiful, but it requires patience.

That said, the snark in me wants to say, 'I've deciphered the meaning: the Reznor's are sick of their children and they want to go sailing.'

Conrad Lienert
11-28-2012, 03:51 AM
Is it just me, or did the "God's Hand" from Year Zero make an appearance in this video?

The hand & arm shot was very Year-Zeroesque.

Magtig
11-28-2012, 03:54 AM
Also, the part where the wave freezes, but the bird flies by broke my brain.

Henrie_Schnee
11-28-2012, 04:13 AM
Yeah... this video really captures the excitement that waiting for an ice age brings.

And when the presence comes, we'll be all transformed into badly compressed VHS-static... and all of our old Super 8 movies will turn black... and the world will not "end", somebody just switches the channel.

BRoswell
11-28-2012, 05:04 AM
They actually managed to make a video as boring as the song itself (why exactly is 'Ice Age' so well-liked again?)

I can see why someone who thought the song was boring would find the video boring. Personally, I love the way Ice Age evolves, and I love that the video follows that pattern as well.

I also loved the clash of aesthetics on display. The worn, wooden shack inhabited by people playing electronic instruments. The natural world being interrupted by video static and noise. It's a beautiful clash.

BenAkenobi
11-28-2012, 05:29 AM
on my second view i kinda wished the band would freeze in the end, but then i thought it would probably be a corny move (or cheesy, or whatever you usually call it)

BRoswell
11-28-2012, 05:42 AM
on my second view i kinda wished the band would freeze in the end, but then i thought it would probably be a corny move (or cheesy, or whatever you usually call it)

Yeah, that would have been pretty cheesy. The whole vibe of the video seems to indicate that they're in this shack waiting for the end to come, and at the end we see the ice forming inside the shack. I think they were smart enough to let us figure out what might happen next.

my voice just
11-28-2012, 07:10 AM
I just clued in to the fact that they're probably going to release a video for each song
my thoughts exactly

sheepdean
11-28-2012, 07:15 AM
If there's anything we've learnt from TSIB, it's that trying to understand the metaphors in a HTDA video will give you a headache.

Love the video, though the opening shot on Q is sliiightly too long from a directorial standpoint, imo.

my voice just
11-28-2012, 07:16 AM
it was trent`s request
art direction for HDTA now includes too long Q`s shots

Trains
11-28-2012, 07:33 AM
Not the best music video I've ever seen. Absolutely love the song, but found it a little hard to sit through all of the video. Maybe it needs a second viewing.

ImTheWiseJanitor
11-28-2012, 08:53 AM
Never in my life did I imagine I'd see the words "HTDA" and "Vevo" together.

joplinpicasso
11-28-2012, 08:55 AM
I agree with sheepdean -- come on, John Hillcoat, pick up the pace! Other than that, yes, the video is somewhat fantastic. Makes me hear the song quite differently.

r_z
11-28-2012, 09:28 AM
So yeah, Vevo doesn't let me watch the video since I'm not from the US (I suppose) and the youtube version is blocked in my country (because they block ALL major label artists' videos). I love you, music industry. http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/dbtech/thanks/images/likes.png

ninperu
11-28-2012, 09:47 AM
So yeah, Vevo doesn't let me watch the video since I'm not from the US (I suppose) and the youtube version is blocked in my country (because they block ALL major label artists' videos). I love you, music industry. http://www.echoingthesound.org/community/dbtech/thanks/images/likes.png

i'm in Perú and i have no problem seeing the video...

sheepdean
11-28-2012, 10:06 AM
Germany and a few other countries (I think Thailand?) have it banned, most don't. Although tunnelbear, or simply using keepvid, will circumnavigate both of these. Not that you should of course, as that would breach your country's copyright law. Cough. Cough.

r_z
11-28-2012, 10:10 AM
I'm in Germany and it's a common problem over here. The GEMA is the only institution for distributing artists's fees and they make sure nobody gets to see videos from major label artists until they've reached an agreement with Youtube about said fees being payable per view. It's odd that in every other country Youtube managed to solve those issues with resident institutions, yet in Germany there's no end in sight. The problem is, that the GEMA is the ONLY institution in our country that's allowed to distribute those fees. Therefore they can practically decide on what they want. Recently, for example, they've decided to raise the fees charged to night clubs (for playing [club-] music) to 1400%, which eventually will lead to quite a few clubs having to shut down business (not to mention the impact this will have on our club culture).


We've been writing about German music collection society GEMA's bizarre fight against YouTube for a few years now, in which all major music videos are blocked from YouTube in Germany because GEMA is suing YouTube and refuses to even discuss a potential license until the lawsuit is over. As we noted recently, this is even frustrating the labels who feel that GEMA is costing them serious money in not just doing a deal to make videos available. While researching something else on Twitter, I came across this telling tweet, from an individual in Germany talking about how they had to use a Chinese web proxy just to watch a new Sting video, and properly notes just how screwed up the world is when people in Germany are relying on Chinese web proxies just to watch music videos. I'm still trying to figure out what good this does anyone... other than GEMA.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120228/17044017902/somethings-not-right-german-user-has-to-use-chinese-proxy-to-see-new-music-video.shtml

Seriously, the whole music industry in Germany sucks so hard. It's no wonder, only very few bands like Rammstein or Atari Teenage Riot have managed to make themself a name outside of this country in recent history.

eversonpoe
11-28-2012, 10:20 AM
so...am i right in saying that trent is playing a prepared auto-harp? that's pretty freakin' great. whatever rob is doing is awesome, and i love that the last shot in the video is of him ejecting a 5 1/4" floppy disk. we're never really shown whatever atticus is doing, which is a little disappointing. however, i'm glad that this isn't just another performance video. as nice as "keep it together" was to look at, i get really, really easily bored with straight-up performance videos (unless they're alternate audio, a la "gave up" & "march of the pigs").

anyway, i liked it a lot!

konstantin
11-28-2012, 10:22 AM
don't know if it's because i like John Hillcoat in general, but this was really well done. almost like the song was written for a short film (hence the literal interpretations here and there). was a little wary when i saw the video was 7+ min long, but those long shots were really necessary to sink into the ominous serenity mood. and it seemed like the director was inspired by Year Zero too.

on the other hand i was reminded once again that the Ghosts sound has long overstated its welcome for me. really hoping the album will cover some new ground we haven't been presented with yet (even if it's West Indian Girl indie pop type stuff)

R-Dot-Yung
11-28-2012, 10:45 AM
I have now decided that Rob is going to be live analog distorting whatever video element HTDA is cooking up...for the live shows that is.

sheepdean
11-28-2012, 10:52 AM
Rob is going to give all audience members optical implants so he can distort your worldview as the band plays.

Shnoorum
11-28-2012, 11:13 AM
I quite enjoyed that and I just clued in to the fact that they're probably going to release a video for each song

Forgive me for being slow but what makes you think that? Something flew right over my head I think

That aside, the video was really awesome in my opinion. The distortion that started kicking in towards the end was amazing. At first I thought they were just doing another (almost) regular studio video but it really started getting funky in the middle

sheepdean
11-28-2012, 11:25 AM
For the Germans: http://www.clipfish.de/musikvideos/video/3889979/how-to-destroy-angels-ice-age/ (via nin.com)

aggroculture
11-28-2012, 11:28 AM
OK I'll have a think about why I dislike it so much, and maybe come back later.
That said I cannot help but resent a little the pressure here to only say positive things or keep your peace.
If I'd just posted "it's brilliant, I love it" no-one would chide me for that not being a "well-informed" opinion.


The "i haven't read the thread" followed by "haven't listened to the album" kind of makes your opinion a wee bit less valid, imo.

Fine. I was only commenting on this song/video. I've been listening to TR since 1993, and have the first HDTA EP, so even if I am not up to the minute, I do have an opinion.

Shnoorum
11-28-2012, 11:28 AM
please don't hate me, i'm honestly just trying to explain:

i think there's a difference between posting a well-informed negative opinion and saying that you're "embarrassed" by the song and video and that you find it to be "loathsome."

now, back on topic: is anyone else going to back me up on that being a prepared auto-harp that trent is playing? I NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT IS!

Can't help you there I'm afraid. I would quite like to know aswell because it makes e very perdy sound. Sadly when I get technical when talking about NIN or HTDA I may aswell be saying "I like them NINs cause' they make them noises out of them there blippy boxes". I've always been an uneducated admirer of their work

dominik
11-28-2012, 12:19 PM
Anyone else waiting for Trent to pop out of nowhere with a rather immature response to some of the weak criticism in this thread?

If you look at the comments on his fb page, I think he won't be able to resist to call someone "cunt".

Shnoorum
11-28-2012, 12:54 PM
for a while, i honestly thought my voice just was trent fucking with us...but i'm not so sure.

I've thought similar things about other members before. My god, we NIN/HTDA fans are so incredibly easy to fuck with. Just imagine the potential they have to mess with us on the forum!

DigitalChaos
11-28-2012, 01:14 PM
The first five minutes I was thinking "soooo... just like the Keep It Together video but in a cabin.... k..." and then it got awesome. Long wait but it had a strong emotional impact.

witte
11-28-2012, 02:05 PM
The more people don't like it, the more I love it!
Go on, go on.

Looking at all those reactions, I think TR succeeded with this project!


edit: and...for me, an excellent birthday present :)

Shnoorum
11-28-2012, 02:25 PM
Everything HTDA has released from An Omen (musically and video atleast) I keep sharing through Facebook. Not many of my friends are into NIN or HTDA so I feel like a bit of a music nazi douchebag spreading it around but my god, I can't help it. I try to atleast keep my verbal excitment limited to my brother and fiance since they already know I'm a douche but have no means to escape it. Anyone else like this or am I just way too over excited about this EP?

slave2thewage
11-28-2012, 02:37 PM
What the hell is Rob playing in that video? But, yeah, I really liked it. I almost turned it off after three minutes but I decided to keep going. Nice payoff.

botley
11-28-2012, 02:37 PM
German fans:

http://smarturl.it/htdaiceagevideo

Good video. TR plucking/hitting a fucked-up prepared table harp for 7 minutes = epic win

thevoid99
11-28-2012, 02:44 PM
That's a great video. Best thing Hillcoat's done since The Proposition.

Shnoorum
11-28-2012, 02:57 PM
The more people don't like it, the more I love it!
Go on, go on.

Looking at all those reactions, I think TR succeeded with this project!


edit: and...for me, an excellent birthday present :)

Happy birthday dude. I hope something awesome is released on mine *COUGH like maybe the LP COUGH*

DigitalChaos
11-28-2012, 03:10 PM
Everything HTDA has released from An Omen (musically and video atleast) I keep sharing through Facebook. Not many of my friends are into NIN or HTDA so I feel like a bit of a music nazi douchebag spreading it around but my god, I can't help it. I try to atleast keep my verbal excitment limited to my brother and fiance since they already know I'm a douche but have no means to escape it. Anyone else like this or am I just way too over excited about this EP?

You just described the bulk of my online habits. Sometimes I try baiting people. When An omen_(o)(o) came out I said "hey, listen to this. so far I've heard people reference No Doubt, Sheryl Crow, and Johnny Nash" It got a few more people to listen than would have normally.

untoldlb
11-28-2012, 03:35 PM
What the hell is Rob playing in that video? But, yeah, I really liked it. I almost turned it off after three minutes but I decided to keep going. Nice payoff.
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sheepdean
11-28-2012, 03:43 PM
Anyone else find it hilarious that there's htda on a floppy disc, but not on CD?

butter_hole
11-28-2012, 03:49 PM
The glaring weakness is Mariqueen - she's monotone, dull, lifeless, mechanical, and every other negative word you can use to describe a vocalist.
Did you actually listen to Ice Age

JessicaSarahS
11-28-2012, 03:55 PM
I have to say...this video takes the song to a completely different level.

Agreed. Ice age isn't my favorite song, but the video turned out great and I'm giving the song a few more in depth listens.

DigitalChaos
11-28-2012, 04:06 PM
Ok, but only because you asked nicely.

Lets get down to brass tacks. The glaring weakness is Mariqueen - she's monotone, dull, lifeless, mechanical, and every other negative word you can use to describe a vocalist. She's pretty much Paul Banks with far less versatility, shittier lyrics, and a vagina. It seems like they tried to circumvent this weakness (her voice, not her vagina) by utilizing her, and vocals in general, as little as possible. However, putting whispered, repetitive vocals on top of minimal tracks leads to a very weak output.

Take Ice Age for example: am I really supposed to find 7 minutes of guitar/banjo plucking laced with a tedious vocal delivery compelling or worthwhile? Continues 7 second vocal pauses are littered throughout the verses and chorus, with only looped strumming to entertain us in between. I keep rolling my eyes when the distorted atmosphere comes in halfway, as if that's supposed to magically make the song more interesting. Sadly, it's the equivalent of putting lipstick on a pig. The video is even more obnoxious: M singing to a window sill while three middle-aged men dabble with cool-looking instruments. Then the video starts to glitch when the distortion starts, as if I didn't already expect that to happen.

It feels like they got pissed at everybody saying their first EP was basically NIN with female vocals, and decided to switch up their sound as much as possible. But when you strip the electric guitars and underutilize both percussion and vocals, you're left with a very limp, turgid collection of music. The feeling reminds me of Radiohead's 'The King of Limbs' - the songs aren't exactly bad or anything; they just lack any major impact.

[/rant]

I saw someone post "For NIN: meh. For West India Girl: awesome!"
Curious what your thoughts are on that statement.

R37R0
11-28-2012, 05:35 PM
I quite enjoyed the vid, I think that all of the 'glitches' and random interspersed video snippets really add to the overall experience.... more please

ghostaustin
11-28-2012, 05:45 PM
I hope there are more videos from this EP based solely on the fact that the vocals get pushed further back (either in the mix or as the overall focus) as the EP progresses, which leads me to believe that the band is going to go through some pretty intense visual changes in the future.

jhulud
11-28-2012, 06:57 PM
I enjoyed watching the video. Fit the song perfectly.

katalyze
11-28-2012, 06:59 PM
It's a PPG Realizer http://www.vintagesynth.com/misc/ppgrealizer.php Very rare - apparently only two were made.


What the hell is Rob playing in that video? But, yeah, I really liked it. I almost turned it off after three minutes but I decided to keep going. Nice payoff.

Shnoorum
11-28-2012, 09:44 PM
TR is effective primarily because his voice has character -- and according to my pretty uneducated assessment, darn good pitch, too.

I've always thought of his voice almost like an instrument. The way he accentuates syllabels to fit with the music is unique and brilliant. Atleast in my eyes. However, regardless how much I love his voice, I couldn't imagine him singing Ice Age. Thats Mariqueens song and I can't imagine anyone else doing it but her

Warped_Savant
11-28-2012, 09:50 PM
I disagree with the haters, but I can totally see where they're coming from. An omen_ EP_ is a very quite, calm, relaxing group of songs to listen to. If you like NIN because of the loud, aggressive songs you're probably not going to like the EP.

How to destroy angels_ is not Nine Inch Nails. Don't try to pretend that they are. Don't think it's going to be the same sound. You will be disappointed.

The quiet and calm instrumental stuff that TR and co. have been putting out is the main music I listen to. (That, and folk music.)