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Self.Destructive.Pattern
08-07-2012, 03:32 PM
So I finally got to see them live on Sunday at Jones Beach, and it was one hell of a ride. Deftones opened for them and they were spot on. The setlist was a bit meh for me (No Saturday Night Wrist! WTF?) but they had to skip the new songs and one other because it started to pour, but we trooped it out and waited for the storm to pass. Then System came on and pretty much blew the stadium into the water. They were spot on, Daron sounded great (Vocals and Guitar), and the band sounded like they never went on Hiatus. Who knows what this tour will bring as far as new music is concerned, but I would love to have another SOAD album sometime in the near future.

Setlist:



Prison Song (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/system-of-a-down-23d69cd7.html?song=Prison+Song) [/URL]


Soldier Side - Intro (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


B.Y.O.B. (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


Needles (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


Deer Dance (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


Radio/Video (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


Hypnotize (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


Question! (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


Suggestions (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


Psycho (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


Chop Suey! (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


Lonely Day (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


Bounce (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


Kill Rock 'n Roll (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


Lost in Hollywood (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


Forest (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


Mr. Jack (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


Holy Mountains (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


Aerials (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


Tentative (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


Cigaro (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


Suite-Pee (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


War? (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)


Sultans of Swing (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html)
(Dire Straits (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html) cover)

Toxicity (http://www.setlist.fm/stats/songs/system-of-a-down-23d69cd7.html?song=Toxicity)


Sugar (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html) [URL="http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/system-of-a-down/2012/nikon-at-jones-beach-theater-wantagh-ny-13dcd959.html"]

BenAkenobi
08-07-2012, 11:48 PM
I'm jealous. So hoping the Serj's Harakiri is his last solo record before new SOAD record. Totally switching my hopes from Tool to System ☻

SM Rollinger
08-08-2012, 03:40 PM
oh sweet a cover of sultans of swing! i love that track, dire straights kick ass

theSplinter04
08-08-2012, 05:17 PM
I'm jealous. So hoping the Serj's Harakiri is his last solo record before new SOAD record. Totally switching my hopes from Tool to System ☻
nope

[...] It was later confirmed that his new album would be called Harakiri and will be released on July 10, 2012. This will be the first of four new albums to be released in the near future. The other three upcoming albums include a jazz album titled Jazz-Iz-Christ, an orchestral album called Orca, and Fuktronic, an electronic music collaboration with Mindless Self-Indulgence's Jimmy Urine.
he's totally focussing on his solo stuff now.

Self.Destructive.Pattern
08-08-2012, 06:01 PM
nope

he's totally focussing on his solo stuff now.

Just because he has other albums lined up, does not mean that SOAD cannot still make new music. There are artists out there that have two, even three bands going at the same time and make it feasible to tour, or make new music. Who knows? Maybe they recorded or are on the midst of releasing two new songs for download, or an EP. We will see once this tour ends and Harakiri is out for a bit longer. Needless to say, the new Serj album is miles better than his second effort.


oh sweet a cover of sultans of swing! i love that track, dire straights kick ass

Dude, it was definitely a pleasant surprise. The crowd loved it, and when Daron dubbed "Sultans Of Swing" with "System Of A Down". :)

theSplinter04
08-09-2012, 03:02 PM
Just because he has other albums lined up, does not mean that SOAD cannot still make new music. There are artists out there that have two, even three bands going at the same time and make it feasible to tour, or make new music. Who knows? Maybe they recorded or are on the midst of releasing two new songs for download, or an EP. We will see once this tour ends and Harakiri is out for a bit longer. Needless to say, the new Serj album is miles better than his second effort.
http://www.blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=177656

"It's a good question and the answer is the same — we haven't made plans of recording the new record as of yet," he said. "When we do, everyone will know. We haven't really discussed another record as of now with any of the guys, really. It's something that, when it's the right time, we'll do it. Right now I'm busy with my own stuff and that's gonna take me a bit, but when it's the right time, everyone will know. I don't even want to say there's [a new SYSTEM OF A DOWN album] coming because we haven't really talked about it. I just assume when it's the right time, it'll materialize, like everything else in the universe."
this was just one week ago.
as much as i would want some new SOAD material, i really don't believe they'll start recording until 2013. there's still hope though, SOAD's not dead. not even close. they might even have written some tracks. (it's also funny how Serj talks about 'the' new record)

Self.Destructive.Pattern
08-09-2012, 04:58 PM
Well it will definitely happen. You never know though... bands say things like this all the time, and when you least expect it you get a new song or even a new album. I'm staying optimistic about it.

I would however, love a new Scars On Broadway album. The snippet that is on the website needs to be released or an album followed by a freakin' tour this time.

Space Suicide
08-09-2012, 05:30 PM
System of a Down > Scars on Broadway > Serj Tankian

I'll get flamed for my second opinion but that's how I see it with my tastes.

smokey_mcpot
08-11-2012, 09:09 AM
scars on broadway?
come eat some chemicals with me,
come eat some checmicals...
:D

the only track i like is universe. i otherwise cannot stand darons vocals. whata douche.
theyre fucking! theyre fucking!
theyre fucking in front of me!
:rolleyes:

cool to hear about the show, SDP, thanks for the setlist. sugar is ALWAYS the best closer!!

BenAkenobi
08-11-2012, 09:30 AM
SOB has a handful of truly kick-ass songs (i'm too lazy now to write exact titles of those)

theSplinter04
08-11-2012, 05:57 PM
Funny, They Say, Hungry Ghost

Mr. Blaileen
08-12-2012, 02:48 AM
SOAD is in the category of bands/artists that I don't listen to frequently anymore..but still hold a special place in my heart. The first album is a masterpiece. I absolutely loved these guys in high school and seeing them headline Ozzfest was pretty fuckin cool.

I would definitely welcome a new record from these guys or a tour, perhaps both..someday. Daron needs to chill the fuck out and take a backseat to Serj in the vocals department. I know he writes most of the music for System and wants to sing on it..but he needs to recognize his shortcomings.

smokey_mcpot
08-13-2012, 07:53 PM
i agree, i listen to system to hear serj's voice... not that pipsqueak. his backing vocals are actually not bad in some cases but when he tries to hijack the song its so annoying. stick to singing on your scars on broadway project.

Self.Destructive.Pattern
08-13-2012, 09:40 PM
I like a lot of the songs that Daron plays and sings. He brings this significant weirdness and provocative feeling to the band that I just love. There are a few songs where I would love to hear Serj more, but I really do enjoy Darons vocals. His guitar skills are wonderful though.

aggroculture
04-26-2013, 05:40 AM
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Serj Tankian Set To Release Two Albums In June and July



Announces Orchestral Tour Dates

April 25th, 2013 - Los Angeles, CA: Singer, songwriter, composer, multi-instrumentalist, poet and political activist Serj Tankian is independently releasing two albums this summer through his own Serjical Strike Records.

Orca, Tankian's first true symphony, will be released on June 25 and the collaborative jazz infused album Jazz-iz Christ will be released on July 23.

Recorded in Linz, Austria in October of 2012, Orca was composed and demoed in Tankian's home studio and fully realized after a successful Kickstarter campaign (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001dnOJ3DlBx0mesx85ZIam3D3wHb0PAoPj6yd_QP n5JR1xM6-LvVjNfcLjNL66IGxQD8EOUL50Yd1WNOUwVilu6SsAVUOnKwjXC _yWuZ0qIN_gf3OmSZt63zRhaPy7NHdRknseurnMTB_ij64MGKT oUdRcuZ34WoeSe4RNgB5GrdgYMv-Qs1SDQgc1up7Ez9kPA3xHYhLnjR83_MjW_XgFOcSyEZImfF2M) that helped fund a recording and debut performance at the regal Brucknerhaus with the "Das Karussell Ensemble". With conductor Werner Steinmetz at the helm, the four acts of Orca mix influences from early 20th century composers with modern film compositional dynamics showing influences ranging from Ennio Morricone to Philip Glass. Listeners are met with a mingling of sounds and intertwining pieces that are both serene and bombastic at the same time, offering a fresh interpretation to the classical art.

According to Tankian, "Orca is known as the killer whale, but is really a dark dolphin, a symbolism for human dichotomy."

Jazz-iz Christ is Serj's brainchild, but truly is a collaborative effort between many musicians that Tankian curated to be part of the group and self-titled album. Among others, there are considerable contributions from renowned pianist Tigran Hamasyan, flautist Valeri Tolstov, and trumpet player Tom Duprey. Additional performances from Stewart Copeland and actor/musician Davis Alpay and Vincent Pedulla make for a very unique collaboration. The 15 tracks that comprise Jazz-iz Christ, a mostly instrumental effort except for 4 tracks, are an amalgam of progressive jazz, electronic, ethnic and even rock elements, displaying a unique presentation of the genre itself.

Both albums will be available worldwide on iTunes, Amazon and other popular digital distributors and will be available for sale in various limited deluxe physical formats through Tankian's official website (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001dnOJ3DlBx0lRAyRYbU2HpoBZXouM5eqOod6qNu PQRyg7icYjR74T9ikL2isylZkL_Icu764gFjeHKwZgDefKNf5c vxjm2hd_z3HjEIc3dcM=) and the website for Serjical Strike Records (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001dnOJ3DlBx0ncrgBK0-fkQm8_eSflNrxOwFNIZUgm39C3kDHzOfCRWcEWZ8l6T_wStBx0 3CUzyCgpdFRDU8T4oFd5-w12cpn8hDarRu5nRvpXGA_WVAJleQ==). Pre-orders for the deluxe limited editions of Orca, which includes a 180 gram picture disc, merchandise, and a signed version of the actual score, will begin on May 1, while pre-orders for Jazz-iz Christ will commence on May 15. Audio samples from both releases are available for preview on Serj's official website (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001dnOJ3DlBx0nzGNODpXqyZQH-R4iI9UJIUHyZkzhxyRCjNgJ8WNUdAUAzGsrl5OtNE9AucRgC40 0DK2fFGC1SvgpIBZR6J0Sdg3JhKXw1c2oSY9_1iF1d-g==).

Upon completion of System of a Down's summer touring in August, Tankian will hang back in Europe until the commencement of his own solo orchestral tour dates that begin on September 19 in Kiev, Ukraine. The concert program will include all four acts of Orca, but will also incorporate performances of many songs from Elect The Dead Symphony, which achieved critical and commercial success upon it's initial release and tour in 2010.

Confirmed tour dates below, with more to be announced in the days to come:



19 Sep 13 Thu

Kiev

Ukraine

Ukraina Hall (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001dnOJ3DlBx0nE894iWdLCOatNu5bBIPA4WlT0I_ BEwZkTtoGRfEHMfUclH9iwFdDPEQrIMOWl5qSeRH05GE8Ht2YK aRv8TM2jRRslaHnhUeaSsivu16RfVTwDWGXQrZVo6BrmSmCjcz IuPiyCRfh0kQ==)



21 Sep 13 Sat

Yekaterinburg

Russia

Kosmos Hall (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001dnOJ3DlBx0lAOyrUVIZk9XzYTqQXVVQdlZhp1-Y9DJsJKAR7vQQ6_bpeRHQ7RJlUe3SsVBZgDOAABDo6eNEbhgY1 SRSqSZTi6NxrjPM_L2Ex5rJVpZ2ZS_58565x5jgZrkjyqeKFFV s=)



23 Sep 13 Mon

Novosibirsk

Russia

DK Zheleznodorozhnik (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001dnOJ3DlBx0kFOXr34g3B2_xodTO1IQTJJVHVMH TTStAHqyWvEClkaH8qJvzf7UmFnzng_vauBIDXB8GhDvYxgrSE KW8VQG30O007qLLCJFTJKeTXcxIKIMg7oC9ZGH25K9y3NjB6yR wTtShN6pKSXg==)



25 Sep 13 Wed

Krasnoyarsk

Russia

Philharmony (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001dnOJ3DlBx0lZEC3SqN7vqUxsG6L8mEMF_lX_kD E0A4M_6OjXNQT939JrnJ7dHfyZLQs2-myOAHLZjvdm3lCw7ISBVS9L1GWR2YIJP73xA4kdjQuRQ2p4WC0 BlYMc-hkP3Uspu57_vyU=)



27 Sep 13 Fri

Moscow

Russia

Crocus City Hall (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001dnOJ3DlBx0nDM6OJNGVb2FiaxMz5rbFizt5xxJ 55k4ktbPo--O06PH1SnABmQ_WhOIVJKgykSdvdugdHGIlrJhcWeTnNuxAChSx 2Hts982etA--0aotYtlG0XmHr-h5fP01NXWwBx5w5-uJbVgbLblG5stIr-ozvDwTBHGuCweA=)



28 Sep 13 Sat

St. Petersburg

Russia

Orjktybyrsky Concert Hall (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001dnOJ3DlBx0l0Qmywr2toCb_RiDxz2dYuR_5bev F5iLSETDuG_A6RH9VXDMFeHGAR8sos5JCVD1Xk0YP5e2b2xU4w 5MsoYfOald7QgRphp-VrvCY2-XyZXRK_bYkUYzQ9kQVYmN62y6I=)



03 Oct 13 Thu

Florence

Italy

Teatro Comunale



04 Oct 13 Fri

Padova

Italy

Gran Teatro Geox



05 Oct 13 Sat

Rome

Italy

Auditorium Parco Della Musica




I must say I am consistently disappointed with Tankian's solo stuff, though that Jazz-y album sounds like it could be fun.
By contrast I liked some of that Scars on Broadway album, thought it was somewhat underrated by critics and SOAD fans. That freak-out tour cancellation around the time of the album release can't have helped.

fillow
04-26-2013, 05:51 AM
God please no more Serj solo stuff. Elect the Dead was alright but he only went downhill from there.

wizfan
04-26-2013, 07:44 AM
Orca has already been out as a download since November. This is going to be a CD release.

blackholesun
04-26-2013, 08:52 PM
Hard to believe it's been 8 years since System has released an album. To put it in perspective: Boards of Canada released an album a month before Hypnotize came out. I feel old.

Conan The Barbarian
04-26-2013, 11:50 PM
I think they are just over it

Maurish
11-10-2016, 09:42 AM
Wow, so I though that they were done with albums but apparently in an interview with Kerrang!, John Dolmayan said that they are working on a new record. I'm surprised!

https://www.facebook.com/VictimsOfADownOfficial/photos/a.710587978966687.1073741828.710262265665925/1598782080147268/?type=3&theater

Sutekh
11-10-2016, 10:18 AM
i agree, i listen to system to hear serj's voice... not that pipsqueak. his backing vocals are actually not bad in some cases but when he tries to hijack the song its so annoying. stick to singing on your scars on broadway project.

He's an annoying guy and it comes across in his vocals. Bare minimum please

Interested to see if the new one will be any good.

What was the deal with Casey chaos? I don't really know much about it. Did they stitch him up or is he gold digging

ManBurning
01-31-2020, 03:04 PM
Huge announcement coming Monday involving Faith No More, KoRn and System of a down. Rumored North American tour. Holy smokes.
That's gonna be a HUGE tour. I'm not holding my breath for Canadain dates, since we've been getting the shaft on every tour this year, but if there's 1 and only 1 show that comes to town, god, I hope it's this!

ManBurning
02-03-2020, 12:45 AM
The announcement was a dud. Just another festival date in Mexico.

This thread can go back to being dormant again for 5 more years, since we know no *real* news is going to come from SOAD anytime soon, lol.

azad_ninja
02-03-2020, 08:59 AM
Hard to believe it's been 8 years since System has released an album. To put it in perspective: Boards of Canada released an album a month before Hypnotize came out. I feel old.

*Crying*

Up to 15 years now... How old do you feel now?

halo eighteen
02-03-2020, 10:19 AM
The announcement was a dud. Just another festival date in Mexico.

This thread can go back to being dormant again for 5 more years, since we know no *real* news is going to come from SOAD anytime soon, lol.

Looks like it's also May 22 (https://www1.ticketmaster.com/system-of-a-down-los-angeles-california-05-22-2020/event/0A00583CC6244FBE) at Banc of California Stadium in LA - SOAD, KoRn, Faith No More, Helmet, and Russian Circles.

Toadflax
02-03-2020, 12:14 PM
Looks like it's also May 22 (https://www1.ticketmaster.com/system-of-a-down-los-angeles-california-05-22-2020/event/0A00583CC6244FBE) at Banc of California Stadium in LA - SOAD, KoRn, Faith No More, Helmet, and Russian Circles.

I live in LA, and May 22nd is my birthday... and of course I'll be out of town for this, lol. Fortunately, System is the only of these bands I really care about, so it's not as much of a bummer for me as it could have been otherwise.

allegate
02-05-2020, 10:04 PM
just saw this on has it leaked (it hasn't):

John Dolmayan - These Grey Men

https://hasitleaked.com/2020/john-dolmayan-these-grey-men/

ickyvicky
02-07-2020, 12:47 PM
"John Dolmayan says SOAD is now even further from making new album" This sucks!!

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/john_dolmayan_says_soad_is_now_ever_further_from_m aking_new_album_explains_what_the_problem_is.html

tony.parente
02-07-2020, 12:54 PM
"John Dolmayan says SOAD is now even further from making new album" This sucks!!

https://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/john_dolmayan_says_soad_is_now_ever_further_from_m aking_new_album_explains_what_the_problem_is.html

After Tool released that abortion of a record that actually sucked any desire I had for a new SOAD record. I don't think the time off has done SOAD any favors.

allegate
02-07-2020, 12:54 PM
how can you get 'further' from making an album?

ManBurning
02-07-2020, 01:12 PM
After Tool released that abortion of a record that actually sucked any desire I had for a new SOAD record. I don't think the time off has done SOAD any favors.

Yeah, it's best to let sleeping dogs lay as this point. I don't see how any good would come from the band at this point.
There's always the age old question of "Get new music that sucks and destroys the bands legacy or just let them keep riding off the coat-tails of their classics and never get new music"
At this point, I'd rather just have them touring on their classic songs than taint their career with some medicore rubbish.

Very rarely does a 10+ year wait for music pay off. I personally think it paid off with Rammstein, but some people would argue with me. *shrugs*
Definitely did not pay off with TOOL, I am with ya 200% on that one.

tricil
02-07-2020, 01:15 PM
how can you get 'further' from making an album?

I guess you just feel less like doing it than you did yesterday.

ickyvicky
02-07-2020, 01:17 PM
It says they had 12 new songs done

allegate
02-07-2020, 01:18 PM
Yeah, it's best to let sleeping dogs lay as this point. I don't see how any good would come from the band at this point.
There's always the age old question of "Get new music that sucks and destroys the bands legacy or just let them keep riding off the coat-tails of their classics and never get new music"
At this point, I'd rather just have them touring on their classic songs than taint their career with some medicore rubbish.

Very rarely does a 10+ year wait for music pay off. I personally think it paid off with Rammstein, but some people would argue with me. *shrugs*
Definitely did not pay off with TOOL, I am with ya 200% on that one.Unlike tool, at least with SotD you have the solo stuff from Serj and Daron. Though depending on which album of theirs you want to look at that could be a good or bad thing.
I guess you just feel less like doing it than you did yesterday.
OK, I can respect that. I have a project I'm working on now that feels the same way.

ManBurning
02-07-2020, 01:27 PM
Unlike tool, at least with SotD you have the solo stuff from Serj and Daron. Though depending on which album of theirs you want to look at that could be a good or bad thing.


Yeah, just like Till and Richard from Rammstein, who had their own separate projects (Lindemann and Emigrate) in between as well.

Not sure I'd go as far as saying that Daron's stuff is worth it though, then again, Richard's "Emigrate" isn't anything to write home about either. Maybe it's a guitarist thing...
At least Serj's solo stuff isn't half bad. Saw him do his solo set in 2008 at a festival, and it was pretty good.

fillow
02-07-2020, 01:32 PM
OK, I get it when some people expected shit album from Tool based on how they didn't like Puscifer and/or Eat the Elephant. What the fuck does Tool album has to do with supposed new SOAD music?

SchwarzerAbt
05-15-2020, 03:38 AM
I was surprised to see how busy Serj Tankian has been recently as a score composer.

Is anyone here familiar with his work? Is it worth checking out? And if it is: where should I start?

Erneuert
05-15-2020, 05:12 AM
Yeah, just like Till and Richard from Rammstein, who had their own separate projects (Lindemann and Emigrate) in between as well.

Not sure I'd go as far as saying that Daron's stuff is worth it though, then again, Richard's "Emigrate" isn't anything to write home about either. Maybe it's a guitarist thing...
At least Serj's solo stuff isn't half bad. Saw him do his solo set in 2008 at a festival, and it was pretty good.

I really dig Richard’s Emigrate stuff. Y u no like?

Helpmeiaminhell (is now in hell)
05-15-2020, 12:21 PM
I actually prefer Serj's solo stuff over SOAD. Much more experimental plus he actually gets to showcase his singing voice and doesn't have Darons whiny nasally shit voice screeching over him on every single song. A new Serj solo album is much more important to me than another half assed SOAD album with Daron trying to be the lead singer.....Nice to hear Serj has a new EP of "rock songs" ready to be released in the near future

SchwarzerAbt
05-15-2020, 12:31 PM
Nice to hear Serj has a new EP of "rock songs" ready to be released in the near future

Yes, just came here to post this interview where he announces the EP which contains songs he originally intended to record with SOAD:
https://www.spin.com/2020/05/serj-tankian-interview/

He also talks about his collaboration with Jimmy Urine of MSI which came out last week. It's the soundtrack to a fictional Guy Ritchie gangster flick, called 'Fuktronic'.

neorev
05-16-2020, 01:25 PM
To be honest, I never quite clicked with Serj's solo stuff. Personally, just didn't have that SOAD edge to me.

Helpmeiaminhell (is now in hell)
05-19-2020, 11:23 AM
This needs to be reposted. The troll job SOAD (mostly Daron with an assist from Serj) did to "Mistress Juliya" on Fuse in 05


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IZ8hGprmE4

katara
05-19-2020, 01:28 PM
This needs to be reposted. The epic troll job SOAD (mostly Daron with an assist from Serj) did to this girl from Fuse..."Mistress Juliya".
That Daron guy is a total waste of space.

Helpmeiaminhell (is now in hell)
05-19-2020, 02:59 PM
I used to talk to Juliya a lot on fb....She was not a fan of those guys...Musically or personally

wight rabbit
05-19-2020, 03:29 PM
Ugh. I had to stop watching. That was terrible... Juliya was always super cool to people in interviews, to have her time wasted like that is unfortunate.

Archive_Reports
05-19-2020, 03:41 PM
Ugh. I had to stop watching. That was terrible... Juliya was always super cool to people in interviews, to have her time wasted like that is unfortunate.

That was some total edgelord bullshit.

Helpmeiaminhell (is now in hell)
06-02-2020, 04:23 PM
https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/06/system-of-a-downs-serj-tankian-to-president-trump-run-donny-run-into-your-bunker/

If anyone is wondering why the boys can't agree on new music. They dont even agree on politics...

Dryalex12
06-04-2020, 12:32 PM
haha, it gets even "better" :(

https://www.blabbermouth.net/news/system-of-a-downs-john-dolmayan-praises-donald-trump-calls-him-the-greatest-friend-to-minorities/

ickyvicky
06-04-2020, 12:49 PM
what the fuck

Helpmeiaminhell (is now in hell)
06-04-2020, 06:34 PM
Serj actually did 2 songs on Johns solo album earlier this year so they must be on good terms.....But this is wild....

neorev
06-04-2020, 07:05 PM
https://cdn130.picsart.com/264532794015211.png?type=webp&to=min&r=1280

allegate
06-04-2020, 08:02 PM
https://twitter.com/Zeddary/status/1268687008374960129

Dryalex12
11-05-2020, 11:28 PM
https://open.spotify.com/album/00OQIrRjQgZmacSnjK8L7M?si=ZLjTYYVXQ3i_Bqzz7ouIIQ

WE GOT NEW SONGS

Self.Destructive.Pattern
11-06-2020, 12:07 AM
WHATTTT. Cannot believe I'm banging to new SOAD right now. Thanks for sharing this!

Very SOAD, but Protect The Land hits man...

fillow
11-06-2020, 12:24 AM
Sad that it needed a new armed conflict in Armenia for the band to start making music again though

ManBurning
11-06-2020, 12:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqmknZNg1yw&feature=emb_logo

Maximilian
11-06-2020, 01:11 AM
I reverted back to the "me" from over 15 years ago and realized I still like this band a lot.

neorev
11-06-2020, 02:49 AM
Genocidal Humanoidz is awesome

dlb
11-06-2020, 04:37 AM
Waaaay better than I expected, nice! Yet I have to confess that I seem to have grown out of SOAD. Used to be a big fan back in the day, these days it's just too hectic for my taste. :/

ManBurning
11-06-2020, 07:30 AM
I listened to "Protect the Land" first and thought "eh, it's OK" and then I listened to "Genocidal Humanoidz" and thought "well, Protect the land was amazing"

So yeah, I like protect better between the two.
My girlfriend, who's fav band is SOAD, thinks that Genocidal was the better of the two. Guess there are 2 kinds of fans.

allegate
11-06-2020, 08:24 AM
https://systemofadown.bandcamp.com/album/protect-the-land-genocidal-humanoidz

This popped up in bandcamp while I was there and was like, no way this is actually them, right? but I come here and you confirm it.

ickyvicky
11-06-2020, 09:09 AM
It's like they didn't miss a beat~!

I like the second song better because I just need that upbeat heavy rockin' feeling right now.

wizfan
11-06-2020, 09:13 AM
It's like they didn't miss a beat~!

My thoughts exactly. They've aged like fine wine.

Self.Destructive.Pattern
11-06-2020, 11:16 AM
Guess there are 2 kinds of fans.

Exactly lol. I was simply banging to Geno and at the brink of tears for Protect.

BenAkenobi
11-06-2020, 11:49 AM
Couldn't believe i'd say it, but "Dictator" by Daron and Scars on Broadway does more for me than this single. Would have to give it more spins to grow and digest...

Helpmeiaminhell (is now in hell)
11-06-2020, 12:24 PM
Is Serj even on 'Protect The Land" lmao. Once again Daron takes over lead vocals with his horseshit whiny voice. Got one of the most versatile singers in the world in your band so why not push him to back up vocal duty so the guitar player can live out his rock n roll fantasy of being a lead singer.....Looking more forward to Serj's solo EP where I dont have to listen to Daron singing over Serj

Conan The Barbarian
11-06-2020, 03:52 PM
Is Serj even on 'Protect The Land" lmao. Once again Daron takes over lead vocals with his horseshit whiny voice. Got one of the most versatile singers in the world in your band so why not push him to back up vocal duty so the guitar player can live out his rock n roll fantasy of being a lead singer.....Looking more forward to Serj's solo EP where I dont have to listen to Daron singing over Serj

Yea, I’m not really feeling this EP

Dryalex12
11-06-2020, 08:18 PM
Is Serj even on 'Protect The Land" lmao. Once again Daron takes over lead vocals with his horseshit whiny voice. Got one of the most versatile singers in the world in your band so why not push him to back up vocal duty so the guitar player can live out his rock n roll fantasy of being a lead singer.....Looking more forward to Serj's solo EP where I dont have to listen to Daron singing over Serj

He is, just mixed a lot lower.

I personally dont have problem with Daron, his singing has gotten a lot better since when he started

Tyson
11-07-2020, 01:40 AM
Someone REALLY needs to tell Daron that the backup singer backs up the lead singer. Not the other way around. It's in the position name, for fuck's sake.

Dryalex12
11-07-2020, 02:41 AM
Someone REALLY needs to tell Daron that the backup singer backs up the lead singer. Not the other way around. It's in the position name, for fuck's sake.


man, screw that. Daron's voice is just as important to the band as Serj's voice is. Their contrast is what makes it work. There is also such a thing as a Co-lead vocalist, look at Alice In Chains. Besides, I'm pretty sure Serj has said he is less interested in singing than he was before.

neorev
11-07-2020, 10:32 AM
I honestly never liked Serj's solo work. I'll take Daron's voice back into the fold.

ickyvicky
11-07-2020, 04:51 PM
Can't deny the harmonies are on point. Other bands can't do that.

scorpiusdiamond
11-08-2020, 12:27 PM
I grew out of System in my late teens (about the same time I discovered NIN) but even now I can see the clear difference between this and B.Y.O.B. - their previous 'comeback' single.
That rips right out of the gate, this stuff just seems like SOAD by the numbers/lite.

It's also interesting to hear now how Daron's vocals just drown out Serj in the later albums...

Helpmeiaminhell (is now in hell)
11-08-2020, 01:01 PM
It's also interesting to hear now how Daron's vocals just drown out Serj in the later albums...

Thats all Daron. He's an egomaniac. He demands to be the sole writer of every song and get publishing etc. He clearly wants to be lead singer. I am shocked Serj went along with it and allowed Daron to pull such a power move. I think by 05 Serj didnt give a shit and was already plotting his solo career. Steal This Album demos are better than the album because 99% of Darons vocals are not even on that record. Its basically what that album woulda sounded like with just Serj

fillow
11-08-2020, 01:15 PM
Love Daron's vocals. Lover Mesmerize and Hypnotyze. Love the new tracks.

ManBurning
11-08-2020, 04:38 PM
Thats all Daron. He's an egomaniac. He demands to be the sole writer of every song and get publishing etc. He clearly wants to be lead singer. I am shocked Serj went along with it and allowed Daron to pull such a power move. I think by 05 Serj didnt give a shit and was already plotting his solo career. Steal This Album demos are better than the album because 99% of Darons vocals are not even on that record. Its basically what that album woulda sounded like with just Serj

I honestly cannot stand daron. He kind of ruins SOAD for me. In the early days when it was mainly Serj as the vocalist, it was better. But you're right, he's stolen the spotlight and trying to take over all the duties as his own, and he just comes off as very pompous and egotistical. I'm not surprised it's taken serj this long to want to work with him again. I'm shocked we got these songs at all TBH. Daron is flaunting all over social media that he wrote everything on the tracks anyway. It's basically the Daron hour at this point.

Self.Destructive.Pattern
11-08-2020, 07:39 PM
Serj and Daron work so well off of each other vocally; especially with the harmonies. But too much Daron is never a good thing for my ears.

Funny he flaunts about the writing because there is a decent amount of Scars on Broadway material that is utter garbage, including the last album; sounded like broken up SOAD songs with one of the worst album covers I've ever seen. The band now being named "Daron Malakian and Scars on Broadway" makes the criticism that much more fitting.

Space Suicide
11-08-2020, 09:28 PM
After listening to it several times I can safely safe it's in the average camp. It's not really that great of a comeback song one would hope for after 15 years.

The lyrics and all that for the actual meaning I'm not knocking but the song as a whole just doesn't for it for me.

rampface
11-09-2020, 12:05 AM
I love Daron's voice but I guess I prefer more Serj. When they sing together, it's perfect.

Archive_Reports
11-09-2020, 07:26 AM
https://media1.giphy.com/media/5xtDarzM2i7TNb4DSIo/giphy.gif

Haysey_Draws
11-09-2020, 10:33 AM
https://twitter.com/MetalHammer/status/1325836338495680515


... wait, what?!

allegate
11-09-2020, 10:52 AM
Which part? He came out a few months ago as a Trumper.

Jord
11-09-2020, 03:08 PM
If there was other stuff demoed up in 2016 without Serj on the level of Genodical Humanoidz then I'm bummed we'll not hear much of it. It's cool that there's new SOAD music but just a tantalising tease of what could be.

Haysey_Draws
11-09-2020, 04:33 PM
Which part? He came out a few months ago as a Trumper.

I didn't know that...just took me by surprise, being in that band and supporting the fired one.

Maximilian
11-11-2020, 02:41 AM
Thats all Daron. He's an egomaniac. He demands to be the sole writer of every song and get publishing etc. He clearly wants to be lead singer. I am shocked Serj went along with it and allowed Daron to pull such a power move. I think by 05 Serj didnt give a shit and was already plotting his solo career. Steal This Album demos are better than the album because 99% of Darons vocals are not even on that record. Its basically what that album woulda sounded like with just Serj

Wut? Does he demand to be the sole writer or is he the only one that writes worth a shit? Sure, I'd be down with Serj singing most of the songs on an album and Daron having maybe one or two, but c'mon. He's obviously the big dog.

Helpmeiaminhell (is now in hell)
11-11-2020, 12:02 PM
Serj wrote a huge Op-ed piece about it a few years ago. How the reason they will never put another album out was basically because the band is a dictatorship with Daron in charge and calling the shots and making most of the money. Serj writes plenty of stuff. It just never gets used.

scorpiusdiamond
11-11-2020, 01:32 PM
It's very clear when you listen to the albums which songs Daron wrote and which songs Serj wrote...

AndItKeepsRepeating
11-11-2020, 01:45 PM
Serj wrote a huge Op-ed piece about it a few years ago. How the reason they will never put another album out was basically because the band is a dictatorship with Daron in charge and calling the shots and making most of the money. Serj writes plenty of stuff. It just never gets used.


It's no coincidence the quality of the songs slowly started to decline as it slowly became less "System of a Down" and more "Daron of a Malakian"

It's likely they were never going to top the first self titled album, and though I like a bunch of songs on Toxicity, as a whole it hasn't aged well to me and it's clear how he was slowly starting to exert control of the songs starting then.

Steal this Album! is excellent I suspect it's probably because it's overall songs with more Serj influence than Daron and that's why they were left over from their recording sessions around the Toxicity era

Hypnotize/Mezmerize is almost wholly unlistenable to me and I don't think its coincidence that's it's peak Daron Malakian in control

These new songs are pretty much exactly what I always expected we'd get if/when we ever got new System of a Down - nothing interesting.

Also if you watch some of their performances the last decade its also clear Serj's voice has not aged well at all. He was always a bit more "frontman" than "singer" and the performance early on was always more based in energy than singing. Though he clearly had a voice, I'm not saying couldn't sing at all, it's just not realistic to expect anything coming from System of a Down now to be anything like the System of a Down we remember, regardless of Daron Malakian's control issues.

Self.Destructive.Pattern
11-11-2020, 04:22 PM
It's no coincidence the quality of the songs slowly started to decline as it slowly became less "System of a Down" and more "Daron of a Malakian"

It's likely they were never going to top the first self titled album, and though I like a bunch of songs on Toxicity, as a whole it hasn't aged well to me and it's clear how he was slowly starting to exert control of the songs starting then.

Steal this Album! is excellent I suspect it's probably because it's overall songs with more Serj influence than Daron and that's why they were left over from their recording sessions around the Toxicity era

Hypnotize/Mezmerize is almost wholly unlistenable to me and I don't think its coincidence that's it's peak Daron Malakian in control

These new songs are pretty much exactly what I always expected we'd get if/when we ever got new System of a Down - nothing interesting.

Also if you watch some of their performances the last decade its also clear Serj's voice has not aged well at all. He was always a bit more "frontman" than "singer" and the performance early on was always more based in energy than singing. Though he clearly had a voice, I'm not saying couldn't sing at all, it's just not realistic to expect anything coming from System of a Down now to be anything like the System of a Down we remember, regardless of Daron Malakian's control issues.

This is pretty much how I feel, well said. Some feel of the tracks from Steal! sometimes reflect the sound from S/T like "Johnny" imo, even though the band said the tracks were recorded in the same quality as Toxicity. I'll never forget seeing "Toxicity II" on Winmx back in the day and being utterly confused.

Steal This Album! Is Serj and Dolmayan's fave SOAD album and it makes sense I suppose. Their first three albums still work for me, but I'll admit a lot of Mezmerize I cannot stand now, but Hypnotize still has some solid tracks on it.

Poking around on wiki, they have Serj listed for all lyrics written (Except where noted) for the first three albums, with Daron being head of the music for every album. The lyrics for Mezmerize/Hypnotize, it lists Daron's name first next to Serj. Wish I had my cds handy to check the notes, this is interesting lol.

ickyvicky
11-11-2020, 05:31 PM
I'll never forget when Toxicity first came out, and the whole band was going to be in NYC at Tower Records to sign autographs. I skipped school that day (I was in high school at the time) and obviously didn't tell my parents. Then the next week September 11th happened - I promised myself to tell my parents if I ever skipped school again. Hah. :-P

Self.Destructive.Pattern
11-11-2020, 09:20 PM
https://youtu.be/DJ3guWqDbnY

All topics aside, it comes down to what is really going on not only in the USA, but current events around the world.

allegate
11-11-2020, 09:27 PM
If they need a new drummer they could always go with their og choice. His other band is defunct atm and he's also got a better choice anyway.

Archive_Reports
11-12-2020, 07:49 AM
If they need a new drummer they could always go with their og choice.

Or literally anyone else that can play drums. The only difference between this dude and David from Korn is that David quit instead of the band breaking up.

Helpmeiaminhell (is now in hell)
11-12-2020, 12:41 PM
Firing the drummer because he doesn't have the same political beliefs as you would be a pretty asshole thing to do. For a band that hates fascism, that would be a pretty fascist thing to do. Besides, Serj already wrote a big thing telling all the people calling for John's head to STFU and how they accept eachother despite having different political beliefs. Imagine that? Accepting someone even though they have differing political beliefs? Maybe everyone else in America (on both sides) should follow their lead

eversonpoe
11-12-2020, 12:48 PM
Firing the drummer because he doesn't have the same political beliefs as you would be a pretty asshole thing to do. For a band that hates fascism, that would be a pretty fascist thing to do. Besides, Serj already wrote a big thing telling all the people calling for John's head to STFU and how they accept eachother despite having different political beliefs. Imagine that? Accepting someone even though they have differing political beliefs? Maybe everyone else in America (on both sides) should follow their lead

there's a difference between saying "i like pineapple on pizza and you don't but we can still get along" and saying "i think women/queer people/trans people/people of color don't deserve the same rights as 'normal' people." the latter is what people are saying when they support trump and his administration. there's no "let's agree to disagree" on shit like that. if anyone in my family held those views, i would literally stop having any kind of relationship with them unless they were willing to listen to reason. politics has never been a non-moral issue. your vote denotes your morals, and it always has.

Hyperpower
11-12-2020, 01:09 PM
there's a difference between saying "i like pineapple on pizza and you don't but we can still get along" and saying "i think women/queer people/trans people/people of color don't deserve the same rights as 'normal' people." the latter is what people are saying when they support trump and his administration. there's no "let's agree to disagree" on shit like that. if anyone in my family held those views, i would literally stop having any kind of relationship with them unless they were willing to listen to reason. politics has never been a non-moral issue. your vote denotes your morals, and it always has.

this is a very important thing you said and yet, it gets overlooked time and time again.

thelastdisciple
11-12-2020, 01:16 PM
For a band that hates fascism, that would be a pretty fascist thing to do.
For a band that hates fascism, having a member in the band that supports a fascist dweeb like Trump is pretty god damn hypocritical IMO.

Swykk
11-12-2020, 01:42 PM
this is a very important thing you said and yet, it gets overlooked time and time again.

I can tell you it just got overlooked in another thread recently but luckily there are more of us here that understand this important distinction.

Dryalex12
11-12-2020, 01:49 PM
Also, for anyone wondering what Serj thinks, here's what he said back in June
https://www.instagram.com/p/CByqI3tBpXN/

allegate
01-25-2021, 02:18 PM
https://twitter.com/wearethepit/status/1353794774029971458?s=20

grime_z
01-27-2021, 01:15 AM
Or maybe just maybe the band have much more experience with things approaching real fascism than trump. Who by the way is not a fascist. He’s a piece of shit but he’s no more of a piece of shit than Biden who actively campaigned for segregation in 1975 and whilst using a language of progressive politics has immediately returned to Obama’s policies of war in the Middle East.


isn’t about time you lot realised that the main difference between the democrats and republicans politically is whether they do it with a smile on their faces?

richardp
01-30-2021, 12:44 PM
Isn't it time to get rid of Dolmayan yet?!?!? (https://consequenceofsound.net/2021/01/soad-john-dolmayan-blacklisted/)

Seriously at this point this asshole is doing nothing to add to SOAD's reputation, and is just dragging the rest of the dudes straight through the mud with this trash.

Dryalex12
01-30-2021, 07:11 PM
I love how he said he doesn't believe in communism but then calls BLM a bunch of communists. The right wing in a nutshell

allegate
11-14-2022, 02:11 PM
https://twitter.com/numetal_moment/status/1591568300127178752

lol

bobbie solo
01-05-2023, 04:12 AM
https://www.theprp.com/2023/01/03/news/john-dolmayan-laments-the-current-state-of-system-of-a-down-i-dont-think-this-is-sustainable/


At this point the long-running creative divide within System Of A Down has been well documented. The multi-platinum nü-metal/alternative metal favorites have long been at an impasse amid a rift that developed amongst Tankian and his bandmates. As Tankian himself spelled it out back in 2018 (https://www.theprp.com/2018/07/12/news/serj-tankian-outlines-his-reasons-why-system-of-a-down-have-yet-to-make-a-new-album/), he had grown unhappy with the lack of creative input and the financial revenue splits, along with his own desire to pursue other musical avenues.While the band did manage to issue two new tracks back in 2020 (https://www.theprp.com/2020/11/05/news/system-of-a-down-premiere-two-new-tracks-protect-the-land-genocidal-humanoidz/) to raise funds for the people of Artsakh, neither song was an entirely ‘new’ endeavor. “Protect The Land” had been repurposed from Scars On Broadway—the side project of guitarist/vocalist Daron Malakian. Likewise, the origins of “Genocidial Humanoidz” came about some 3-4 years prior amid some group jam sessions of which Tankian did not take part in.


As we approach it being two decades since the band’s last studio albums, Tankian himself has expressed his lack of interest in full-scale touring (https://www.theprp.com/2022/10/25/news/system-of-a-downs-serj-tankian-comments-on-his-current-health-issues-and-his-lack-of-interest-in-full-scale-touring/), due to both personal and health reasons.
In a new interview with the Battleline Podcast (http://www.battlelinepodcast.com/), System Of A Down drummer John Dolmayan spoke at length about the band’s complicated past and his desire to push the band forward, be it without Tankian or not.
Dolmayan stated:

“Serj hasn’t really wanted to be in the band for a long time. And quite frankly, we probably should have parted ways around 2006. We tried to get together multiple times to make an album, but there were certain rules set in place that made it difficult to do so and maintain the integrity of what System Of A Down stood for. So we couldn’t really come together and agree.
And part of that is Serj‘s fault, and part of that is my fault, and Shavo‘s [Odadjian, System Of a Down bassist] and Daron‘s as well. But at the end of the day, if you have a majority of the band thinking one way and one person thinking the other, it’s very difficult to come together and make music thinking that person is important.
And every member of this band is very important to the overall sound of the band. And you’ll know this by listening to anybody’s side projects; they’re never quite that good compared to System. In fact, I think a lot of ’em aren’t very good at all. And when you compare that to what we do together as System, you understand why the team matters and having certain talents come together and merge matter and that magic thing captured doing that matters.”He continued:

“No matter what, Daron is one of the best songwriters I’ve ever seen in my life. What he does with Scars will never be on the same level or league as System. That doesn’t mean Scars is bad; it just means it’s not System. ‘Cause at the end of the day, he doesn’t have me playing drums; he doesn’t have Shavo playing bass and bringing in certain riffs and adding to Daron‘s music, and he doesn’t have Serj bringing his melody and lyrics into the play. So it’s all those things that make us System.”When asked why he felt that the band should have parted ways in 2006, he explained:

“I think we should have moved on, and if Serj didn’t wanna be in the band at that time, we should have just moved on and done it with somebody else. But that’s what happens when you’re loyal and you really wanna make it work; you’ll put up with things that may be detrimental to the health of the band or the health of the situation.
Maybe it would have been better if we moved on and got another singer for an album or two and continued to make music and brought Serj back later if he wanted to come back. That probably would have been better. But as it is, I think we wasted 15, maybe 20 years of our lives waiting.”While the band are currently booked for next year’s first-ever ‘Sick New World‘ festival in Las Vegas, NV, Dolmayan feels that the group should be on the road more:

“I think we would like to be working a lot more, but Serj also has a bad back now; he’s messed up his back somehow. And he just doesn’t wanna tour as much as the rest of us do. Look, if my wife told me that we were gonna have sex once a year, I’d be divorced. So you figure that out for what it is.
I don’t think this is sustainable. The rest of us wanna work a lot more than he does. Now I don’t know if that means we’re just gonna break up and forget about it and call it a career or if we’re gonna move forward with somebody else or if Serj is gonna come around.
Ultimately, the best-case scenario for me is Serj comes around and we can do, like, 15, 20 shows a year. Even that would be enough. We’d be able to go to places that we haven’t gone in a long time and play in front of fans that have never seen us play. That’s important to me.”
“I don’t know what’s gonna happen. Even talking about System kind of bums me out, because I know what our potential is. And I know that if we make an album, it’ll be fantastic ’cause we have songs that have been ready for five [or] six years now; we just have to go in and record ’em. And I don’t know if that’s gonna happen or not.”

Jord
01-05-2023, 06:28 AM
A damn shame, but maybe it is time to call it. I can't see an album released with any other vocalist really being SOAD.

I don't doubt that they have some great music still in them (Genocidal Humanoidz kicked ass) that alchemy they share is still there - it's just that they can't get out of their own way to get a new album recorded & out there - that gift they have as a band really is squandered on disagreements and it's sad to see.

stankeybearlover
01-05-2023, 08:07 AM
It's been pretty clear since the Toxicity days that Serj and Daron don't see eye-to-eye on the creative structures within the band. Serj only did Toxicity because he was promised he could sing more than shout and scream. STA (consisting of Toxicity rejects; the bulk of which co-written by Serj) only got released because the demos leaked. And Serj withdrew most of his input from the Mezmerize/Hypnotize sessions for the same reasons they haven't been able to make an album since. Which happen to be the same reasons that the band had to beg Serj to participate in those sessions in the first place. That sounds like a dysfunctional relationship to me. And it seems they've made many efforts to mend it. I don't think any of them would've been happy continuing churning out albums together after Hypnotize.

If they were to permanently call it quits, they'd have had a good run. Haven't released even one bad album under the SOAD name. Out of all that they have released outside of System there might be one - maybe two - album's worth of good material.

It's somewhat heartbreaking that they couldn't do this Scars song together, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCkPFLM-w9o

gorast
01-08-2023, 10:08 AM
It's kind of remarkable that every single member of this band can constantly talk shit in public about the band and everyone in it and they still get together and perform live just fine. How are these guys not constantly punching each other in the face?

henryeatscereal
01-08-2023, 10:11 AM
It's kind of remarkable that every single member of this band can constantly talk shit in public about the band and everyone in it and they still get together and perform live just fine. How are these guys not constantly punching each other in the face?
I gue$$$$ they are civilized per$$$$ons in the end...

Zimbo
01-09-2023, 07:30 PM
Serj = the magic.

Dolmayan = The Trump fan.

Scars had its moments but Serj's first solo album was leagues better.

allegate
07-11-2023, 11:45 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Goua2VlAXjk

AndItKeepsRepeating
07-15-2023, 11:06 AM
I gue$$$$ they are civilized per$$$$ons in the end...

Money is guaranteed the main motivating factor, but I would also add that they've also known each other for decades, and have probably said it to each others faces previously.