View Full Version : Two more men with HIV now virus-free. Is this a cure?

07-27-2012, 04:33 AM
Let's hope this really leads to further developments in finding a cure

NBC News
Two men unlucky enough to get both HIV and cancer have been seemingly cleared of the virus, raising hope that science may yet find a way to cure for the infection that causes AIDS, 30 years into the epidemic.

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Leman Russ
07-27-2012, 09:08 AM
This certainly is promising. Hopefully it will lead to something able to cure everyone of this horrible disease.

07-27-2012, 09:24 AM
It's a huge step but it's not 100%, the Berlin patient still has traces in his system. Also bone marrow transplants are pretty bad for you, more than 2 would = serious brain damage. But then Chemo is not exactly elegant but is still used, maybe they could find a way of lowering the impact

but yes certainly some wonderful developments, Berlin guy in particular... imagine having HIV since 1985, then developing blood cancer... then being free of both!

07-27-2012, 09:42 PM
imagine having HIV since 1985, then developing blood cancer... then being free of both!
"Shit, I shouldn't have done that string of 'I got nothin' to lose' international art heists..."

07-28-2012, 09:29 AM
So, basically you'd have to get cancer and THEN get a bone marrow transplant? Shit, I think I'll hang onto my condoms then.

07-28-2012, 06:38 PM
You don't need cancer, just a bone marrow transplant. We have to be cautiously optimistic though because HIV is crafty, it can hide away in nerve tissue like the herpes simplex/cold sore virus does. Some people - known as select/elite controllers can keep it down for years. The question is, was he cured - or transformed into a elite controller? The donor had a mutation that stopped HIV cells from any further binding to host receptors - but ones that are already embedded may have survived

either way, it is still amazing news!